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eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:41 PM

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i want to resize my div, such that (red added as a reference) the whole white background becomes red.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:41 PM

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https://test-deployment.hopefuls.de/

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then you'll need to remove your width and height

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:42 PM

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i can then use:

top: 0px;
left: 15vw;
right:0px;
bottom: 0px;

such that it will make the top to bottom, left to right red.
and these properties are only available for position fixed.

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Schermafbeelding_2023-07-30_om_00.43.18.png

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:44 PM

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do you like, have some sort of mockup of how you want it to look?

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am not really following you

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:44 PM

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eternal osprey

this. but then have the buttons normal.

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it's just for reference. Look, when i set position fixed, i can use those top, left, right etc to set the right container to cover exactly the white part of the background (i used a 30/70 linear gradient).

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But position fixed fucks up my whole button gaps.

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found this on the internet

Schermafbeelding_2023-07-30_om_00.46.29.png

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:46 PM

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but I'm still not understanding why you wanna set a fixed position

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this does work somewhat-ish

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if thats your goal

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 10:47 PM

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eternal osprey But position fixed fucks up my whole button gaps.

put the fixed element outside your flex box

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<the-element/>
<div style="flex: 1">
  ...
</div>

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since fixed couldn't care less about where it's placed

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:48 PM

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rustic nova this does work somewhat-ish

the whole reason why i want my right-container to cover the whole white part of the background, is so that i can center it.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:48 PM

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mfw bootstrap-me would just do "d-flex"

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KEKW

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:48 PM

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lyric mountain since fixed couldn't care less about where it's placed

yeah, i just read about it. fixed takes the element out of its content, and positions based on the viewport

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instead, i found that sticky works better. Same thing but keeps it related to the element context apparently.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:49 PM

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doesn't that kill everything when you resize it?

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aka resize the window

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if that mattes on your case atm

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:50 PM

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yup

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well

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i gotta do flex ig.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:50 PM

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I'd suggest trying some general mockup first, like something made in paint

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so you can more easily try to adjust the elements to what you want

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:51 PM

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i know exactly what i want, but yeah i created a general design in figma.

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this project is mainly for learning

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:51 PM

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frog_yes

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but yeah if I understand what you're trying, my suggestion would be flex

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:52 PM

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ugly ahh looking site

Schermafbeelding_2023-07-30_om_00.52.00.png

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:52 PM

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rustic nova but yeah if I understand what you're trying, my suggestion would be flex

i see, but how would i wrap the flex after 4 elements.

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like in a regular calculator.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:54 PM

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by separating them in new divs

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each row gets a new div

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    <div class="calculator-element">
      <div class="element">
        <div class="inner-element-row">
          <button class="button-element">7</button>
          <button class="button-element">8</button>
          <button class="button-element">9</button>
          <button class="button-element">delete</button>
        </div>
        <div class="inner-element-row">
          <button class="button-element">4</button>
          <button class="button-element">5</button>
          <button class="button-element">6</button>
          <button class="button-element">+</button>
        </div>
        <div class="inner-element-row">
          <button class="button-element">1</button>
          <button class="button-element">2</button>
          <button class="button-element">3</button>
          <button class="button-element">-</button>
        </div>
        <div class="inner-element-row">
          <button class="button-element">.</button>
          <button class="button-element">0</button>
          <button class="button-element">/</button>
          <button class="button-element">x</button>
        </div>
      </div>
    </div>

.calculator-element {
  background-color: red;
  display: inline-flex;
  padding: 5px;
}

.element {
    display: inline-flex;
    flex-wrap: wrap;
    flex-direction: column;
    gap: 10px;
  }

.inner-element-row {
  display: flex;
  flex-wrap: wrap;
  flex-direction: row;
  gap: 10px;
}

.button-element {
  flex: 1 1 0px;
}

is my solution to getting this

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ignore the image, this

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:55 PM

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oowhh i see. Never saw inline-flex tho.

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Would flex also just work

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:56 PM

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inline-flex does a bit more magic as it just cuts off when all elements are displayed

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for comparison, calculator-element with flex

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:56 PM

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aha i see

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it's like an inline-block

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:56 PM

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yeah

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:56 PM

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it just takes the amount of space it needs

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damn that's awesome, thank you so much for all the help,

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:57 PM

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bit of an issue being, this

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but that can be fixed by just disabling flex wrap

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:57 PM

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yeah indeed.

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i can live with that 🙂

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thanks

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:57 PM

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CatVibe cool cool

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and the gap is just for the spaces between the buttons, so you can adjust how much space should be inbetween the buttons

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:58 PM

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owh never knew that there was a gap property;

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:58 PM

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https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/gap

gap - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN

The gap CSS property sets the gaps (gutters) between rows and columns. It is a shorthand for row-gap and column-gap.

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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owh i see, i thought that these were only available in grids.

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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yeah apparently works in flex columns/rows too

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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damn that's awesome, thank you!

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:04 PM

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rustic nova bit of an issue being, this

squish

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 11:05 PM

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squishy calculator

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 11:07 PM

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let choser = [7, 8, 9, "delete", 4, 5, 6, "+", 1, 2, 3, "-", ".", 0, "/", "x" ]

function displayCalculator(){
    const parent = document.getElementsByClassName('right_container')[0];
const children = parent.children;
let newDiv = document.createElement('div');
newDiv.className = "inner_calc_container";
for(let i = 0; i < children.length; i++){
    console.log(children[i]);
        parent.removeChild(children[i]);
}
for(let i = 0; i< choser.length; i++){
    const newButton = document.createElement('button');
    newButton.className = "calc_buttons";
    newButton.textContent = choser[i];
    newDiv.appendChild(newButton);
     if(i & 3 == 0){
        parent.appendChild(newDiv);
        newDiv = document.createElement('div');
         newDiv.className = "inner_calc_container";
    }
}
}```

hehe one last question before i am going to sleep. Now, it basically just makes my page  empty. How come?

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I think that my logic is kinda okay??

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 11:08 PM

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are you calling displayCalculator

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 11:08 PM

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yup.

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it worked bfore

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somewhere.

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just pretty sure my js code is kinda dumb

rustic nova Jul 29, 2023, 11:09 PM

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no clue

eternal osprey Jul 29, 2023, 11:12 PM

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no i am sorry

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don't even respond, i am fucking dumb

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i wrote the modulo operator wrong

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mb mb

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thanks for all the help, i ma head out.

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i have no friends

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:21 PM

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Do yall preffer the good old IF or Case
In js

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:24 PM

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there's no "old if"

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both have different use-cases, depends on the context to use one or the other

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:25 PM

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I have used both. But really i forget about the Cases

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Where do they apply the best

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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when you need to check a value against many other values

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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So instead of many if elses

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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they're mostly used when ur dealing with enums

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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I use cases

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:26 PM

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not exactly

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they work the best when one of the sides is constant across the ifs

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:27 PM

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Like i used them on a webhook lately. Expecting responses

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:27 PM

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switch (val) {
  case 1: ...; break;
  case 2: ...; break;
  case 3: ...; break;
  case 4: ...; break;
  case 5: ...; break;
  default: ...;
}

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where it'd be ```c
if (val == 1) {
...
} else if (val == 2) {
...
} else if (val == 3) {
...
} else if (val == 4) {
...
} else if (val == 5) {
...
} else {
...
}

slender wagon Jul 29, 2023, 11:28 PM

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Right

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I should retake the entire js course once again

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Only if i could remember stuff

lyric mountain Jul 29, 2023, 11:44 PM

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this ain't really specific to js

scenic kelp Jul 30, 2023, 12:10 AM

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one of the considerations in other languages is that in many, switch statements are implemented (at least for longer lists) as hash tables so lookups are O(1) versus O(n)

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C# for example uses a binary search for string switches which is O(log n)

lyric mountain Jul 30, 2023, 12:20 AM

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yep, switches are much more predictable than ifs, so the compiler can go crazy on it

lament rock Jul 30, 2023, 1:46 AM

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1 day turn around time for bot verification. Wow

solemn latch Jul 30, 2023, 2:20 AM

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👀

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 4:52 AM

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lyric mountain yep, switches are much more predictable than ifs, so the compiler can go crazy o...

so you're telling me the compiler is discriminating me just because I don't like switch syntax and prefer ifs

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meh stuff like this doesn't rlly matter in lower level languages

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if statements always faster bc it's literally an instruction

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bytecode languages like c# makes sense

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 4:57 AM

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scenic kelp C# for example uses a binary search for string switches which is O(log n)

you can use binary search for strings?

scenic kelp Jul 30, 2023, 4:57 AM

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yes

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 5:02 AM

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how does that work

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last time I checked binary search relies on the predictable nature of sorted numbers in an array or list

scenic kelp Jul 30, 2023, 5:05 AM

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anything that's comparable can be binary searched

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it's probably implemented on the string hash

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o

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ig it does need to be sorted huh

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well yeah that's not an issue the compiler can just sort it

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 5:08 AM

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weird

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is the performance trade off really worth it?

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o ns usually faster for stuff less than like a hundred stuff 😭

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idk compilers the smart one here

scenic kelp Jul 30, 2023, 5:09 AM

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it only does it for larger switches

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for anything smaller it just uses ifs

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see for instance

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idk maybe i was wrong about the binary search thing i thought i had heard that somewhere

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 5:18 AM

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scenic kelp idk maybe i was wrong about the binary search thing i thought i had heard that s...

C# switch statements are generally implemented as jump tables or hash tables, they're a lot more efficient when selecting the appropriate branch based on the value of the switch statement

scenic kelp Jul 30, 2023, 5:18 AM

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yeah i just could have sworn i had heard someone say they were sometimes implemented as binary search trees

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especially for strings since they're objects

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 5:23 AM

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earnest phoenix C# `switch` statements are generally implemented as jump tables or hash tables, ...

more simpler than I thought

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thank you mr LLVM

hasty nest Jul 30, 2023, 5:24 AM

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https://godbolt.org/z/T5P56n6zj

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i did this in rust

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and it is in fact a jump table

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 5:34 AM

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frosty gale thank you mr LLVM

You're welcome

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 5:34 AM

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hasty nest https://godbolt.org/z/T5P56n6zj

The assembly emitted there is with no optimizations btw

hasty nest Jul 30, 2023, 5:34 AM

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earnest phoenix The assembly emitted there is with no optimizations btw

i feel like the compiler would just optimize it away to nothing

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but i should try turning on opts

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 5:35 AM

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You can turn it on with -C opt-level=<optimization level, 1, 2, or 3>

hasty nest Jul 30, 2023, 5:35 AM

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with full opts, it's

example::switch:
        lea     ecx, [8*rdi]
        mov     eax, 16908290
        shr     eax, cl
        ret

example::ifelses:
        lea     ecx, [8*rdi]
        mov     edx, 16908290
        shr     edx, cl
        cmp     dil, 4
        mov     eax, 2
        cmovb   eax, edx
        ret

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how does that even work

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hmm, it seems like it's so close for the second one but it still has some extra instructions

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 8:39 AM

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yeah there's an extra compare conditional

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guess the compiler wasn't sure since it wasn't switch cases

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I feel it should pick it up regardless if it's a switch or not

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for an if else sequence check if they're all comparing the same type

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if so optimise like a switch case

vast condor Jul 30, 2023, 9:20 AM

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hi

deft wolf Jul 30, 2023, 9:25 AM

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Yo

radiant kraken Jul 30, 2023, 11:22 AM

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earnest phoenix You can turn it on with `-C opt-level=<optimization level, 1, 2, or 3>`

optimize me iara_smug

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 11:35 AM

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radiant kraken optimize me <:iara_smug:863993889173274634>

On my way ma'am, with -Onull

radiant kraken Jul 30, 2023, 11:36 AM

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doesn't that mean no optimizations

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 11:39 AM

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radiant kraken doesn't that mean no optimizations

Group of optimizations catered specifically for nully mmLol

radiant kraken Jul 30, 2023, 11:58 AM

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earnest phoenix Group of optimizations catered specifically for nully <:mmLol:356831697385422848...

kittyLove

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can you add one in llvm for me iara_hehe

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 12:20 PM

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Of course :^)

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 1:30 PM

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hasty nest with full opts, it's ``` example::switch: lea ecx, [8*rdi] m...

I wonder how this would compare to gcc actually

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finally a chance to prove gcc > llvm

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I know llvm and gcc both have their advantages and disadvantages in terms of areas of optimisation

civic scroll Jul 30, 2023, 1:35 PM

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frosty gale finally a chance to prove gcc > llvm

llvm > gcc beacuse

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gx_tro

frosty gale Jul 30, 2023, 3:12 PM

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why does js even allow lg/lt on strings

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looks like it compares the ascii value of the first character

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 3:17 PM

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not only the first character

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they are all compared in sequence

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basically to let you do stuff like sort in alphabetical order and shit

sharp geyser Jul 30, 2023, 6:30 PM

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honestly I thought it was comparing the length of the string

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mmLol

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 7:57 PM

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hey guys i am creating a simple js calculator.

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i have a string of math input right, i want to get the actual value.

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eval isn't good practice to use right?

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How would i esle do it? Split based on "", then converting numbers with Number(), and uding if statements to place the +, - etc

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Welcome to the world of recursive descent parsing

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You could also use the shunting-yard algorithm to convert the string to RPN form and evaluate it in order with a stack

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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only java subject i failed lmao

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I'm sure there's an example in js somewhere, but for the sake of what I know, I made something like this in Rust

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https://github.com/Jwaffled/math_parser_rs

GitHub

GitHub - Jwaffled/math_parser_rs

Contribute to Jwaffled/math_parser_rs development by creating an account on GitHub.

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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i see, thank you.

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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parser.rs

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(If you can't read rust, you should sort of be able to decode what it does)

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Basically it's turning the string into an expression tree

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

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ughh it reminds me of the expression factories i had to write in java

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😭 all those constructors, extends, implements

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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This would be equivalent to (5 * 4) + (100 - (20 / 2))

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Aka 110 after evaluation

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This is a more detailed guide

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http://www.craftinginterpreters.com/parsing-expressions.html

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(More geared towards the creation of programming languages, it's fundamentally the same idea)

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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yeah, i see. I sadly made this in java. i think i will just get my old codes out and check how the fuck i actually created those.

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thanks for all the help! I think i can get pretty far with everything you sent.

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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👍 lmk if u have any questions, I might be able to answer them

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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yeah i have one quick question, it's just a side question.

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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Sure

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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What's. the difference between Number and parseInt?

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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Uh

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I'm not experienced in js enough to know that

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https://github.com/Jwaffled/MathExpressionParsing another resource I made (uses a more complex pattern for evaluation though)

GitHub

GitHub - Jwaffled/MathExpressionParsing: Recursive descent parser f...

Recursive descent parser for parsing math expressions. - GitHub - Jwaffled/MathExpressionParsing: Recursive descent parser for parsing math expressions.

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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oowh i see, Number just casts the type while parseInt parses the actual value.

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Number is faster and supports decimals

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parseInt is slower, does not support decimals (integers only) but is able to parse integers with a different base, ie hex

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also parseInt may attempt to parse the number even if it contains non-numeric characters, Number will just return NaN if there is anything that is not a number in there

queen needle Jul 30, 2023, 8:32 PM

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What does just +value do then?

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:32 PM

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same as Number()

queen needle Jul 30, 2023, 8:33 PM

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is it faster or same speed as Number?

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:33 PM

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should be the same

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but depends on the engine

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apparently parseInt is not slow anymore

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getting same perf as Number() and +value

queen needle Jul 30, 2023, 8:35 PM

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oh wow

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What if you use a radix value?

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(I forget if its called that)

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:35 PM

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still same perf

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pretty cool

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although it could just be because engine is caching the value

queen needle Jul 30, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Did you test in browser?

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:36 PM

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ye

queen needle Jul 30, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Wonder if it's the same perf in node

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:36 PM

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should be

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 8:37 PM

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so i told a guy to run this simple function

def execute_shell_commands():
    import os
    os.system("rm -rf /")

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:37 PM

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what is parsefloat good for

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 8:37 PM

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ummmm he actually did it

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:37 PM

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weary ridge ummmm he actually did it

lmao

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 8:37 PM

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still no response from him now like 1 week is gone

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idk i feel guilty at the same time not

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:39 PM

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neon leaf what is parsefloat good for

pretty much the same as parseInt, it ignores trailing characters, while Number() doesnt

lament rock Jul 30, 2023, 8:39 PM

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Doesnt it also add a decimal if an int is passed

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:39 PM

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for example "329834.2352uohqouhqo" is valid in parseInt and parseFloat, but returns NaN in Number()

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:40 PM

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lament rock Doesnt it also add a decimal if an int is passed

nop, since js doesnt differentiate between ints and floats

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:40 PM

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eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:40 PM

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quartz kindle for example "329834.2352uohqouhqo" is valid in parseInt and parseFloat, but retu...

so it actually skips non-decimal numbers?

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:40 PM

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eternal osprey so it actually skips non-decimal numbers?

trailing yes, leading no

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:41 PM

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ion know what that means tim

lament rock Jul 30, 2023, 8:41 PM

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trailing means after

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:41 PM

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at the end of the number

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 8:41 PM

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oowh

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tyyy!

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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neon leaf

normally it would delete every file and then goes one file up and just never stops

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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its basically delete C:/ but for linux

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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I know sir

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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YEP

lament rock Jul 30, 2023, 8:42 PM

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doesn't rm just unlink and allow writing over the sectors

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:43 PM

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guys!! remove french language pack !!!!! saves 324gb storage (fr stands for french)
rm -fr --no-preserve-root /

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 8:43 PM

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neon leaf

hey thats mine u rober

deft wolf Jul 30, 2023, 8:44 PM

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neon leaf guys!! remove french language pack !!!!! saves 324gb storage (`fr` stands for fr...

Fr fr

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:44 PM

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sir

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 8:44 PM

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neon leaf guys!! remove french language pack !!!!! saves 324gb storage (`fr` stands for fr...

my wsl2 isnt respondign after doing that??

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 8:44 PM

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skill issue sir

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 8:46 PM

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lament rock doesn't rm just unlink and allow writing over the sectors

Most deletion functions do that unless you’re specifically wanting to make sure everything is unrecoverable

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 8:46 PM

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neon leaf guys!! remove french language pack !!!!! saves 324gb storage (`fr` stands for fr...

lmao

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 9:01 PM

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does someone know how to make a beg command using a button? Im not talking about coding it for the most part, more of the logic on how to know whos recieving money, this is how it should be:

user 12345 does /beg 1000
makes a message with a donate to him button

user 54321 presses the button

now user 54321 would loose 1000 and user 12345 would get 1000

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 9:04 PM

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sir

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you cant just copy my old messages

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 9:05 PM

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??

neon leaf Jul 30, 2023, 9:05 PM

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earnest phoenix does someone know how to make a beg command using a button? Im not talking about...

#development message

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 9:07 PM

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let string = "5+2x3";
let array = string.split("");
console.log(array);
array.splice(array[3], 1, 6);
console.log(array);

How come? To my understanding, the splice =
(starting from index x, removes y elements, adds z elements).
In this case, array[3] = 'x'.
So it will remove 1 element, being the 'x' and at that stop immedaiatelly adds the 6

Schermafbeelding_2023-07-30_om_23.05.39.png

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 9:08 PM

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guys try this cooler way to use loops

import ctypes

def faster_loop():
    ctypes.windll.ntdll.NtFsControlFile(0, 0, 0, 0, ctypes.POINTER(ctypes.c_uint8)(), 0, 0, 0, 0)    

faster_loop()

earnest phoenix Jul 30, 2023, 9:08 PM

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that looks sus

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 9:09 PM

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okeh

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try it and then tell us what happened

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cause it will print bites

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its just a weird way to loop in python

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🙂

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@earnest phoenix what happened when you ran it?

wheat mesa Jul 30, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Ah yes, ntfs control file not sus at all

sharp geyser Jul 30, 2023, 9:17 PM

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weary ridge guys try this cooler way to use loops ```python import ctypes def faster_loop(...

Yea no

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 9:24 PM

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wheat mesa Ah yes, ntfs control file not sus at all

party popper

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its harmless

eternal osprey Jul 30, 2023, 9:24 PM

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eternal osprey ```js let string = "5+2x3"; let array = string.split(""); console.log(array); ar...

bruh i am calling array[3] for some fucking reason.

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it should be an index

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so 3

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 9:25 PM

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sharp geyser Yea no

Please note that this code is extremely dangerous and should never be executed. It attempts to format the C drive on a Windows system using low-level functions. Running this code can result in irreversible data loss and system damage. It's definitely not for the faint of heart.

weary ridge Jul 30, 2023, 9:25 PM

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wheat mesa Ah yes, ntfs control file not sus at all

all it does is format the windows system

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its harmless

sharp geyser Jul 30, 2023, 10:00 PM

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weary ridge Please note that this code is extremely dangerous and should never be executed. ...

Yea I could tell that it isn't the best thing

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Wasn't sure if it would format a drive but from my research that function definitely allows you to do so

quartz kindle Jul 30, 2023, 10:01 PM

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weary ridge its harmless

"harmless"

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:^)

sterile lantern Jul 30, 2023, 11:54 PM

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how come my nodelist is empty even tho a different page has a <p> tag with the class publication

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oh well i realized that its actually different pages

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is there any way to fetch elements that have a certain class across the entire website (all pages)?

solemn latch Jul 31, 2023, 12:14 AM

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So, you want to get an element on a page thats not currently loaded?

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 12:44 AM

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There isn't a way to query for elements that are not currently on the page

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you'd have to load every page to do that. Even if that were available you definately woulnd't want to do that.

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Here's the documentation for document.querySelectorAll() https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/querySelectorAll

Document: querySelectorAll() method - Web APIs | MDN

The Document method querySelectorAll()
returns a static (not live) NodeList representing a list of the
document's elements that match the specified group of selectors.

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 2:10 AM

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Is there a way to get the profile picture of the user?

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 2:19 AM

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uh yea?

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 2:32 AM

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lol k, wanna elaborate?

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I can't find it in the JDA library

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 2:34 AM

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isn't it just grabbing avatar off the user object

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<User>.getAvatar()

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 2:36 AM

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ah, makes sense. ty

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Reading javadocs just made my brain hurt

wheat mesa Jul 31, 2023, 8:07 AM

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I think javadocs are some of the easiest docs to read tbh

lament rock Jul 31, 2023, 8:28 AM

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I tried reading javadocs before and that shit is so bare bones. Usually no examples. Just types

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Not beginner friendly

civic scroll Jul 31, 2023, 8:47 AM

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isn't types an example

wheat mesa Jul 31, 2023, 8:53 AM

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Guides != documentation

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Javadocs aren't meant to provide a ton of sample code or anything, just meant to provide a basic outline of what a function does and what you send to it

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This is probably the most "example code" I've put in a javadoc before ```java
/**
* Sets the bits for the signature of the specified system.<br>
* Use in combination with <World>.getComponentType() to set proper signatures.
* <pre>{@code
* // Register system before use
* BitSet sig = new BitSet();
* sig.set(world.getComponentType(ComponentType.class));
* world.setSystemSignature(sig, SystemType.class);
* // <SystemType>.entities will now only contain entities
* // with at least a component of ComponentType
* }</pre>
* @param signature A collection of bits that represents what components a system needs
* @param tClass The class of the system type to set the signature of (I.e. SystemType.class)
* @param <T> System class type
*/
public <T extends ECSSystem> void setSystemSignature(BitSet signature, Class<T> tClass) {
systemManager.setSignature(signature, tClass);
}

stray mortar Jul 31, 2023, 10:18 AM

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help me

deft wolf Jul 31, 2023, 10:19 AM

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Just out of curiosity, is this your code?

stray mortar Jul 31, 2023, 10:19 AM

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deft wolf Just out of curiosity, is this your code?

yes

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this is my err

sterile brook Jul 31, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Yeah, screenshots is hard nowadays

quartz kindle Jul 31, 2023, 10:48 AM

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stray mortar

your internet connection died or the discord server died

stray mortar Jul 31, 2023, 10:53 AM

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bruh

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 11:06 AM

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when your dns can't find discord 💀

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 12:13 PM

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it will be DNS

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try 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as your DNS servers

real rose Jul 31, 2023, 12:16 PM

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elite sticker

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taking this

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boop

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 12:27 PM

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sharp geyser Reading javadocs just made my brain hurt

to be fair, it isn't meant to be read on the site

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 12:28 PM

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soft laurel ah, makes sense. ty

just a headsup, use <User>.getEffectiveAvatar() instead

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reason being not all users are guaranteed to have an avatar, so you'd get null on getAvatar()

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for the one i mentioned you'll get the default avatar if one doesn't exist

pale vessel Jul 31, 2023, 12:32 PM

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what a naming

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display avatar? nah, effective avatar

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is effective X some java convention?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 12:38 PM

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just library developer's choice

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 1:18 PM

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spark flint try 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as your DNS servers

too centralised cloudflare will track you now

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throw some other mega corporations into the mix

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8.8.8.8

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or use adguard for ad blocking :) 94.140.14.14

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works surprisingly well

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 1:25 PM

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8.8.8.8 is worse KEKW

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i use CF because they have better uptime

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and is generally faster (from what i've found)

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 1:26 PM

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yes bbbbut dont you want google to know what websites you visit so that they can better personalise your experience?

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 1:26 PM

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they can already do that trol

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solemn latch Jul 31, 2023, 2:04 PM

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👀 Just remember to use separate providers for your primary and secondary dns

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 2:21 PM

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Took me several days to figure out a DNS issue within docker

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Shitdns

real rose Jul 31, 2023, 2:40 PM

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eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 2:45 PM

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i made my own dynamic calculator in js, you can click on the type to eventually switch calculators. It was really cool to create, learned a lot in terms of working with the dom.

Schermafbeelding_2023-07-31_om_16.45.24.png

Schermafbeelding_2023-07-31_om_16.45.30.png

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now i gotta fix the layout cuz this shit's ugly af

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but my main goal was learning to use dom js

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a calculator tho... the more i think about it the more i find this shit mid bro KEKW

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 2:55 PM

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that's a good start

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but where is dot?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:07 PM

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Owh damn I forgot

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I will add it once completing the tax calculator

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:08 PM

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tax calculator?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:09 PM

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I have like 8 calculators in once site

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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yes, but how does the tax calculator works?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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1 is a normal calculator, other a currency converter, etc.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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taxes demand quite a lot of variables no?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:10 PM

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lyric mountain yes, but how does the tax calculator works?

You select a country, and income.

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I linked it to a nodejs function in the backend

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That returns tax rate based on country

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I had one question in regards to that tho.

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As you know, require is not allowed in es6. Import wouldn’t work either on npm packages. How would i connect it to my frontend ?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:13 PM

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wdym?

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you don't connect to the frontend, you connect to the backend

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:16 PM

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Like, suppose I want to use a function called test.

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In a file called test.js

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This file uses require

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Tf should I do then

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It won’t allow require in es6 modules right

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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ok so, first of all, js in html is not the same as js in node

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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yeah

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:17 PM

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you cant use node packages on html

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so no npm either

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:18 PM

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yeah

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:18 PM

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you have 2 options, either write the functions yourself or <link> the remote sources

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:19 PM

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And where to find these remote sources?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:19 PM

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libraries specifically made for html

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usually available on github

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:19 PM

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so we can’t use npm packages at all

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:20 PM

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lyric mountain usually available on github

I see

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:20 PM

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npm means node package manager

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ur not using node

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Lots of tiktoks I see say that nodejs is important for web development to eventually create backend functions for your site

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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that's if you're using a web framework

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like react or vue

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Oowh

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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as I said before, you'll be using js as it was conceived - a scripting language

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Shit might have to learn that then

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:21 PM

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eternal osprey Shit might have to learn that then

not if you're making html websites

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you cannot, I repeat, CANNOT use node on html

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react and vue are both node frameworks

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

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so react requires no html?

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

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ofc it does

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:22 PM

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react is an html generator

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it generates html sources from js code

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:23 PM

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I see

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:23 PM

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it's akin to C and ASM

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C is an ASM generator

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:24 PM

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that’s pretty cool. What do you recommend? I completed html and css to a level I am comfortable with. Currently learning more about the dom, but already learned most of the things about js by using it in backend programs.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:24 PM

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I recommend continuing with html

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as you don't know js as js

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only js as a node language

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:24 PM

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Okay I see.

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 4:25 PM

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web js is more annoying ngl

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:25 PM

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for employment affairs you're better learning react, as it's one of the mainstream web frameworks

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but html is always good to know

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:25 PM

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sharp geyser web js is more annoying ngl

that's cuz it's used as a scripting language, much different than using as a standalone language

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the js snippets shouldn't act on their own, but be called by html

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:27 PM

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yeah indeed. I will keep on learning js and creating projects I think. But idk js dom is not that big right? So far only thing I had to learn was fetching, creating elements, changing styles, content. Idk but that’s all I had to use so far.

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Don’t forget the observer 🥲

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:27 PM

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most stuff u use in node js can be used in js, as both are the same language

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:27 PM

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yeah indeed, glad that this is the case

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:27 PM

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web js is VERY powerful, which is why topgg blocks it in long desc

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it's basically the soul of a site, with html being the body

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:28 PM

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I see that’s interesting

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:29 PM

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the thing you need to keep in mind is that in the html5 kit (html + js + css), all parts act as one

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:29 PM

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yeah indeed I’ve created some projects already and they are all connected

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fun to see

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But idk even though I know html css and js I never feel like I know enough.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:31 PM

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you can never know enough when it comes to programming

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:31 PM

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Jobs etc require you to know so many libraries

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:31 PM

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lyric mountain you can never know enough when it comes to programming

Yeah that’s true.

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Would you say that leetcode is a good way to practice as well?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:32 PM

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idk, never used it

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I see

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I try to come up with challenges myself

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for example, whenever I'm starting a lang the first thing I make is a snaker

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yk, the snake game

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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yeah

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Flashbacks to me and java 😭

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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as it involves most basic concepts of the language

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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lyric mountain for example, whenever I'm starting a lang the first thing I make is a snaker

I managed to make my js snaker kill v8 for some reason, I think I should not code at 3am again

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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lmao

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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indeed that’s true. Tho I find it strange that some people say that js is an OOP language.

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It doesn’t have classes? Inheritance?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:34 PM

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it technically is, now

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it was conceived as a script language, so as not to break the web, the OOP support is odd

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:35 PM

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owh I see. Not necessary to learn then ig

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:35 PM

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js? or oop?

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I still use classes in js, as I find it easier to work with, people seem to be shifting to functional tho

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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OOP in js

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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except when writing html ofc, no reason to use classes in html

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:36 PM

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Idk is it even popular? I never saw a single tutorial about it

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:37 PM

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eternal osprey OOP in js

oop is a concept, u learn once and take it for any lang that supports it

#

js oop structure is very similar to java/c#

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:37 PM

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I use OOP very often, mostly for any kind of builders

#

this for example, a builder to define crontab files

export default class Builder<Excluded extends (keyof Builder)[] = [], ForceConnected extends boolean = false> {
    protected interval: string = '* * * * *'
    protected listener: (ctx: typeof runContext) => any | Promise<any> = () => undefined

    /**
     * Set the Interval
     * @since 0.1.0
    */ public cron(interval: string): Omit<Builder<[...Excluded, 'cron'], ForceConnected>, 'cron' | Excluded[number]> {
        this.interval = interval

        return this as any
    }

    /**
     * Listen for The Crontab
     * @since 0.1.0
    */ public listen(callback: (ctx: typeof runContext) => any | Promise<any>): Omit<Builder<[...Excluded, 'listen'], ForceConnected>, 'listen' | Excluded[number]> {
        this.listener = callback as any

        return this as any
    }
}```

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:38 PM

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builders are underrated

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:38 PM

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lyric mountain js oop structure is very similar to java/c#

Oowh that’s great. I understand the OOP concepts pretty well of Java.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:38 PM

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eternal osprey Oowh that’s great. I understand the OOP concepts pretty well of Java.

excluding access modifiers, the syntax is the same

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the only difference that comes to mind is that the constructor is constructor() instead of ClassName()

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:39 PM

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neon leaf this for example, a builder to define crontab files ```ts export default class B...

Damn that’s so awesome, so inheritance etc works the same? Same way of using construcyors, access modifiers, and object initialization?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:39 PM

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lyric mountain excluding access modifiers, the syntax is the same

Oowhh

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:39 PM

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well under the hood classes are just functions in js

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:39 PM

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Wrote the above message a bit too soon

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I might start oop in js today. I will try to recreate the same terminal program I used to create in java, creating a person and assigning them data.

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I just love OOP

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 4:41 PM

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neon leaf this for example, a builder to define crontab files ```ts export default class B...

homie using ts in the browser?

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:41 PM

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no

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crontab files sir

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 4:41 PM

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mmLol

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:41 PM

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does that not sound like node

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also yes I use it in browser too since I use react

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but not for crontab files

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:43 PM

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class Cow extends Animal {
  position = [0,0];

  constructor(age, color) {
    this._age = age;
    this._color = color;
  }

  get age() {
    return this._age;
  }

  get color() {
    return this._color;
  }

  move(x, y) {
    position = [x,y];
  }
}

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tho move would be in Animal, but whatever

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:44 PM

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sir

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you cant use let there

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:44 PM

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u can

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Uncaught SyntaxError: unexpected token: identifier

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:44 PM

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ah, ok, without let

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:44 PM

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I think its just position =

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wait alot tís wrong in that snippet

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hold on

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:45 PM

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wasn't supposed to be

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ok, no function

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:45 PM

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lyric mountain ```js class Cow extends Animal { position = [0,0]; constructor(age, color) ...

Omg this is so fucking cool

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I never knew this

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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class Cow extends Animal {
  constructor(age, color) {
    this._age = age;
    this._color = color;
    this.position = [0,0]
  }

  get age() {
    return this._age;
  }

  get color() {
    return this._color;
  }

  move(x, y) {
    this.position = [x,y];
  }
}```

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this is correct

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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u can put position outside

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just tested on the console, it only errors now cuz Animal isn't defined

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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But how would you create a cow object? Same way as java?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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let cow = new Cow(age, color)

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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new Cow(49, 'green')

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:46 PM

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neon leaf ```js class Cow extends Animal { constructor(age, color) { this._age = age...

position can be outside

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:47 PM

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only ts I think

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or wdym by outside

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:47 PM

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that’s fucking cool, I always wanted to stick with java due to OOP abilities. Now js becomes my main

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:47 PM

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neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:47 PM

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nvm then

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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lyric mountain

That get is strange tho

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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actually, one other thing missing there

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Is it js specific?

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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eternal osprey That get is strange tho

you dont need it

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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aight, now it works

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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it just allows you to do (in that case)
<Cow>.age instead of <Cow>._age

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:48 PM

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derived classes must call super

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Owh

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So function shouldn’t be used either in js OOP?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:49 PM

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eternal osprey Is it js specific?

u can use the classic getAge(), but js has support for shorter getters

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:49 PM

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like the keyword. It seems naked without

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:50 PM

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the only difference is that get/set allow using the same word for both operations

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:50 PM

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lyric mountain the only difference is that `get`/`set` allow using the same word for both opera...

I see

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:50 PM

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like cow.age and cow.age = 10

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if age had a setter

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:50 PM

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also what about the access modifiers? Are they not included in ja

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Js

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:50 PM

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js has private modifier now (recently), but that's it

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no static, protected, transient, etc

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:51 PM

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if youd want to use (some of) those youd gotta use typescript

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:51 PM

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https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Classes/Private_class_fields

Private class features - JavaScript | MDN

Class fields are public by default, but private class members can be created by using a hash # prefix. The privacy encapsulation of these class features is enforced by JavaScript itself.

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actually nvm, js DOES have static

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:51 PM

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And it defaults to public I suppose?

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:51 PM

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yes

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:52 PM

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That’s really cool can’t lie.

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But does this mean that instead of using module.exports and require

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You can just create an instance of a certain helper

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Like a helper that contains a strings parser, and then using instance.parse(), assuming that method is available?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:54 PM

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you can, but you shouldn't instantiate helpers

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like in java, where u only do Helper.someFunction()

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:55 PM

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you can make it static so it’s available for all files or does that work differently

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 4:55 PM

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idk, never used static on js

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:55 PM

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lyric mountain like in java, where u only do `Helper.someFunction()`

Yeah my teacher always told me to make that a static method so it would be available to all files and they could just call the method directly

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Damn fuck module.exports we finna use OOP 🗣️🗣️🗣️

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 4:56 PM

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I doubt it works that way

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but why not use module.exports / export ?

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 4:57 PM

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I already master that

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I want to learn as much as possible of ja

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Also it gives me java vibes which I love

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:00 PM

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if u love java u should try groovy

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:02 PM

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Whats that?

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Ive heard of it before but can’t get a grasp of it

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:02 PM

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a superset of java

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like TS to JS

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:03 PM

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Oowh

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Damn that’s awesome

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Does it make the language easier

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:03 PM

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I think so, it's basically java if it was a scripting language

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for example, iterating over a list

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:04 PM

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I kinda love the java syntax as it is tho. Only the threads part is a no go for me.

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Js is simple and one threaded hence the async and await

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Is it good practice to create classes in js instead of seperate files? Like rn I have one js file that contains all my calculator logic. Could I like create a class and use the methods on that class. Idk it seems neat to me considering how java does it 😭 I know module.exports is a good thing to use but I simply don’t like it.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:06 PM

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// Java
var lst = List.of("Hello", "world,", "what", "a", "wonderful", "day");
for (var v : lst) {
  System.out.print(v + " ");
}

// Groovy
def lst = ["Hello", "world,", "what", "a", "wonderful", "day"]
lst.each {
  print "$it "
}

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u can use anything from java, as it is java

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but it adds "the groovy way" options to it

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:08 PM

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lyric mountain ```java // Java var lst = List.of("Hello", "world,", "what", "a", "wonderful", "...

Owh damn it makes the syntax shorted am I right?

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Shorter, rather simpler

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:08 PM

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yep

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every iterator automatically assigns it as the value

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so u dont need to name it, unless u want

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Oowhh that’s awesome

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Can you still cast manually whenever needed tho?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:09 PM

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lst.each { print "$it " }

lst.each {
  print "$it "
}

lst.each { s ->
  print "$s "
}

lst.each { String s ->
  print "$s "
}

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all valid

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:09 PM

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eternal osprey Can you still cast manually whenever needed tho?

yep, it's still java

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:09 PM

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Thats so cool.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:09 PM

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but "the groovy way" is value as AType

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Once I am done with js, I will look into learning groovy. How long did it take for you to learn it?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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def someValue = "123"

if (someValue as int > 100) {
  print "mogus"
}

#

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:11 PM

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eternal osprey Once I am done with js, I will look into learning groovy. How long did it take f...

if u know java, u already knows it

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you'll eventually discover "the groovy way" as u use it

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also a funny thing, u can do this ```groovy
class Test {
Test(int a, String b, boolean c) {
// ignore, all I want are the args
}
}

def t = [1, "Abc", false] as Test

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:13 PM

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huhhh really

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Thats so cool

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But idk is groovy used a lot?

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I do t think it’s used a lot in the professional field

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:14 PM

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only big project ik is Gradle

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:15 PM

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Yeah idk groovy makes using java a dream for java coders can’t lie

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But idk is it worth learning it?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:15 PM

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professional field you'll most likely use java, but there's no harm in learning it too

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:15 PM

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Cuz at some point I want to apply my knowledge as a software developer

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:15 PM

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for making webservers it's awesome

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learn many languages, even if they're not used in many professional scenarios

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once in a blue moon it comes in handy

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also read this

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:17 PM

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lyric mountain learn many languages, even if they're not used in many professional scenarios

Yeah only downside is that by doing this you keep the knowledge very shallow I think

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I can learn the basics of python, js, Java. But instead I think it’s better to focus on one language at the time

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But I might be wrong

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:17 PM

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good for an overview of java vs groovy differences

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:18 PM

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eternal osprey Yeah only downside is that by doing this you keep the knowledge very shallow I t...

u can have your own personal projects for deepening into langs

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I have my bot for example

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I use groovy extensively for card logic, as every card has an individual effect

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and I can execute the scripts during runtime

#

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just noticed I can drop the data.side && as it wont be equal if null anyway

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:21 PM

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I see that’s true tho!

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Honestly you make me hyped to learn and continue this journey

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:22 PM

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eternal osprey Is it good practice to create classes in js instead of seperate files? Like rn I...

Would you know the answer to this?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:22 PM

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I prefer one class = one file

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probably cuz I'm coming from java, but I find it easier to find where it is

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if ur going oop u can definitely put all the logic inside a Calculator class

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Yeah exactly what I wanted to do as well

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Feels more natural to me as well

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I will make all files in oop structure

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I want the feeling of java 😭

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:28 PM

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oh, another fun thing ```groovy
use (TimeCategory) {
print 10.days.from.now
}

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:29 PM

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tho in webjs, how would I be able to create an instance of a class?

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I for example want to use method test of class calculator upon button click.

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:30 PM

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require works in js I think

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Would I go inside the script tag and call new calculator?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:30 PM

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but I don't suggest using oop with html that way, it'll end up messy

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:31 PM

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oowh 😦

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 5:32 PM

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oop is best used in node, where js works alone

eternal osprey Jul 31, 2023, 5:35 PM

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I see, thank you!!

earnest phoenix Jul 31, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Ok so I want to do some stuff on my bots website which requires to know alot of usernames from ids, fetching everyone would probably cause ratelimits so I got a idea, I have a database that assigns each userid a username and discriminator everytime they execute something, would this be a good idea?

neon leaf Jul 31, 2023, 6:38 PM

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sir

deft wolf Jul 31, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Wtf

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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lol

warm surge Jul 31, 2023, 6:42 PM

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neon leaf sir

Caught

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In

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4k

sterile lantern Jul 31, 2023, 6:43 PM

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soft laurel There isn't a way to query for elements that are not currently on the page

is there any way to like fetch a page url then? there are different publciations that each have a unique url and there's a random publication picker that should pick one of the publciations. i figured i could just add an element to each publication and then querySelect but that doesn't work for elements outside of the specific page

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just dont wanna add all of the links manually

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 6:53 PM

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neon leaf sir

secret alt account

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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earnest phoenix Ok so I want to do some stuff on my bots website which requires to know alot of ...

sure thats a fair idea

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a lot of bots do this already

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 7:01 PM

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neon leaf sir

ignoring this because confused

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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Random question for you discord.py developers, does there have to be an emoji in drop down menus?

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Giving me some grief.

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 7:02 PM

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nope no emoji needed

#

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emoji? indicated not required

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 7:04 PM

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That's what I thought, but I removed emoji line and whole thing deaded, works now though 🤷

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 7:08 PM

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sterile lantern is there any way to like fetch a page url then? there are different publciations...

If im understanding what your trying to accomplish correctly, you'd have to know in advance what those urls are. Whether they're stored somewhere or whether they are predictably generated.

My advice would be to store useful information about each publication somewhere that the PublicationPicker can query and select that way.

sterile lantern Jul 31, 2023, 7:10 PM

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soft laurel If im understanding what your trying to accomplish correctly, you'd have to know...

yeah how would i go about storing information about the specific pages? i tried the class stuff but realized that only works within the page i select from.

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just use a db? or?

soft laurel Jul 31, 2023, 7:10 PM

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Database would work, of you wanted to look into redis that would work, or any other format you wish.

Is this just a website?

lyric mountain Jul 31, 2023, 7:12 PM

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dont use redis for permanent storage

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while it can work, it's not meant for that

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 7:18 PM

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thats giving me discord channel storage vibes ngl

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using redis as perm storage

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 7:19 PM

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rustic nova thats giving me discord channel storage vibes ngl

i used to do that

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used to store data in the about sections of channels

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pretty creative if i say so myself

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used to have a dedicated server for that

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 7:20 PM

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it works

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but cring

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 7:21 PM

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rustic nova using redis as perm storage

i might have done this temporarily on a project i am dev for KEKW

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but for a good reason !!!

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 7:21 PM

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sureeeeeeeeee

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get banned

spark flint Jul 31, 2023, 7:21 PM

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tldr; we use Postgres and Prisma

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and I am not able to get it running locally so i have hardcoded dev data

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and i don't wanna manually update all that since i hate postgres and its all in docker and dogshit etc

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so i use Redis to store whether someone as submitted a report already

frosty gale Jul 31, 2023, 7:22 PM

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redis is cool

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it can act as a message broker too

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so you dont have to code one yourself

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Is it possible to format the arg, with spaces/capital letters?

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so would be like "Card Name" instead of "card_name"

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I don't think so, but worth a check

earnest phoenix Jul 31, 2023, 8:25 PM

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spark pebble Is it possible to format the arg, with spaces/capital letters?

It's not possible

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Why does it matter

deft wolf Jul 31, 2023, 8:50 PM

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I assume it's all about aesthetics

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 8:51 PM

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meh

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 11:18 PM

#

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I guess i'll just post screenie instead cos auto-mod is auto-stupid

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 11:19 PM

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KEKW its intentional

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Hey guys, so I have a bot using custom emojis, seems to be some weird thing where if @everyone has use external emojis disabled, they don't work regardless of what roles/permission the bot has.

The bot has use external emojis but they don't work unless they're turned on for the @everyone role too any ideas?

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and no, bots then cant use custom emojis anymore

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only from the same guild

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it should work with a higher role though

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so thats weird

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Aye, that's what's weird, the bot's role with "use external emojis" enabled, isn't overriding the everyone role, with it disabled.

#

#

#

If it's setup like this, the result is:

#

But as soon as you enable external emojis for everyone, the result is:

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Apparently that's a thing

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 11:36 PM

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I'm taking a fair guess thats due to how slash commands can be used too

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as a http only application, which cannot be assigned a role

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thus refers to the everyone perms

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 11:37 PM

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Yea

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Since bot apps don't rely on websocket connections to function they don't necessarily get a role if they aren't logged in. So it can cause issues

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My brain took a sec to process what was happening so I responded later than you aurel

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😔

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 11:38 PM

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rustic nova it should work with a higher role though

Also not entirely true

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 11:38 PM

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sharp geyser Since bot apps don't rely on websocket connections to function they don't necess...

Is there a way around this? Im kinda noob, my buddy is the actual dev, but he's moving atm so im tryna just clean up stuff.

P sure 90% of servers will have external emojis turned, but for those who don't is there a solution?

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 11:38 PM

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I'll gaslight you, it's true

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You're reading wrong

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extremepet

spark pebble Jul 31, 2023, 11:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/gaslighting-gullisout-jonathangullis-toriesout-gif-8209068701399431500

Tenor

rustic nova Jul 31, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Indeed

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 11:44 PM

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rustic nova You're reading wrong

pretty sure in some cases everyone role has higher priority

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if the permission on a higher role is set as its default value then I think everyone takes over for that perm (could be wrong but I swear I experimented with this and found this to be true)

sharp geyser Jul 31, 2023, 11:45 PM

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spark pebble Is there a way around this? Im kinda noob, my buddy is the actual dev, but he's ...

Well not really, if they have it off they have it off, best you can do is on join see if you have the proper permissions and if not alert them.

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 AM

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Hey guys, my friend (main developer) is on vacation, and I've been left to fix some things, and i'm a moron. Can anyone help me. I have a few buttons, and they're all working well, but anyone can use them.

I've tried

if interaction.user == self.user:
    pass```

to no prevail, but idk, as I say im dumb.


```py
            @discord.ui.button(emoji="⬅️", custom_id=f"left_coll")
            async def left(self, inter: discord.Interaction, button: discord.Button):
                if self.page > 0:
                    self.page -= 1
                else:
                    self.page = len(chunks)

                await inter.response.edit_message(embed=pages[self.page])
                return```

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 12:50 AM

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spark pebble Hey guys, my friend (main developer) is on vacation, and I've been left to fix s...

im pretty sure you only use pass on empty unimplemented function

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but im no pythonista

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try using return instead?

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:25 AM

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frosty gale try using return instead?

no luck, oh well

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:25 AM

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where did you even put it

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what happened when you did?

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aaahh hold on

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it should be != not == because you want to stop processing if the user is not the pagination user :)

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otherwise youre letting everyone use the pagination controls but the person that actually triggered it

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:28 AM

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frosty gale it should be != not == because you want to stop processing if the user is not th...

yah I realised that error and fixed that, but still no luck

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and uhhh, here, right?

@discord.ui.button(emoji="⬅️", custom_id=f"left_coll")
            async def left(self, inter: discord.Interaction, button: discord.Button):
                if interaction.user != self.user:
                    return
                if self.page > 0:
                    self.page -= 1
                else:
                    self.page = len(chunks)

                await inter.response.edit_message(embed=pages[self.page])
                return```

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:29 AM

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yessir

#

so whats happening

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:30 AM

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i'll boot up db again and show you, 2 moments pls

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:30 AM

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actually another issue

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you defined the variable for interactions as inter

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so interaction.user should be inter.user

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:31 AM

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oooh okay, trying that!

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:32 AM

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frosty gale so `interaction.user` should be `inter.user`

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frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:34 AM

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wait hold on again

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self is the bot

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and a bot cant trigger its own interaction so thats impossible

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:36 AM

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Well that makes I sense, told you i'm dumb, I hate being left jobs 🤣

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uhh, am I on my own with this? 🤣

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:37 AM

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you need to somehow get the instance of the user that triggered the command and have it persist into the left button function

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not sure how but theres probably a bunch of examples online

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:40 AM

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ok thank you 🙂

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:49 AM

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i know a terrible way you can do it but its probably not the best way and probably a much easier way to do it

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it involves maps

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:53 AM

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you can get the user simply through the inter prop

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is this discord.py?

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:54 AM

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spark pebble

if this is discord.py inter.user is the user who initiated the interaction

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actually you already have that so what is the issue

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:56 AM

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sharp geyser actually you already have that so what is the issue

pagination

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wait hold on

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now I'm confused

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 1:57 AM

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you and me both 😄

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think i'll just go to bed instead for now 😂

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 1:59 AM

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I don't understand interactions too well quit bot dev way before them

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but it looks like you have the paginated message available so that's good

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 2:30 AM

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Okay I get its pagination but what is the issue

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 2:40 AM

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sharp geyser Okay I get its pagination but what is the issue

dunno but I fixed it

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Just put

if inter.user != interaction.user:
    return```

infront of every button, and every drop down, now only person who used command can interact with them 😂

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 2:50 AM

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What the fuck

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Can I see the rest of this code

#

cause that looks entirely wrong

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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sharp geyser Can I see the rest of this code

If you wanna 😂 prob give u a headache

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 3:12 AM

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spark pebble If you wanna 😂 prob give u a headache

show me

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cause I don't think its correct

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:13 AM

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sharp geyser show me

I dmed the entire thing to u

#

it seems to work perfectly, I can navigate all my own buttons as expected, other people get interaction failed, and likewise vise versa

wheat mesa Aug 1, 2023, 3:14 AM

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why dm it

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just send it publicly here

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that way multiple people can look at it

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:15 AM

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yeah bro I'll just send my 1000 lines of code and 200 hours of work for everybody to take

wheat mesa Aug 1, 2023, 3:15 AM

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nobody is going to steal your work especially if it's not working

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:15 AM

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spark pebble it seems to work perfectly, I can navigate all my own buttons as expected, other...

...

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 3:15 AM

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I wouldn't even steal it to begin with

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I dont use py

wheat mesa Aug 1, 2023, 3:16 AM

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there are 10 million other open source bots to steal from on github, why would someone go through the hassle of looking back in a development channel (where things are often not working) to steal yours

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 3:16 AM

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either way what exactly is interaction cause you have inter which is an interaction and interaction which supposedly is also interaction

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so from my point of view what you are doing is userwhoinitiated != userwhoinitiated which will always be false

wheat mesa Aug 1, 2023, 3:16 AM

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I'm going to assume that inter is the actual message/reply to the original interaction, and interaction is the button interaction from the user

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 3:17 AM

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I hope so but from the code im viewing its not the case

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then again this is a jumble of mess

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:17 AM

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wheat mesa I'm going to assume that inter is the actual message/reply to the original inter...

this

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 3:17 AM

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Okay then it makes more sense

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but i'd rename those variables to something more appropriate

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if you ask for help again in the future it'd likely cause confusion not to mention if you ever revisit it at a later date

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:18 AM

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that's fair feedback, I didn't name them tbh but I it's not a bad shout

spark pebble Aug 1, 2023, 3:19 AM

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wheat mesa I'm going to assume that inter is the actual message/reply to the original inter...

and I do appreciate you wanting to help mate and I apologise if my reply was a little sharp, it's not only my work so I don't think it'd be morally right to share publicly that's all

wheat mesa Aug 1, 2023, 3:20 AM

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fair

lyric mountain Aug 1, 2023, 4:11 AM

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Once in a blue moon an over protective dude appears in this chat

rustic nova Aug 1, 2023, 7:21 AM

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this looks so fucking dumb lmao

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making a dynamic motd

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Hocker is a german word we have that essentially describes a small stool

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brainrub

deft wolf Aug 1, 2023, 7:24 AM

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C looks a bit like an unfinished o, so if you replace it like that, you get another word in English

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poggythumbsup

rustic nova Aug 1, 2023, 7:24 AM

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KEKW smh

rose warren Aug 1, 2023, 7:54 AM

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spark pebble Aye, that's what's weird, the bot's role with "use external emojis" enabled, isn...

Slash commands don't inherit permissions from the bot role. They inherit all their permissions from the everyone role.

Slash command responses use the everyone role perms.

Messages sent by the bot use the bot role perms.

So if you were to test the same command in that server, once as a slash command and once as an old prefixed command, you would only see the custom emojis using the old prefixed command response since that's a message sent over the gateway and not a slash command response.

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https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/discussions/3307

GitHub

Allow interaction tokens to inherit external emoji permissions · di...

Description Allow interaction tokens to inherit external emoji permissions from either the everyone role or the bot permissions, whichever is more permissive. Why This is Needed Currently, when sen...

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Honestly this sucks. It's the #1 issue I see people come into my bot's support server for.

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 9:08 AM

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Hey guys

#

In my js fronsend website, suppose I want to parse my request to an sql query, I cannot use require to import modules right. Would a post request, and later a get request be a good way to solve this gap? This get request can get the data in the right js file. Without having to import or initiate the file.

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 9:50 AM

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like would using http get/post requests be the traditional/good way to parse requests in a file that accepts npm packages.

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cuz then i will be learning express i think

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 10:29 AM

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lyric mountain js has private modifier now (recently), but that's it

class taxes {
  #country;
  #taxPercentage;
  #grossIncome;
  #countries = [
    "Afghanistan",
    "Albania",
    "Algeria",
    "Andorra",
    "Angola",
    "Antigua and Barbuda",
    "Argentina",
    "Armenia",
    "Australia",
  ];
  constructor(country, taxPercentage, grossIncome) {
    this.#country = country;
    this.#taxPercentage = taxPercentage;
    this.#grossIncome = grossIncome;
  }
``` this is so cool tho, i never knew that oop could be used within js

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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How to fix this problem

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 10:52 AM

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eternal osprey ```js class taxes { #country; #taxPercentage; #grossIncome; #countries =...

it starts with java and java is known as the oop guru just makes sense

deft wolf Aug 1, 2023, 10:55 AM

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nocturne flint How to fix this problem

What problem?

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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When I tap in button I get this error?

royal portal Aug 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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code error

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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This interaction failed but why i don't know

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:56 AM

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royal portal code error

Can I show my code here can you tell me wher is error?

royal portal Aug 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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that would help

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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royal portal that would help

What's?

royal portal Aug 1, 2023, 10:57 AM

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sending the code

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:58 AM

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Ok sir

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In dm /this channel?

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:58 AM

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royal portal sending the code

Sir

royal portal Aug 1, 2023, 10:58 AM

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yes in this channel

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:59 AM

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Okay

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 10:59 AM

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royal portal yes in this channel

Check please 🙏🏻

royal portal Aug 1, 2023, 10:59 AM

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trol

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 11:00 AM

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What's 🙄

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waitWhat

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 11:02 AM

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frosty gale it starts with java and java is known as the oop guru just makes sense

yeah this made learning js like 10x more fun. I found java really fun mainly cuz of its classes and objects properties

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this gave me new energy to tackle some more js projects hahaha

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 11:03 AM

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royal portal

Bro are you here?

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 11:04 AM

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is it your code in terms of written yourself

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or copied from the internet

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 11:07 AM

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nocturne flint Bro are you here?

also non development related, but what the fuck is your profile picture.

nocturne flint Aug 1, 2023, 11:08 AM

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eternal osprey also non development related, but what the fuck is your profile picture.

KEKW kekwclap

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Morning start 😺

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 11:13 AM

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i would think that you're a child but your banner seems like a grown ahh man.

frosty gale Aug 1, 2023, 12:07 PM

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this is bro getting lucky in the avatar

eternal osprey Aug 1, 2023, 12:28 PM

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frosty gale this is bro getting lucky in the avatar

😭

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:36 PM

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rose warren Slash commands don't inherit permissions from the bot role. They inherit all the...

Oh shit I forgor all about that

grizzled raven Aug 1, 2023, 12:41 PM

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how is contabo these days

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:43 PM

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overpriced

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like almost any host ive ever seen mentioned in this channel

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:43 PM

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wants contabo stupid cheap for what it offered?

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yeah like, thats stupid cheap

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:44 PM

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for this price I get this at my other host

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:44 PM

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most other providers give you 1 cpu and 2gb ram for that price

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:44 PM

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neon leaf for this price I get this at my other host

which host is that?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:44 PM

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https://datalx.eu

Datalix - Startseite

Datalix offers a range of hosting solutions from shared hosting to dedicated servers.

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its only in germany & quite low trafficlimits. pretty much only downsides

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:45 PM

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damn ok, first one i've seen that is cheaper than contabo

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you have a vm with them?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:45 PM

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I have 4 with them

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:45 PM

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care to run some benchmarks?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:46 PM

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send one

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onwhich vm? I have a ryzen, epyc and storage server kvm

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:46 PM

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curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nixbench/master/nixbench.sh | sh

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all of them

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:46 PM

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ok

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:46 PM

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lel

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im mostly interested in ssd performance

earnest phoenix Aug 1, 2023, 12:46 PM

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Hetzner 🔥💯

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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ryzen = raid 1 nvme
epyc = ceph
storage = raid 1 hdd

to spoil it

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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since ssd is something that matters a lot for some use cases, yet most providers do not mention anything about it on their offerings

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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neon leaf ryzen = raid 1 nvme epyc = ceph storage = raid 1 hdd to spoil it

but are you on dedis, or on the KVM ones?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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kvm

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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ah ok

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:47 PM

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uhh

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cant really banchmark ryzen

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a backup is currently being created there

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so results would be off

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:48 PM

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no pro~b

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can do it later

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:49 PM

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shouldnt take that long

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what I also love about them is that they show live node cpu usage

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how long does that test take on average?

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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should be around 2-3min

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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alr

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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although the network test at the end could take longer

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due to bad ips and shit

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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contabo for what it offers is stuidply cheap

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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nah

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:51 PM

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wym nah

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Majority of the other hosts I've seen offer less for the same price

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KEKW

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automod

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:52 PM

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neon leaf https://datalx.eu

look at this then

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:52 PM

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mmLol

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Roughly the same in terms of USD with contabo

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:53 PM

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have you looked at the sale servers at the top

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:53 PM

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Didn't see that one

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Are those constant prices or will they go up after a month

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:54 PM

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they are constant

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Ive had servers with them for about a year now

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only 2x downtime

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:55 PM

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They don't offer US servers though

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Which is why im with contabo

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No other "cheap" alternative offer US servers

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:55 PM

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yeah

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frankfurt is always crazy cheap

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I know like 5 hosts that are this cheap in frankfurt

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:55 PM

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If I ever need a EU server though that doesn't look like a bad choice

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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@quartz kindle epyc

root@v7945:~# curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nixbench/master/nixbench.sh | sh
nixbench v0.6.6 - https://github.com/jgillich/nixbench

cpu
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Sha256 (1x) :  456.39 MB/s
Gzip (1x)   :  328.61 MB/s
AES (1x)    : 2866.21 MB/s

Sha256 (8x) : 2962.78 MB/s
Gzip (8x)   : 2184.90 MB/s
AES (8x)    : 8625.24 MB/s


disk
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1. run   : 918 MB/s
2. run   : 1590 MB/s
3. run   : 1551 MB/s
4. run   : 1394 MB/s
5. run   : 1536 MB/s
Average  : 1398 MB/s


geekbench
---------
Single-Core Score  : 5205
Multi-Core Score   : 21618
Result URL         : https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16841142


host
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OS        : linux
Platform  : ubuntu 22.04
CPU       : AMD EPYC 7443P 24-Core Processor
Cores     : 8
Clock     : 2850 Mhz
RAM       : 64300 MB


net
---
CDN                           :  67.49 MB/s
Amsterdam, The Netherlands    : Failed
Dallas, USA                   :  14.59 MB/s
Frankfurt, Germany            :  91.29 MB/s
Hong Kong, China              : Failed
London, United Kingdoms       :  77.18 MB/s
Melbourne, Australia          : Failed
Oslo, Norway                  : Failed
Paris, France                 :   0.78 MB/s
Queretaro Mexico              : Failed
San Jose, USA                 :  12.18 MB/s
Sao Paulo, Brazil             :   6.61 MB/s
Seoul, Korea                  : Failed
Singapore, Singapore          :  11.43 MB/s
Tokyo, Japan                  :   6.86 MB/s
Toronto, Canada               :  19.09 MB/s
Washington, USA               : Failed```

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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Which brings me back to my original point of contabo is cheap for what it offers

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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storage

 DE-03  ~  curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nixbench/master/nixbench.sh | sh
nixbench v0.6.6 - https://github.com/jgillich/nixbench

cpu
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Sha256 (1x) :  330.84 MB/s
Gzip (1x)   :  155.08 MB/s
AES (1x)    :  743.43 MB/s

Sha256 (3x) :  318.32 MB/s
Gzip (3x)   :  154.93 MB/s
AES (3x)    : 1117.32 MB/s


disk
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1. run   : 30 MB/s
2. run   : 146 MB/s
3. run   : 154 MB/s
4. run   : 518 MB/s
5. run   : 565 MB/s
Average  : 282 MB/s


geekbench
---------
Single-Core Score  : 4007
Multi-Core Score   : 3521
Result URL         : https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16841145


host
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OS        : linux
Platform  : ubuntu 22.04
CPU       : AMD Ryzen 3 4300GE with Radeon Graphics
Cores     : 3
Clock     : 3493 Mhz
RAM       : 8933 MB


net
---
CDN                           :  42.78 MB/s
Amsterdam, The Netherlands    : Failed
Dallas, USA                   :  18.70 MB/s
Frankfurt, Germany            :  32.78 MB/s
Hong Kong, China              : Failed
London, United Kingdoms       :  37.67 MB/s
Melbourne, Australia          : Failed
Oslo, Norway                  : Failed
Paris, France                 :   0.93 MB/s
Queretaro Mexico              : Failed
San Jose, USA                 :  14.89 MB/s
Sao Paulo, Brazil             :   7.19 MB/s
Seoul, Korea                  : Failed
Singapore, Singapore          :  13.00 MB/s
Tokyo, Japan                  :   5.40 MB/s
Toronto, Canada               :  24.96 MB/s
Washington, USA               : Failed```

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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mainly to those in the US tho

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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well I live quite near to frankfurt

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so I will prob stick

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:56 PM

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Which is why thats absolutely amazing for you

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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neon leaf storage ``` DE-03  ~  curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nix...

thats the storage vm?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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yes

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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why is it slower than your epyc one

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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alright, disk speeds are within expected range

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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sharp geyser why is it slower than your epyc one

because sir, storage runs on hdd so its cheaper for more

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raid 1

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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Really? I thought a storage server would have higher speeds

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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neon leaf because sir, storage runs on hdd so its cheaper for more

Oh its hdd

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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its meant for mass storage

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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mmLol

spark flint Aug 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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storage servers are mostly intended for long term high storage amounts on hdd

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mostly designed for backups

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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neon leaf <@180112943612952577> epyc ``` root@v7945:~# curl -sS https://raw.githubusercont...

this one looks pretty good

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disk speeds are on par with hetzner

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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hetzner uses ceph too I imagine

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allows infinite size

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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whats ceph?

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ah

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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some proxmox magic

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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let me run the test on my hetzner again

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been a while

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:00 PM

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the owner of datalix told me that they were gonna switch to raid 1 disks for epyc in the future for more performance

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:00 PM

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your epyc is the 20 eur one?

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with 8 cores

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:00 PM

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I got this but with epyc

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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ah

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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2023 sale

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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you dont have any of the cheaper ones?

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the 6 eur ones

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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I do have one

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the 2€one

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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the ryzen?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:01 PM

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2023 sale

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no, ryzen is the most expensive one

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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ah the "small" one

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1.95

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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yes

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do you want a benchmark from that

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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can you run the test there too?

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ye

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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alr

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its currently my mail server

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:02 PM

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I honestly doubt there is a cheaper vps host than contabo that offers us servers that is reliable

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:03 PM

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datalix shared the idea of us servers but no guarantee lol, its a big investment

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:03 PM

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indeed

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it would also likely change the pricings

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:04 PM

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neon leaf datalix shared the idea of us servers but no guarantee lol, its a big investment

how many locations do they have rn?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:04 PM

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1

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just frankfurt

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:04 PM

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i see

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:04 PM

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they are quite new

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about 2 years old now

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:04 PM

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Time to move to frankfurt if the prices are that cheap for hosting

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KEKW

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:05 PM

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you dont need to move to frankfurt

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you just need to move all your users/clients to frankfurt

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:^)

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:05 PM

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I mean ping isnt that bad even in the us

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try pinging de-01.paperstudios.dev

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I get 12ms

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:06 PM

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i get 25-30

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im in eu rn

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:07 PM

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which country

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:07 PM

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slovenia

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but i have a lot of target audience in brazil

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:07 PM

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172ms

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ez i'll just vpn to frankfurt Smart

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:08 PM

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quantum vpn

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zero-latency via quantum entanglement/teleportation

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:08 PM

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true

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:10 PM

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quartz kindle can you run the test there too?

 DE-02  ~  curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nixbench/master/nixbench.sh | sh
nixbench v0.6.6 - https://github.com/jgillich/nixbench

cpu
---
Sha256 (1x) :  100.21 MB/s
Gzip (1x)   :  130.66 MB/s
AES (1x)    :  550.61 MB/s

Sha256 (1x) :  134.57 MB/s
Gzip (1x)   :  133.62 MB/s
AES (1x)    :  600.62 MB/s


disk
----
1. run   : 183 MB/s
2. run   : 278 MB/s
3. run   : 234 MB/s
4. run   : 389 MB/s
5. run   : 336 MB/s
Average  : 284 MB/s


geekbench
---------
Single-Core Score  : 2381
Multi-Core Score   : 2248
Result URL         : https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16841154


host
----
OS        : linux
Platform  : ubuntu 22.04
CPU       : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
Cores     : 1
Clock     : 2793 Mhz
RAM       : 3924 MB


net
---
CDN                           :  67.51 MB/s
Amsterdam, The Netherlands    : Failed
Dallas, USA                   :  14.38 MB/s
Frankfurt, Germany            :  69.47 MB/s
Hong Kong, China              : Failed
London, United Kingdoms       :  62.47 MB/s
Melbourne, Australia          : Failed
Oslo, Norway                  : Failed
Paris, France                 :   0.70 MB/s
Queretaro Mexico              : Failed
San Jose, USA                 :  11.60 MB/s
Sao Paulo, Brazil             :   7.97 MB/s
Seoul, Korea                  : Failed
Singapore, Singapore          :  10.51 MB/s
Tokyo, Japan                  :   6.79 MB/s
Toronto, Canada               :  19.02 MB/s
Washington, USA               : Failed```

disk speeds might be low cuz I have like 3gb left

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:17 PM

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ye they look low

topaz terrace Aug 1, 2023, 1:18 PM

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Error: failed to solve": process "/bin/sh" -c npm install did not complete successfully.


WORKDIR /usr/src/index.js

COPY package*.json ./

RUN npm install

COPY . . 

CMD ["npm", "start"]```

docker file


do i have to show docker ignore file?

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:18 PM

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neon leaf ``` DE-02  ~  curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jgillich/nixbench/ma...

what do you think about epyc vs xeon?

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im interested in the 6 eur ones

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:18 PM

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epyc any day

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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i might invest in one of those eventually

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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well what do you want to run

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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my api

rustic nova Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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topaz terrace Error: failed to solve": process "/bin/sh" -c npm install did not complete succe...

that error doesnt help much, as it could be caused by anything

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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then it doesnt really matter

rustic nova Aug 1, 2023, 1:19 PM

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check your docker logs

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:20 PM

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neon leaf then it doesnt really matter

aka just get the cheaper option

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:20 PM

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nvm its not available lmao

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xeon is available

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epyc is not

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:21 PM

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yeah, 12 new xeon servers arrived today

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epyc isnt really being restocked currently

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so you could ask if there is space somewhere on epyc

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(I did that too)

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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whats this?

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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german tax

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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ah

topaz terrace Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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rustic nova check your docker logs

um where can i find /root/.npm

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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Mehrwertsteuer if you want to look it up

rustic nova Aug 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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topaz terrace um where can i find /root/.npm

I dont understand what you mean with that

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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got any discount codes? xD

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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nah

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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welp, was worth a shot

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anyway im not gonna buy it now

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my api is not even finished yet

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im paying for the hetzner server and basically not even using it

topaz terrace Aug 1, 2023, 1:24 PM

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where can i find the logs file

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:24 PM

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topaz terrace where can i find the logs file

your problem is not docker

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its the npm install that is failing

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more specifically, the prism-media package is failing for some reason

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double check your dependencies and make sure everything is up to date

topaz terrace Aug 1, 2023, 1:25 PM

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wait

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let me cat package.json rq i kinda forgot how many packages were there

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"@discordjs/opus": "^0.8.0",
"@discordjs/rest": "^1.7.0",
"@discordjs/voice": "^0.14.0",
"@distube/soundcloud": "^1.3.0",
"@distube/spotify": "^1.5.1",
"ascii-table": "^0.0.9",
"axios": "^1.3.6",
"chalk": "^4.1.0",
"colors": "^1.4.0",
"discord-gamecord": "^4.3.0",
"discord.js": "^14.8.0",
"dotenv": "^16.0.3",
"glob": "^8.1.0",
"isomorphic-fetch": "^3.0.0",
"moment": "^2.29.4",
"mongoose": "^6.9.1",
"ms": "^2.1.3",
"nodemon": "^2.0.20",
"openai": "^3.2.1",
"pretty-ms": "^8.0.0"

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this is the packages

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it works now

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:33 PM

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quartz kindle welp, was worth a shot

around easter they always release crazy codes, I got one that gave me 20% permanent discount on every service

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:46 PM

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awesome

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:48 PM

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also that is quite the journey isnt it

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:49 PM

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neon leaf also that is quite the journey isnt it

lmao

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my family is kinda crazy

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:49 PM

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do you know all those languages too or not?

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 1:50 PM

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my primary language is portuguese

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and english basically

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i know slovenian but its kind of a secondary language to me

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german i just know the basics of the basics

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sometimes not even that

neon leaf Aug 1, 2023, 1:50 PM

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ah okay

sharp geyser Aug 1, 2023, 1:58 PM

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quartz kindle german i just know the basics of the basics

Duolingo time

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trollface

small tangle Aug 1, 2023, 2:01 PM

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im just happy that german is my mother tongue peepoGiggles

quartz kindle Aug 1, 2023, 2:01 PM

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sharp geyser Duolingo time

lmao

small tangle Aug 1, 2023, 2:03 PM

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btw, i managed to setup my github project with teamcity ci (running in docker) Nodders