development

[civic scroll]

maybe you should not use an unnamed timeout call then

[hushed robin]

i need to know how i can make it not error

[quartz kindle]

.catch()

[hushed robin]

bro how many times do i need to say this

[civic scroll]

if you know why, you will know how

[hushed robin]

it's unrelated

[sullen crater]

i gave you the code for that already <3

[hushed robin]

to that

😐

[civic scroll]

then show me where it happened

[lyric mountain]

then fix the cause?

[hushed robin]

idk how

[civic scroll]

broski

[quartz kindle]

.catch()

or what cassie said

[proven lantern]

nest it in 10+ try/catch statements

[civic scroll]

send the damn stack trace

[hushed robin]

this doesn't work

i catch already

[quartz kindle]

then show code

[civic scroll]

JUST SEND THE STACK TRACE

[sullen crater]

you have to delete the error's message if it exists, for security

[wheat mesa]

@hushed robin start from the beginning. Explain your problem like a reasonable human would, and show what you’ve tried, provide your code, and show stacktraces

[hushed robin]

wait nvm i don't

[quartz kindle]

and show stack trace

[hushed robin]

let me see if that fixes

[quartz kindle]

noob

[hushed robin]

how can i

stop code entirely in catch

[civic scroll]

man...

that's where debugger comes in

[quartz kindle]

make it return a null value or something

[civic scroll]

i suppose you know how to use the debugger already, no?

[quartz kindle]

then check if the return value is null, return out of the function

[hushed robin]

but it will continue my code

[quartz kindle]

#development message

[hushed robin]

i already set value to null if user doesn't reply

[civic scroll]

insert a breakpoint at the error statement and run it in debug mode

[quartz kindle]

set it to something else then

[hushed robin]

brooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[proven lantern]

you mean undefined right?

[hushed robin]

why would i do all this

[civic scroll]

you asked how to stop your code temporarily at the error

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[hushed robin]

no

...

[sullen crater]

process.exit(8)

[civic scroll]

how tf else can you stop besides using a debugger

[hushed robin]

no

[civic scroll]

this mf

[hushed robin]

this will exit process

i need to keep process

bruh

[proven lantern]

const pause = (timeout) => new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(() => resolve(), timeout));

[spark flint]

hi cassie are you going insane from battleless yet

[civic scroll]

again, use the damn debugger, insert a breakpoint and run it in debug mode

[quartz kindle]

:^)

[wheat mesa]

Man I’m not even trying to help and I still want to walk into oncoming traffic reading this

[hushed robin]

no

[sullen crater]

he's kind of very based im a fan after seeing 'this way is cooler'

[hushed robin]

i will use tim's solution

and see if it works

[quartz kindle]

every single problem of his ends up being a very entertaining odissey

[spark flint]

trust me you'll go insane from him one day

[civic scroll]

if you don't know how to debug
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/nodejs/nodejs-debugging

[queen needle]

I love every time I come to this channel it's a fight with battleless

[civic scroll]

there, read it for once

[quartz kindle]

i was never able to get this to work, so i use node --inspect and debug it in the browser

[hushed robin]

😐

no one is fighting

[civic scroll]

i just run F5 from the file with entry point

[proven lantern]

debugging is always slower than logging. just add a bunch of logs

[civic scroll]

i still don't get why we are trying to help this individual

[quartz kindle]

true, thats what i do most of the time

[civic scroll]

nah i need stopping and stepping

used to rust / c++ way of deving, mb

[quartz kindle]

try stopping and stepping throuhg abunch of djs methods

they go 59 layers deep

[civic scroll]

insert another breakpoint and hit Continue

[quartz kindle]

:^)

[civic scroll]

there's also Step Over too i reckon

[quartz kindle]

ye, bug my problem was inside djs

so i had to go deep

xD

[civic scroll]

mfw the bug is of library's internal

[hushed robin]

ok i am testing your solution now tim

[wheat mesa]

Idk why some people are so against using the debugger. Use logging for simple issues, use the debugger if you need to see what is actually going on

[quartz kindle]

because my code was modifying the libs internals :^)

[civic scroll]

takes more effort, probably

[civic scroll]

you...

[hushed robin]

nope

i catch and error still occurs

[proven lantern]

nope, logging is always better

[wheat mesa]

Some people are “always use logging” and some are “always use debuggers”, just use both for appropriate situations

[hushed robin]

someone help

[quartz kindle]

show stack trace

show code

[civic scroll]

i asked that like a moment ago

even voltrex did

[quartz kindle]

a month ago

[civic scroll]

i'm going insane

[hushed robin]

i think it's because of this in my interactionCreate

[quartz kindle]

im already insane, so this shit doesnt affect me :^)

[wheat mesa]

Try logging in a game engine with 100k unique entity IDs that are getting manipulated in a shitty implementation of a quadtree and there is one entity being misplaced

[hushed robin]

how can i make my catch ignore that error

[quartz kindle]

replace all entities with entitties

[wheat mesa]

Valid

[proven lantern]

just log the diff ezpz

[civic scroll]

by not writing shitty code

seriously, don't do unpredictable timeout operation

[wheat mesa]

My situation was more complex than that, hard to explain

Debugger saved my life

[civic scroll]

if this man do rust the compiler would bust the shit outta him

[sullen crater]

if you use a finally block, it'll run after the catch OR the not-catch (technical term for the first try closure)

[wheat mesa]

Would’ve spent 10 hours logging 30 different variables instead of being able to step through the methods every frame to see the exact iteration that something went wrong

[hushed robin]

bro when r u going to shush about this

😐

[quartz kindle]

never heard of not-catch lmao

[civic scroll]

so you did acknowledge the flaw did exist with that code

[sullen crater]

[civic scroll]

[quartz kindle]

shes right tho

[hushed robin]

no

they are not

but this is not my issue so i am not discussing it further

[civic scroll]

deleting a channel with a pending request to operate on said channel is error-prone

[hushed robin]

please help with current issue

[civic scroll]

except it relates to that issue i mentioned?

[quartz kindle]

show stack trace

show code

[wheat mesa]

guys it’s okay when he does something wrong it’s because he’s a beginner but he also tells the experts that they’re wrong

[hushed robin]

ok

[proven lantern]

try{}catch(ex){console.log(ex.stack)}

[civic scroll]

exception

[quartz kindle]

console.log(new Error().stack)

[hushed robin]

Error [ChannelNotCached]: Could not find the channel where this message came from in the cache!
    at Message.edit (C:\Users\battleless\Desktop\andreya\node_modules\discord.js\src\structures\Message.js:723:46)
    at Object.run (C:\Users\battleless\Desktop\andreya\src\interactions\components\commission.js:82:53)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
    at async Object.run (C:\Users\battleless\Desktop\andreya\src\events\interactionCreate.js:31:17) {
  code: 'ChannelNotCached'
}

there

😐

[civic scroll]

two locations:
commission.js, line 82
interactionCreate.js, line 31

[quartz kindle]

i have a feeling he removed the lines that pointed to his code

[civic scroll]

send the block / function containing said lines

[hushed robin]

bro what

???

[civic scroll]

send the code

[hushed robin]

i just removed my full name from the stacktrace

[civic scroll]

the blocks containing this

go

[hushed robin]

ok

[proven lantern]

you need to fetch the channel instead of using the cache

[hushed robin]

that isn't the issue

[proven lantern]

oh

[hushed robin]

second one is my try catfh

and first one is

[civic scroll]

that was one i was thinking off too
unless the channel was already deleted by the time it gets to it'

[civic scroll]

just fucking send it

i don't know what the fuck your try catch is

[hushed robin]

yes this is the issue the channel gets deleted while it's awaiting messages

[hushed robin]

try running code

then catch error

[civic scroll]

rings a bell

[hushed robin]

???

[civic scroll]

just send the snippets containing said lines

i can't trust your words for it

[hushed robin]

...

ok

[civic scroll]

how the fuck are we supposed to help you if we don't know what the code is

[neon leaf]

if you want to ignore the error just add a try catch in the settimeout

[hushed robin]

GIVE ME A MINUTE

[civic scroll]

it could be prevented
bro just introduced a race condition

[proven lantern]

store all the timeoutIDs associated with the channel ids. then when you delete the channel also clear the timeout clearTimeout()

[neon leaf]

ah

[civic scroll]

the funny thing is, he didn't store

told em to, just didn't do it

[quartz kindle]

fun fact, he can also store the channel reference

[hushed robin]

bro now my bot even start

[quartz kindle]

yes your bot even start

[neon leaf]

[civic scroll]

referencing
#development message

[proven lantern]

that's the best way

[civic scroll]

would be funny if the snippets look familiar

[hushed robin]

if (assets === null) return questionMessage.edit({
    embeds: [{
        description: Text.TimedOut,
        color: Colors.Misc
    }]
});

this is line 82

[proven lantern]

dont use null

code smell

[civic scroll]

tfw you could have just if (!assets)

[hushed robin]

because

i have one that returns null

and one that returns undefined

[civic scroll]

what's in the other one

[hushed robin]

what

[civic scroll]

interactionCreate.js, line 31

[proven lantern]

only use undefined. dont make it more complicated than it needs to be

[hushed robin]

i told u already

[civic scroll]

you didn't tell me anything???

[hushed robin]

yes i did

[civic scroll]

point out then

[neon leaf]

why do you hate null so much

[hushed robin]

bruh

[civic scroll]

i use null over undefined

[wheat mesa]

undefined is objectively more annoying than null

[neon leaf]

real

[civic scroll]

WHERE IS IT

[hushed robin]

i think i find solution myself

[neon leaf]

thats why im asking

[civic scroll]

...

broski just wasted everyone's time

[hushed robin]

let me test my theory

[hushed robin]

well, this helped me realize my mistake

[civic scroll]

theory: remove the code that has to do with the channel the message originates from

[proven lantern]

typeof null vs typeof undefined

[civic scroll]

either you didn't fetch the channel, or you are possibly having a race condition

[neon leaf]

why would you ever do typeof with em?

[hushed robin]

neither

let me see if my solution works

[wheat mesa]

I can see the concern with that but if you rely on typeof somewhere like that then you probably need to reconsider your decisions

[civic scroll]

you didn't guarantee the lifetime of your channel object then

[proven lantern]

you dont even need to use null ever

[civic scroll]

ah yes null is stored in the heap thus hurting performance

[neon leaf]

undefined neither

[civic scroll]

then why it exist

[neon leaf]

you dont have to ever use it

[proven lantern]

javascript uses undefined in the language

it never uses null

[civic scroll]

null declares no value

[proven lantern]

x["asdf"]; // undefined, not null

[civic scroll]

while undefined means no reference

[neon leaf]

^

[proven lantern]

things can have meaning and not be useful

[neon leaf]

ever tried to use undefined in a json?

[proven lantern]

why would i send undefined?

[proven lantern]

the inventor of JSON agrees with me

[neon leaf]

to send an empty value, null is there to save the day

[hushed robin]

yup

[neon leaf]

and this ^

[hushed robin]

issue has been resolved myself

thanks guys

[proven lantern]

sending empty values is a mistake

only send values

[wheat mesa]

guys don’t fight ben on this, he’s far gone on the “code smell” pithole

[neon leaf]

I noticed

[civic scroll]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6604749/what-reason-is-there-to-use-null-instead-of-undefined-in-javascript#:~:text=Only use null if you,defined reference to "nothing".

[hushed robin]

lets goooooo

i appreciate the help guys, it made me realize the mistake

i just had to check if the messages channel existed before editing it

and now i no longer get the error

[civic scroll]

hope it doesn't break again because that would be very annoying for both of us

[hushed robin]

it won't

my 300 lines of code is perfect

[civic scroll]

don't swallow your sentence if it breaks

[neon leaf]

my 220 lines of route matching are barely working 🔥

[civic scroll]

also if (!assets) > if (assets === null)

[hushed robin]

skill issue

[hushed robin]

did you read what i said

[proven lantern]

https://youtu.be/PSGEjv3Tqo0?t=563

[civic scroll]

i told you

2014

[hushed robin]

it could return undefined or null

so i have to check for the specific one

[civic scroll]

why could it return undefined

[hushed robin]

because i made it

[civic scroll]

didn't you control that part yourself

[hushed robin]

yea

[neon leaf]

🤨

[proven lantern]

this is the guy that added JSON to javascript. he's talking about null/undefined

[hushed robin]

anyways, i no longer need that

[civic scroll]

then either make them all return null or return undefined

[hushed robin]

so i can just do !assets now

[civic scroll]

bruh

[hushed robin]

yea

i was testing to see if that fixed my code

but it didn't

[civic scroll]

...

shut cho ahh up

[hushed robin]

bruh

[neon leaf]

🗿

[civic scroll]

you said you wouldn't do what i said just to do what i said and confirmed it

[hushed robin]

yeah i couldn't do it because before it could return null or undefined

but now it doesn't so i can

[civic scroll]

mfw you don't even know what your code does

[hushed robin]

...

i do

i wrote it all

[civic scroll]

then why you don't know whether it returns null or undefined????

your statements are clashing with each other

[hushed robin]

because i made it return one of them if something specific happens

so i need to check after

[wheat mesa]

oh boy

[neon leaf]

!?

[wheat mesa]

That’s fucking awful

[civic scroll]

do they mean anything

[neon leaf]

why not just return a string

describing what heppened

[hushed robin]

why?

[civic scroll]

so what does it mean?

[neon leaf]

or even an enum

[civic scroll]

or just to mean "no assets"?

what does null stands for assets in this case that is different from that of undefined

[wheat mesa]

The data you return doesn’t even represent what happened?

[hushed robin]

null - received no response
undefined - error occured

[wheat mesa]

Jesus

Throw a fucking error then

[civic scroll]

mfw you could throw

[wheat mesa]

Don’t return undefined

[hushed robin]

whats throw?

[civic scroll]

WHAT

man

[wheat mesa]

This the same guy telling Tim that he’s wrong

[hushed robin]

yea I did

[civic scroll]

....

[hushed robin]

Tim is not an all knowing god

[civic scroll]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/throw

[hushed robin]

he can be wrong 😐

[wheat mesa]

Neither are you, but you pretend to be

[civic scroll]

and you need to have some javascript basics

[rustic nova]

WHY DO YOU QUESTION TIM

😡

disgusting

[hushed robin]

🫠

[hushed robin]

I know javascript

I've been doing it for a few months now

[civic scroll]

and you don't know throw

yeah

sounds probable

[wheat mesa]

Few months and doesn’t know about throw

[hushed robin]

yeah I've never had to use it before

[wheat mesa]

This is what discord bots does to people

[civic scroll]

https://javascript.info/try-catch

[hushed robin]

..

i know what a try catch is

[civic scroll]

https://javascript.info/promise-error-handling

[proven lantern]

why do you need to throw? are you making a library?

[hushed robin]

i've made more than bots

[civic scroll]

bro is severely lacking

[hushed robin]

ask them

they're telling me to throw

[civic scroll]

better than returning null for no value and undefined for error

[wheat mesa]

@proven lantern he made a function that returns null to represent no response, and undefined for an error response

[proven lantern]

never use null

[hushed robin]

i've made more than discord bots

[wheat mesa]

Really, that’s what you got out of that statement?

Come on

[proven lantern]

return an object with the key error. then check for an error that way

[wheat mesa]

Or… throw it…

[civic scroll]

it's not rust that you can just return an Err

it's either a value, or an error being thrown here

[hushed robin]

ok?

[civic scroll]

https://javascript.info/try-catch#throwing-our-own-errors

[hushed robin]

i use try catch in my code

[civic scroll]

did you even try to read

[hushed robin]

no.

[wheat mesa]

Read the article my man

Fucking hell

[hushed robin]

i know what a try catch is

bruh

[wheat mesa]

Dude

If you read the article you would realize that’s not what it’s about

[civic scroll]

they didn't do that

[quartz kindle]

why use undefined when you can just use void 0 :^)

[hushed robin]

it's very long

[neon leaf]

whats that ide?

[quartz kindle]

whats that idea?

[civic scroll]

i even marked the part to read for you

man

[proven lantern]

lets add that in

and goto

[quartz kindle]

its already in

[proven lantern]

intellij

[wheat mesa]

To me this is a terrible way to do things. Your data is not returned in a consistent format, I understand the reasoning behind just checking obj.error but then the user has to know what your return object looks like in both scenarios

[proven lantern]

oh it is a keyword

[wheat mesa]

When you could just return a consistent format or throw an error

[proven lantern]

that JSON guy got the goto keyword removed from JS

[wheat mesa]

I don’t see how that makes him a god

[proven lantern]

just history

[wheat mesa]

I think any reasonable person could suggest that using goto is a bad idea

[hushed robin]

why is goto bad

[civic scroll]

tbh for this part i like rust more than js
Result enum is very nice

[wheat mesa]

Difficult to follow code

[quartz kindle]

goto seriously messes up the code flow

[wheat mesa]

Jumps around all over the place

[wheat mesa]

Same

[hushed robin]

what is goto

[civic scroll]

you can do pattern matching with it

[hushed robin]

go to specific code?

[proven lantern]

and refactoring is impossible

[quartz kindle]

a thing that some languages have that js doesnt

[hushed robin]

what it do

[proven lantern]

goto line and run code

[wheat mesa]

I agree that null is not a great language construct in hindsight but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use it ever if it’s in the language

[neon leaf]

I tried using goto for a loop when I started with js 🥸
I literally never touched anything else than batch before

[hushed robin]

wow

[quartz kindle]

literally goes to a specific code

[hushed robin]

this would be useful

ngl

[civic scroll]

google it up
goto is "jump to this statement"

[hushed robin]

how do i use it?

[civic scroll]

sftu you are not doing raw assembly

[hushed robin]

goto [line]?

[neon leaf]

you dont

[quartz kindle]

it doesnt exist in js

[wheat mesa]

That is the antithesis of useful in modern languages

[hushed robin]

bru

[civic scroll]

no

[wheat mesa]

That’s what functions are for

[neon leaf]

^

[hushed robin]

with goto i could just go to thhe end of my code t o cancel it

[wheat mesa]

That’s what return is for

[harsh nova]

Or just use logic for that

[civic scroll]

that's what return is for

mfw bro failed control flow class

[harsh nova]

I think you'd enjoy the programming language Fortran. Might be hard making discord bots with it though

[wheat mesa]

Goto is absolutely fucking egregious

[hushed robin]

but if I return in a .then it will continue the code

[frosty gale]

goto is actually very helpful

[wheat mesa]

^^

[neon leaf]

use async/await then

[frosty gale]

lets you escape nested loops

[wheat mesa]

dear god

[quartz kindle]

use async await syntax then

[frosty gale]

without too much ugly code

[harsh nova]

Learn to handle promises correctly

[hushed robin]

what

[wheat mesa]

How did we get to the point of defending goto???

[hushed robin]

what

[wheat mesa]

Is this 1983?????

[neon leaf]

yes

[hushed robin]

i know how to handle promises

[civic scroll]

mfw break

[frosty gale]

but i get nervous using goto because i dont know how the compiler handles it stack-wise

might result in ub

[quartz kindle]

const bla = await something();
return

[harsh nova]

Then they shouldn't hinder the logic flow of your code

[civic scroll]

then you will know how to stop after .then

[hushed robin]

what

[quartz kindle]

what

[hushed robin]

i can't return

[neon leaf]

what

[proven lantern]

???

[civic scroll]

tbh i wouldn't trust their claim for

[quartz kindle]

what

[quartz kindle]

???

[hushed robin]

it's not

[neon leaf]

???

[quartz kindle]

?

[harsh nova]

(I didn't)

[hushed robin]

rude

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[harsh nova]

cat ran over my keyboard

[hushed robin]

good

thats karma

[civic scroll]

then what's the point of

but if I return in a .then it will continue the code

[quartz kindle]

i like your cat

[frosty gale]

@earnest phoenix you prob know a little about this
lets say you are in a loop and do goto both inside and outside of it, does the compiler know what to do stack-wise and keeps track of everything
or is there potential for undefined behaviour with it?

[harsh nova]

Me too she's nice

[hushed robin]

yea

[neon leaf]

@quartz kindle how bad is this code -10-0?
https://pastes.dev/YtV5P358uN

[quartz kindle]

if you use await, you dont need to use .then() at all, which in turn you will never need to return inside a .then

[civic scroll]

i would rather break than goto

[wheat mesa]

I know you’re asking out of curiosity but also just don’t use goto

[hushed robin]

but i want to return specific data

not it all

[frosty gale]

i do use goto actually

[quartz kindle]

you can easily do that with await

[wheat mesa]

Why

[civic scroll]

and if it needs to go again, i can use recursion and functions

[wheat mesa]

In what language

[civic scroll]

please be c / asm

[hushed robin]

where?

[wheat mesa]

I wouldn’t even think of it as acceptable in c

[frosty gale]

when im like 3 loops deep its inefficient to do variables outside of it to do stuff like if (broken) break;

c

[civic scroll]

think of why you get to 3 loops deep

[quartz kindle]

return a().then(x => x.something);

->

const a = await a();
return a.something;

[frosty gale]

js has labels so you can do stuff like break label so thats cool tho

[frosty gale]

x and y rows and columns maybe :)

[hushed robin]

that is what i do...

[civic scroll]

that's 2

[wheat mesa]

Enjoy changing your goto every time you write code above it

[frosty gale]

i was kinda using 3 as an example

never really had to use 3

[wheat mesa]

3 loops deep is not unreasonable

[quartz kindle]

then stop using .then

[hushed robin]

i need to

my code isn't a function

[neon leaf]

no

then make it one

[hushed robin]

i can't return like that

[quartz kindle]

i just showed you how to do it without .then

[hushed robin]

if i return

it will end my code...

[quartz kindle]

then dont return

[civic scroll]

mfw node 16+ supports top-level await

[hushed robin]

exactly

so i use .then

then return the data i want

[neon leaf]

only when using esm

[wheat mesa]

bruh

[quartz kindle]

you said you cant return inside .then

[hushed robin]

no i didn't

[neon leaf]

but 69% of people still use cjs

[quartz kindle]

so dont use .then and you can return all you want

[hushed robin]

no

[civic scroll]

if you want, use an IIAFE

immediately-invoked async function expression

[quartz kindle]

you literally said if you use return inside a .then your code will continue, and you didnt want that

[frosty gale]

waiting for c to support async/await just to fit in with the times

[hushed robin]

if i return outside of the .then it will end my code...

[wheat mesa]

POV: pathological liar

[hushed robin]

bro this is for a different situatiomn

stop calling me a pathological liar

[wheat mesa]

We can’t read your damn mind dude

[civic scroll]

(async () => {
    const data = await operation();
    // do stuff
})();

[hushed robin]

yes but as i said i don't want all the data

i just wantr specific data

[civic scroll]

HUH

[civic scroll]

then extract it yourself

[hushed robin]

in my case i only want message content

not anythingelse

[civic scroll]

value extraction is up to implementation and is not related to what we are talking about

[proven lantern]

const {thing} = allThings

[wheat mesa]

const { content } = await somethingThatReturnsAMessage();

[hushed robin]

...

[civic scroll]

reminds me of the "CEO of javascript" guy

[civic scroll]

what the fuck else do you want?

you wanted the specific stuff from return value

[hushed robin]

then without .then i would need to use another unnecessary variable

[civic scroll]

????

[wheat mesa]

Man just show us what you’re talking about

We can’t keep fucking guessing to read your mind when you can’t explain anything

[civic scroll]

the whole point of not returning in .then is by using await

and if you are not using it, when why even assign?

just ```js
await operation();

[hushed robin]

const description = await channel.awaitMessages({ filter: m =>  m.author.id === interaction.user.id, max: 1, time: 300000 })
    .then(async message => {
        await message.first()?.delete();

        return {
            content: message.first()?.content || null,
            files: message.first()?.attachments.map(attachment => attachment.url) || null
        };
    });

for example, i only want content and files

[wheat mesa]

wtf are you doing dude

[hushed robin]

...

😐

[wheat mesa]

.then AND await??

[hushed robin]

yea

[civic scroll]

const message = await channel.awaitMessages({ filter: { author: { id: authorId }} =>  authorId  === interaction.user.id, max: 1, time: 300000 });
let firstMessage = message.first();
await firstMessage?.delete();
return {
    content: firstMessage?.content || null,
    files: firstMessage?.attachments.map({ url } => url) || null
};

[wheat mesa]

Also I don’t see why you even need || null on either of these here

If there’s no files then you shouldn’t return null, you should return an empty array

[hushed robin]

if i return it won't run the rest of my code...

[civic scroll]

...

const description = {
    content: firstMessage?.content || null,
    files: firstMessage?.attachments.map({ url } => url) || null
};

[wheat mesa]

I wanna see battleless try to use a statically typed language

That would be fun

[hushed robin]

see

now i need an extra variable

😐

[lyric mountain]

he kinda tried ts

[civic scroll]

extra what

[wheat mesa]

Eh that’s not really statically typed, it’s pretty easy to get around the ts compiler

[hushed robin]

firstMessage and description

[civic scroll]

that's better than calling <MessageCollector>.first three times

[hushed robin]

ok and

[civic scroll]

best way to counter any reasonable argument: "ok and"

[hushed robin]

yea

because it doesn't affect my code

it runs fine

[civic scroll]

then what the hell is your problem

[hushed robin]

my issue has been resolved for a long time now

[civic scroll]

you just posted it and later on you told that "your problem" runs fine?

[hushed robin]

posted what?

[civic scroll]

1. it's ugly to have nested promise callback in an async function
2. more or not, variables are stack-based; they are dropped the moment the function exits, unless you are returning its references, then it's a game of passing references around; but even then those variables' won't live beyond said function's lifetimes

[hushed robin]

ok

more variables = harder to manage though

and i fixed 1. already

[civic scroll]

manage what

[hushed robin]

ok

[civic scroll]

i don't see what's harder to manage in readable code

[hushed robin]

pretend u have 1 employee vs having 10 employees

1 will be easier to manage then 10

[civic scroll]

here's a thing, the async you did call inside another independent closure

[hushed robin]

brooooooooo i fixed that

[civic scroll]

and meanwhile my example all runs under the same closure, same function body, without nesting callbacks

=> easier to debug

[wheat mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[lyric mountain]

no matter how much u try, e0c will never listen

[hushed robin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833384695403118648/1099658112258015315/my-beloved-discordjs.gif

[hushed robin]

stop calling me e0c

i'm battleless

also i listen all the time

[civic scroll]

const message = (await channel.awaitMessages({ filter: { author: { id: authorId }} =>  authorId  === interaction.user.id, max: 1, time: 300000 })).first();
await message?.delete();
const description = {
    content: message?.content || null,
    files: message?.attachments.map({ url } => url) || null
};
// `message` usage stopped beyond this line

[lyric mountain]

ok e0c

[hushed robin]

2 variables

vs 1 variable

[civic scroll]

better than two nested await callbacks

[hushed robin]

and my code works perfectly fine

so i don't see the issue

[hushed robin]

i will report you

[civic scroll]

vs. harder to debug stack trace

[hushed robin]

goodbye guys

[lyric mountain]

nooo dont do it e0c

[hushed robin]

if i encounter another issue i will return

thanks for the help

[civic scroll]

now bro just escape the argument

coward ahh move

[hushed robin]

yea

because i don't wanna argue with you

[civic scroll]

because you can't

[hushed robin]

bye

[civic scroll]

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[civic scroll]

holy fucking hell

[proven lantern]

where are you going? make sure to check out the alpha status frequently

[earnest phoenix]

The compilers will keep track of the stack correctly unless you manually manipulate the stack yourself which you should almost always avoid

About undefined behavior (UB), goto statements can't really cause them, the code in the labels that the executor jumps to are the ones that might cause UB but that highly varies and not guaranteed to cause UB as they're... well, undefined

Though avoid using goto statements as much as possible, use general control flow statements

[earnest phoenix]

Actually that's a pretty valid usage and very widely used, it allows for a specific value to be resolved instead of the user needing to assign the main resolved value, and then use the value that they actually need

For example:

const data = await fetch(...)
  .then((res) => res.json());

instead of just assigning the Response instance to the data variable (which in this example we don't need), we can use .then() to only return the JSON value consumed from the body of the said response

But Battleless really made a circus out of here ngl

[rustic nova]

normal development behaviour

like I said, nobody here is forcing you to help others here

[rustic nova]

actually not normal

[patent onyx]

Hello, I am new to bot development and I am developing a discord.py bot

I have noticed that a lot of bots have "Invite bot to your server" on their profile and was wondering how I could add that to my discord bot

[earnest phoenix]

To whom is that message directed at?

[rustic nova]

everyone whos generally around development

[rustic nova]

there should be a setting within your application dashboard for that

[proven lantern]

https://discord.com/developers/applications/[DOT_ID]/oauth2/general

Default Authorization Link

[patent onyx]

im assuming DOT_ID is Bot ID?

[proven lantern]

perhaps

[patent onyx]

lol

thank you guys so much

[earnest phoenix]

I don't think you can just say that when nobody said they are forced to do so, it's just people getting frustrated by someone not listening to the said people that are trying to help them

And when the said someone talks back like that in becomes a circus at this point, the frustration is completely valid IMO

Though I might be misunderstanding what you're exactly pointing at

[rustic nova]

Nah you're understanding it correct, I do entirely understand its frustrating yes

Am referring to how helping people here is entirely free to do, of course not saying everyone should ignore certain people they dont like helping, but getting frustrated to the point of possibly saying something they might regret in the end (which iirc we had before) isnt good either

[earnest phoenix]

Hmm I'm not sure if we actually had such a thing happen before but I do see your point, but I'm sure nobody said something they'd regret later on

[rustic nova]

but surely been verryyyy close to that

[earnest phoenix]

I suppose

[hushed robin]

does anyone know

i can't find

[deft wolf]

You can use discordjs guide or this https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/receiving-and-responding#interaction-response-object-modal

https://discordjs.guide/interactions/modals.html#building-and-responding-with-modals

I don't know how helpful this will be to you

[hushed robin]

thx

I think this will be enough

[hushed robin]

@deft wolf

hey

do you have an example of a modals JSON

[deft wolf]

Unfortunately not, I personally used the builder from discord.js

[hushed robin]

rip

i will look in the discord.js server

[deft wolf]

Good luck

[solemn latch]

receiving or responding?

(ie do you want the structure for receiving a modal submit, or what is included when you respond with a modal?)

receiving a modal submit interaction
https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/receiving-and-responding#interaction-object-modal-submit-data-structure

Responding to an interaction with a modal
https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/receiving-and-responding#responding-to-an-interaction
https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/message-components#text-inputs-text-input-example

[patent onyx]

I am a new discord bot developer and I have created a discord bot! Does anyone have any advice to grow my bot? I have my bot in 24 servers and I really want to get it to the 75 needed to verify it. So does anyone have any advice they can share to grow my discord bot!!!! 🙂 thank you!

[lyric mountain]

well, as you have green name I suppose you've added it to top.gg

[patent onyx]

yes I have!!!!

[lyric mountain]

which is bad if you're unlucky enough to get a lot of servers in a short timeframe

[patent onyx]

huh.....

[lyric mountain]

it's advised to wait until you're near 75 to then add to top.gg

else you run the risk of getting flagged for unnatural growth by discord

[patent onyx]

shoot. I've added it to top.gg, discord.bots.gg and discordbotlists.com

[lyric mountain]

well, you can also be lucky enough to have a big gap between invites

if it does happen, you might need to start again as I didn't hear about anyone managing to get unflagged for it

the best tip I can give is create a healthy relationship with your users

[patent onyx]

so should I remove them from all but top.gg ???

[lyric mountain]

no no, leave it there

removing then adding it again later is not advised

[patent onyx]

ok I see

[lyric mountain]

if your bot and your attention to them are good enough they'll eventually mention about it to other users

thus spreading naturally

[patent onyx]

uh huh

spreading it naturally

so what advice do you have just like sit back and let it grow (doesn't sound too good...)

[lyric mountain]

it's faster than you imagine

[sharp geyser]

As long as your bot is exceptional in the category it does word of mouth will be powerful

[lyric mountain]

like, find a good server to be a "ground zero", then act naturally until someone starts a topic about bots

[patent onyx]

my bots an economy bot

[lyric mountain]

then you can mention you have a bot, if the conversation allows then u can even talk about it for a bit

once the bot is there (if they add it), do your best to create a good image about it

[patent onyx]

I've added things such as real time stock data and crypto currency data 😭 as well as other games

[lyric mountain]

once the foundation is solid enough, and the server has a considerable amount of users it'll start spreading very quickly

[patent onyx]

so join 1 server that is relatively small and then stay true and like talk to the server

[lyric mountain]

just dont let ur bot fall into forgetfulness

[patent onyx]

ok wait... 😭 now im confused

[lyric mountain]

not relatively small, you want a good amount of users

like 3-4k

[patent onyx]

would you say like 50+ total members or whats the thing you'd say

[patent onyx]

oh...

😭 wait what so then just participate a lot and talk a lot

then slowly ease my bot into the conversation if it allows

[lyric mountain]

yes

[patent onyx]

and hopefully that server adds it and then the other members of the server add it to their own servers

and it grows in that server

[lyric mountain]

yes, that way both your bot and the server grow together

[patent onyx]

awesome ok so 3-4k members is the server I should shoot for

[lyric mountain]

around that yeah

your bot needs to be notable in what it does

like, if it's an economy bot make it so you can offer something to the server

like paid roles or minigames

[patent onyx]

like offer the free "premium" for a couple

[lyric mountain]

not in that sense of "offer"

I mean offer features to the server

be useful

[patent onyx]

ok I see

since its more of a economy bot should I aim for like a gaming server or one of those

[lyric mountain]

yep

keep asking yourself "there are many economy bots, what mine can offer to be notable?"

[patent onyx]

yeah I've always asked myself that

so I kept thinking of features to add

I added stuff like real time stock and crypto currency data and graphs and all that and then a couple other features

[lyric mountain]

also a thing that REALLY helps, but must be done at the start is i18n

which is having many languages for the bot

[patent onyx]

ah how do I impliment that

I use discord.py

[lyric mountain]

but you can always rewrite it later on

[lyric mountain]

kinda hard to explain, but the concept is the same regardless of the language

[patent onyx]

ah thats goiing to be a lot to impliment isnt it?

[lyric mountain]

you create files with a predictable name (like lang_en, lang_es, etc), then add a configuration to each guild for selecting which u want

[patent onyx]

ahhh thats smart multiple files and based on what the server sets their languange to call upon that file

[lyric mountain]

yes, then in those files u make a key-pair structure

can be json, yaml, init, whatever

just make sure they user the same keys

then u translate the value

[patent onyx]

yeah it might have to be JSON for me but yes I undestand how I might have to implimenmt that

[lyric mountain]

u dont need to do it now, but it's easier to do the earlier u are into a project

later on it becomes...awful to implement

[patent onyx]

yeah cause then from that it'll just be adding it as I go

instead of later one when i have like 50 commands and now have to change all of them

[lyric mountain]

yeah

I had to rewrite my bot because no way I'd be replacing 3k+ strings

[patent onyx]

awesome I will do that then!!!! any other advice you have to grow it? I will remmeber to add the languange thing and join a discord server and grow along with it

[patent onyx]

holy... what bot do you have and how many servers is it in???

[lyric mountain]

currently it's in 7.8k servers, it's a card collecting/moderation/levelling bot

[patent onyx]

wowww

card collection is amazing

like was it difficult?

[lyric mountain]

not exactly, but it involves a lot of optimization to keep everything snappy

[patent onyx]

ahh i can imagine... how long did it take to get to 7.8k servers????????

[lyric mountain]

the main feature tho, that one was complex

[patent onyx]

what was that

[lyric mountain]

I think it's been 3 years since I started, but I don't actively advertise

only top.gg and word of mouth

[patent onyx]

ahhh I see

and did you use that method that you told me?

[lyric mountain]

a tcg, like, an actual tcg

[lyric mountain]

yep

[patent onyx]

no way

a whole like trading card game?

[lyric mountain]

yep

[patent onyx]

dang that must've took a while

[lyric mountain]

I think I made the MVP in 2 months or so back in 2021, then it was constantly updated until mid 2022

then I started rewriting the bot entirely

[patent onyx]

what MVP?

[patent onyx]

oh wow.

[lyric mountain]

minimum viable product

as in, the "at least it's playable"

[patent onyx]

ohhh

yes I have heard of that

[lyric mountain]

but dont give up, once you get the momentum going you'll accumulate servers steadily

[patent onyx]

dang you are actually really helpful and good at this seriously I appreciate and thank you for helping me and giving some advice I am 150% going to use this to try and grow my discord bot!!!!

[lyric mountain]

then you start needing to worry about being able to supply all those servers

which is around 5k servers I think

[patent onyx]

awesome sersiously thank you imma keep trying to grow and keep trying to promote and update and add more to the bot

any other advice than that or should I stick true to that and keep repeating it

[lyric mountain]

hm, try to crack your mind as much as you can

the struggle is what teaches you the best ways to do something

[sharp geyser]

Also with the i18n thing mentioned earlier idk if haku said but it’s really easy to implement yourself you don’t need a package

All it is just indexing json files based on what language the server is set at

[patent onyx]

ok any advice to impliment it because what @lyric mountain told me is it would be easy to impliment using JSON files

[sharp geyser]

Yea json files is the best

[lyric mountain]

it's one option, I personally prefer properties

as I don't need to parse the whole thing

some_key=This is a text

[sharp geyser]

You can name the files lang_shorthand (lang_en) and just grab the json file based on the language set for the server

Then you can save that json file to a variable or map if you want and index that map for any keys you need

[patent onyx]

seriosuly you guys are both super helpful and im still in school and this is a hobby project so I am hoping to grow it but more importantly grow my own coding experience ... I also made this all by myself and im lowkey proud of it so thats mainly the thing to keep pushing myself to grow it

[sharp geyser]

I have an example of an i18n implementation in a different language but it’s rather easy to comprehend and could be ported over to python

If you want it lmk

[patent onyx]

yes if possible i'd like to see it!

[sharp geyser]

That’s what this channel is for don’t be afraid to ask for help. A good programmer uses every resource possible

[patent onyx]

yes thank you!!!

the bot has only been around since March 18th 2023

[lyric mountain]

once you get a considerable amount of texts I recommend using a non-parsed format

as you might start having issues with the size of the json

by big I mean like thousands of lines

[patent onyx]

yea... i can imagine

right now... ummm lemme show you smtg

4801... lines of code

[sharp geyser]

https://github.com/Mistyerious/locale

[patent onyx]

then I use mongoDB for storage and then some things are stored in JSON files

[sharp geyser]

I recommend looking into cogs if you are using discord.py

It’ll help you keep your code organized

[patent onyx]

yeah i need to teach myself that 😭

[lyric mountain]

lul yeah, try to split that into multiple files as misty said

[sharp geyser]

Also I hope you arent using json to store constantly accessed data

[lyric mountain]

but everyone starts like that

[patent onyx]

yes yes

and mongoDB

[sharp geyser]

I don’t recommend using json for any data that is constantly read or written to

Especially if it’s important data

[lyric mountain]

rule of thumb is: db for read/write, json for read-only

[patent onyx]

ok so here is how I have my stuff let me know what you think

I use mongoDB for my more constantly used storage

and then like approvedGiveawayusers, premium_members, and shop.json, and gamblingStats.json are my only JSON files

[sharp geyser]

I mean technically json is fine to use if it’s not written to at a constant rate but still bad practice to use it for storage of important data

It can be corrupted

[lyric mountain]

[object Object]

[patent onyx]

oh.

[sharp geyser]

If you’re only reading the json file it’s fine

But once you start writing to it corruption can occur

[patent onyx]

ok then would those be fine as they barely get updated

[patent onyx]

ok I see imma hope that doesnt happen 😭

imma have to then move them to mongoDB

[sharp geyser]

possibly but I wouldn’t risk it

[patent onyx]

awesome I will defenitly switch it over then!

[lyric mountain]

if u want a json-y storage u can also use redis

[sharp geyser]

^

One thing with redis is it’s not persistent by default

It’s more of a caching thing but it can be made to persist

[patent onyx]

redis?

[lyric mountain]

it's a key-value database that's mostly used for cache purposes

but can also be used in place of a frequently updated json file

[patent onyx]

ok imma see about that then

[sharp geyser]

You will need a Linux server for it though

Redis doesn’t run well on windows

[patent onyx]

oh...

😭

[sharp geyser]

Although I think you can use WSL

[lyric mountain]

btw, try to use linux for hosting the bot if possible

windows hogs so much resources to it

[sharp geyser]

If you need hosting lmk

[patent onyx]

i use an AWS VM

[sharp geyser]

I have a vps I hardly use

[lyric mountain]

aws is linux no?

[patent onyx]

i think so

[sharp geyser]

AWS has multiple options iirc

[sharp geyser]

If you need hosting lmk

[patent onyx]

alr alr

[sharp geyser]

I wont charge ya

[patent onyx]

😭 right now I get my hosting for free

[sharp geyser]

I have a vps I only use for my email server

[patent onyx]

but if I need to imma 100% message you

may I add you?

[lyric mountain]

you managed to get it working lmao

[sharp geyser]

Sure

[sharp geyser]

Barely

[patent onyx]

get what?

[sharp geyser]

It still interrupts other shit pointed to my VPs

[lyric mountain]

their email server

[sharp geyser]

That’s why my portfolio is broken

[patent onyx]

oh

[sharp geyser]

It keeps trying to use the SSL cert for my email server

[lyric mountain]

setupping an email is insanely annoying because everyone everywhere questions your authenticity

the smallest slip and you get sent to the spam folder

[sharp geyser]

It’s for my personal use anyways so ye

[lyric mountain]

https://github.com/OtagamerZ/ShiroJBot/blob/rewrite/src/main/resources/locale/lang_en.properties this is my locale file, btw

I prefix all lines with a category, not really necessary

[sharp geyser]

I wonder if people will find it useful for me to port my locale package to python

It’s shit anyone could do themselves but idk

[lyric mountain]

Worth a try

At worst it'll just be a leftover project, at best it'll help someone

[sharp geyser]

Fair enough

I’ll do it tonight

[earnest phoenix]

what's the correct way to host a discord bot if you want it to be scalable, I'm currently using screen to keep it running 24/7 on my ubuntu vps, is that the correct method or not?

[sharp geyser]

just use pm2

screen is a very crude way of doing it

@wheat mesa it would be better to screenshare what is happening

[earnest phoenix]

no container?

I've seen people use that, is there any difference in performance

[wheat mesa]

Uhh I can’t really watch rn

[sharp geyser]

I can take a vid then

[wheat mesa]

Sure

[sharp geyser]

See how I am sliding even after I stop moving (letting go of my WASD keys)

[wheat mesa]

Send the code you’re currently using for that clip rq

[sharp geyser]

using System;
using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class PlayerController : MonoBehaviour
{
    // Public Variables
    [SerializeField] public float movementSpeed = 10;
    public Rigidbody playerRigidBody;
    
    //Private Variables
    private InputManager inputManager;
    private Vector3 moveDirection;
    private Transform cameraTransform;
    
    private void Start()
    {
        inputManager = InputManager.Instance;
        cameraTransform = Camera.main.transform;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        Vector2 movement = inputManager.GetPlayerMovement();
        Vector3 move = Time.deltaTime * movementSpeed * (new Vector3(movement.x, 0f, movement.y));
        move = cameraTransform.forward.normalized * move.z + cameraTransform.right.normalized * move.x;
        move.y = 0f;
        moveDirection = move;
    }

    private void FixedUpdate()
    {
        if (moveDirection.magnitude == 0)
        {
            playerRigidBody.velocity += Vector3.zero;
        }
        else
        {
            playerRigidBody.velocity += moveDirection;
        }
    }
}

[wheat mesa]

You’re doing += Vector3.zero

Set it to zero instead

[sharp geyser]

You can't do that

velocity expects a Vector3

Vector3.zero is just new Vector3(0,0,0)

[wheat mesa]

I know

[sharp geyser]

[wheat mesa]

playerRigidBody.velocity = Vector3.zero

[sharp geyser]

Ah

That works

For now

[wheat mesa]

👍

[lyric mountain]

Honestly, I prefer screen

Idk, allows me to have separate command histories, and keep everything separate

Also easy access to where I left it in

[sharp geyser]

to each their own

I find screens to be very crude

[hushed robin]

whats wrong with this embed

{
    author: {
        name: user.username,
        icon_url: user.displayAvatarURL()
    },
    description: vouch?.content,
    fields: {
        name: 'Attachments',
        value: vouch.files?.map(file => `[Link](${file})`).join(', ') || 'None'
    },
    footer: {
        text: `Want to commission? Make a ticket!`,
        icon_url: Images.SGAdvArrow
    },
    color: Colors.Review
}```

oh wait

nvm i think

[sharp geyser]

Well what is happening that you don't expect

[hushed robin]

i fixed fields takes an array

i forgor

[sharp geyser]

yep

@wheat mesaidk if you will know this answer, but what do you think would be the best way to tell if the rigidbody is "grounded"

I was thinking of checking collisions but that doesn't necessarily mean they are on something solid and not running into something solid as well

[hushed robin]

hey

[sharp geyser]

Actually I think the best method is to use a downward raycast

[hushed robin]

do you know how i can return nothing if there's no files

[sharp geyser]

Wdym

[hushed robin]

like you see hhere

[sharp geyser]

you mean if vouch.files is null?

[hushed robin]

if there's no files it'll just set the fields value to None

how can i make it not add the field at all

[sharp geyser]

Yea what about it

Well

[wheat mesa]

use logic

if statements

[hushed robin]

i tried an if statement in there

it error

[sharp geyser]

you can use an if statement or possibly a ternary operator

[wheat mesa]

"but that means I need more variables 😢"

[wheat mesa]

yeah doesn't help me to tell me that

[hushed robin]

so your saying i need to make an extra variable

[wheat mesa]

🤷‍♂️

[sharp geyser]

Do you think using a downward raycast to see if the player is touching terrain/floor is a proper method to see if they are grounded waffle?

[hushed robin]

how can i do it without

[sharp geyser]

💀

[wheat mesa]

sounds about right? That's similar to what I did with my game engine for ground checks vs wall checks, granted it was 2d

same concept should apply though

[sharp geyser]

I see

[hushed robin]

@wheat mesa

[sharp geyser]

I don't think I will need to check for walls though will I?

As long as a wall has a collider it should make it so my character won't walk/run through it.

I don't see any functional reason to check for walls so I should be fine not doing so right?

[wheat mesa]

likely not

For me it was different because my engine didn't have checks like that

(I am lazy) ((I hate programming quadtrees in java))

[sharp geyser]

Lmao

    private bool IsPlayerGrounded()
    {
        return Physics.Raycast(playerRigidBody.position, Vector3.down);
    }

well this returns true

but

    public bool PlayerJumped()
    {
        return playerControls.Player.Jump.triggered;
    }

this doesn't

despite me pressing space

😔

Unity's new input system is confusing me

[hushed robin]

anyone know how i can do the above

getting approved is ez

just follow guidelines

is your bot Proje or Ro-Linker

why is that the applications name

js?

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@top-gg/sdk

[wheat mesa]

you sure you have it bound correctly?

[sharp geyser]

It should be ye

[hushed robin]

u can use the api

but you'll possibly run into ratelimit issues

i mean

the ratelimit is 60 requests / minute iirc

no api

webhooks don't have a ratelimit

which is why it's preferred

https://topgg.js.org/classes/api#hasVoted

idk

well yeah, webhooks are the ideal option

👍

[neon leaf]

is there a react library that allows image cropping like this? (uptime kuma)

[vivid fulcrum]

https://github.com/DominicTobias/react-image-crop

customize it to your liking

[neon leaf]

I already tried that

it doesnt display 16:9 images as 1:1 like uptime kuma

[rustic nova]

oh pog

[eternal osprey]

hey guys is it possible to have a sort of module in my main file. which will run another bot automatically when the main bot starts?

like i want to have 2 index.js files which each wil contain a client.login but with different tokens ofc

i was thinking about using child_process and using its exec

[vivid fulcrum]

you didn't try hard enough

literally everything in that library is modifiable, including the aspect ratio

[earnest phoenix]

Oh hey Cry, long time no see

Where you been? 👀

[neon leaf]

I know, I did apply it, still didnt display it as 1:1, only the crop was 1:1

[vivid fulcrum]

you're doing something wrong, by modifying the aspect ratio in their codesandbox i get the result you want

[neon leaf]

give me the link then

[vivid fulcrum]

it's in their readme

[vivid fulcrum]

just life in general, i naturally got busy because employment 🥲

[neon leaf]

I want it to display the entire image 1:1 like in uptime kuma

not the crop

[vivid fulcrum]

barely get on my pc anymore because the last thing i want to do after 8 hours of staring at a laptop is stare at another screen

but i at least get paid for my dev time now 🙃

how you been doing

[vivid fulcrum]

you can still modify it

[neon leaf]

not like in uptime kuma though

[vivid fulcrum]

keep the cropping logic from the library, customize it using your own components and css styling

[neon leaf]

if I force it I cant drag

[earnest phoenix]

Oh damn, missed you here, I've been incredibly busy as well (as you might be able to tell from my about me)

[neon leaf]

that was not my question, if you dont have an answer dont answer

[vivid fulcrum]

if you're looking for something prebuilt, you won't find it. the lib helps you implement the logic you want

now, whether you know how to do it or not is on you 🤷‍♂️

[frosty gale]

i swear js changed completely since i last learnt it

since when were private class attributes and defining attributes outside of a constructor/method a thing??

js is evolving into the master language

soon we'll be programming large language models in js

... once js gets tensors and methods for manipulating large mathematical structures easily maybe even on the gpu????

who knows what the future holds for java holy script

[deft wolf]