The hell
#development
earnest phoenix
frosty gale
same reaction
frosty gale
oh wait i see what theyre doing
lament rock
execute order 66
frosty gale
theyre only using it to compare two roles
in a very weird way
this code hurts my head
sick agate
yeah same
proven lantern
if the roles are equal then they should return 0
earnest phoenix
execute order 66
Sir yes sir, "force people to use Rust to make websites by breaking the web"
hushed robin
whats a BigInt
frosty gale
yeah but cant they just do if id === id2
lyric mountain
a long
slender wagon
Is there a killsswitch for a discord rpc
frosty gale
but thats comparing ids not positions
frosty gale
what are these mfs cooking
lyric mountain
cache
lament rock
Soon, the JS Jedi temple will fall
frosty gale
i shouldnt expand that macro
deft wolf
frosty gale
well he expanded it alright
earnest phoenix
How dare you say that Flaze, you shall be applied a pregnancy mute!!
sharp geyser
motherfuckers
woah woah woah, you shouldn't do that to mothers!
pale vessel
but thats comparing ids not positions
IDs could go over the maximum safe integer so they have to turn them to bigints before they could compare them
frosty gale
not necessarily some are open source contributions by normal people
frosty gale
IDs could go over the maximum safe integer so they have to turn them to bigints ...
but ids are strings?
lyric mountain
ids are longs
sharp geyser
ids are just stringified big ints are they not
frosty gale
ids are longs
wtf since when
lyric mountain
since always
sharp geyser
ids are longs
js has longs?
lyric mountain
we just use strings cuz they're more convenient
frosty gale
i mean its more efficient than strings but i thought they always used strings
proven lantern
but ids are strings?
they are strings
lyric mountain
bigint in js case
proven lantern
strings of number characters
lyric mountain
I mean in discord side
lament rock
You cannot do math on strings in JS
frosty gale
You cannot do math on strings in JS
its a canon event i cannot interfere
lyric mountain
there're some shenanigans for calculating an id
it's not solely based on timestamp
lament rock
Snowflakes are complex
lyric mountain
nope
lament rock
Dates are the main contributer for IDs to overflow into character length
lyric mountain
ids are constant, there's a field for role positions on the data discord sends
lament rock
0 is a valid ID btw, but nothing is attached to it
sharp geyser
isn't clyde ID 0?
lament rock
clyde is fake. Not a user
earnest phoenix
slender wagon
I fucking love youtube shorts. Its not like tiktok https://youtube.com/shorts/Pagl1zg0j4A?feature=share
lament rock
The client fakes Clyde
neon leaf
why cant I use typescript parameter decorators in projects that emit declaration files? 🤔
frosty gale
why dont they just integrate big int with int
good question
it would be convenient if ints rolled over to bigints if large enough
frosty gale
but might be annoying to keep checking
sick agate
lol
sharp geyser
Sounds like fun
hushed robin
@urban karma
lament rock
You can fetch the user from the API
sharp geyser
What are you confused about
lament rock
hushed robin
me?
frosty gale
i just accepted it at this point
frosty gale
but ids are unique to a role and dont depend on role position?
pale vessel
that's only for the if statement
sharp geyser
I mean easiest way to find out why they did it is to ask in the djs server
frosty gale
theres no reason to subtract 2 ids from each other even if youre doing it to read some snowflake value youd break the snowflake by doing that
pale vessel
;/
pale vessel
look at the return in the if block
frosty gale
wait wtf
if the 2 roles have the same position
they must be the same role?
in that case its always 0?
then why not return 0?
because 2 same numbers subtracting each other is 0 assuming theyre positive
pale vessel
not sure why they don't just return a 0?
lyric mountain
wonder how do u even get 2 roles at the same position
sharp geyser
yknow I was going to ask djs themselves but I can't be asked
frosty gale
assuming theyre both positive
pale vessel
by providing the same roles
frosty gale
which ids are positive
lyric mountain
I mean, yeah but there HAD to be some precedent for them to add that check
frosty gale
not sure why they don't just return a 0?
exactly LMAO
lyric mountain
it's like when people write ```java
if (somevalue == null) {
somevalue = null;
}
It could be a fail safe in case shit like that happens
sick agate
likely
pale vessel
try checking the commits for that file
sick agate
discord js experience
pale vessel
maybe they explained why they did that
frosty gale
git blame to the rescue
earnest phoenix
why dont they just integrate big int with int
JavaScript numbers are represented as IEEE-754 double-precision (64-bit) floating point numbers, because of this it limits their precision heavily
Because of that it only gives you 53-bits of precision for integers for the size of the available mantissa
Meanwhile BigInts are integer-only, no floating point numbers can be represented by them, and so they can provide you with an arbitrary-precision
Have a read to one of our blogs explaining it entirely:
https://v8.dev/features/bigint
frosty gale
this is an old commit
sharp geyser
git blame to the rescue
They've apparently renamed that file like 20 times
so each commit history gets wonky
lyric mountain
this is an old commit
see if there's a PR linked to it
frosty gale
see if there's a PR linked to it
this is the only thing that shows up on git blame https://github.com/discordjs/discord.js/commit/1e00fc200173686f7fdc50405e63c894077e9d59
sharp geyser
yknow while this is interesting, I learned not to question discord.js fuckery after deep diving into their library to try and see if I can model my own after it
frosty gale
but theyve renamed files so you cant be sure
lyric mountain
no, I mean the PR
proven lantern
JavaScript numbers are represented as IEEE-754 double-precision (64-bit) floatin...
any plans to switch the number type to DEC64?
lyric mountain
u can click on the hash number at the top
to see if anyone commented abt that line
sharp geyser
yea so like I said, it was a fail safe in case some extreme edge case occured
I mean
It does the job
discord.js is the defintion of overengineered and bloat
what can you expect
Makes sense they did it tho
While its rare it is still a possiblity
It would take some serious occurances but
earnest phoenix
any plans to switch the number type to DEC64?
No
-
It has significantly less exponent range than IEEE decimal64 (it effectively throws away almost three bits in order to have the exponent fit in a byte; 2^56 is ~7.2E16, which means that it can represent some, but not all, 17-digit significands; the effective working precision is 16 digits, which actually requires only ~53.15 bits)
-
Even if you weren’t going to use those extra bits for exponent, they could be profitably used for other purposes
-
Lack of infinity is a mild annoyance
-
Rounding is biased for add/sub/mul, broken for divide
-
It's not significantly more computationally efficient than the IEEE formats, despite handwaving by the author of the format
lyric mountain
edge cases as lorax said
hushed robin
why don't you guys ask in the discord.js server?
they have a forum for stuff like this
lyric mountain
he speak for the trees d.js
sharp geyser
In case 2 roles where made at the EXACT same time
lyric mountain
it's like when people write ```java
if (somevalue == null) {
somevalue = null;...
like this ^
sharp geyser
Which is why its called an edge case, it isn't something likely to occur all the time
but still a possiblity
lyric mountain
reasoning for this (the one I mentioned) code is usually to prevent bit flips from cosmic rays
quartz kindle
No
- It has significantly less exponent range than IEEE decimal64 (it effective...
i actually searched for pros and cons between both formats and couldnt really find anything, ty for explaining
although wiki says dec64's range is larger than bin64
keen juniper
i want to post my guild count, im using python
bot.topggpy = topgg.DBLClient(bot, d_token)
do i need to pass the commands.Bot class for bot?
proven lantern
No
- It has significantly less exponent range than IEEE decimal64 (it effective...
what does it mean for rounding to be biased?
lyric mountain
i want to post my guild count, im using python
`bot.topggpy = topgg.DBLClient(bo...
uhh, wdym?
bot is supposed to be your client instance
keen juniper
yes thats what i mean
lyric mountain
the one u used for login
earnest phoenix
although wiki says dec64's range is larger than bin64
That's technically incorrect
sharp geyser
just pass whatever client instance you made when running the bot
keen juniper
alrigt
sharp geyser
@lyric mountain I remember when I tried making my own discord lib, this was when I thought libless was the best
It worked rather well but the hassel of maintaining it was annoying so I threw it away
lyric mountain
<@350836145921327115> I remember when I tried making my own discord lib, this wa...
going libless is like surviving in the arctic naked
it's all fun and giggles until a cold gust comes and u notice there's nowhere to hide
sharp geyser
Its fun for the first 2s then you realize you shouldn't but you're already too invested to turn back
lyric mountain
then you see a polar bear (cloudflare) coming running at u
sharp geyser
and realize you've hit your 1000 login limit cause of a bug with your websocket send method
lyric mountain
1 day respawn timer
sharp geyser
Lmfao
I was trying to incorporate a rate limit handler into my send method
it ended up sending the login thing like 1000 times in 2s
sharp geyser
Yes discord does!
hushed robin
where
sharp geyser
On their docs
hushed robin
link
earnest phoenix
what does it mean for rounding to be biased?
When rounding is biased, it means that there is a tendency for the rounding to consistently favor numbers in a certain range or direction
This can occur when there is a specific rule or method of rounding that is used consistently, regardless of the actual value being rounded, for example, a rounding method that always rounds up to the nearest 10 could be biased towards larger numbers, even if the number being rounded is closer to a smaller value
This bias can affect the accuracy and fairness of calculations and may need to be adjusted or corrected in order to ensure consistent and unbiased results
pale vessel
sharp geyser
they have a .dev domain now?
pale vessel
they've always had it
lyric mountain
When rounding is biased, it means that there is a tendency for the rounding to c...
that rounding thing is especially annoying with banks
proven lantern
When rounding is biased, it means that there is a tendency for the rounding to c...
so after 16 decimal places the rounding would be biased?
or before?
sharp geyser
i don't see code here
https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/gateway start reading here
you'll eventually find it
hushed robin
https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/gateway start reading here
im here
theres no code examples
sharp geyser
Okay maybe I exaggerated there isn't really any code on how to connect
but it tells you how
lyric mountain
too bad battle is allergic to python
sharp geyser
with a neat diagram
hushed robin
i need code example
lyric mountain
in python <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
^
hushed robin
i've never worked with websockets before
lyric mountain
damn that sucks
pale vessel
python is literally pseudocode 😭
hushed robin
would i use this websocket
lyric mountain
python is a runnable yaml
hushed robin
sharp geyser
not to mention that has comments
sharp geyser
https://www.npmjs.com/package/ws
yes
hushed robin
ok
sharp geyser
that's what I used for my lib
lyric mountain
rust devs sweating
frank pollen
I have created a command for my Discord bot to give everyone a role, and the code is correct.
However, it only assigns the role to 5 people every time I use the command.
I don't think it's related to the server permissions because I have tested it on different servers, and it only assigns the role to 5 people in all of them.
earnest phoenix
so after 16 decimal places the rounding would be biased?
That depends on the rounding method that is used, in general, rounding after 16 decimal places is unlikely to introduce a high amount of bias, but can and that's not a good thing when you rely on accurate calculations
sharp geyser
rust devs sweating
jokes on you discord is made in rust
they just dont like telling people
frank pollen
Could it be related to the Discord API?
quartz kindle
That's technically incorrect
this is what wiki says:
frank pollen
Okey i will send
const Discord = require("discord.js");
const client = new Discord.Client();
exports.run = async (client, message, args) => {
if (!message.member.permissions.has("MANAGE_ROLES")) {
return message.channel.send(` Bu komutu kullanabilmek için "\`Rolleri Yönet\`" yetkisine sahip olmalısın.`);
}
const roleMention = message.mentions.roles.first();
if (!roleMention) {
return message.reply("Lütfen bir rol etiketleyin.");
}
try {
await message.guild.members.fetch();
message.guild.members.cache.forEach(async (member) => {
if (!member.roles.cache.has(roleMention.id)) {
await member.roles.add(roleMention.id);
}
});
message.channel.send(`Herkese ${roleMention} rolü verme işlemi tamamlandı.`);
} catch (err) {
console.error("Hata oluştu:", err);
message.channel.send("Herkese rol verirken bir hata oluştu.");
}
};
exports.conf = {
permLevel: 0,
aliases: ["herkese-rol-ver"],
komut: "herkese-rol-ver"
};```the office space guys could write a program to collect all the fraction of pennies into an acount. that could be an issue
lyric mountain
```js
const Discord = require("discord.js");
const client = new Discord.Client()...
async in forEach is never a good thing
frank pollen
i will test it 1 second.
pale vessel
you don't need to but u should
but yeah, use a for loop instead of forEach
it's a good practice, plus for error handling
hushed robin
um
pale vessel
that command seems really spammy though
deft wolf
I will wait 4-5 seconds before adding role to next member
pale vessel
it's even better to await it
deft wolf
On big servers it's gonna take some time but yes
frank pollen
When I use the command to give roles to everyone, the bot is slowly assigning them. But it seems like Discord is not allowing instant role assignment.
earnest phoenix
this is what wiki says:
That's just incorrect, here's why:
IEEE 754 is a standard for numerical representation of floating-point numbers that supports both single-precision (32-bit) and double-precision (64-bit) formats, allowing for larger range and precision than DEC64
The single precision format can represent numbers up to 3.4 × 10^38 with a precision of about 7 decimal digits, while the double precision format can represent numbers up to 1.8 × 10^308 with a precision of about 16 decimal digits
Meanwhile, DEC64 is a decimal floating-point format that uses 64-bits to represent decimal numbers, it was designed to provide exact decimal representation and decimal arithmetic without any loss of accuracy
However, its range is more limited than IEEE 754, with only about 16 significant digits of precision and a maximum value of approximately 10^384, while its precision is higher than IEEE 754 in the decimal domain, it is not suitable for scientific and engineering applications that require the larger range and binary precision of IEEE 754
frank pollen
I agree, it seems that Discord does not allow instant role assignment.
hushed robin
When I use the command to give roles to everyone, the bot is slowly assigning th...
probably cus discord.js is queuing them
grim aspen
That's just incorrect, here's why:
IEEE 754 is a standard for numerical represe...
i agree with this ^
hushed robin
so you don't get ratelimited
pale vessel
roblox dev moment
hushed robin
roblox :lego:
frank pollen
I can do it as follows:
The bot will retrieve the number of members in the server.
It will calculate the time based on the number of members.
It will assign roles at a rate of one role per second, for example, 495x1=495.
The message to the user would be:
I will have assigned roles to all members within 495 seconds!
proven lantern
That's just incorrect, here's why:
IEEE 754 is a standard for numerical represe...
having exact decimal representation would be a nice thing. 0.1 + 0.2 === 0.3 would be nice
earnest phoenix
But having a lower limited precision is worse, where it's required in lots of places like I mentioned at the end
quartz kindle
i still dont get it, it says both have 16 digits of precision
sharp geyser
👀 what is tast.wait() ?
think of task.wait as a way of telling the process to stop until a certain amount of time has passed
this is most commonly used in loops in lua
earnest phoenix
If you need mostly accurate comparisons then you would need to use an approximation with an epsilon of correct size to do it right
hushed robin
await new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve , 250));
you can do something like that to mimic it
frosty gale
reset your mongodb login
hushed robin
🧌
maiden gazelle
fr
solemn latch
ah, you're probably writing code like you would in lua but using js.
If I tried to write like I do in js but using lua Id probably have the same complaints 👀
earnest phoenix
i still dont get it, it says both have 16 digits of precision
You've misunderstood it, DEC64 has 16 decimal digits, but has 14 digits of precision
frosty gale
That's just incorrect, here's why:
IEEE 754 is a standard for numerical represe...
ayo ive learnt about exponents and mantissas in computer science
proven lantern
If you need mostly accurate comparisons then you would need to use an approximat...
i nerver knew this was a thing
pale vessel
```js
await new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve , 250));
```
you can also just require const { setTimeout } = require("timers/promises"); and await setTimeout(250);
earnest phoenix
Yep, epsilons are pretty important
quartz kindle
You've misunderstood it, DEC64 has 16 decimal digits, but has 14 digits of preci...
ah i see, i dont remember seeing that in the wiki
frank pollen
That makes sense, so it will be a clean code. But in order to define this time, I will have to set up a full minute of waiting and then determine how many members received roles within that minute.
hushed robin
you can also just require `const { setTimeout } = require("timers/promises");` a...
look here
thats basically it
earnest phoenix
ayo ive learnt about exponents and mantissas in computer science
Very good
hushed robin
✨
quartz kindle
i still largely dont get binary floating points
they use a bunch of math tricks
i hate math
frosty gale
If you make exponent bits smaller you reduce the range/size of the float number and if you make the mantissa smaller you reduce the precision
veryc ool
grim aspen
i hate math too
solemn latch
i hate math
whats 9 + 10 though?
quartz kindle
14
grim aspen
whats 9 + 10 though?
32
frosty gale
i still largely dont get binary floating points
yeah had to learn it in cs
theyre represented in twos complement too
proven lantern
0.1 + 0.2 < 0.3 + Number.EPSILON && 0.1 + 0.2 > 0.3 - Number.EPSILON
new JS idiom. i will do this everywhere
quartz kindle
yeah had to learn it in cs
i did come up with a variable float representation tho, that can fit into 1-8 bytes, for my srializer
but it uses base 10 exponents
because idk how to do it with base 2
solemn latch
`0.1 + 0.2 < 0.3 + Number.EPSILON && 0.1 + 0.2 > 0.3 - Number.EPSILON`
new JS id...
true though
hushed robin
why do people use moment.js so much if it's not getting updated anymore
frosty gale
they like to live in the moment
maiden gazelle
does somebody know why my console is saying this
const Discord = require('discord.js')
const { Database } = require("quickmongo");
const db = new Database('my beautiful mongo login');
module.exports = {
name: 'bump',
description: 'bump the server',
category: 'bumpsystem',
run: async(interaction, bot, args) => {
await db.connect()
const data = await db.get(`advertisement-${interaction.guild.id}`)
let channel = data.channel
let description = data.description
let invite = data.invite
await db.push(`bumps`, {
channel: `${interaction.channel.id}`,
time: `${Date.now()}`,
guild: `${interaction.guild.id}`,
user: `${interaction.user.id}`
})
const embed = new Discord.EmbedBuilder()
.setTitle(`${interaction.guild.id}`)
.setDescription(`**Description:** ${description}
**Members:** ${interaction.guild.memberCount}
**Invite:** https://discord.gg/${data.invite}`)
.setColor("#B468FF")
await channel.send({ embeds: [embed] })
}
}
earnest phoenix
why do people use moment.js so much if it's not getting updated anymore
There's Luxon.js which is recommended by Moment.js, it had the same API as Moment.js but improved and also has additional features
maiden gazelle
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
its for my own bumping system
proven lantern
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
channel is a data object. no functions
frosty gale
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
you cant store the channel itself in the database
yeah have to fetch it
hushed robin
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
let channel = bot.channels.cache.get(data.channel);
maiden gazelle
oh
frosty gale
is data.channel the id of the channel?
lyric mountain
In groovy we just ```groovy
someArray.each {
...do stuff
}
Ye
hushed robin
lmao is discord down?
frosty gale
let channel = bot.channels.cache.get(data.channel);
then ye this will work
check if channel exists though!!
deft wolf
lmao is discord down?
Kinda
lyric mountain
someArray.each {
Thread.sleep(millis)
}
Though the need for date manipulation libraries will mostly be gone as we implement the Temporal APIs to the JavaScript programming language
hushed robin
check if channel exists though!!
if (!channel) return interaction.reply('channel no exist')
why try?
if they have the Guilds intent all channels will always be cached, if it's undefined then it doesn't exist
oh
you should try catch in the handler
just a tick
and unlimited server count
besides that it doe snothing
actually makes it harder on u
lyric mountain
Not unlimited no
hushed robin
u need to apply for priviliged intents
lyric mountain
After a certain point u kinda do another verification
lyric mountain
U find another wall at around 100k guilds or so
U need to do another verification to get expanded limits once u reach that threshold
hushed robin
no, you can keep the intents while your bot is verified but others will not be able to invite it
till you're either approved or no longer have them enabled
maiden gazelle
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
and does somebody know how i get the server pfp on the top right of a embed
lyric mountain
and does somebody know how i get the server pfp on the top right of a embed
setThumbnail
hushed robin
.setThumbnail(interaction.guild.iconURL()) i think
maiden gazelle
.setThumbnail(interaction.guild.iconURL()) i think
ty i will try
tulip ledge
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
Are you initiating a new Database in every command?
You should probably connect to your database once in your main file and save it to the client object
otherwise you have like 20 different connections and it could mess up data
frosty gale
Are you initiating a new Database in every command?
didnt even notice that lmao
maiden gazelle
Are you initiating a new Database in every command?
i already fixed it
earnest phoenix
U find another wall at around 100k guilds or so
There's no limit on how many servers a Discord bot can join after verification
frosty gale
There's no limit on how many servers a Discord bot can join after verification
int32 integer precision:
lyric mountain
They have that expanded limits program exactly for such big bots
earnest phoenix
Where u can no longer login from the sheer amount of requests
Oh you're talking about the ratelimits, not exactly the amount of servers a bot can join
lyric mountain
Yeah, it's not like a hard cap
hushed robin
Where u can no longer login from the sheer amount of requests
i mean people can still invite your bot then
lyric mountain
But unless u get approved for expanded limits ur kinda stuck at that limit
hushed robin
But unless u get approved for expanded limits ur kinda stuck at that limit
what happens if you get denied
lyric mountain
If you manage to get denied you're stuck at that limit
hushed robin
oh
lyric mountain
Cuz you've hit the daily limit
earnest phoenix
I have not seen a single large bot get denied for higher ratelimits, you must do something incredibly stupid to be denied for it
lyric mountain
And iirc the bot is reduced to a crawl from the remaining ratelimits
lyric mountain
I have not seen a single large bot get denied for higher ratelimits, you must do...
That's why I said "if u manage to get denied"
earnest phoenix
Yeah I know
hushed robin
whats stopping people from lying in their verification application
frosty gale
I have not seen a single large bot get denied for higher ratelimits, you must do...
they do sometimes decline them
lyric mountain
ToS and the fact that they track your requests
frosty gale
but thats usually because it can be managed by the bot itself
lyric mountain
So they can audit if what ur saying is true
frosty gale
something like doing 2 requests instead of 1 or delays
hushed robin
probably not
grim aspen
no
earnest phoenix
they do sometimes decline them
Correct though I haven't seen any of them being denied myself
frosty gale
they wouldnt deny them just because they want to though
earnest phoenix
That's either network issues or the Discord API being #starboard message
lyric mountain
When u hit the CONNECT limit u can't login at all for 1 day
frosty gale
they reserve that for bot verification
earnest phoenix
Note that the login limit is 1,000 per day by default
maiden gazelle
does somebody know why my console is saying this
```js
const Discord = require(...
it should send the advert in every server it has been setup in but it only sends it in the interacted server
hushed robin
it should send the advert in every server it has been setup in but it only sends...
because your only sending it to one channel
🗿
earnest phoenix
glitch.com:
Nah more like Replit
frosty gale
lol
maiden gazelle
because your only sending it to one channel
do you maybe know how i can do that
frosty gale
i swear glitchs dying now that it got acquired by some company and they basically killed bot hosting
forums are almost dead
lyric mountain
I mean, glitch was 80% discord bots
frosty gale
they also added these "project hours" so if you use an amount of hours in your project a week/month overall in all your projects you cant have them running anymore
grim aspen
there's a reason we(not me)don't use glitch anymore
hushed robin
do you maybe know how i can do that
just loop through the servers with it enabled
i assume u have it in your database?
frosty gale
they also suspend any project automatically that has an npm library that automatically handles uptime robot pings lmao
grim aspen
reminds me of when youtube ratelimits API requests on discord bots
hushed robin
just get a cheap server
maiden gazelle
just loop through the servers with it enabled
yea the problem is idk how to do that tbh
frosty gale
wont be surprised if they sent an email to everything saying "its been fun"
solemn latch
👀 replit will go the same way, I mean locking down bot hosting
sick agate
possible
grim aspen
i still use a vps
frosty gale
they also downsized massively they used to have a few forum support staff now theres only one
solemn latch
heroku went that way too
hushed robin
yea the problem is idk how to do that tbh
when you have array of servers
for (const server of servers) {
...
}
didnt they post a big ass message claming they would never do that
a few years ago
lmao
sick agate
a few years ago
grim aspen
issue with replit being a host is that if your project is public basically it's free real estate
sick agate
yup
earnest phoenix
i hate math
Also
sick agate
free real tokens
frosty gale
honestly its their fault they should just let people host projects forever with some restrictions isntead of having to use uptime robot which probably ddosses them every 5 minutes
hushed robin
issue with replit being a host is that if your project is public basically it's ...
not if you buy their premium thing
grim aspen
basically like github
hushed robin
for like $5 a month
grim aspen
not if you buy their premium thing
we don't talk about their premium
frosty gale
for like $5 a month
thats the yearly price monthly is like $10
lyric mountain
U have to be stupid to buy glitch premium
hushed robin
thats the yearly price monthly is like $10
same thing
frosty gale
well maybe i dont wanna buy a whole yaer
grim aspen
a VPS is cheaper than replit and glitch premium combined
sick agate
yup
hushed robin
i agree
grim aspen
screw glitch
frosty gale
galaxygate with their $3 a month vps hosting:
hushed robin
I love galaxygate
solemn latch
👀 how would they make money off ads?
earnest phoenix
i cant speak arabic
But you can speak catgirl language like a precious one you are :^)
hushed robin
been with them for awhile
grim aspen
digital ocean is good (not promoting)
frosty gale
yeah galaxygate is great
grim aspen
But you can speak catgirl language like a precious one you are :^)
that made me phisically cringe
quartz kindle
But you can speak catgirl language like a precious one you are :^)
UwU
lyric mountain
👀 how would they make money off ads?
Force users to add a d.js code for sending ads randomly during usage smh
grim aspen
wtf
earnest phoenix
DigitalOcean is generally the best one you're gonna get if you can afford it
sick agate
UwU
solemn latch
Force users to add a d.js code for sending ads randomly during usage smh
I like this plan
grim aspen
it's what i use
frosty gale
please dont take me to twitter.com and cancel me
solemn latch
Lets make a host like glitch just for this
hushed robin
i've had 0 downtime in 6 months with do
sick agate
genius
grim aspen
but also if you can't afford to pay digital ocean vps then you can easily get blacklisted
sick agate
imagine ads in nuke bots
hushed robin
why doesn't discord allow u to advertise on your bot
that would be a perfect money maker for big bots
lyric mountain
They do allow wdym
hushed robin
no
lyric mountain
U just can't shove it
grim aspen
tfym they do allow it
hushed robin
U just can't shove it
😵💫
lyric mountain
U can put ads if they're not intrusive
hushed robin
grim aspen
p2w games
lyric mountain
Do not target
grim aspen
i don't think that's what we meant'
lyric mountain
That's called shoving
grim aspen
we meant like putting it on bot bio or something
lyric mountain
Or in a profile image or smth
hushed robin
# Do not target
so i can put an advertisement on every message in the footer?
grim aspen
^
oak cliff
Discord doesn't allow you to target users with advertisements
hushed robin
so can u or not
grim aspen
but you can put ads in your bot's bio
oak cliff
So you can't put sponsors or partners in the footers of embeds
earnest phoenix
That's called shoving
oak cliff
You can't have unsolicited ads. So if a user solicits them, then u can have them. Like running a command to see ads is fine
Them showing in other responses is unsolicited
hushed robin
hm ok
grim aspen
that makes sense now
oak cliff
So a !partners command is fine to have as the user has to run the command to see it
lyric mountain
hm, a bit weird but makes sense
oak cliff
But in the footers of other responses is not allowed as the user isn't consenting or soliciting the ad
lyric mountain
kinda of how we use -vote for asking to vote in topgg
oak cliff
They've talked about it a lot in the dev server
lyric mountain
that's technically ads
oak cliff
kinda of how we use `-vote` for asking to vote in topgg
Ye
Anything relates to the bot you can promote freely, such as a support server or website
But anything else isn't allowed
spark flint
You can't have unsolicited ads. So if a user solicits them, then u can have them...
Then Carlbot breaks tos advertising Piggy and their crypto shit in status and random responses
Absolute moment
oak cliff
That would be fine yeah
hushed robin
so can i theoretically have a button for a user to watch an ad to get a reward?
oak cliff
Then Carlbot breaks tos advertising Piggy and their crypto shit in status and ra...
I think they're owned by the same company or something? So it's fair game
I remember someone saying something about it
spark flint
Bluestacks also advertised their targeted sponsors thing that used discord message data, until they had to close it down
spark flint
I think they're owned by the same company or something? So it's fair game
Both owned by Botlabs
oak cliff
Idk I'm not discord lmao
oak cliff
so can i theoretically have a button for a user to watch an ad to get a reward?
I'm not sure on this one
spark flint
But it would still be unsolicited since it’s advertising a completely different platform/bot
oak cliff
Probably have to ask in the ddevs server
spark flint
Anyways discord doesn’t enforce bot tos
oak cliff
I know we've declined those survey type reward bots before
Fill out surveys for cash and then redeem it
spark flint
Discord dev compliance team confirmed Mushroom violated tos regarding something I can’t disclose yet and then didn’t take action against them
oak cliff
Oopsie poopsie
spark flint
Actually i can probably disclose soon
grim aspen
I know we've declined those survey type reward bots before
didn't we use to do that?
spark flint
Been nearly 90 days
hushed robin
Discord dev compliance team confirmed Mushroom violated tos regarding something ...
😵💫
grim aspen
like i mean have surveys in topgg
oak cliff
They have let bigger bots/companies in the past slightly skew tos in their favor lmao
spark flint
Yeah
oak cliff
But that's a company making money for you
grim aspen
unless i don't remember properly
frosty gale
so can i theoretically have a button for a user to watch an ad to get a reward?
i think discord considers this okay as long as youre not showing the ads without consent and on their platform
but you should ask
spark flint
Well this was serious violation and privacy issue
oak cliff
Making exceptions to make money 💰
frosty gale
a few bots got banned personally by the dev team manager or whoever that is for advertising on discord lol
because people kept complaining
hushed robin
also i can't even cus i'm sadly banned from the discord developers server
i wish there was a way to appeal
frosty gale
well didnt get banned they just had their verification taken away
grim aspen
lmao battleless banned from discord devs
hushed robin
i sent too many emojis and automod banned me 😭
grim aspen
imagine
earnest phoenix
Time to make a Discord bot that works like those fake generator websites that ask you to complete multiple surveys to earn something, and then not give them anything after
frosty gale
also i can't even cus i'm sadly banned from the discord developers server
what did you even do 😭
lyric mountain
battle basically tried to act like he does here
hushed robin
i sent too many emojis and automod banned me 😭
^
oak cliff
Lmao
lyric mountain
which is "no" or "why" or "😐"
frosty gale
now you need to get banned from discord itself
lyric mountain
except ddevs is no topgg
grim aspen
Time to make a Discord bot that works like those fake generator websites that as...
funny how those work, usually free giveaway sites that uses surveys actually sell information
lyric mountain
am i not allowed to say those words
not as a response to every other message
hushed robin
i didn't
i was just sending emojis to express my emotions
and kept forgetting automod deletes them
lyric mountain
earnest phoenix
funny how those work, usually free giveaway sites that uses surveys actually sel...
Yeah, though I remember that one of my friends found one of those fake generator websites that... actually worked, first ever time we saw something like that work
hushed robin
yeah I asked why because it's a valid question
they for some reason said emojis will not be allowed in hyperlinks
so i wanted to know why
spark flint
i sent too many emojis and automod banned me 😭
I actually said this to a ddevs and DJS mod and they said lol
lyric mountain
yeah I asked why because it's a valid question
not when you start talking like this
hushed robin
not when you start talking like this
bro i'm simply conversating with a user
it did affect my bot a lot
lyric mountain
I can see why they severely limited hyperlinks, the possibilities of scam are endless
hushed robin
will look cluttered and more ugly
hushed robin
or use buttons
those will look odd
grim aspen
for me i agree with kuu and hyperlinks, i can mask a scam link in a hyperlink easily
hushed robin
let me show you my bot
theres really no good way to do this without hyperlinks
without it looking weird
lyric mountain
it's not like ur bot will die with the changes
hushed robin
maybe they changed their mind
lyric mountain
they likely didn't push the changes yet
or applied only to user hyperlinks
as those are the most likely to be scams
spark flint
it passes user session because it uses oauth
hushed robin
and add text input buttons
this is also a much needed component
sometimes modals are too overkill for a simple input
frosty gale
discord for some reason hates text based inputs
theyre really hesitent on adding them even tho literally everyone wnats them
took a while to add modal text input
earnest phoenix
Gonna take Discord years to implement the remaining stuff for interactions, like date picker type, variadic arguments, arguments that can be used multiple times, more interactions for modals, etc etc
Just like usual
frosty gale
discord really turned to focusing on monetizing the platform
it is a business at the end of the day but at least make it less obvious
i still remember their humble days
earnest phoenix
They made super reactions instead, who the hell asked for them!?
frosty gale
they are the most useless thing ever
they dont fit the platform
what are they gonna add next? gifting people with discord tokens like tiktok live?
and reddit?
spark flint
yes
hushed robin
They made super reactions instead, who the hell asked for them!?
not a single soul
spark flint
they are adding some new thing
hushed robin
literally
spark flint
lemme grab what its called rq
frosty gale
theyre even jumping on the ai bandwagon with their clyde ai or whatever
hushed robin
did reddit end up changing the pricing of the API
spark flint
no
frosty gale
no theyre still sticking to it
hushed robin
lol
spark flint
but they got hacked
hushed robin
💀
frosty gale
imagine discord makes the api paid
spark flint
and are being held for 4.5 million and the data revert
hushed robin
thats crazy
sharp geyser
imagine discord makes the api paid
That would be heaven
frosty gale
honestly wouldnt be surprised if discord eventually starts asking very large bots to start paying for api access
because theyre very profitable
most of them anyways
and discord receives little to nothing in return for all the traffic the bot uses
spark flint
and discord receives little to nothing in return for all the traffic the bot use...
they do now
they are adding premium through Discord
frosty gale
oh right they did
hushed robin
and discord receives little to nothing in return for all the traffic the bot use...
they do
spark flint
so either guilds or users can be premium
frosty gale
are they forcing bots to use that instead of their website?
spark flint
they would make like 5% profit per subscription, imagine how big bots are
lyric mountain
isn't premium nitro already?
sharp geyser
I think its optional
spark flint
no they are just giving access to large bots
spark flint
isn't premium nitro already?
this would be another endpoint
so not to be mixed with nitro
lyric mountain
they're adding turbo then
frosty gale
theyll prob start forcing premium stuff to be done on their paltform
spark flint
probably
look at how much dyno and mee6 and bloxlink etc make
now imagine 5% which discord is missing out on 
frosty gale
but thats fair because not all large bots are very profitable giants
spark flint
makes you wonder why only the large bots were given access
frosty gale
some just want to provide a service and have enough to keep running
sharp geyser
dyno mee6 and bloxlink make way more then to keep it running
frosty gale
well yeah not those bots
maiden gazelle
when you have array of servers
```js
for (const server of servers) {
...
}
`...
it is saying the interaction did not respond without an error
const Discord = require('discord.js')
const { Database } = require("quickmongo");
const db = new Database('sexy mongo url');
module.exports = {
name: 'bump',
description: 'bump the server',
category: 'bumpsystem',
run: async(interaction, bot, args) => {
await db.connect()
const servers = await db.get(`advertisement`);
if (!servers) return;
for (const server of Object.values(servers)) {
const guild = bot.guilds.cache.get(server);
if (!guild) return;
const channel = guild.channels.cache.get(server.channel);
if (!channel) return;
const data = await db.get(`advertisement-${server.guild}`);
const description = data.description;
const invite = data.invite;
await db.push(`bumps`, {
channel: `${interaction.channel.id}`,
time: `${Date.now()}`,
guild: `${interaction.guild.id}`,
user: `${interaction.user.id}`
});
const embed = new Discord.EmbedBuilder()
.setTitle(`${interaction.guild.name}`)
.setThumbnail(interaction.guild.iconURL())
.setDescription(`**Description:** ${description}
**Members:** ${interaction.guild.memberCount}
**Invite:** https://discord.gg/${data.invite}`)
.setColor("#B468FF")
await channel.send({ embeds: [embed] })
}
await interaction.reply({ content: "Success!" })
}
}
majority of the large bots out there that are decent make way more than to keep afloat
spark flint
it is saying the interaction did not respond without an error
```js
const Disco...
you should defer the interaction
sharp geyser
Largely due to donations or premium features
maiden gazelle
you should defer the interaction
okay
hushed robin
also
i assume server is not a server id
so you can't do const guild = bot.guilds.cache.get(server);
what does server actually return?
hushed robin
if it only returns the guild how are you doing server.channel
server is not a guild id
earnest phoenix
did reddit end up changing the pricing of the API
Look at what they said to the r/programmarhumor mods
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505003632308125696/1120458020313378979/image.png
earnest phoenix
Though they do have a free tier
https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309
hushed robin
Look at what they said to the r/programmarhumor mods
https://media.discordapp.n...
what happens if they decline to reopening
earnest phoenix
what happens if they decline to reopening
The current mods get removed and are replaced by ones chosen by Reddit themselves
hushed robin
yikes
reddit really not letting these guys get to them
lmao
luckily i don't really use reddit so i could care less what happens to it
it's fun to watch this undergo
earnest phoenix
I don't really use Reddit either, though I've stumbled upon multiple helpful posts that are now in private subreddits
lyric mountain
The current mods get removed and are replaced by ones chosen by Reddit themselve...
did u see what they're doing now?
hushed robin
yeah I sometimes find some answers to my issues on reddit
lyric mountain
some subs agreed to reopen but now are only posting shit
earnest phoenix
Yeah
maiden gazelle
i assume server is not a server id
how would you do it
hushed robin
how would you do it
wym
maiden gazelle
how would you check if servers have it enabled
hushed robin
how would you check if servers have it enabled
idk how your database is setup?
if only servers with it enabled are what you get
const servers = await db.get(`advertisement`);
then just loop through it and send the messages
also there's really no need to get the server from the cache
you can just get the channel
maiden gazelle
yea idk how i can loop through it
deft wolf
I'm always using for let loop
hushed robin
yea idk how i can loop through it
i mean you are already i think?
deft wolf
I don't know, forEach is kinda tricky for me
hushed robin
i can't really help because i don't know what server is in the loop
that's why i asked you to log it
maiden gazelle
i can't really help because i don't know what server is in the loop
my own server and my test server
maiden gazelle
channel is that it would send the add to a specific channel in the server
hushed robin
channel is that it would send the add to a specific channel in the server
yes but a guild object wouldn't have that property
can you tell me what it is
what is inside it
maiden gazelle
you okay if i send a sourcebin link of how i set it up
hushed robin
well
solemn latch
I dont think thats needed
hushed robin
or you can just console.log(server) and send what it returns
maiden gazelle
okay
hushed robin
(inside the loop)
solemn latch
this is whats set, right?
await db.push(`bumps`, {
channel: `${interaction.channel.id}`,
time: `${Date.now()}`,
guild: `${interaction.guild.id}`,
user: `${interaction.user.id}`
});
no wait 👀 thats for bumps
kek
I'm paying attention
hushed robin
😵💫
maiden gazelle
this is whats set, right?
```js
await db.push(`bumps`, {
channel:...
this is
maiden gazelle
its only sending the ad in the server where it has been interacted
hushed robin
also, what's the point of this? you should be able to access all that with server.description and server.invite
hushed robin
this is
and .guild isn't even a property on server, because you're not setting it here
maiden gazelle
and .guild isn't even a property on server, because you're not setting it here
it should be interaction.guild.id i think
hushed robin
🫠
hushed robin
lmao
i don't think connecting to the db everytime the command is ran is good
you should connect once and export then import it
solemn latch
you can just also connect outside the export realistically
const db = new Database('sexy mongo url');
await db.connect();
module.exports = {
...
You could then check if it is connected before allowing the command to run.
Well you might be able to do that, quickmongo only has half their documentation working so who really knows.
hushed robin
oh wait, i think i misunderstood what you're trying to do
solemn latch
But yeah, passing it between files is better ^-^
grim aspen
you can just also connect outside the export realistically
```js
const db = new...
'sexy mongo url'
solemn latch
it is saying the interaction did not respond without an error
```js
const Disco...
Yeah, its in the original code ^_^
hushed robin
sexy mongo url 🥵
quartz kindle
lies, mongo cant be sexy
lyric mountain
damn mongoose killed python
earnest phoenix
PostgreSQL best 🗣️💯🔥
hushed robin
PostgreSQL best 🗣️💯🔥
who is faster SQLite or PostgreSQL?
frosty gale
sqlite by a long shot
well not a long shot
but sqlites more designed for smaller local applications
for bigger projects you should use a server db like postgressy
earnest phoenix
who is faster SQLite or PostgreSQL?
PostgreSQL is generally faster than SQLite
frosty gale
i will benchmark
hushed robin
PostgreSQL is generally faster than SQLite
cap
earnest phoenix
There's a good reason why, PostgreSQL is packed to the brim with very useful features and improved capabilities which the database itself uses as well
Though this might've changed, it's been a long time since I've benchmarked them
Although when you use either you shouldn't care about performance because both of them are incredibly fast, you should care about other factors like customizability, features, ease of use, and whatnot
lyric mountain
sqlite is faster but is less efficient than postgresql
by "performant" I'm talking about rows/s rate
that's cuz sqlite is practically direct access to the database, while postgresql has more layers to it, but that's also the bane of sqlite as it can only have 1 write operation at any time
earnest phoenix
Seems like Twilio did some benchmarks
https://www.twilio.com/blog/sqlite-postgresql-complicated
hushed robin
Although when you use either you shouldn't care about performance because both o...
SQLite is much easier to use than postresql
earnest phoenix
Easier but much less efficient
hushed robin
It’s very efficient
I’ve been using it for all my projects and it works wonderfully
quartz kindle
Seems like Twilio did some benchmarks
https://www.twilio.com/blog/sqlite-postgre...
people never mention sqlite's WAL mode and turning synchronous writes off when benchmarking, nor do they mention enabling mmap
plus this benchmark uses an ORM :puke:
earnest phoenix
SQLite can only have a single writer thread per operation, it works well for small projects, but as your project gets bigger that's where it falls
PostgreSQL is basically the God of efficiency in the world of databases, and scalability while also being incredibly fast
lyric mountain
also is sqlite really easier?
like, once u have both set up they're mostly the same
quartz kindle
also people never factor in sqlite's unfair advantage of not having a network stack
lyric mountain
except postgres adds a bunch of (good) stuff on top of the basic sql
quartz kindle
benchmarking sqlite against other dbs is not a simple thing, its very hard to produce a fair comparison
earnest phoenix
True
hushed robin
also is sqlite really easier?
yeah it is
I have no idea how to setup a postresql database
but I can easily setup a SQLite one
quartz kindle
also is sqlite really easier?
ita easier in the sense that it doeant require any setup, while pg must be separately jnstalled and managed
hushed robin
SQLite can only have a single writer thread per operation, it works well for sma...
my SQLite database is big and works really well
lyric mountain
I have no idea how to setup a postresql database
but then it's not the database that's easier, it's the setup
hushed robin
but then it's not the database that's easier, it's the setup
that’s part of the experience
quartz kindle
my SQLite database is big and works really well
it doesnt really matter how big it is
what matters for dbs is how often data is written and accessed
sqlite will never beat pgsql if you have millions of operations per minute
hushed robin
my data is written a lot
hushed robin
sqlite will never beat pgsql if you have millions of operations per minute
who has millions per minute
hushed robin
🤨
quartz kindle
banks
earnest phoenix
who has millions per minute
The platform you're sending your messages on right now
lyric mountain
who has millions per minute
per minute? easily my bot
lyric mountain
1 million per minute is measly 16k ops per second
hushed robin
unless it’s mee6s size
lyric mountain
nope
hushed robin
tell me how your bot is making millions of operations a minute
lyric mountain
mee6 would be in billions per minute
hushed robin
your bot is relatively small
lyric mountain
tell me how your bot is making millions of operations a minute
xp system alone reaches that
hushed robin
I doubt the number is that large
lyric mountain
large? lmao
1 million per second is large, but per minute is just regular database usage
quartz kindle
anyway, its a matter of knowing the right tool for the job
lyric mountain
nah
to give you a sense of scale, let's say we have 100 users across 10 servers, that's 1000 users
quartz kindle
sqlite is pretty much the best thing you can get, up to a certain limit, beyond that you have no choice
lyric mountain
let's say all are sending 1 message per second
that's 1000 msgs/s
so in my case 1000 xp increases per second
which is 60k operations per minute
quartz kindle
of course you have caching and batching, right? :^)
lyric mountain
yep, the lib I use handles that
quartz kindle
gotta love eventual consistency
lyric mountain
plus postgres also has a cache layer
hushed robin
which is 60k operations per minute
that’s not millions a minute
lyric mountain
that’s not millions a minute
that's only 100 users on 10 servers
my bot is in 7792 servers
hushed robin
i am not a Spanish speaker
lyric mountain
not discord users mind you, users registered on the database
quartz kindle
lmao
lyric mountain
i am not a Spanish speaker
top is servers, bottom is users
lyric mountain
they are removed from the database after some time
also if 1% of those (18.536 users) sent 1 message per second, which is lowballing, that's already over a million per minute (16.666... msgs/s)
quartz kindle
my bot was getting arround 200 messages per second at 9k servers, if i remember correctlt
spark flint
mine gets around 50-75 per second at 1.87k servers
and it scans each one using regex
quartz kindle
lmao
hushed robin
so in conclusion that’s not even near millions
spark flint
and has to check scam links, invite links etc for each one
hushed robin
🤨
hushed robin
and has to check scam links, invite links etc for each one
why
discord has auto mod now
lyric mountain
so in conclusion that’s not even near millions
just take the L buddy, u have a shit sense of scale and we know it
spark flint
lol
hushed robin
its not that effective
it has regex tho
spark flint
yes and
i can't constantly update every server for every scam domain or server invite
hushed robin
how much more effective can it get
spark flint
the bot has stopped 50k scams in the last year
quartz kindle
i remember skmeone here was getting 500+ messages per second on a 2k bot or something, bexause of a handful of very large guilds
hushed robin
just take the L buddy, u have a shit sense of scale and we know it
no you have no statistics to back up these claims
lyric mountain
no you have no statistics to back up these claims
I don't log every single transaction yeah, that'd be stupid
sounds like something you'd do
lyric mountain
well, told ya it's something you'd do
lyric mountain
until you notice that logging every transactions doubles the amount of transactions
hushed robin
until you notice that logging every transactions doubles the amount of transacti...
no?
lyric mountain
it does tho
hushed robin
how
lyric mountain
imagine you have a pen and 2 papers
for every line u write in one paper, u also write in the other paper "I wrote a line"
so u always have to write 2 lines cuz of that
hushed robin
no I don’t do that
lyric mountain
then ur not logging
hushed robin
It’s on a discord message that I update every 25 transactions
lyric mountain
It’s on a discord message that I update every 25 transactions
...that's worse than I expected honestly, but that's not logging transactions either
what if u wanted to know how many trans u made between hours X and Y?
u cant cuz u only have a single number
hushed robin
average is ok
slender wagon
Battleless seems like a good guy until you scroll up
pale vessel
explain
hushed robin
Battleless seems like a good guy until you scroll up
I am a good guy
hushed robin
does anyone know where I can find a large amount of 5 letter words
solemn latch
Do you just want all 5 letter words?
https://github.com/dwyl/english-words/blob/master/words_dictionary.json
Could just download this, and filter it for all 5 letter words.
solemn latch
the crazy part is its only 6.5mb for the entire file
pale vessel
bro is creating the next wordle
hushed robin
bro is creating the next wordle
yea i am
tbh it’s impressive how i can remember 479k words
pale vessel
doesn't matter on JS
for me at least I use double quotes for everything except if the string has a double quote in it (then I'd use single quote since I hate escaping them)
hushed robin
for me at least I use double quotes for everything except if the string has a do...
is this the proper way
hushed robin
ok
lament rock
fuck it we template literal everything
hushed robin
fuck it we template literal everything
are you a pro coder?
lament rock
I do code professionally, but am I a professional at code? To be debated
hushed robin
I do code professionally, but am I a professional at code? To be debated
I just saw your bots code
you are indeed a pro coder
pale vessel
@proven lantern have you heard of this? it seems convenient for your use case https://youtu.be/JY_d0vf-rfw
proven lantern
<@92436985859293184> have you heard of this? it seems convenient for your use ca...
that's pretty similar to what i'm using now i think, but it bootstraps a lot of stuff i did manually
pale vessel
it has a dev command that runs everything locally though, it seems like
are those you doing some janky workaround for that?
especially for the interaction handling, I dunno
proven lantern
yeah, i have a fancy workaround to get it working on localhost
but it's just because discord wont wait
i use localstack to emulate the dynamodb tables locally
slender wagon
Decoded APNG image: 3840 x 3840, 107 frames
Processed frame 1/107
[Function: Uint8ClampedArray]
Processed frame 1/107
holly shit this is taking foreverrr
umm what could be a solution to this
quartz kindle
```
Decoded APNG image: 3840 x 3840, 107 frames
Processed frame 1/107
[Function:...
well its a big fucking image
thats fucking 59mb per frame lmao
quartz kindle
ye, but once uncompressed it inflates like crazy
raw image bytes are basically 4 bytes per pixel for RGBA
3840 x 3840 x 4 = nearly 59 million
how much ram is your process using while processing those frames?
slender wagon
look man i am not home i am in a shitty device atm lmfao
this is without running the program
would another programing language like rust handle this better?
quartz kindle
lmao
quartz kindle
would another programing language like rust handle this better?
possibly, but thats just the cost of working with raw images
quartz kindle
a compiled language would probably be able to process them faster, but it will still use a lot of memory
slender wagon
i plan into turning this into a web function
via the websocket i can let the user know of the progress
quartz kindle
cant you downscale the images?
slender wagon
cant you downscale the images?
the thing is i expect all kinds of large images and i want the watermark to be able to take any size
quartz kindle
well thats not a good idea since it introduces a resource starvation vulnerability
slender wagon
ik but only 1 person is going to use it eitherway
quartz kindle
not a problem as long as you can handle it
slender wagon
well thats not a good idea since it introduces a resource starvation vulnerabili...
would getting the image size and chopping the apng the right size for the input image make a difference
frosty gale
look man i am not home i am in a shitty device atm lmfao
what do you mean your laptop doesn't have 32gb of ram?
slender wagon
i don't think it will unless i do it before taking the frames
slender wagon
what do you mean your laptop doesn't have 32gb of ram?
stop flexing on me smh
also wifi
suckk ittt
frosty gale
slender wagon
frosty gale
suckk ittt
I have ethernet too