Primitive conversion happens in operations where the primitive value of something is needed, an example is arithmetic operations
#development
earnest phoenix
solemn latch
class Test {
wee: string;
constructor() {
this.wee = 'Woo';
}
toString() {
return 'hi!';
}
}
console.log(test.valueOf(), test.toString()); // Test { wee: 'Woo' } hi!
is what happens,
Re-reading
This method is called in priority by numeric conversion and primitive conversion, but string conversion calls toString() in priority, and toString() is very likely to return a string value (even for the Object.prototype.toString() base implementation), so valueOf() is usually not called in this case.
It seems like you're right, toString is a prority.
I think the first line confused me 👀
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Object/valueOf
earnest phoenix
solemn latch
Yeah, I'll look over it. thank you
earnest phoenix
You're welcome
solemn latch
If anyone comes across this conversation in the future. this is neat ^_^
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Symbol/toPrimitive
javascript
lyric mountain
@wheat mesa do u know how vectors work?
wheat mesa
Yeah
lyric mountain
I have absolutely no idea how to work with them
wheat mesa
Well, in what sense?
wheat mesa
Vectors as in the list, or vectors as in the math vectors
lyric mountain
in math context
wheat mesa
Yeah
lyric mountain
like, I'm making a script for a game I play, I'm trying to figure out how to get the relative angle of block X with block Y
lyric mountain
ok, so, got the diagram
wheat mesa
oh boy 3d
lyric mountain
this is the WorldMatrix that each block has
so, first of all how tf do I even read this 
wheat mesa
ummmmmm
I haven't done much matrix stuff
But your goal is to get the angle between two blocks based on their xyz positions, right?
lyric mountain
not really
I'll paint it, just a sec
the green square is the reference block (imagine it's facing forward), the yellow is the block I'm trying to find the angle of (denoted by x - it's facing the red line direction)
wheat mesa
ohhh
lyric mountain
the hardest thing is that the only thing I'm given is the WorldMatrix of both
there's no GetAngle or anything
wheat mesa
yeah this is difficult
lyric mountain
this is what I'm making (a sonar)
the whole thing does work, all I need now is the damn angle
wheat mesa
So you would still be using atan2(dy/dx) somewhere, but you have to find dx for this scenario
hmmmmm
lyric mountain
the worst part is that they don't usually teach vector/matrix operations at all around here
at most we scratched what they are and what they look like
quartz kindle
so you want the angle between two vectors, right?
wheat mesa
Yeah I'm not incredibly familiar with matrices, since I haven't done those in a while, but I am decent with vectors
lyric mountain
well, yes, I just don't know how to extract the angle vector from that matrix
once I have the vector it's fairly simple to transform into degrees
wheat mesa
Cast a unit vector facing from that angle out, and one towards your reference block, then atan2(dy/dx)
lemme illustrate
wheat mesa
As for how to do this with the matrices, I'm not sure
And then for it to be programatically correct (and not have undefined values at 90 degrees), you'd use Math.atan2()
And those vectors are just normalized unit vectors
lyric mountain
this is what I managed to get (current code) by diving through forums
wheat mesa
<cos(angle), sin(angle)>
lyric mountain
but I'm not sure GetOrientation().Down is what I think it is
also, GetOrientation() is a matrix too
wheat mesa
Ah this is C# as well, nice
lyric mountain
yep
wheat mesa
I haven't done much with 3d vectors unfortunately
I'll get back to you after I finish my first linear algebra class 😉
lyric mountain
seriously considering taking a few linear algebra courses
wheat mesa
I might be able to help later, I'm trying to learn some 3d opengl which is gonna require that I relearn matrices
spark flint
spark flint
const parse = require('parse-duration')
const length = parse(length, "ms")```honestly, you'd likely love space engineers
spark flint
just to save you coming back asking for help 
lyric mountain
the scripting api math heavy af, and is c#
hushed robin
bruh
spark flint
wtf luca
quartz kindle
wait you are not battleless anymore?
hushed robin
i am
wheat mesa
the scripting api math heavy af, and is c#
I approve
hushed robin
can a mod make my username battleless
lyric mountain
you are the battle now
after all the battle he had in this server alone, he had to remove "less" at some point
spark flint
but i changed it to battle
taken
wheat mesa
This summer I'm trying to learn a lot about that sort of stuff
wheat mesa
When do we get to change our names, is that coming soon to older accounts
quartz kindle
lmao
lyric mountain
there were psychos that made a fuckin gameboy emulator in that shit
wheat mesa
I'm mostly going to spend this summer learning some linear algebra, doing 3d opengl, and learning more about compilers
I'm going to do an accelerated masters degree so I gotta find an area I want to specialize in 😭
lyric mountain
well, what about computer engineering?
hushed robin
When do we get to change our names, is that coming soon to older accounts
nitro old accounts then old accounts
lyric mountain
you dive into low level stuff all the time
wheat mesa
Eh, engineering isn't really my thing. I want to do software specifically, so there's a few areas within my CS degree I can specialize in
(I guess it's a form of engineering, but you know what I meant)
wheat mesa
Data Sciences Track
Cyber Security Track
Intelligent Systems Track
Interactive Computing Track
Networks and Telecommunications Track
Systems Track
Traditional Computer Science Track
These are the options I have to choose from for a CS masters
drifting widget
How do I reload my bot and I can't find the reload button?
wheat mesa
lol
hushed robin
!reload bot
lyric mountain
How do I reload my bot and I can't find the reload button?
reload the bot or the bot page?
hushed robin
uh
wheat mesa
I might do the traditional CS track
wheat mesa
hushed robin
why is it different icon now
drifting widget
reload the bot or the bot page?
The bot image on top.gg
quartz kindle
what happened to luca
he evolved into a pokeluca
wheat mesa
looks like it's a pretty robust option for going into something I'd like to do
hushed robin
he evolved into a pokeluca
🧐
lyric mountain
The bot image on top.gg
bot page -> reload -> edit -> save
drifting widget
bot page -> reload -> edit -> save
Thx 🤝
quartz kindle
@lyric mountain @wheat mesa i literally fell asleep while watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRaq4aYPzCc
lyric mountain
wait what tf
the 0.999... = 1 I already knew, but that multiplication thing is wtf
hushed robin
how do i get a member from a guild in discord.js
deft wolf
Depends
hushed robin
on what
deft wolf
By his id or his name?
hushed robin
By his id or his name?
id
deft wolf
guild.members.fetch("memberid") should work
digital swan
try guild.members.fetch
hushed robin
why do i need to fetch
deft wolf
Maybe member is not in cache
hushed robin
i have guild members intent
earnest phoenix
this doesnt work for some reason
what you wanna make
deft wolf
Guilds and channels should always work with cache.get but members you need to cache yourself
earnest phoenix
this doesnt work for some reason
in config what are you storing ?
hushed robin
in config what are you storing ?
stop
hushed robin
that has nothing to do with it 🫥
deft wolf
Also fetch gonna put member into cache so next time it's not gonna fetch him from api
digital swan
xoxo
hushed robin
use await if your fetching
bro
i know that
i am not stupid
why does everyone think i'm stupid
deft wolf
quartz kindle
if everywhere you go the same thing happens over and over again, maybe you are the source :^)
hushed robin
if everywhere you go the same thing happens over and over again, maybe you are t...
what
explain in simpler terms
earnest phoenix
if everywhere you go the same thing happens over and over again, maybe you are t...
🦅 i agree
still storm
why doesnt my custom html want to work on topgg description
lyric mountain
why doesnt my custom html want to work on topgg description
are u declaring the full html structure?
still storm
are u declaring the full html structure?
should i?
lyric mountain
like <html>, <head> and <body>?
still storm
only <style>
lyric mountain
try applying the styles directly on the browser
see if it works as you expect it to
still storm
aint gonna work cause of what i have
lyric mountain
then that's the reason it's not working
lyric mountain
if the styles work in the browser, they work in the long description
same for the opposite
paste the styles block in the page's head, see if it applies
if you're using any js, it wont work
lyric mountain
are u importing the css?
still storm
just
<style>
css stuff
</style>
html stuff
yes, but did u write the css or are you importing from somewhere else?
lyric mountain
copy the styles block, press F12 and paste in the page's head
don't use a separate file for that
lyric mountain
sigh
look, go to your long description, copy <style> AND EVERYTHING INSIDE IT </style>
press F12 IN THE SAME PAGE, go to elements, click on <head> and press ctrl + v
see if the styles work on the page
if they don't, then your css is wrong
still storm
i did that and it broke topgg
lyric mountain
then u pasted in the wrong place
still storm
and its not my css fault cause it works in the browser
still storm
then u pasted in the wrong place
i did what u told
lyric mountain
and its not my css fault cause it works in the browser
"works in the browser" is not a validation of your css
it's hard to give u any help without seeing the css
still storm
can you take a look at the code yourself
still storm
okay
the !important tag is cuz of my experience with my other topgg custom html changes
i see the animation doesnt work unless !important is removed from keyframes, but idc about it rn, i need to fix the boxes
lyric mountain
hm, aside from the !important abuse, I don't see anything out of normal
does at least the background color chance work?
nvm, rewatched ur video, it does
lyric mountain
try applying those styles to some existing topgg elements
like, change .boxes to body, see if it applies that block
if it does, then topgg doesn't support custom classes
surreal sage
try {
if (value) return res.writeHead(400), res.end()
} catch (err)
res.writeHead(500)
} finally {
res.end()
}``` Would the `res.end()` still be called if value were to be truthy?
lyric mountain
```js
try {
if (value) return res.writeHead(400), res.end()
} catch (err)
re...
huh, js can return multiple values?
or is that a typo?
quartz kindle
huh, js can return multiple values?
it will just return the last thing
lyric mountain
return a, b would return b?
quartz kindle
ye
lyric mountain
...ok, this is the part where you try to justify their design choices
quartz kindle
its a pretty dumb thing but you can use it to do stuff like return dosomething(), result
lyric mountain
so it's just a one-liner for ```js
dosomething()
return result
that smells like 2 weeks of debugging to find
quartz kindle
expecto D
wheat mesa
yeah that seems like a terrible idea to use
surreal sage
welcome to js 🔥
surreal sage
good but also shit
lyric mountain
are u still one-lining everything?
wheat mesa
that's the type of shit that's on the java certification exam I had to take but with java so it's 10x more obscure and more unintuitive
but hey, I passed, so worth it
quartz kindle
js is like building in a plot of land without fences, you gotta know the limits yourself to avoid making dumb mistakes
but as long as you know them, everything is fine
also, beyond the fences is the farlands from minecraft
:^)
lyric mountain
I miss farlands
I wonder if there's a mod that makes the entire map generate like farlands
it's fun to play in a wacky terrain
btw @wheat mesa, gave up on figuring out how to work with matrices for now, resorted to a rotor (which has GetAngle)
wheat mesa
👍
lyric mountain
now I need to calculate how fast the rotor has to rotate to complete 1 pixel-degree within N ticks
the pixel-degree is dependant on the current resolution
wheat mesa
niceeee
lyric mountain
but that's for tomorrow, enough math for one day
wheat mesa
I'm so glad I'm done with that java certification exam
my god
the questions are so cancerous
wheat mesa
Some of the questions aren't even hard, you just wouldn't know them unless you've done specifically that thing before
ex:
Thankfully I knew this one, but only because I've gone through hell with these shitty syntax rules for enums
another one
surreal sage
wheat mesa
lol
surreal sage
i hate this.
wheat mesa
so specific
lyric mountain
only B is illegal no?
surreal sage
beautifier
wheat mesa
it was kind of funny taking the exam, apparently you're put into a zoom call with a proctor and like 15 other people
but those 15 people are from all around the US
(and other countries I'm sure)
so I'd see some dude in his 40s taking the exam in some random place while taking the exam
idk why, it was just funny
lyric mountain
honestly, those exams are meaningless in measuring knowledge
lyric mountain
like, why tf do u need to know which enum syntax is valid? the ide is there for exactly that
"but I code in notepad" there's the damn compiler then
wheat mesa
One of the kids that failed has developed an app that helps diagnose parkinson's disease with machine learning, she made a legit research project
She made a 64.3%
The passing score was 65%
It was tragic
lyric mountain
those exams usually have a ton of false-positives
wheat mesa
Dude some of the questions were literally wrong
wheat mesa
Like, not even like a "I don't know this obscure feature so it's probably wrong" type wrong, but a question with literally no correct answers was on there
lyric mountain
like, people who code for years don't give a damn about such details, they simply write their mind and let the ide fill the gaps
wheat mesa
Asked something about What outputs "hello: world!" but there was absolutely no colon anywhere
I passed with a 75%
Super happy about that
lyric mountain
lul
wheat mesa
Most of the stuff I got wrong was on exceptions, I always forget the hierarchy and shit
But it doesn't matter
lyric mountain
a proper test would be to ask yall to do X and see which ones did it better (or did at all)
wheat mesa
true
It's not easy to accurately measure that though, nor is it easy to measure that en masse
They're just looking for an easy metric
Aka multiple choice questions
Damn dangling pointers, forgot I have to watch out for UB
That doesn't work, but this does
agh
earnest phoenix
That doesn't work, but this does
Well, that's kinda obvious because shaderCode is a constant and you're reassigning it in the the code above that
quartz kindle
Well, that's kinda obvious because `shaderCode` is a constant and you're reassig...
the second code does not count as reasignment?
shaderCode = raw.c_str();
earnest phoenix
Oh nevermind it seems like I read it wrong, they're reassigning the pointer address, not the value
quartz kindle
Oh nevermind it seems like I read it wrong, they're reassigning the pointer addr...
so why does the second code work but not the first one?
im as confused as waffle here
earnest phoenix
It works just fine for me, I'm not sure what issue they're running into
@wheat mesa mind telling us what issue you're running into with the first one?
Ah I just tried with the try..catch blocks and that's the issue, they're reassigning the address the shaderCode pointer points to in the try block, but once the try block is over the value is destroyed, hence the address points to nothing outside of that try block
@quartz kindle ^
quartz kindle
ah so the block scope of the try catch ends the life cycle of the variable?
earnest phoenix
Correct
quartz kindle
yeah i see it now, the char* is owned by the std::string, so std::string must exist outside of the block, for the char* to exist
unless you copy it to a new address
earnest phoenix
Yep
quartz kindle
can you change the ownership of a char*?
like remove it from an std::string
without copy
so that when the string is destroyed, the char* is not affected
earnest phoenix
That's not possible without a copy
quartz kindle
ye i figured, i tried doing this exact thing a couple years ago in a nodejs native addon
trying to store a js buffer on the c++ side
earnest phoenix
Though you can also move the value (std::move) to prevent a copy
quartz kindle
hmm i might give it a try later
what i was trying to do was store js data on the c++ side without copy
since napi supports buffer transfers without copy
but i could only get it to work by retaining the entire buffer object structure
when i only wanted the bytes it held
earnest phoenix
...ok, this is the part where you try to justify their design choices
Also this has nothing to do with JavaScript alone, many programming languages allow this including C/C++
It's the comma operator (,) which allows for operations to be done in a compact sequence
quartz kindle
It's the comma operator (`,`) which allows for operations to be done in a compac...
var a = 1, a = a + 1, a = a + 1, a = a + 1
:^)
earnest phoenix
Most readable 🔥💯
quartz kindle
honestly i really dislike such things, id rather do ```js
let a = 1;
let b = 2;
let c = 3;
than ```js
let a = 1,
b = 2,
c = 3;
Same, though the second way is preferred when there are lots of variables with the same type, or if there are a few but it's pretty readable and not bugprone
cinder patio
for (let i=1; i < 4; i++) {
globalThis[String.fromCharCode(96 + i)] = i;
}
imo the most readable method
earnest phoenix
lyric mountain
It's the comma operator (`,`) which allows for operations to be done in a compac...
ik it for variable declaration, but allowing it for return is...dirty
earnest phoenix
Many programming languages also allow that
It's basically an expression, evaluated then passed to return
lyric mountain
it's the type of thing you'd spend way too long finding the issue
akin to the braceless if/while/for clause
earnest phoenix
In my opinion it doesn't really change anything in case of debugging, linters or debuggers will also tell you the issue regardless, but yeah that pattern should be avoided as much as possible
quartz kindle
```js
for (let i=1; i < 4; i++) {
globalThis[String.fromCharCode(96 + i)] = i;...
^ this guy should be avoided as much as possible
jesus christ
lmao
winged linden
hi i am getting this although the command is working normally
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 11:34:07]
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] at async CommandInteraction.deferReply (/workspace/node_modules/discord.js/src/structures/interfaces/InteractionResponses.js:57:5)
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] at async Object.run (/workspace/src/commands/slash/tools/rarity.js:29:7) {
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] method: 'post',
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] path: '/interactions/1115980876489171046/aW50ZXJhY3Rpb246MTExNTk4MDg3NjQ4OTE3MTA0NjpxMTROT2sxSERUUFJlNzF5Z1VSMldiaUtKV1ZBQkFCbnFIVFFIb2pKYzlhd0RZQzVMWnZ5VWJYYzBjM0dKSWRoaDU5OUY3Y0JuNkt2SjJwbjMxNEU4TzBxc05nMGlmUzljeHhDWGR1ZEFIZXVweXhYR2hIWDBKakRlZmJhWGpIYg/callback',
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] code: 10062,
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] httpStatus: 404,
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] requestData: { json: [Object], files: [] }
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] }
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] }
[trigon-backend] [2023-06-07 12:29:35] reason: Unknown interaction```
keep in mind, the bot is ran on digital ocean, does that mean it could be running multiple instances of the bot?lmao, djs giving an ssl error, thats a new one
quartz kindle
hi i am getting this although the command is working normally
```[trigon-backen...
does that happen randomly or every time?
winged linden
does that happen randomly or every time?
random i would say, last time it happened was tonight (i guess the last instances went off now and online main is live)
and now its happening again as i updated the bot, fucking hell digital ocean is annoying
any idea where i can host my bot & backend api where it doesnt keep old instances of the app?
(i know we can do it on a personal api but would mean i would have to update https certificate everywhile)
yup 2 instances are running dang digital ocean sucks ass
winged linden
anyone uses digital ocean in here?
deft wolf
Never to be honest
quartz kindle
yup 2 instances are running dang digital ocean sucks ass
i mean, having two instances running should not be their fault, you're the one who controls that
hushed robin
anyone uses digital ocean in here?
yea
winged linden
i mean, having two instances running should not be their fault, you're the one w...
there is no option to delete old instances
old instances just stop alone after a while
lyric mountain
does it use linux cli?
u could try to shutdown the instance
as if you were shutting down a pc
quartz kindle
old instances just stop alone after a while
how are you running your system?
are you using an actual vps? or some kind of app container?
earnest phoenix
are you using an actual vps? or some kind of app container?
He's using D
quartz kindle
whose D
earnest phoenix
Deez Nuts
quartz kindle
your D then
earnest phoenix
quartz kindle
ah well... i have no idea about app containers, never used them
winged linden
ah well... i have no idea about app containers, never used them
its the first time i use them as they have automated update for cerificates, well i guess i am gonna just switch back to a vps
lyric mountain
@wheat mesa @quartz kindle yep
I'll try now to auto-adjust rotor rpm based on the configured range
I'd try to allow multiple sensors, but that'd require figuring out that matrix shit
hushed robin
and how do you stop old instances?
what
wym by that
ok guys
i have a very technical question to ask soon
i will ask in a few hours
i hope you guys can help im stumbled
😮💨
quartz kindle
<@173489654144696320> <@180112943612952577> yep
dayum thats cool
winged linden
wym by that
old deployments are still running (till they automatically turn off)
lyric mountain
dayum thats cool
made it mostly because the server I play at has 3rd person disabled
so navigating with a huge-ass ship only being able to see what's in front of you is terrible
quartz kindle
its an existing game?
lyric mountain
yep, space engineers
lyric mountain
usually you'd navigate through cameras, but constantly switching between them gives motion sickness
you sadly cant link a camera to a screen
frosty gale
did chrome disable the ability to view individual cookies and values?
frosty gale
attempt to dumb it down and hide cookies id imagine
quartz kindle
did chrome disable the ability to view individual cookies and values?
what version is that? 114?
im still on 113
lyric mountain
doesnt sound very enginner-like
well, it's not very in-depth indeed, but you do have to engineer your way into space
frosty gale
i think its an update to chromium not just chrome
quartz kindle
well, it's not very in-depth indeed, but you do have to engineer your way into s...
kuuhaku can into space
frosty gale
im seeing it on other chromium browers too
dont see how chromium maintainers even allowed this 💀
lyric mountain
edge's still fine
frosty gale
i know its google people but its still kinda open source
hmm im gonna have a deeper look
brave does it now too
yeah edge is fine
gonna try chromium
lyric mountain
it's an edge case /s
frosty gale
finally microsoft has an advantage they can force down you to make you use edge instead of chrome
quartz kindle
lmao
earnest phoenix
dont see how chromium maintainers even allowed this 💀
That has nothing to do with us Chromium maintainers, that's Google's doing
You can still check the data by going to the developer console and checking the "Applications" tab
There's a "Cookies" section
frosty gale
thats confusing then because brave has this too? i wouldnt expect them to copy this since majority of users are "more technically literate" ?
but its good to see its not a chromium thing#
frosty gale
You can still check the data by going to the developer console and checking the ...
to be fair actually it's a better move
move developer stuffs to the developer console
earnest phoenix
Correct
frosty gale
most people dont really need to see content of cookies
quartz kindle
im using ungoogled chromium, still no update for me
frosty gale
i just thought they got rid of it completely
quartz kindle
lyric mountain
That has nothing to do with us Chromium maintainers, that's Google's doing
with us Chromium maintainers
ayo
how many OS projects are u into?
frosty gale
next step is becoming an employee
i wonder what its like to work at google
some people say its good some say its very stressful and pushy
quartz kindle
yeah companies this days have this "culture" crap and many other annoyances
they dont let you be yourself anymore, you have to be like them
and they give you all sorts of benefits except actual pay, because they get tax exemptions from giving people benefits
frosty gale
yeah companies this days have this "culture" crap and many other annoyances
my company has a culture of a pirate theme for some reason
the company is the pirate ship and were the "pirates"
i find it cringe but i dont say anything 😂
earnest phoenix
how many OS projects are u into?
Many major projects at this point
I'm a member of
- Node.js organization
- V8 & Chromium team
- TC39
- OpenJS Foundation
- LLVM Developer Group
- IETF Management Council
- W3C
And I maintain
- Node.js as well as it's core utilities
- V8 JavaScript engine and the Chromium web browser engine
- LLVM compiler infrastructure
- The JavaScript programming language
- IETF standards (notably the ones that make up the internet, HTTP, HTTP2, HTTPS, UDP, TCP/IP, etc etc)
- W3C internal standards as well as some standards like CSS (from CSSWG)
quartz kindle
Many major projects at this point
I'm a member of
- Node.js organization
- V8 &...
how did you even get into all of that? you just made PRs and then asked to join? or did you join by some other way?
like are you some kind of top 10 graduate from some ultra hard indian university?
frosty gale
i could not be asked lmao just being part of one big project is too much for me
quartz kindle
same lol, i dont even work on my own projects
hushed robin
Many major projects at this point
I'm a member of
- Node.js organization
- V8 &...
bro made node.js
wtf
quartz kindle
he has an IQ of 200
hushed robin
really?
wheat mesa
I want to contribute to some open source stuff, I just have absolutely no idea where to start. It feels like you need a good understanding of the codebase you’re contributing to, and I don’t know how you achieve that without actually working with that codebase for a long time
earnest phoenix
how did you even get into all of that? you just made PRs and then asked to join?...
I worked hard to climb up the ladder, contributed to many of them, dedicated most of my time to them, and finally became a member and a maintainer
I'm also an invited expert at some of them (TC39, IETF, and W3C)
quartz kindle
I want to contribute to some open source stuff, I just have absolutely no idea w...
well i kinda got to that level by working on a separate plugin, ie djs light
you can try making a plugin or extension or mod to some exiting thing, which will force you to learn the code base
and eventually you will know it well enough to suggest changes and PRs
frosty gale
yeah if you contribute enough and make high quality contributions youll probably be invited as a contributor then you can kinda network off of that with additional work
wheat mesa
I’m also 0% confident that the code I write is up to standard with what people would accept in a PR
quartz kindle
I worked hard to climb up the ladder, contributed to many of them, dedicated mos...
how many years have you been working in nodejs?
earnest phoenix
The final large thing I'll join to is the Unicode consortium, and to also maintain ICU (International Components of Unicode) and similar
I don't think I can handle more
quartz kindle
The final large thing I'll join to is the Unicode consortium, and to also mainta...
please make tzdata updatable separately
kthxbye
earnest phoenix
how many years have you been working in nodejs?
Almost 3 years now
frosty gale
that's pretty cool i wish you luck on your future journey, how do you even find the motivation though especially since you dont even get paid for oss contributions? unless you join some board or whatever but thats another thing
hard to find projects i am really 100% on and enthusiastic about to contribute on
earnest phoenix
I don't get paid to do any of this work, my only motivation is to make the world a better place, and to also make things better for everyone, that has always been my motivation
quartz kindle
hard to find projects i am really 100% on and enthusiastic about to contribute o...
yeah, especially when they are not yours, so you are not really given any credit for your work
earnest phoenix
Nothing less, nothing more
quartz kindle
at some point i was the only maintainer of a lib, so i quit it and made my own version of it
quartz kindle
I don't get paid to do any of this work, my only motivation is to make the world...
you are jesus
hushed robin
why not just ask them to make you owner
quartz kindle
god bless
hushed robin
why make new one
hushed robin
what was it
quartz kindle
sweph
wheat mesa
I’ve never made a single PR in roughly 3 years of programming
radiant kraken
The final large thing I'll join to is the Unicode consortium, and to also mainta...
but why
do you have any knowledge regarding unicode
wheat mesa
(Granted I’m not super advanced for the amount of time I’ve spent programming)
hushed robin
your very advanced waffle
quartz kindle
do you have any knowledge regarding unicode
unicode is pretty simple tho, no?
radiant kraken
simple?
hushed robin
bindings for the swiss ephemeris C library
sounds hard
wheat mesa
I could probably make PRs to Java codebases except for the fact that they all use 35 giant patterns lol
quartz kindle
i mean, its pretty easy to encode/decode utf for example
unless you mean something else
earnest phoenix
you are jesus
And even Google Bard predicts that I'm gonna work at Google :^)
https://lensdump.com/i/6SZ7uA
quartz kindle
hahahah
hushed robin
how does google know your identity
radiant kraken
i mean, its pretty easy to encode/decode utf for example
read this and say simple again https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/
quartz kindle
damn even chatgpt knows you
earnest phoenix
wheat mesa
Google knows everything, but this one is probably because voltrex has an online presence
hushed robin
tbh why make open sourde when you can make closed source and make people pay
quartz kindle
read this and say simple again https://unicode.org/reports/tr9/
ah you mean the gramatical side of it, not the programatical side of it
wheat mesa
(Considering the amount of things he works on)
hushed robin
you could make a lot of money doing that with nodejs
wheat mesa
tbh why make open sourde when you can make closed source and make people pay
Because the world runs on open source projects
radiant kraken
ah you mean the gramatical side of it, not the programatical side of it
yes
wheat mesa
Not everyone does everything for money you know
radiant kraken
that's what you get in the unicode consortium
earnest phoenix
do you have any knowledge regarding unicode
Why would I want to maintain something I have no knowledge about? That just doesn't even seem right
hushed robin
Not everyone does everything for money you know
money is nice tho
only make it like $5
to support the deca
quartz kindle
Why would I want to maintain something I have no knowledge about? That just does...
when you become ceo of google, give me a nice job? :3
wheat mesa
Money is nice but it’s not necessary, if nodejs were closed source do you have any idea how many projects just wouldn’t exist
quartz kindle
preferably one without too much work :^)
hushed robin
but its already big
wheat mesa
Because it was open source
hushed robin
if they do it now theyll make lorsnof money
bc people wont wanna switch
yes yoy lose lots if people but make lots of money
quartz kindle
bc people wont wanna switch
trust me, people WILL switch
hushed robin
irs a win lose situation
wheat mesa
The greedy capitalist mindset
earnest phoenix
when you become ceo of google, give me a nice job? :3
I'll give you the job of "Google CEO's personal catgirl maid", $600,000/year
wheat mesa
Gotta love it
quartz kindle
I'll give you the job of "Google CEO's personal catgirl maid", $600,000/year
deal
wheat mesa
Dude LinkedIn tried to recommend that I apply for a level 6 position at Netflix… with an estimated pay range of 300k-900k per year
quartz kindle
nope
hushed robin
only maybe like half will switch
wheat mesa
💀 they really thought I was qualified
lyric mountain
but its already big
I mean, reddit is also big, and look at how many apps are simply ceasing to exist (unless reddit steps back)
quartz kindle
switching if you have a big project would be difficult
just switch to bun
they support like 90% of the node api
wheat mesa
Or deno
lyric mountain
so they just pay
they wouldn't
hushed robin
idk what a bun is
quartz kindle
another js runtime
hushed robin
they wouldn't
yes they do
wheat mesa
There’s tons of alternatives
hushed robin
they pay $10 and move on
lyric mountain
yes they do
no they wouldn't, buddy reddit is a living proof of that
wheat mesa
Nobody is going to pay for nodejs except for maybe a few large companies that rely on it
quartz kindle
dont call me buddy, bro
hushed robin
Nobody is going to pay for nodejs except for maybe a few large companies that re...
yes they will
$10 isnt mucu
radiant kraken
dont call me buddy, bro
okay buddy
quartz kindle
if nodejs becomes a paid project, nodejs will literally die
wheat mesa
$10 isnt mucu
Dude, you wouldn’t even pay someone 10 bucks to write code for you since you were too lazy to do it yourself, I doubt you’d pay 10 dollars for the ability to run code
hushed robin
tbh they should make me ceo of nodejs
lyric mountain
ya really ignoring what I'm saying about reddit
radiant kraken
Why would I want to maintain something I have no knowledge about? That just does...
but why did you decide to jump from llvm to unicode
hushed robin
ya really ignoring what I'm saying about reddit
resend it
i kinda just didnt read it cus
u wrote too nuch
earnest phoenix
but why did you decide to jump from llvm to unicode
"jump"?
lyric mountain
resend it
reddit api will be paid, many big projects (including apps and 3rd party clients) are simply gonna die because nobody will pay
hushed robin
Dude, you wouldn’t even pay someone 10 bucks to write code for you since you wer...
i would a lot of my projects rely on nodejs
wheat mesa
Based
lyric mountain
those projects do raise income for the devs, yet they're giving up
quartz kindle
voltred be looking like that dude who become a doctor, enginner and astronaut, all before he was 30
hushed robin
# reddit api will be paid, many big projects (including apps and 3rd party clien...
yes but theyll make money
Ecen if people stop using
wheat mesa
Yeah, you’re like what, 19 @earnest phoenix?
earnest phoenix
Correct
lyric mountain
yes but theyll make money
reddit will, but the devs of the projects wont
so, if nodejs was paid, nobody would pay
hushed robin
thats their issue
wheat mesa
Bro he’s a little more than a year older than me with 35 years more experience than me
hushed robin
reddit isn’t responsible for their financial sotuationt
wheat mesa
Actual gigabrain
earnest phoenix
I'm just that good 😎
frosty gale
i know a guy from work that started coding at age 7 he can scan through lines of code like a machine now 💀
wheat mesa
I started when I was 15
earnest phoenix
or something like that
I don't know if your question makes sense or not, I'm just interested in the inner workings of Unicode and it's components, so I want to maintain them and make major/important decisions
lyric mountain
reddit isn’t responsible for their financial sotuationt
nor is nodejs for its users
radiant kraken
like what
lyric mountain
yes, but paid node = no users
radiant kraken
major/important decisions like what
hushed robin
yea users
frosty gale
I started when I was 15
me at 14 get better
hushed robin
thre ones who paid
wheat mesa
All I’m saying is that Oracle doesn’t even charge for Java, and if oracle doesn’t charge for something then you know it’s not easy to monetize
wheat mesa
They’re dumb but extremely rich from the things they do
earnest phoenix
major/important decisions like what
The next breaking changes, important design decisions, what new characters should be included, etc etc
wheat mesa
Their CEO is one of the richest people on earth
hushed robin
yes
lyric mountain
I got a good example for you battle, one I'm currently using daily
hushed robin
i will be richer than him
lyric mountain
ever heard of delphi?
hushed robin
no
wheat mesa
(Actually no maybe he’s not the CEO, the owner is)
frosty gale
All I’m saying is that Oracle doesn’t even charge for Java, and if oracle doesn’...
to use the java length() function on a string, you must purchase java pro, run java_pro() in repl for more info
hushed robin
w languagr
lyric mountain
not exactly, as it's a dying language
hushed robin
😮💨
lyric mountain
they milked it so much that they killed the whole thing
hushed robin
i would do it better
frosty gale
like java but they kinda revived it by removing the boilerplate for a simple hello world (kinda)
lyric mountain
the only users left are those stuck to it from legacy codebases
hushed robin
nodejs is too big for large projects to switch
they rither pay or make all their code
💀
lyric mountain
new users are nonexistent as the license price is extremely high (cuz they need to compensate for the lost quantity)
hushed robin
real ceo mindset
lyric mountain
so it's literally a death spiral
frosty gale
if you think about it all programming languages have vendor lock in because different syntaxes
hushed robin
ok guys i hace a wuestion
lyric mountain
the price will continue to raise until not even the most loyal developers will be able to afford
and then, embacadero dies (the owner of delphi)
this is why u don't put a price tag in a language
hushed robin
axtually i gtg
frosty gale
matlab
hushed robin
will ask soon
lyric mountain
like java but they kinda revived it by removing the boilerplate for a simple hel...
java didn't revive, it never really died
the boiler plate thing is somewhat justified - you're not supposed to use System.out.println for anything but debugging, use Logger for anything else
tho adding unnamed classes and removing access modifiers from main is somewhat good for quick projects
quartz kindle
the boiler plate thing is somewhat justified - you're not supposed to use `Syste...
use log4j for everything else
:^)
frosty gale
use log4j for everything else
now first thing you see on google for log4j is the vulnerability
how did that even happen
frosty gale
i never knew you could fuck up logging to the console
quartz kindle
the java special
hushed robin
ok guys
lets say a user has 4 different xp
and for a role the user needs a specific amount of each to get it
and theres many different ones each with higher xp needs
how would i go about giving them the highest one they can get
quartz kindle
like what, the highest of the 4 xp is the one that counts to unlock the role?
quartz kindle
something like rpg stats and items? like to equip a sword you need 50 str and 25 dex
frosty gale
close enough
hushed robin
but its differiwnt cus theres lots of roles
quartz kindle
so just check each of them
hushed robin
what did you try?
nothing but i think about it and i dont get how i can do it
hushed robin
what is so complicated about it?
because how do i determine which is highest one
is there a package thay can do it for me
hushed robin
yes
quartz kindle
or of the roles possible?
hushed robin
each role has progressively higher xp requirement so like
quartz kindle
but if your roles need a certain amount of a specific xp type, why do you need to know which xp types is the highest?
hushed robin
role 1
xp 1: 1
xp 2: 2
xp 3: 4
xp 4: 3
role 2
xp 1: 3
xp 2: 5
xp 3: 6
xp 4: 6
i want the user to get highest one
so if they hace enoutj in each xp they get 2
but if not they get 1
quartz kindle
well, one easy way to do it is to loop over all roles, from highest to lowest, untill you find the first one where all xp requirements are satisfied
hushed robin
but how do i eo from highest to lowest
theres mutiple xpa
xps
wait
i get it
i thino
i do each one seperately from highest to low
i think
idk actually
thisbuurts
quartz kindle
const roles = [role1, role2, role3, role4, ...];
for(let i = roles.length - 1; i > -1; i--) {
if(user.xp1 >= roles[i].xp1 && user.xp2 >= roles[i].xp2 && user.xp3 >= roles[i].xp3 && user.xp4 >= roles[i].xp4) {
return roles[i]
}
}
as long as the roles are ordered correctly, yes its that simple
quartz kindle
yes
hushed robin
```js
const roles = [role1, role2, role3, role4, ...];
for(let i = roles.length...
how do i unhardcode this
for the if part
😮💨
quartz kindle
like if you want to add more xp types?
quartz kindle
you can organize xp types in an array for example
hushed robin
and you can add more xp tupes in the config file
quartz kindle
or loop over its objects keys
hushed robin
this is too unhardcodes
quartz kindle
it depends on how the xp types are coded
but for example
// example structures
role1 = {
id: 123124124,
xp: {
type1: 45,
type2: 23
}
}
user = {
xp: {
type1: 99,
type2: 99,
type3: 99
}
}
const roles = [role1, role2, role3, role4, ...];
for(let i = roles.length - 1; i > -1; i--) {
const rolexptypes = Object.entries(roles[i].xp);
const userxptypes = Object.entries(user.xp);
for(const xptype of rolexptypes) {
...
}
}
considering battle is using sqlite, can't u simply use ORDER BY?
hushed robin
considering battle is using sqlite, can't u simply use `ORDER BY`?
no
it's stored in a .json file
not the user data but the role data
lyric mountain
can't u use the database for that?
hushed robin
i could
but config file is better
because
to edit database u need to use sql
or download sqlite database viewer
but
json
no need
just open and edit
frosty gale
can always write a program that automates that :)
quartz kindle
make a json file to configure the program that configures the sql :^)
hushed robin
can always write a program that automates that :)
no
too much work
lolz
also why assume i use sqlite
maybe i used postgres
rustic nova
hushed robin
uh
quartz kindle
also, pretty sure you would just say "too hard" at anyone suggesting postgres
hushed robin
also, pretty sure you would just say "too hard" at anyone suggesting postgres
uh
no
maybe
quartz kindle
:^)
hushed robin
😐
proven lantern
does anyone have access to the alpha and know how the premium monthly subscription thing currently works? is there a new field in the interaction object that lets you know if the server is subscribed?
winged linden
yoo can i set multiple custom values for buttons?
same customid but multiple values
i dont wanna create multiple custom buttons all for the same function with different values
lyric mountain
yoo can i set multiple custom values for buttons?
same customid but multiple va...
wdym "custom values"?
winged linden
wdym "custom values"?
like i want multiple buttons (all have same customid) but different values for the function to run upon,is that setable or no?
lyric mountain
well, for start you cant have multiple buttons with the same id
they are required to be unique within that message context
winged linden
thats stupid though similar to slash commands, they should have different setable values
lyric mountain
and yes, if you could repeat the same id you can use the other properties of the button to differentiate between them
lyric mountain
thats stupid though similar to slash commands, they should have different setabl...
"id" by definition must be unique, else it's not an id
winged linden
well, for start you cant have multiple buttons with the same id
u mean customid? if yes yeah yeah ik that
i want just 1 button (1 customid) , for multiple values
winged linden
and yes, if you could repeat the same id you can use the other properties of the...
how? any docs for that
lyric mountain
i want just 1 button (1 customid) , for multiple values
so "multiple buttons" is actually one button but many uses
lyric mountain
how? any docs for that
there's not a doc for everything, sometimes you need to come up with your own logic
winged linden
module.exports = {
name: "bet",
description: "Coinflip, Double or Nothing",
ownerOnly: false,
run: async (client, interaction) => {
const mychoice = "heads";
const amount = "0.5";
await interaction.deferReply({ ephemeral: true });
const id = interaction.user.id;
const guildid = interaction.guild.id;
const fun = await f.bet(client, id, guildid, amount, mychoice);
interaction.editReply({ embeds: [fun.embed], ephemeral: true });
},
};```
i have multiple buttons with different ideas for different choices and amounts and i wanna change that to just have 1 button with interchangable amounts and choicesthe interaction event gives u the component object
winged linden
so "multiple buttons" is actually one button but many uses
100%
lyric mountain
the interaction event gives u the component object
use the given data to come up with a way to do what u want
winged linden
```const f = require("../../functions/solfunctions");
module.exports = {
name...
in the interaction can i grab the name of the button?
lyric mountain
in the interaction you have access to all properties of the clicked button
including id, color, name, emoji, link and message
winged linden
including id, color, name, emoji, link and message
huge!! i didnt know that haha
lyric mountain
when in doubt console.log(interaction)
winged linden
i can just use the names then, split the value "h = heads" and amount before |
winged linden
Thanks alot! u helped alot ❤️
lyric mountain
👍
slender wagon
hey guys i am back
I have a very good question
So i am working on this bot command (telegram bot) which will call another function and will have to await a confirm from that function in order to continue with the rest.
But the thing is i wanna reuse these functions without having to make timeouts one by one, what could be a solution to that
sharp geyser
@neon leaf hey I have a question, are you good at systems management and networking?
Specifically with nginx and such
neon leaf
ehh, id call it enough for what im doing so yeah, kinda
quartz kindle
So i am working on this bot command (telegram bot) which will call another funct...
why are you using timeouts?
ah you mean to expire the confirmation?
sharp geyser
ehh, id call it enough for what im doing so yeah, kinda
Can you help me figure out an issue i've been facing for a while?
neon leaf
what is it?
sharp geyser
Well my mailcow instance is interfearing with anything else I reverse proxy through nginx. So I get a lot of SSL errors and pages not loading because it thinks its mail.aarondye.dev rather then what I am actually pointing it to.
I also think its a combination of nginx config and my cloudflare dns config
neon leaf
what do your configs look like?
winged linden
👍
module.exports = {
name: "bet",
description: "Coinflip, Double or Nothing",
ownerOnly: false,
run: async (client, interaction) => {
await interaction.deferReply({ ephemeral: true });
const id = interaction.user.id;
const guildid = interaction.guild.id;
const buttonLabel = interaction.component.label;
const choice = buttonLabel.split(" | ")[1];
const amount = parseFloat(buttonLabel.split(" | ")[0]);
let choice2 = "heads";
if (choice.toLowerCase() == "t") {
choice2 = "tails";
}
const fun = await f.bet(client, id, guildid, amount, choice2);
interaction.editReply({ embeds: [fun.embed], ephemeral: true });
},
};```
Thanks 👑 Saved me a tone of time instead of doing a different button for eachconst interval = setInterval(async () => {
const invoiceStatus = await checkInvoiceStatus(invoice.id);
console.log(invoiceStatus)
if (invoiceStatus.status === 'Settled') {
sorry i meant intervals so this is how a normal file i have been working on looks like, but i am trying to reuse it and get rid of most of the things
no i am trying to get it all in one function but i really don't wanna use the intervals on all the files, i kind of want it dynamic:
// Check invoice status
await checkInvoiceStatusForDC(ctx, invoice, waitingMessage);
neon leaf
your nginx configs
neon leaf
try this
https://pastes.dev/GTSa6xAyAn
sharp geyser
try this
https://pastes.dev/GTSa6xAyAn
Actually don't know why that nextcloud stuff is still there thought I removed it, but that isn't the issue I don't think. Cause this was a thing before I even tried using nextcloud
I think the main issue is how I was using SSL certs cause it would always be an error about an invalid CERT or smth a long those lines.
lyric mountain
```const f = require("../../functions/solfunctions");
module.exports = {
name...
Btw u could also use control characters for visually identical labels yet different values
sharp geyser
Is there a way to sign a wildcard cert with letsencrypt cause what I was doing before was signing individual certs for mail.aarondye.dev and aarondye.dev
lyric mountain
There are about 100 control characters iirc
sharp geyser
I think thats what caused issues
lyric mountain
All which have zero width
neon leaf
hmm
sharp geyser
Also in the past when trying to visit my portfolio aarondye.dev it would show an error about an invalid cert name mail.aarondye.dev
slender wagon
Also in the past when trying to visit my portfolio ``aarondye.dev`` it would sho...
why your portfolio broki
slender wagon
Cause I fucking know nothing about systems administration or networking
neither do i
idk how i do it for my customers
my own portfolio is hosted on vercel
sharp geyser
my mail server is breaking everything tho and causing conflicts
slender wagon
my mail server is breaking everything tho and causing conflicts
ik a crazy solution
get rid of it
winged linden
Btw u could also use control characters for visually identical labels yet differ...
wdym
lyric mountain
wdym
U don't need to use T or E or anything
U can keep the text visually the same yet different by using control characters
Like \u200B
winged linden
U don't need to use T or E or anything
oh its fine, it was in the name before anyways to seprate heads and tails! thanks alot though
lyric mountain
Oh ok
hushed robin
tree man @sharp geyser
hushed robin
ok guys
right now i have this
how can i check if every value of requirements is above the users XP in that requirement
sharp geyser
aren't you already doing that?
sharp geyser
you are looping over requirements which will loop over everything in rank.requirements
sharp geyser
hushed robin
i think this might work
maybe
i haven't tested
hmm do u guys think it'll work
harsh nova
try it and see
harsh nova
maybe something with requirements.lengt instead of .length?
sharp geyser
looks fine to me
sharp geyser
because whatever you are indexing is at -1
harsh nova
yes since it cant index a value in an array of tuples
hushed robin
oh
wheat mesa
it's always returning false
if(!userXP[key] <= value) will also coerce userXP[key] to a boolean before comparing. Prefer using if(userXP[key] > value)
hushed robin
yeah
i switched it
to >=
but am i using indexOf correctly?
wait i know why
how can i get the text before number
i know Object.values will put the numbers in an array
but idk the others
sharp geyser
key will the the text value will be the number
so you doing userXp[key] is like userXp["trainings"]
if you want just the keys you can do Object.keys(rank.requirements) and loop over that
sharp geyser
wheat mesa
^ shaders are fun
hushed robin
ok so for some reason it only checks for the first rank in the array
like if i meet the requirements for the first one it returns it
but if i meet requirements for second one still returns first one
why is this being looped through an additional time???
am confused
civic scroll
why is this being looped through an additional time???
there will be additional console.log statements down the line
hushed robin
there's not
civic scroll
otherwise this should only log 2 times
civic scroll
you didn't take screenshot of entire function block
hushed robin
why would does that matter
hushed robin
civic scroll
additional log calls after executing getUserRank
hushed robin
...
there is not
i only require two things above that function
which is xp
and getUserXP
If I change one of the ranks to 3 it also changes
why is this one looping twice
yeah for some reason
the last thing in the array is being looped twice
civic scroll
then you better start learning about it
first, stop the program
if you hover on the line number on the left side of the editor, there is a red dot: that's a breakpoint
hushed robin
ok
civic scroll
aka. in debug mode, upon reaching a breakpoint, the program pauses execution, allow you to inspect variables' value as well as the context at the time of pausing
civic scroll
after which, hit f5 to run in debug mode
if you are lucky, you don't have to fill out debug configurations
again, breakpoint on two spots:
hushed robin
what will this achieve for me
civic scroll
this so we can track the loop iterations
and this so we know the function done executing
civic scroll
what will this achieve for me
to see what's causing the duplication
civic scroll
yeah, but what part is causing it
boreal iron
I still remember the "I don't wanna use Object.entries()" mimimi
hushed robin
and no dupelication
civic scroll
i don't gain access to your codebase anyway
hushed robin
it's my code
civic scroll
that code should loop only twice due to array length
hushed robin
if i add continue after console.log(rank) it doesn't loop through the last one twice
but if i remove it it does
civic scroll
that means you are indirectly modifying xp.rank
boreal iron
i don't gain access to your codebase anyway
Yikes people being worried about u could steal their non working "code"
hushed robin
bro what
civic scroll
hence i told you to run in debug mode
hushed robin
Yikes people being worried about u could steal their non working "code" <:KEKW:7...
i already sent the code
😐
civic scroll
to inspect what's changing