development

[hushed robin]

thx 🙌

[raw nest]

Does someone know ChartJS? Is there a possibility to place datasets between labels?
E.g. I want 30min periods as labels but between them I also have data for e.g. 12:37 AM a dataset etc.?

[rustic nova]

Oh you dont know how much I had to deal with ChartJS

you can have multiple datasets on one chart

Should also allow mixing multiple datasets with different labels

something like this https://www.chartjs.org/docs/latest/samples/line/multi-axis.html

[raw nest]

@rustic nova hm okay. Yes I already saw that. So what I want is e.g. I have 1:00 PM & 2:00 PM labels and I want to place 10 datasets between it (e.g. 1:13 PM, 1:15 PM, 1:37 PM...) so the datasets don't stick to the labels

[rustic nova]

So essentially something like
1:01PM 1:02PM..
1:00PM 2:00PM

[raw nest]

exactly

[rustic nova]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42934608/how-to-create-two-x-axes-label-using-chart-js

the example seems to match what you'd need

just as an example with months and years

the implementation seems a bit more complicated than I thought, but yeah that should do it

[rustic nova]

Also works with the y axis

[raw nest]

You sure? It seems that you still can only place (or show correctly) as many datasets as there are labels

[rustic nova]

ohh

the second x-axis seems to only be for keeping track of the ranges itself rather than the times, so you'd need to have the main x-axis as the times, then the second one with the 1:00PM, 2:00PM and so on

as far as I can tell at least

[raw nest]

As far as I can see one axis is only for the years separation. And the other is for the data. There are actually no datasets between labels, they still stick to it 😅 Is this even possible? xD

[rustic nova]

Am sure its possible, chartjs is pretty customizable

unsure how it would be done though

[raw nest]

[compact pier]

How should I save images that are being sent from client to server?

What is the most efficient way?

[rustic nova]

through bytes in memory

or are you referring to storing it long-term?

[lament rock]

lossy compression exists or resizing to a standard format

[compact pier]

yes

[wheat mesa]

Anyone can sue anybody for anything. Doesn’t mean you would win, so I would seriously love to see you try lmfao

[hushed robin]

no

[slender wagon]

i don't think his parents are gonna agree on suing anyone over the internet

[hushed robin]

true

very true

[slender wagon]

so change that to
i can't sue you

[hushed robin]

no

[slender wagon]

yes

[hushed robin]

i could sue him

[slender wagon]

u are underage and can't make a case

[hushed robin]

so

being underaged doesn’t mean I can’t sue him

[slender wagon]

anyway if u wanna talk more bring it to dms i'll show you why even tho u may sue them you can't win the case

dms are at $230 a hour rate

[earnest phoenix]

Yes

[eternal osprey]

Hey guys, i had a question about registers (a set of flip flops) in general. A flipflop must have 2 selector bits denoting whether we want to perform the set, reset or hold action right? In a digital circuit it's only denoted to have one input called d. Does this mean that d must expect 2 bits?

[wheat mesa]

We’ve been doing flip flops in my class and I’m ngl our teacher sucks so unfortunately I don’t understand them either

[eternal osprey]

brooo me too tvh

tbh

like flip flops are quite easy, i could help you with that

just registers were never really fucking mentioned besides a 2 minute short description brev

[wheat mesa]

Our teacher has an English degree and has never taught this course before and knows basically nothing about electronics

But the school gave him this course to teach for some reason

[eternal osprey]

whhahahhaha no way that's fucked up

[wheat mesa]

We literally teach him 💀

[eternal osprey]

whahahahah

do you have digital?

[wheat mesa]

The course is called digital electronics

[eternal osprey]

no i meant digital

[wheat mesa]

No idea what that is

[eternal osprey]

the program to simulate digital circuits

[wheat mesa]

We use a program called MultiSim

[eternal osprey]

ahh i see

[wheat mesa]

We’ve been trying to make truncated binary down counters for the last 3 days and our teacher can’t figure it out to teach us how to do it

[eternal osprey]

omgg that is fucking hell

i have a teacher that is like really smart in these things, so he assumes we already know everything

we are both fucked

[wheat mesa]

I can make a binary down counter with d flip flops but I can’t figure out how to use the async inputs to get it to count from 5 to 0 instead of 8 to 0

[lament rock]

@eternal osprey I was recently watching a yt video explaining stuff like registers and other concepts which I found very informative and fun.

https://youtu.be/I0-izyq6q5s

[eternal osprey]

hey, thank you! i will have a look

[lament rock]

He does revise his logic a few times, but it shows some techniques

[eternal osprey]

I understand the topic quite well, but had trouble with understanding how the value actually gets hold. Then i came with an insight but not sure whether it's correct. If we select the I to be 1, we perform the set action right? So Q will be set to 1. But on the rising edge of the clock the Q could already be overridden as I could change. Does that mean if we want to hold a value, the input I must stay the same?

[lament rock]

once the set signal has been sent, any value sent to a register is stored but if the value of the input has changed due to a race condition, you may need to separate bus lanes if they're shared

or make a queue system

[eternal osprey]

oowh so the register takes one set/reset input and another input for selecting what you want to store?

[lament rock]

Yeah. Depending on the register size of course

[eternal osprey]

i thought that the registers were just flipflops attached to each other

as the flipflops don't really need an external input for the thing to be stored

[lament rock]

Well. 1 bit registers can effectively be flip flops

[eternal osprey]

hmm

the flipflops, if they have a 1 as input it will set the q to 1 right. It will instantly output it. Is this the same with registers? Because, if we set something in the registers, will it output the current value like normal flipflops or the previous value?

[lament rock]

I still recommend watching the video or at least parts that are relevant to you because he does go over accepting an input and a store signal

[lament rock]

It'll only output the stored value

[eternal osprey]

i already found it strange that the register had an extra input

oowh i see, i will def watch the video.

[eternal osprey]

i see, thank you!

oowh wow i understand it now

this fucking simulator sees the registers as a series of flipflops, so the d is the action you want to perform and the en the data to store (1100 for example if you want to have a register of 4 flipflops)

so suppose we are saving 1000, it will output 1000 as well. As long as our D is 1 (if that is our previous action) it will stay 1000. If the D is 0, it will reset the register (or if we have an input en that is different than 1000 and D is set to 1)

[slender wagon]

hey, so i am working on some discord webhooks rn and for some reason they work only once and then they respond with status 200

anyone has a clue?

[earnest phoenix]

Trying to add a pause in my code that looks somewhat decent;

            try {
                Thread.sleep(500); // Pause for half a second
            } catch (InterruptedException e) {
                // Handle the exception
            }
            if (i == 1) {
                System.out.print(".");
            } else if (i == 2) {
                System.out.print("..");
            } else if (i == 3) {
                System.out.print("...");
                System.out.print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b"); // Move the cursor back
                System.out.print("Creating Player..."); // Print the final message with an extra space
                z++;
            }

            try {
                Thread.sleep(500); // Pause for half a second
            } catch (InterruptedException e) {
                // Handle the exception
            }
            System.out.print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b"); // Move the cursor back
            System.out.print("            "); // Overwrite the previous output with an extra space
            System.out.print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b"); // Move the cursor back
            System.out.print("Creating Player");
            if(z == 1) {
                System.out.print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b"); // Move the cursor back
                System.out.print("            "); // Overwrite the previous output with an extra space
                System.out.print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b"); // Move the cursor back
                System.out.println("Creating Player...");
            }
        }```

Is there an easier way to do this lol? Seems like a lot for such a small thing

[deft wolf]

Please, use codeblocks

[winged linden]

Hey! I got a question 🙂

I have a setinterval function but sometimes the function inside it takes more time to execute then the interval time set (& it all depends how many guilds are using this feature) how can i insure this doesnt happen?

[deft wolf]

Thanks

[rustic nova]

create a method for your "cursor back" ways, with an integer as a parameter

also for

            if (i == 1) {
                System.out.print(".");
            } else if (i == 2) {
                System.out.print("..");
            } else if (i == 3) {

probably a way to optimize too

[winged linden]

Cause its making my bot super slow if it runs again before its done

[rustic nova]

also tbf, adding a simulated delay is ehh

[lyric mountain]

Wtf did you put yourself into lmao

[earnest phoenix]

Just wanted to try it because it looked goofy with how it was

[lyric mountain]

Gone from path detection to cpp to circuit design

[rustic nova]

but yeah you can improve on the "move the cursor back" methods instead of having out.print all over

[earnest phoenix]

Also other random question-
I want to make this thing into a discord bot but have no idea how (lol)
Would it be hard to create the idea in java and then fix it to work with a discord bot? Or would it be easier to just learn how to make a bot and do it from the ground up

[rustic nova]

2 things, yes would suggest to learn bot development from the ground up

second, using thread.sleep inside a discord bot is gonna be pain

since it would pause the whole discord bot iirc

[lyric mountain]

You recalled correctly

Unless it's not js/python/dart/pascal

[slender wagon]

guys just so you know the global fetch of node can be very weird

keep node-fetch atm

i had to delete 15 webhooks cuz of it

for some reason it was sending the info only once

[lyric mountain]

Global fetch?

[slender wagon]

well the fetch node has on its own now

[lament rock]

what node version are you using because it might use outdated undici

[slender wagon]

18.13

[eternal osprey]

i am attending computing science at my university in the netherlands, so we get like 4/5 different courses each semester

from databases, to coding, to fucking math.

each course is enlarging my ass

[lyric mountain]

U sure it ain't computing engineering?

CS doesn't usually go down to fucking circuits

[wheat mesa]

yeah circuit design classes usually are for electrical engineering majors

[eternal osprey]

we got like 3 different degrees in the netherlands, so like you got the CS that's equivalent to college ig that mainly does practical things like coding etc, then you have a degree higher, which is university where you mainly learn about the information behind the practical things.

So cpu's, memory, as well as matrices, security and what not

ion know what the fuck i am doing with my live tbh

[lyric mountain]

You'll end up with 3 degrees at once

[earnest phoenix]

Node.js v18.13 uses an Undici version that has regressions, update to Node.js v18.15

[eternal osprey]

yeah i wish that i went to a university in like the US or something

[slender wagon]

Oh good to know thanks

[lyric mountain]

I mean, you'll end up quite knowledgeable in a bunch of areas

At the cost of 1/3 of your sanity but oh well

[eternal osprey]

1/3?

Crank that shit up

i got no fucking social live

[wheat mesa]

I'd say the majority of software engineers probably don't know too much about the internals of a computer. You'd have an advantage over people in that space for sure

[eternal osprey]

i gotta study 24/7 to understand half of the topics lmao

[wheat mesa]

Rigorous programs will make you a diligent and experienced person when you get out of uni

[eternal osprey]

yup indeed, but at this moment it has become a bit too much for me

[lyric mountain]

Try to get a hobby to ease your tension if u can

Else you'll burn up like a grape in microwave

[eternal osprey]

yeah i go to the gym and love to code, but yeah don't really have much time for that as my exams start in a week

[wheat mesa]

@lyric mountain just made a pretty decent improvement to the performance of the systems in my engine by giving an initial size to the HashSet that stores the entities in each system

https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~kube/cls/100/Lectures/lec16/lec16-8.html#:~:text=But a good general “rule,should be a prime number thanks to this

[lyric mountain]

Ah yes, heard abt that

The same applies to arraylist

In fact, arraylist is pretty slow if it grows fast since it increases the capacity only a bit at a time

[wheat mesa]

thought it doubled the size on every resize?

[lyric mountain]

Not arraylist iirc

Lemme check, just a sec

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4450628/arraylist-how-does-the-size-increase

Most apache collections do use doubling method

[earnest phoenix]

What is this and why does it need my 2fa code

[lament rock]

Discord applications by default are assumed to be for rich presence purposes and you have to specifically mark it as a bot in order for it to be a bot account which is a destructive action

[earnest phoenix]

does it do anything to my actual account

[lament rock]

not to your account no

[earnest phoenix]

Is there any reason not to do it

[lament rock]

If you're not making a bot

[lyric mountain]

also making a bot there will not, I repeat, will not create a functional bot

it'll just create a bot account that can be used for programming a bot

[earnest phoenix]

wdym

[lyric mountain]

I mean you'll just create an empty shell

it won't give you a bot like @gilded plank or @grave zealot

[earnest phoenix]

i mean yeah

how do i get gradle

for this

[wheat mesa]

oh boy

[lyric mountain]

when you setup a project intellij will download it automatically

my question is, what are u trying to do?

[earnest phoenix]

make a bot

[lyric mountain]

do you have previous experience with java?

[earnest phoenix]

I know how to do everything I want to in java

just not discor dbot

trying to make something like this i guess

[lyric mountain]

what did u make in java before?

just asking cuz very rarely you'd not bump into maven/gradle soon or later when programming in java

[earnest phoenix]

AP cs stuff if you're familiar with that

this is my first time coding outside of taht shitty website codehs

so haven't really experienced all this stuff

[lyric mountain]

ah ic, no prob then ig

[earnest phoenix]

ignore the inputs (lol) but this is what I have so far- just want to make it into a discord bot

[lyric mountain]

I have to ask cuz we get a lot of people here who never touched code trying to make a bot

[wheat mesa]

uh so fair warning AP CS is a lot different than making a bot with JDA

it's going to be a challenge I'll warn you

but it's definitely something you can do if you've taken the fully AP CS course

[earnest phoenix]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

I suppose ur gonna use JDA right?

[earnest phoenix]

i understand that I don't know what I'm doing 💀

[earnest phoenix]

i guess

[lyric mountain]

the discord library I mean

there are a couple for java iirc, but jda is the most stable (and popular) atm

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah doesn't matter to me

It's what the guide i'm using says to use so whatever

[lyric mountain]

...you see, choosing the correct library is highly critical if ur gonna make a bot, since you can fall into pit traps (abandoned libs for example)

but well, did u download intellij?

[earnest phoenix]

ye

I have a program setup in intellji

just not for anything discordbot relayed

[lyric mountain]

then all you need to do is click new project and select gradle, the setup is pretty straightforward

[quick ridge]

Hello how are ther to dey

[lyric mountain]

the screenshot is outdated, gradle got merged into java

[lyric mountain]

show the rest of the image

I'll circle it

[earnest phoenix]

oh

i seee

[earnest phoenix]

ye

[lyric mountain]

I do not recommend using java 8

[earnest phoenix]

what else is there

[lyric mountain]

java 18

[earnest phoenix]

oh

[lyric mountain]

java 8 is extremely outdated, you should always use the latest LTE version

[earnest phoenix]

can i just do this

[lyric mountain]

unless you're forced due to backwards compatibility

yes, that one is fine

intellij automatically downloads versions for you, which is nice

yes just checked, you're using jda

I recognize that guide

that guide is outdated tho, you don't need to make a shadowjar to run the bot

you can simply run with gradle directly

[earnest phoenix]

so how do i actually do it

[lyric mountain]

it's in the readme iirc

after u create a gradle project all u need to do is add what's written here

[lyric mountain]

yes, but what's shown there is if you were to create a shadowjar

implementation("net.dv8tion:JDA:VERSION") this is all that matters

replace version with the version shown in the repo

[lyric mountain]

replace $jdaVersion with the latest version

without v

u can also click on that tag to get the full gradle string

implementation group: 'net.dv8tion', name: 'JDA', version: '5.0.0-beta.5'

[lyric mountain]

u wrote something wrong

[lyric mountain]

yeah remove $

use the format I sent btw

implementation() is legacy format

[lyric mountain]

yes

now click the elephant button on the top right

and let it download the necessary stuff

[earnest phoenix]

what elephant button lol

the dinosaur?

[lyric mountain]

that's supposed to be an elephant lmao

[earnest phoenix]

k yeah it did it

[lyric mountain]

but yes

u can also remove the test block below

[earnest phoenix]

ohhh

[lyric mountain]

it's useless since u cant unit test a bot

[lament rock]

I unit tested my bot by faking Discord's gateway

[earnest phoenix]

so why does thbis still no tworth

still not work

[lyric mountain]

u need to import them

click on the lamp icon

[lyric mountain]

you're crazy

[earnest phoenix]

the lightbulb/

[lament rock]

You're only now realizing that after all this time I spent discussing all of my stupid projects?

[lyric mountain]

lmaoo

[lament rock]

yes

[sudden geyser]

that's not really a stupid project

[earnest phoenix]

still says htis though

[lyric mountain]

do the same again

[earnest phoenix]

lightbulb went away

[lyric mountain]

alt enter

[sudden geyser]

testing remote stateful things is fairly useful

[earnest phoenix]

oooh

[lyric mountain]

also, BOT_TOKEN is supposed to be replaced

[earnest phoenix]

well yeah

but

[lament rock]

tbh I am a little intrigued in making a server people can override their gateway connections to test their bots

[lyric mountain]

please do fucking do it

[lament rock]

since most libs offer proxying requests

[earnest phoenix]

why is it saying my token isn't a thing lol

[lyric mountain]

because it doesnt exist until you declare that constant

[lament rock]

Would be fun trying to have non committal objects which is based off of sessions

[earnest phoenix]

I put my bot token in it

saying cant resolve symbol for part of it

[lament rock]

or delete everything after a time period

[lyric mountain]

did u write "like this" or like this?

[earnest phoenix]

2nd

[lyric mountain]

...ok, listen

ik making bots is cool and all, but you should attempt an easier project until you get the hang of java

bots aren't as easy as it sounds

[earnest phoenix]

This has nothing to do with java

[lyric mountain]

it does

[earnest phoenix]

I'm just trying to get it setup and then learn it

[lyric mountain]

you forgot strings require quotes

[earnest phoenix]

No

[lyric mountain]

the token is supposed to be a string

[earnest phoenix]

I did not know it was supposed to be a string

[lyric mountain]

the function shows it

[earnest phoenix]

You just said put the token in lol

that has nothing to do with java

Like I said, I'm just trying to get the basics setup and then worry about everything

[lament rock]

That has everything to do with Java

[earnest phoenix]

Not this specific problem that prompted them to say that I should go learn java before trying something like this

[lyric mountain]

booting up intellij just to show it does ask for a string

[lament rock]

You cannot setup something without prior knowledge of the language

[earnest phoenix]

Like I said before

This is my first time actually using intellji

not some shitty website that doesnt help with anything

Forgot you could hover over it to see what it needs

The issue isn't that I didn't know a string needs "", I just didn't know it was supposed to be a string

[lyric mountain]

note "String token"

[lament rock]

as you type, I'm pretty sure a popup of the argument list and expected types pop up showing what's needed

[earnest phoenix]

Whats your point

I didn't say that it wasn't supposed to be a string

[lyric mountain]

java only has 3 types of values (from a very high view)

either a primitive, a string or a class

a token contains both numbers, letters and punctuation

which cannot be any of those

unless put in quotes

plus the error would tell u it was supposed to be a string

[earnest phoenix]

Someone else told me that you can't create a bot in java and it's completely different. I wasn't thinking about java logic. Again, I'm just trying to get the basics setup and then figure everything out. I know what I need to know in java for this

[lyric mountain]

that person is terribly wrong lul

you can make a bot in any language that allows http requests

[earnest phoenix]

And as I said before, this is my first time using intellji. What I've mostly coded on before doesn't tell you what needs what, or anything close to that, so I wasn't even thinking about looking at it to see what was wrong.

[lyric mountain]

no problem with that, but try to make a simple project just to get used to your tools first

else you'll get stuck after the guide ends

and I mean it, most of using JDA is using javadocs and ctrl + space to discover methods

since it lacks a comprehesive wiki (don't blame them tho, it's a huge lib)

[wheat mesa]

Keep in mind that AP CSA is actually also a fairly introductory course to the language and actually doesn’t teach a ton

The most advanced data structure they go into there is like arraylists pretty much

[lyric mountain]

if u do choose to practice before making a bot I'd gladly help you with your questions

[earnest phoenix]

so even making a bot that's just input output is complicated?

[lyric mountain]

well, not exactly "complicated", but it's somewhat counter-intuitive for a new dev

[wheat mesa]

there's a lot of setup involved

[earnest phoenix]

just trying to turn this into an interactive like

[earnest phoenix]

this

but yeah i guess i could see how its not as simple as i thought it would be

[lyric mountain]

like, with bots you'll be mostly working in an async scope

[wheat mesa]

Yeah, HTTP requests and responses are not taught in AP CSA, so it's going to be a new concept

Events as well

Lambdas and such

[winged linden]

hey can someone help 🙂

  verifyservers.find().then(async function (b) {
    for (const server of b) {
      const address_to_track = server.track_address;
      const guildid = server.server_id;
      const roles = server.roles;
      const guild = client.guilds.cache.get(guildid);

      if (guild) {
        const perms = guild.me.permissions.has("MANAGE_ROLES");
        if (perms) {
          const members = await guild.members.fetch();
          await Promise.all(
            members.map(async (member) => {
              const account = await profiles.find({
                discord_id: member.id,
              });
              let count = 0;
              if (account.length > 0) {
                //check number of nfts
                await sleep(100);
              } else {
                //remove the related roles
              }
            })
          );
        }
        await sleep(1000);
      }
    }
  });
} finally {
  isRunning = false;
}```

i have this piece of code in a setinterval function but its making my bot SUPER slow, does changing to a much more powerful vps solve that problem?

[solemn latch]

Why sleep?

You're sleeping every member of every guild,
If your bot is in one guild with 30000 bots that's 3000 seconds for just that one guild for no reason

Also, you're fetching every member of a guild every time

[deft wolf]

It's not sleep per server?

[solemn latch]

100ms per member

1000ms per server

From what I see

[deft wolf]

Ah yes

You're right

[winged linden]

To not hit the rate limit, inside each account i have an api call to check the nfts each user has

[earnest phoenix]

mee6 moment

[winged linden]

The sleep is only inside if thr user is in the database anyways, so no 30,000 bots isnt 3000 seconds

Bots arent in my database anyways, the database consist of users that linked their wallets only

[deft wolf]

Yes, but you fetch all users on each such server, not just those who are in the database

[lyric mountain]

can't you just track that data through other means?

[deft wolf]

If you don't need them then why do you need them in the cache

[winged linden]

To remove related roles if they have them 🙂

It doesnt sleep if they arent in the database though so this part isnt causing problems

[lyric mountain]

try a reactive approch, instead of proactive

like, react to actions instead of taking actions yourself

for example when the user speaks

[winged linden]

Yup might have to try that, cause this is making my bot take lots of memory and cpu usage somehow

[lyric mountain]

it's cuz ur fetching + sleeping

sleep usually takes quite a bit of cpu usage (in js)

and fetching will create new entities, thus using more ram

other than that, might want to use more named functions instead of lambdas, since apparently js creates a new anon function every single time it's called

[winged linden]

thanks alot, got 1 more question can this cause problems too cause i am calling mongodb too often?

const account = await profiles.find({discord_id: member.id,});

[deft wolf]

Each database query takes some time

[winged linden]

gonna just cache all the data each min and just use cache then

probably better

[deft wolf]

I have no idea how much, but in the case of my bot, it's enough that it can't respond within 3 seconds of receiving an interaction

[lyric mountain]

most databases cache recently fetched data

[winged linden]

yeah but if i keep my own cache that just updates every min instead of calling the database for each user, isnt that better?

[lyric mountain]

kinda, but you'll compete with mongo's cache

and you risk desync

[winged linden]

true

[frosty gale]

i'd say more cache is never a bad thing

you should 100% keep your own cache alongside the databases one imo

you can also save a lot of requests to mongodb over a network

[earnest phoenix]

unless you need alotta ram

[deft wolf]

You mean the .env file?

[earnest phoenix]

Just ask your question, if someone is experienced with something they'll answer your question

[lament rock]

The Path env var is basically a list of directories the command prompt looks at for binaries (commands) the shell can execute. You would append a directory to the Path variable and separate entries with whatever character is used

I think on windows it's ;

what os

oh

windows 8.1

does it give you an error when you try to add another

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm

Whenever you click the edit button on path, you should get an option to Add an entry

[earnest phoenix]

That's literally what's supposed to happen

You don't add variables to the PATH environment variable, you edit it and add paths

They're separated by semicolons on Windows

Which one are you choosing? The user variable or the system variable?

[lyric mountain]

semicolon

that path editor is weird tho

was supposed to be like this

[earnest phoenix]

I wonder why you're using Windows 8.1 anyway unless you can't upgrade to Windows 10/11 for hardware incompatibility reasons

[winged linden]

hey i have this,

members.forEach(async (member) => { });```

if i change it to 
```const members = await guild.members.fetch();
for (const member of members) { }``` its bugs why?

[wheat mesa]

You haven’t even shown what you’re doing with the members

Fundamentally those two things do the exact same thing

Also you haven’t described what you mean by “bugs” either

[winged linden]

if i try to do anything with the for it just bugs anything

even if i log member.id

[wheat mesa]

Ok again, I don’t know what “bugs” means here

That could mean a lot of things

[winged linden]

if i log member.id it sends "undefined"

in the for loop^

in forEach, it works normally somehow

the one commented doesnt work

[wheat mesa]

Oh

You need to do for(const [guildId, member] of memberstest) {} instead

Because member in your for..of loop is [string, GuildMember], not GuildMember like you think it is

(Typescript for the win)

[wheat mesa]

@lyric mountain do you know if there's a way to "simulate" command line args? I want my program to always run with -Dsun.java2d.opengl=true but I don't want to have to specify that for each user running it

[sudden geyser]

how about programmatically setting the option

[wheat mesa]

yeah that's what I'm trying to do but I've never done that

[lament rock]

you can also do launch scripts the user is supposed to run versus the user trying to run it themselves.
This is what I do for most of my typescript software because I enable source maps for debugging even in production systems

also telling my users to launch a LavaLink remake I did using the start script via npm run start or yarn start if they prefer yarn package manager over npm

[dull dragon]

i need to be 16 to be verified dev right

[hushed robin]

to verify a bot, yes

[civic scroll]

that memberstest is of Collection<string, GuildMember>
so if you call regular forEach, it gets called like an array (<Array>.forEach)
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/collection/main/class/Collection?scrollTo=forEach

Collection<string, GuildMember>
.forEach((value: GuildMember, key: number, map: Map<string, GuildMember>) => void)

but when you loop like for const, membertest turns into an iterator
(possibly via calling .entries() of Map)
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/collection/main/class/Collection?scrollTo=entries
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map/entries
(optional https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Iteration_protocols)

Collection<string, GuildMember>
.entries(): Iterator<[string, GuildMember]> // something that Array implements

that's an iterator of arrays with two elements (key, value)
to make it do the what you want it to do (which is only accessing its value)
, make a call to .values() instead

for (const member of membertest.values()) {
    //...
}

for more of that, i assume that you use discord.js, can read more here
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/collection/main/class/Collection

oh shit the signature was differnt

[radiant kraken]

imagine using Collection

[sterile vault]

@boreal iron since you helped me (and in the end you were right, not making ReactPHP mandatory was the right thing to do) if you want you can look at the temp documentation while they revise the pr.
https://github.com/top-gg/php-sdk/blob/195363a23e519fecd5b683cba1974df48e7fc6df/docs.md

[queen mango]

can't i have this event in a cog?
http://cdn.sugari.live/74264.png
doesn't seem to be working-

[quick helm]

hi guys,

when I need to return information that exceeds the amount of characters allowed in the embedded message, what should I do around it? Instead of an embedded message, send a DM to the person who requested it?

[rustic nova]

you can just return that error to the user, unsure how that "embed creation" is being triggered

[quick helm]

ok but the complete information requires more characters than allowed.

can i send the complete info to DM breaking the message ?

[final tangle]

you can send it in multiple embeds

[jagged knoll]

It would then look spammy and untidy but yes you could.

[final tangle]

or you can use fields if you wish

I have no idea what's the limit for fields

[quick helm]

I can't, the reviewers rejected it because of that ^^

[deft wolf]

Yea but u can send up to 10 embeds per 1 message

No 1 embed per 1 message

[quick helm]

interesting, that I didn't know, but will they deny it if I do that too? ^^

ohh i see i can send array of embedds

[deft wolf]

I don't know that, but it's definitely a better option for sending many embeds

Yes

[quick helm]

so nice , i'll try apply modifying it

ty dude @deft wolf

[deft wolf]

Np

[quick helm]

The server responded with error 50035: Invalid Form Body
Inner Errors:
MAX_EMBED_SIZE_EXCEEDED: Embed size exceeds maximum size of 6000

i think isnt work for me too 😛

how i turn around for reviewers dont deny it lol

[rustic nova]

check if the embed is too large, if it is, just strip the rest of it and replace it with ...

if your embed really needs to have that content, consider using pagination

[winged linden]

hey! if i wanna slice members to process them in batches how can i do so?

[quick helm]

good idea, i can put some emojis to paginate it

[winged linden]

const members_to_process = members.array().slice(processed_members, processed_members + batchsize);```

i have that but it doesnt work

[quick helm]

normally in javascript when I need to do a skip take, I use the splice.

the code becomes cleaner and more readable

[winged linden]

the problem isnt with the slice, member.array() doesnt work, its something different ig

[quick helm]

const takeNumber = 3

const numbers = ['1', '2', '3', '4', '5','6', '7', '8', '9', '10'];

for(let i = 0;i < numbers.length ; i + takeNumber){
console.log(numbers.splice(i,takeNumber))
}

[quick helm]

if i were you, i would see what object is coming from this fetch and what is this processd_members? is it control variable ?

[winged linden]

const members_to_process = members.map((member) => member).slice(processed_members, processed_members + batchsize);
did that and its all good now, not sure if its efficient though

[winged linden]

and yes, its a variable

starts at 0

increase each loop by the batchsize

[rigid maple]

do you know of a nodejs package that returns audio properties like this

[quick helm]

don't use map for loop, use map if u have to return a different object. instead of map use for.

const takeNumber = 3

const members = [
{id: 1, nome: "jao"},
{id: 2, nome: "maria"},
{id: 3, nome: "augusto"},
{id: 4, nome: "lerolero"},
{id: 5, nome: "fabiano"},
{id: 6, nome: "namala"}
];

let membersProcessed = [];
for(let i = 0;i < members.length ; i + takeNumber){
 let arrayConcat = members.splice(i,takeNumber);
 membersProcessed.push(arrayConcat); 
}

console.log(membersProcessed);

the output will return an array of object arrays

[earnest phoenix]

If bot

Reach

More then 100 Servers

and after it verifed

can I still use prefix COmmands?

without slashes

[charred nest]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

oh Okay

[charred nest]

you have to apply for message content intent for that as well

not just verification

[earnest phoenix]

bcz Slash commands is

too hard to make

but the prefix is easy

to setup so

[charred nest]

it rlly isn’t but

[earnest phoenix]

Wait I will create a form nw

[earnest phoenix]

Making the slash commands is the Most Curse thing in the world so no need to ask more things about it

🥲

[charred nest]

discord is moving away slowly from message prefix commands anyway which means lib devs will probably eventually drop support as well

by support i mean helping w coding it

[earnest phoenix]

kk

[final tangle]

paginator is a good way to keep things clean

[hushed robin]

not really

it's basically the same process

and they're easier to use as a developer

[wheat mesa]

What? Lib devs are going to support message commands, message intent still exists and many people use it. Just because discord prefers slash commands doesn’t mean that libraries are going to drop support for one of the most fundamental parts of their libraries

[charred nest]

^

it’s still going to exist in libs. it just means that they won’t have support for it

[wheat mesa]

That doesn’t make any sense either

[charred nest]

many are already doing that

[wheat mesa]

Of course they’re going to support people working with message commands

I don’t know of anybody that does that

[charred nest]

doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

[wheat mesa]

That would make no sense, anybody that does that probably doesn’t have many people using their lib

[sick agate]

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdbool.h>
#include <string.h>
#include "pico/stdlib.h"
#include <stdlib.h>
int main() {
    stdio_init_all();
    printf("Working");
    size_t current_size = 0;  
    char buffer[1024];
    memset( buffer, 0, sizeof( buffer ) );
    while (true) {
        char character;
        character = getchar();
        int a = (int)character;
        if (a==10 || a==13){
            printf("%d",a);
            printf("%s\n", buffer);
            memset( buffer, 0, sizeof( buffer ) );
            current_size = 0;
        }
        else {
            buffer[current_size++] = character;
        }
        }
    return 0;
}

i somehow end up not being able to reuse the array

[radiant kraken]

after the first or second memset

[sick agate]

second

i need the first

[radiant kraken]

buffer[current_size++] = character; sounds like an array access out of bounds nvm

[sick agate]

it works fine without 2nd.memset but probably

[radiant kraken]

wha

[lyric mountain]

System.setParam() or smth

[radiant kraken]

try changing them to memset(&buffer[0], 0, sizeof(buffer));

[sick agate]

will try

fixes

[radiant kraken]

np

[sick agate]

thanks

[radiant kraken]

glad my C brain is still working

[sick agate]

i want to learn c better lol

[radiant kraken]

why

[sick agate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i just wanna?

[radiant kraken]

then gl

C wasnt a pleasant experience for me

[sick agate]

yeah i know that

[radiant kraken]

took me a few months to get used to the pointer system

[sick agate]

yeah it will to me

[lyric mountain]

Support for prefix commands will exist as long as discord stays a message-based chat app, lib devs can't drop support for something so fundamental

That is, unless discord cuts messages from bots permanently, in which case it'd mark the death of discord as we know it

[radiant kraken]

i doubt

it wouldn't go as far as the literal death of discord itself

[quick helm]

prefix basically is to distinguish if it is a command or not

[lyric mountain]

It would become a different thing, not necessarily die entirely

[radiant kraken]

how

[quick helm]

started with a prefix what is concatenated with the prefix is the command after spaces become parameters

[lyric mountain]

Many unprefixed features like moderation, automatic responses, drop prizes (ik discord hates this one, but people like it), levelling, and other stuff I can't remember now

By "cut messages from bots entirely" i don't mean just content, I mean the actual message event

[radiant kraken]

i doubt they would do that

but i understand what they were trying to accomplish with the message content intent

[lament rock]

its funny though because clients receive message events for channels they can't read. There are obviously not contents attached to it, but you can exploit it for images

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, it's easier to filter-out misuse of quite a sensitive data by whitelisting instead of blacklisting

[radiant kraken]

nice

so i can technically view images from the #moderators channel here

[lament rock]

Discord: we dont want our users to create AIs using our users' messages.

also Discord: we're making an AI from our users' messages

[lament rock]

yeah if the sender is on mobile, the images usually follow image0.png format

[radiant kraken]

wym by users creating AIs using their messages

[lament rock]

if on pc you can try unknown.png

[lyric mountain]

Wait you can what?

[lament rock]

yeah

[rustic nova]

nah they dont

poc where

[lament rock]

People can train AIs using messages

[lyric mountain]

I knew about being able to see hidden channels, but didn't know about events

[lament rock]

one sec

[rustic nova]

the events arent sent to the client

[lament rock]

Then they already patched it

Im trying to find the video

[rustic nova]

yeah then that was old

I know that was a thing before

[lament rock]

Yeah it wasnt recent

but I didnt imagine it would be patched since it seemed like it had to deal with arbitrary permission assignment like editing the channel last_message_id so that you don't have to GET the channel before you can GET /channels/:cid/messages

oh wait nvm last_channel_id is just for before searches which are optional

Please ignore me I am dumb

also I think it was only user accounts that got the events because this was probably before the message content intent so having the content be null would have broken apps

[wheat mesa]

@lyric mountain I have a performance question, would it be a bad idea to get() from a HashMap every frame using a string? I'm thinking of using this for a custom input system so I can do something like if(keybindManager.triggered("Fire")) {}

That wouldn't be very expensive at a small scale right?

[lyric mountain]

Hashmap access is always O(1), it's fine to use it

[wheat mesa]

Well yeah algorithmically but I wasn't sure if the hashing operation on strings would get expensive to call frequently

I'm assuming it's probably cached after one use anyways though

oh perfect

[lyric mountain]

Strings are stored in a special table in java, so their hash values are stored when they're created

Which is why strings are immutable

[wheat mesa]

Figured so, that's one of the things I would expect java to optimize (considering what little optimization it actually does)

kinda insane that it does almost all of the optimization at runtime

not sure why they went with that design decision, maybe to optimize differently on different platforms

[lyric mountain]

The whole thing around strings in java is overwhelmingly optimized

I think most languages where strings are immutable use some sort of string table

[wheat mesa]

Yeah that's generally one of the most basic optimizations languages make

string interning is super optimized

[lyric mountain]

But yeah, java speed ramps the longer it runs since JIT will fine-tune the code depending in where it's running

Also why micro-benchmarking is remarkably hard to do in java

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I never understood why java doesn't do more compile-time optimizations

Hell it doesn't even do inline function calls until runtime

[lyric mountain]

You can hint the compiler with annotations

Like @Range annotation which tells the compiler the expected range of values in a param

There are others that tell it to inline too, I don't recall the names now

[wheat mesa]

I don't think there's an inline function annotation

unless I've been living under a rock

[lament rock]

@inline

[wheat mesa]

there's certain things you can do to convince it to inline, like I think that final functions are more likely to get inlined

if a method is too many bytes in the resulting bytecode it won't inline as well

I think default is 12

[lyric mountain]

Hm, I think I mistook with scala's inline annotation

[eternal osprey]

does anyone know why we would use .DATA over .CONST in assembly?

Like for example in one of my lectures, they computed k = i + j

so they used i: .DATA 3
J: .DATA 5
but couldn't they also use constants for this or am i wrong?

[lyric mountain]

AND NOW YOU'RE IN ASSEMBLY

Soon you'll be bashing rocks together to program

[eternal osprey]

whahahhaha

believe it or not, this is still part of my processors course

[earnest phoenix]

Bro's gonna be using punch cards next ☠️

[eternal osprey]

i will become a master coder/engineer/rock smasher in a few years

yall aint ready for this

[earnest phoenix]

The last one

[earnest phoenix]

There are multiple types and formats of Assembly, such as AT&T, Intel, x86, GAS, NASM, and many others, how should we know which one you're talking about?

[wheat mesa]

(I would assume he's probably doing x86)

[earnest phoenix]

x86 doesn't have a .CONST assembler directive

[eternal osprey]

i honestly have no clue

it's talking about assembly in general

i actually think that we use our own assembler

but not sure what it's based on

[earnest phoenix]

You can't really talk about Assembly in general because it doesn't have a single or general form, it has many upon many

So there's no way we can help without knowing the specifics

[eternal osprey]

ah np, i didn't know that mb

[lyric mountain]

Java is multiplataform, C is single plataform, ASM is half-plataform

Which makes RCT even more impressive

[craggy pine]

This channel is for asking help regarding code and other things related to coding. No one here will help you make a bot for you.

[lament rock]

I'd like to add that probably most people here even want help on their own bots, so

[eternal osprey]

huh

[rustic nova]

I wish to throw devs against a wall

bootstrap select

• support for bootstrap 5
• does not work on bootstrap 5

[compact pier]

How to validate the image buffer, that are being sent from client to backend

[lament rock]

You can probably try to load it into a bitmap image manipulator and if it fails then it obviously isn't an image. Otherwise, you can check Content-Type header if it's sent by the browser itself and not an API. You can also add extra hidden fields to a form if it is posted via form to verify that it was sent on your site and most likely sent by a browser, but people can scrap html. Having hidden forms is recommended to protect against XSRF

[compact pier]

But when user look at the internet inspect tab, they can see the hidden forms. How can I hide it complely

btw do you have any docs about bitmap image manipulator?

[craggy pine]

the person I replied too deleted their msg.

[wheat mesa]

So currently learning a little bit of git/github, does anyone know how I would fetch the most recent commits/version from a repo if the fork I'm working on is behind the original copy? My friend is working with me on my game engine, and so he has his own fork of it which needs to be caught up with the commits I pushed to my repo.

[lyric mountain]

you can't hide anything in the frontend

if there's anything u don't want the user to see, don't put in the frontend

[earnest phoenix]

The original repository is called the upstream repository meanwhile the forked repository is called the origin repository, if you want to sync your fork (origin) with the original (upstream), simply add it as a remote:

$ git remote add upstream <URL of the original repository>

And pull from it (I would also recommend using the --rebase CLI flag as it would put your work on top of the new changes/commits):

$ git pull --rebase upstream main

(Note that main is the branch, in this example we're pulling the changes/commits from the original (upstream) repository's main branch)

[wheat mesa]

thank you for the detailed explanation C:

[earnest phoenix]

You're welcome

Or you could make a PR like everyone would do

[wheat mesa]

Well, I'm working on a repo that I own, and my friend has forked that repo and is working on it as well, but when I commit to the repo he needs to be able to sync his cloned fork with my repo so he can continue where I left off

So this is basically exactly what I was looking for

That way he can update his copy, create his own changes, make a PR, then I can merge it

[flat prawn]

Sooooo
Im working on a bot...
Made from BotGhost because...well...idk C+ and so im making It there
My Bot can do Tickets/Moderation/Role give/Partnership and im working on much more made from scratch
I've send the bot to TOP.GG and im waiting approval...
But if i want to create a website for my bot to join servers and get a Premium version of It...
Is It a normal thing or not?
+
I know Bluerpinte Is not appreciated by the most of the Devs because of multiple Things...
But can i still call my self a Dev if i programm Whit Bluerpinte?

[lyric mountain]

nobody sane would make a bot in C++

[flat prawn]

I forgot the right leanguage

[deft wolf]

Also I don't know why people care so much about being called a developer

[flat prawn]

I don't care that much Im Just curios

[wheat mesa]

@ brain

[flat prawn]

and a lot stupid

[deft wolf]

You can call yourself the king of Great Britain, but that doesn't change anything

[flat prawn]

I Was Just asking... 😦

[earnest phoenix]

And they're replying

It doesn't matter, say what you want

If you want to make people call you a developer, do it

If you want to make people call you a king, do it

[flat prawn]

No One calls me the way i want

[earnest phoenix]

And that's the hard reality of life

[flat prawn]

Even at my Age you can see the entire Life and know how hard It is

[spark flint]

at what age

[flat prawn]

🫣

[earnest phoenix]

Someone doing a fully fledged game on unreal engine with blueprints is more a developer than someone doing a discord bot with blueprints.

[flat prawn]

3 years old

[spark flint]

@ mods ban !!!

[flat prawn]

Using Unreal Engine to make a game Whit Bluerpinte actually

[flat prawn]

+10

Silence

[earnest phoenix]

Because there's nothing to say

[flat prawn]

Ok

[deft wolf]

As for these "partnerships", I hope that the bot does not send links in private messages because they will not accept your bot

[wheat mesa]

You can call yourself whatever you want, but don’t expect people to call you a developer if you’re using botghost, it’s not really a “real” development experience

[flat prawn]

Nooooooooo... Ok maybe...
But not for what you think

[wheat mesa]

I don’t even call myself a developer about 2.5 years after starting programming

[flat prawn]

But if i use Bluerpinte on Unreal i can call my self whatever i want?

[flat prawn]

That's... A lot of time

[wheat mesa]

You can call yourself whatever you want but other people may not do the same

[earnest phoenix]

You don't need to do anything to call yourself whatever you want

[wheat mesa]

^^

[earnest phoenix]

Others won't call you the way you may want, and who cares

If they don't consider you a developer but you do, then you probably did something wrong

E.g. using botghost which is not a development experience as already said

[wheat mesa]

Calling yourself a developer when you’re a beginner is the epitome of the dunning-kruger effect though

[flat prawn]

Well...if Someone when i have my Dreams job doesn't call me how i want i Would be mad

[earnest phoenix]

Nobody called me by my job's nature so far

[wheat mesa]

In case you’re not familiar ^

[earnest phoenix]

I haven't done any drama around it either

[lyric mountain]

being a dev is more about thinking logically than writing code

[flat prawn]

0 confidenze 50 Competence

[flat prawn]

Especially Whit Bluerpinte

[wheat mesa]

Yeah the majority of programming is logical thinking/problem solving

[lyric mountain]

we frown upon "blueprints" because they're severely limited and a pretty cheap way to solve things

nothing wrong with who use it, but there're better options

[wheat mesa]

Yeah, plus they shelter you from what you would actually use in the real world

[flat prawn]

But Is more complicated

[wheat mesa]

Like IDEs and GitHub and other tools that are used frequently in development

[earnest phoenix]

Nothing's easy if you want to be good at it

[wheat mesa]

This ^

Nobody starts off as a senior dev, you gotta work your way up by getting out of your comfort zone a little

And that’s a perfectly good thing to do

[sudden geyser]

I think they mean blueprint as in a specification for how something should be implemented

[earnest phoenix]

No

[wheat mesa]

You sure? They were talking about using BotGhost and such earlier

[earnest phoenix]

Blueprints as in Unreal Engine's blueprints

[wheat mesa]

That too

[flat prawn]

I prefer learn from my errors alone

[earnest phoenix]

So did I

[wheat mesa]

Not quite sure if I understand what you mean by that

[flat prawn]

When i started using Bluerpinte of Unreal and BotGhost i started Whit nothing

[wheat mesa]

Generally speaking when you start to learn a new skill you start off with virtually 0 knowledge of it, yeah

[earnest phoenix]

Starting off with botghost and blueprints is nice and easy, but at some point you will have to face the challenge to move away from these and use technologies closer to reality.

[wheat mesa]

Nobody uses blueprints in the real world because like KuuHaku said, they are very limiting and don’t provide much customization, and often times “blueprint languages” don’t even exist for what you may attempt to do

Blueprints are very introductory and are used as a way to not confuse you a ton when first starting something like Unity

[earnest phoenix]

Most developers combine blueprints with some C++ or C#

They do make use of blueprints, not in the game's entirety

[flat prawn]

Tried roblox

[earnest phoenix]

You won't achieve with just blueprints what people achieve without them

[wheat mesa]

Not sure what that has to do with the topic

[flat prawn]

I know a Youtuber that Is making a game Whit 0 knowledge in Bluerpinte

[wheat mesa]

You can make games without them

[earnest phoenix]

As said, the game won't be the same quality

[flat prawn]

I tried programming in roblox

[wheat mesa]

But you usually can’t do much complex stuff with only blueprints

[wheat mesa]

And how did that go?

[earnest phoenix]

Try to make a proper multiplayer FPS game with blueprints only, good luck

[flat prawn]

Not bad actually

[flat prawn]

Easy

[earnest phoenix]

Not at all

[spark flint]

inb4 people actually start using scratch for discord lmfao

[wheat mesa]

Roblox uses lua as its primary scripting language

[earnest phoenix]

Networking can't be handled by blueprints

[spark flint]

https://scratch-for-discord.netlify.app/

[earnest phoenix]

So won't be multiplayer

[wheat mesa]

Which is a language that is pretty easy to pick up quickly

[deft wolf]

Honestly, it's more complicated for me than writing a bot XD

[flat prawn]

Knowing that the base pack for FPS games uses A weapon and a character i only Need to do AI plugin/Character in Blender and a map

[earnest phoenix]

Again, multiplayer

[flat prawn]

I want to Try actually

[wheat mesa]

Yeah that’s not the only thing that goes into making a game

[earnest phoenix]

Blueprints won't be able to handle network packets correctly

[wheat mesa]

You basically just described how the art works

[flat prawn]

Idk how to make multiplayer

[earnest phoenix]

So why'd you say

Easy
:)

make a triple A game only using blueprints

no balls

[flat prawn]

I actually love Cars more so i Was thinking about making a car game not an FPS Game

[earnest phoenix]

oh shit i said the forbidden word

mods pls have mercy

and pls dont write me a 2k char long dm

Same thing, you won't have the same tools available by just using blueprints

[flat prawn]

You didnt Say Multiplayer before i started writing

[earnest phoenix]

I did

[wheat mesa]

He…did..

[earnest phoenix]

Message has not been edited, you said

Easy

the average discord user who cant read

Replying to the message that said it as well

pretty common in tech related servers

[flat prawn]

For example in BotGhost i maked my Own way to the finish of the command

[flat prawn]

Yeah i didnt read it

[earnest phoenix]

So there's no point on talking if you don't read imo

[wheat mesa]

I think that the initial argument was about whether or not you can call yourself a developer by only knowing blueprints and botghost. The position I take on this is that you can call yourself whatever you want, but other people may or may not consider you a developer

[flat prawn]

You are rught

[flat prawn]

I wanted to know if i should make a Website for my bot in reality

[earnest phoenix]

thats like using copilot/chatgpt to write code and calling yourself a dev

[flat prawn]

And yes this one

[wheat mesa]

I wouldn’t consider you a developer by only using the skills you described, but you can call it whatever you want

That’s just my personal opinion

[flat prawn]

And i have an answer

[wheat mesa]

…if you want to?

Nothing is stopping you

[flat prawn]

And i respect it

[flat prawn]

Now i Just Need a web site Creator programm...

Well

Gotta search for it

[wheat mesa]

It’s called HTML + CSS + JavaScript

[flat prawn]

only knows JavaScript because of Minecraft Modding

I know more of Jbeam actually

[wheat mesa]

That’s not even the same language

Java and JavaScript are very different

[flat prawn]

It's java

[wheat mesa]

It’s like the difference between car and carpet

They have the same word in them, but they are drastically different from one another

[flat prawn]

I know but as i said...

Im stupid

[wheat mesa]

You can learn

[flat prawn]

I know but what?
C+/++/#?
Difficult...
Jbeam?
Alredy trying

Whit success actually

[deft wolf]

You can try JavaScript for discord bot

[flat prawn]

Isn't It the same?

[wheat mesa]

What?

[deft wolf]

There are plenty of tutorials and JS will also be useful for a website

[wheat mesa]

C++ is leagues more difficult than JS

You don’t use C++ for websites

[flat prawn]

🤔

[wheat mesa]

JS is pretty easy, especially in comparison to the languages you just described

[flat prawn]

🤔🤔

[flat prawn]

I seriusly know more of Jbeam and modding BeamNG than JavaScript

[deft wolf]

Just do what is in the discord.js guide and you have a bot, the rest you can write yourself using the acquired knowledge

[wheat mesa]

Dude, JBeam isn’t even a language

https://wiki.beamng.com/JBeam_Introduction.html

It’s not even comparable to javascript

They do fundamentally different things

[plain jackal]

[wheat mesa]

This is for like physics or some shit for an engine

[plain jackal]

it looks more like json than javascript

[deft wolf]

Probably not very useful in discord bots and websites

[wheat mesa]

It is quite literally based on JSON

[flat prawn]

BeamNG Is write in that leanguage l

[wheat mesa]

It’s not a language

It’s a file format

[flat prawn]

BeamNG Is the most accurate Simulator that Someone can play

[wheat mesa]

I’m telling you that javascript and Jbeam are not comparable because they are quite literally different things

[flat prawn]

Yeah i know

I Just understand Jbeam better

[wheat mesa]

I give up

[flat prawn]

I know you are trying to Say: Jbeam isn't a leanguage and so on

But the entire modding community of BeamNG can easily Say to you that It Is right...
But Is It still used for information and Automation mods

[plain jackal]

a whole community of flat earthers will say the earth is flat, doesn't mean it's true

[deft wolf]

Okay, but it won't help you write a discord bot in any way

Or website

[plain jackal]

or anything other than beamng

[eternal osprey]

does anyone know why i am unable to save keynumber?

like, it always logs undefined outside the listener, eventhough keynumber is initialized globally.

while if logged in the listener it is actually defined for some fucking reason like tf

[lyric mountain]

is the event supposed to be lowercase?

[eternal osprey]

i copied it from their docs

so yeah i think so

[solemn latch]

Result[0].key.key?

[eternal osprey]

not really

{
  key: {
    id: 16948418,
    name: 'ChittyKat - 345138133429649408',
    key: 'x',
    active: true,
    admin: false,
    type: 'anonymous',
    share_type: 'all_subcalendars',
    role: 'modify_from_same_link',
    subcalendar_permissions: [],
    require_password: false,
    has_password: true,
    creation_dt: '2023-03-20T01:46:47+00:00',
    update_dt: null
  }
}      ```

so result[" key"].key

also logs me the right value, just outside the listener it's not working. Almost like the keynumber isn't saving

also forget that last snippet, i already removed the [0] from the code call

[lyric mountain]

tbh, modifying variables from inside an async scope is never a good thing, tho I don't think that's the reason

[eternal osprey]

hmm strange..

[lyric mountain]

did u try debugging?

[eternal osprey]

for some reason my vsc on mac is looking primal lmao

so ion know where to find it tbh

i am using the go debugger now

[lament rock]

You'd usually just return a new Promise and resolve with the key and then use it when you need it

[junior summit]

why is making discord embed my media so difficult

im trying to use meta tags on html but it just wont embed

[rustic nova]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54266598/meta-tags-for-url-with-description-and-image-in-skype-discord

Keep in mind that discord caches previous urls

so add a ?aaaaaa or anything else to the end that still goes to your wanted page to get a new uncached one

each time you want a different url tho, so ?a then ?aa and so on

[compact pier]

PNG image files begin with an 8-byte signature which identifies the file as a PNG file and allows detection of common file transfer problems: \211 P N G \r \n \032 \n (89 50 4E 47 0D 0A 1A 0A). That signature contains various newline characters to permit detecting unwarranted automated newline conversions, such as transferring the file using FTP with the ASCII transfer mode instead of the binary mode.[10]
Can this be faked and execute as a XSRF

[earnest phoenix]

You can edit any bytes of any file

Do whatever you want with that

[rustic nova]

as long as the library you're using isnt assuming that "Yup I hope this is correct im just dropping it into memory" you're good

[compact pier]

because I have a backend server that allows image uploading and then display that saved image to frontend. But the files can contain virus and then execute the XSRF on frontend and I don't know how to prevent it

Does checking the signature of the first bytes is enough?

[rustic nova]

you can, if you want to go the extra mile, ensure that all the data matches the rfcs for an image/file/etc

though I really suggest having a library handle that

[compact pier]

ensure that all the data matches the rfcs for an image/file/etc
I don't understand what you mean here, can you explain?

[rustic nova]

theres a common data format within the image itself, such as the length of the signature, length of options etc

you can ensure these are valid and discard the image if these are not

cant provide resources about that, dunno where to find em

[compact pier]

ahh okok, I understand. I have googled it, I think it is called the magic numbers or smth

[rustic nova]

not magic numbers, one sec

such as this for png, unsure if this is uptodate or not http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/spec/1.2/PNG-Structure.html

[compact pier]

okok, thank you a lot. I will take a look into it

One more question, what if I use the Content-Type header to check if the data is an image, what will happen if I send the Content Type with header image/png, but the data is something else?

[earnest phoenix]

Magic numbers is basically what you've written as first message

Usually called magic bytes though

Don't rely on headers to know what content type it is, it's as naive as checking the file extension after the dot

[compact pier]

so is there a way to validate if the data is an image?

[earnest phoenix]

More than one check

[compact pier]

wdym?

[earnest phoenix]

Edit the permissions for the files uploaded, check the MIME type, check the file extension, check the magic bytes, rename the files to random names, validate content type header, etc. etc. etc.

Also actually host uploaded files on a completely different server or service offering that

And read https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/File_Upload_Cheat_Sheet.html as well

[compact pier]

okok, thank you

[winged linden]

Hey! If i wanna process members in chunks, is it better to fetch the guild members in a pagination format or to fetch all the members then split them into chunks?

[deft wolf]

If I understand correctly, fetching server members every time someone changes page doesn't seem like a very good idea

[winged linden]

No not that, i have a loop that goes over a specific guild members, this guild has a huge number of members & i have to process them to check if they own a specific nft

If i just loop over them it takes so much memory and cpu usage so i am splitting them into chunks

My question is, is it better to fetch all the members and split into chunks after or fetch the members directly in chunks??

[lyric mountain]

wasn't u going to take a reactive approach?

fetching will always load the members into memory, you can't avoid that

you can simply track from your database if you really want to check automatically on a schedule

[winged linden]

Yeah still going too, but i still have to have a loop that atleast runs once a day that filter out bots / users that dont chat

[winged linden]

Yeah i know that, but is fetching into chunks better for memory or no?

I got to a point my bot is doing much better during that loop, but still wanna optimize it to the max

[lyric mountain]

fetching by itself is bad if ur going to do many times a day

[winged linden]

Its once / twice a day

[lyric mountain]

simply track from within your own db

[winged linden]

Yeah but what if someone has the role thats he got manually but he never chats and never got in the db

[lyric mountain]

if they got manually you won't be able to prevent them from getting again

at this point it's more about staff discipline than anything

[winged linden]

True

[radiant kraken]

iiiiiiii

[spark flint]

iiii

[potent wing]

hey guys i was wondering if i could get a little help with something because ive been trying to fix this issue for awhile now and havent been able to figure out what i did wrong

[deft wolf]

Then describe the "issue"

Maybe someone will know the answer

[potent wing]

so during the night i was making a giveaway command for my bot. i got the creating the giveaway down pretty well but its the reroll command im having issues with ill do a test giveaway with one of my friends to react to it so theres more than one person then once the giveaway is over i attempt to reroll but it says "no one has participated in the giveaway" so its not registering that theres people in the giveaway and ive tried for hours and cant figure it out

[deft wolf]

You'd have to provide your code and possibly what database you're using

[potent wing]

for these commands in particular im not using a db but i do use MySQL

[lyric mountain]

mysql is a db

ah, u mean for those specific commands

[potent wing]

yes

[lyric mountain]

well, if ur not using for those commands then u should, since u need to create a new giveaway in the db

[potent wing]

ahhh i see

[lyric mountain]

or if you want not to, you'll need a global variable of some kind to hold those who react

actually, just saw you're using reactions, don't you need to fetch the users who reacted?

[potent wing]

im kinda new to this sort of stuff so maybe i do idk

[lyric mountain]

yep, it has no cache property

nvm, it had a manager

oh well, what a messy structure

[potent wing]

damn

[lyric mountain]

try this https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/main/class/Message?scrollTo=awaitReactions

[potent wing]

so something like this?

const filter = (reaction, user) => reaction.emoji.name === '🎉' && !user.bot;
    message.awaitReactions({ filter, max: winners, time: 15_000})
    .then (collected => console.log(`Collected ${collected.size} reactions`))
    .catch(console.error);```

[lyric mountain]

yes, not necessarily the example shown there

inside .then see if it logs the users who reacted

[potent wing]

Unhandled Rejection: ReferenceError: collector is not defined```

i get that error

[wheat mesa]

Show your code

[wheat mesa]

You never defined collector

[lyric mountain]

also the awaitReactions need to be inside the collector, not outside

[deft wolf]

Also I guess awaitReactions should be assigned to sentMessage, not message

[lyric mountain]

that too

[earnest phoenix]

Yes

[crystal furnace]

Hey I want to ask that does presence_count counting people who are online but they are in invisable status or it just count online + dnd + idle?

I am confusing about this so much :))

[deft wolf]

You mean this?

Or this?

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i wrote this piece of assembly code here

READ [i], R1 # R1 := i

READ [j], R2 # R2 := j
READ [k], R3 # R3 := k

CMPF R1, R2 # R1 - R2 (TO CHECK)
JUMP.LE else # if I <= j, jump to else

if: MOVE R1, R3 # k = 1
JUMP endif 

else: MOVE R2, R3 # k = j



endif: WRITE R3, [k]
           
       HALT


i: .DATA 7
j: .DATA 12
k: .DATA 0
 ``` does anyone know where i can assembly this into machine code and actually execute it?

[lyric mountain]

https://www.jdoodle.com/compile-assembler-nasm-online/

idk how to setup it for offline compilation tho

[wheat mesa]

I believe it depends on the type of assembly

But nasm is the command I believe?

[eternal osprey]

yeah it is

we are using nasm apparently

[crystal furnace]

well I think I mean both :)))

[neon leaf]

json parsing blocks the main thread in nodejs if im not mistaken, correct? If so is there any module (thats not irrelevant) that does that either in a streamed or in an async way?

[deft wolf]

Well, "Invisible" is probably not considered online then

[lyric mountain]

it blocks the only thread yeah

you can put it inside a promise to prevent blocking

[neon leaf]

🧐

so

const parseJSON = async(json: string) => {
  return JSON.parse(json)
}```
or what

[lyric mountain]

yeah ig

tho u can drop the block and simply => JSON.parse(json)

[neon leaf]

yeah, but why does that work?

I mean, isnt it a sync function at the end of the day?

[lyric mountain]

it's inside an async block

it doesn't matter if the operation is sync (everything is sync - they're just wrapped in async blocks)

[neon leaf]

interesting

so technically an actual async json parse would not change perf?

[lyric mountain]

change perf?

[neon leaf]

I have no clue why I just wrote that, whether an actual async parse would run better, generally

[lyric mountain]

an actual async json is impossible

[earnest phoenix]

what da heck is that horror

[lyric mountain]

async is simply "something that might return a result in a near future", so the runtime simply continues its path without waiting for the result

that function will simply allow the code continue before it finishes parsing the json, but it holds little value if ur going to await it anyway

[neon leaf]

ah, now it makes sense, so await basically turns something async into something sync (pure technically, not actually)

[lyric mountain]

await tells the runtime to wait for the result

[neon leaf]

yes

just like with a normal function

[lyric mountain]

yes

[neon leaf]

so something like the render function from the ejs package would not benefit from running as async if in an async enviroment anyway, right?

[lyric mountain]

yes ig

[eternal osprey]

does anyone know how we can transform such hexadecimals to bin v

0x8000 012f

i tried searching it up online, however i only found easy examples and no 0x... things

[wheat mesa]

Converting a hex string to a binary string? What language?

[eternal osprey]

just by hand..

like, in a mathematical way

[wheat mesa]

Hex is just like binary, but with powers of 16 instead of powers of 2

Usually I would convert the hex number to decimal then the decimal number to binary

First place is the 1s place, second place is the 16s place, third place is the 16^2s place, fourth is the 16^3s place, etc

[earnest phoenix]

Just as note, 0x is the prefix and has no other use than to show it's a hexadecimal number

Same for binary numbers who often use 1011b for example

The b itself is just to show it's a binary number, nothing else

[lyric mountain]

in some langs it's 0b1011

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah that as well

[eternal osprey]

owh wow this is pretty easy actually

so each char in the string can be seen as a 4 bit code?

0x8000 01af

f = 1111

0 = 0000 etc

[earnest phoenix]

I mean

0x800001af

f*16^0 + a*16^1+ 1*16^2, etc.

[eternal osprey]

1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 1010 1111 this would be the result right

[eternal osprey]

what the fuck is that

[earnest phoenix]

That's how it works, just like the decimal system

[eternal osprey]

oowh yeah

that's the mathematical way indeed

[earnest phoenix]

154 decimal is

4*10^0 etc.

[eternal osprey]

i rather just wanted like a bistring from a hexa string

i denoted it wrong in my question

[earnest phoenix]

But yeah that's correct

[eternal osprey]

but i think that i got it now, thanks for all the help

one last question about loadhi, sorry for so much crap i been asking but i've got a test to learn for and they didn't give us the right answers lmao.
1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 000110101111
10-00 0000 0000 0000 0000 00*01- 1010* 1111


.LOADHI 1, R10
.ADD 175, R10

would this be a correct translation?

if we have this format

like, the 1 is the 22 bit constant within the - -

and the ** the 10 bit constant (as loadhi is c22 + c10 )

[deft wolf]

Yea

[earnest phoenix]

Try it and see

[deft wolf]

You can use displayAvatarURL() too