development

[north cairn]

yea?

[lyric mountain]

really?

ok so, for future reference, use a debugger when something isn't working the way it should, it's the easiest way to find out what values are being passed to the functions

[north cairn]

i m not used to it tbh

i generally find out by console

but this time diff case

so say where is the isue anyways

[lyric mountain]

console is great but it can't solve logic errors

simply because it doesn't cause "errors", as in, written errors

[north cairn]

yea

[lyric mountain]

see if you notice anything out of place here

[north cairn]

u c beforr also i had issue here

i dont remmebr how i fixed that time

[north cairn]

no?

wait

should it be

client.slashCommand

[lyric mountain]

did u really write that code?

[north cairn]

yea i did when i was rlly new
saw some part fro internet but most of it i wrote

[lyric mountain]

you're retrieving a slash command using a slash command (not id)

and then executing the whatever thing returns from the function

[north cairn]

if i remove the last line
and then execute the slashCommand,it still shows errors

[lyric mountain]

"shows errors"?

[deft wolf]

What kind of errors?

[north cairn]

les say i do

slashCommand.execute(client,interaction)

it says that execute isn't a function

[lyric mountain]

show how you're registering client.slashCommands

[north cairn]

k

client.on('ready', async () => {
  const rest = new REST({ version: '9' }).setToken(process.env.token);

 
    
try {
        console.log('Started refreshing application (/) commands.')
        await rest.put(
            Routes.applicationCommands(process.env.applicationid),
            { body:slashCommands },
    );
  
    console.log('Successfully reloaded application (/) commands.')
  } catch(error) {
    console.log(error) ```

[lyric mountain]

that's where ur publishing to discord

I want to know where you're registering the variable client.slashCommands

[north cairn]

u mean in code?

[deft wolf]

Yes

[lyric mountain]

well ofc in code

[north cairn]

client.slashCommands = new Discord.Collection()

[lyric mountain]

and where are you populating it?

[north cairn]

index.js file

[lyric mountain]

the code

[north cairn]

const { readdirSync } = require("fs");

const Discord = require("discord.js")

const { REST } = require('@discordjs/rest');
const { Routes } = require('discord-api-types/v9');
const { token } = process.env.token;


const ascii = require("ascii-table");
const client = require("discord.js");
const { clientId }  =  process.env['applicationid'];
let table = new ascii("SlashCommands");
table.setHeading("SlashCommand Name", "Loaded Status");
const slashCommands = []



module.exports = (client) => { 
   
  
  readdirSync("./slashCommands/").forEach(dir => { 
    const commands = readdirSync(`./slashCommands/${dir}/`).filter((file) =>
      file.endsWith(".js")
    );
    for (const file of commands) {
      const pull = require(`../slashCommands/${dir}/${file}`);
      slashCommands.push(pull.data.toJSON());
         if (pull.data.name) {
        client.slashCommands.set(pull.name, pull)
        table.addRow(pull.data.name, "✅");
      } else {
        table.addRow(
          pull.data.name,
          `❌`
        );
       
      } 
    }
  
  console.log(table.toString());
  });
  client.on('ready', async () => {
  const rest = new REST({ version: '9' }).setToken(process.env.token);

 
    
try {
        console.log('Started refreshing application (/) commands.')
        await rest.put(
            Routes.applicationCommands(process.env.applicationid),
            { body:slashCommands },
    );
  
    console.log('Successfully reloaded application (/) commands.')
  } catch(error) {
    console.log(error) 
}
 });
  }```

[north cairn]

handler slash command

[lyric mountain]

you're printing a table to the console, does it mention every command correctly?

[north cairn]

yes

3 commands i have in slash command,all 3 showing

[deft wolf]

What is pull.name here?

It should be pull.data.name no?

[lyric mountain]

good catch

[north cairn]

huh

y

ok fixed,now?

[lyric mountain]

see if it works

[north cairn]

k

@lyric mountain @deft wolf so i changed it to pull.data.name and changed the slash.execute to slashCommand.execute and now its working

[lyric mountain]

nice

[north cairn]

but i m sure bro it was pull.data.name before

few days back ,one guy asked me

to inv to repl

seems like he did some sussy things

@lyric mountain any thanks bot u guys have

?

[lyric mountain]

what

[north cairn]

i mean

like

to thank you

-thanks @lyric mountain

like this

[lyric mountain]

there's no bot for this here

but you're welcome

[north cairn]

oh

btw how many years into coding

u guys

me about 1 year

lot more to learn ig 😢

[lyric mountain]

16 I think, but most of it unrelated to discord or actual programming

[north cairn]

@deft wolf @lyric mountain thank you guys once again 🙂

[north cairn]

wha

16?????

isn't that supposedd to be ur age lol

too many grown ppl here

[lyric mountain]

not really, I used to play gmod when I was 8

and my favorite mod was wiremod, which includes E2

which is technically programming

[north cairn]

u must be programing for some company?

[lyric mountain]

counting only real prog languages, about 4 years

somewhat yes, but not big corpo

[north cairn]

cool
Nice to meet you guys

[lyric mountain]

yw

[wheat mesa]

The Java god

[lyric mountain]

nah, far from it

[north cairn]

good morning mr waffle

[wheat mesa]

Good morning

[north cairn]

which lang u master in

[north cairn]

its evening here btw but who cares l

[wheat mesa]

7:45am here

[north cairn]

whats that 1150th

150*

[lyric mountain]

"master" none, but I program in java

[north cairn]

and 2 years

[lyric mountain]

and cough delphi

[north cairn]

dem

so kinda new to js?

i m sure u guys know python very well

[north cairn]

||html>>>>>||

[lyric mountain]

not much, just enough to automate a few tasks

[lyric mountain]

I do know my way around js, just not as fluent in it as in java

[wheat mesa]

I know pretty much no python other than basics, one day I’m sure I’ll have to learn it for build scripts and such

But until that day I refuse to touch python

[north cairn]

💀

[north cairn]

which app ur company/u made

[lyric mountain]

only 2 times I touched python were to make an automatic spotify ads skipper and an encryption executable

[north cairn]

i touched during my annual exmas like 2 weeks ago

[lyric mountain]

mostly to share sensitive files with my team over email

[north cairn]

very secret info 💀

[wheat mesa]

I have a Java certification pretest today (basically a test to see if you qualify for the school to pay for your full oracle Java certification exam)

[north cairn]

which class

[wheat mesa]

But the certification exam is so stupid

It’s all about archaic or obscure syntax and “will this compile” type shit, pretty much nothing actually related to programming

[north cairn]

i took ai for my 9th and 10th skill subject and prolly will take computer science in high school

[wheat mesa]

Just memorizing rules

[north cairn]

exam for that? 💀

[lyric mountain]

at least they didn't ask you to fix their printer

most programming exams are stupid anyway

[north cairn]

bruh lol

my bot got denied from top.gg coz of a silly mistake ah

i made a dm command and accidentally wrote "administrator perm needed"

[earnest phoenix]

Java fans when their Java certification isn't wrapped in 10 boxes on top of each other (reference to dir/dir/dir/dir/dir): ☠️

[north cairn]

and...

[lyric mountain]

they think a programmer needs to know if something will run or memorize functions and paradigms

while in real applications you leave all that to the IDE/compiler

[north cairn]

WELL DONE!

which country u guys from

usa right

ic

[lyric mountain]

brazil

[north cairn]

oh my

[wheat mesa]

US for me

[north cairn]

neymar fan for sure then?

idc i m cricket fan 🙂

[lyric mountain]

no, I hate soccer

[north cairn]

@wheat mesa "its football"

[topaz terrace]

why is my mongoDB findOne returning null even tho it is founded in the collection?

[lyric mountain]

show code please

[north cairn]

helloo

[topaz terrace]

https://sourceb.in/dcnL1jCj8J

member

[lyric mountain]

I suppose your findOne is the one in line 77?

or line 28?

[topaz terrace]

line 28

the line 77 was a test

to see if the await Users.findOne return the document with the member Id init

[lyric mountain]

from what I see it should only return null in the first time someone is warned

[topaz terrace]

ye

but i warned that test dude alot of times already

and it always insert a new document

do you wanna see the schema too?

https://sourceb.in/1Y0rh8ydG8

[north cairn]

jade u wrote that code combined in many langs?

[topaz terrace]

what

[lyric mountain]

don't think I know mongoose enough to understand a schema

[topaz terrace]

user storages

[north cairn]

that code written in js only or other lang used too

[topaz terrace]

theres a ton of document with the same id

[topaz terrace]

js

[lyric mountain]

you'll need someone else to help you with this one

[topaz terrace]

oh

ok

[north cairn]

@topaz terrace whats that platform u coding on

something new i saw

[topaz terrace]

replit

[deft wolf]

Thats mongoDB atlas

[topaz terrace]

what?

[deft wolf]

This one

[topaz terrace]

oh

what should i do

[elfin cape]

@topaz terrace what u want to do?

[topaz terrace]

im trying to this object inside a user.warnings array js { warnID: id, mod: message.author.id, reason: reason }but everytime i did that it always create a new document. when i log user it shows me null.

[deft wolf]

Is member.user.id the same as message.author.id?

[topaz terrace]

no, i don't think so

ye

its not

console.log(member.user.id === message.author.id)

[deft wolf]

Because you are creating a document with message.author.id as the id in database

[topaz terrace]

oh

wait

[elfin cape]

@deft wolf hey can u access the topgg api?

[topaz terrace]

wait

that works

thanks

[deft wolf]

Yea, api works

[elfin cape]

Like my vote tracker not working from last night

When the site gose down and till now

[hidden gorge]

#topgg-api

[wispy heath]

So I have a bot which has good amt of users . . . and am using aiomysql but recently am facing lots of error which are Failed to connect Connection timed out

Well I asked around and people are asking me to shift to mongodb but the thing is I have like 20 systems and shifting wont be easy as Ill have to almost recode 20 systems

What are your opinions?

To elaborate good amt of users ~ its more than a million users . . .

Ik not a big thing but kinda f up as it keeps crashing

[lyric mountain]

I'll ask you to move to postgres instead

Never heard about aiomysql, but there are probably better wrappers out there if u want to stay with mysql

If it's crashing it means you're not catching your promises, which leads to uncaught exceptions

Switching from sql to nosql is most of the time not worth it unless you'll be rewriting the entire codebase, and given you're dealing with users (so relationships) its more efficient to stay with sql

[slender wagon]

what does top.gg use to make that cool gradient on their site

that's some cool stuff

[spark flint]

well the site is chakra

[slender wagon]

hm?

chakra ui?

[spark flint]

ye

#ff336633

thats the top of the gradient

[slender wagon]

oh ok

[feral aspen]

Man, I hate Next.JS, it's confusing.

How come this is returning true in next build but returning false in next start -p 5000? (ternary operator)
https://cdn.hamoodihajjiri.com/swY1wMRHIZ

[lyric mountain]

@wheat mesa how did the test go?

[slender wagon]

i've encoutered plenty of issues while setting my project on prod

it's a nextjs thing to confuse u

apperantly the eslint rules become way more strick when you build it

[feral aspen]

Not sure why all the blog posts would disappear when I build and not during the development.

[feral aspen]

Apparently, during development, allBlogs.length > 0 returns true although during start, it returns false. I'm confused as to why.

[wheat mesa]

Went ok, may or may not have failed it. Not too worried because I have another attempt on Monday if I did fail

I only need to pass one of them

[lyric mountain]

btw, I continued the game project but got hooked by the project, ngl this is pretty fun to make

[wheat mesa]

Lol

Yeah using ECS is pretty fun to mess around with

[lyric mountain]

wdym by "ecs" btw?

[wheat mesa]

Entity component system

Every entity has a set of reusable behavior called components, which are updated by systems that iterate over the entities with specific components

My components in there are like the TransformComponent class, and the example systems are like the FontRenderSystem and PhysicsSystem (but I haven’t worked much on those yet since I’m working on getting the engine working before that)

[lyric mountain]

ah, that

[wheat mesa]

It’s basically what Unity uses

And many game engines have some form of it

It’s nice because the behavior is easy to reuse and it’s super fast and cache friendly

[lyric mountain]

@wheat mesa got it in a somewhat "done" state, wanna see it?

[wheat mesa]

Sure

[civic scroll]

fun fact: in this case you could have the condition as follow

allBlogs.length && !search.query.length && <.../>

[lyric mountain]

https://github.com/ygimenez/GameTest

made it in a different way, maybe went a bit too overboard lmao

oh wait, one of the files didn't commit

ok, now it's there

feel free to clone it to analyze or fork if u want, just learned how to use Semaphore in that project

was supposed to have a boss at round 10, but I suck at space invaders

[rustic nova]

this is mood

make game, shit at own game

[lyric mountain]

lmao

meh just noticed discord cut the gif short

[wheat mesa]

Looks really nice actually

Might try to make a similar clone of this using my engine to test it

[lyric mountain]

sure

[sterile vault]

i've just made the pr for the php-sdk
https://github.com/top-gg/php-sdk/pull/4

[rustic nova]

nicely done, making it object oriented also allows it to be used with more than 1 bot

[sterile vault]

thanks :D

[wheat mesa]

@lyric mountain I was the only one out of 53 students to pass my exam!!!

[lyric mountain]

niceee

[wheat mesa]

Lol

Barely passed it but still

Means the school will pay for my $500 certification exam when it comes to the real thing

Worth it

[solemn latch]

Really worth it. Good job

[wheat mesa]

thanks C:

[lament rock]

damn

1 out of 53

[hushed robin]

guys

how do i make canvas not leak my memory

[spark flint]

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that is a joke

[hushed robin]

flex tape 🤩

[topaz terrace]

why is this code: https://sourceb.in/rAIcZr3b54 showing that the fields cannot have an empty value

this is what i got

for commands2 log

afk - sets an AFK status
av - get an avatar of a user
dm - dm a member
help - displays all available commands.
lookup - look up a user with a specific discriminator!
membercount - shows current member count of the server.
say - say a certain word
ui userinfo - check for user information

kill - kill a member
sex - get sexual with a member

ban - ban a user.
banner - generate a banner with the user's name
kick - kick a user
lock - lock a channel
mute - mutes a user
nickname - nickname a user
purge - purge a certain number of messages in a channel
role - assign or remove a role from a user
serverinfo - displays server information
serverpfpset - sets the server profile picture.
slowmode - slowmode
s snipe - snipe a message
unban - unban a user
unlock - unlock a channel
unmute - unmute a user

[whole knot]

"s snipe"?

Oh, that looks like the argument

[topaz terrace]

s command.name and snipe is the command aliases

[spark flint]

sex - get sexual with a member
im not gonna ask what the commands are for this bot 😭

[topaz terrace]

i wanna try to add () for the aliases but i cant seem to do it

[topaz terrace]

totally not something suspicious

[hushed robin]

real question is why are you using message commands

[spark flint]

fr

also that

[topaz terrace]

because its a bit fast

[craggy pine]

slash commands are fast.

[hushed robin]

slash commands are faster

you don't need to read through every message sent

[topaz terrace]

uh

ok

[hushed robin]

but idk abt your actual issue tbh

doesn't it say whats missing

[topaz terrace]

its missing value

[hushed robin]

a value in what

[topaz terrace]

but i added commands 2 as the fields value

wait no

oh

[hushed robin]

field is empty

[topaz terrace]

hmm

[whole knot]

Yeah, was about to say that this is probably related to an empty field

[topaz terrace]

whyis there an empty array when i log commands

there shouldn't be any empty array

[hushed robin]

cus

your array is empty

[topaz terrace]

bruh

this is what i got from logging commands

[whole knot]

I would simply print something inside the loop to see if it's even doing what you want

[topaz terrace]

what i got for logging command inside the for loop

[hushed robin]

who knows

[topaz terrace]

how do i check if the string has a empty space?

[hushed robin]

wym

like if it equals a space?

[topaz terrace]

o

[hushed robin]

o

[topaz terrace]

oh

i forgot to add

the category object

inside the module.exports

[hushed robin]

💩

[hushed robin]

who knows pt. 2

[wheat mesa]

flex seal like bun said already

[hushed robin]

no

that only works with real life leaks 🤬

[hushed robin]

someone plssssssss help

[lyric mountain]

Hard innit, when the hands are no longer feeding

[hushed robin]

yes ☹️

😔

[topaz terrace]

why does this code: https://sourceb.in/cEOGXvTYgt warnID saying that it cannot be found in the database even tho it is already in the collection?

[sharp geyser]

Your code is contradicting itself

Is warnID a string or a number

also what exactly is warnIndex at the end of you using forEach

[topaz terrace]

oh

forget about it

i fixed it

but now

why is this code: https://sourceb.in/w5Xrjus4Wo not updating the updated user.warnings to the DataBase?

[sharp geyser]

Any errors?

[topaz terrace]

nope

[topaz terrace]

theres no error too

[hushed robin]

bump again

[earnest phoenix]

because you're using slice() instead of splice() to remove the warning. The slice() method does not modify the original array, while the splice() method does

Replace this line:

user.warnings.slice(warnIndex, 1);

With this line:

user.warnings.splice(warnIndex, 1);

[topaz terrace]

oh

[earnest phoenix]

mhm

[topaz terrace]

is ; optional?

why is it being used in JS?

[civic scroll]

to separate statements
even if you don't include it, the interpreter will automatically add it before JIT compilation

yes it's optional btw

without semicolons you can't put many statements in one line tho

[earnest phoenix]

Okay let's omit semicolons for a moment, tell me, what do you think happens if you run this?

const foo = 9 ** 5

(async () => {
  const bar = await someFunction(foo)

  for (const baz of bar)
    await someOtherFunction(baz)
})()

(Assuming that someFunction and someOtherFunction exists)

[civic scroll]

ReferenceError: someFunction is not defined\n\tat async (anonymous) (Message 4:21)

[earnest phoenix]

Or just even a minimal version:

const foo = 9 ** 5

(() => console.log(foo))()

[radiant kraken]

no semicolons >>>

@earnest phoenix i hate the fact that black enforces 4 spaces for indentation, and has no customization for it (https://github.com/psf/black/issues/378#issuecomment-400112373)

it also adds... trailing commas 🤮

[radiant kraken]

why would you put many statements in one line
average semicolon fan vs average no-semicolon enjoyer 😎

[earnest phoenix]

No, omitting semicolons doesn't even make the code cleaner and also makes it much harder for the parser to actually parse expressions and statements, every sane programming language will enforce you to use semicolons (almost every mainstream programming language enforces this) or at least automatically place missing semicolons as much as possible (JavaScript does this, see https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-automatic-semicolon-insertion)

[radiant kraken]

no semicolons look just way cleaner and faster to code imo

idk it's just personal preference

[earnest phoenix]

No customizability is literally the point of the Black formatter, it's supposed to bring "sensible" defaults as a configuration to bring consistency to all Python codebases, though yeah no customizability is generally frowned upon

[radiant kraken]

like imagine if prettier has no .prettierrc.json

[earnest phoenix]

Hopefully Google's YAPF Python formatter is going to solve this problem

[radiant kraken]

and forces users because yknow "iT cOmPlIeS wItH A sTaNdArD"

[earnest phoenix]

Would've been chaos

[radiant kraken]

or Linux with no rice

[earnest phoenix]

To be fair most Linux users don't even care about customizability to an extent of ricing, but it's good to have anyway

Unlike Windows and macOS that have limited customizability

[radiant kraken]

ill customize you

[earnest phoenix]

I'll rice you to a lovely extent

[civic scroll]

you are saying as if it puts JIT compiled js straight in your code editor

[radiant kraken]

trailing commas are cringe

imagine ```json
{
"a": 2,
"b": 3,
}

[civic scroll]

someone's ocd would like to disagree with this

[sturdy basalt]

i don't know why it's an issue. but it's an issue, and now seeing a trailing comma hurts me because it's an issue

[earnest phoenix]

what is your perspective on ASI's potential to inadvertently introduce bugs, given its reliance on certain heuristics and the potential for misinterpretation by developers (see https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-hazards-of-automatic-semicolon-insertion)
?

also, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on languages like Python that utilize whitespace and indentation for similar purposes; do you believe this approach is equally effective in ensuring clarity and ease of parsing, or do you maintain that semicolons are irreplaceable for achieving optimal code readability and parsing efficiency?

[earnest phoenix]

would certainly affect the code formatting process 💀

[earnest phoenix]

Going by the rules we've written to the ASI, the ASI cannot produce bugs if the user understands what expressions have relations to the others, such as function calls tracing back to the qualifier if it wasn't terminated with a semicolon

About misinterpretation by developers, if you're talking about the implementers of the programming language these are basic rules compared to all the others in the whole standard so it's highly unlikely for them to misinterpret it, but it can happen and it has for different areas of the standards, but this has happened for every programming language standard

Especially the grammars of the C++ programming language standard, such as templates which have puzzled implementers for a long time

[earnest phoenix]

Semicolons are indeed irreplaceable for the general purpose of ease of parsing and readability, utilizing whitespaces and indentation for contexts and scopes makes things much harder to parse as it involves trickier token consumption, lookbacks, and lookaheads, especially the trace backs which causes lots of problems because it has to ensure where specific grammars are allowed while also accounting for all the context and scope in such a manner

There's a reason why is breaks when mixing tabs and white spaces at the same time, parsing everything sucks

Yeah

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah your point is true regarding ASI and it's potential for producing bugs are reasonable. It's true that if a developer fully understands the rules governing ASI and the relationships between expressions, the likelihood of introducing bugs due to ASI would be minimal. Well It's understandable that, given the complexity of programming language standards, implementers might occasionally misinterpret specific rules or concepts, which has indeed occurred in various languages, including C++.

Btw, speaking of C++ and its challenging grammar, particularly in the realm of templates, I'm curious about your thoughts on concepts, a feature introduced in C++20 to enhance template programming (https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/constraints). Do you think Concepts effectively address some of the complexities and pitfalls that have long troubled C++ developers and implementers? Considering the importance of readable and well-structured code, do you believe that the use of Concepts can improve overall code quality, or do you think their adoption might introduce new challenges and potential misunderstandings among developers?

[earnest phoenix]

indeed

[earnest phoenix]

It's evident that relying solely on whitespace and indentation for managing contexts and scopes can introduce complexities in the parsing process, including challenges with token consumption, lookbacks, and lookaheads, as well as the need for intricate tracebacks to ensure correct grammar interpretation

[earnest phoenix]

Mhm yeah thanks, about your perspective for semicolons, indentation, and whitespace in programming languages. Your perspective on the trade-offs between languages like Python and those that use semicolons and braces for scope delimitation offer valuable context for understanding the complexities involved in designing a programming language's syntax. It's clear that striking a balance between readability, ease of parsing, and maintainability is crucial for a language's success and user adoption. 🤷

[earnest phoenix]

C++ concepts are pretty useful and have been getting adopted by the developers all around, it helps with multiple cases of type deduction and selection, boundary checks, and such, but it also introduces even more grammar complexities especially considering how incredibly complex C++'s overall grammar is, given that they can also be used with templates and a new requires clause, it makes it hard to implement properly, this caused multiple front-end (the front-end is the parser, AST builder, and everything similar) issues in our Clang compiler but we've fixed them though there are a few more to be fixed

[earnest phoenix]

It's not surprising that some areas still need attention. Addressing these concerns might involve refining the implementation of concepts to ensure correct parsing and handling of complex grammar combinations, improving diagnostics to provide clearer error messages, and optimizing the compilation process to prevent potential performance degradation due to the increased complexity. Providing thorough documentation and examples (real) to guide developers in using concepts effectively can help reduce misunderstandings and promote best practices

[earnest phoenix]

Correct, it's funny that some parts of the C++ programming language standard (especially it's grammars) are so complex that we had to step up and not only report issues to the C++ Standard Committee (of ISO), but also fix a few mistakes that made us (the implementers) confused for many weeks

Though we have multiple people who are members of the C++ Standard Committee in our implementers group so it becomes easier to spot issues

Considering that we're also a group of 2,000+ implementers...

[earnest phoenix]

It's indeed fascinating how the complexity of the C++ programming language standard, particularly its grammars, has led to a situation where implementers not only report issues to the C++ Standard Committee but also actively contribute to fixing mistakes that have caused confusion. It's a testament to the collaborative nature of the programming community and the shared goal of improving language standards and tools for everyone

Having members of the C++ Standard Committee within your group of implementers undoubtedly makes it easier to spot issues and maintain a strong connection between language development and real-world implementation. With 2,000 implementers working together, it's evident that there's a wealth of knowledge and experience being shared, which greatly benefits the continuous improvement and evolution of the C++ language and its ecosystem

Yep, absolutely

[radiant kraken]

great essays

@earnest phoenix wait you're a member of the C++ standard committee?

[earnest phoenix]

No, I'm a member of the LLVM Developer Group, in this case I was talking about our Clang compiler and how we implement the C/C++ programming languages, hence we're the implementers

But we do have multiple members of the C++ Standard Committee in our group

Though I might become a member of the C++ Standard Committee

[radiant kraken]

if you do pls add a package manager to c++ thx

i don't want to read docs from 2001 just to install something

god making cross-platform programs in C++ is borderline impossible

[earnest phoenix]

Well, package managers have nothing to do with the standard of a programming language, the user-land (users) implement one for convenience but I'm not sure how incredibly complex it would be to make a C/C++ package/dependency manager

[radiant kraken]

yeah

the Makefiles, CMakefiles, specific compiler flags for specific OSes and Architectures, behaviors of specific compilers, requirement for a dependency to be installed first...

it's a giant mess

[earnest phoenix]

Though https://vcpkg.io/ exists but it's definitely not great

[radiant kraken]

yeah

and several other package managers

like Chocolatey, Conan, etc

@earnest phoenix this screams Rust traits to me

[earnest phoenix]

It pretty much is a Rust trait

See https://youtu.be/E-2y1qHQvTg if you want a thorough comparison

i'ma create a Rust version of your protonug

I would like to see you do that

[radiant kraken]

i have been planning of rewriting protonug in Rust but i don't understand on how to do the tar part

again i'm not experienced in working with tar.gz files

@earnest phoenix if you do pls dont use reqwest thanks

[earnest phoenix]

I won't

[earnest phoenix]

I mean, https://crates.io/crates/tar exists

I'll use surf

[radiant kraken]

again i'm not experienced in working with tar.gz files

also i use a Windows machine

so i can't test it

[radiant kraken]

cringe

native-tls my beloved

[earnest phoenix]

All you need to do is just extract a TAR file to a specific location in the file system which that crate handles 👀

[earnest phoenix]

https://www.onworks.net/os-distributions/ubuntu-based

[radiant kraken]

nah

i'll just refactor sanz's code

or just learn Rust yourself

become one of us

[earnest phoenix]

yeah just refactor my code

I don't know that shit

[radiant kraken]

[earnest phoenix]

Ah hell naw, I'll only make others learn it so they become catgirls enjoy modern low-level programming

:^)

[uneven tartan]

winrar and 7zip handle these i think

[earnest phoenix]

They need to do it programmatically in Rust

[radiant kraken]

@uneven tartan

hi hi

[loud canopy]

I want to like thirty thousand credits and I need help. Can you help me?

[deft wolf]

With what exactly?

[loud canopy]

Buy a server

[deft wolf]

What kind of server?

[loud canopy]

عربي؟

[uneven tartan]

hi :D

[loud canopy]

| (• ◡•)|

I have 30k left, can you give it to me? @deft wolf

[radiant kraken]

hruuu :)

[uneven tartan]

tired

[deft wolf]

I don't understand what you want from me

[lyric mountain]

I still don't get what they're trying to say

[loud canopy]

I want credit

[deft wolf]

What credits and what does this have to do with any programming?

[uneven tartan]

probably trolling ignore them

[lyric mountain]

are topgg credits (if that's what they mean) even transferrable?

[radiant kraken]

:(

why are you always tired

[uneven tartan]

cuz sleep schedule borked

[radiant kraken]

damn

[earnest phoenix]

@radiant kraken
https://github.com/pneb/rust-protonug

[earnest phoenix]

indian tech scam be like

[radiant kraken]

send a pr to @earnest phoenix's repo

also don't forget to credit Voltrex as the original developer

[earnest phoenix]

mb

[radiant kraken]

i'm too busy rn, will refactor later

[earnest phoenix]

what repo

[radiant kraken]

look at his github

[earnest phoenix]

okay

[radiant kraken]

also @earnest phoenix instead of .ok_or(STRING_LITERAL)? you can use .expect(STRING_LITERAL)

it would panic instead of passing it into a Box<dyn Error>

you should try out things like clippy

[earnest phoenix]

permission denied

[earnest phoenix]

I'll change it later

bro Replit is shit

can't even use the git command properly

[radiant kraken]

why are you using Replit

[earnest phoenix]

just turned off my computer

[radiant kraken]

did you rewrite protonug in Replit

[earnest phoenix]

nah

I'm on my computer earlier

fuck this bro

this new Replit authentication update is shit

[earnest phoenix]

no code

[neon leaf]

you didnt show code

[earnest phoenix]

That's very nice, good job

[spark flint]

i feel like this is the worst place to ask

because thats for another bot list

also you did ```
"url"

true

[neon leaf]

let x: string | string[]

x = Array.from(x)

// x should now always be an array of all strings in x, basically string -> [string] & [string, string] -> [string, string], right?

[earnest phoenix]

Also consider not using Axios, because it contains lots of bloat and is a source of very strange errors, use something like https://undici.nodejs.org/

Hey! I wanna learn making bots. What language is recommended and where do I start?

[sudden geyser]

The most popular languages are JavaScript and Python

Python for bots has somewhat waned over the years but it's still very popular

If you'd like to start with JavaScript Discord.js is the most popular library for that

See https://discord.js.org/

Of course, it depends on what you're making

[earnest phoenix]

Okay I understand that. But it's just I- I don't know where to begin.. I tried it sometime. I wanna make a multipurpose bot. Like for example something with a embed builder. Reaction roles etc. I mean it doesn't matter what I make. I'm just very interested in discord bots 😄

[sudden geyser]

I'd recommend by starting with some tutorial on how to use one of the languages

[earnest phoenix]

Are you familiar with any programming languages?

[sudden geyser]

Then you can use one of the libraries for the language to build something

There are many guides online on how to add certain functionality to bots when programming

So most of your time will probably be spent learning how to apply stuff

[earnest phoenix]

Not really. I have rewritten from videos. But i'm not familiar.

Then yeah do what Klay said, pick a beginner friendly programming language like JavaScript or Python and look up guides for them, spend time to learn it's basics and fundamentals, and finally choose a Discord API library made for the programming language you've learned and make a Discord bot with it

[slender wagon]

uuh what do i do if there is conflict between react versions on a library i am trying to install

[spark flint]

--force

[sudden geyser]

when/where does the conflict occur

[earnest phoenix]

I'm not sure what you're trying to actually ask here, it's type will just be string[]

[slender wagon]

is there a more non-brutal way

[spark flint]

not that i know of

i get conflict errors with next.js and libs using react 17

--force is what fixes it for me

[slender wagon]

all i am trying to do is @material-ui/core

[earnest phoenix]

Can you show the actual conflict errors you're encountering?

[slender wagon]

npm i @material-ui/core
npm ERR! code ERESOLVE
npm ERR! ERESOLVE unable to resolve dependency tree
npm ERR!
npm ERR! While resolving: @0.1.0
npm ERR! Found: react@18.2.0
npm ERR! node_modules/react
npm ERR! react@"18.2.0" from the root project
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Could not resolve dependency:
npm ERR! peer react@"^16.8.0 || ^17.0.0" from @material-ui/core@4.12.4
npm ERR! node_modules/@material-ui/core
npm ERR! @material-ui/core@"*" from the root project
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Fix the upstream dependency conflict, or retry

[earnest phoenix]

Then you'll either have to use React 17 or contribute to @material-ui/core to update it's React version to 18, or you can use the --force (-f for short) CLI flag to force installation but it can be broken

[slender wagon]

it already broke so i'll try to install react 17

i found something on stackoverflow

npm install @mui/material @emotion/react @emotion/styled --legacy-peer-deps
npm install @mui/icons-material --legacy-peer-deps

[neon flicker]

Voltrex, how long have you been working with programming?

I'm just wondering

[sharp geyser]

Voltrex is as old as dirt ngl

[earnest phoenix]

For about 7 years

[crystal furnace]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/invite#invite-resource I am viewing DiscordAPI about invites, there is no method that we can use to know the source that people use to join our server (like Twitter, Youtube, ...), but I don't understand why some Discord bot like Invitelogger can do that?

[earnest phoenix]

Discord doesn't provide a way to know the source of the invites at all, what some of those bots do is guesswork, they regularly keep track of what invites were created and watch which of the invites' uses get incremented when someone joins the server, there's no guaranteed way to know this

As for external sources like YouTube, Twitter, and whatnot, the bots might be creating a custom link that points to the invite, and keeps count of how many people visit it's custom link

[slender wagon]

can i push data to my mongo database with the api of nextjs?

[deft wolf]

I had the code for invitelogging in v12, I have no idea if it would work on v14

From what I remember, I found this code on github just because I needed something to learn mongodb

[slender wagon]

?

[deft wolf]

https://github.com/FrancisLaTruelle/InviteManagerMongoDB

This one iirc

[neon leaf]

so Im trying to make a radio mp3 that when you access it goes through all files in the songs folder, it works for the first song, it gets played fine but at the second one nothing gets transmitted anymore, why?
https://pastes.dev/Z5EN70lvYr

like throttle.on('data', console.log) will spam on the first song but send literally nothing on the second one

[hushed robin]

help

[lyric mountain]

it's been 3 days already, by that time you'd already have solved it if u even tried

hardly anyone will answer, because those who could answer were stepped onto by you

[hushed robin]

it's been less than 24 hours

❓

[lyric mountain]

^

since then nobody answered a single question

[hushed robin]

i don't need help with that anyone

figured it out myself

[wheat mesa]

figure this one out yourself too

[hushed robin]

no

this one is too hard

[wheat mesa]

sucks to be you then

[hushed robin]

fr 😭

😤

[wheat mesa]

I thought there were so many other people out there to help you

ask one of them

[hushed robin]

there is

i probably should ask in another guild 🙍‍♂️

but imma try here first

[wheat mesa]

^

[hushed robin]

so

i can still ask 😘

[slender wagon]

why is dotenv such a strugle with nextjs

[cloud relic]

its been about 3 weeks or so for my bot to get approved, should i keep waiting or contact

[spark flint]

you submitted 10 days ago

not been 2 weeks yet

[wheat mesa]

love it when 3 weeks = 9 days

breaking news: the definition of a week is now 3 days

[sharp geyser]

Youre behind this came out in the March 2023 update

[hushed robin]

who knows 😤

[sharp geyser]

Google knows

[hushed robin]

google does not know

☹️

[sharp geyser]

It does cause I just googled and found a possible solution though it’s completely unknown whether it’s relevant to you since you provide no fucking code

[hushed robin]

send solution

🥺

[sharp geyser]

No

[hushed robin]

🤨😢😭

[sharp geyser]

You google it yourself if I can do it then you can

It was literally my first result as well

[hushed robin]

what did you google

[sharp geyser]

Exactly what you’re asking

[hushed robin]

i don't see a solution

[crystal furnace]

Oh Thanks for your explain

[radiant kraken]

@earnest phoenix is it possible to turn ```py
def a(b):
if c:
return True

```py
def a(b):
  if c:
    return True
``` by just using Regex substitution/replace?

nvm ```py

equivalent to x.replace(/(\n| {4})? {4}/, y => y[0] === '\n' ? '\n ', ' ')

re.sub(r'(\n| {4})? {4}', lambda y: ' ' if y.group()[0] != '\n' else '\n ', x)

[earnest phoenix]

can be like this:

# equivalent to x.replace(/((?:^|\n)) {4}/g, '$1  ')
re.sub(r'((?:^|\n)) {4}', r'\1  ', x)

[radiant kraken]

what does ?: do

or that whole (?:^|\n)

also why double brackets

[earnest phoenix]

?: is a part of a non-capturing group in regex. It allows you to group expressions without capturing the matched content

(?:^|\n) means either the start of the string (^) or a newline character (\n) but doesn't capture the matched part

[earnest phoenix]

because they are used to define the non-capturing group and the outer group. The outer group ((?:^|\n)) is a capturing group to include both the start of the string or newline character followed by four spaces. This helps to replace the matched part with the desired content while keeping the (^|\n) part intact

[radiant kraken]

what about \1?

what's that all about

[earnest phoenix]

it's a backreference in regex. It refers to the content matched by the first capturing group. In this case, the first capturing group is ((?:^|\n)), which matches either the start of the string (^) or a newline character (\n)

so when using re.sub(r'((?:^|\n)) {4}', r'\1 ', x), the \1 in the replacement string will be replaced with the matched content from the first capturing group, either (^|\n). This helps preserve the (^|\n) part while replacing four spaces with two spaces in the string

all good?

[radiant kraken]

not yet

my mind needs to process your highly technical explanations

i don't what you just said and am just gonna copy-paste your code anyway

thanks

[earnest phoenix]

after my preacher curl, I'll explain it more

[hushed robin]

🥺

[radiant kraken]

@earnest phoenix why tf is Python's default encoding ASCII

that's probably the worst default encoding to use in your programming language

[rustic nova]

Lol

Glad copilot does the utf-8 passing for me so i never bothered

[radiant kraken]

UTF-8 >>>

based encoding

[rustic nova]

UTF-16 doe

Actually what's the purpose of UTF-16

Just larger charset?

[radiant kraken]

fixed-width bytes maybe

instead of variable-width

[rustic nova]

Yeah probably

[radiant kraken]

UTF-16 is good tbh but endianness ruins it 😭

[rustic nova]

Though tbf, dont think you'd use UTF-16 unless you're providing international applications that allow content that is non-alphabetical

alphanumerical*

[radiant kraken]

people still use UTF-16 because Windows still use it

[rustic nova]

Well Windows is a special case on everything

🗿

[earnest phoenix]

Python™️

[neon leaf]

how can I remove a listener from a eventEmitter? it has alot of listeners on the same event so I need to delete a precise one (nodejs)

[earnest phoenix]

you can remove a specific listener from an event by using the removeListener method. first, you need to reference the listener function that you want to remove. here's an example:

const EventEmitter = require('events');
const myEventEmitter = new EventEmitter();

// define your listener function
const myListener = (message) => {
  console.log(`received: ${message}`);
};

// add the listener to the event
myEventEmitter.on('myEvent', myListener);

// emit the event
myEventEmitter.emit('myEvent', 'hello world!');

// remove the listener from the event
myEventEmitter.removeListener('myEvent', myListener);

// emit the event again (but the listener is already removed)
myEventEmitter.emit('myEvent', 'no output this time');

the myListener function is added and then removed from the 'myEvent' event. After the listener is removed, emitting the event again won't have any output.

[neon leaf]

thanks!

[earnest phoenix]

[neon leaf]

this should be correct then, right?

[earnest phoenix]

oh my god the formatting

and missing types

const endRequest = options?.endRequest ?? true;
const destroyAbort = options?.destroyAbort ?? true;

ctx.waiting = true;

const dataListener = (data: Buffer) => {
  if (!Buffer.isBuffer(data)) {
    data = Buffer.from(data);
  }
  res.write(data, 'binary');

  ctg.data.outgoing.total += data.byteLength;
  ctg.data.outgoing[ctx.previousHours[4]] += data.byteLength;
};

const closeListener = () => {
  if (endRequest) {
    ctx.events.emit('nowaiting');
  }
};

if (destroyAbort) {
  ctx.events.once('endRequest', () => stream.destroy());
}

stream
  .on('data', dataListener)
  .once('close', closeListener);

ctx.events.once('endRequest', () => {
  stream
    .removeListener('data', dataListener)
    .removeListener('close', closeListener);
});

yeah it's correct

[neon leaf]

this code will run alot of times, will it still work if that exact code applied an event listener a few times before already, aka will it always remove the listener it actually created?

[earnest phoenix]

yeah

when you add a listener using stream.on('data', dataListener) and later remove it with stream.removeListener('data', dataListener), it will only remove the specific listener that was added in the same scope

[neon leaf]

ok, good

thanks again

[neon leaf]

do you know what could cause my "radio" aka an audio that looks for local files and plays them together though a website (https://pastes.dev/zIJcB65D3D) doesnt work on some specific audio files? like I have 2 rn that work without issues and loop infinitely but some other ones are from the same creator but dont work and when they switch to one of the non working ones it does a small sound & then you need to refresh for it to work? like generally what do I need to look for

[earnest phoenix]

I have a question for everyone:
I need a bot who can manage clans and is easy to use for newbies. Do you guys have something like that?

[deft wolf]

No

[earnest phoenix]

:[

[earnest phoenix]

how to remove status bot like this

[deft wolf]

Something like

client.user.setStatus('online');

?

[rustic nova]

thats an application, not actually a bot

these do not have online-statuses

http-based bots

[crystal wigeon]

Hey guys so im trying use the <t:1679077771114:R>

but it says its <t:1679077771114:R> which is wrong, when i use new date i get this - Fri Mar 17 2023 23:59:31 GMT+0530 (India Standard Time)

am i supposed to use UTC ms?

[rustic nova]

seconds from epoch

divide it by 1000 and round it

you're currently using milliseconds from epoch, which is incorrect

[crystal wigeon]

gotcha

thanks

[earnest phoenix]

Thanks

[radiant kraken]

@earnest phoenix is GitHub Wiki good for writing documentation

or can you recommend something else

[earnest phoenix]

GitHub Wiki is good enough though most people don't look at the wikis since they don't expect documentation to be there

[radiant kraken]

so what should i use

[earnest phoenix]

What are you writing documentation for?

[radiant kraken]

my python library

[rustic nova]

Ngl

Gitbook is better

[radiant kraken]

i've seen other python devs use readthedocs.io

https://readthedocs.org/

[dry imp]

thats true

[rustic nova]

Python-libraries always tend to use readthedocs lmao

[radiant kraken]

what about JS library devs

like most of the time they would just straight up make their own website

[earnest phoenix]

You should use that for Python libraries

[radiant kraken]

^

i have one TypeScript library and it's undocumented for months now

[earnest phoenix]

You can either write up a website and host it with GitHub Pages (recommended), document everything in the README.md, or write it in GitHub Wiki

[radiant kraken]

but people never use GitHub Wikis

also it's hard to automate a GitHub Wiki

[earnest phoenix]

People do use GitHub Wiki, but mostly for FAQs and instructions, or similar

A very good example of this would be https://github.com/Automattic/node-canvas/wiki

But yeah you shouldn't use it for documentation

[radiant kraken]

why

[earnest phoenix]

Because as I said, people most of the time don't expect the documentation to be in the wiki

And as you said, automating GitHub Wiki is not easy

[radiant kraken]

@earnest phoenix to be honest, is documentation really necessary when you already have docstrings?

like you can just rely on IDEs to display them

[rigid maple]

Can I play the audio played on one channel simultaneously on another channel using another bot?

I will use 2 bots, 1st bot will listen to the sounds on the channel and transfer them to the other bot, and the 2nd bot will play the incoming sounds simultaneously.

[frigid robin]

Any way I can make pycharm understand the references (with CTRL+B) from cog functions?

[swift tusk]

How can I get info if someone voted for my bot (webhook, etc)

[lyric mountain]

the webhook will receive a vote notification whenever someone votes automatically

you just need to set it up

[rigid maple]

anyone have an idea ?

[tulip ledge]

Sounds like something that could be used with malicious intent not sure if it’s ok for discord tos but you could use a recording library (if that exists) and send it through an api to your second bot

@rigid maple

[tulip ledge]

Not everyone uses ide’s to write code

[rigid maple]

i already do this but how can i make it synchronous

[tulip ledge]

You mean instantly?

Or what do you mean make your code synchronous?

[rigid maple]

yes, it is spoken on one channel, I want to pretend that it is spoken on the other channel instantly.

sorry for my bad english

[tulip ledge]

Stream it

[cursive musk]

Stupid question

But why is the "profile views" not showing up? I've tried like the top 3 and none of them work.

[sudden geyser]

can you link where you put that

[cursive musk]

wdym?

[sudden geyser]

as in can you paste the url of the page you're on

I assume it's github

[cursive musk]

yeah

for my profile page

[sudden geyser]

you seem to already use markdown images via the syntax so I don't see why it wouldn't be working

and it works for me on a markdown tester (though it's commonmark and not github's flavor)

or maybe

[cursive musk]

yeah idk

<details> 
    
  <summary>💻 GitHub Profile Stats</summary>
  <br/>
    <p align = "center"><img src="https://github-readme-stats.vercel.app/api?username=ishaantek&show_icons=true&theme=tokyonight" /></p>

<p align="center"> <img src="https://github-readme-stats.vercel.app/api/top-langs/?username=ishaantek&layout=compact&theme=blueberry" /></p>
  <br/>
  <b>Note:</b> Top languages is only a metric of the languages my public code consists of and doesn't reflect experience or skill level.
   <br>
![Profile views](https://gpvc.arturio.dev/ishaantek)
  <br/>
    
</details>

[sudden geyser]

yeah I know why now

[cursive musk]

?

[sudden geyser]

you have markdown inside html

so it's just going to render it as text

[cursive musk]

ohh

[sudden geyser]

since you want aligning you're better off using <img> with alt=...

[cursive musk]

<p><img src="https://gpvc.arturio.dev/ishaantek" alt="Profile views"></p>

[sudden geyser]

yes

[cursive musk]

Something like that right?

Thanks!

[hushed robin]

🙌who knows, i need my memory to stop being leaked

[hushed robin]

ditch node?

[wheat mesa]

You’ve been nonstop asking for the last 48 hours, I think it’s pretty clear nobody is going to answer you

Especially because you (as usual) have given no details on your issue other than “how do I stop this”

[hushed robin]

waffle stop replying if you have no answer

I need an answer you’ve said the same thing 3 times

[wheat mesa]

Stop asking questions if you’re not going to give details required to answer them

[hushed robin]

what details bro

[lyric mountain]

Imagine if memo leak was as easy as finding a hole in a boat

[hushed robin]

☹️fr

it'd be easier to fix too\

[lyric mountain]

Besides, I don't think "memory leak" means what you think it means

[hushed robin]

it doesssssssss

my bot is constantly restarting because it's hitting 200mb of memory usage

which is very high

[lyric mountain]

...yk anything image-related is going to put you over a few tens of mb right?

Anyway, that's as far as I'll go, up to you to solve it

[hushed robin]

😢

stop replying if you can’t help

(one sec trying to find the emoji)

😤

if anyone knows pls spam me with pings

[lyric mountain]

Except I didn't reply, did I?

I made a comment on waffle's message

Besides, I'm free to answer as I see fit, you can make a new post on stackoverflow if you want only serious answers

[wheat mesa]

200mb is literally nothing in js, plus you don’t even know if the “leak” is coming from canvas anyways because I highly doubt you even tried ANYTHING to confirm that

[lament rock]

good luck trying to read heapsnapshots

[hushed robin]

you did

you made useless comments that didn’t help ☹️

[hushed robin]

I do know that it is

memory only starts rapidly increasing when I use the commands that use canvas

[wheat mesa]

Crazy

Debug it yourself then

[vocal igloo]

would anyone be able to help me figure out some code, possibly thru pseudo code, for how to "properly" update bot stats via the api? (using node.js)

[hushed robin]

I tried that’s why I’m asking for assistance 🙄

If you don’t wanna help then don’t reply

smh

[wheat mesa]

^

[lyric mountain]

I only replied to you when you replied to me

Before that I commented on waffle's

As I said, go to stackoverflow if you want serious answers, otherwise tank it

We tanked your comments before

Btw waffle, how's the game going?

[earnest phoenix]

just don't talk to Battleless

he's hopeless

[wheat mesa]

Haven’t finished the engine yet, haven’t had the time to work on it since you helped me lol

[vocal igloo]

tbh i just tried looking back thru messages and the only thing i saw was the channel description

[hushed robin]

no

[earnest phoenix]

nah he keeps trolling into people

last 2 days ago, yesterday, earlier, and now

[lyric mountain]

If u need help feel free to ask, if it wasn't for you I'd never learn why semaphores are used lul

[hushed robin]

asking for help = trolling 🤯

[vocal igloo]

ikik what i meant was the troll of not following the description thats all 🙂

[earnest phoenix]

i see

[vocal igloo]

what are semaphores?

[earnest phoenix]

sure

[lyric mountain]

It's basically a "ticket" system used for managing multithreaded tasks

Like, if you make a semaphore with 4 slots you cannot have 5 threads executing the same thing

[wheat mesa]

It kinda means “only this many threads can access this data at a time”

[lyric mountain]

Until a thread returns the ticket

Imagine like a bus

[vocal igloo]

ahh so basicallly talk to other processes that could be on a different thread

[vocal igloo]

similar to CAN network?

[lyric mountain]

Not exactly, it's more like a way to reserve a spot in processing something

Idk what's CAN

[hushed robin]

yay you unblocked me 😘

[lyric mountain]

Imagine this:

• You make a semaphore with 2 spots
• You create 10 threads and make them execute something, each claiming a spot in the semaphore

[vocal igloo]

i have no idea how to explain it properly but basically its a bus to allow multiple things to talk to each other (thats how it was explained to me)

[lyric mountain]

The first 2 threads will be able to claim it, while the other 8 will be put in a queue

[earnest phoenix]

yeah you're really an hopeless dude

[hushed robin]

😞

[lyric mountain]

So until one of the threads return a spot, no other thread will be able to claim one

[hushed robin]

why

[vocal igloo]

ok i see,

[lyric mountain]

This guarantees you don't get a ton of threads doing the same thing

In the project I did I used it for preventing CMEs

[vocal igloo]

this may or may not make sense to you but it sounds like pooling for DB

[lyric mountain]

Since the render thread cannot use the entities set at the same time its thing modified by the simulation

[earnest phoenix]

asking a question, then not believing or accepting the answers, and not treating the helper with respect 🤷

[hushed robin]

bruh

[lyric mountain]

Very very close to that

[hushed robin]

no one gave me an answer

[vocal igloo]

that makes way more sense

im still getting used to it and am in the process of redoing my bad earlier code and man its been a trip lol

[lyric mountain]

The only difference is that semaphores aren't necessarily synchronized, since 2 or more threads can have a spot

[earnest phoenix]

a guy who is very hopeless and helpless and who goes up to people every day to start stupid fights

[hushed robin]

I’ve been trying to find an answer got days my bots performance is being very hurt from canvas memory leaks that I can’t fix

[earnest phoenix]

lmfao, I'm done with this guy

[lyric mountain]

While queues are synchronized (only one task at any moment is being executed)

[hushed robin]

I’ve never started a fight with anyone

[vocal igloo]

interesting

[hushed robin]

I just want help

☹️

[earnest phoenix]

last time, he's into Sayuri, then into me, then into someone else, then into KuuHaKu now

😂

[hushed robin]

me and kuuhaku aren’t fighting

[lyric mountain]

Nah, my time was several days ago

[earnest phoenix]

oh then

[lyric mountain]

Now I use the teachings of Sun Tzu

"The best fight is the one you don't need to fight"

And "If the enemy is doing a mistake, don't tell them they are"

[hushed robin]

do you guys have another good js server I can ask for help

[earnest phoenix]

lmfaoo

[hushed robin]

what’a funny

[earnest phoenix]

basically he's mentally destroying and trolling everybody he talks to

[hushed robin]

bro what

what does that have to do with a js setver

[earnest phoenix]

talk to a brick wall, but I'm leaving you here

[vocal igloo]

i looked for your past 48+ hr messages regarding the issue and there are key details missing which are preventing me(or anyone) from helping. you are asking for help but are not clarifying. memory leaks can range from many items and can be blinded. for example, im missing info like the package name, library your using, steps you tried already, what you have been told. and i dont mean "well this guy said blah but didnt give link"... sorry you wont get the help you want with out all details

[hushed robin]

👋 bye

[earnest phoenix]

u ain't no worth my time 😉

[earnest phoenix]

• pot stirring

[lyric mountain]

Btw wonder if I can make the game multiplayer

Shouldn't be too hard ig, I just need a main menu

[vocal igloo]

what game u making kuuhaku? and what engine u doing?

[lyric mountain]

It's the side project i did earlier, it's a space invaders-like game

[hushed robin]

package: node canvas
what I already tried: googling things about memory leaks on node canvas and couldn’t find anything ☹️

[earnest phoenix]

why not code your own engine and use it Kuu

[lyric mountain]

^

Meh I pinged myself

[lyric mountain]

Kinda did

[earnest phoenix]

u gotta watch jdh on YouTube

[vocal igloo]

next steps; redefine your search. if you dont know what i mean, you are looking for a cookie cutter answer which wont help in the long run.
also thats the only package being used? highly doubtable

[lyric mountain]

Jdh?

[vocal igloo]

i assume against AI bots for now?

[hushed robin]

why would you doubt that?

[lyric mountain]

Not exactly "AI", just brainless enemies that shoot continuously and have varied movements

[earnest phoenix]

yeah, he's completely writing games on scratch, and writing a new engine just to run his game

[vocal igloo]

because from what i assume its a discord bot? written in node, so must have discord.js, eris, etc some other library aiding

[earnest phoenix]

some were made on Assembly

[lyric mountain]

Naaaah thank you, chris sawyer was enough for a millenium

[hushed robin]

yes discord.js but that isn’t causing it

[earnest phoenix]

oh alright then

[vocal igloo]

lol i always refer to bots as AI even if not true AI\

[earnest phoenix]

who the fuck is Tom Sawyer

[lyric mountain]

Chris, not tom

It's the guy who made RCT

[earnest phoenix]

ah

[lyric mountain]

99% assembly, 1% C

[earnest phoenix]

a Tycoon game

[earnest phoenix]

😳

[lyric mountain]

And the most succesful game in the century

And that shit doesn't even have bugs

Idk, he was just born different

[earnest phoenix]

insane

[vocal igloo]

but yet again i refer to what i said earlier, missing details; i was working off of assumptions. not the best of ways to look for help. lots of downtime cause by that. Discord,js is known for memory problems as well depending on the version. node canvas also known for problem. is there bad code? for example variables that lead to nothing, endless operations, proper try catch?

[lyric mountain]

It's like the Holy C guy

[vocal igloo]

the life lmao

[lyric mountain]

Idk how or why they one day woke up and thought "meh, imma make an insane project today"

[hushed robin]

I said earlier that the memory issues only start occurring when I run the command that uses canvas

and my code is pretty barebones

[vocal igloo]

thats most of my projects, im just like i wanna do blank or i wanna learn blank so i start doing it... now that project may or may not see daylight but i can at least say i tried lol

[lyric mountain]

Lmao average day in a dev life

A huge pile of started projects that may or may not be resumed

[vocal igloo]

again i refer to what i said earlier, bland information is almost like no information at all. for example code is pretty barebones could mean everything is coded correctly or could mean i forgot one simple catch statement

[lyric mountain]

But it's essential to have one, else you lose interest and get out of touch

[vocal igloo]

im going thru and cleaning my old ones

[hushed robin]

how would a catch statement prevent a memory leak?

there’s nothing to catch

[vocal igloo]

you're focusing on the wrong thing, im using that as an example not what to do

[lyric mountain]

They don't get examples btw, it's always taken literally

[vocal igloo]

im aware dw

[hushed robin]

what wrong thing

by bare bones I mean if I remove one thing in my code it won’t create what I want it to

there’s nothing extra

[vocal igloo]

ill refer to what i said earlier, you are looking for the cookie cutter answer which you wont get.

as far as the wrong thing this could be a misused method, wrong variable assignment, redundant code, etc.

[wheat mesa]

“But I need it done for me 🥺”

[hushed robin]

nothing is wrong in my code

🤨

[vocal igloo]

assuming nothing is wrong is your first mistake; every coder almost always has something wrong

[hushed robin]

im not assuming

I’ve checked over my code many times

[lyric mountain]

Not with a profiler, I suppose

Or reading a thread dump (does js even have this?)

[vocal igloo]

not a easy one as far as i know

u have to use chrome i think/something similiar

[hushed robin]

is this directed to me?

[vocal igloo]

are the image proportions the correct ratio? @hushed robin

[hushed robin]

what do you mean by that?

what’s the correct ratio

[vocal igloo]

for canvas/any image processing program, wrong ratios can cause memory spikes

you can read about it on this thread: https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/issues/11378 You will NOT find solution here

[lyric mountain]

Narrator: "And they went looking for solutions there"

[vocal igloo]

why did i read that in a dreamworks voice

[lyric mountain]

[hushed robin]

i don't know what this means

[vocal igloo]

if you dont know what it means, then that means you have research todo sadly.. it takes time but is needed so you know what you are doing; I.e. lookup what you dont understand

[hushed robin]

i don't like doing research 😔

what do i google

[vocal igloo]

as some great people have told me, Too bad; i wont do your job for you so time to learn

as for what to google split your inquires for what you want to look up

examples could be something like "what is <term to look up>?", "how does <blank> affect <blank>?

[hushed robin]

damn

thanks for the help

i think imma just let it slide tho cus it sounds too advance for me

[wheat mesa]

Asks for help
Immediately rejects any help because it’s too hard

This is why we don’t like helping you 🤦‍♂️

[earnest phoenix]

BRO FINALLY WAFFLE SAID THISS

[earnest phoenix]

this tbh

[hushed robin]

that's ok 👌

you guys have already helped me a lot tbh

[sudden geyser]

why do you only want to be known as a leech here

[radiant kraken]

@earnest phoenix does dependabot also take into account of devDependencies?

[hushed robin]

im not a leech 🤨

[sudden geyser]

fact checked: FALSE!

[hushed robin]

i am nnot

please stop the defamation

it's illegal

[rocky bear]

[hushed robin]

@wheat mesa

I can sue you for that btw

[wheat mesa]

Can’t tell if you’re serious or not

But if you’re serious that’s somehow more ridiculous than the average john barilaro defamation lawsuit

[earnest phoenix]

[untold geyser]

yoo I need some help

on my listing
https://top.gg/bot/1082401009206308945

my iframes have scrollbars, is there anyway to get rid of that?

@dense flame should i add overflow-x: hidden; to css within the description, or the webpage the iframe points too

[dense flame]

should work if you add it within the description

just add it inside the style tag

[untold geyser]

alr

[untold geyser]

still doesnt work

its still has the scrollbar, and its still like- mini sized

[sharp geyser]

Is that the scrollbar of the page or the iframe

If its the scrollbar of the page then overflow-x: hidden wont work

[untold geyser]

hmm alr ill check that

[sharp geyser]

Youd have to apply overflow-x: hidden on the body but that doesn't make sense and probably isnt allowed since it would prevent people from scrolling on the bot page

[hushed robin]

I’m serious

I could sue you

am I going to? no

[untold geyser]

yea true, im trying to do what the bot Karuta has done
https://top.gg/bot/646937666251915264

where its one big thing

[sharp geyser]

Those aren't iframes

they are just styled divs

[untold geyser]

fml

so in theory, if I transfer the html and css code over to the description, it should work like that

[sharp geyser]

Maybe I don't really know how top.gg handles html and css I dont use it

[untold geyser]

I can confirm it works

[earnest phoenix]

because you can't and you're not serious

[hushed robin]

pls block me again

anyways guys i have a question so i have a canvas how can i get it in a previous state

like i want to remove something that i have added

[earnest phoenix]

changing the topic because he really can't sue anyone with that reason

[hushed robin]

no i'm asking a question

[earnest phoenix]

still changing the topic 🤡

"anyways"

hopeless clown 😭

[hushed robin]

i don't care

not sure how you say i start arguments when you're literally trying to start one right now

[earnest phoenix]

ain't starting one, just stating the fact that you can't sue no one

meanwhile you're still saying that you can

when you cannot

[earnest phoenix]

bro literally just said earlier that he isn't changing the topic but now he's saying this 😭

I'm done with ya peep

[dense flame]

it’s overflow-x

u forgor the x

or is everything good now?

[untold geyser]

everythings good now

iframes just wernt working for what I wanted it to do, so what I did was just put the code for the website I was trying to show with the iframe, into the description itself

works perfectly now, and it looks cool asf

[dense flame]

oh i see. Great then

[sterile vault]

Still waiting for a revision

[rustic nova]

cc @rose warren

though tbf, probably better to have other devs working around php to approve that merge

[sterile vault]

👍

[hushed robin]

how would I install this on linux? would it just be apt install sqlite3 https://sqlite.org/cli.html

[rustic nova]

yes