You shouldn't await in a map
#development
lyric mountain
wheat mesa
Me when “don’t use an async function in a .map”
quartz kindle
wtf is this
hushed robin
tim said i can tho
wheat mesa
He really didn’t
wheat mesa
It’s not
quartz kindle
i mean
hushed robin
😐
hushed robin
where
quartz kindle
on tje Promise.all result
quartz kindle
it doesnt matter much
its mapping tjem into an array of promises to feed into promise.all
wheat mesa
Also why is setExperienceCache async
hushed robin
on tje Promise.all result
no work still
hushed robin
Also why is `setExperienceCache` async
because it calls an API for data
hushed robin
so i need to await it
quartz kindle
no work still
where did yoi put tje await?
hushed robin
where did yoi put tje await?
await topList.join('\n')
quartz kindle
no
wheat mesa
💀
hushed robin
bruh
quartz kindle
topList = await Promise.all
quartz kindle
if you do await topList.join() yoi are awaiting the .join, not the topList
quartz kindle
await applies to the last thing in the chain
hushed robin
if you do await topList.join() yoi are awaiting the .join, not the topList
o ok
quartz kindle
if you want a oneliner using await, you need to put () around the thing you want to await
(await topList).join()
bjt you dont need to await twice, so if you already awaited Promise.all() no need to await topList again
hushed robin
what is this file better sqlite makes
neon leaf
why does this return Value even if fallback isnt provided? It should give Value | undefined in that case
earnest phoenix
How to do an ip whitelist for tog gg webhook
rustic nova
it depends on what you're using for your webhook, if your webhook is behind cloudflare, just use cloudflare for it
check cloudflares docs
earnest phoenix
That's not valid at all, what are you talking about?
radiant kraken
That's not valid at all, what are you talking about?
the at exit handler still works, despite delete mod.cleanup
implicit copy perhaps?
earnest phoenix
Oh, I didn't notice the colon after cleanup and completely misread the first part
The function is copied, so changing/deleting it doesn't affect the handler
quartz kindle
what is this file better sqlite makes
it keeps track of the operations sqlite performs to enable rollback functionality and transactions and stuff
quartz kindle
why does this return Value even if fallback isnt provided? It should give Value ...
why not fallback?: Value
earnest phoenix
it depends on what you're using for your webhook, if your webhook is behind clou...
I do not use cloudfare
rustic nova
then look up on how IP-Whitelisting works on your webserver, depending on what you're using
apache2, nginx
if you're using a library that does whitelisting, look up the docs if it supports something like that
though using cloudflare is your easiest way to do it
neon leaf
why not `fallback?: Value`
🤷🏾♂️ but it still doesnt seem to work correctly, it always gives back Value even if fallback isnt provided
boreal iron
though using cloudflare is your easiest way to do it
Actually can't think of a more complicated way than using CF
Imagine registering an account over there, figure the shit out and pass through your connections
The easiest way on any OS is to DROP incoming connections not using the topgg source IP
deft wolf
wheat mesa
ask a mod in #support, it should've been given to you automatically but sometimes it doesn't go through
final tangle
alright
neon leaf
does anyone know why it isnt inferring the zod Body correctly? it shows as AnyZodObject even though its supposed to infer the provided type
lyric mountain
Holy that's verbose
quartz kindle
does anyone know why it isnt inferring the zod Body correctly? it shows as AnyZo...
i dont really understand what youre trying to do, but it seems youre overcomplicating
neon leaf
this was my final solution which worked
wheat mesa
Sanest obscure typescript library user
quartz kindle
you can create a typeguard function by returning boolean and using the is keyword
ashen prairie
hey guys is there any bots that allow you to follow channels that aren't announcement channels?
lyric mountain
That's kinda specific, so I don't think so
Especially for how easy it'd be to crash such bot
But shouldn't be hard to make that feature yourself, just don't follow very active channels
ashen prairie
well but the thing is id have to use my account since the bot isnt in that server
i dont think thats allowed
spark flint
yeah thats self botting
hushed robin
yes
spark flint
not allowed
lyric mountain
well but the thing is id have to use my account since the bot isnt in that serve...
You can also just ask some moderator if they could transform that channel into a news channel
It'll make no difference for them if it's indeed a notifications channel
ashen prairie
why you wanna follow it
i dont wanna switch servers all the time
they usually say no
lyric mountain
Open a new discord tab then
You can't mirror the channel if it has enough movement
Even with bots it'd crash in a few minutes
Not even discord news channel would work since they have hourly ratelimit too
spark flint
hi
lyric mountain
Shoot it
uneven tartan
okay
i need to
check if anyones nickname
contains the word brenda
BUT
it can either contain or not contain spaces
eg brendaIsCool or brenda is cool
lyric mountain
string.toLowerCase().contains("brenda")
uneven tartan
will that work
spark flint
lmfao yeah that
uneven tartan
no shot
lyric mountain
Lul
uneven tartan
HMMMMM
lyric mountain
Can also replace all spaces with nothing
spark flint
.includes
lyric mountain
Try includes then
spark flint
i made that mistake the other day
lyric mountain
Idk why js uses includes instead of contains like any other language
lyric mountain
Also nickname might be null
Use effectiveName or whatever it is in djs
If there's none then use the null coalescing operator
hushed robin
displayName
wheat mesa
Idk why js uses includes instead of contains like any other language
Ikr, it’s awful
I’m so used to Java
neon leaf
why am I getting this even though im only using 146905 / 524288 file descriptors?
trying to start a vite dev server
wooden ember
is message.content.toLowerCase().includes("words" || "other words" || "another couple words") the way you are supposed to to that or would putting the words in a separate array be better?
the intention is just making a small auto response thing so when some one says for example, some version of "goodnight everyone " the bot will respond to it
wheat mesa
is `message.content.toLowerCase().includes("words" || "other words" || "another ...
That does not even work
.includes is meant for a single string, what that is doing is supplying it a boolean
It might run due to implicit casts, but it definitely won’t produce the output you want
wooden ember
I've not tryed to run it cuz it didnt look like it was gonna work
wheat mesa
Yeah it won’t
You’ll likely need to loop through an array to do what you want here
array.some(s => message.content.includes(s)); is probably what you’re looking for in your condition
wooden ember
mmmm see the code that I was inspired by was some how worse
thought I could make it more compact
wheat mesa
yeah that works too but the array.some method is going to be a lot more compact
it does the same thing though
wooden ember
nice
in a perfect world I would make it so that the auto responces would be in their own command files but that would require more code than just slipping it into the message even file
surreal sage
top 10 most readable code
warm surge
top 10 most readable code
Tokyo type shit
lament rock
Seeing code in languages other than english is so cursed to me wtf
hushed robin
is it possible to get the name of an autocomplete option
solemn latch
👀
solemn latch
I have no idea, storing it in a variable? 🤷
Its hard to know exactly without knowing the design goals, and what you have.
hushed robin
I have no idea, storing it in a variable? 🤷
Its hard to know exactly without ...
what
i wanna know if its possible to get it from the api i don't wanna store it anywhere
i know the API returns the value, but does it return the name too?
solemn latch
Like on an autocompleteinteraction?
lyric mountain
How are u even getting the field value without its name?
hushed robin
How are u even getting the field value without its name?
what
lyric mountain
To get the field value, you need to know its ID right?
hushed robin
there ain't no id
lyric mountain
How are u even getting its value then?
hushed robin
wym
lyric mountain
Afaik slashes don't work with positional arguments
They work with named arguments
hushed robin
interaction.options.getInteger('id'); this is how i get the value
but i want the name
lyric mountain
There, the id
lyric mountain
That's literally an id
Ids don't need to be numbers
They just need to be unique
lyric mountain
It does actually, if you have the id you can retrieve more info about it through the slashes endpoint
hushed robin
the id of what
lyric mountain
The id named "id"
hushed robin
...
lyric mountain
Retrieve that slash using the endpoint, then grab the param named "id"
hushed robin
id isn't a slash commands id
lyric mountain
I know
Tho using the api will be much less efficient than simply saving info about the commands somewhere
lyric mountain
You want the display name of that param right?
hushed robin
no
lyric mountain
Explain then
hushed robin
well i have
but i will again
when a user is running my command there is a option named id, which is an autocomplete option
when they type, i send choices with a "name" and "value" to discord based on what they're typing
when they send the command, i can get the value of their choice with interaction.options.getInteger('id'), however, i was wondering if it's possible to get the name.
lyric mountain
I still don't get what you want
hushed robin
...
lyric mountain
You say you can get the value with that code, but u also want the param name right?
hushed robin
what are you not understanding
lyric mountain
Param being the autocomplete
hushed robin
i want to get the name of the choice they're picking
lyric mountain
Isn't that what discord already returns?
hushed robin
no
it returns the value
but i'm wondering if it returns the name too
so i can use it
lyric mountain
Did u try printing the interaction to console?
hushed robin
no
lyric mountain
Then do it
hushed robin
why
lyric mountain
I can't say yes or no because I don't fuckin use d.js
lyric mountain
Can't u even try something yourself for once?
hushed robin
i try a lot of things
lyric mountain
Do you need to rely on someone else trying it to give you a pre-chewed answer?
hushed robin
yes
lyric mountain
Literally print the thing to console, it's literally one fucking line
lyric mountain
What did it show?
lyric mountain
Well, then that's it
hushed robin
i want the name tho
why discord so dumb are they so lazy that they can't just send both
lyric mountain
Because 99.9% of the time the display name is useless
cloud relic
facts
lyric mountain
Since u already know the names beforehand
lyric mountain
Depends on what you're generating
lyric mountain
As tim said, most of the time will be spent doing I/O operations
Which is why you should cache resources if you want speed
hushed robin
this takes like 150ms to generate
lyric mountain
I bet 140ms is just retrieving that thumbnail
hushed robin
possibly
let me see
thumbnail is like 60ms
however
i also load the chart as an image
cloud relic
how long did it take yalls bot to get approved?
hushed robin
right now it takes ~2 weeks
wheat mesa
Current wait time is 1-2 weeks with 2 weeks being more of the average
hushed robin
top is thumbnail
middle is chart
bottom is total
why does the chart take so long to generate
wheat mesa
You tell us, what data are you fetching to generate these charts
hushed robin
well the time to fetch the data is not including in this
thats just generating the chart itself
wheat mesa
Show what you’re doing
hushed robin
the chart?
wheat mesa
Yes, show where you start the timer to where you stop it
wheat mesa
Doesn’t help very much since I don’t know what those functions do
wheat mesa
Well yeah but I was expecting some actual code, not just like two function calls
hushed robin
this is the generateChart function, there's not much i can do to make it quicker https://pastebin.com/DdjTAit3
wheat mesa
Just as an experiment, try removing the registerFont call and just use the default font
Since that’s (most likely) an IO operation, that could be the slowest thing to call
hushed robin
hm
wheat mesa
Haven’t ever used it though
hushed robin
Might just be a slow library
whats a faster one
wheat mesa
I don’t know, I haven’t used canvas libs or chart libs at all
Keep in mind that “slow library” comment was just speculation
Someone more experienced with these libs might know what you’re doing wrong
hushed robin
hm ok
is there really no way to make the icon load faster except caching
cus in reality there won't be many times someone requests the same thing twice
wheat mesa
If you’re requesting it from an API there’s not much else you can do
Caching is used everywhere for everything because it’s way faster than constantly requesting things from an API
wheat mesa
So then how are you “getting” the image data
hushed robin
every hour my bot fetches data from the api and stores it in my db, while i'm at it i cache the data
cloud relic
I’m mostly a python, c# developer but how is discordjs different from nextcord py (obviously the code, etc)
earnest phoenix
I’m mostly a python, c# developer but how is discordjs different from nextcord p...
discord.js is completely different compared to Nextcord.py (Nextcord.py is a fork of discord.py, which you honestly shouldn't use as discord.py is maintained again), and you're comparing Python to JavaScript which is also vastly different, discord.js has an official guide website that walks you through the simple steps and tells you how to make a Discord bot with it along with some useful stuff: https://discordjs.guide/
But of course, you should learn JavaScript before jumping into making Discord bots with discord.js as the discord.js guide already mentions at the start
earnest phoenix
PS, it's just nextcord - not Nextcord.py
See images, links, etc. Google is your friend
wheat mesa
lvl_calc + 1 - 1 lol
rose warren
Yeah it did something weird but it got the answer for me
If it works... 
Good enough for me
wheat mesa
Yeah it’s almost like a more advanced rubber duck
Twice the value for explaining your problem to it lol
rose warren
I'm so bad at math I knew I had to square it but I didn't know how
So ChatGPT saved me
lol
This is so pog
wheat mesa
I should ask it questions about how to do some of the calc concepts I don’t understand lol
Probably pretty well documented throughout the 300-400 years it’s been around
rose warren
I had seen people talking about asking it to do coding on Twitter but today I was stuck and instead of googling I thought it's try it
I'm genuinely impressed
But I'm also afraid beginners wouldn't take the time to understand what's happening in the answers
It's like an instant stackoverflow answer
Much spoonfeeding
rose warren
I'd love a chatgpt version of copilot
hushed robin
true copilot is useless most of the time
very rarely it actually does something right
spark flint
wtf
i tried that query
it gave me very incorrect responses
i was trying to calculate mee6 levels since i scraped 200k+ levels from mee6 for combat warriors
solemn latch
it gave me very incorrect responses
Chatgpt is known to be somewhat bad at math.
I wouldnt depend on it to give reliable answers
solemn latch
bing ai is a bit better at math, but also gets things wrong sometimes.
I have given it some really complex scenarios(multiple paragraph explanation of what I wanted) and gotten correct answers which was really cool.
spark flint
i might have to try bing ai
solemn latch
I'm finding it really useful for errors, it does a good job understanding context and finding a stack overflow answer.
(and linking to it is so nice)
hushed robin
<guild>.memberCount
rose warren
members ≠ people who use your bot
rose warren
yeah
hushed robin
client.guilds.cache.reduce((acc, guild) => acc + guild.memberCount, 0)
this is what I use
wheat mesa
client.guilds.cache.reduce((acc, guild) => acc + guild.memberCount, 0)
this is w...
This will not work if your guilds are not cached btw
hushed robin
my bot has 750k members but only like 70 people have actually touched it
rose warren
It's like 1 active user per 2 guilds which on average is good considering most guilds are probably old dead abandoned ones people don't use anymore
I believe it's from 75 onwards?
hushed robin
This will not work if your guilds are not cached btw
yes i know
if you have the Guilds intent they'll be cached
rose warren
yeah ok bun
spark flint
lol
rose warren
same thing
hushed robin
discord is slow
spark flint
smhh
hushed robin
i submitted verification 12 days ago ☹️
solemn latch
It means nothing really
spark flint
and means discord has your real name 
earnest phoenix
Technically it doesn't
spark flint
yeah nothing bad
hushed robin
er
spark flint
which means discord still has access to it
hushed robin
whats discord going to do to me
earnest phoenix
They don't actually
spark flint
whats discord going to do to me
send you to the gulag
earnest phoenix
They were pretty clear about it, so did Stripe
rose warren
Discord has got very good at catching phishing links before they even get to the servers now
hushed robin
phishing links usually change a lot and discord has builtin automod now
rose warren
We used to use ZeroTwo for that but it didn't detected anything for months since Discord released better spam protection
solemn latch
👀 have we even had a phishing link here in awhile?
sharp geyser
👀 have we even had a phishing link here in awhile?
I can change that 
rose warren
If that's all it does then yes. Discord already handles 99.99% of these now.
Moderation bots are becoming pretty useless
sharp geyser
Imagine discord not stealing a popular bots idea and making it useless and implementing it themselves
solemn latch
Imagine discord not stealing a popular bots idea and making it useless and imple...
Sounds like a much worse platform
rose warren
Well it's actually a good thing. I'm glad they did.
solemn latch
Moderation should be handled discord side
solemn latch
bots which do moderation tasks are a risk
sharp geyser
Indeed, I am also glad
rose warren
Moderation bots only needed to exist because Discord was doing such a bad job with phishing and raids
sharp geyser
Isnt their auto mod still kinda buggy?
rose warren
Now that Discord are improving on that, the moderation bots are becoming pretty pointless
I haven't experienced any issues with automod here
It even accepts regex now
civic scroll
REGEX
solemn latch
and theres the new ai automod, which for a server like ours might not be super useful but a lot of servers that will be perfect.
civic scroll
solemn latch
👀 theres a ton to do today tbh
rose warren
I mean, large, traditionally moderation-oriented bots like MEE6 are moving towards monetising communities and offering AI and other tools now because they know moderation is a dead path to stay on.
sharp geyser
thats because of how saturated the bot market is now
All those multi purpose bots that got made to be a carbon copy of another
sharp geyser
Those are all already done mac
rose warren
Please god not another card game bot
rose warren
Those are all already done mac
Yeah but each game bot can offer something different. It's something you actually need to be creative for, unlike coding a moderation bot.
sharp geyser
Always have the option to use already trained models
I was originally planning on using AI for auto mod in one of my mod bots back in the day
but got too lazy
sharp geyser
alright
solemn latch
I'm playing around with some stat tracking stuff.
For example, an Iframe users could put on all their favorite botlists/serverlists and track viewcounts across platforms to see which ones are the most beneficial to their bot/server.
sharp geyser
Mac's card is worth 1 macaroni noodle
rose warren
no please dont
rose warren
I'm playing around with some stat tracking stuff.
For example, an Iframe users ...
Top.gg is 90% of my invite traffic, and Discord's "Add to server" button on the bot profile is the other 10%. I'm on all bot lists and none of them do anything for me 
solemn latch
👀 yeah, I would think so.
rose warren
I track through the invite link
rose warren
PRINT ME PAPER MONEEEEEHHHH
rose warren
Hey mac is top.gg registered in america?
It's a registered trademark
sharp geyser
Im talking about the company
rose warren
It's a Dutch company
sharp geyser
I assume you guys got an LLC or smth
solemn latch
I track through the invite link
I thought about adding that too, but for anyone to use.
sharp geyser
Oh you are so lucky it wasn't registered in America, we hate monopolies /s
rose warren
I don't know how the US stuff is handled but I believe we're just a trading name for Ferox / Medal over in the States
sharp geyser
We americans always lose at monopoly
sharp geyser
yes
solemn latch
Oh you are so lucky it wasn't registered in America, we hate monopolies /s
We have no laws in the us for monopolies.
sharp geyser
We do?
solemn latch
our only laws are for anti consumer practices, which cover most monopolies.
rose warren
I would say the EU hates monopolies more than the US
solemn latch
but nothing specifically about monopolies
rose warren
Anyway we're very off topic for development here
solemn latch
lmao
wheat mesa
Thought we had antitrust legislation
sharp geyser
#include <iostream>
int main() {
std::cout << "Hello, World!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
What do you guys think of my super advanced program?
sharp geyser
😔
rose warren
pwned by chatgpt
solemn latch
solemn latch
its the weekend, be lazy
sharp geyser
https://i.imgur.com/aSIvxy2.png
Okay bro, bing dont know shit
wheat mesa
I spent my entire week being lazy because it was my spring break 😉
sharp geyser
I need to get a girlfriend
rose warren
https://i.imgur.com/aSIvxy2.png
Hello this is Top.gg! I think yo- ERROR 503
sharp geyser
Make life more fun
wheat mesa
I need to get a girlfriend
no bad mentality
sharp geyser
```Hello this is Top.gg! I think yo- ERROR 503```
Hello this is Top.g- ERROR 503
lament rock
Ew std::endl instead of \n
endl is platform agonistic as windows might complain about no \r
wheat mesa
Yeah but I’m assuming this is an ideal environment where he’s not deploying his hello world application to multiple platforms lol
lyric mountain
endl flushes the buffer, so it'll heavily degrade performance if done too much
civic scroll
endl flushes the buffer, so it'll heavily degrade performance if done too much
endl endl endl endl endl endl
sharp geyser
Yeah but I’m assuming this is an ideal environment where he’s not deploying his ...
So what if I am
hushed robin
why's this happening
oh wait i'm dumb
nvm 😳
forgot to add breaks
and now i have another question. so i have lots of data and when viewing it on the charts it looks cluttered and hard to read, so i want to remove some of the points. would it be better to do it with sql when getting the data or removing them from the array after i get the data.
i tried to do it with sql but i can't find something that works with sqlite ☹️
lyric mountain
you won't find something that specific ready to be used
use your brain and write a query that merges every 2 rows into one
hushed robin
use your brain and write a query that merges every 2 rows into one
wym merges two into one
lyric mountain
you want to reduce the amount of data
you either limit the amount of rows or merge the rows into a single row
hushed robin
er
sounds like too much work, just ended up doing the second option
my bot is pretty much done now pog
slender wagon
import { FontLoader } from 'three/addons/loaders/FontLoader.js';
import { TextGeometry } from 'three/addons/geometries/TextGeometry.js';
how do i import such addons on nextjs
maiden gazelle
Hello, does someone know how i can make it that when the message is added to the database on line 188, it will send the doneEmbed on line 190
wheat mesa
man this is some crazy formatting
sharp geyser
just send it after you set?
maiden gazelle
yes
wait lemme explain
someone will choose a channel first
then the bot will say "enter a welcome message now"
then after someone entered the message the bot will say Done
slender wagon
so i am going to insert my discord status on one of my pages, what's the best way to approach that?
lyric mountain
your status or the bot status?
lyric mountain
well, the only way would be querying discord
if ur ok with some imprecision, you can cache the status for like, 30 mins
that way you'd not need to fetch from discord all the time
slender wagon
uh so it's a website right how would that work would discord be fetched everytime a user visits the site
wheat mesa
Depends on how you’re sending the information. If your app sends that request every time that page gets a GET request, then yeah that would be a problem. If your app only sends a request every 30 minutes and then sends a cached version to incoming GET requests to that page then you’re fine
solemn latch
It wouldn't really need to be cached if you used a bot which only had this one purpose.
you could enable presence intent and it should always be cached correctly so you dont need to ever fetch your own status.
just get it from cache
lyric mountain
that'd only work for users that share a server with the bot
solemn latch
isnt it only their own account? 👀
also, dont you need to share a server to get status information?
lyric mountain
u can get through oauth2
I think
idk what they're planning tho, I imagine it's some kind of dashboard
hushed robin
judging by their status they're making a portfolio and want their status on it
hushed robin
guys i have two questions about canvas when hosting on ubuntu
- how can i make the emojis work
- how can i make the text not squished in
(first image is windows, second is ubuntu)
lyric mountain
1 - emojis must be supported by whatever font you're using
2 - "squished"?
craggy pine
Only thing I can see that may be considered "Squish" is the text next to the thumbnail
hushed robin
all of the text is squished in a little
it’s very noticeable
and it’s the same font as you can see
but how do I make emojis work on Ubuntu
lyric mountain
use a font that support emojis
hushed robin
?
craggy pine
unicode fonts
solemn latch
👀 does canvas use the default system font?
They may look very similar but ubuntus might be slightly less wide and not have emoji support?
lyric mountain
it works on windows but not on Ubuntu
what font is it?
lyric mountain
perhaps it's using a fallback font in the first case for the emojis, where in the second case that emoji doesnt exist or isnt mapped
hushed robin
what?
lyric mountain
emojis are mapped by the font, not OS
hushed robin
then why are emojis not working on Ubuntu
lyric mountain
perhaps it's using a fallback font in the first case for the emojis, where in th...
^
hushed robin
the emoji in the second image doesn’t exist?
hushed robin
idk if you can see or not but they’re the same things just ones ran on Ubuntu
they’re the same emojis
hushed robin
so why isn’t it using a fallback font on Ubuntu
lyric mountain
because the fallback font might not support that specific emoji
iirc the fallback for windows is times new roman
which is extremely rich regarding emojis
idk which is ubuntu's
hushed robin
so I need to install times new Roman on Ubuntu?
lyric mountain
no
hushed robin
why
lyric mountain
times is proprietary to windows
hushed robin
bruh
hushed robin
does open sans look ugly
lyric mountain
you're ugly
lyric mountain
I see nothing squished
lyric mountain
mind to circle it?
lyric mountain
circle what ur seeing squished
hushed robin
the text…..
lyric mountain
CIRCLE IT
hushed robin
…
lyric mountain
I'm not seeing anything off
hushed robin
well it is
If you put the two images on top of each other and turn down the visibility on one you can see it better
hushed robin
Only thing I can see that may be considered "Squish" is the text next to the thu...
even he sees it
but it’s not just the title it’s all the text
lyric mountain
I think what ur calling "squished" is that the emoji isn't taking the same size
I really can't see a difference
hushed robin
well I’m not sure how your not seeing it because it’s all the text, but I’ll send a screenshot in a bit
not at my pc right now
lyric mountain
Perhaps you're just paranoid
hushed robin
how am I paranoid when the other guy saw it too?
and I put them on top of each other the Ubuntu one is definitely squished
lyric mountain
how am I paranoid when the other guy saw it too?
She said "maybe this is squished" is the slightly bigger space between the title and the thumb
Which I already said, is because the emojis are different
hushed robin
Lmao
I’ll send a screenshot when I’m on my pc
💀
don’t know what type of screen your on that your not able to see it especially on the title where it’s really noticeable
final tangle
i literally don’t see any difference
delicate zephyr
👀 does canvas use the default system font?
yea
and setting up fonts on canvas is a royal pain in the ass
can take some jiggery pokery sometimes
delicate zephyr
and I put them on top of each other the Ubuntu one is definitely squished
the letter spacing is just lower
delicate zephyr
if you want eomoji font support / different emoji styling you should be installing emoji fonts like Tweoji
delicate zephyr
trust me it is not
it is, I've been doing software engineering for over 5 years, and have had similar issues with other fonts
hushed robin
they’re different sizes
I literally put them on top of each other the windows one has a slightly higher height
delicate zephyr
font size, letter spacing, line height is entirely dependant on the font
hushed robin
they’re the same font
delicate zephyr
not to mention character styles
might be the same font
but are they the same font version
because that exists too
hushed robin
they’re exactly the same font
transferred the font file directly from my pc to the server
hushed robin
no
delicate zephyr
The other way around
hushed robin
yes
delicate zephyr
it doesnt really matter
windows manipulates fonts really weirdly
because it does all that accessibility crap
you shouldnt really be trying to compare how it looks on windows to linux... and realistically you should setup a dev environment for testing like that
hushed robin
so your saying windows is stretching the font?
delicate zephyr
yes
hushed robin
bruh
delicate zephyr
👏
hushed robin
how do I make it not stretch the font
lyric mountain
Given how fonts don't work in pixels but points might also be rounding issue no?
delicate zephyr
Given how fonts don't work in pixels but points might also be rounding issue no?
might be yea
but windows also just does really fucky things with fonts
lyric mountain
Not that they should be comparing windows and linux anyway, since it'll not run on windows
...or will it?
lyric mountain
Just setup a dev env on ubuntu and either code remotely or use git
delicate zephyr
^^
lyric mountain
That way u can fine tune in the target system
hushed robin
does that make it look like how it does on windows?
hushed robin
I don’t see a point in doing it then
hushed robin
looks weird on ubuntu
lyric mountain
It literally look the same
hushed robin
no it doesn’t
lyric mountain
Nobody would notice even if it was 1cm wider
lyric mountain
They didn't
hushed robin
they did
lyric mountain
They said THE SPACE BETWEEN THE TITLE AND THE THUMBNAIL IS SLIGHTLY BIGGER
That's not saying "the font is different"
craggy pine
it looks fine.
hushed robin
no it doesn’t
lyric mountain
Maybe you're just tired and seeing things
wheat mesa
Sanest battleless interaction
hushed robin
how am I seeing things
lyric mountain
Among 4 people you're the only one seeing the difference
hushed robin
you saw the difference
craggy pine
sec ill make this easier for u
lyric mountain
you saw the difference
I saw the space being bigger
Which I already said 4 times it's because of the different emoji
Emojis aren't monospaced
hushed robin
the text itself is a slightly different height
craggy pine
https://scs.twilightgamez.net/g/gR2qz.gif I see 0 difference. And the space is bigger because of the fire emoji
lyric mountain
I literally can't notice it
hushed robin
I can see the difference and it’s unseeable now
lyric mountain
That's called paranoia
hushed robin
☹️
wheat mesa
There is no difference
hushed robin
there is a difference
lyric mountain
Circle it
craggy pine
fix the fire emoji problem and they'll be identical
hushed robin
I’m not on my computer
wheat mesa
The 0 looks like 1 pixel more squished
hushed robin
all the text is more squished in
delicate zephyr
you're seeing things
wheat mesa
It’s not
hushed robin
im not
craggy pine
I see what hes talking about now, but its not THAT big of an issue.
wheat mesa
You’re paranoid
craggy pine
hold on ill make another gif.l
hushed robin
I see what hes talking about now, but its not THAT big of an issue.
exactly
delicate zephyr
https://scs.twilightgamez.net/g/gR2qz.gif I see 0 difference. And the space is b...
the text is moving due to the missing emoji
which isnt helping
wheat mesa
It’s like 1 pixel less in height
lyric mountain
The average user will just pass by without even noticing the color of tge chart
delicate zephyr
also, just so you know.... it wont matter what you're doing when most peoples pcs handle fonts differently anyway
lmao
lyric mountain
Nobody will do forensics analysis on the image to find the difference
hushed robin
I’m rendering the images they’ll all be the same font
wheat mesa
There is a tiny difference between it, nobody is going to know
hushed robin
it’s a bot
lyric mountain
Hes talking about the height changes
Now I can see it
lyric mountain
But that's undetectable unless you put in a fast gif like miyu did
hushed robin
I detected it tho
lyric mountain
99.999999% of the users won't
wheat mesa
Also it doesn’t even look bad?
lyric mountain
Don't think so, the only way it'd look bad is if it was pixel-aligned with the "corrected" font
hushed robin
that’s what Luke said
lyric mountain
You spend so much effort in such a petty thing instead of important things, like learning how to optimize your chart or stuff
hushed robin
there’s no way to optimize my chart
Waffle already checked it out I’m literally just doing the bare bones with the library
lol
and this isn’t a petty thing it’s a design flaw 😢
lyric mountain
Also the user will never notice the difference, know why?
They don't have the other side to compare against
They'll only ever see the ubuntu version
hushed robin
😕
very sad moment that this issue is not fixable
but I thank you guys for the help and eventually seeing the height difference after some convincing
lyric mountain
Now don't be such a douchebag
I only saw the difference because miyu made a very fast gif
The difference is literally unnoticeable if you're just looking at the images
hushed robin
yes but instead of believing me because I’m definitely making up that they’re different heights you call me paranoid 👍👌
lyric mountain
You literally didn't give a single proof that there was a difference
And yes, you're paranoid
hushed robin
im not paranoid
lyric mountain
You are
craggy pine
very
hushed robin
no im not
lyric mountain
You're as paranoid as someone who say water and dihydrogen monoxide taste different
lyric mountain
If everyone is "wrong" perhaps you need to reconsider whether you're right
hushed robin
you were literally wrong tho
lyric mountain
The common denominator here is you
hushed robin
☠️
hushed robin
yes you were
lyric mountain
I couldn't and still can't see the difference in the original images
The only way to see something is if you zoom in and make a gif with it
lyric mountain
Not possibly, it IS true, nobody saw a difference without miyu doing it
hushed robin
but what was I wrong in exaxtly?
lyric mountain
You were wrong saying it's a very clear difference
hushed robin
because it is to me
do you think I just randomly decided to compare the size difference of them?
lyric mountain
Yes
hushed robin
I didn’t
lyric mountain
The user won't be able to compare
But anyway, I won't argue since that'll just inflate your childish ego
hushed robin
I don’t have an ego you just think you’re always right
if anything you have the ego
🤠
hushed robin
he does
how am I wrong in this situation when you guys are saying there’s no difference when there was?
👍perfect sense
craggy pine
Okay. Theres a big difference between "There isn't a difference" and "I can't see a difference" we wernt stickly saying you were wrong with the difference, hell I even pointed out in the beingging about the spacing between the text and image. The thing we are saying is that is not as big of a deal that you made it and now you're being childish.
lyric mountain
So miyu, how's the bot going?
craggy pine
haven't worked on it much as of late. its still running, but I've considered shutting it down due to motivation and saving money on vps costs.
lyric mountain
Working on any other hobby?
craggy pine
Going through c++ courses atm. Trying to expand into more advanced languages
lyric mountain
Courageous
Cpp honestly ain't that bad if you avoid winapi and setup a good error logger asap
craggy pine
Well, idk what I really plan on using it for. Maybe build apps? Exploring game hacking stuff? Idk, but it interested me for some reason.
hushed robin
like open sans
this did nothing
lyric mountain
Figure it out
hushed robin
wrong once again ☹️
lyric mountain
Figure 👏 it 👏 out
When you become less egotistical perhaps I'll spend effort trying to help you again
hushed robin
Figure 👏 it 👏 out
i will, just letting you know your solution did nothing
lyric mountain
Then find something that works
hushed robin
When you become less egotistical perhaps I'll spend effort trying to help you ag...
you don't need to help me, no one is forcing you to
i'll find a solution regardless
wheat mesa
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
delicate zephyr
ignorant and egotistical developers tend to not go very far
hushed robin
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
why not?
wheat mesa
because then that hand won't feed you anymore
wheat mesa
until you run out of food that you like eating
delicate zephyr
Yea but people won't make the same mistake twice
it's as simple as don't be a dick lol
hushed robin
until you run out of food that you like eating
discord is very wide
billions of guilds
running out would be hard ngl
delicate zephyr
people try to help you and if they get it throw back in their face you're sure as hell gonna get a reputation that'll mean people will just ridicule you instead
hushed robin
😢very saddening
wheat mesa
"aw man I guess I'll be a dick to people just because there's other people 😢"
delicate zephyr
also I just checked out your website @hushed robin
hushed robin
<:shrug:654102364743270422> also I just checked out your website <@3073078610323...
nice
delicate zephyr
I like being flashbanged every time I go to a link of yours that redirects
lmao
please fix
delicate zephyr
"too difficult" when you literally don't need to have that there 
it's like one of the simplest things to do
lmao
but aight
delicate zephyr
user experience would be better
considering you were going ape shit about a 1 pixel difference before
wheat mesa
is there any benefit to being a dick to devs helping you? no, but you still do that :p
hushed robin
user experience would be better
what user experience it just redirects u to another website
delicate zephyr
from a dark background to a while background
why not just go directly to the link without the redirecting screen
delicate zephyr
You're joking right?
delicate zephyr
hushed robin
whats wowing
plain talon
the fact that its very simple to go
html,body{
background: black;
}
on your redirecting page to avoid it
delicate zephyr
the fact that its very simple to go
```css
html,body{
background: black;
}
`...
idk why he needs the redirecting page at all...
its so easy to just 302 to a link with 0 white page
radiant kraken
flashbang
html, body {
margin: 0px;
background-color: #ff0000;
}
``` @earnest phoenix @quartz kindle should enum values be PascalCase or UPPERCASED_SNAKE_CASE? ```ts
enum First {
SomethingThat,
IsVeryInteresting
}
enum Second {
SOMETHING_THAT,
IS_VERY_INTERESTING
}
PascalCase, just like macros
radiant kraken
PascalCase, just like macros
civic scroll
<@456226577798135808> <@180112943612952577> should enum values be PascalCase or ...
i often use enums for constant so i use screaming snake case
lyric mountain
I use screaming snake too cuz you can instantly notice which values are contants/enums
radiant kraken
I use screaming snake too cuz you can instantly notice which values are contants...
wym
so should i use the first or second
lyric mountain
personal preference, I just find the second more obvious
spark flint
idk why he needs the redirecting page at all...
so he gets the embed in discord likely
the typedream link advertises typedream lol
old cliff
anyone knows any lightweight summarization model?
slender wagon
idk what they're planning tho, I imagine it's some kind of dashboard
No it's a portfolio, and i am trying to keep it serverless
earnest phoenix
<@456226577798135808> <@180112943612952577> should enum values be PascalCase or ...
PascalCase
slender wagon
No it's a portfolio, and i am trying to keep it serverless
But i have heard there are third party apps that help you with the user status
earnest phoenix
it's still a common convention for TypeScript enums to use PascalCase for their values. But, if you prefer a different convention, you can use it as long as you're consistent throughout your codebase
civic scroll
enums in ts are constants
usually global constants
so it's worth setting it as screaming snake case
earnest phoenix
enums in ts are constants
yh, enums are a way to define a set of named constants in TypeScript
the values of an enum are fixed and cannot be modified at runtime
wheat mesa
Enum name scheme is basically just preference between pascalcase and screaming snake
It doesn’t matter all that much
earnest phoenix
so, for me, using PascalCase for enum values is a convention that makes the enum values stand out and be easily recognizable as constant 🤷
civic scroll
pascal - class / interface names
camel - variables, functions, methods and mutable fields
screaming snakes - constants (global constants, enums, static class fields)
civic scroll
so, for me, using PascalCase for enum values is a convention that makes the enum...
it doesn't really stand out for me
civic scroll
if (env.type === EnvironmentType.LACKS_CRITICAL)
new WarnConstructor(...args, _class.ENVIRONMENT_ARGS).dispatchSend()
is more recognisible than
if (env.type === EnvironmentType.LacksCritical)
new WarnConstructor(...args, _class.EnvironmentArgs).dispatchSend()
imo
earnest phoenix
```ts
if (env.type === EnvironmentType.LACKS_CRITICAL)
new WarnConstructor(....
both styles are certainly readable. It's ultimately up to personal preference and coding standards
civic scroll
constructs are not global constants
being able to differenciate between types of fields is important imo
earnest phoenix
constructs are not global constants
but they are typically named using PascalCase as a convention in many programming languages
like ts
civic scroll
i used to write in enviroments that lacks syntax highlighting
civic scroll
but they are typically named using PascalCase as a convention in many programmin...
in this case it's not a construct
more like an intrinsic constant
so screaming case for me
but say in rust
earnest phoenix
in this case it's not a construct
yeah mb
civic scroll
rust enums can be constructed with values defined in enums
in that case, it's used with pascal case
wheat mesa
Rust enums are different though because they act more like genuine structures than ts enums
earnest phoenix
rust enums can be constructed with values defined in enums
yeah thanks, I'll choose the screaming one in TS now
delicate zephyr
so he gets the embed in discord likely
thats sad as hell lmao
Surprised they dont just use github pages
lmao
spark flint
lol
civic scroll
NICE, at last
triangles
wheat mesa
took me more time than I expected
Now make an engine 🧌
lyric mountain
slender wagon
I've heard there is certain servers you can join and then you can use their api to get your status anyone can provide me with an url?
delicate zephyr
I've heard there is certain servers you can join and then you can use their api ...
why not just do it yourself?
slender wagon
because serverless
delicate zephyr
You can literally use a cloudflare worker iirc
dont even need a gateway bot iirc
slender wagon
hmm
delicate zephyr
I've heard there is certain servers you can join and then you can use their api ...
earnest phoenix
so screaming case for me
Note that even though it's personal preference, pretty much every big project uses either camelCase for enum values (such as kBitMask or constexprValue) but some use SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE for legacy codebases
It appears that PascalCase is unusual for enum values, as well as the SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE
earnest phoenix
It has been used very thoroughly throughout big codebases, especially Google's projects
delicate zephyr
It appears that PascalCase is unusual for enum values, as well as the SCREAMING\...
I mostly use SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE for env vars, or specifically necessary values that will cause the app to not work unless set
wooden ember
anyone know of i can use one one audio stream and send it to multiple discord VCs?
cuz the only thing i can think of atm is to stream the audio like those internet radio stations streaming mp3 and then just make a standard bridge from that to discord for each vc
but i really don't want to do that
I can recreate multiple sources but that would require a whole bunch of indexing and databace shenanigans
don't want to get into that just for a dumb audio command
any ideas?
and once again I have scaired off everyone from the development chat im this server with a question that is so niche that no one knows how to answer it
solemn latch
I would think its possible to do easily but buggy.
If discord lags on one stream I'd imagine something like this would cause weird artifacts on all streams?
wheat mesa
You would have to have multiple streams going to discord, no?
Since I don't believe there's a way to only send one stream to multiple connections
Could be wrong though
solemn latch
I'd think so, in nodejs there are pass-through streams.
Which I think can be made to duplicate it?
https://stackoverflow.com/a/19561718
slim heart
Note that even though it's personal preference, pretty much every big project us...
screaming snake case is def the most popular
civic scroll
Note that even though it's personal preference, pretty much every big project us...
i'm legacy 
wooden ember
I would think its possible to do easily but buggy.
If discord lags on one strea...
I'm thinking more along the lines of one source but can be accessed by multiple vcs
so you just run a commands and you just get connected to the same source as everyone else/ send a coppy of the stream to each vc
if that makes sence
solemn latch
afaik, streams are linear. one stream can only be piped to one thing.
from what I understand they can be duplicated, but that's not really what you're asking for.
That stream could be duplicated on discords side to many voice chats, but that would require discord adding support for it.
lyric mountain
nice, managed to work with bezier
lyric mountain
that's cuz bezier
java's default circle shape isn't really a perfect circle
actually, it is, just compared with the default impl
wooden ember
afaik, streams are linear. one stream can only be piped to one thing.
from what ...
could i duplicate it and then just send the duplicates to indevidual discords?
but then I would have to track each one so they get killed when the bot is kicked
and thats back to square one cuz I can just make multiple instances of the source comming in from the sound card
frigid robin
I see many people posted about topgg's DBLClient's get_user_vote function just hanging not doing anything. I get the same issue. I found no solution. Any idea? Maybe it won't work with AutoShardedBot object?
dblpy = topgg.DBLClient(bot, topgg_token)
vote = await dblpy.get_user_vote(message.author.id)
one way is to debug and see how it goes
frigid robin
Well it just runs in this loop until there's an aiohttp.client_exceptions.ServerDisconnectedError: Server disconnected exception
civic scroll
frigid robin
Anyone else got any idea? T_T
earnest phoenix
screaming snake case is def the most popular
It isn't, going through many big projects and medium level projects, most of them use camelCase enum values
lyric mountain
@wheat mesa need some help with opengl blending, it's acting weird when the backgrond is white vs when it's black