development

[wheat mesa]

including message content, right?

[cobalt spruce]

Yessir

[wheat mesa]

Add a console.log(message) inside of your messageCreate

is your bot even coming online?

[cobalt spruce]

const { Client, GatewayIntentBits } = require('discord.js');
const client = new Client({
intents: [
  GatewayIntentBits.Guilds,
  GatewayIntentBits.GuildMessages,
  GatewayIntentBits.MessageContent,
  GatewayIntentBits.GuildMembers,
    ]
});

const request = require('request');


client.on('ready', () => {
  console.log(`Logged in as ${client.user.tag}!`);
});

client.on('message', message => {
  // Only respond to messages that start with "!chatgpt"
  if (message.content.startsWith('!chatgpt')) {
    // Get the message text without the command prefix
    const prompt = message.content.slice('!chatgpt'.length);

    // Send a request to the ChatGPT API
    const options = {
      method: 'POST',
      url: 'https://api.openai.com/v1/chatbot',
      headers: {
        'Content-Type': 'application/json',
        'Authorization': `Bearer ${process.env.CHATGPT_API_KEY}`
      },
      body: JSON.stringify({
        'prompt': prompt,
        'model': 'chatbot'
      })
    };

    request(options, function(error, response, body) {
      if (error) throw new Error(error);

      // Send the ChatGPT response back to the channel
      const chatbotResponse = JSON.parse(body).response;
      message.channel.send(chatbotResponse);
    });
  }
});```

Current code

[wheat mesa]

oh... you never logged in

[cobalt spruce]

The bot is getting on

It's loges

[wheat mesa]

Okay

oh

[cobalt spruce]

It's just because the token is there I didn't copy it

[wheat mesa]

you're doing client.on('message')

You need client.on('messageCreate', ...)

[cobalt spruce]

Well, I was the problem and I got new one

[wheat mesa]

I think the error is fairly self explanatory no?

[cobalt spruce]

The message isn't empty.

[wheat mesa]

Except it definitely is

Log chatbotResponse and tell me what you get

[cobalt spruce]

Undefined

That's what it log

The api key also says never used

[cobalt spruce]

I got 0 ideas why it is not working

[wheat mesa]

JSON.parse(body).response makes no sense

actually hold on im in the middle of smth

[cobalt spruce]

That's how to parse the answer? No?

[wheat mesa]

I haven't used the request lib

I usually use built in node-fetch

Log body

There is no response prop on it, hence why you're getting undefined

[cobalt spruce]

Url invalid

[lunar reef]

hey guys, just had a general question. if i wanted to start a side hustle, is developing discord bots a decent way to do so? i've never made one, but looking over the docs and checking out the ecosystem, it seems pretty cool. i'm a fulltime dev just looking to do something for fun and still get paid 😅

[lament rock]

finding funding is too difficult if making money is your objective

I'm lucky to have 1 consistent backer

[lunar reef]

ah good to know

[lament rock]

even then, I'm still doing this at a huge loss

and this has been going on for like 5 years

[lunar reef]

i've seen a bunch of posts about people paying money for discord bots on reddit, and it's something i've never explored so i decided to ask you guys, in your nest 😄

it still seems fun, though. i might give it a try.

[lament rock]

maybe some commissions would be nice to do, but a lot of devs can just churn out trash like nothing

[wheat mesa]

Definitely not a good way to make money

It's inconsistent and many people use discord bots simply because they're free in the first place

[lunar reef]

i'm currently switching stacks to elixir and phoenix, so it might be a good exercise to create some kind of open source discord library with elixir

just as a fun project

[lament rock]

might alr exist and lib creation is a nightmare

if you aren't dedicated to maintenance, do not make a lib

[lunar reef]

there's this https://github.com/Kraigie/nostrum

[lament rock]

You can do like a one off thing just to get used to the low level api, but I can tell you that even a simple wrapper is a nightmare to maintain

[lunar reef]

yeah, sounds like it

thanks for the advice 😉

i think if it's something i can't monetize easily, i might as well do something 100% for my own fun instead

e.g. nothing to do with discord bots ha

[lament rock]

I make a music bot for the hell of it. Audio related stuff is kinda getting deep in demand

Discord and YT cracking down on music bots

[lunar reef]

i don't really use discord, what does a 'music bot' do?

take song input and play the song?

[lament rock]

play music in a voice channel

[lyric mountain]

Music bots have to dedicate 100% of the resources to it

[lament rock]

One could take in data from many sources like yt, or soundcloud or spotify (just yt but scraping metadata), and some other less than popular options

Most of what I do to add new sources is scraping web pages

a lot of places dont have an api in place

[lunar reef]

sounds boring tbh

aren't scrapers a pain to maintain on big sites like youtube?

there's a new deploy like every day

[lament rock]

they are a pain, but changes have been super slow recently so little updates required

and you could get away with using already maintained stuff like ytdlp

unless you're super dedicated to native to lang solutions

which is what I'm working on

[rustic nova]

yo @neon leaf one thing that actually pisses me off

I dont get what the mailcrow hostname is supposed to be

mailcow*

[atomic sun]

Whats the best sql server out there for a discordjs bot?

[wheat mesa]

Postgresql is pretty nice

[sudden geyser]

default to sqlite

[wheat mesa]

All depends on your needs

[atomic sun]

Ahh whats the difference btwn postgresql and sqlite? Sorry new to sql 😅

[sudden geyser]

They're both SQL databases, but Postgres is used in larger environments, while SQLite is usually used in smaller environments.

The main difference being that Postgres uses a client/server model while SQLite is embedded.

Client/server meaning that your app acts as a user and talks to your database elsewhere, while embedded means that your database logic is sort of inside your app (bot)

Note that your database is not literally in your app when embedded, it's just closer to you.

I personally think that embedded databases, especially for Discord bots (since they're usually small), are a much better choice

[atomic sun]

ah i see. Is the database in sqlite visible? as in is there anyway we can view it with our own eyes?

[sudden geyser]

It'd be a file on disk, but you'd query (i.e. get data from) it with SQL.

[atomic sun]

ah i seee..thanks for info!

[lyric mountain]

Sqlite is for when need a fast and straightforward storage

It'd be akin to an SUV

Postgres is a huge complete toolset included inside a rich and fast database structure

It'd be akin to a truck with turbo

[lament rock]

sqlite doesnt work for multi process data access

[sudden geyser]

I'm pretty sure it does, though it's restricted to a single writer

[lament rock]

thats what I mean

Reads are fine since no locks

[neon leaf]

Your address, example "mail.agaga.com"

[sharp geyser]

So say I have a domain that I want to have subdomains point to specific rust servers. Would I just make a nginx config for it and have it proxy_pass to my server's ip+port

so like

server {
  listen somePort
  server_name 2x.horizon-rust.store
  
  location / {
    proxy_pass gameServersIP:port
  }
}

or does proxy_pass have to be a http(s) thing

[neon leaf]

well yeah nginx is a web server

your goal can be achieved by changing the game port

[sharp geyser]

oh?

[lament rock]

You shouldn't be having nginx redirect a client if it's on another machine. sub domains under nginx only makes sense if it's on the same machine in which case, proxy passing it to a local port is what to do based on subdomain. Otherwise, your DNS should just point to another ip

[neon leaf]

If you want to host multiple rust servers on default port just buy multiple ips

[sharp geyser]

I have multiple

[neon leaf]

then use em

[sharp geyser]

yes...but..the domain will be the same

[neon leaf]

no

[sharp geyser]

Im not buying multiple domains for the servers?

The servers will all be named the same just different versions, one will be 2x, one vanilla, etc

[neon leaf]

for each rust server you add a A record with the ip its on

done, I cant access 2x from 1x that way

[sharp geyser]

yea, I tried that

[neon leaf]

then show exactly what you did

since you probably didnt bind the servers to ips

just 0.0.0.0

[lament rock]

ping amanda.moe
then ping beta.amanda.moe
They're on different servers with nginx installed.

But I also have a http only bot which I have Discord post interactions to on amanda.moe just under a different path. Subdomain would be the same concept

[sharp geyser]

I did bind the servers to ips

[neon leaf]

well then it would work

since it does for me

[sharp geyser]

I realize the issue now

Whenever i add numbers to the subdomain cloudflare ignores everything after the .

[lament rock]

shouldn't the dns entry just be the subdomain name and not the full address

[neon leaf]

indeed

[sharp geyser]

really?

[neon leaf]

yes

[lament rock]

Your * record should be the domain name

Then A is for subdomains and just the subdomain. In my example, it's just beta

or was it CNAME

whatever

I'm tired. Have fun

[sharp geyser]

I think it is a CNAME

So then something like this?

[neon leaf]

try it out ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp geyser]

I am

[sharp geyser]

yep that works

Thanks guys

[neon leaf]

what are the numbers behind a , called again?

[lament rock]

example

[neon leaf]

10,5% discount

[lament rock]

decimal? Also, that's a regional formatting for EU

[neon leaf]

thanks

[lament rock]

Ah bio says german. Makes sense. US uses .

[sharp geyser]

ye

[bright thorn]

i am unable to create a index in mongo db with the same user id

[deft wolf]

You are most likely trying to create two documents with the same _id, right?

[bright thorn]

yes

in music bot with the same user id but with diffreent playlist name

[deft wolf]

_id It is unique to every document and should not be overwrited

[bright thorn]

but mongo db say's we can't create another one with same user id

[bright thorn]

User id

so mongo will have to build it as with unique id

[deft wolf]

Okay, just send a screenshot or your schema code

It will be easier

[deft wolf]

That should work

Except that "E" after false

[bright thorn]

it typo

[deft wolf]

Have you tried to set a default value for userId?

And then check if this error occurs?

[bright thorn]

default not

why we need default value for a useriD

[deft wolf]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24430220/e11000-duplicate-key-error-index-in-mongodb-mongoose

[deft wolf]

Just asking

[rustic nova]

turns out my host blocked 465 und 587 or smth

[flat copper]

i have an input tag for multiple files

and i want to upload it to multer

my code:

let data = new FormData()
data.append("images", $(".input").prop("files"))

fetch("/post", { method: "POST", body: data})

in post.js
parser.array("images")

why its not working?

[eternal osprey]

Is anyone here well known with the challenge response authentication protocol?

if yes, the client would put the challenge in a mac function right, and send it over to the server (that only checks whether the hash is equal to its own crested one). Couldn’t we then as an attacker try to intercept this message and just send it later on so that WE instead of the actual client gets authenticated?

[lyric mountain]

Define "not working"

[sharp geyser]

It isn't doing what its supposed to

[lyric mountain]

If I wasn't at mobile data I'd send a meme here

[sharp geyser]

lmao

Love how this is still a thing

Just made the bot application and can't even see the token

For security purposes, tokens can only be viewed once, when created. If you forgot or lost access to your token, please regenerate a new one.
yes but where is it 😔

[wheat mesa]

you only get to see it once

when it's generatede

reset it if you can't find it

and then put it somewhere safe

[flat copper]

i solved it

The pics were not being stored

[slender wagon]

https://github.com/Perfare/Il2CppDumper so this program is made on python, when others run the .exe a file explorer window shows up and u chose the files

but when i do it it opens a cmd and then closes it immediatly

[wheat mesa]

did you download the correct release for your arch

actually nvm

Do you have the correct .NET version installed on your computer for running the release you downloaded?

[slender wagon]

my dotnet versions are becoming like mush potato

[wheat mesa]

keep in mind you may need to run it directly in the terminal as opposed to opening it

[slender wagon]

even if i am using windows?

[wheat mesa]

Yes

I'm using windows

[slender wagon]

why that terminal looking out of this world

[wheat mesa]

using a custom terminal for colors and font

[slender wagon]

ohh

right

lol

[wheat mesa]

starship

[slender wagon]

pro hecker

[wheat mesa]

eh I just like the way it looks

it's not meant to be used in the default command line

[slender wagon]

ok so it works now

earlier i was running the .exe by doubleclicking

(i also installed another sdk)

so one of them did the job

[wheat mesa]

it closes for me when I double click it

so it's meant to be used in the terminal

[wheat mesa]

here's what I have it set up to look like in a different app

[slender wagon]

and choose the il2cpp executable file

so as i am reading this github repo it says i shall run the il2cpp executable file?
like this thing is confusing me besides the metadata file that ik what to do with

[slender wagon]

i'd rather keep it some dark color behind

i lose focus quickly

[wheat mesa]

I just have it set up like that

[slender wagon]

im like a moth

[wheat mesa]

you can change it to whatever you like

[earnest phoenix]

https://github.com/0x3C50/pyasm official brain damage generator

only use this if you are willing to learn whatever this shit is

[wheat mesa]

that's pretty basic

just bytecode ops

the actual compilation process of python -> bytecode is more interesting than the bytecode itself

[earnest phoenix]

certain things are uh

to put it lightly

abhorrent

[wheat mesa]

to be fair nobody writes raw bytecode for a reason

it's just meant to be an efficient format to compile code to

[earnest phoenix]

well there is a reason

it's just that the reason is stupid

it's more of a fun toy than an actual project anyways so who cares

[ancient nova]

what feature can i add to get the presence intent

my bot can't get past 100 servers

i got denied presence intent for one of the best features i ever came up with and i got no more ideas 🗿

[sudden geyser]

what was the feature

[ancient nova]

The use is within our anti-raid system. It is detecting unusual patterns in presence. every form of "detection" adds a suspicious point, if it goes over certain treshold of points the user will be suspected of self botting by our bot. if the owner allows it, that will also be logged by our bot and moderators are notified. Such point of detection can for example be; staying online while no activity is being detected. having multiple presences eg. browser and desktop presence, "browser" obviously being the instance of the self bot.

bad copy paste but it explains the feature that i made

[lyric mountain]

That again

Why do u insist on getting an intent u clearly don't need?

[sudden geyser]

is this a clone of the guy waffle was talking about

[lyric mountain]

No, that's bae

[wheat mesa]

sounds kinda just like unnecessary data mining on users that don’t consent to it

And might catch like 5 people out of 20 thousand

[lyric mountain]

They got denied when they tried to get presence intent without a good reason

Since then bae's been trying to find a good escape goat to get it

[wheat mesa]

Lmao

I don’t think they’re ever going to give it to you knowing that’s what you’re using it for

Because it definitely sounds to me exactly like what they want to prevent with the whole intent system

[lyric mountain]

And they're back calling the antispam/nuke an antiraid feature

[sudden geyser]

Really Discord just doesn't want to give the intent to anyone unless they absolutely need it

[wheat mesa]

There are VERY few reasons that you would absolutely need presence data

It’s very sensitive data

And therefore they’re very protective of it

[ancient nova]

a couple commands use it, plus this anti raid feature is cool, detects self botting users and notifies staff about them

[ancient nova]

if that were the case they would've told me to remove the feature, not just say something along the lines of "this is not a use case we would provide the intent for, however if you add additional functionality which needs the kntent, u can reapply"

[ancient nova]

if i disable the intent and let my bot go past 100 servers i think around 6 commands would fully break

and some backend stuff too

[lyric mountain]

I can't really see a single way you'd detect a selfbot without more than 50% false-positives

[wheat mesa]

Yeah

[lyric mountain]

If it was possible discord would've done it already

[ancient nova]

yeah that's why i use a treshold system

[wheat mesa]

You’re also sending data to server owners about accounts that did not necessarily consent to have that data shared

[ancient nova]

the more detection points the higher the chance of self botting

goes from 0% to 100%

at around 10 different ways of detecting the self bot so far

[wheat mesa]

This is probably part of the reason they denied your request

[ancient nova]

i'm not nexessarily sending the owners any data

just saying something along the lines of "hey watch out! (user) may be self botting"

probably should've said that in the application ...

[wheat mesa]

I don’t see how you need presence data for that. It just sounds very very very unreliable

[lyric mountain]

Mind to give an example of what'd be detected as selfbotting?

[ancient nova]

for example staying online with no activity or being online on multiple platforms eg. desktop and browser

those two would account as around 25% to self botting, if it gets past 70% the bot sends a notification to the owners

[spark flint]

staying online with no activity

[wheat mesa]

Lmfao

[spark flint]

most of discord's users

[ancient nova]

yeah that's just one of the ways detections

[wheat mesa]

Dude, I’m on mobile and desktop right now. I have it open on my computer

You see how problematic that is?

[ancient nova]

well that would not give any point

only browser activity can count as a self bot

and not many users use browser anymore

[wheat mesa]

And some people are on mobile and browser

Yes they do

A lot of people do

[ancient nova]

less than they use desktop that is for sure

[wheat mesa]

Probably not

Not everyone is a hardcore discord user

[ancient nova]

well true

[wheat mesa]

And not everybody has a computer with enough resources to run discord on their native application

[ancient nova]

but that is only one way i detect it, if someone does that it won't automatically send notification to the owners

[wheat mesa]

Nor does everybody want to

[ancient nova]

it would have to add to more than 70%

[wheat mesa]

Again I’m saying that’s unreliable

[ancient nova]

that by itself would be around 1/10th so 10%

[wheat mesa]

I think that detecting self bots is not something you can do

Otherwise like @lyric mountain said, discord would already be doing this

[ancient nova]

and owners can check peoples % by using a specific command

probably not

[wheat mesa]

“Probably not” - a single dev with access to way less data and resources than an entire multi billion dollar company

[ancient nova]

well that is why i'm saying probably

its less likely because i haven't seen anyone really get banned for self botting

or they do and just don't care lol

[wheat mesa]

And yet that makes you qualified on the methods used to detect them..?

They ban them before you see them most likely

[ancient nova]

if they provide the data for them so might as well create something unique

[wheat mesa]

I think that it’s not fair to assign arbitrary probability values to people based off of data that you just randomly decide makes them to be a selfbot

Hence why your request was denied

It’s not necessary

You just decided it was correlated

[ancient nova]

i mean it's not random, all of the data gatheted together makes quite a good argument for self botting, that's a kind of algorithm

[ancient nova]

which makes sense

person with no activity and staying online on both mobile and browser has a higher chance of self botting and person with activity and only mobile even if just by that 1 or 2%

[sudden geyser]

how's that not fair

that's how any system works

[ancient nova]

^

[lyric mountain]

I imagine you'll also be flooded with false positives on servers with minigames

Since people tend to spam the hell out of it for credits

[wheat mesa]

He is just giving random values to it with absolutely no reliable data other than “I said so”

[ancient nova]

nope, the bot doesn't send notifs unless it goes over 70%, and the notifs can be toggled on and off

[sudden geyser]

well they're clearly not random

[wheat mesa]

He made it up

[sudden geyser]

it doesn't look like it

[ancient nova]

but it makes sense

i don't understand your point

[wheat mesa]

You’re telling me that 1 in 10 discord users that use their phone and have their browser discord open at the same time are self bots? That’s clearly incorrect and unreliable

[lyric mountain]

Waffle means your severity metrics aren't really solid enough

[ancient nova]

no, again, those detections will account to around 25%, u need at least 70% to get a detection

[sudden geyser]

Then it's, at worst, unreliable; not made up.

[lyric mountain]

Like, for such types of detection you usually need a metric of how likely an action is from a selfbot

[ancient nova]

yep

[wheat mesa]

And what makes you think that presence data correlates with selfbotting? Do users that just don’t set statuses selfbot?

It’s not just unreliable it is completely unreliable

[sudden geyser]

that's the same thing

[lyric mountain]

Ye, u don't need presences for detection

[ancient nova]

i imagine you would need a self bot to for exame change your status or presence every 30 seonds right, my bot records that data

[lyric mountain]

Online status doesn't mean anything

[wheat mesa]

I don’t think you’re going to convince discord to give you access to sensitive data with this system

[lyric mountain]

Selfbots also can use offline status

And mobile, while at that

[ancient nova]

i also watch for users sending embeds in chats

[digital swan]

I don’t get why you’re arguing about it. Discord already said no and I highly doubt they would change their mind

[wheat mesa]

Okay that’s the only legitimate thing I’ve seen so far

[lyric mountain]

THAT's a solid proof

But the only one too

[ancient nova]

i didn't really want to share all the methods lol

[wheat mesa]

That has nothing to do with your original complaint; getting presence data

That’s what this is about

[lyric mountain]

Like, for detecting a selfbot u need to watch for bot-exclusive features

[ancient nova]

yeah presence is a part of the detection

[lyric mountain]

Like embeds

[ancient nova]

the system itself is larger

than that

[wheat mesa]

Okay then why do you need presence data that is so clearly unreliable

[ancient nova]

just proving its actual data and not made up

[wheat mesa]

The rest should be enough

[ancient nova]

its nice to have additional data

plus i also use it for other things, such as afk statuses, and game commands

[lyric mountain]

Depends

[ancient nova]

like hangman

[lyric mountain]

There's actually a quote from sun tzu abt that

[wheat mesa]

Ok then while you’re at it why not have my credit card number, SSN, address, phone number, email, and all of my personal data so you can determine if I’m a real person or not

[lyric mountain]

"Even worse than no information, is wrong information"

I think

Been some time since I read art of war

[ancient nova]

that has nothing to do with presence

[wheat mesa]

and you do not need the presence data because it is sensitive on a user to user basis and completely useless for your intended purposes

[ancient nova]

nobody cares if their presence is being checked or not, its literally visible if u click their profile and if it really bothers anyone they can dm me and i'll blacklist them from my bot

[wheat mesa]

Yes they do

Automated systems can determine a lot about you based on your presence. Not everyone is assuming there’s a bot monitoring their status 24/7/365

[lyric mountain]

So...if I had a selfbot I could just ask u to ignore me?

[ancient nova]

no, other detections will still work

i will blacklist u from presence detection

[lyric mountain]

Then u don't need presences if it works without it

[ancient nova]

it works better with them

i think presence is around 40% of the overall self bot detection

so without it it would never even go past 70%

would never trigger a detection

[wheat mesa]

Then it’s a bad system based on what you’re telling me

[lyric mountain]

So by ignoring my selfbot I'd have 40% more chance to pass undetected?

[ancient nova]

its good, it worked before

[ancient nova]

well, that is true

but it was required by discord so i had to do it

might change it up some

[lyric mountain]

Discord didn't ask for it

U just want it for reasons

[ancient nova]

i read advaith notes on that

[wheat mesa]

Discord is not going to give you permission to have access to very personal and sensitive data at a mass scale just because you have some unfounded ideas about how presence is connected with selfbotting

[ancient nova]

wait why are we even discussing this

[wheat mesa]

Because you wanted presence intent

[ancient nova]

i oeignally came here for a another idea to use the intent

[wheat mesa]

And we’re telling you that discord is extremely unlikely to ever give you that even if you have some other feature that needs it

[lyric mountain]

Well ok, I won't try convincing u how pointless the whole thing is, just know this is basically sisyphus' tale

[ancient nova]

at this point i got so many features that use it

[lyric mountain]

You'll chase ur own tail trying to cover the many holes users will find on it

[ancient nova]

2 big ones and other smaller ones in game commands or user info commands

and backend stuff too

[wheat mesa]

Personally if I saw a bot monitoring my presence to see if I’m a selfbot or not then I’d nope the fuck out of that server asap

People do not want software monitoring their personal info so closely for such illegitimate purposes

[lyric mountain]

I'm personally curious to see how this will end up

[wheat mesa]

I don’t even see what the point is even if you do see a likely selfbot. They’re going to get caught just the same as the rest of them, they show that they’re obviously selfbotting some way or another

[ancient nova]

if discord won't give me that then they should just tell me what to change instead of gaslighting me

[wheat mesa]

If anything your bot would cause people to receive way more false bans than true bans from server owners trusting your bot too much

[lyric mountain]

That's not why they didn't give u

Nobody is gaslighting u

The thing is that the reason is way too weak to get a privileged intent

We've been trying to tell u that for a long time

[ancient nova]

bro its not like i'm storing every bit of information on the user, there is just occasional periodic checks, and all i'm storing is basically true of false, is that detection or was it not

[lyric mountain]

The only ever time I used presences was to know when people was online for my tamagotchi module

[ancient nova]

if it's too weak i will find a better one

[lyric mountain]

So the pet wouldn't die when people were sleeping

[ancient nova]

and i use that for games like hangman

[lyric mountain]

...how and why

[ancient nova]

if they go offline theu get kicked out kf the game

[wheat mesa]

inb4 bae says “good idea I’ll make that”

[ancient nova]

the hangman games last between 10m to an hour so it was needed

[wheat mesa]

Fun fact you can go offline without needing to be offline

[lyric mountain]

Ha good luck making a tamagotchi module

[ancient nova]

my bot says u can't go offline during hangman game

[lyric mountain]

Thing is complex af to properly work, part of the reason why I dropped it

[ancient nova]

can't rly be asked to make something that big rn

[lyric mountain]

Btw, as waffle said, u can go offline during the game without getting offline status

There's also the invisible status

[ancient nova]

wot

yeah offline/invisible is treated as kicked out of the game

[lyric mountain]

But what if it's someone who always uses invisible?

Even when online

[ancient nova]

i had to add that cuz ppl were going offline during games n that game was made for big severs

[ancient nova]

they just can't play

[lyric mountain]

Wouldn't be more sensible to add a timer?

[ancient nova]

nope that caused too many problems

[lyric mountain]

...how?

[ancient nova]

ppl would be mad that their time ran out, and it was a big commotion, a more simple way was to add lives on wrong guesses

[lyric mountain]

Just add an option to customize timer

With 0 being disabled

[wheat mesa]

Why patch a hole in a wall with putty when you can replace the entire wall

[lyric mountain]

Also, if someone took longer than, say, 1 minute to make a play then it's player's fault

My tcg uses 3 minutes for WO detection and very few were slow-thinkers

[ancient nova]

that makes ppl mad cuz they have to wait, imagine 10 out of 25 ppl in a row go offline then they have to wait 10 minutes for game to continue

[lyric mountain]

Mostly newbies that didn't read the guide

[ancient nova]

better to detect if they go offline

[wheat mesa]

Then have an option to end the game immediately

[lyric mountain]

Or votekick

[wheat mesa]

Yeah

[ancient nova]

well that would be hella complicated 😭

[wheat mesa]

Not at all but sure

[lyric mountain]

No, that's a proper solution

An example to freeze a game in ur current system: I leave my phone with discord open and go take a shower

Or go to the market, whatever

[ancient nova]

i would have to intruduce another command that goes into that command its a whole other mess to handle

[lyric mountain]

Or worse, I slept

[lyric mountain]

Ur using commands to play?

[ancient nova]

my hangman is activated with a single command and then ppl just put keywords in the chat which make the game work

like end skip or guess

[lyric mountain]

I was supposing u had a runtime for interactive games independent from commands

[ancient nova]

yeah that is what i have

[lyric mountain]

Then how is a votekick too complicated?

[ancient nova]

say a game started and a person has to guess they have to either guess say end or skip

[lyric mountain]

Hangman can't skip, but yeah

[ancient nova]

how would ppl vote kick then? i would have to add a command to do that

[lyric mountain]

Detect players even outside their turns

Just dont allow them to make a guess

[ancient nova]

that would be even more mess to handle

[lyric mountain]

Like votekick @somebody

[lyric mountain]

Then u don't have a proper game runtime

[ancient nova]

it is a bit of a messy code

i would have to change some stuff

[lyric mountain]

Been there, done that, threw it out of the window and rewrote it

[ancient nova]

cuz the way i do it rn it might not work too well

[lyric mountain]

Make it from scratch again

Technical debt ain't worth it

[ancient nova]

well rn i'm gonna have to focus on getting the intent one way or another because i want my bot to go past 100 servers

[ancient nova]

come on that game took me a week to makr 😭

[lyric mountain]

Just give up on the intent, u won't get it with legitimate ways

[ancient nova]

u want me to go through that hell again

[lyric mountain]

Only a week?

[ancient nova]

i have to, at this point my bot relies on it too much

[ancient nova]

"only" 🗿

[lyric mountain]

My runtime took 4 months for v1 + 1 year of QA and bugfixing

[ancient nova]

i dedicated about 4-6 hours of my day for that 🗿🗿

[lyric mountain]

v2 took around 2 months

[ancient nova]

that must've been really big then

[lyric mountain]

Not much

The issue was that I allowed too much technical debt

So I was making holes trying to fix others

My current runtime is rock solid cuz I learnt from my past mistakes

[ancient nova]

well i might have to do that for a couple of my things

[lyric mountain]

Rewrites are always worth it

[ancient nova]

but no way i'm going to remove presence, i'm too deep in this to stop

literally i would have to rewirte 80% of my bot

and that bot took me literal years to do

from the beginning to every command to every rewrite and to every bugfix ever

[lyric mountain]

I can't really imagine how presences would compose 80% of a bot

Don't u have encapsulation?

[ancient nova]

not rly 80% just that most of the functionality relies on passing the presence info from one module to another

[lyric mountain]

Actually, what type of coding are u doing? Functional or oop?

[ancient nova]

so about 80% of all the scriptsin the bot have some part in presence

[sudden geyser]

it's probably just 80% of the purpose

[lyric mountain]

And I suppose ur not using interfaces/abstract classes

[ancient nova]

i think a bit of both

[lyric mountain]

...

[sudden geyser]

what language do you use

[ancient nova]

why not???

[lyric mountain]

With interfaces you'd have to change a single place to affect everywhere

So the changes would be minimal

[wheat mesa]

He’s using js, he’s definitely not doing traditional OOP

[ancient nova]

i'm using a mix of c#, javascript and bash

[sudden geyser]

which one is the majority

[lyric mountain]

How in the fuck

[ancient nova]

javascript is the base

[sudden geyser]

then it's oop

[lyric mountain]

Ah wait, ur seeing github metrics

Since u said bash

[lyric mountain]

Honestly most are using functional js nowadays

[sudden geyser]

uploads binary by accident 99% go

[lyric mountain]

And I hate it

[ancient nova]

js is fine

why??

[sudden geyser]

most js is not functional today

[wheat mesa]

How are you using C# in this project

[ancient nova]

mainly servers and hosting, and some parts of my website

[wheat mesa]

You’re assuming he cares about actually making classes for things tbh, the commands are probably object oriented but the rest is probably functional

[lyric mountain]

Idk, never understood the charm of functional prog

I feel like writing redundant shit without mutability

Perhaps I'm just too used to java

[ancient nova]

wdym everything u writr is mutable to some degree

[sudden geyser]

oop isn't when {}

[lyric mountain]

Not with functional

Functional by definition strives for non-mutable values

[ancient nova]

well in my case i use a mix of both

[sudden geyser]

oop is when let c = new Command(); c.call() c.name

[lyric mountain]

Everything is passed by function calls

[sudden geyser]

functional programming is great

fight me

[ancient nova]

i store everything in a class, which u can call from every script because it is binded to the very core of my bot

[lyric mountain]

I prefer oop, feels cleaner

[lyric mountain]

That's oop

[ancient nova]

but that class is accessible and inside it there is functions to get data, edit data, and remove data

[lyric mountain]

Doesn't matter, keyword is class

[wheat mesa]

No…

[ancient nova]

but in it there is also prewritten stuffa

[wheat mesa]

That’s still OOP

[ancient nova]

and functikn which cannot be changed

[wheat mesa]

Wait I’m dumb

I thought you said that’s what functional is

Ignore me

[ancient nova]

🗿

btw i just hit a new PR with my bots uptime

month and a half of uptime with no downtime

[lyric mountain]

is it open source?

[ancient nova]

nope

[lyric mountain]

Thought so

[ancient nova]

i don't get the appeal of having open sourced bots tbj

tbh

[lyric mountain]

Well for one, u get some perks in certain services

[ancient nova]

technicallt everyone can look at and steal ur hard work

it kinda bothers me

so i only open source stuff i didn't spend a long time making

[lyric mountain]

The other is that it allows u to ask people to help u fix issues on it, and increase user trust

[lyric mountain]

They can't

And even then, nobody would bother to

[sudden geyser]

people do

[ancient nova]

they can, and trust me they would

[lyric mountain]

No they cant, not if u license it

[ancient nova]

i can't even count the times i went on github and steal some of others ppl code 🗿

[sudden geyser]

you think they care about licenses?

[ancient nova]

this^

[lyric mountain]

Well, if they get famous u can use it as a resource

[ancient nova]

and if their bot is closed source nobody would even know lol

[sudden geyser]

good luck actually enforcing it for a small bot

[ancient nova]

yeah this alsp

[sudden geyser]

if it's large then sure if you can bother

[ancient nova]

my bot would probably hit about 1k servers by now

[sudden geyser]

mee6 not about to let their code get exposed

[ancient nova]

buut obviously discord won't give me the intent

[lyric mountain]

If it's small nobody would bother to search for its source code

[sudden geyser]

some people do

[lyric mountain]

Unless u wrote the next billion-dollar code

[ancient nova]

i meannnnnnn

[lyric mountain]

And what good would it do to them?

[ancient nova]

😳😳

[ancient nova]

they have the same commands my bot has

making my bot useless

[lyric mountain]

Ever heard of coca-cola?

[ancient nova]

yes

[lyric mountain]

If your bot does something well, you make an image for yourself

[ancient nova]

they don't share their recipe that's why copycats like dr. pepper taste like poop

(imo)

[lyric mountain]

Even if others try to copy it, everyone will know yours is tge original

Heck if it was so simple I could just clone loritta and get a famous bot

[ancient nova]

well my bot so far hasn't made an image for itself soooo yeah

[lyric mountain]

People won't copy a nobody's bot

[ancient nova]

they do

[lyric mountain]

What even is there to steal?

[ancient nova]

idk, my website css, my bots framework, my bots functions or classes, its commands or almost anything tbh

[lyric mountain]

If they clone 1:1 of ur bot they'll get a bunch of unmaintainable code

If they try to publish to topgg they'll get denied

If they publish on any other list u can recur to the license

[ancient nova]

i still don't see the point

[lyric mountain]

At best it'll be used as a private bot of a 10-member server

[ancient nova]

i don't wanna deal with a bunch of kids stealing my code

[lyric mountain]

That's the thing, u think a bunch of kids would even know what to do with that code?

[ancient nova]

probably

[lyric mountain]

They'll buy a server, setup a database, bother to maintain a whole bot at their own?

[ancient nova]

i mean i sometimes look at other peoples code when making games to see how they did it

or see how people did the stuff i did

[solemn latch]

Isn't that a good thing?

[lyric mountain]

That's just taking reference

[ancient nova]

and if they did it better than me i will obviously take the code 🗿

[lyric mountain]

Like reading a cooking book

[ancient nova]

tbh no, i personally wouldn't want that

[lyric mountain]

Or reading an academic research

[wheat mesa]

Unless you’re going to make money off of it or you’ve been contracted by a company and under an NDA or something, I don’t see why open sourcing is an issue

[ancient nova]

or make a paid version of my bot

[wheat mesa]

Then you can C&D them

If the license prevents commercial use

[lyric mountain]

Not even, why would people use a paid bot if yours is free?

[wheat mesa]

^

[ancient nova]

stealing my work is one thing

[ancient nova]

they might not know my bot exists

[wheat mesa]

Your work is comprised of like 300 different people’s thoughts when you ask for help on things

Just saying

[lyric mountain]

And copied code

[wheat mesa]

^

[lyric mountain]

What will u be losing then?

[ancient nova]

a code which i understand and copied it together myself 🗿

[wheat mesa]

Ah yes because that makes it your work 😉

[ancient nova]

it's not like the whole bot is compromised of people giving me code

[wheat mesa]

You know there’s a word for that in English classes… plagiarism C:

[solemn latch]

Which speaking of, you may be expected by some of the licenses of code you copied to make it open source.

Some licenses expect you to make anything you use open source.

[lyric mountain]

Ah, that too lul

Fear the GPL

[wheat mesa]

I was going to copy paste a simple vector2 class from someone’s GitHub, then I saw the license and didn’t want to bother with all of that and just made my own

[solemn latch]

You also might not have the license to make profit(and therefore anyone who would copy the bot anyway)

[ancient nova]

so me writing a script, getting stuck on one line, getting help for that one liner and getting on with mt life afterwards make it not mine?

[wheat mesa]

No, but saying that everything you did was your work and yours alone would be a false statement

[lyric mountain]

Anyway my bot is licensed under GPL, it contains an intricate game framework and the entire tcg module

I would feel bad for whoever tried to copy it

[wheat mesa]

And that applies to literally every project on the planet

[ancient nova]

well the part which was my work i would not want other people using

[wheat mesa]

Someone else’s work was used at some point in the process

[lyric mountain]

And the many nights trying to understand how to use it

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I tried using your repo to understand reflection, it was actually pretty understandable

[ancient nova]

rip

[wheat mesa]

Java is verbose, but very readable

[ancient nova]

java is one of the languages where u get stuck at first but then it just becomes a part of your life

[wheat mesa]

I love Java

It’s the C of OOP languages

[ancient nova]

yeah

one of my first games i made in 2018 was in java 😳

[lyric mountain]

Why thank you

The issue is trying to manage the bot itself

[wheat mesa]

Yeah you have a LOT of code in there

[lyric mountain]

Much less now after the rewrite

[ancient nova]

you would hate reading my games code prob

i write my c# like i write my js

(very unreadable for people besides myself)

[wheat mesa]

Yeah if it’s anything like that than I would pity whoever has to look at it

I hope your formatting is better since visual studio is pretty strict on auto formatting C#

[ancient nova]

i use vsc 🙄

[wheat mesa]

Unless you specifically fight the formatter so you can save 3 lines

[lyric mountain]

https://github.com/OtagamerZ/ShiroJBot/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kuuhaku/utils/Helper.java what waffle meant probably lul

[wheat mesa]

Oh god

VSC for C#?????

Maniac

[lyric mountain]

Darker times, nowadays I don't write behemoths for helper classes

...mostly

[wheat mesa]

Exactly what I was talking about

[ancient nova]

i'm just built different

🗿🗿🗿

[lyric mountain]

Wait, vsc for cs?

[wheat mesa]

Bro you’re just intentionally making developing difficult for yourself

At that point

[ancient nova]

that's A LOT of imports dammm

[ancient nova]

why

[lyric mountain]

Ah that's normal, intellij prefers individual imports over package imports

[ancient nova]

i am good with vsc

[lyric mountain]

I never write a single import

[wheat mesa]

Also @lyric mountain why did you make it an abstract class instead of just making a private constructor?

[ancient nova]

intelisense installed, formatting done the way i code

[wheat mesa]

Show me some C#

[lyric mountain]

Cuz it doesn't have a single instance metgod

It's all static

[wheat mesa]

I know

[ancient nova]

hold on

[wheat mesa]

But you could make it a private constructor and would function the same

[lyric mountain]

Abstract classes tell the runtime I won't be instantiating it

[wheat mesa]

Ah

[ancient nova]

let me get some screenshots cuz i cba getting on my pc

[wheat mesa]

Some sort of optimization perhaps?

[lyric mountain]

Ig so, but I usually do it out of habit too

Abstracts are never instantiated, only extended

[wheat mesa]

I usually prefer private constructor but they both serve the same purpose

(In this case)

[ancient nova]

here is some

[lyric mountain]

Probably

I wonder what would be the generated bytecode in both cases

[wheat mesa]

acceptable though visual studio would’ve put the brackets on separate lines

Though I do prefer the Java brackets now

[ancient nova]

yeah i had to manually disable that

[lyric mountain]

Inline brackets ftw

[ancient nova]

i didn't like that it makes the code look messier imo

more spread out

[wheat mesa]

Though you do have quite a few explicit type usages when you could just use var for simplicity

But again not a terrible practice

[ancient nova]

yeah had people say that

but if i know what the variable is gonna be whh should i use var tbh

[wheat mesa]

C# prefers type inference when available

I also like rust for that reason, everything that can be inferred is inferred

[lyric mountain]

Rust enforces it?

[wheat mesa]

No no

Just the way it’s written strays you away from it because it declares variables like typescript

let variable_name: TypeName = initializer;

[lyric mountain]

Ah

[wheat mesa]

Since you don’t write the type first often times you’ll just end up letting the compiler infer

[ancient nova]

@wheat mesa u would really hate me for the way i write my js though 😭😭

[wheat mesa]

Rust has really advanced inference too

I do hate the way you write js

[ancient nova]

thanks

[lyric mountain]

Lmao sorry bae, but we usually refer to the "bae-o-meter" when people appear here with peculiar code

[ancient nova]

thanks 🗿🗿🗿

has anyone ever reached my level of code

[lyric mountain]

No, but close

[ancient nova]

dang

[lyric mountain]

A guy that used }; let stuff = ...;

[ancient nova]

one of the best things to do to make your code more compact 😌

people should learn from me

[lyric mountain]

And nier unreadable

[ancient nova]

doesn't make a difference to me

maybe even more readable

anyways i'm gonna go already i'm tired asf

gn

and happy new year

[lyric mountain]

Cya

[spark flint]

is it possible to delete dms from a bot, djs

[lyric mountain]

technically, yes

but it isn't feasible

[sudden geyser]

Can you actually delete DMs? I thought you could only close them.

[spark flint]

was trying to censor a ban DM

lmao

[lyric mountain]

Yes, "deleting" would be purging the whole chat and closing it

Tho actually, it'd not be possible

Since u cant delete the other side's messages

Nvm then

[earnest phoenix]

you can delete the bot's messages, the rest will stay

the dm will also still be open for the other party, you have no control over that

[pulsar maple]

umm.. is topgg made using scratch

[sudden geyser]

no

[pulsar maple]

wait what

[wheat mesa]

hmm... troll account

nice

[knotty quartz]

Waffle, I have a Database: sequelize

I am confused as in how to make a blacklist system using this database.

[craggy pine]

Under the assumption you mean like blacklisting a user from using commands you can do this in a multitude of ways.

Lets say you use /blacklist <user> what you could do is insert that data into your database. What I would do is the username and id to make it simple.

Then in the command handler you could code something like.

//fetch user by userid and store it in a variable

if(interaction.user.id === databaseVariable) {
//return whatever you want here.
}

[indigo cobalt]

You can always mess with the local HTML and remove the unwanted messages.

[spark flint]

Its someone else who got banned via the bot

[knotty quartz]

Yes blacklisting a user.

[spark flint]

just wanted to know if its possile

[indigo cobalt]

If you're the owner of the bot yes if not only the "someone else" / bot owner is able to do it.

[knotty quartz]

How would I fetch it to add the user into database? Then I can probably do that but in reverse for removing it

[craggy pine]

I mean I only know how to do this in mariadb. But there should be an insert method to yours and also a fetch.

For example for me mine is

async function fetch() {
    try {
        let connect = await pool.getConnection();
        return connect
    } catch(err) {
        console.log(err)
    }
}```

[spark flint]

Yes I am the bot owner

[indigo cobalt]

Then you'd fetch the users dm channel.

Then fetch the messages and fins the one you want to remove.

Then when you do just call the <message>.delete() method.

At least it used to be like that.

[knotty quartz]

Ty"

[spark flint]

I tried fetching the DM channel, nothing gets returned

[indigo cobalt]

Let me see the documentation. I haven't used djs in a while.
Have you got the message intents?

[spark flint]

Yes

It is a private moderation bot for a large server so we have all intents enabled

[indigo cobalt]

Did you use the <Client>.channels.fetch(some_id) ?

It returns a promise so it has to be resolved.

[spark flint]

It didn't return anything for the DM channel

fetching the user and then doing .DMChannel returned nothing

i can't remember the captilisation but i followed the docs

[indigo cobalt]

Have you got the message ID?

That you want to get.

[spark flint]

Nope

[indigo cobalt]

From the docs.

You should then cache the user.

Then get dmchannel

It should return a DMChannel

Then inside of it you can check the messages.

[maiden gazelle]

hi does somebody know whats wrong here and can help me with it

const Discord = require("discord.js");

exports.run = async (bot, message) => {
let embed = new Discord.EmbedBuilder()
       .setDescription(`You can find all the commands in the selection below.`)
        embed.setColor("#2E3192")
    
        const row = new Discord.ActionRowBuilder()
            .addComponents(
                new Discord.SelectMenuBuilder()
                    .setCustomId('select')
                    .setPlaceholder('Nothing selected')
                    .addOptions(
                        {
                            label: 'Select me',
                            description: 'This is a description',
                            value: 'first_option',
                        },
                        {
                            label: 'You can select me too',
                            description: 'This is also a description',
                            value: 'second_option',
                        },
                    ),
            );
    
await interaction.reply({ content: [embed], compontents: [row] });
    exports.help = {
    name: 'help', 
    aliases: [],
    }
}

[wheat mesa]

you have given us no information on what is actually wrong

[maiden gazelle]

oh yea sorry it says interaction is not defined at the bottom

[wheat mesa]

because it's not defined, you have no variable named interaction

[deft wolf]

U have message

But not interaction

[maiden gazelle]

but i have that in none of my commands

[wheat mesa]

I would highly recommend learning javascript before copy pasting code from the internet

[deft wolf]

And its not even slash command i guess

[maiden gazelle]

its a normal command

i have much slashcommands

but im new with normal commands

[deft wolf]

Just change interaction to message

[maiden gazelle]

okay

[eternal osprey]

would a collector in djsv13 actually 'pause' a while loop or would the while loop just move on without waiting till the actual collector stopped?

Because right now i happen to have the issue where it keeps on spamming the while loop without the collector being fully done

(I am trying to repeat a certain collector as long as a certain variable is not in the correct format)

[lyric mountain]

depends

if the collector is async it'll run in a different moment

else it'll stop the loop

[eternal osprey]

collector is indeed async

[lyric mountain]

the same applies for anything in any programming lang

async = parallel

which means it's non-blocking

[eternal osprey]

ah i see

so removing the async should make the while loop work?

[lyric mountain]

there's a misunderstanding here

the while loop IS working

the issue is that you need to wait for the async task to return something

[eternal osprey]

yeah it is, but due to the async it will run seperate from the while right?

[lyric mountain]

yes, unless you await it

[eternal osprey]

hmm

so i could just remove the async so that they would align in runtime?

[lyric mountain]

you cant remove the async

djs built-in collector is async

[eternal osprey]

owh fuck

what should we do then?

[lyric mountain]

await

[eternal osprey]

await on the actual collector or while?

[lyric mountain]

sigh

what is async? the while or the collector?

[eternal osprey]

the collector.end and collect.on

collector*

[lyric mountain]

await can only be used on async stuff (well, in a way that it does anything at all)

connect the pieces now

[eternal osprey]

we await the collector obv.

[lyric mountain]

Yes

[weary cradle]

Hi everyone I’m very new here and I’m trying to learn how to do things to better my profile and server.

[eternal osprey]

I've used the await on the collector

sadly it's still spamming everything

 while(boolhit1 && boolhit2 || !boolhit1 && !boolhit2){
                                                         boolhit1 = false
                                                         boolhit2 = false
                               
                                                            const collector5 = r.createMessageComponentCollector({filter1,
                                                              componentType: "BUTTON",
                                                              time: 10000,
                                                              max: 1,
                                                            });
                                      
                                                           await collector5.on("collect", async (i) => {
                                                              if(i.member.id !== gamedatabase[key].user1){
                                                                return;
                                                              }```

[lyric mountain]

That's cuz ur making an event inside a loop

on doesn't return anything

[eternal osprey]

but we had to use the await on the collector right?

Isn't this exactly what we are doing

[lyric mountain]

Not really

Ur creating an event listener there

Also on isn't async per se

It just executes a task that might be async

[eternal osprey]

i know that i am creating an event listener

but like, the djs v13 collector itself is an event listener right?

[lyric mountain]

Apparently

[eternal osprey]

so what should i do else? Maybe remove the while loop and have some sort of other way to do this?

[lyric mountain]

Check the docs to see how to properly await for a single message

Also, why are u using a loop btw?

[eternal osprey]

it's not really a message

but a button

I am trying to make a user click a certain button, if not the right one is selected, it will repeat the process

hence the while

[lyric mountain]

Collectors have filters no?

[eternal osprey]

ye

i've added those but excluded them

[lyric mountain]

Simply put the button check in it

It won't execute unless the correct button is pressed

[eternal osprey]

i tried simplifying what i was doing in my explanation. I am trying to catch the input of 1 user, get the input of another user and then compare them to see whether a user made a goal.

It's basically a 1v1 shootout

where one is a keeper and other one the shooter

i try to keep on repeating this game till someone has scored as you can see

only problem that as soon as i reach my endgame it keeps on spamming this shit multiple times when i click a button

[lyric mountain]

U should write a proper game runtime for such interactive games

[eternal osprey]

yeah i know but this is just a temporary solution for now

as i want to present it to my friends

so its not really something too serious tbh

Only thing i am trying to figure out rn is how i can make sure my while loop doesn't start a new interation till my actual collector is done

[lyric mountain]

I smell technical debt, but well

See the docs to see if there's any way to collect a single press

[eternal osprey]

technical debt?

[lyric mountain]

If there isn't, use a promise to lock the loop, then resolve it inside the collector

[lyric mountain]

Things you leave for later but forget about it

It snowballs very quickly and can easily make the code unmaintainable

As bugs start to grow from the ground

[eternal osprey]

Yeah that's true, the whole code is done already tho so this would be the only thing to fix and then i can play it with my friends

If it was something for public use or anything i would've used actual functions etc, but i thought that they were not really needed atm

[eternal osprey]

Well, yeah the listener (collector.end) is one.

The max is set to 1, so it stops the collector when a button was pressed.

Problem is that it continously tries to only run the first part inside the while and then reloop

May i show you the snippet of the while?

[lyric mountain]

Done for now

[lyric mountain]

Then use a promise as I said

[eternal osprey]

the async/await?

I have tried that already but it doesn;t work

[lyric mountain]

I said promise, not await

const lock = new Promise()

Then await it and resolve inside the event

[eternal osprey]

i see, so i will await the lock at the begin of the while loop, and then use .then(function(value){....} )?

Never worked with promises but this is what was on w3schools

[lyric mountain]

You will await right after you add the event

[lyric mountain]

You'll use resolve

[eternal osprey]

and imagine that we would have 2 events?

[lyric mountain]

One

[eternal osprey]

Because i am having one collector.on and one collector.end

[lyric mountain]

I have no idea what ur doing, but you just need a single event to process the press and release the lock

[eternal osprey]

yeah i am lost in this promise as well

[lyric mountain]

Promise is just a task that might complete later

[eternal osprey]

    var promise = Promise.resolve(17468);
    
    promise.then(function(val) {
    console.log(val);
    });
    //Output: 17468

```I see, i am following this little snippet to basically understand it a bit more

[lyric mountain]

Then is just a chain

And that snippet doesn't make any sense

[eternal osprey]

it's on geeksforgeeks

but a promise.resolve basically returns a value that is trapped inside right? But how would it fix our timer issue?

[lyric mountain]

const lock = new Promise();
collector.on("collect", evt => lock.resolve(true));
await lock;

For example

[eternal osprey]

oowh

i see now!

Will try it out then.

that const lock = ...

must be placed outside the while i suppose

[lyric mountain]

No

Else it'll only lock a single time

[eternal osprey]

i see

and for each single collector i must create a new lock right?

Or only 1 for ALL collectors?

Suppose i have 2 collector.on

[lyric mountain]

You need to create a new lock for every single time you want to lock

Just make sure collector.on doesn't stay alive after resolving it

Else it'll memo leak

[earnest phoenix]

Uh, what the hell are you even trying to do exactly?

[lyric mountain]

He's trying to await a collector event

[solemn latch]

why not just use the event itself?

[lyric mountain]

Well...scroll up

I'm not sure what I'm looking at tbh, I just know that they want to run collectors inside a while loop

[solemn latch]

this right?

I dont think creating a promise is essential, nor the most readable/efficent way of doing this.

[lyric mountain]

I don't know if there are other ways of awaiting the collector result

[earnest phoenix]

There's a complete misunderstanding here, you can't halt the while loop from iterating like this when you're using a collector because that's not how promises work, the way you can achieve this is to make a function and put your entire code you want to run repeatedly, and once your conditions are met or the code has run the way you want it to, call the function again

Basically recursion

[lyric mountain]

U can't use promises as locks?

[eternal osprey]

hmm? Yeah this is what i am trying to do.

[eternal osprey]

Oehh recently got that in c++;

[solemn latch]

wouldnt you just create a new collector each time the last has ended, until a win condition is met.

[eternal osprey]

essentially what i am doing atm

With the while

[solemn latch]

no need for a while loop, just create one inside the event callback

[eternal osprey]

not sure whether that would work?

Might need to show yall the snippet of the while

[solemn latch]

thats how other bots make turn based games.

[eternal osprey]

so you guys can see what i actually have

[lyric mountain]

For my runtime I just make a single collector that handles everything

The entire turn logic runs inside it

[solemn latch]

^ that works too

[lyric mountain]

Just make sure only the playing users are captured

After that it's just checking if the user is equal to the current player

[eternal osprey]

owh wow that is actually pretty smart

I will do that the first thing in the morning then, thanks yall for the help

[lyric mountain]

U said u didn't want to make a proper runtime when I told u earlier ;-;

[eternal osprey]

the problem with this is

that i only use 1 general collector right

but that collector is bound to a message

so after all these user actions, i would want to send another message and create another collector etc etc

but that wouldn't be possible within the while

that's what i've been trying to avoid

[lyric mountain]

You'd need to use a collector that isn't bound to anything

[eternal osprey]

owh is it possible for a buttoncollector to not bind to a message?

[lyric mountain]

Then filter to grab only of the specified message's buttons

[earnest phoenix]

Promises are just a floating state that holds an uncertain value, which can be either resolved or rejected, the program will keep going until you resolve the promise with the await keyword which'll halt the execution until the promise has been resolved, consider the following:

while (true) {
  const foo = new Promise((resolve) => setTimeout(resolve, 5_000));

  console.log('bar');
  await foo;
  console.log('baz');
}

This'll work as expected, it'll wait between each console.log() call for 5 seconds, and the while loop also waits for it

But consider this scenario:

while (true) {
  const foo = new Promise((resolve) => setTimeout(resolve, 5_000));

  // Let's say `bar` is a collector.
  bar.on('collect', async () => await foo);

  console.log('bar');
}

This one won't work the way you might expect it to, because the callback may or may not be called, and so the iteration keeps going and doesn't wait for the execution to be fully completed

What you're thinking of are mutexes and their locks, promises however, work differently

[lyric mountain]

I thought they worked like java's CompletableFuture (or just Future)

[eternal osprey]

https://discordjs.guide/popular-topics/collectors.html#basic-message-component-collector we sadly can't remove the message

where the collector will be bound to

[earnest phoenix]

You can

[eternal osprey]

owh i can?

[earnest phoenix]

All messages (except the ones the bot doesn't have permission to delete) can be deleted

It doesn't matter if a collector is bound to it or not

Although be sure to stop the collector before deleting it, because the collector may throw an error if it's not finished collecting yet

[solemn latch]

I've never thought about it throwing an error if deleted.

Good thing to keep an eye on

[craggy pine]

Does discord.js have a way for a user to simply select "on" or "off" without me specifying a value like String or Number? These are sub commands. Like if someone hits "on" I don't need it to use a String choice 'on' I can call which option they selected?

            name: 'auto-play',
            description: 'Makes the music player default to auto playing',
            type: 1,
            options: [
              {
                name: 'on',
                description: 'Turn on auto play | Will queue related songs',
                type: 3, // string
                required: false,
                choices: [{name: 'on', value: 'on'}]
              },
              {
                name: 'off',
                description: 'Turns off auto play',
                type: 3,
                required: false,
                choices: [{name: 'off', value: 'off'}]
              }

[sudden geyser]

there are booleans

which is a 5 for type

[craggy pine]

I see.

Knew that was there, wasn't sure if it was what I wanted but I'll test it out

[sudden geyser]

Though I personally think a single option like status of "on" or "off" (or even called play with a boolean) would be better, since the fields are likely mutually exclusive

[craggy pine]

Well it's nested within my settings command

it's for my database for initialize my queue

So I think understanding what you mean.

            name: 'auto-play',
            description: 'Makes the music player default to auto playing',
            type: 1,
            options: [
              {
                name: 'status',
                description: 'Turn on auto play | Will queue related songs',
                type: 3, // string
                required: false,
                options: [{name: "on", description: "on"}, {name: "off", description: "off"}]
              },

[craggy pine]

but wouldn't I have to still specify boolean in type n whatever

oh no I think I get it.

[sudden geyser]

It would mean that the command is run like /set auto-play status:on

[craggy pine]

ya I get you.

Hm.

I'll play around with my options.

[hasty mulch]

Does this output the responses as fields or just one big description?

A friend sent me this since I don't know JS

[wheat mesa]

man that's a lot of spaghetti

[hasty mulch]

Connecting Google Form to Discord

[wheat mesa]

why would you not just https://tryitands.ee/

from the look of it, should just be in the description

[hasty mulch]

I can't try it and see because I can't see what Discord sees it as

[wheat mesa]

But I cannot confirm whether or not the rest of the code actually works, I just looked at what you're sending in the POST request to discord

[sharp geyser]

What in the hell is that code

[hasty mulch]

@sharp geyser

[sharp geyser]

Oh I read that

thats not why I asked

First off why are you initiating the webhooks array with an empty string

just seems like you'll have an empty string in there on top of the webhooks I assume you will be pushing to the array

which is no bueno