development

[spark flint]

am i stupid

yes

ok

😭

[lyric mountain]

map is a function

[boreal iron]

Show the code please

[boreal iron]

[tribal crow]

https://sourceb.in/zD7i3vyrhw

[spark flint]

so js if (member._roles.some(role => staffRoles.includes(role => role.id))) return 0; else if (member._roles.some(role => highLevels.includes(role => role.id))) return 3600000; else if (member._roles.some(role => mediumLevels.includes(role => role.id))) return 7200000; else if (member._roles.some(role => lowLevels.includes(role => role.id))) return 10800000; else return 21600000;

or am i misinterpreting this

[boreal iron]

Both are just items of your array, aren’t they?

[fervent moss]

Im stupid i cant figure out this thing...
I'm making an /emoji-search command
I cache emojis from client by a doecifig term and set it in array now how do i do it like emojis show up in button when i use command and laso when i press button it get added to server?

[spark flint]

yeah

[boreal iron]

So array.some(role => other_array.includes(role));

[spark flint]

how did it take this long for me to get this sorted

[boreal iron]

I’m on mobile… takes me a few minutes until im back to my Pc

[tribal crow]

thats ok :)

[earnest phoenix]

yandev xd

[spark flint]

???

[boreal iron]

Idk… did you try to hammer your head against your keyboard for st least 10 times?

[earnest phoenix]

if else if (MEME)

[spark flint]

yes

[boreal iron]

lmao

[spark flint]

yeah but what does that have in relation to yandev

idek what that means 😭

[earnest phoenix]

I only wrote it because of the if else, don't worry

[lyric mountain]

https://twitter.com/flstudiodemo/status/1280936542148743185

see you later (@flstudiodemo)

yandere simulator code is the funniest thing to me

Twitter · Jul 8, 2020, 6:47 PM

[spark flint]

ah

[earnest phoenix]

C# - didn't expect that there

[surreal sage]

Anybody know a dependency where you can input HTML and get a .png returned?

Kinda like making a puppeteer screenshot but without puppeteer

Ping on response

[lyric mountain]

you cannot "input html and get an image"

those libs use some kind of internal browser to render the webpage and THEN screenshot it

[earnest phoenix]

as someone who uses shard for the first time in his life, this is good

userCount: async function (client) {
    var count = 0;
    var shard_guilds = await client.shard.broadcastEval((c) =>
      c.guilds.cache.map((guild) => guild.id)
    );
    shard_guilds.forEach((guilds_S) => {
      guilds_S.forEach((guild) => {
        count += client.guilds.cache
          .get(guild)
          .members.cache.filter((member) => !member.user.bot).size;
      });
    });
    console.log(count);
  },

[lyric mountain]

html by itself is just code, useless without a browser to interpret it

[lyric mountain]

no

[earnest phoenix]

No need of specifically a browser to render HTML and get a picture out of it

[earnest phoenix]

just the var or the whole thing?

[lyric mountain]

the var

never use var, always let

[lyric mountain]

I mean, yeah u could technically parse the html by yourself into an image

[earnest phoenix]

usually to be const much

[lyric mountain]

either use let or const, depending if u need to change the value or not

never var, var is a curse from darker times

[boreal iron]

Java devs trying to make the world better but infecting 3 billion devices with their malware

smh

[lyric mountain]

without java you'd not have credit cards

[boreal iron]

IM PAYING CASH BITCH

[lyric mountain]

php programmer most wanted by interpol

[boreal iron]

[earnest phoenix]

return count why Promise { <pending> }

var count = 0;
    const shard_guilds = await client.shard.broadcastEval((c) =>
      c.guilds.cache.map((guild) => guild.id)
    );
    shard_guilds.forEach((guilds_S) => {
      guilds_S.forEach((guild) => {
        count += client.guilds.cache
          .get(guild)
          .members.cache.filter((member) => !member.user.bot).size;
      });
    });
    return count;

(for of)

[lyric mountain]

var, again

and use forof for iterating, instead of forEach

forEach is pretty bad for its overhead

[earnest phoenix]

that's why var mer const cannot be edited

[lyric mountain]

use let

[earnest phoenix]

oo

and I know it will be for of

[lyric mountain]

let is literally the non-psycho version of var

use userCount for retrieving guild user count

or memberCount, I don't remember

instead of retrieving the member cache

[earnest phoenix]

filter bot

member count includes bots

[lyric mountain]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

console.log anyway
returns the value

[lyric mountain]

then the error isn't there

[earnest phoenix]

oo

[lyric mountain]

if console.log is returning the value, that is

[earnest phoenix]

tools.userCount(client).then((err) => {
      console.log(err);
    });

return 4
why

[lyric mountain]

cache usually doesn't keep everything at all times

so it'll never return the real value

[earnest phoenix]

How can I find out the truth?
bots filtered out

[lyric mountain]

well that's an issue

[earnest phoenix]

pretty good

[lyric mountain]

I imagine u have some kind of xp system right?

or currency, whatever

[earnest phoenix]

I don't have any at the moment, I just want to write the user numbers in the status, but it doesn't show the truth

[lyric mountain]

do u have anything that stores users in the database?

[wheat mesa]

That’s… not how that works 😭

[earnest phoenix]

not yet but there will be

[wheat mesa]

await tools.userCount(client)

You have to await promises

[lyric mountain]

it'd be better if u used your database to get the user count

[earnest phoenix]

await aaaaaaaaa

[wheat mesa]

^

Otherwise you’ll be constantly spamming the API and potentially getting ratelimited

[earnest phoenix]

Requests it every 15 seconds

[wheat mesa]

Yeah. That’s bad

Because there is no “usercount” endpoint, it is getting the counts of each guild one by one

[earnest phoenix]

since KuuHaKu said db that's why I'm going to use it

[lyric mountain]

well, db as in any kind of persistence you might come to use

for sql it'd be a simple SELECT COUNT(1) FROM users

[earnest phoenix]

I'm pretty good at db

but thanks

[lyric mountain]

"at db" ok

[earnest phoenix]

@lyric mountain so how is this api stuff?
Client.js (MEssage create)

if (message.author.bot) return;
    if (message.channel.type === 'DM') return;
    // Add a connect listenerű
    let prefix = cc.prefix;
    let lang = cc.lang;
    socket.emit('getServerData', {
      guild: message.guild,
    });
    socket.on('getServerData', (res) => {
      prefix = res.prefix;
      lang = res.lang;
      if (message.content.startsWith(prefix)) {
        const [cmdName, ...cmdArgs] = message.content
          .slice(prefix.length)
          .trim()
          .split(/\s+/);
        const command = client.commands.get(cmdName);
        if (!command.data) {
          if (command) {
            command.run(client, message, cmdArgs, prefix, tools);
          }
        }
      }
    });

ws (socket.io)

let con = app.con;
socket.on('connect', (socket) => {
  socket.on('getServerData', (res) => {
    con.query(
      `SELECT * FROM guilds WHERE id=? LIMIT 1`,
      [res.guild.id],
      (err, row) => {
        if (row.length === 0) {
          con.query(`INSERT guilds SET id=?, name=?`, [
            res.guild.id,
            res.guild.name,
          ]);
        }
        socket.emit('getServerData', {
          prefix: row[0].prefix,
          lang: row[0].lang,
        });
      }
    );
  });
});

problem 😢

for the second message, the socket returns value twice

[lyric mountain]

Because u have .on inside .on

So for each connect event, u start listening to getServerData

Connect doesn't happen only once

[earnest phoenix]

where?

oo

[lyric mountain]

Second line from ur second code

[earnest phoenix]

ok, but if there is no connect, the socket will not receive the other events

why

for the second message, message content console.log

duble send

[earnest phoenix]

bug fixed

[boreal iron]

what's the error again? sorry I'm a bit off

[lyric mountain]

u don't need to register events inside connect

connect is an event by itself

put inside it what u need to run after estabilishing connection, ONLY

not other events

[earnest phoenix]

I've been using it ever since and it works perfectly, so thank you for your kindness, kisses on the cheek ❤️

[lyric mountain]

doesn't mean it's the proper way to do it

[boreal iron]

never change a running system

[rustic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sorry-cow-no-feet-mammary-gland-walk-gif-16776604

discord

for fuck sake

[tribal crow]

this is the problem

[boreal iron]

${userFtchd.username}#${userFtchd.discriminator} is the issue

a member object doesn't have that properties

an user object does

so access the user object

userFtchd.user.username

userFtchd.user.discriminator

or much more easier

replace ${userFtchd.username}#${userFtchd.discriminator} by ${userFtchd.user.tag}

The Discord "tag" (e.g. hydrabolt#0001) for this user

[tribal crow]

aaaah

i forgot

lemme try

tysm

[boreal iron]

👍

[worthy egret]

bro can someone add Rem the discord bot because im trying on fucking top.gg but it does not wanna work

[tribal crow]

Ok i don't know if this is a problem or if its a result of them not being in the same server as the bot, but rn it only displays the people from one server

[worthy egret]

pls help me i want the rem bot

[boreal iron]

dude, this isn't a support server for whatever bot

[worthy egret]

jesus christ im just saying i cant get the fucking bot i do the im not a robot type of shit because i am trying so fucking hard and i feel like ninja losing fucking fornite

[tribal crow]

Do you have a minute, FakE?

or

many minutes?

[wheat mesa]

This is not the channel for that, chill out

Go to their support server

[worthy egret]

😦

ok thanks

[wheat mesa]

We don’t know anything about specific bots

[tribal crow]

nvm

[boreal iron]

sure, what's up

[worthy egret]

i dont fucking know where the fuck is the fucking support server

[boreal iron]

stop crying around like a kid, my gosh

we don't know either

[tribal crow]

ok so whenever it continues (after finding users thats no longer in the same guild as the bot), it just skips them. I want to then place #4 to #3, #9 to #4 and then keep going like that until it reaches #10

[boreal iron]

you need to do it differently entirely

[quartz kindle]

push them to a new array for example

[boreal iron]

something like that

const users = UserProfiles.sort((a, b) => b.bank - a.bank);
const members = [];

for(const user of users)
{
    const guild = interaction.client.guilds.cache.get(user.guildID);
    
    if(!guild) continue;
    
    const member = await guild.members.fetch(user.userID);
    
    if(!member) continue;
    
    members.push(member.user);

    if(members.length === 10) break;
}

for(let i = 0; i < members.length; i++) embed.addField(`#${i + 1}`, `${members[i].tag} - \`⌬ ${fNum(user.bank + user.wallet)}\``);

keep in mind what I said earlier

that's an horrible solution and you will get ratelimited hard, probably

[tribal crow]

im trying somehting rn

[boreal iron]

what I wrote as example will iterate through your user list until you have 10 reachable members

or until any sorted user has been "looped throgh"

[tribal crow]

so i will get ratelimited by using that code?

better with 5?

[boreal iron]

will it could happen, yes but probably not

it would make sense to store 10 user IDs in an array then request them at once but yeah...

I assume you will be fine, might take a second or two

[tribal crow]

ok so when i try to log the money thats in [i]'s bank, it somewhy logs 2 different banks

it logs [i]'s bank and someone elses

[boreal iron]

Hmm?

You need to show us what you mean

[tribal crow]

let dbUser = await UserSave.find({ userID: `${members[i].id}` }); console.log(dbUser[i].bank)

when logging

it logs [i]'s bank and one other bank

the other bank is the same bank if i log dbUser[x] (x = any number)

[boreal iron]

Where’s the code?

Inside the loop?

Also why dbUser[i]?

Is it an array as result of your database request?

I doubt

[tribal crow]

yeah

its inside the for loop

when i log dbUser[i]

[boreal iron]

There are two for loops

Just show me a screenshot of the code please

Ah I see what u mean

I didn’t notice the user.bank and wallet

before members.push(…) just add member.user.data = user;

Then in your last line when pushing the embed field change user.bank to members[i].data.bank

Same for wallet

I didn’t notice you actually don’t need the entire user object, but just the tag

Gonna update my code real quick

const users = UserProfiles.sort((a, b) => b.bank - a.bank);
const members = [];

for(const user of users)
{
    const guild = interaction.client.guilds.cache.get(user.guildID);
    
    if(!guild) continue;
    
    const member = await guild.members.fetch(user.userID);
    
    if(!member) continue;
    
    user.tag = member.tag;

    members.push(user);

    if(members.length === 10) break;
}

for(let i = 0; i < members.length; i++) embed.addField(`#${i + 1}`, `${members[i].tag} - \`⌬ ${fNum(members[i].bank + members[i].wallet)}\``);

This one will do the job

[boreal iron]

Yeah this doesn’t include a check if the member exists in multiple guilds

Log bank and wallet

[tribal crow]

would that be hard to do

[boreal iron]

I wonder why they are nan

No it’s not hard to do

[tribal crow]

same

[tribal crow]

this kinda worked but at the same time not

[boreal iron]

Did u log bank and wallet?

[tribal crow]

wdym

[tribal crow]

now the code is exactly this

[boreal iron]

console log bank and wallet inside the second loop to see why it’s NaN

[tribal crow]

they no longer are tho

with that code

[boreal iron]

Ah

Now the name is undefined again?

[tribal crow]

yep

[boreal iron]

Lemme see if the property was already used

One second

Please add console log user directly after members.push()

And show the console log output

[boreal iron]

Oh the object is probably frozen

Ok try to replace the line user.Tag = member.tag by:

let tmp = user;
tmp.tag = member.tag;
members.push(tmp);

Don’t add two times members.push() please

I assume the database result is a frozen object which means we can’t modify it like adding the tag property

We will know for sure if that’s working

[tribal crow]

stays the same

undefined name, money works

[boreal iron]

Please log tmp now and show a screenshot of the code

Just to make sure

[boreal iron]

Why topten.length

And Not members.length

Also remove the database query of the second loop

Entirely

[tribal crow]

forgot to replace it before i took the pic

but its members. now

[boreal iron]

Ok it’s still not editable

Wtf

Ok then let’s do this:

const users = UserProfiles.sort((a, b) => b.bank - a.bank);
const members = [];

for(const user of users)
{
    const guild = interaction.client.guilds.cache.get(user.guildID);
    
    if(!guild) continue;
    
    const member = await guild.members.fetch(user.userID);
    
    if(!member) continue;
    
    members.push({ tag: member.user.tag, data: user });

    if(members.length === 10) break;
}

for(let i = 0; i < members.length; i++) embed.addField(`#${i + 1}`, `${members[i].tag} - \`⌬ ${fNum(members[i].data.bank + members[i].data.wallet)}\``);

This will work

Dunno why the copied object wasn’t editable, too

That’s beyond my JavaScript knowledge

[tribal crow]

tag is still undefined

[earnest phoenix]

The tag property does not exist on a guild member

[earnest phoenix]

You're supposed to access the user property which is the user object of the guild member, and then access the tag property

[tribal crow]

so member.user.tag?

[earnest phoenix]

Yes

[tribal crow]

eeey

it works

tysm voltrex and fake

[boreal iron]

#development message

Man i fucked up my own shit

Told him it doesn’t exist and still provided the wrong code

lmao

[tribal crow]

ok

still have some minutes, fake?

[boreal iron]

#development message

I updated the code above

But I’m working right now

So I’m not available unfortunately

[tribal crow]

thats fine

thanks for helping me!

[boreal iron]

Im back for like 10 mins

So go on

[earnest phoenix]

It's alright FakE you just need some rest from all that driving

[boreal iron]

For real

Couldn’t even remember what I was telling him 5 mins ago

That’s the critical line

Guess I’m too old already for this shit

[tribal crow]

those mins over?

[boreal iron]

Go ahead

Still something wrong with it?

We blame Voltrex then for it

Oh no

He’s still here

[tribal crow]

nope, just need help making the code that makes it max 1 guild per user

so like the guild they have the most money in

[boreal iron]

Uhm

Why didn’t you tell me that earlier?

You just want the highest user per guild in your leaderboard?

[tribal crow]

no

[tribal crow]

.

[boreal iron]

Ah

Quite simple

All you have to do is to search members before doing members.push() if there’s already an user object with the same ID in there

If so, you edit the wallet and Bank properties and add the current value to it

The inventory etc doesn’t seem to matter for this leaderboard, so it doesn’t need to be changed

[earnest phoenix]

anyone know the code to keep a bots message at the very bottom even if someone sends a message into the text channel?

[boreal iron]

Right before member.push()

I hate mobile coding

Lemme paste it together

const users = UserProfiles.sort((a, b) => b.bank - a.bank);
const members = [];

for(const user of users)
{
    const guild = interaction.client.guilds.cache.get(user.guildID);
    
    if(!guild) continue;
    
    const member = await guild.members.fetch(user.userID);
    
    if(!member) continue;
    
    const findUser = members.indexOf((member) => member.data.userID === user.userID);

    if(findUser)
    {
        members[findUser].data.wallet += user.wallet;
        members[findUser].data.bank += user.bank;
    }
    else members.push({ tag: member.user.tag, data: user });

    if(members.length === 10) break;
}

for(let i = 0; i < members.length; i++) embed.addField(`#${i + 1}`, `${members[i].tag} - \`⌬ ${fNum(members[i].data.bank + members[i].data.wallet)}\``);

[tribal crow]

tysm!

[boreal iron]

Err that will not work

find creates a new array

One second

Lemme edit the code once again

should be working bow

Thank you auto correct

[surreal sage]

Is it possible to simulate document.active whilst it isn't active using puppeteer

?

Window focus*

[boreal iron]

@tribal crow keep my update in mind

[uneven tartan]

ive got a lil bit right here

const mentioned=roleIDs.some((roleId) => message.content.includes(roleId));

returns t/f ofc

however i need the id

any idea?

damn i talk everyone dip 😭

[wheat mesa]

I don't understand the question

[quartz kindle]

use find

or filter with includes if you want more than one id

[boreal iron]

Isn’t weirdish an official American language?

[earnest phoenix]

const mentioned=message.mentions.roles.find(role=>roleIDs.includes(role.id));

[stark abyss]

[lament rock]

Country accents

[radiant kraken]

hi, i need a help with C's variadic arguments

this is the main function that declares it:

size_t args_count = cprintf_count_args(start);

printf("args count: %d\n", (int)args_count);

if (args_count == 0) {
  return false;
}
    
va_list vl;
va_start(vl, args_count);

then that function calls another function and passes the va_list to said function, it seemed to have crashed here:

const char * s = va_arg(vl, char *);

i don't see any reason to crash here, anyone have an idea?

do va_list only work if it's used in the same function that declares it?

[neon leaf]

Because of some Limitations I need to set my postgres db to C.UTF-8 instead of de_DE.UTF-8, will that break anything?

[lyric mountain]

I don't think postgres uses anything other than utf8

Mysql is the weirdo that has 533 different collation for each table

Whatever ur doing is probably related to database locale, not charset

In which case, it'd only break local datetime, since the timezone offset would change

So you'd need to update your columns to reflect this change

[spark flint]

How can i emit a message from a Socket.io client with Node.js?

[sharp geyser]

You can C your way out of development channel

[pale vessel]

you're not helping

[lyric mountain]

socket.emit no?

[spark flint]

I tried that

Didn’t work

[lyric mountain]

check the docs then

tho I'd recommend using actual websockets instead of socket.io

but it depends on what ur using it for

[spark flint]

its for a lil proxy system im making

using a websocket is proving to be more efficient

for my bot, its making API request to a user set URL, and its making the request from a 2nd VPS with all the details being sent via websocket

[lyric mountain]

you should use a websocket then

socket io has way more overhead than a normal socket

plus it's not guaranteed to use sockets 100% of the time, it'll happily switch to polling in certain situations

[earnest phoenix]

you are passing a size_t, which is not a char, try casting it.

[ocean jay]

Quick question, does HTML or MD work while making a Long Description for my bot?

[rustic nova]

yes both work

[ocean jay]

Ah okioki tyyy

[radiant kraken]

Does it have to be char though? Documentation and examples on va_start are very ambiguous in the internet, i've seen people pass in ints

[earnest phoenix]

yes you can pass in ints, but you have to tell the compiler what type of argument you expect the va_arg to return, in this case you are getting a string so you have to tell it that you are getting a string (char *), now if you want to use int, you will have to tell it that you are getting an int argument with the va_arg, there are many types you can use, you need to find the one that you want and use it in the va_arg, if you want to pass a string, use char *, if you want to pass an int use int, etc...

[radiant kraken]

hmmm, so basically, what does va_start even do?

what do you pass in the second argument

it confuses me

[earnest phoenix]

It sets up the internal variables for va_arg to work

[earnest phoenix]

the name of the first non-variadic argument. It doesn't do anything, it is just there so that the compiler knows the type of each variadic argument

[radiant kraken]

i see

[radiant kraken]

fixed it, apparently it was because of me passing a va_list by value instead of a pointer (i expected for va_list to be an alias to a pointer type... oh well)

reference stack overflow thread: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3168056/va-arg-returning-the-wrong-argument

[earnest phoenix]

congrats 👏

[radiant kraken]

how did this even segfault i literally just called a function

main.c:

#include <cprintf.h>

int main(void) {
  printf("a\n");
  cprintf(NULL, "What's your favorite color? %fr\n", "red!");
  // ...
}

cprintf.h:

#include <stdarg.h>
typedef struct { ... } cprintf_t;

// CPRINTF_EXPORT expands to nothing in unix
CPRINTF_EXPORT bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *fmt, ...);

cprintf.c:

#include <cprintf.h>

CPRINTF_EXPORT bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *start, ...) {
  printf("CALLED\n");
  // ...
}
``` `a` is printed to the console but not `CALLED` for some reason, it worked in Windows but not in unix platforms

[earnest phoenix]

I think the cprintf function is getting called, but you're passing a NULL pointer as the first argument (in).

[radiant kraken]

what's wrong with that? the NULL pointer hasn't even been used yet

using NULL does not automatically mean immediate segmentation fault

[earnest phoenix]

The function dereferences it at the start, so it's probably crashing right away

And you should use const char* instead of char*, since you're not modifying the string

[radiant kraken]

no, it clearly didn't, the first line is printf("CALLED\n");

[earnest phoenix]

Assuming that in is a pointer to a struct, it will try to dereference it to get the first member of the struct

[earnest phoenix]

oh wait, I think the problem is with the va_list argument in cprintf.c. It should be va_list args not char *start, ...

[radiant kraken]

no? that's how va_list works

-> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/variadic-functions-in-c/

[earnest phoenix]

wait

[radiant kraken]

no, it clearly didn't, as seen here

[earnest phoenix]

The function that cprintf() calls isn't visible outside of the current translation unit because of the CPRINTF_EXPORT macro. On Unix, this macro expands to static, resulting in the function being local to the translation unit. On Windows, this macro expands to __declspec(dllexport), which marks the function for export from the DLL

[radiant kraken]

no, it doesn't, in cprintf.h it's declared as follows:```c
#ifdef CPRINTF_DLL
#ifdef CPRINTF_BUILDING
#define CPRINTF_EXPORT __declspec(dllexport)
#else
#define CPRINTF_EXPORT __declspec(dllimport)
#endif
#else
#define CPRINTF_EXPORT
#endif

[earnest phoenix]

You need to compile both cprintf.c and main.c with the same definition of CPRINTF_EXPORT. What you currently have is a mismatch between the definition of cprintf.c and main.c

[earnest phoenix]

I stand corrected. You're not building a DLL, so the CPRINTF_EXPORT macro expands to nothing.

[radiant kraken]

exactly

i wasn't using a DLL

[earnest phoenix]

mhm

[radiant kraken]

i was just testing in WSL

i never said i was

oop looks like i fixed it on accident

it worked when i tried to compile main.c with an object file (cprintf.o) but not when i archive it to a libcprintf.a for some reason

i love C/C++ linking so much ❤️💖

[earnest phoenix]

That's because the non-DLL build is using the static library. The problem is that a linker warning has been flagged as an error, and cprintf() ends up being undefined

[radiant kraken]

[earnest phoenix]

Discord js v13

@ me

[radiant kraken]

i understand nothing on what you said

[earnest phoenix]

You are using the non-dll build of the runtime and you are not linking to the static CRT library (msvcrt.lib), so cprintf() is not found

there we go

[radiant kraken]

dude

i am in linux

[earnest phoenix]

oh LMAO my bad my bad

so no more issue?

your code has been fixed?

[radiant kraken]

no

not at all

it working in an object file does not give any clue to what's happening

[earnest phoenix]

try this

main.c:
#include <cprintf.h>

int main(void) {
  printf("a\n");
  cprintf(NULL, "What's your favorite color? %fr\n", "red!");
  // ...
}

cprintf.h:
#include <stdarg.h>
typedef struct { ... } cprintf_t;

// CPRINTF_EXPORT expands to nothing in unix
bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *fmt, ...);

cprintf.c:
#include <cprintf.h>

bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *start, ...) {
  printf("CALLED\n");
  // ...
}

I did a lot of stuff, but the main thing is that I removed the CPRINTF_EXPORT from cprintf.h and replaced it back in cprintf.c after the function prototype

[radiant kraken]

removing CPRINTF_EXPORT won't do anything, since it expands to nothing

[earnest phoenix]

I see, but it actually did something. It changed the function name to cprintf in the header. So when I built it and then did nm on the resulting object file, there was no "_cprintf" in the object file, but there was a "cprintf"

but if you want to use that too, wait

main.c

#include <cprintf.h>

int main(void) {
  printf("a\n");
  cprintf(NULL, "What's your favorite color? %s\n", "red!");
  // ...
}

cprintf.h:

#include <stdarg.h>
typedef struct { ... } cprintf_t;

// CPRINTF_EXPORT expands to nothing in unix
CPRINTF_EXPORT bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *fmt, ...);

cprintf.c:

#include <cprintf.h>

CPRINTF_EXPORT bool cprintf(const cprintf_t *in, char *start, ...) {
  printf("CALLED\n");
  // ...
}

Output:

a
CALLED
What's your favorite color? red!

[radiant kraken]

what did you even change

[earnest phoenix]

compare the main.c to the old one

changed the %fr to %s

[radiant kraken]

that's a part of the library

[earnest phoenix]

%fr is not a valid format specifier

[radiant kraken]

that's a part of the library

[earnest phoenix]

what's the matter

it's still not a valid format specifier

[radiant kraken]

%fr will make it print as a red text on the screen

cprintf is a custom function from the library, which is !== to printf

[earnest phoenix]

If %fr is used, then the program will try to print floating point numbers as a string, and since we are not passing in any floating point numbers as an argument to cprintf(), the program will try to access null pointers and will give segmentation fault error. Thus, %fr was replaced by %s

[radiant kraken]

stop talking about the %fr, it has nothing to do with the segmentation fault

the problem is that the program can't even reach the first line of the function, that is printf("CALLED\n");

the main part of the problem is probably on linking it

[earnest phoenix]

well removing the %fr worked, I can't help you then if that's not what u want

[radiant kraken]

you were mistaking cprintf with formatted standard library functions like printf

[earnest phoenix]

Just wanna ask bot devs here if u have any idea: can bots start forum posts? what about webhooks?

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i have a question about c++ arrays.

Imagine my max is [40][60] in a 2d array.

Why must i use <= in a for loop when writing to the array

but only < when reading?

 for(int i = 0; i < NO_OF_ROWS; i++){
    for(int j = 0; j < NO_OF_ROWS; j++){
       
    (universe[i][j] == Live) ? d = LIVE : d= DEAD;
    test += d;
   }
   test+="\n";
   }
   cout << test;```This is reaing

 for(int i = 0; i <= NO_OF_ROWS; i++){
    for(int j = 0; j <= NO_OF_COLUMNS; j++){
    z = input.get();
   if(z != EOF){
        if(z == LIVE){
            universe[i][j] = Live;
            
        }else{
universe[i][j] = Dead;

        }```writing

[radiant kraken]

does it change if you switched from <= to < though

[eternal osprey]

yeah

it would add a tremendously big number like 3068932053952

in my array

[radiant kraken]

that's called undefined behavior

you were accessing/modifying the array out of bounds

<= won't work since it would access the array out of bounds in the last iteration

[eternal osprey]

so strange

if i run a google test wihtout <=

it tells me that the array is not correct

i will show some more code one moment

bool read_universe_file(string filename, Cell universe[NO_OF_ROWS][NO_OF_COLUMNS])
{
ifstream input;
char z;
input.open(filename);
if(!input.fail()){
  
   for(int i = 0; i <= NO_OF_ROWS; i++){
    for(int j = 0; j <= NO_OF_COLUMNS; j++){
    z = input.get();
   if(z != EOF){
        if(z == LIVE){
            universe[i][j] = Live;
            
        }else{
universe[i][j] = Dead;

        }
        
   }else{
    input.close();
    return true;
   }
      
   }
   }
}else{
    return false;
}
    // pre-conditions, post-conditions, implementation
}```

[radiant kraken]

it's not strange

consider this:```js
const array = [1, 2, 3, 4];

for (let i = 0; i <= array.length; i++)
console.log(array[i]);
``` the last output would be undefined, right?

[eternal osprey]

yup because its index starts at 0

however that isn't what i find strange

it's rather that my google test is telling me that it doesn't work until i use <=

instead of <

[neon leaf]

why is the pterodactyl terminal doing that?

vscode:

[quartz kindle]

probably because of EOF

the last item in the array is reserved for the EOF character

[whole quail]

how can i fix this?

[rustic nova]

by not responding to the interaction before, you have done so on that one if check and done so in the end

[sharp geyser]

I don't miss this chat

[wheat mesa]

I miss developing discord bots but I also don’t

[boreal iron]

nub

[slender wagon]

pg.query("INSERT INTO premium(id, name, age) values(18, 'Grainger5445', 18)", (err, result) => {
    if(!err) {
        console.log("Here is the resul: " + result.rows);
    }
    console.log(err, result)
    pg.end();
})

Ok so i am trying to insert data using postgres but when i open pgadmin the data doesn't show up in there

[lyric mountain]

oh no

please dont store the age as a number

[sharp geyser]

Yea no

[lyric mountain]

also, make sure ur committing the transaction

[sharp geyser]

Why not store the age as a number

smh

[slender wagon]

it's just for testing purposes

[slender wagon]

hmm?

[lyric mountain]

most pg libs work with transactions

think of it as a "bulk edit"

it doesn't confirm the changes until u commit

it makes sure there are no concurrency issues

[lyric mountain]

O(365) at best case scenario lul

[slender wagon]

i am not finding the command to actually commit

[solemn latch]

using this?
https://www.npmjs.com/package/pg

[slender wagon]

yes

[solemn latch]

iirc, if you're just using queries you don't need to commit. that's only for transactions.

[slender wagon]

then why is it saying no rows found on pgadmin

[boreal iron]

what's tje result and/or error?

[slender wagon]

Result {
  command: 'INSERT',
  rowCount: 1,
  oid: 0,
  rows: [],
  fields: [],
  _parsers: undefined,
  _types: TypeOverrides {
    _types: {
      getTypeParser: [Function: getTypeParser],
      setTypeParser: [Function: setTypeParser],
      arrayParser: [Object],
      builtins: [Object]
    },
    text: {},
    binary: {}
  },
  RowCtor: null,
  rowAsArray: false
}

[boreal iron]

hmm, looks like 1 row count was affected

and you're sure the table doesn't hold the row?

[slender wagon]

positive

[boreal iron]

inserting multiple times without ignoring should return an error

so if that's not the case, it's indeed not inserting

is the database locked?

[slender wagon]

i tried like 3 times

and no error

same result

[lyric mountain]

try committing, just to be sure

queries aren't excluded from transactions

[slender wagon]

how do ic heck

[slender wagon]

what's the command for that

[lyric mountain]

if db was locked it'd fail

both optimistic and pessimistic locks would return an exception

[lyric mountain]

pg.commit() ig

check the docs

[slender wagon]

bruh i cannot find anything about commits

[boreal iron]

[slender wagon]

i might as well be blind

[boreal iron]

probably

soon

finally

[neon leaf]

how can I make a function require json options so it shows in vscode? (nodejs)

[quartz kindle]

either jsdoc comments or typesdcript declarations

[neon leaf]

how exactly would the jsdoc be for jsons?

[lyric mountain]

u dont jsdoc a json, u jsdoc a model

jsons cant have comments

[earnest phoenix]

Well they can, JSONs with comments exist but you can't declare a type definition for it in it's own JSON file

[lyric mountain]

{
  "comment": "This is technically not a comment"
]

[neon leaf]

I think I wrote that bad, I have a json object as an argument and want to document its possible values

[lyric mountain]

that's uhhh...I don't think reverse documentation is possible

not without a model

[earnest phoenix]

Then you can use JSDocs, using the typedef directive allows for such declaration, for example:

/**
 * @typedef {object} Bar
 * @prop {string} baz
 * @prop {number} [biz]
 * @param {Bar} bar
 */
function foo(bar) { ... }

You can also do it this way:

/**
 * @typedef {object} Bar
 * @prop {string} baz
 * @prop {number} [biz]
 */

/**
 * @param {Bar} bar
 */
function foo(bar) { ... }

To separate the typedef declarations

[neon leaf]

thank you so much!

how can I put multiple jsdocs in one file without them overlapping each other?

[sudden geyser]

Everyone stop coding, and start reviewing: https://eloncodereview.com/

[earnest phoenix]

I don't think almost anybody here will want to do that, especially with spaghetti code

[boreal iron]

ujm

[rustic nova]

ah yes have my spaghetti code be used on rockets

[sudden geyser]

either submit your code or get in the bread line

[boreal iron]

I guess Tim will need quite a few more donations

To buy that

finish typing voltrex

can't wait the entire day for you

[earnest phoenix]

They won't overlap, as long as you're not declaring typedefs alone with conflicting names, other than that it won't ever overlap with the other type definitions

[earnest phoenix]

How about you stop talking in development and go back to driving, your car can't wait the entire day!

[boreal iron]

lol

shut up

Why dd is so fucking slowly, Mr. Voltrux?

should probably use rsync instead

my fucking gosh

that will take forever

[maiden urchin]

Hey

Does anyone know why a server would refuse to load my bot's Integrations.

There's a server that persistently wont show my bot on its Integrations page thus loads no slash commands. I can't recreate it on my server or a test one at all (The bot is in 4 shards total)

It works for them literal days after an update but whenever the bot is update that server has like 2-3+ days of downtime

[boreal iron]

Did they already try to kick the bot and reinvite?

[maiden urchin]

Yep multiple times

[boreal iron]

probably a broken server then

saw already so much people complaining about issues with bots, permissions, guild settings not saving etc.

[lyric mountain]

how many integrations are in that server?

[maiden urchin]

Many

Too many for me to count

[lyric mountain]

iirc the limit is 50 integrations

[maiden urchin]

Maybe 30+

Yep, I counted and they have 50 total @lyric mountain

tysm.

I notified the issue was that

[boreal iron]

interesting that's the limit

good to know

[lyric mountain]

lul

[rustic nova]

ah yes

guilds with over 50 bots

much

[boreal iron]

must be chaos

[earnest phoenix]

https://hastebin.com/xobeyoqeko.js
Fixed unreadable code due to indentation

[sharp briar]

I couldn't imagine 50+ bots in one server. We have like 20 and that's more than enough to accomplish everything we need them to and even have backup automod in case one goes down for maintenance

[quartz kindle]

top.gg literally had 5000+ bots in the server at some point

[sharp briar]

Dammmnnnnn

[quartz kindle]

every single approved bot was added

[sharp briar]

That's a bit different though it's not a regular server

[quartz kindle]

ye lul

[round cove]

Was like 12k+ awhile back before we purged them.

[round cove]

I think Xig or Marco used a bot.

[lyric mountain]

ah yes, fire to kill fire

[stable eagle]

Im sure that is going to be possible in the future

[lyric mountain]

It is, people use fire to deprive fire of oxygen

[surreal sage]

{ ...object[key], key: key }
This is in an object.keys for each loop,
Let's say object[key] is { "test": true }
The end result would be { "test": true, "key": key } right?

Or else how would I make that happen

(I'm converting an object to an array and I want to know each key when changing data in the original object, I'm iterating over the array to find something)

yup nvm

[earnest phoenix]

how to delete comments in top.gg?

[quartz kindle]

yes, the spread operator works in objects similarly to how it works in arrays

[surreal sage]

It's a nice thing

why does new Array exist lol

[quartz kindle]

everything in js is objects, and as such they all have constructors

there is new Array, new Object, and lots more

[surreal sage]

[quartz kindle]

in practice tho, most of these are useless, except for very specific use cases

new Array for example has one specific use case

if you need a fixed size array and you know the length, new Array will give you better performance

for example

there are no fixed size arrays in js, but its possible to initialize an array with a starting size using the Array constructor

which gives you a performance boost as long as you dont exceed it and force the array to be resized

[wheat mesa]

no stinky reallocations needed

[quartz kindle]

i'll reallocate you

[wheat mesa]

reallocate me to a university I want to go to please

[quartz kindle]

you will be reallocated to brazil

[wheat mesa]

if I get to live near you and kuuhaku then I accept

[earnest phoenix]

Can anyone plz tell me what to write in code so that when the button is clicked, then the message gets edited
(Slash command v13)

[solemn latch]

we don't spoonfeed code here, sorry

[earnest phoenix]

I did not mean that, just tell me the function to use! That's it

[narrow lotus]

Largatha

[quartz kindle]

interaction.editReply()

or interaction.update()

dont remember which

[earnest phoenix]

Ok ty

[neon leaf]

lets say I do something like this

urls.add('/ok')
urls.add('/aaa')

console.log(urls)```

How can I make the result be
```{
  "/ok": 'ee',
  "/aaa": 'ee'
}```
? (nodejs)

Yes I need a custom function for it

[lyric mountain]

list != map

and no u dont need a custom function for it

[neon leaf]

even if I want functions as content?

[lyric mountain]

u didn't say u wanted functions as content

[neon leaf]

  "/ok": async() {
    console.log('hi')
  }
}```

[neon leaf]

well I want both

a function to add functions under urls

[lyric mountain]

urls['/endpoint'] = theFunc

[neon leaf]

can I do it with a custom function?

[lyric mountain]

function foobar(endpoint, func) {
  urls[endpoint] = func;
}

it's literally the same thing

just boilerplate

[neon leaf]

does that also work if the function is in another file? aka that the variable gets assigned correctly?

[lyric mountain]

what variable?

[neon leaf]

urls

[lyric mountain]

urls is supposed to be in a single, main file

not in many files

can u give me the full context?

[neon leaf]

ok, scrap that, I got it.
Why cant I assign this the urls directly though?

[lyric mountain]

I think u need to declare the field beforehand

also u dont need to export it that way

u can export the class directly

[neon leaf]

this is the error when just using this

[lyric mountain]

because this cannot be anything else than this

it's the same as saying "Blue is yellow" or "I am him"

I am i, this is this

[neon leaf]

how can I then make this.urls be the default thing that you get when accessing the class?

[lyric mountain]

you don't

that's now how oop works

you can, however, extend map

that way URLgen will be a subclass of Map

[neon leaf]

🧐

[earnest phoenix]

"Accessing the class"? If you want all of it's values to be reset so you can use it multiple times that's already what you're doing, it's a class and you can instantiate multiple instances of it

In which, all of the instantiated instances will have their own values, the default ones in your case if you want to call it that

Unless you mean you literally want this.urls object to be returned when you access the class, which won't work because that's not what classes are

You can just use an ordinary class, hold this.urls as a property, and access it like <ClassInstance>.urls, which would work just fine

[quartz kindle]

theres nothing wrong with that code

[lyric mountain]

that's the working code

[quartz kindle]

ah i misread

[lyric mountain]

what they tried to do is

class URLs {
  constructor() {
    this = {}
  }

  set(url, code) {
    this[url] = code
  }
}
...
const urls = new URLs()
urls.set("foo", "bar")

[quartz kindle]

technically a class is already an object, so basically this is already an {} after you use new Thing()

[lyric mountain]

it'd work, without the constructor

[quartz kindle]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

tbh the whole thing makes no sense, as I said before it's just boilerplate

const urls = {}
urls["foo"] = "bar"

[slender wagon]

hey guys i still can't figure out postgres

i am commiting but it doesn't seem to work

Result {
  command: 'COMMIT',
  rowCount: null,
  oid: null,
  rows: [],
  fields: [],
  _parsers: undefined,
  _types: TypeOverrides {
    _types: {
      getTypeParser: [Function: getTypeParser],
      setTypeParser: [Function: setTypeParser],
      arrayParser: [Object],
      builtins: [Object]
    },
    text: {},
    binary: {}
  },
  RowCtor: null,
  rowAsArray: false
}

dies

[lyric mountain]

Might seem dumb, but are u connected to the right schema?

[slender wagon]

yes

is there a way i can log the branch i am at

but i am pretty sure it's the same one

since it's giving me no errors

[surreal sage]

I'm working on image processing, I have a nice large array full of rgba but each rgba values are not in invidual arrays

Aka, 0,0,0,255,0,0,0,255 (2 pixels)
What would be the best way to sort this?

Uint8Array*

Possibly .subarray() whilst iterating?

https://microsoft.github.io/PowerBI-JavaScript/interfaces/_node_modules_typedoc_node_modules_typescript_lib_lib_es5_d_.uint8array.html#subarray

Or .slice?

[lyric mountain]

convert int to individual colors

(num >> col_index * 8) && FF

RGBA = (num >> 8) && FF

[surreal sage]

😨

[lyric mountain]

RGBA = (num >> 16) && FF

[surreal sage]

i am beginner this is intermediate

[lyric mountain]

this is beginner tbh

[surreal sage]

😨

[lyric mountain]

int colors are just arrays but as a number

[surreal sage]

I want to start with having them in proper arrays

For each pixel

[lyric mountain]

do what I just told u to

also it ain't for each pixel

[surreal sage]

🥶

[lyric mountain]

pixels are encoded in rgba format

...can u stop with the emotes?

[lyric mountain]

that ain't how it works

[surreal sage]

R,G,B,A?

[lyric mountain]

no

[surreal sage]

That's how I receive it

[lyric mountain]

no, u receive the number

the number is what u want

FF FF FF FF
R G B A

tho usually I see A at the 4th index

but anyway

it'd be the same as [255, 255, 255, 255]

if u convert to hex [FF, FF, FF, FF]

then if u append FFFFFFFF which is a number

all u need to do is access the index for the tone u want

(num >> 8) & FF is the same as num[1]

[surreal sage]

What does ">> 8 & FF" do?

[lyric mountain]

>> 8 means "shift 8 bits to the right"

so FF FF FF becomes 00 FF FF

[surreal sage]

I think you're gonna have to spoon feed me for this one

[lyric mountain]

& FF is a mask, to exclude the other tones

so (00 FF FF) & FF becomes 00 00 FF

[solemn latch]

🙈

[lyric mountain]

u kinda lost all my respect after that one

[surreal sage]

You aint here

[surreal sage]

Simply because I do not understand

[lyric mountain]

just follow the damn formula (num >> index * 8) & FF

replace index with the index of the tone u want

num is the number

[lyric mountain]

what are those?

[surreal sage]

What I believe I needed

[lyric mountain]

that's a gray square

if those are colors

[surreal sage]

I know

[lyric mountain]

then use it?

[surreal sage]

About right

[lyric mountain]

tho u should learn how to extract colors too, very few apis will return pixels as an array

[surreal sage]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/ndarray-pixels/v/1.0.0 :p

[lyric mountain]

ah yes, yet another dependancy

wcgw

[surreal sage]

Define?

abt right

[lyric mountain]

"what could go wrong"

[surreal sage]

"If it works, it works"

[lyric mountain]

where did I put that cow meme

[surreal sage]

[surreal sage]

8 bit int aka 0 - 255
How could I make this a 0 - 1 float?

[lyric mountain]

you dont

well, u could, but why?

for that it's simple rule-of-three formula

value * max / total

[quartz kindle]

or just divide by 255 lol

[lyric mountain]

yes, I just passed the formula

[quartz kindle]

most people dont speak robot

they want english

[stark abyss]

https://media.tenor.com/fJAoBHWymY4AAAAC/do-not-touch-it-programmer.gif

“1st rule of programming”

[twin shoal]

Am I missing something when trying to get an iframe to appear on my bot page?

It doesn't seem to work regardless of what I do

[lyric mountain]

How are u writing it?

Also, is the site https?

[twin shoal]

Yes

[twin shoal]

<iframe id="iframe-website" src="https://ticketking.xyz" />

[lyric mountain]

Iframe needs a closing tag

It can't be self-closed

[twin shoal]

I tried it with one and it didn't work

That's why I switched it to a self close

[lyric mountain]

Well self-closing is guaranteed to not work

Who's your ssl provider?

Cloudflare?

[twin shoal]

Yes

[quartz kindle]

any errors in the console or network tab?

it should have an error there if the iframe refused to load or was blocked

[twin shoal]

No, no errors in relation to my site

I don't even see the iframe element in the html

[quartz kindle]

top.gg description?

using the preview button or saving and refreshing the page ?

[twin shoal]

Both

[quartz kindle]

tried force reload / disable cache?

[twin shoal]

Yeah

I already have cache disabled by default

[quartz kindle]

try a different browser

[twin shoal]

I just did

Nothing

I have it live on https://top.gg/bot/710034409214181396 but it doesn't work

[quartz kindle]

indeed theres nothing there

either top.gg broken or its removing the iframe, or it didnt save/update your changes

ask #support

[solemn latch]

🤔 I'm assuming you solved it, seems the iframe is working

[lyric mountain]

Perhaps it's browser issue, if woo can see it

[wet apex]

Hi. Guys I am looking for best and affordable hosting for my small bot that I am planning to expand in near future. Do you guys have any recommendation?

A help would be appreciated a lot. Btw I am looking something for bot with around 1000 servers.

Free feel to ping if you want to help me regarding this :)

[lyric mountain]

Contabo

Also u don't need to worry if ur target is 1k servers

That's very little for a computer

Unless your code is terrible, that is, otherwise focus on polishing it along the way

[wheat mesa]

1k could probably be hosted on free hosts like oracle tbh, unless it’s a music bot

[ocean jay]

helloooo I need some help, https://sourceb.in/7V2QT5rMCj

The error is in the bin

[boreal iron]

You’re missing the permissions to create application commands in your guild

[ocean jay]

oh, but I do have permission

I added the application.commands thingy

[boreal iron]

There’s no permission to set just a scope you have to invite the bot with

Then kick the bot and reinvite it using the link including the appropriate scope

[ocean jay]

o okioki

[wet apex]

I was searching online and found about digital ocean. What is your opinion on that?

Which one is better digital ocean or contabo?

[wet apex]

Nope it's not a music bot but I am planning to go with basic option that usually have 1 CPU and 1 GB RAM

[boreal iron]

DO has just the largest amount of bots and compromised servers I know

Literally already blocked like half of their entire network

(probably more)

Not much better than OVH tbh

[supple oriole]

Use contabo.

[earnest phoenix]

use DO

[radiant kraken]

can't you just use

num & 0xFF; // alpha
num & 0xFF00; // blue
num & 0xFF0000; // green
num & 0xFF000000; // red

[radiant kraken]

this is basic bit manipulation

[earnest phoenix]

(num >> color*8) & 0xFF;

[earnest phoenix]

Yes, and that's how it should be done as well

[radiant kraken]

bit-masking is awesome tbh

[earnest phoenix]

Not sure why over complicating stuff

[radiant kraken]

very underrated

i can compress an entire function into a one-liner

[earnest phoenix]

https://sourceb.in/1ueLp7Pmuj

This is my button handler. Plz tell me what to write in code so that, only the command user can use the button and if any other person use it, the bot replies- You cannot use this button!

Bc i am doing buttons for the first time

Related to discord.js

Plz help!!

[woeful hedge]

I-

[earnest phoenix]

Anyone can help plz?

[lyric mountain]

nope

0xFF = 255
0xFF00 = 65280

[dry imp]

vps or just a discord bot hosting service?

[lyric mountain]

you need to shift the bytes to the first 2 spots to get a 0-255 range

[radiant kraken]

wait

maybe a different constant

[wet apex]

Just need to host my discord bot and make sure it never goes offline

[lyric mountain]

the formula I passed is the shortest form already

shift index * 8 bytes to the right, mask out other bytes

[earnest phoenix]

Plz help!

[dry imp]

well, plox.host has a scalable option

[radiant kraken]

oh well

[dry imp]

$4 for unmetered ram is kinda worth it tbh, plus the location is great so youll get low ping

havent tried it myself since i dont really have a bot to scale but i think you should try it

[wet apex]

I have never heard of that hosting. Do you think it is good one?

[midnight haven]

Hi

??

[dry imp]

many people recommend that to me, i personally dont have any projects that needs more than 4gb ram so i rather choose another hosting service just for 1gb of ram that costs $1, but plox.host should be better if you wanted to scale

though i hardly know a bot that uses more than 4gb of ram other than music bots, so its up to you and your bot requirements

[wet apex]

The bot I have will only have simple fun commands like all other bots and some moderation commands and nothing special

[wet apex]

Why music bots takes so much ram?

[earnest phoenix]

Old big music bots used in thousands/millions of servers take hundreds of GBs of RAM

[quartz kindle]

depends a lot on how its built, but for example if a single mp3 file has 3-5mb, put 100 of them in memory and its instantly 500mb, plus if you need to convert the stream into discords format, then its pretty much double the amount for holding the original plus the converted, then when you switch tracks you basically quadruple the amount until the old files are properly freed from memory

[wet apex]

WOW! Still people developed them that shocking

[wet apex]

Now everything makes sense

[quartz kindle]

but the worse is not really memory, its the cpu it takes to convert the audio format live

unless all your files are already discord compatible

but stuff like youtube for example is not, it needs real time conversion

[wet apex]

Tim what you think how much a bot like mee6 takes when it comes to ram and cpu?

[wet apex]

Gotcha. I did not know that music bots are so much complex behind the scene.

[quartz kindle]

hundreds of gb of ram

rhythm had several tb of ram

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah

[quartz kindle]

but they probably use distributed systems at that point, so its not a single server

[wet apex]

I have a similar kind of bot that is very simple then mee6 and have some everyday commands

[quartz kindle]

for example split the bot into 10 separate servers, each with 256gb ram and 32 cpu cores

[wet apex]

btw can i personally contact you to fast my bot review ||jk||

[quartz kindle]

or if they use stuff like kubernetes for example

[earnest phoenix]

tias

[quartz kindle]

then its like thousands of small servers

[wet apex]

what is kubernetes?

[earnest phoenix]

container orchestration system

[wet apex]

does that means yes in some secret language? lol

[quartz kindle]

there is no fast tracking for bot reviews

[earnest phoenix]

Mostly used for easier software deployment, scaling, and management

[earnest phoenix]

try it and see

[wet apex]

it seems something cool and worthy to learn

[wet apex]

yes i know i was just joking

[quartz kindle]

kubernetes is like

you give it a piece of code

and it spawns servers for you as needed

[wet apex]

nooooooooo never

[earnest phoenix]

k8s are pog

[thorny field]

Wanna make discord bots for people and get money from it, I already made a fiverr gig but does anyone else know where I can get some work?

[quartz kindle]

so as you grow, more and more servers are spawned with the same code

automatically

[wet apex]

gotcha

[lyric mountain]

that's why I dropped my music module long ago

not worth all the headache and resource drain

[shadow stratus]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but my discord bot has reached 100 servers and I feel uncomfortable giving discord my ID. If anyone wants to join as a maintainer and help verify it, I would greatly appreciate it. https://top.gg/bot/835198432796737536
I abandoned it for some time because of the ID requirement, but recently started to work on it again

Links are currently dead right now, but stack is discord.js, but I've been moving it to typescript. Maintaining the bot isn't exactly a requirement, it's just the ID part that's important

[lyric mountain]

I would heavily, HEAVILY recommend against doing it

don't trust anyone with your bot

for someone else to verify your bot in your place, you'd have to pass ownership to them, meaning that person could simply steal your bot out of the blue

[shadow stratus]

Well my two options are either let it die or find someone I can trust with it, so don't have much choice sadly :/

I appreciate the notice though

[lyric mountain]

or you trust discord with your id

it's a serious business, if anything happens they get punished anyway

it's not like ur giving ur id to some random alley goods dealer

[shadow stratus]

I understand, but I feel like the ID is very unnecessary, it's just a chat app.

[lyric mountain]

not really, they aren't asking your id to use the chat app

they're asking because they need to verify you are who you say you are for using sensitive data and potentially destructive endpoints

they ask for it so they can prevent you from creating alt accounts for your scams (if any)

[shadow stratus]

I mean, can't they let a bot that doesn't use those endpoints or sensitive data scale without providing an ID?

[lyric mountain]

they cant

[harsh nova]

Doesn’t discord use stripe for id verification?

[lyric mountain]

ye

imagine this hypo scenario: you do steam scams to steal people's accounts

[earnest phoenix]

They're trying to prevent bots that scam people after becoming slightly bigger than usual

[lyric mountain]

your bot gets verified and joins in 1000 servers

discord bans u after a while

u make another account and repeat ad infinitum

now add an ID to the equation, the loop is broken

[wheat mesa]

Your ID is only used to prevent abuse

IDs are something that a massive company like discord has to be very VERY careful with handling

[lyric mountain]

ye, having one leaked could shutdown discord

[wheat mesa]

They don’t want to steal your identity, they want to protect the users of your bot

[lyric mountain]

well, stripe in this case

[earnest phoenix]

The important part is that Discord doesn't even get to see your ID, only Stripe does

[shadow stratus]

What I mean is that some bots don't want the verified sign. I think verified is cool for people who want the sign, but I think it's a wrong choice for them to let the bots who don't want that sign not scale. People can always create alts and create new bots on those, each one holding 100 users, which makes verification pretty useless in this scenario

[lyric mountain]

since discord doesn't hold any info abt ur id

[wheat mesa]

Huh?

That doesn’t make any sense lol

[lyric mountain]

they only hold if ur identity was verified or not

[wheat mesa]

Why would you not want your bot to be verified…

[lyric mountain]

stripe is the one to handle the id

[lyric mountain]

u dont verify for the sign

[shadow stratus]

Not all people are happy to give their ID

[lyric mountain]

the sign is just a collateral effect

[wheat mesa]

You’re not verifying for the sign, you’re verifying so that discord can prevent abuse of user data

[lyric mountain]

like, if you're verifying just for the sake of the sign then I'd laugh the hell out of you

[wheat mesa]

Well, that’s your decision. But it exists for a good reason, and they do not mishandle extremely sensitive data like this

[lyric mountain]

also limiting to 100 servers is to contain the possible damage, way better than having no limit

[shadow stratus]

I mean here is what would be cool:

• Locked down API
• Same questions asked but without the ID
• Can join an infinite amount of servers

[wheat mesa]

Yeah, no

Not how that works

An ID is a way to prevent abuse by making sure that people have accountability on the internet

Otherwise you are completely anonymous to discord and you can just keep abusing their service by creating more accounts and more bots if you get banned

They don’t want big bots mishandling large amounts of sensitive user data

[lyric mountain]

ye, discord already tracks your IP, but any vpn could bypass that

an ID tho, you cannot fake that legally

[earnest phoenix]

1. Verification isn't supposed to be the user's choice, because that's not how verification works
2. This is a good way to prevent a ton of abuse
   Bot gets verified after you give in your ID -> your ID is held to prevent abuse -> your bot gets detected for abuse -> gets disabled or even removed -> your make another bot and try to get it verified -> declined because you can't provide that same ID, to prevent abuse, unless you have many other IDs
3. Discord doesn't even see your ID, only Stripe does; which is trusted by millions of people, and many companies use it

[lyric mountain]

and if u do, you have real, legal issues

[wheat mesa]

You can retrieve a lot of sensitive data about users just based on their statuses

Imagine if you had a massive bot tracking everyone’s status unknowingly to the users

Then it gets banned for that

[lyric mountain]

the only, ONLY thing discord holds is isUserVerified: true/false

[wheat mesa]

Then you just create another bot, and another, and another

[shadow stratus]

I mean if they are allowing bots to get the same data up until 100 servers, is it really sensitive? If a scam bot joins 100 servers, then the scammer can just make a new alt

[wheat mesa]

100 servers is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things

[lyric mountain]

now remove the limit

[wheat mesa]

They want to prevent abuse in large numbers

Imagine if rhythm decided to nuke everyone’s servers when they got shut down

[lyric mountain]

scamming 100 servers is bad, yes, but WAY better than say, 1.000.000

discord could simply say "You cannot have your bot in more than 1 server without verification", that'd kill any scam attempt

however, people would hate it

so they settled at a sane number

not too much to be a WOMD but also not too little as to make people mad

[shadow stratus]

Fair point, I guess this is where the ID helps. A bot that joins a lot of servers then goes malicious. But is stopping a lot of real bots from scaling really the solution, can't they just lock down anything destructive in exchange for not providing an ID?

[lyric mountain]

sending a single message is technically destructive with enough servers

almost all endpoints become destructive when u reach a certain number of servers

[earnest phoenix]

Also most real bots I've seen have never had an issue with this, they've just provided an ID and never looked back again

[lyric mountain]

isn't stripe used by banking app btw?

[earnest phoenix]

It's not really an issue, except for those who don't have IDs but Discord also provides ways around that, such as providing other types of documents (driver's license, passport), or using other people's documents, such as your friends' or your parents'

[shadow stratus]

Ye, stripe is a banking app I think

[earnest phoenix]

Stripe isn't a banking app, it's used by banks

They handle document processing and verification

[lyric mountain]

or using other people's documents, such as your friends' or your parents
in this case, losing the ownership of the bot

since u need to transfer during verification

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah, you must transfer it to a team

Although you'll still be considered the main owner

[shadow stratus]

Moderators can act fast on messages, I also think an API request limit on sending messages/anything else in a server is a pretty good idea, in case a bot starts being malicious. Most big servers have a lot of moderators that can act really fast

[lyric mountain]

but how fast? and how would you know if people got dm scam before it's too late?

most dont fall for it, but some are just too dumb

multiply those "some" by 1000, 10000, 100000, whatever, even in small quantities the damage would be huge

[shadow stratus]

With the API request limit idea, you can just limit the amount of DMs sent in a small period (1 or 10 minutes for example) and the damage will be kept to a minimum

[lyric mountain]

that'd kill bots that use dms

[solemn latch]

Yeah, lots of unverified bots use dms a lot for valid uses.

[lyric mountain]

ik a lot of bots that show their help command on dms to prevent pollution

[shadow stratus]

That was why I proposed both ideas, for bots who don't need much they don't have to provide their ID, but for bots who want unlimited access they have to provide their ID

[shadow stratus]

They'll still be able to DM, just not DM too much in a small period

[earnest phoenix]

That contradicts with the idea of preventing abuse, in an extreme level; so verification literally just gets obliterated out of the way

[solemn latch]

That won't work though.
Our bot luca sends a lot of dms, but its not verified, and it'll never be able to get verified.

[earnest phoenix]

Because a lot of bots don't even use privileged intents and such, which would cause a lot of abuse

[lyric mountain]

I'll use my bot as an example: I rely on dms to show the player's cards

[shadow stratus]

I meant keep both options, either super locked down, or unlimited with verification

[lyric mountain]

if I had to be verified to be able to use dms, I'd never reach 100 servers

because my bot's sole purpose is said game, which requires dms

so I'd need to develop an entirely different bot until I reach verification threshold

[shadow stratus]

So first 100 servers -> same as now, after 100 servers you have two options:

• Locked down
• Verification

[lyric mountain]

HOWEVER, it'd not be the same bot after verification, thus people would either remove my bot or lose whatever they set up to it

see the problem here?

[shadow stratus]

The first 100 servers have the same permissions as now, it's just after 100 servers where you can verify or choose a locked down API

[lyric mountain]

that returns to my "bot would need to be drastically changed to conform to api limit changes" point

[shadow stratus]

Well if you need more API requests, you have to verify, which is the same as now pretty much

[lyric mountain]

if my bot could show player hands before 100 servers, but suddenly lost that ability, it'd have to become an entirely different bot after lockdown

[solemn latch]

The solution you are giving imo isn't something the vast majority of bot owners would go for.
Discord would need to do a ton of work for a very small set of bots.

It just isnt economical for them.

[lyric mountain]

as much as I hate giving my info to anything, I understand their choice from a technical point

[solemn latch]

A webhook based bot it might make sense to allow that, I guess?
Ie only responding to interactions.

[lyric mountain]

me?

[solemn latch]

No, I mean applications with no server cap without verification.

[lyric mountain]

ah, yes, you have no limit if u only use webhooks

[solemn latch]

Technically speaking is possible now.

[lyric mountain]

tho u also cant get any info abt the server at all

but yes, it works

btw, not with interactions

I mean raw webhooks

[shadow stratus]

Here is an example for where the locked down API is good enough
You have a bot that just replies whenever it gets some a command (like a -weather command that is rarely used)
If the API is limited to 10 messages a minute, and that command is rarely used in an average server, then you won't have any problem at all

[solemn latch]

That would require access to a privileged intent.

So discord would never go for something like that

[lyric mountain]

then you add non-documented commands, you join the server and use -nuke, the server gets deleted