development

[raw nest]

Thanks for the response. I also found bcrypt after and I'm gonna use that. How many rounds are pretty secure? I mean if you have like 30 rounds one hash takes days xD (GitHub README)
What's a good amount of both?

[sharp geyser]

Actually I could just wrap the ore.Amount.Value in parans and - 5 it so it does that calculation first

or not it just remains 5 😔

Am I just that bad at math

[woeful pike]

uhh there's no one universal standard. I think it depends on your machine. I imagine whatever the default is works well enough

[raw nest]

Okay thanks a lot!

[wheat mesa]

Lua 🤢

[sharp geyser]

Hey guess what

Fuck off

[wheat mesa]

hey guess what

Ily 😘

[sharp geyser]

Ilyt

[earnest phoenix]

Since when is bcrypt better than scrypt? Always heard and read it was exactly the opposite. Bcrypt shouldn't really be used for future systems but go for argon2id and scrypt as alternative if argon2id is not available.

Yes scrypt is more 'recent' and less 'tested' which gives it a downside

scrypt is a memory hard algorithm that makes a bruteforcer pay a lot for both cpu and memory

Personally wouldn't qualify bcrypt as being more secure than scrypt, unless I've missed something which can be quite possible

Plus bcrypt has a limit of 72 bytes that scrypt, I believe, doesn't have

[earnest phoenix]

If you want to move to bcrypt, I believe the default cost of 12 is good enough, you can go to 14 if you wish; at least 10 for sure - keep in mind that bcrypt only works for 72 bytes

The limit of 72 bytes can be shown easily:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (72 chars) => $2a$12$qunATwVFGO3eM6vNZgoIsemyLKTNzqqGgTFlaEnQiaF6V1P03KCry
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (100 chars) => $2a$12$btgY9Xom0xY74Lrv1.3bKe0TCAKp2UXsBVGLEluLE8gD.w.ceeXiW

Now checking the hash generated by the 100 characters string with the 72 characters string, you will see a perfect match.

So keep in mind that only the 72 first bytes will be taken in consideration, and not the string in its entirety

[raw nest]

thanks alot, yes I will think about that 👍

[earnest phoenix]

Awesome Sorry if that was too much I just love to write

[raw nest]

No it's perfect. I also found the thing with only 72 bites but thanks for the quick demonstration :D

[slender wagon]

best payment methods for webapps so far?

[raw nest]

At least we don't argue 20mins again xD

[earnest phoenix]

[raw nest]

cool little thingy

from a private server?

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah, custom emotes for me so on my personal server

[raw nest]

did you design them yourself?

[earnest phoenix]

Commissioned someone, I can't draw ||Kind of goes off topic ||

[raw nest]

aight^^

[slender wagon]

.

[raw nest]

what you mean payment method?

[slender wagon]

your project provides premium features which would be the payment method you would implement

[raw nest]

stripe

[slender wagon]

not available 🗿

i don't wanna move into crypto since most don't know shit about using it

[raw nest]

stripe isn't crypto

[slender wagon]

i am aware

just saying since most of the popular payment methods aren't available for me

then i could use crypto

[slender wagon]

but this is the problem with it

[earnest phoenix]

Got that thing clarified btw?

[woeful pike]

I think the best is not storing any kind of passwords on your own system lol. Cryptography is difficult to get right so I just leave it to the experts. I've only added oauth to things I've built for years now and it works great

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah true

[solemn latch]

They would be right in my case.

[raw nest]

yess indeed

[earnest phoenix]

Nice

[neon leaf]

ok so I have this SQL Code,
select * from stats where type='msg' and guildid=$1 order by value DESC
how can I find a specific userid with that, aka to get his position?

[rustic nova]

elaborate "position"

ohh the position of the query response

[neon leaf]

yes

[rustic nova]

eh just iterate through it with indexes, index+1

that should be good enough

unless you directly want their position as in for example "You're currently position x"

[neon leaf]

yeah, basically that

[rustic nova]

don't think thats possible with sql itself, you might need to query the users you've already done, then index them yourself with a for loop

so for example something like

ranking = empty 2 dimensional array (index, stats_data)
for i in length of sql_response
ranking.append(i+1, stats_data)

you can do it the other way around too to be able to get that user easily

if thats understandable

[rigid vortex]

Do you know bot permissions on Bot-test guild?

[neon leaf]

thanks! will do that, btw you can do i++ instead of i+1

[slender wagon]

wym

[rustic nova]

yeah just for understanding

[rustic nova]

if you're referring to top.gg approval: https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000502501-how-the-bot-reviewal-process-works

[steady verge]

um hello. is this the right spot to talk about learning how to build bots and related tech?

cool. i just came across top.gg so there is still a lot i need to read, but I also have written a simple bot like a year ago. It just played ping pong with u. But I am looking for more information on how to build more complex stuff and perhaps more information on what are the benefits to developing this type of software?

[solemn latch]

"build more complex stuff"
like?

What you need to learn, and the tools you use will depend on what you want to do.

[steady verge]

before i landed on top.gg i was playing around with a bot called 'karuta' and also have been needing to investigate more cloud hosted DB solutions and possibly making a bot that utilizes an API with CRUD operations... but i am still kinda learning this stuff. Been primarily working in Node.js and HTML but looking to start expanding the stack...

im not exactly sure what i want to make in terms of bots, but it has my curiosity rn and seems like it could bridge into app dev nicely.

ideally for now i suppose creating a test bot with a DB would be a good start...?

[digital swan]

yeah why not try starting with a ticket bot or something

[solemn latch]

You've kind of already hit the nail on the head.

If your goal is to make something like karuta you'll want to learn individual concepts.

Try making a bot with a very basic economy system, or the suggestion max gave.

then if you want to learn how an API works with bots you can try making a dashboard which users could access their economy info, or tickets.

[steady verge]

ticket bot sounds interesting and yeah that also sounds good.

whatever helps me to learn the fundamentals of linkage between the services.

def like building UI

def interested in creating economies...

also like making games

[solemn latch]

Just be a bit weary of economy bots. Discord has taken some stances against them recently.

[steady verge]

it could just be a user based system as well.. i think?

[solemn latch]

https://dankmemer.lol/community/blog/app-discovery-disappointment

[steady verge]

good article only half done tho, just want to say, i don't want to do gambling...

[deft rock]

😂 ngl its a bad bot anyway (my opinion) but like yeah it has gambling etc but in the end like they said its not using real money for real money so it wouldnt break the tos. Not sure what will happen. The cringy part (again my opinion) is at the end they leave an invite to the bot 🤦‍♂️

[solemn latch]

Dank memer isnt the only large bot not allowed on app discovery

[steady verge]

ok finished reading it

so is a user bot or farm basically kinda like a zombie army ?

[solemn latch]

They are user accounts made to farm a bot economy.

IE, if you get coins every level up a user might selfbot 1000 accounts and have them all chat just to get coins.

[deft rock]

I know sadly

unbelivaboat isnt one right?

[steady verge]

this is part of why CAPTCHA protocols exist?

[deft rock]

what do you mean

[solemn latch]

Well, the bots cant use captcha unless they make you visit their site.

Which dank memer doesn't have to do if they don't want to.

[steady verge]

its the name of a virus that would take a part of the PC and dedicate it elsewhere on the internet. like a bot net. but it had all kinds of applications. i am only vaguely aware of it.

[deft rock]

ah

[solemn latch]

That's probably not what most users used.

[steady verge]

oh no it was just me trying to understand the nature of what the article mentioned

bots can be used for good or evil, essentially...

[solemn latch]

I dont think that was the main point of the article though.
The main point is, dank memer and other bots cant be listed for gambling like commands

[steady verge]

no it was a lesser point. i got the main point.

discord pushed a policy that blacklisted a bunch of bots for having gambling fns

im still interested in building another one.

any particular reference material or links for beginner bot / mid level coder?

[solemn latch]

Nodejs?

[steady verge]

that's what i have been using as a host for my project yes.

but that project is a straight up game. see bio.

[solemn latch]

https://discordjs.guide/#before-you-begin

Not the best resource, but its okay with getting familiar with discordjs

[steady verge]

is that like the main lib used for serious bots?

[solemn latch]

serious(the largest) bots make their own lib most of the time.

[deft rock]

^

[steady verge]

by creating their own API or host?

[earnest phoenix]

Large bots do use discord.js, and also sometimes Eris (although not really maintained much anymore), they also sometimes fork the existing libraries and make tweaks to them

But you're better off using the baseline libraries, discord.js will do and it supports most of the things you'll ever need

[steady verge]

cool

thanks a bunch

[astral path]

i dont understand why you would do that unless you had a way to seriously optimize it for your specific bot

[solemn latch]

Yeah

I dont encourage that at all

[steady verge]

dependency issues mebbe?

i know that was my motivation for writing my own game engine... among others...

[earnest phoenix]

They do it because of insane amount of things and load they have to handle due to the insane amount of guilds the bot is in, but nowadays that's not needed

[steady verge]

also quick question: what is the voting about? what does that effect?

[earnest phoenix]

Voting in Top.gg?

[steady verge]

i notice most of the bots seem to have this fn

/vote

are the bots being ranked or something?

[earnest phoenix]

They just provide links to bot lists that bot is listed on, so you can vote it for it to be placed higher in those bot lists

[steady verge]

ah so its basically an indexing fn

[earnest phoenix]

More votes = higher visibility in bot lists = more users

[steady verge]

sort of like SEO

[astral path]

kinda yeah, except it's direct user interaction that leads to the bot getting promoted, rather than the bots contents.

[steady verge]

interesting

🚬

[solemn latch]

SEO is a factor when listing on botlists though

[steady verge]

SEO always a factor these days...

i swear it has bled into my naming conventions

this looks like a really good starting point tho

thanks again

ok 1 more question and this one is gonna sound dumb...sigh~

do you guys know which discord server is the official discord developer server?

[sharp geyser]

SEO is a factor of whether or not you want your site to be one of the top searches on google :^)

[earnest phoenix]

discord.gg/discord-developers

[solemn latch]

I think a lot of people forget when writing a bot description on a bot list you want to optimize for SEO wherever possible.
Not just for the botlist, but for other search engines.

If you have a smaller bot, and not the greatest SEO for your website(or no website at all) writing good content and not using an Iframe might be the best way to boost your growth with not very much work and for free.

Bot/server pages which optimize for SEO seem to grow faster

[steady verge]

anything that has a readable name field should be addressed with care. :3

another question: What are the guilds in relation to bots?

[solemn latch]

servers

[steady verge]

ahh-

[whole knot]

As "Activity" is a Nitro feature, will bots be able to also start them without the server having a specific level? 🤔

As bots apparently have some advantages when it comes to user-Nitro features

Do not know if there was an announcement on that or similar

[boreal iron]

What are you speaking about?

A per server activity instead of a global presence?

[lyric mountain]

Bots don't have nitro

The reason they can use emotes from other servers is merely an exception because it'd be dumb to limit that

Aside from that, bots have no other nitro features

[whole knot]

Sad...

[rustic nova]

hey

say that again

#discord-news

[deft rock]

you can delete them not edit them

[rustic nova]

you can edit them

[deft rock]

prove it XD

[solemn latch]

You're referring to

Bunnies make noises, but they are very quiet. Content rabbits purrrrr by gently grinding their teeth together, and excited rabbits oink

Right?

Its the most important part.

[deft rock]

lol

[rustic nova]

of course

[rustic nova]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/receiving-and-responding#edit-original-interaction-response

this includes ephemeral messages

[deft rock]

gotta TL;DR

[sharp geyser]

It works the same way as deleting but instead you use patch

ez

[solemn latch]

Its one sentence 👀

[sharp geyser]

Hey woo, give me 5$ and I can turn it into 500 dollhairs for ya ;)

[solemn latch]

500 whats

lets gooo

worth

[sharp geyser]

facts

[boreal iron]

Well tbh that’s not really important or necessary at all
Editing them, follow ups and now deletions can always fail since the message could already be dismissed, means has an invalid token

[rustic nova]

That is true

[sharp geyser]

its also true that people are lazy

9 times out of 10 they will leave it there

[rustic nova]

let's hope libraries would keep track of that lol

[sharp geyser]

probably not aurel

[boreal iron]

And even if I can delete ephemeral messages now, I can also not do that and rely on that they disappear automatically anyways

[sharp geyser]

They'd probably just throw an invalid token error if you try they wont likely do much other than that

[boreal iron]

Ephemeral messages can be seen by the recipient only anyways, so the data you provide to the user, is either personal or just out of context which doesn’t belong in the chat to reduce spam

Which makes deleting em really pointless

[sharp geyser]

honestly tho ephemeral messages was by far the best idea discord came up with

[boreal iron]

Yes

At least a good idea tho

[sharp geyser]

I think its up there with the best

The best idea by far is making a bot api tho

all those pesky user accounts

I imagine it was hell when they didn't have a public bot api

[rustic nova]

deleting and/or editing is probably more useful on short notice things rather than something like autodelete after 30 seconds

[real lynx]

I want him to delete the data after two minutes, but he doesn't delete it, what's the problem?

const mongoose = require('mongoose');
const Schema = mongoose.Schema;
const schema = new Schema({ UserID: String,
expireAt: { type: Date, default: Date.now, index: { expires: "2m" } } });

module.exports = mongoose.model("nsfwvote", schema);```

my goal is normally to save it after the person has voted and delete the data after 12 hours

[earnest phoenix]

2m isn't a valid time for mongoose

use time seconds instead

put 120 instead of 2m

[real lynx]

is there any other problem

[earnest phoenix]

no

[real lynx]

i'll try when I get up tomorrow

[real lynx]

would it be okay if I recorded it this way

const votess = require("./models/nsfwvote");
await votess.create({UserID: req.vote.user});```

for example, I tried for 2 minutes at first, he deleted the data, but it stays here, then I tried for 12 hours, he deleted it again in 2 minutes, what can I do

[lyric mountain]

can't u just store the vote timestamp like a sane programmer?

[rustic nova]

redundancy ✨

I need it but actually don't

[earnest phoenix]

You can use findOneAndUpdate to update the document if it exists or create a new one if it doesn't.

const votess = require("./models/nsfwvote");
await votess.findOneAndUpdate(
  { UserID: req.vote.user },
  { UserID: req.vote.user },
  { upsert: true }
);

[sharp geyser]

it bothers me that the text isn't centered

[boreal iron]

Well yeah if you aren’t familiar with the containers and tables and their alignment it can be quite challenging

Except cosmetics and animations nobody actually need, CSS isn’t difficult tbh unless you understand the mentioned

In other words Lay-out principals

[hasty mulch]

if signal == '80':
  if track == '80':
    if penalty == 'false':
      if overspeed == 'false':
        file = discord.File("/home/pi/Documents/Room_Sealer/media/adu/80/80-80.png", filename="80-80.png")
        embed.set_image(url='attachment://80-80.png')
     else:
        file = discord.File("//home/pi/Documents/Room_Sealer/media/adu/80/80-80o.png", filename="80-80o.png")
        embed.set_image(url='attachment://80-80o.png')
   else:
     file = discord.File("//home/pi/Documents/Room_Sealer/media/adu/80/80-80op.png", filename="80-80op.png")
     embed.set_image(url='attachment://80-80op.png')

Could I f-string the file paths and skip having the first two if statements?

[rustic nova]

yes you can

would format it like:
doesnt match what you need, but something like this

file = f"/home/pi/Documents/Room_Sealer/media/adu/80/{signal}-{track}{'o' if overspeed else ''}{'p' if penalty else ''}.png"

as a overkill way per-se

[hasty mulch]

Alright, cause this command is over 1,000 lines long and I haven't created the rest of the ADU yet

[real lynx]

but now I have to delete it every 12 hours because when I can't find data, the gif system will shut down, if any, it will work.

[earnest phoenix]

add an interval function into it

[real lynx]

setInterval(async function() {
    const votess = require("./models/nsfwvote");
    var vote = await votess.find()
      await  votess.deleteOne({"expireAt" : {$gt : Date.now() - 10000}});

}, 5000);```

[earnest phoenix]

my bad, timeout is better than interval.

setTimeout(async function() {
    const votess = require("./models/nsfwvote");
    var vote = await votess.find()
      await  votess.deleteOne({"expireAt" : {$gt : Date.now() - 10000}});
    setTimeout(arguments.callee, 5000);
}, 5000); 

[fossil bronze]

Thank you for the approval (:

My first slash cmd bot

[lyric mountain]

why would it be?

[digital swan]

why dont you just store the timestamp of when the user voted, and when fetching to see if the user has voted or not just subtract 12 hours from current time. if the timestamp is before then they havent voted. if its after they have voted. then you dont really have to unnecessarily run a 5 second interval checking for expired votes

[earnest phoenix]

setTimeout is better than setInterval because it executes the code only once.

[digital swan]

the point of interval is to run the code multiple times

[lyric mountain]

"better" is a strong word, why tf would u use recursion when setInterval is already there for that

[earnest phoenix]

🤷

just my opinion though so don't be that mad lol

[lament rock]

The only reason I could think of is NodeJS.Timeouts block the process from closing by itself if there's nothing else running like normal, so once the timeout does eventually trigger, it'll close unlike intervals which will go forever, but even then, there's Timeout.unref()

[quartz kindle]

i mean, a recursive timeout is pretty much the same thing as an interval

it just has a few extra calls

[earnest phoenix]

yep, just like this.

function setIntervalRecursive(callback, delay, ...args) {
  callback(...args);
  return setTimeout(setIntervalRecursive, delay, callback, delay, ...args);
}
const interval = setIntervalRecursive(() => {
  console.log('Hello World');
}, 1000);

setTimeout(() => {
  clearTimeout(interval);
}, 5000);

it is better to use timeout since it is more accurate

[quartz kindle]

why is it more accurate?

none of them have any timing guarantees

[lyric mountain]

it's like saying dihydrogen monoxide is less healthy than water

[lament rock]

[earnest phoenix]

Because the timing of setTimeout() is determined by the runtime environment rather than the clock.

[earnest phoenix]

😳

[lyric mountain]

setInterval isn't defined by the clock

you're confusing setInterval with cron

[earnest phoenix]

yes

it is

the built in setInterval() function makes a call to the clock's setInterval function, which then sets an interval

[lyric mountain]

setInterval/setTimeout both use a millisecond timeout, which is based on the timestamp of the calling time

basically if (now >= startTime + delay) doStuff()

[earnest phoenix]

setInterval is still defined by the clock

[quartz kindle]

wdym makes a call to the "clock's setInterval function"? what clock?

[earnest phoenix]

the clock itself

lol

[lyric mountain]

"defined by the clock" makes no sense at all

[quartz kindle]

what clock lol

[lyric mountain]

1ms is 1ms regardless of whatever clock u use

[earnest phoenix]

it's defined when the clock is ticking

[quartz kindle]

they are both run during the event loop's timer phase

[earnest phoenix]

the body of the code, which has a definition of setInterval inside it

[lyric mountain]

I'm 100% sure that's the case for cron, not timeout/interval

[earnest phoenix]

no, it is defined by the clock still

[quartz kindle]

both setInterval and setTimeout are scheduled to run during the timers phase

both are affected by the event loop lag

so none of them offer any timing guarantees

if the event loop lags by 5ms, both wil be delayed by 5ms

whenever the event loop reaches the timers phase, both of them check if the current time has exceeded the scheduled time, and if it did, it runs the timeout body

[earnest phoenix]

👏

yes correct

[quartz kindle]

so there is no difference in accuracy between them lol

[earnest phoenix]

yeah I'm wrong, both are an approximation

[quartz kindle]

👍

also, js has unicorns in it

magic confirmed

[neon leaf]

lets say I want to make a pagination for a baltop command, I currently have limit 10 on my query, how can I make it skip the first 10 results and give me 10 again for the second page? (sql)

[quartz kindle]

LIMIT 10 OFFSET 10

[neon leaf]

thanks

[hidden gorge]

if file == "north" or "North":
   Chapter_1.North.north()
   elif file == "west" or "West":
    print("")```

but elif works in my other files

[digital swan]

put it on the same indent level as if

[hidden gorge]

fixe

fixed*

[raw nest]

  last_password_reset BigInt
  last_login          BigInt
  created_at          BigInt
  updated_at          BigInt

If I have a user table with these columns. Is it good to store these times with a unix timestamp (milliseconds in js so BigInt)? I'm not sure if it's better safe them as DateTime or something

[boreal iron]

depends on you, datetime is a constant, means when inserting it, it wont be affected by the timezone

timestamp however will be affected by the system timezone or time_zone setting of your database config

(when inserting it)

[rustic nova]

probably better to store it in a timestamp directly instead

[boreal iron]

except a few examples of providing meta data only, I would also use datetime

[rustic nova]

as long as its only for internal use, unless you're telling that user when they last changed the password

actually, you can calculate the current time for a user based on their browser and the timestamp with a baseline can you?

[raw nest]

So DateTime is just UTC? And timestmap changes each time_zone?

[boreal iron]

that still requires you to run the database and backend servers in the same timezone

no datetime is not UTC

datetime is a constant

For example: 25th of Sep 2022 - 19:00 is the same date and time across all timezones

[raw nest]

ah okay

I'm always confused about that..

[boreal iron]

There's literally no disadvantage of generally using datetime

Technically spoken, it's the better option and long term solution

Since 2038... and our 64 bit issue

[raw nest]

So I could use DateTime and when there are two users from different timezones ?

[boreal iron]

The constant is the same for any user in any timezone, as I explained above

[raw nest]

yes now let's say there a log that says when a user loged in. When I use DateTime it says the same time for both but it actually was different points in time for them

[boreal iron]

If you wanna calculate a cooldown or xx since xx you have to respect the user's timezone

[raw nest]

yes but then DateTime doesn't work?

[boreal iron]

When querying your database you can get the datetime value and convert it to your local timezone (in your example the user's timezone)

[raw nest]

Ahh okay I can convert on select

[boreal iron]

Any language I know has inbuilt functions to parse strings to a timestamp

If just the raw date matters, for example when showing Your ban will expire at 25th of Sep 2022 - 19:00 then no conversation is needed at all

As once again:

[...] is the same date and time across all timezones

[raw nest]

okay ty

[boreal iron]

You can also add a timestamp as value of your datetime col

... SET last_password_reset = FROM_UNIXTIME(<timestamp>) WHERE ...

As well as requesting the datetime value in your query as timestamp

SELECT UNIX_TIMESTAMP(last_password_reset) AS last_password_reset FROM ...

But this will then again use your system timezone or configured timezone as relative timezone

So bringing the timestamp into the required date time timezone is required for both field types

But like I said datetime has the major advantage over timestamp that it is a constant

(and will be calculatable on 32bit systems after 2038)

[earnest phoenix]

Imagine having 32 bits systems in 2038 in the first place

[neon leaf]

Ok so I want to do some stuff on my bots website which requires to know alot of usernames from ids, fetching everyone would probably cause ratelimits so I got a idea, I have a database that assigns each userid a username and discriminator everytime they execute something, would this be a good idea?

[quartz kindle]

sure

every time they execute something, check if there was any change

and if there is any change, update your db

[neon leaf]

btw, whats this error? I get that like every 5 min when I try to restart my bot

[quartz kindle]

an error from a promise or an async function that was not caught

[neon leaf]

yeah, it also happens on a bot with only discordjs installed

[quartz kindle]

unfortunately those kinds of errors are very hard to solve because the information to find them is lost

only djs installed but with your code right?

check if you have any promise or async function without a try catch or a .catch

[neon leaf]

nop, template bot

[quartz kindle]

what template?

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/Tunakirkoc/Discord-Bot-JS

[quartz kindle]

then post an issue about it there

[neon leaf]

this is my index:
https://hastebin.com/ucegukisur.js

[boreal iron]

guess you don't even need other files

one-file-bot-template-solution

[lament rock]

multi files is actually the move

[compact urchin]

Hello

[quartz kindle]

uhhh wat

am i reading

[neon leaf]

yes

[compact urchin]

How do I apply for staff team

[quartz kindle]

you have both mongoose and pg, you have both a client and a sharding manager in the same file

plus you're caching all members

[compact urchin]

What

[quartz kindle]

in the sharding manager

[neon leaf]

yes, cuz dashboard, and im not completely away from mongo yet

[quartz kindle]

how many guilds is your bot in?

[boreal iron]

man... imagine joining a server and asking how to apply for staff

[neon leaf]

11

[quartz kindle]

why are you using the sharding manager

[neon leaf]

I dont know but I have no reason not to because its set to auto

[quartz kindle]

you know you're essentially loading 2 bots

[neon leaf]

yes

[quartz kindle]

or rather, loading your bot twice

for no reason

[lament rock]

I have the overhead to do it. Might as well

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[neon leaf]

I mean I got an amd ryzen 7 5800x @ 3.8ghz with 10gb ram so why not

[quartz kindle]

are you self hosting?

[neon leaf]

yes

kinda

[quartz kindle]

how are you gonna play games when your bot is using 5gb ram

[neon leaf]

I have a server for it

not gonna have my pc on 24/7

[quartz kindle]

does your server have 10gb ram too?

[neon leaf]

yes

[quartz kindle]

lel ok

[neon leaf]

thats fast

I love my screenrecorder /s

anyway, that db thing is like 4x faster

[eternal osprey]

hey guys

how do i split a string by a certain character?

Imagine i have a sequence of word1_word2_word3 etc et

how would i cut it at _, in c++ btw!

[lyric mountain]

can you use std lib?

[eternal osprey]

uhh

#include <iostream>
#include <fstream>
#include <cassert>
#include <cstring>

string

[lyric mountain]

only that?

[eternal osprey]

yeah

cstring is the only thing

[lyric mountain]

well, then you'll need to google it a bit

[eternal osprey]

i will need to split a space btw

sorry made a mistake earlier on

[deft rock]

const { Events } = require('discord.js');
const { guildId, RoleID } = require('../config.json');

module.exports = {
    name: Events.GuildMemberAdd,
    async execute(member) {
        console.log(`New member joined: ${member.user.tag}`);
        if (client.guilds.cache.get(guildId)) {
            return member.roles.add(member.guild.roles.cache.get(RoleID));
        }
    }
};

When a user joins it doesnt get the role any ideas? (RoleID is in the config.json file)

[boreal iron]

You’re not awaiting the promise, doing any permission check, if your client is able to add roles to the member and you’re not checking if the guild (part of the guild member object) matches your guild ID of your config file

[ember zephyr]

does anyone know why eris is getting so many downloads lately?

[wheat mesa]

Btw if that config.json file ever changes, don’t expect it to update in your code until the bot is restarted

[ember zephyr]

from 5k/8k to 43mln

[deft rock]

I use nodemon so it auto restarts

[wheat mesa]

Not what I was trying to say

[deft rock]

oh?

[boreal iron]

Well he could technically clear the cache and reload his event file and it would be up to date

[ember zephyr]

and there was no update with some incredible feature

[wheat mesa]

I’m saying that the config.json file’s contents will be cached upon the first time it is loaded, and therefore it won’t change until you restart the bot or clear the cache

[boreal iron]

As we don’t know that yet it’s just an assumption

[wheat mesa]

It’s fine if that file doesn’t change though

[boreal iron]

Anyways let’s resolve the issues first I mentioned

[lament rock]

probably just "hrrr djs sucks now"

its so bloated and unbearable

[earnest phoenix]

Someone can add my bot in his server ? DM ME

[deft rock]

?

[errant creek]

1. "djs bad now 🤮"
2. npm bots
3. some broken ci system or something

[errant creek]

top gg is sending me multiple requests

[lyric mountain]

Did u remember to return a 2xx status code?

[errant creek]

r i g h t

lol

yeah i forgot to

oops

[wind cipher]

Hey

[fervent moss]

Why is it so i have a command which will find and cache emoji from client but when i add emoji and try to use that command it just doesn't work the bot needs a re-start and then starts working why so?

[rustic nova]

because the client doesn't know that emoji exists

you'll need to cache it again

though I suggest you to statically list all emojis you use on your bot rather than dynamically loading them from your support server for example

[radiant kraken]

how

it's just a Python script

here's the file contents btw

[earnest phoenix]

the error says it all

[radiant kraken]

i know, but i'm not executing it, i'm just reading the file contents

also i've never seen Windows flag a Python file as malware before

[rustic nova]

fun fact

I had that before

that's because you got some example code that is often used in python based keyloggers lmao

it's so funny that defender picked that up

[radiant kraken]

that's crazy

[rustic nova]

you won't be able to do anything with it until you either whitelist it or rewrite it

[radiant kraken]

obfuscate it then

ezpz

[little harbor]

Hi, I'm currently running my bot using Heroku and I'm currently looking for a alternative free server to replace Heroku. Anyone has their recommendation for free online hosting servers/VPS?

[solemn latch]

You wont find very many servers/VPS's for free.
Especially ones that are reliable.

Oracle has an ARM VPS that's free, but I've seen multiple reports of people having their VPS shutoff randomly and not be allowed to start it again.

Google cloud has a free VPS, https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compute.

I would recommend the google free VPS over the oracle, if you ask me it will be a bit more reliable of a platform.

[neon leaf]

Lets say I have an array with 96 objects, how can I set it to example 25 (the last values should be deleted, not first) in js?

[solemn latch]

slice might be what you want.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/web/javascript/reference/global_objects/array/slice

[neon leaf]

thanks!

[spark flint]

AWS also has a good free one

I've had mine running for a few months with no issue

[wheat mesa]

AWS can slap you with a hefty overage bill if you accidentally go over your limits without realizing it

I use Oracle because they can’t hit me with an overage, if I go over my limits it just stops my service until the next cycle

(For free)

[green kestrel]

get an rpi and plug it in somewhere in your home

it'll be more stable than any free vps

don't install a gui btw, those things have barely any ram or CPU to start with, you don't want to waste it on xorg

[cursive musk]

const weather = require("weather-js");

const discord = require("discord.js");

//TIME TO END STREAM

module.exports = {
  name: "weather",
  description: "Get the current weather of a specific location.",
  category: "fun",
  usage: "weather <>",
  cooldown: 5,

  run: (client, message, args) => {
    if (!args.length) {
      return message.channel.send(
        "Please give the weather location"
      );
    }

    weather.find(
      { search: args.join(" "), degreeType: "C" },
      function (err, result) {
        try {
          let embed = new discord.MessageEmbed()

            .setTitle(`Weather - ${result[0].location.name}`)

            .setColor("#ff2050")

            .setDescription("Temperature units can may be differ some time")

            .addField(
              "Temperature",
              `${result[0].current.temperature} Celcius`,
              true
            )

            .addField("Sky Text", result[0].current.skytext, true)

            .addField("Humidity", result[0].current.humidity, true)

            .addField("Wind Speed", result[0].current.windspeed, true) //What about image

            .addField(
              "Observation Time",
              result[0].current.observationtime,
              true
            )

            .addField("Wind Display", result[0].current.winddisplay, true)

            .setThumbnail(result[0].current.imageUrl);

          message.channel.send(embed);
        } catch (err) {
          return message.channel.send(
            "Unable To Get the data of Given location"
          );
        }
      }
    );
  },
};

Attempted a simple weather command

TypeError: Command weather doesn't export a class. lol

[pale vessel]

are you using some sort of a command handler?

check sample commands that it provided and see how they're defined

[solemn latch]

I'm guessing pogy's command handler

[pale vessel]

I legit cannot take you seriously with that profile picture

[solemn latch]

👀 I forgot to change it back.

[pale vessel]

keep it that way, thank you

[rustic nova]

flaze weeb confirmed

as always

[solemn latch]

Anyway, with pogy's command handler you need to extend Command.

https://github.com/peterhanania/Pogy/blob/main/structures/Command.js

Pogy doesn't use the common djs v13 style of command handler.

[real lynx]

Why am I getting this error? reflects after disconnection

connect section

const { connect, connection: dbs } = require('mongoose');

connect("the secret part", { useNewUrlParser: true, useUnifiedTopology: true, });
dbs.on('connected', async () => console.log(`Successfully connected to the database!`));
dbs.on('disconnected', () => console.log('Disconnected from the database!'));
dbs.on('error', (error) => console.log(`Unable to connect to the database!\nError: ${error}`));
dbs.on('reconnected', async () => console.log(`Reconnected to the database!`));```

[boreal iron]

The hostname can not be resolved

Either try the IP you can get by resolving the hostname yourself or check your nameserver settings of your server

[boreal pewter]

Yo, I had a Verified bot, and I took it offline about a year ago.
I see now you need message intents (So imma re-write to use the slash commands) and also discord.py is discontinued

TLDR it for me, to develop a python bot, what is the go-to library these days?

[earnest phoenix]

discord.py was discontinued, it's back on track now and it's maintenance now continues

[boreal iron]

until this pleb will discontinue it again

[earnest phoenix]

discord.py

[boreal pewter]

oh tnx 🙂

[stiff sparrow]

I'm guessing that this isn't possible, but by any chance has someone using discord.js found a way to get the ping time from the user's Discord app to the bot? I know about client.ws.ping, but I'm pretty sure that's ping time from the bot to Discord's servers.

Unless the WebSocket is actually going directly between the user and the bot?

I don't know much about how Discord works internally.

[rustic nova]

its not possible, as there's never a connection between the user and the app directly

its always through discord

aka its websocket

[pale vessel]

weebsocket

you weeb

[lyric mountain]

the ONLY way you'd be able to do something like this is if you had direct connection to the client (like giving them some kind of app to install)

for obvious reasons, this has a little flaw in it

[vestal finch]

i want to run a Websocket script on python and get discord bot to receive such message and send it to a channel

is it possible ?

[wheat mesa]

thank you for being specific

lol

[rustic nova]

probably messages

yk messages and send it into a channel smh so apparent

[lyric mountain]

ok so, if I understood that right, u want to make a "message sender" client for your bot?

like telling ur bot to send X on channel Y

[vestal finch]

yes

[lyric mountain]

yes, it's possible

not only is it possible, but I also have something like that on my bot

[vestal finch]

well i cant seem to get it to work

[lyric mountain]

skill issue

(ok, why?)

[vestal finch]

liq.ws.run_forever() - webSocket ..
dis.run(TOKEN) - discord

if the websocket start , the discord bot doesnt 😄

[lyric mountain]

what websocket lib are u using?

[vestal finch]

import websocket

[lyric mountain]

...

is it the built-in websocket?

if so, use ws lib

[vestal finch]

no

[vestal finch]

Iam

i just cant get the webSocket run with discord

as both of them run forver

so if one starts , it doesnt let the other run

[lyric mountain]

did u do npm i ws?

[wheat mesa]

he's using python

[lyric mountain]

ah, nvm

[vestal finch]

python

[lyric mountain]

well, python is monothread, but it's odd to have a sync ws lib

[wheat mesa]

js is also monothread

idk how python handles websockets, but I'm assuming you should just be fine to use your library's built-in webhooks, no?

Since 99% of discord libs also support webhooks

[lyric mountain]

ye, but that's why I said it's odd to have a sync ws lib

[lyric mountain]

websocket, not hook

[wheat mesa]

ah

I forgor

[lyric mountain]

💀

[vestal finch]

😶

[wheat mesa]

also those cheese breads turned out amazing

(sorry off topic)

I can't help anymore on this cus it's python, gl

[lyric mountain]

pão de queijo, not cheese bread

[wheat mesa]

yes 🙄

I was worried it was going to suck because it wasn't sticking together in the mixer but then I put in an egg and it instantly started to bind into a dough lmao

[lyric mountain]

lmao

[wheat mesa]

very sticky to handle though, I must say it's difficult to shape them into balls

[lyric mountain]

I wonder how tf they even discovered that mashing bread with cheese together would result in something good

and not some humongous mass of cheese slime

[wheat mesa]

lol

[quartz kindle]

how the fuck they even discovered bread to begin with

[rustic nova]

how the fuck is development suddenly about bread and cheese

[quartz kindle]

take some plant, reduce it to dust, add water, make a bland mass of something, add bacteria and cook

[lament rock]

A runtime I'm trying to work with doesn't support any K,V pair types and I'm trying to make my own and it also doesn't support static fields or constructor initializers for user defined types

I can probably get around not supporting constructor initializers

[earnest phoenix]

Meanwhile:

[boreal iron]

Ok we’re posting random shit?!

Lemme participate

if that ain’t satisfying then idk

If only the Thread network would be a bit more reliable

[sudden geyser]

shit movie

[deft rock]

console.log('Don\'t not shit on the movie. That\'s what toilets are for')

[lyric mountain]

imagine using \ to escape quotes

[deft rock]

😛

won't work otherwise lol

[pseudo cloak]

hi

[deft rock]

bye

[lament rock]

alternatively, use different string initializers

[lyric mountain]

console.log("Don't need to escape if u use another type of string literal")

[deft rock]

I mean yeah I guess I could use those too

[lyric mountain]

console.log(`"But what if I need both?" you might ask, well, it doesn't matter because js has 3`)

then comes groovy, with 6 string literals

[deft rock]

wym 6?

[lyric mountain]

def a = "This is a string"
def b = 'This is a string'
def c = /This is a string/
def d = $/This is a string/$
def e = """This is a string"""
def f = '''This is a string'''

[lament rock]

thanks I hate it

[deft rock]

those are all fr strings I can use!?!?

[lament rock]

in groovy

[deft rock]

Thanks I fucking hate it

[lyric mountain]

you? no, but I can

I fckin love groovy

[deft rock]

the bot? or is there a language called groovy

[lyric mountain]

the language

[deft rock]

interesting, ive never heard of it tbh

[lyric mountain]

5.times { println "Hello world!" }

[deft rock]

whats better. JS or groovy

[lyric mountain]

I'd say groovy because u get threads

[lament rock]

I need to learn HLSL specifically for compute shaders so I can get around stupid BS of a bloated runtime wasting cpu cycles when I can just compute it all on the gpu

[lyric mountain]

I imagine groing from js to groovy isn't hard at all, since it feels a lot like js

[lament rock]

like what kind of runtime that runs 30x slower than c# native doesn't have K,V

[lyric mountain]

lmao hlsl is nightmare fuel

[deft rock]

gotta document on groovy?

[lyric mountain]

https://groovy-lang.org/syntax.html this?

[deft rock]

just wanna look into it so idk what it is lol

[lyric mountain]

there's also the "groovy goodness" wiki that shows the fun stuff u can do in it

[lament rock]

It'd be cool anyways so that I can write an uber shader or make use of "ray tracing" with ray marching on a vr platform with mobile players

[lyric mountain]

ok so, js has ts right? a superset that adds strictness to js

well, java has groovy, a superset that removes strictness from java

[deft rock]

i hate ts with a passion but yes it does have it

so basiclly what im gathering groovy is basiclly ts but for java

aka a subthingy

[lyric mountain]

kinda

all java projects are compatible with groovy 1:1

[lament rock]

it's actually super sad tho because everyone who talks about optimization in the runtime I'm trying to use is basically saying that I should use it as sparingly as possible and instead opt for using animators (Unity3D)

[lyric mountain]

it's a very fun language, I was surprised when I discovered it

and the fact I can use it for runtime scripting fit like a glove for my use-case

[lyric mountain]

can't u precompile it?

[deft rock]

Ok, so I use js would it be hard and/or complex to change to java?

[lyric mountain]

to java, specifically, I'd say medium difficulty

since you'll need to use a fuckton lot of specificity compared to js

if u hate ts, u wont like java at all

but tbh, I like java and hate ts too

[lament rock]

Kind of. The C# gets transpiled down to asm bytecode, but it's still interpreted

[lyric mountain]

u could make dlls so u can have pre-baked stuff

[lament rock]

No dll loading in the game. Anti cheat

[lyric mountain]

a

[lament rock]

also wouldn't work anyways because they're components you add onto game objects

idk if you know a thing about Unity, but they're just fancy MonoBehaviours

[lyric mountain]

I started using c# not too long ago, and barely if ever touched unity

[lament rock]

I'd recommend touching it more. Maybe getting engrossed into platforms like VRChat. Would give you an excuse to learn and develop more

I'm still kinda learning, but I know enough to make what I want to make regardless of performance

[lyric mountain]

it's in my todo list, I'd love to make a standalone game out of my tcg

sadly, even if I did I'd not be able to make it public because...anime stuff

[lament rock]

?

[lyric mountain]

my tcg uses cards based on anime characters

so I cannot legally make a game outside of discord

thus I have virtually no reason to touch unity, for now at least

but I will, one day

[lament rock]

whats a tcg

[lyric mountain]

trading card game, think of something like yugioh or heartstone

[lament rock]

oh ok, just needed the acronym

Could make your own characters influenced by specific characters

[lyric mountain]

I suck at drawing

[lament rock]

if art is a problem, could end up being low quality like your average deck of cards

the king and ace and stuff aren't too terribly detailed

or use symbols which represent

[lyric mountain]

not enough will nor time for that, since I still need to make new cards regularly for my bot

if I'd make a unity game, it'd use the same cards from the bot

[lament rock]

your community got you slaving away I guess

[lyric mountain]

lmao you bet it

luckily I managed to get some volunteers to gather images and rarities for each anime, so I mostly do the QA and programming

[lament rock]

still quite a bit of work I'd imagine. I'd hate to sit there and fill in JSON

[lyric mountain]

oh no json at all, the cards info are stored in the database

images are stored in the vps (and in a repo)

my api fetches the image for the bot, and my game engine does the rest

intellij allows me to have code highlighting/intellisense inside database editor, so it's almost the same as coding normally

[lament rock]

I'm already looking for people to take over my bot's organization and online presence because while it isn't a ton of work, it's really advanced and really annoying work because I'm now in the realm of needing a metric butt ton of native libraries to decode a lot of audio formats to PCM and then figure out how to do audio processing on pcm so I can skip ffmpeg

[lyric mountain]

oh, music stuff

[lament rock]

yes its so bad

please save me

[lyric mountain]

I can imagine it, especially when you have to deal mostly with very low level stuff

the only time I ever used ffmpeg was to make a replay system, and it was awful

[lament rock]

Tim and I looked at a breakdown of opus packets and we couldn't understand it at all

ffmpeg is god awful but it's so good at what it does

[lyric mountain]

indeed

[lament rock]

too bad there's nothing really for js

even the libmp3lame native addons don’t support NAPI

I'll have to start learning cpp to write my own addons

[radiant kraken]

good luck

i pity for your sanity

[lament rock]

What's that last word?

[earnest phoenix]

E

[radiant kraken]

Oh right you've already lost yours

[boreal iron]

It’s called music

[radiant kraken]

c looks like a regex

[green kestrel]

@lament rock what's your bot?

what kind of audio work does it do

[slender wagon]

Exactlyyy bruh, why do they make their life harder

[boreal iron]

I’m more concerned about “don’t not …”

[stiff dust]

I want to send the message at 00:00 it send it on time but send it infinite time any idea?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956968473689473104/1031303814956982312/unknown.png

[rigid maple]

Create a bool to check if it is sended
Set boolean true after 1 message and don't send message if boolean is true

Do false again after 1 minute

or set a specific time to send it at that time for example
00(hours):00(minutes):01(seconds)

[stiff dust]

how can I do it?

[lament rock]

just normal audio playback, but also supports transformers like pitch and playback rate

[green kestrel]

these are actually really simple if you use a compiled c compatible language

what language is it right now?

[radiant kraken]

TypeScript iirc

[radiant kraken]

simple yes

[green kestrel]

c++, rust or even C will make a much nicer language and all you'll need is libmpg123 and libopus

or you can directly link libavcodec

[neon leaf]

not related to development but does anyone know how to get linux kernel 6 on debian?

[green kestrel]

by running sid ig

[neon leaf]

can sid be considered "stable"?

[green kestrel]

hell no

[neon leaf]

oh yeah, just tried to install it on a test vm and it wont boot anymore

[fossil bronze]

recursive timeout? While(true) loop with await sleep() is best!!

[green kestrel]

my servers graph has a shark fin lol

daaaa dum, daaaaa dum, da dum da dum da dum 🎵

[rotund patio]

🦈

[green kestrel]

app directory induced shark fin

I'm tempted to do a top.gg auction ad at the same time and to for epic vertical line stonks

[sharp geyser]

lol

[lament rock]

The idea was to use node native addons to get clang lib advantages in js as switching to another language would just be

Still need to learn cpp anyways

[sharp geyser]

I also will end up learning C/C++ in college

funnn

[lament rock]

I have some books I can read

[green kestrel]

best way to learn C++ is by experience, by doing

C++ books are ...drier than ghandi's flip flops

and youtubers have no clue wtf theyre talking about. the minute they type using namespace std you should nope the f out of there

[lyric mountain]

it's unknown why, but for some reason, all indians are born masters of teaching c++ on youtube

[green kestrel]

no

they think they are born masters of C++

but a lot of C++ youtube is lik someone trying to teach you js by saying 'we just use jquery for everything in 2022'

[lyric mountain]

no really, pretty much all big software had some indian participating in it, either directly or indirectly

[green kestrel]

yes, but those arent teaching on youtube, for the most part

those that know their stuff are charging for the privilege, or too busy to teach

theres someone on my discord whos obsessed with someone called cherno

we are continually getting them to unlearn the bs he's been tought

[lyric mountain]

ic

[green kestrel]

generally, if anyone tries to teach you C++ as an "Object oriented language", they are wrong

its a multi paradigm language with object oriented as one of the many ways of solving things with C++

the minute you try to solve a problem by making everything classes/objects, youre probably doing it wrong, when there are things like lambdas, templates, procedural programming, functional, as well

would be like someone giving you a toolbox of 200 tools, and you using the hammer to solve every problem to build a house

"what are you using to smooth that cement?" "back end of the hammer handle"

[sharp geyser]

That works quite well

[knotty quartz]

How do you make a slowmode

[rustic nova]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/main/class/TextChannel?scrollTo=edit on a textchannel

which you can include the slowmode setting from https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/main/typedef/GuildChannelEditOptions

[knotty quartz]

If it loads then ill have a look lol

[knotty quartz]

Oh I mean commands slowmode

[rustic nova]

oh you mean implementing a cooldown on commands?

cant help with that

[sharp geyser]

Make a Set (new Set()), on command execution see if their user id is in the set, if not continue command execution then add them and make a setTimeout that removes them after x time, if they are alert them and stop execution

const cooldown = new Set()

if(cooldown.has(someUserId)) Alert User & Return void

Do some shit and then cooldown.add(someUserId) then setTimeout cooldown.delete(someUserId)

[sharp geyser]

loser can't make simple cooldown

🤓

[knotty quartz]

Thank you so much! Ill begin adding it to the test command now 😄

[sharp geyser]

I hope you dont try and copy that exactly its pseudo code

Also keep in mind this isn't persistent across shutdowns of the bot. If someone uses a command and are put on cooldown and the bot shuts down. They wont be on cooldown anymore when it comes online

[knotty quartz]

Ok and no I'm not copy pasting.

[wheat mesa]

Misty coming in clutch with the correct data structures

But what’s the time complexity of said data structure @sharp geyser 🤓

[sharp geyser]

ur mom

Though a Set is probably relatively fast

only a nerd like you knows this answer

[cinder patio]

Isn't a Set just a Map but with no values

so the same as map

[sharp geyser]

I'd assume it'd be O(n)

[wheat mesa]

Set is based on a binary tree

[sharp geyser]

same as map

[wheat mesa]

(Most of the time, HashSets exist)

So for most operations it’s O log n

[sharp geyser]

Just give us the answer

[wheat mesa]

But if it’s a hashset it’s basically a map with no duplicate values

[sharp geyser]

I am just now learning about log in precal

so

I dont know what that means

[wheat mesa]

I think in js Set is a TreeSet

So should be O(log(n))

[wheat mesa]

Slightly slower than O(n)

[sharp geyser]

Gotcha

Also waffle why dont we ever vc anymore been so long 😔

miss that cute voice of urs

😘

[wheat mesa]

2nd best time complexity out of the most popular ones which are
O(1)
O(n)
O(log(n))
O(n log(n))
O(n^2)

😘

[lyric mountain]

a hashset is O(1) no?

[wheat mesa]

Yes

[sharp geyser]

What is the most impossible time complexity to achieve

[wheat mesa]

Anything hash based is on average O(1)

But at worst O(n)

[sharp geyser]

cmon waffle answer

[wheat mesa]

Uh

None of them?

[sharp geyser]

Cap

[wheat mesa]

There’s ways to get better time complexities, there are just pros and cons to consider

[sharp geyser]

There has to be a theoretical perfect time complexity

[wheat mesa]

O(1) means 1 operation

That’s in theory the “best”

But it also depends on what you’re trying to do

Some things are not possible to do in O(1)

Like for example, the minimum average time complexity for searching an unsorted 1d array is O(n)

If you know the array is sorted, it becomes O(log(n)) iirc

Because then you can do a binary search

[earnest phoenix]

Set in JavaScript is an ordered hashset

[wheat mesa]

Ah

Why?

Is it because it’s not like Java where you can enforce the type system to guarantee ordering via an interface like Comparable

[earnest phoenix]

Hashsets are optimized for high-performance operations on unique data which Sets in JavaScript specialize in

[wheat mesa]

Ah

I suppose the RAM isn’t a problem because you’d be using another language if you wanted packed memory efficiency

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah

[lyric mountain]

ordered...hashset?

[earnest phoenix]

Yes?

[cinder patio]

so a javascript map with undefined as value essentially

[wheat mesa]

How do you order hashes though…

[cinder patio]

order of insertion

[earnest phoenix]

^

[wheat mesa]

ah

[earnest phoenix]

You got that right, although Maps are hash tables instead of hashsets as they don't need to be optimized for unique data

[slender wagon]

how do i catch an error on a .on function

pg.on(...).catch is not a function

[wheat mesa]

you can't because it's not a promise

[slender wagon]

promise me

pg.connect().catch(err => console.log(err));

figured that out so i added it here

[lyric mountain]

.catch(console.log)

[timber tapir]

Hey!
I'm currently remaking my bot page and I'm absolutely not a web developer, and I need to insert an image instead of the description is there a way to do it?

I've already tried img src thing but it only shows alt and not the image

[rustic nova]

post what you've tried

html is supported on the description

[timber tapir]

<img src="modified">

I think the website just doesn't load the image

[rustic nova]

not a valid link, that's an album link

[timber tapir]

oh

my bad

[rustic nova]

right click the image on Imgur, then copy image url

[timber tapir]

right

it works now, I'm dumb thanks anyway!

[wheat mesa]

I need some help with console.table(), is there a not-confusing way to get a table with specified column names

Actually, can I change the (index) column's name?

nvm, got it working

[wheat mesa]

average "do physics class by hand with lots of data" fan vs average "do it with javascript my beloved" enjoyer

[sharp geyser]

Nerd

[lament rock]

My brain is melting

Output:

Test
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)

System.Object[]
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)

Code:

public override void Start()
{
    base.Start();
    SendCustomNetworkEventWithData(-1, nameof(Test), new object[3] { 5, 2, 1 });
}

public void Test()
{
    Debug.Log("Test");
    return;
    int num = (int)packet[0];
    Debug.Log(num);
}

public void SendCustomNetworkEventWithData(int target, string function, object[] data)
{
    if (!Networking.IsOwner(gameObject)) return;
    if (data.Length > maxParamSize) return;
    if (waitingForSerialization)
    {
        int index = NextUsablePacketIndexStart();
        if (index == -1) return;
        sendQueue[index] = target;
        sendQueue[index + 1] = function;
        for (int ind = 0; ind < data.Length; ind++)
        {
            sendQueue[index + ind + 2] = data[ind];
        }
    } else Dispatch(target, function, data);
}

private int NextUsablePacketIndexStart()
{
    for (int index = 0; index < maxQueueSize; index++)
    {
        if (sendQueue[index * (2 + maxParamSize + 1)] == null) return index;
    }
    Debug.Log("[NetworkableUdon] => sendQueue is apparently full. Human error detected? Please back off.");
    return -1;
}

private void Dispatch(int target, string function, object[] data)
{
    if (function.Length == 0)
    {
        Debug.Log("[NetworkableUdon] => Attempted to send a function with no name. Are you okay?");
        return;
    }
    recipient = target;
    method = function;
    Debug.Log(data);
    packet = data;
    RequestSerialization();
    waitingForSerialization = true;
}

oh wait I know what the issue is

I have a setter callback for method that runs the code, so the code runs before the packet is set

Yup. That works like a charm

[sharp geyser]

Unity?

Imagine

[fossil bronze]

hallo

[fossil bronze]

I've used that set technique I dont recommend it

[wheat mesa]

thanks for expanding on why you shouldn’t use it!

[fossil bronze]

lmao sorry

It's just complex. And you have to delete it from the set or it'll get stuck if something goes wrong
That can be done with a short async function of course

But just storing a timestamp in an object with users ID as key is simpler and no need to remove the cooldown again

[wheat mesa]

Not sure how that’s very complex… but okay

[fossil bronze]

let cooldownObj = {} 
let cooldown = 60 * 1000  

if (cooldownObj[userID]) {
    if (Date.now() < cooldownObj[userID]) return "You're on cooldown" // cooldown
    else cooldownObj[userID] = Date.now() + cooldown
} else cooldownObj[userID] = ( Date.now() + cooldown )
// do stuff

Basically this is my favorite

It's also pretty plug and play wit hthe database when you add that

[fervent moss]

I'm trying to update message with button while in select menu interaction which can be used x times when the message got updated for first time it was noramlly working but second time it says you can't have two buttons with same I'd cuz it's taking the button from first message into second one plus adding same button so how do i tackle this?
Like i mean i would have to rmeove byttn how do i?

[lament rock]

would suck if you had millions of users who off and on used your bot and the object would just always be growing in your heap

Not deleting something once you're done with it is kinda dumb

keeping the data there provides no benefit

NodeJS.Timers are free

[lament rock]

use a different ID

alternatively, if you don't supply a components property in your message update payload, then nothing is deleted/edited

TIL, properties that are undefined are not serialized in JSON payloads

[fervent moss]

NVM i solved it in my way

[compact pier]

this is C# or JS?

[cinder patio]

js

[earnest phoenix]

Who wannztrade

[fossil bronze]

Yeah I guess. You can add a delete too of course, but I don't think having millions of users is relevant here

[lyric mountain]

it is if most are stored in an array

there are ttl map libs out there, you should use it instead

[quiet tide]

Hello

[rose warren]

And so it continues... 👀 At the start of October, 6 out of 10 commands people used on my bot were slash commands. Currently, the projection for the end of October is a 66% adoption rate.

[rustic nova]

speaking of which: does anyone have any statistics between invites from app directory and invites outside app directory (direct, botlists etc)

would be interested too see

[deft rock]

Maybe they shouldnt "gambal"

[rustic nova]

true

[deft rock]

Its so stupid in my opinion

not that gambling that bots getting declined

I can see slots but why a coinflip?

[digital swan]

gambling bots getting removed from discord or just the app directory?

[lyric mountain]

just app

[deft rock]

App directory

Because God for bid we teach 13 year Olds to gamble and its the end of the world

[fossil bronze]

Oh...?`Where do they draw the line for gambling?
Like slots and betflip would obviously be gambling. But what about commands that just give randomized rewards? Like it can give a common or rare item...

Like almost all currency bots have some kind of gamble-ish feature

[lyric mountain]

when it resembles actual gambling

random rewards isn't gambling at all, just rng-based system

[fossil bronze]

Fair enough, what about "lootbox mechanics" then where you open something and get a couple random things

[lyric mountain]

lootbox is kinda...a gray zone

that's why nowadays many games resort to that

it's the closer u can get to gambling but still not call it gambling

[digital swan]

i thought lootboxes wouldve been thrown into the randomized reward type of thing

[rustic nova]

nah thats not considered gambling

something like blackjack and gamble on dankmemer is for example

[rose warren]

I'm currently collecting this data but it's only been a few days so it's not a lot to work off.

Gimme a sec

[rustic nova]

pog pog

[rose warren]

I'll give you stats from last few days

Prepare to laugh

[lyric mountain]

like, it is a randomized reward, but you're "betting" currency in hopes of getting a good prize

[rose warren]

So this is actual invites over the last 3 days (after bot has been added to the server) but do bear in mind, you can't use a different invite URL in the Discord App Directory to the one that's on your bot profile, so that Discord count is polluted by people adding the bot through the "Add to server" button on the bot profile (not 100% App Directory).

[lyric mountain]

it's really in the line between both worlds

[rose warren]

It's honestly hard to track how effective the app directory is because of the fact you can't use separate invite URLs. The visibility my bot gets from being in ~50k servers and being used by their members, who like it and add it to theirs in-turn after trying it out using the button on the profile, is mixed in with conversions from the app directory.

[spark flint]

        .addAttachmentOption(option => option.setName('proof').setDescription('Attach a proof').setRequired(true)),
         ^

TypeError: (intermediate value).setName(...).setDescription(...).addStringOption(...).addStringOption(...).addAttachmentOption is not a function```

data: new SlashCommandBuilder()
        .setName('report')
        .setDescription('Report a user!')
        .addStringOption(option => option.setName('username').setDescription('Enter a username').setRequired(true))
        .addStringOption(option => option.setName('reason').setDescription('Enter a reason').setRequired(true))
        .addAttachmentOption(option => option.setName('evidence').setDescription('Attach evidence').setRequired(true)),

using Discord.js 14.6.0

Its not letting me use addAttachmentOption

[rustic nova]

is SlashCommandBuilder even on djs 14.6

can only find ApplicationCommandManager on the docs

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/14.6.0/class/ApplicationCommandManager

[spark flint]

https://discordjs.guide/slash-commands/advanced-creation.html#adding-options

[rustic nova]

then thats probably outdated

[spark flint]

agh ok

i'll try that now

[rustic nova]

allows you to access that through either the manager above or a https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/14.6.0/class/GuildApplicationCommandManager

[charred nest]

app directory is currently giving me little to nothing because they incorrectly categorized my bot

[lyric mountain]

they categorize themselves? lmao

[charred nest]

yeah

automatically

[lyric mountain]

that's literal shit

[charred nest]

you can’t change it either

it labeled mine as moderation meanwhile my bot has NO moderation whatsoever

[rose warren]

Nice 👌 i didn't realise that

[lyric mountain]

I bet they don't even attempt to identify what a bot is really about

they just see the names and that's it

[rose warren]

Ooh buzzwords!

[charred nest]

ikr

[lyric mountain]

"so how does it detect bot's category?"
"it's machine learning"
"based on what data?"
"kubernetes"
"you know you can't simply say techy words and hope us to fall for it right?"
"master repository"

yes, it's based in that comic strip

[rose warren]

Well the app directory has been living up to the expectations I had from day one when they announced they were going to be doing it... It's pointless

I'd rather add my commands that have bad words in them back and just remove it from the directory altogether tbh

[lyric mountain]

I expected nothing, yet they managed to deliver less

[charred nest]

the directory is so ,,, i don’t even know how to describe it

the crap they’re doing w currency bots ??

ion get it

[rose warren]

Even bot.gg was better

[charred nest]

and somehow bot who shall not be named still filtered through onto their directory

[rose warren]

Is that why Tatsu isn't on it?

[charred nest]

yeah

[rose warren]

What's the issue with currency bots?

[lyric mountain]

gambling

[charred nest]

can’t have any gambling commands

like slots, coin flip, etc

[rose warren]

Ah yeah I knew that

I didn't know Tatsu had that

[charred nest]

it’s like

anything with any sort of “fail and chance” i think

[rose warren]

Yeah where you bet currency beforehand

[lyric mountain]

I knew it'd end up like that, I knew it'd be dumpster fire the moment they announced an "official" bot list

[charred nest]

this is how they auto categorize

nothing in any of my details says Moderation

[rose warren]

[quartz kindle]

mine was categorized as "social"

not wrong tbh

[lyric mountain]

lmao

[charred nest]

mines social but is under “moderation”

it can’t do ANYTHING to moderate. if someone adds it to moderate they’re screwed LOL

[lyric mountain]

mine would probably fall into moderation

it's a trading card game bot

[boreal iron]

I wonder what my very specific one would fall under

Probably gaming I guess

[quartz kindle]

also for some reason the first day i added it it showed 15k guilds

when i had 9k

but then a few days later it fixed itself

[charred nest]

mine says 13k but last i checked it was 11l

[quartz kindle]

now it shows 9.9k

[rose warren]

Yeah some of the counts were off

[charred nest]

11k*

[boreal iron]

6k unavailable:P

[charred nest]

i’ll have to double check my bot stats tbh

[rose warren]

Mine seem accurate but we'll see later in the week I guess

[lyric mountain]

ah yes, le olde youtube tactics

inflate the number of viewers to make some channels look popular

[quartz kindle]

lel

[lyric mountain]

iirc twitch tried to do that too but people noticed

[rose warren]

You can get banned from Top.gg for posting incorrect server count

[quartz kindle]

i'll have to trust their numbers anyway as i dont monitor my guild count anymore

[charred nest]

wtf counts as addictive

[lyric mountain]

at the end of the day, topgg will end up being the official botlist as always

[charred nest]

^

[quartz kindle]

will i be banned for posting incorrect server count if i stop updating it?

:^)

[charred nest]

i rely on topgg for discovery and voting

[rose warren]

Aren't all gaming bots addictive even if there's no gambling involved? I have servers who run hunger games day and night and are at over 25k rounds. That sounds pretty addictive to me...

[charred nest]

thats what i mean

[quartz kindle]

you know who does that? facebook ads

they say your ad had 500+ clicks, you check analytics and its like 100 page views

[lyric mountain]

lmao

[rose warren]

Voting is OP

[charred nest]

frfr

that brazil meme but instead its TOPGG NUMERO UNOOOOO

[quartz kindle]

never cared about voting lel i dont even know how many votes i have

probably like < 10

[charred nest]

im implementing vote rewards (finally)

[rose warren]

Voting has brought me so many servers. Probably like 90% of them tbh

Because of the seo boost on Top.gg

[quartz kindle]

voting rewards is like the dumbest thing ever from a UX perspectivr

[charred nest]

the new bots listing shot my bot to 250 and verification needed in the first 6 hours c':

[quartz kindle]

and people still fall for it

[rose warren]

People will do anything for coins

[charred nest]

dem virtual coins

[quartz kindle]

lmfao

[charred nest]

ppl will fistfight you for them deadass

[rose warren]

My coins can't even be used or traded. I don't even have a shop

[charred nest]

esp if its a currency bot

[rose warren]

People just collect them

[charred nest]

ppl go mad for them

or spend mad money

[quartz kindle]

in terms of growth, this year was the worst year for my bot

[rose warren]

I don't let people buy coins... Yet when I do my economy features I'll probably sell coin packs if people want them

[quartz kindle]

like a whole year went by

and im still at 9k

[charred nest]

i havent paid attention to growth lately tbh

uni eating my time and energy

[rose warren]

YOU 👏 NEED 👏 VOTING!!! 👏

[quartz kindle]

burnout eating mine

i cant even concentrate on coding anymore

[rose warren]

Top.gg is taking my time

I haven't touched my code since February

[quartz kindle]

its like i get adhd when i try to code

[charred nest]

ive been thinkign of applying for bot reviewer since i resigned but

shrug

i love what im coding rn tbh

i couldnt touch it for months but im making a swag feature

[rose warren]

I miss taking the time tbh

It felt so good when I did my rewrite

[charred nest]

i wanted to cry when i was doing my rewrite