development

[cursive musk]

Error:
TypeError: message.client.botCommands.array is not a function

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? thanks

Should it be .values instead of .filter?

??

[earnest phoenix]

Assuming that your custom botCommands property is a collection, the array() method was removed a while ago, so you should use the values() method which returns an iterator, and use the Array.from() method on it to convert the iterator into an array

Array.from(message.client.botCommands.values())

[cursive musk]

Ah, i see. Thanks so much!!

[eternal osprey]

Does anyone know why my filter isn’t working? Like it totally makes my collector stuck. I am pretty sure that the member id is the user in the database as well. It just does nothing

[neon leaf]

Whats the best way to make UIs Like this and actually Code them? For the First id say Figma but the second one idk, Im tired of pure HTML + CSS

[dry imp]

whats figma

[earnest phoenix]

interface design app

[earnest phoenix]

Personally I use Figma to design and then some CSS framework to make the implementation of it e.g. Chakra

[neon leaf]

Thanks, I'll Look into it, do you know any Templates that Look similar to my Screenshot?

[earnest phoenix]

Not by head but you can probably find one if you search for an admin dashboard template

[neon leaf]

omg, I never used react / any framework and now im hooked, its so easy to do anything

[earnest phoenix]

[neon leaf]

Finally I dont have to touch css files 🤩

[earnest phoenix]

You eventually will have to at some point

Not everything will be as you wish

So you'll probably need to edit things from time to time with custom styling

[neon leaf]

well yeah, I dont have to write 200lines of css to optimize it for mobiles atleast ( I hope)

[hasty mulch]

laughs in Python

[earnest phoenix]

?

Is there some kind of joke I missed?

[hasty mulch]

No

Nvm

[neon leaf]

what

they are the exact same file but renamed

yes, the login file has the function renamed to login

[neon leaf]

nvm, It has to be Login, not login

[tacit crest]

@whole knot

[neon leaf]

why is this Button not executing the dologin function?

[spark flint]

try just js onClick={doLogin()}

[neon leaf]

nope

for some reason that executed the function on page load

[radiant kraken]

i'm sure that just calls the function whenever the component renders

[spark flint]

Ah

[cinder patio]

it's disabled

the button is disabled

[neon leaf]

thats intentional

its enabled through js

and I can indeed see it changing color when clicking

[cinder patio]

how is it enabled through JS?

On the screenshot disabled will always be true unless Button passes something else to the actual button componnent

If you're 100% sure then the only other thing that comes to mind is that some other parent / child listener is stopping the event from propagating

[neon leaf]

document.getElementById('LoginButton').disabled = false

[cinder patio]

that's your problem

you almost never interact with the document API directly in react

The Button component thinks it's still disabled because react uses a virtual DOM

you have to save the value of disabled in a state and update it when you have to:

const [isDisabled, setDisabled] = useState(true);

return <DarkMode>
    <Button disbled={isDisabled} ...>
    ...

[neon leaf]

omg, thank you so much

Ive been trying for 3 hours lol

while you are here, do you know what causes this? the Navbar has the exact same Code (using chakra btw)

[cinder patio]

I've only used chakra like once so I can't really say without more code

[lyric mountain]

you've probably hardcoded the color

[neon leaf]

Login: https://paste.rjansen.de/8pwuX7BthF
Navbar: https://paste.rjansen.de/tJvq7OB5tE

[lyric mountain]

with theme libs you 99% of the time use theme colors instead of raw colors

[neon leaf]

I now dont know why the navbar even works

[neon leaf]

ok, got it working by putting it all in a different component

[pearl mantle]

@livid crow

[wooden ember]

ok so i know this isnt really bot realated but its still web related, kinda. so i have two raspberry pis or something right, I need one to send a message to another and the other way around too. i dont need any data to be sent other than a ping or something. the senario is that one receives a voltage on a pin and i need to send a "true" condition over the internet to another pi to put voltage on the pin on the other side. i got all that stuff done but idk how to send a message from one pi to another over the net. this wont be over a lan but over the internet. any simple suggestions? want to make this as low tech as possible to eventually just use a microcontroller like an esp32 rather than a pi.

idk how internet stuff works other than how to host a website tbh

so idk the protocolsl or anything so this might fall under the catagory of IOT

[rustic nova]

you could do it through sockets or a simple webserver running on express or in python, flask

and then just hook them up to your wifi and allow communication for these

[lament rock]

So, I'm trying to have a check box that toggles the background color and the solution I found was to set a class to a checkbox and with a :checked specifier, select a nearby element and change its properties, but what if I don't want to select a nearby element and want to change the body itself?

Here's what I have currently:

<body>
    <nav id="topnav">
        <a class="active navitem" href="/">Home</a>
        <a class="navitem" href="/about">About</a>
        <a class="navitem" href="/dash">Dash</a>
        <input type="checkbox" class="toggle">
    </nav>
    <div class="landing">
        <img class="landing-image" alt="Amanda, a red-haired cat girl with headphones and a white shirt smiling at the viewer" src="/images/amanda-mummy.webp" />
...

.toggle:checked + body {
    background: var(--inverted-main-gradient);
}

Is there even a way to select the body?

[sharp geyser]

You could use js to change the background when the checkbox is checked

[lament rock]

I don't want to use JS

[quartz kindle]

pure css tricks like that only work on children, there is no way to select parent elements

[lament rock]

So, I have to create a div above the nav bar and place the checkbox before that and somehow move the checkbox so that it's not awkwardly before the nav bar?

[quartz kindle]

yeah

you can use absolute positioning to move the checkbox outside

[sharp geyser]

This sounds like a hassle

[lyric mountain]

there's no shame in using js tho, if that makes maintenance easier

[quartz kindle]

have you seen those css-only tabbed menus? they use similar tricks

[lyric mountain]

web is html/css/js after all

[lament rock]

I get this ugly mess because the body bg is no longer specified and is based on a container div

[lament rock]

people block js

[quartz kindle]

you can make fully functioning tabs with css only using invisible radio buttons

[sharp geyser]

Then that sucks for those people

:^)

[lyric mountain]

tbh, it'll also make 60% of the internet not work

[spark flint]

Literally like 90% of modern sites use JS

It’s their fault if they don’t allow js

[lyric mountain]

unless ur using tor, I see no reason in blocking js

[lament rock]

trackers/ads

[lyric mountain]

the browser itself tracks u

[lament rock]

sucks

[lyric mountain]

and ads are 99% of the time blocked with a dedicate extension, not by disabling js entirely

[sharp geyser]

Anyone who blocks js and expects shit to function properly is just out of luck

[lyric mountain]

it's like removing someone's lungs and asking to run the tour de france

[sudden geyser]

should've told me sooner

[quartz kindle]

https://codepen.io/MPDoctor/pen/mpJdYe

[lament rock]

I figured out my issue

I set the position of the checkbox to absolute and it removed it. Then, I could just create a label for that checkbox

[lament rock]

I'd like some opinions on it https://amanda.moe/

[wooden ember]

ah ok I'll look into it

[eternal osprey]

const filter1 = i =>  i.member.id === gamedatabase[key].user1
            const collector = r.createMessageComponentCollector(filter1,{
              componentType: "BUTTON",
              time: 10000,
              max: 5,
            });

            collector.on("collect", (i) => {
            
          console.log(i)```could anyone please tell me why when i add the filter the collector like doesn't work at all

even if the right user clicks on it>

It just freezes the collector

[earnest phoenix]

Because you're supposed to pass the filter as an option to the object

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/main/class/Message?scrollTo=createMessageComponentCollector

[eternal osprey]

voltrex i could marry

[earnest phoenix]

Oh damn girl

[eternal osprey]

[solemn latch]

indeed

[fiery tangle]

anyone here know regex?

[spark flint]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[earnest phoenix]

It won't work if the client doesn't have sufficient permissions to change a member's nickname, or if the member is the server owner

[earnest phoenix]

Hey guys long time no coming here

maybe too long

[drifting cairn]

[earnest phoenix]

So as of now I need help making a thing and it's to send a start message when my bot is added to a server

any ideas?

example bots can be many

nvm

it was guildCreate

[sharp geyser]

One I don't recommend as it can be annoying, two if you really want to, just look for the first chattable channel and send it there on join

[lament rock]

every guild starts off with a text channel that has the same ID as the guild which is the general chat. If that channel exists, there are good chances it's still general

[sharp geyser]

me who deletes that channel and makes a new general channel

[lament rock]

[earnest phoenix]

Hi

[mild fjord]

hi?

[flat copper]

app.use(express.static(__dirname + '/public')); 

in main.js

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css/style.css">

in html

but its still not loading css

[true yew]

.catch()

.catch(() => {
  //failed
})```

[radiant kraken]

why not just use await

and use a try catch

.then().catch() can get really messy

you probably forgot to await something

then you probably forgot to handle it in a try catch block

[radiant kraken]

how do i make a website i don't want to use HTML

[radiant kraken]

blocking js to avoid trackers/ads is like removing your body to avoid diseases

[earnest phoenix]

Python

[lyric mountain]

that's cruel

[wheat mesa]

Just use js but all the html is in a raw string that gets inserted when the page loads 🧌

[radiant kraken]

but you would still need a <script> tag

[neon leaf]

will this wait for the data to be fetched in react?
fetch('some_url', { method: 'GET' }).then(res = res.json())

[lyric mountain]

no

unless you explicitly add await

[neon leaf]

maybe context matters, I wanna display info about a user in a component, currently using xhr the data only shows after you refresh the components, not page

[neon leaf]

is there any other way? for some reason I cant make components async because then its just a pending promise

[earnest phoenix]

node:internal/fs/utils:348
    throw err;
    ^

Error: ENOTDIR: not a directory, scandir './slash_commands/iogames.js/'
    at readdirSync (node:fs:1446:3)
    at /home/dragontahmid1/Descargas/New-discord-bot/handler/slash_command.js:9:30
    at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
    at module.exports (/home/dragontahmid1/Descargas/New-discord-bot/handler/slash_command.js:8:41)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/home/dragontahmid1/Descargas/New-discord-bot/index.js:11:98)
    at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1149:14)
    at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1203:10)
    at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1027:32)
    at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:868:12)
    at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12) {
  errno: -20,
  syscall: 'scandir',
  code: 'ENOTDIR',
  path: './slash_commands/iogames.js/'
}

Node.js v18.10.0
``` hmmmmm

probably this is doing it ```js
client.guilds.commands.set.foreach( async => {
[...client.slash_commands].map(x => x[1].data)
}).catch(err => {
console.log(err)
})

[sudden geyser]

you'd need to show us slash_command.js

[earnest phoenix]

const { readdirSync } = require("fs"),
ascii = require("ascii-table");

let table = new ascii("Commands");
table.setHeading("Slash Commands", "Load status");

module.exports = (client) => {
        readdirSync("./slash_commands").forEach(dir => {
            const commands = readdirSync(`./slash_commands/${dir}/`).filter(file => file.endsWith(".js"));
    
            for (let file of commands) {
                let pull = require(`../slash_commands/${dir}/${file}`);

                client.slash_commands.set(pull.data.name, pull);
                table.addRow(file, '✅');
            
                if (pull.aliases && Array.isArray(pull.aliases)) pull.aliases.forEach(alias => client.aliases.set(alias, pull.name));
            }
        });
        // Log the table
        console.log(table.toString());
}

slash_command.js

[sudden geyser]

so you have a regular .js file in there and a dir

see here

your first readdirSync returns iogames.js and miscellaneous in an array

[earnest phoenix]

yes

[sudden geyser]

then you try to read each as a directory

[earnest phoenix]

ah

[sudden geyser]

but iogames.js is not a directory

so it fails

[earnest phoenix]

yeah

my eye sight problems

gotta get glasses soon

[sudden geyser]

try zooming in

[earnest phoenix]

k

[sudden geyser]

Anyway, you'll want to read the directory and filter out non-directories. Some links on how to do it:

• https://stackoverflow.com/a/24594123/14695788
• https://nodejs.org/api/fs.html#fsreaddirsyncpath-options

An example with the code below.

readdirSync("./slash_commands/", { withFileTypes: true })
  .filter((d) => d.isDirectory())
  .map((d) => d.name)
  .forEach((dir) => {
    readdirSync(`./slash_commands/${dir}/`).forEach((file) => {
      // Now you have a `dir` and `file`, load it.
    })
  });

[earnest phoenix]

ty

I'll do that

[wooden ember]

bruh i thought js on websites was just for dynamic stuff like video players and web apps and stuff

why else would js be used other than complicated stuff you cand to with html and css

i mean thers dynamic elements and stuff i guess

but then i hate those cuz all it does is make the page take ages to load

unless its worth it

[astral path]

what's the thing that luca has a command for that lets you monitor your bot?

nvm, it's pm2

i think

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest phoenix]

Yup!

[quartz kindle]

ajax, contact forms, sliders/galleries, singlepage app, and a gazillion other things lel

it doesnt really make it slow to load, unless youre doing shit stuff

[lyric mountain]

most of the "but it can be done with html/css" sacrifice most of the maintainability of the project

since they use edge cases or stuff that are so intricate that you simply cannot maintain it after a few weeks

nowadays it doesn't matter much if you dont use the most optimized path, internet is no longer limited to a couple kbps

also as tim pointed, js impact on loading times is minimal

[wooden ember]

bruh tell that to hald the bot websites that i look at like dank memers page

takes ages to load

[lyric mountain]

because it's not js

[wooden ember]

its not?

theres always 101 things moving and doing shit though

[lyric mountain]

they're limited by discord ratelimit

[wooden ember]

whats that got to do with the website

[lyric mountain]

you need to use discord to login to the site

[wooden ember]

oh that

i mean thats slow too but about the same as the rest of the page

[earnest phoenix]

hey guys we were making top.gg vote logs using dblapi.js and there is no error and I am running it on repl and for some reason there are no logs and no errors

[lyric mountain]

don't blame the whole language for an infinitesimally small edge case

you can bet all your money that it's not js that's making the page slow

and you can even check that, just press F12 and see performance tab

you'll see what's truly taking ages

[lyric mountain]

use topgg sdk

dblapi is deprecated

[wooden ember]

all i know is that alot of web pages with fancy shit take an age to load

[lyric mountain]

blame the devs, not the language

[wooden ember]

never looked into it just assumed thats what it was

[wooden ember]

i mean yes but then the devs just go on about "maintainability"

yeah thats cool but if it negitivly impact user experience than thats not good

[lyric mountain]

https://cherupil.com/ an example of stuff js can do (sayuri found this site)

if it was js' fault, the page wouldn't even load

[wooden ember]

ok thats pretty cool and onyl took like 4 seconds to load

not saying its js' fault im just daying its over used

something thats over used is bootstrap, had to use that to make a website in collage and its the most pointless thing ive ever seen

[lyric mountain]

nah, it's underused (as in, the original html trio)

[sharp geyser]

Hi haku

[lyric mountain]

most devs use frameworks or site builders that add much boilerplate to the site

if it was to be done through raw html, the same page could be much faster

[lyric mountain]

hi misty

[wooden ember]

yeah but the issue then is you gotta load a bunch of stuff in the frame work that you never use but still takes up load time

[lyric mountain]

that's assets, not js

[sharp geyser]

One thing to also think about with page loads is images & any imported css

the site has to download that every time

[wooden ember]

i hate that too

[sharp geyser]

Also resizing massive images with css to a smaller size is never a good idea as it has to happen on every page load

[wooden ember]

this

[sharp geyser]

Another thing I learned is about retina displays

basically twice as many pixels can appear in the same grid making the image cripser on apple tech

so a 600px image can be downsized to a 300px image and still look crisp on a apple phone and also look better on non apple phones

[lyric mountain]

assets and styles are always what takes most of the loading time

[sharp geyser]

Yea

[lyric mountain]

there's a reason why most TOR sites don't use css at all

[sharp geyser]

Also just people doing wacky css

[solemn latch]

Who needs css? 👀

[sharp geyser]

a lot of css stuff if done wrong can make load times longer

I've learned some useful information in this linkedin course on css essentials

[sharp geyser]

Anyone whos not in the 2000s and wants to make a good impression on people to compensate for how lonely they are in life

[wheat mesa]

Are we considering 2000s old now :c

[sharp geyser]

yes waffle

[lyric mountain]

then there's http://endless.horse/

[sharp geyser]

its been nearly 23 years

2000 is almost a millennial

Im also sure that auto correct used the wrong word but idk Im too tired to care

[wheat mesa]

Imagine being tired

I have comp sci class next period

[sharp geyser]

I dont like how uneven this is

[wheat mesa]

We have to write linked list shit

[sharp geyser]

Imagne being in school

[wheat mesa]

I cannot figure out why my linked list add method is not adding in the correct order

It’s based on the compareTo method but it’s still wrong for some reason

[sharp geyser]

I was supposed to but my dad told me while I was half asleep that I have a doctors appointment then falls asleep himself and when I wake up he blames me I didn't keep him awake

[wheat mesa]

@lyric mountain you know Java very well, how do you make a linked list add in a specific order based on the stored object’s compareTo method

[lyric mountain]

aside from using LinkedList<>?

[wheat mesa]

Making our own

[lyric mountain]

u could use a map-backed list

or the map itself

[wheat mesa]

We had this

It has to be a linked list

[lyric mountain]

like, have all keys be indexes

[wheat mesa]

It’s a class that stores a LinkedList

As an instance variable

[lyric mountain]

yes, still using a map behind the scenes would be a good option

[wheat mesa]

Not allowed to change the instance variables unfortunately, it has to be a raw linked list

[lyric mountain]

what is being used to hold the instances?

an array?

[wheat mesa]

We have a class that holds an instance variable of type ProductNode, which is a linked list

[lyric mountain]

...

[wheat mesa]

It’s very basic, ProductNode has an instance variable called data which stores the Product, and then a reference to the next node called front

[lyric mountain]

ok so...you're making a linked list...that uses a linked list?

[wheat mesa]

No no

We’re making a class that wraps around a linked list

Sorry I should’ve been more specific

[lyric mountain]

that...is what "using a linked list" means

I might be understanding wrong tho

[wheat mesa]

The class I’m writing code in has an instance variable that is a linked list, so I guess you could say that

[lyric mountain]

cant u just call the linked list methods?

[earnest phoenix]

bruh someone in this server literally copied it??

[lyric mountain]

?

[earnest phoenix]

See a website on the about me of someone that is exactly that

[wheat mesa]

Linked list only has setData, getData, setNext, and setFront

[earnest phoenix]

Just other domain etc.

[lyric mountain]

lmao

[wheat mesa]

It’s our own linked list, not from the Java stdlib

[lyric mountain]

ok, so THAT linked list is what ur trying to make?

[wheat mesa]

I’m trying to make a class that stores that linked list as an instance variable

And then we’re making methods that wrap around it

[earnest phoenix]

https://exjs.gg/

[lyric mountain]

class MyList<T> extends TheOtherList<T> {

[wheat mesa]

Sorry for the pictures

That’s basically what it is

[lyric mountain]

bro lmao that's a fuckin sue case

what a shameless ripoff

they even blocked F12 (and right click)

[earnest phoenix]

ikr

[lyric mountain]

lemme see the source code (press F12 in another page, go to the site)

[earnest phoenix]

Sending email to the original owner to make them aware

[wheat mesa]

My main problem is that my add method doesn’t add the element in the correct order, since it’s supposed to add based on the compareTo ordering

[lyric mountain]

BRO

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah here it definitely didn't began with creativity

[lyric mountain]

they didn't even bother to remove cherupil photos

[earnest phoenix]

[lyric mountain]

ok so back to waffle

[earnest phoenix]

Sorry Waffle for killing your conversation

[lyric mountain]

btw, the logo is CC (Christopher Cherupil - second C is flipped)

[lyric mountain]

how are u implementing compareTo?

also, what is ur Node class?

[wheat mesa]

My idea was as follows:
Loop through the linked list while the next element is not null
Compare the data at the current element to the one being added via its compareTo method
If the result is less than or equal to 0, then it will be added after the current element (current.compareTo(oneBeingAdded) <= 0)
If they don’t belong in front of the current element, continue looping
Otherwise add it to the end of the list

The Node class and Product class are written 100% correctly, they were provided to us in the assignment

The compareTo method just compares the names of the products with their respective compareTo methods as well

[lyric mountain]

so it's a sortedlist, not a linked list

linked list preserves insertion order

[wheat mesa]

Not really, the add method is just based on sorting order

The other methods however do not preserve sorting

[lyric mountain]

I'm struggling to understand the whole thing tbh

[wheat mesa]

The first add method

[lyric mountain]

ok so you're the one writing ProductList I suppose

[wheat mesa]

Oh maybe I need to be checking if the element belongs BEFORE the current element or not

[wheat mesa]

Yes

[lyric mountain]

what is being used to store the values inside ProductList?

an array, a list, what

[wheat mesa]

ProductNode

[lyric mountain]

ProductNode is a collection?

[wheat mesa]

No, it’s our basic implementation of a linked list

[lyric mountain]

sigh

[wheat mesa]

I gtg, I’ll try to fix it during my comp sci class

[lyric mountain]

just as an addendum, use .iterator() instead of a while loop, or if possible, .stream()

[wheat mesa]

Not possible, it’s not a collection

[lyric mountain]

that is a mess by itself

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I agree

But it is what it is

[lyric mountain]

now I understand why most people come out of college hating java

[sharp geyser]

Funny thing is thats a highschool comp sci

he hasn't even hit college yet

[lyric mountain]

like, it's a damn biased method of teaching, no wonder why they see python and say "oh wow, this is much easier than java"

[sharp geyser]

kek

[lyric mountain]

@earnest phoenix btw I just checked, they even got as far as registering the site in dmca

tho they didn't verify the account

[fervent moss]

Skill issues

[earnest phoenix]

Will email the owner

[lyric mountain]

good idea

[earnest phoenix]

[cinder patio]

hmm

[quartz kindle]

@lyric mountain@earnest phoenix

[earnest phoenix]

Yes very spooky plastic gun

[lyric mountain]

ye, we saw it lul

and obviously "coding can be boring af", when u don't code at all

[earnest phoenix]

I wonder how I got dmca striked, but ended up winning the case 🤯

Would be interested how a DCMA takedown from an Apple Senior Engineer would feel like for his parents

[boreal iron]

looks like a typical American

[quartz kindle]

his response:

blyat cyka jobany urod

[quartz kindle]

nah his face is definitely russian

[boreal iron]

So… evil you mean?

[earnest phoenix]

The difference is that an American would know how to hold that gun correctly

[boreal iron]

[quartz kindle]

more dumb, less evil

[boreal iron]

[quartz kindle]

i consider americans more evil xd

[boreal iron]

more dumb […]
Brings us back to Americans

[quartz kindle]

i mean, yes, americans are dumb af

but russians are more often than not even dumber

because they are fueled by vodka

:^)

[boreal iron]

[quartz kindle]

fake taki dumbo

[boreal iron]

i like cliches

Fake ain’t dumbo

[earnest phoenix]

dumbo ooga booga

[boreal iron]

There’s something big, but not my ears tho

[quartz kindle]

oh my :^)

[earnest phoenix]

That's what she said I suppose

[earnest phoenix]

He's

Azerbaijan or something like that

According to previous messages

[sharp geyser]

https://github.com/Mistyerious/TrickOrTreat I made this in like 15m so far how does it look? (Have yet to implement rate limiting on the gateway, reconnects, invalid sessions and such)

[rustic nova]

no rust

big sad

dont you dare say something about my rpc

[sharp geyser]

I am doing this for Halloween

[rustic nova]

pog

[sharp geyser]

I do have plans on making this something serious if it goes well though

So if I do I might make it in rust

[sharp geyser]

17 problems wow

[rustic nova]

nah just code quality things

[sharp geyser]

Still 17 problems

[earnest phoenix]

17 problems found

[sharp geyser]

And never fixed

[rustic nova]

banned both rn

[sharp geyser]

Do it

[rustic nova]

here java jumpscare

[earnest phoenix]

type casting

[lyric mountain]

var lst = (ConnectionListener) listener;

switch (event) {
  case AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent e -> lst.onConnect(e);
  case PlayerQuitEvent e -> lst.onDisconnect(e);
  case PlayerJoinEvent e -> lst.onJoin(e);
}

soon

[rustic nova]

unless your application has to work on lower versions of java

[lyric mountain]

rip then

[rustic nova]

look KuuHaKu, I have to go through the pain and agony to keep legacy support

im not djs on v500

[lyric mountain]

how...how far is your legacy support, may I ask?

[wheat mesa]

27 years

[rustic nova]

to note, am not the maintainer of that plugin but

spigot plugin
which has support for minecraft 1.7.10

[lyric mountain]

jdk 8 then, oh the pain

[rustic nova]

must admit though

stupid me has mostly been working on jdk 8

never bothered to upgrade apart from the obvious one when log4j came

[lyric mountain]

there's so much improvement to the language as a whole, it's awful when I need to go back to older LTS versions

[lament rock]

How does this look for a dark mode?

light mode for context

[lyric mountain]

the navbar is too dark in the second image

oh wait, that's the browser itself

[craggy pine]

Agreed.

[lyric mountain]

hi miyu

[lament rock]

That is the browser

The actual site navbar is unaffected

[lyric mountain]

there's this one too

[craggy pine]

Only thing I'm like kind of not a fan of and It may just be a me thing is the emojis being used and how they're a nice blue and an ugly grey

[lament rock]

The grey ones are disabled

[craggy pine]

ah ok

Then yeah overall good color scheme

[lament rock]

Over all, supposed to be easy on the eyes and the dark mode is really just an easier on the eyes and also mostly and experiment

[lyric mountain]

a thing that I'd suggest, is making the fonts here slightly bolder

like, not enough to be called "bold", but slightly thicker

[craggy pine]

Thiccer

[lament rock]

Maybe

[lyric mountain]

or bigger

idk, maybe it's my eye but it's a bit straining to read that

[lament rock]

It's much easier to read on the site itself rather than the image

[lyric mountain]

perhaps it's also because I'm seeing a downscaled version of the whole site

[lyric mountain]

^

[craggy pine]

Idk if you plan on adding more to the page itself, but if you are would making the actual music player which I assume is the top left one, span across the bottom be a better choice to give you more page space for other stuff.

[lament rock]

If there were more tracks queued, that's where they'd be

I can queue up some more

[craggy pine]

ah ok

[lyric mountain]

also...did you try comic sans to see how it fells in that site?

[craggy pine]

comic sans

[lyric mountain]

it gives me some comic vibes from the thicc outlines

might pair nice with comic sans

[craggy pine]

Oh i see so you list the queue below the player

is 0:00 a bug?

[lament rock]

No. Just that it's a live stream

[lyric mountain]

make the duration bigger

75% the size of the box

[lament rock]

Also, the font is Discord's Whitney

[craggy pine]

Are you able to determine what a live stream is by the API? If so

maybe change 0:00 to "Live video"

or something

[lyric mountain]

if it returns 0 length it's safe to assume it's a live

[lament rock]

Technically

{"op":4,"d":{"track":{"class":"RequiresSearchTrack","id":"RK8e4JQgPfo","title":"Pixel Galaxy","length":236,"thumbnail":{"src":"","width":0,"height":0},"live":false,"uri":"https://youtube.com/watch?v=RK8e4JQgPfo","source":"youtube","author":"Snail's House"},"position":2}}

or just really short

[craggy pine]

"live":false,

i see

[lament rock]

LavaLink gives good info most of the time

One thing I am super not happy with is this

idk what to do here tbh

[lyric mountain]

Put your logo

[wheat mesa]

Rounded edges

More subtle of a gradient than that (it’s difficult to achieve proper contrast with a gradient between colors that drastic)

Also might want to use bigger font for the Welcome Back section, and remove the border around the entire thing, and instead go with a bigger font and bolded letters

[lament rock]

There's a stop in between the colors for that reason, but I personally like it

[rustic nova]

depends on bot theme/design really yeah

[sharp geyser]

So I just made a big fuckery of my codebase

Tried implementing a system similar to how djs handles dispatch events from the gateway so I can easily process them without the need of doing so for every single event when I am connecting my shard

https://github.com/Mistyerious/TrickOrTreat Mainly speaking of the #handlePacket in the Shard.ts, Actions & Handlers stuff

[rustic nova]

on which major did you finish? v500?

[sharp geyser]

huh

[boreal iron]

d_m_js soon

Ok

Fuck you markdown

You and auto correct should burn in hell

[sharp geyser]

Wtf

[boreal iron]

Idk

I don’t like discord and obviously it doesn’t like me, too

[cursive musk]

TypeError: member.sendCustom is not a function
    at /home/container/src/dashboard/dashboard.js:621:10
    at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)
    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5) Promise {
  <rejected> TypeError: member.sendCustom is not a function
      at /home/container/src/dashboard/dashboard.js:621:10
      at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)
      at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
}

.sendCustom({
          embeds: [
            new MessageEmbed()
              .setColor("GREEN")
              .setFooter({ text: `Powered by https://universebot.xyz` })
              .setTitle(`Application #${ticketID}`)
              .setDescription(
                `Hey ${
                  member.user.username
                }! Your form was Submitted and ready to be judged.\n\n**Form ID**: \`${ticketID}\`\n**Time:** ${moment(
                  new Date()
                ).format("dddd, MMMM Do YYYY HH:mm:ss")}`
              ),
          ],
        })
        .catch(() => {});

What am I doing wrong??

[wheat mesa]

.sendCustom doesn't exist on whatever you're trying to use it on

[cursive musk]

Lmao you helped me actually, thanks!

I don't know what was I thinking

My bad

[raw nest]

General question. How does NextAuth's (https://next-auth.js.org) Credentials (Username / Password) work exactly? Like is it some soft of OAuth2?
Or in general, how would I make a Username / password authentication in my app between frontend and backend? I thought about just authenticating, generating token, storing in localstorage and just give it an expiration timestamp

[radiant kraken]

L

[sharp geyser]

So it looks like it is similar to what passport does

It supports a variety of methods of authentication

Email / Password or Oauth2 of some sort whether that be through Auth0, Google, Twitter, etc

And it gives out a JWT once it successfully auths by the looks of it

JWTs are cool cause it leaves little validation for you

You can also have your own way of storing the "session" though

[raw nest]

Ye ik JWT are cool in general but a downside is that you can't expire them, like make them unavailable..

[sharp geyser]

Huh

[raw nest]

As far as I know

but still, that doesn't matter too much for the system itself right? xD

[lament rock]

???

Bro?

[sharp geyser]

Why would you want to expire a JWT

I don't think thats the point

[raw nest]

Maybe if the user logs out I don't want all the date to be somewhere around

[sharp geyser]

Thats when you'd delete the JWT

[harsh nova]

As an admin of the site you might delete the user or update their permissions

I store my jwt as well because I’m dumb and don’t fully understand it

[sharp geyser]

With JWTs I dont think you really need to store them yourself

[earnest phoenix]

That's the point of JWTs, stateless. There's no use in storing them on the server

Otherwise you're kind of just reinventing sessions

So no point on using JWTs

[sharp geyser]

JWTs are fine for something that only needs minimal security

personally I'd use oauth

Helps prevent attackers as the actual credentials are on the server and nothing gets sent to the client other than a token which they can't get unless you give it to em

Which at that point is your fault

[earnest phoenix]

I mean, that's mostly used/made for third parties but yeah you can use it

[sharp geyser]

Discord uses oauth for their logging in

Thats why each user is assigned a token on login

They made their own oauth server iirc though

so they don't use smth like Auth0 as a thrid party

[earnest phoenix]

Oh they use that as standard when logging in?

Thought was normal login

[sharp geyser]

As far as I know yes

[earnest phoenix]

To their login endpoint

Interesting

[sharp geyser]

They send the login creds to the server and it responds back with a token iirc

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah I mean that doesn't necessarily mean oauth2

I also do the same, just send a token back

[sharp geyser]

I don't know where it was but I read something about it

[earnest phoenix]

I though oauth2 was just used for applications

So that they can get data from discord

That's the purpose of oauth2

[sharp geyser]

I might of misread it

It was one of my late night reads

[earnest phoenix]

I mean they can use it, it just doesn't really make sense

Point of oauth2 is to allow a website or application to access resources from other web apps on behalf of a user

[sharp geyser]

Mhm

[fervent moss]

Does someone know how to get started with discord outh2 in website , i have some references but they are in php and i want in html css

[earnest phoenix]

You'll need something else than HTML/CSS only, and HTML/CSS will be used either way

[rustic nova]

yeah you cant make oauth in pure html/css, oauth is not something visibly done

[boreal iron]

lol

[rustic nova]

it is a process that allows your application to receive access to scopes on a account

or am I wrong @boreal iron

[pine nova]

ah yes oauth in html and css

[rustic nova]

I mean you could technically do it with js but why

[pine nova]

[rustic nova]

js in the sense of implementing javascript on your website

[boreal iron]

Nah that lol has been dropped regarding that question

[rustic nova]

I wanna do discord bot in css

[boreal iron]

Maybe in css4

Who knows

[pine nova]

nah in brainf*ck

[fervent moss]

Was there some discussion here

[earnest phoenix]

Can anyone say how to get emojiid without nitro

[rustic nova]

doubt that's possible if you can't send the emoji

!supriseeyes

yeah you'd need nitro for it, have the bot go through all emojis of your guild and use the one you'd need

[slim heart]

right click it and hit copy link (or somehow get a hold of the image) and the link has the ID in it

[dry imp]

or use / or \ before the emoji i forgot

[rustic nova]

"without nitro" since you cant send emojis without nitro

[dry imp]

i mean if he is on the server he still can do that

[rustic nova]

oh lol forgot you can use emojis on your own server

[opaque marten]

!ExcusemeWtf

[fervent moss]

What about animated once

[hidden gorge]

can someone help me with my cloudflare?

[dry imp]

oh yea, idk if normal users can send that i forgot

[fervent moss]

The best way is using some kind of bot made by urself for this stuff

[rustic nova]

whats up

[hidden gorge]

i keep getting this

@rustic nova

[rustic nova]

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029779472-Troubleshooting-Cloudflare-1XXX-errors#error1016

A missing DNS A record that mentions origin IP address.
A CNAME record in the Cloudflare DNS points to an unresolvable external domain.
The origin host names (CNAMEs) in your Cloudflare Load Balancer default, region, and fallback pools are unresolvable. Use a fallback pool configured with an origin IP as a backup in case all other pools are unavailable.
When creating a Spectrum app with a CNAME origin, you need first to create a CNAME on the Cloudflare DNS side that points to the origin. Please see Spectrum CNAME origins for more details

[hidden gorge]

i can’t figure this out

[deft rock]

Got anything for `redirected you too many times'?

[rustic nova]

well if you have no entries then nothings gonna happen

@ is the root of the site, aka yoursite.com

if you want a subdomain such as www.youtsite.com, replace the @ with www

[hidden gorge]

i have many

[rustic nova]

https://developers.cloudflare.com/dns/manage-dns-records/how-to/create-dns-records/ can help alot

why do you have a cname on your domain if that domain is hosted on cloudflare

[hidden gorge]

it told to

me*

[rustic nova]

remove the first entry, as it doesnt make sense

what is your goal right now

[hidden gorge]

i just want to add cloudflare to my site

removed the www

[rustic nova]

then add a root entry (aka a new entry that has @ in the name, make sure it is a A record (A = your server ip)

root means your domains root, aka yoursite.com

non-root, aka a subdomain, would be www.yoursite.com

[hidden gorge]

ok

[rustic nova]

If you want cloudflare to serve your website through their proxy (aka through cloudflare for example as a ddos protection), make sure the "with proxy" is selected

[hidden gorge]

i added my ip

and now the site doesn’t load

[rustic nova]

cloudflare only proxies http-based ports such as 80

but if it does look like this (ignoring the name part, you can both directly use your full domain or just @ ) then the cloudflare setup should be correct

[hidden gorge]

ok

like this?

[rustic nova]

so if you want something such as a webhook you're using for top.gg voting as a plain example, you'd need to either use port 80 or use something like apache2/nginx to reverse proxy that. Though thats another entirely different thing

nah not a cname

or is replit giving you these details?

[hidden gorge]

yes

[rustic nova]

https://replit.com/talk/learn/Hey-Im-using-Cloudflare-DNS-and-I-add/8834/168885

nice images that wont load there

[hidden gorge]

yeah

[rustic nova]

https://replit.com/talk/learn/How-to-link-your-custom-domain-to-your-repl/141557

that one

[hidden gorge]

it’s verified but won’t load i use freenom domains

[rustic nova]

yeah make sure it isnt proxied then

the cname

toggle the switch "proxied"

I can visit that site, works fine

might not be what you'd want to see but that works

so thats up to replit now

and gone again, worked for a second

[hidden gorge]

im relinking it

[rustic nova]

also

I suggest you to move away from freenom once you can

[hidden gorge]

i have $0

[rustic nova]

once you can, doesnt mean right away

[hidden gorge]

and i use it for my minecraft’s server ip 😂

[rustic nova]

https://hostingpill.com/domain-registrar/freenom/

[sharp geyser]

u smell

[rustic nova]

you too

[sharp geyser]

Ty <3

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i've got a bit of a mathematical question

I have a summation of these fractions: 1/2, 3/4, 7/8, 15/16 etc

for the regular formula 1/2^n

How would i come up with another formula

that would give the same outcome

so for example n = 1 gives 1/2 ofcourse with that outcome, so n = 2 will give 3/4

[earnest phoenix]

You smell

[rustic nova]

Glad I'm aware

@sharp geyser stinks more tho

[lyric mountain]

I think that's as reduced as it can be

any other formula will be just unreduced versions of it

like 4/8 ^ n, or (2/4 / 2) ^ n

there's the sigma notation version (that represents the summation of 1/2 ^ n) that's

 n
 Σ 1/2 ^ i
i=1

[crystal wigeon]

hey umm, on button interaction "dispose" or "end" events how do i make all the buttons i've sent as disabled?

[lyric mountain]

edit the message, setting the new buttons

[crystal wigeon]

thanks

[raw nest]

Does someone know the software these docs are using because they are all very similiar?:
https://stripe.com/docs/api?lang=node
https://appwrite.io/docs/client/account
https://docs.github.com/en/rest/actions/artifacts
Like this code example on the left and sticke to the section and parameters etc. on the right. It's so similar

[lyric mountain]

sorry but, there's nothing similar in them

that's just the standard documentation structure

[eternal osprey]

yup i see but this is for mathematical induction

do you know that by any chance?

[raw nest]

So everyone of them built the same behaviour and site structure? I know the look very different etc.

[lyric mountain]

ye

there's a standard for documentation writing

like there is for scientific research structuring

if u want a builder for something similar, there's https://readthedocs.org/

[eternal osprey]

So don't worry about b, it's easy. However i would need an easier function for that one above

So we need to prove a

[lyric mountain]

there are also a thousand other builders tho, just choose ur flavor

[eternal osprey]

I already came up with a solution, but it's a hard formula so that would be too hard to proof in the inductive step

[raw nest]

bruh okay I was thinking about basic swagger first but it's kinda ugly 👀

[lyric mountain]

that's not asking u to find other formulas

that's asking u to write the direct formula

[eternal osprey]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

well, u could use sigma notation

if ur teacher allows it

[eternal osprey]

so without having to use the summation part. So for example n = 3 would immediatelly return us 7/8

[eternal osprey]

That would be impossible to prove in the inductive step

we need something simpler with the use of /, 2, * , ^

[lyric mountain]

f(x) = 1 / 2 ^ x

[eternal osprey]

That's the same as the base summation formula,

[lyric mountain]

I don't really get what exactly u want

[eternal osprey]

And it wouldn't suffice as take x = 3, it would return 1/8 instead of 7/8

have you ever had mathematical induction and summations?

[lyric mountain]

how so?

it'd return 1 / 8

1 / (2 ^ x)

remember bodmas

wait, just reread what u wrote

why should it return 7/8?

[eternal osprey]

That last formula you see is the base formula, but this is a summation. So that means that you need to add each value up to each other. So imagine you have n = 1, you get 1/2. N = 2 gives 1/4 etc etc. But remember, it's a summation! So n = 2 would give 1/4 + 1/2 = 3/4

and so on

so n = 3 = 1/8 + 1/4 + 1/2 = 7/8

have you ever had mathematical induction?

[lyric mountain]

can't u really use sigma?

[eternal osprey]

it's discrete mathematics i can't

[lyric mountain]

https://homework.study.com/explanation/write-the-sum-without-sigma-notation-and-evaluate-it-3-k-1-k-plus-7-k.html

[eternal osprey]

when i enrolled for this cs university class i expected coding instead of doing this 😭

[lyric mountain]

cs? I don't see where tf you'd use something like that lmao

[wheat mesa]

There’s a lot of math

[lyric mountain]

yeah but...not something like this

[eternal osprey]

We are not even coding, only focussing on the 'brain' behind the code and the functions etc

[wheat mesa]

Just do [(2^n) - 1] / 2^n

Easy

[eternal osprey]

It's because i enrolled into an university instead of college. In college they mainly focus on coding.

[eternal osprey]

Yeah that is what i had, but it will be a hell to prove using math. induction

[lyric mountain]

a proper cs answer would be simply ```c
double x = 0;
for (int i = 0; i < n; i++) {
x += 1 / Math.pow(2, i + 1);
}

[wheat mesa]

Huh? Math induction?

[eternal osprey]

this is discrete mathematics whahah

[eternal osprey]

mathematical induction

[wheat mesa]

I’ve never had a discrete math class

[eternal osprey]

oowh

[wheat mesa]

What is the format for answering this question

[eternal osprey]

Let me send you an example of a proof

[quartz kindle]

methmatics

[sharp geyser]

no u

[eternal osprey]

As you see, they had the base formula 2i + 1 right?

[lyric mountain]

are u sure u joined cs and not math?

[wheat mesa]

So do sigma notation

[eternal osprey]

Now they wanted to find a formula that equals to sigma 2i + 1

which would be n^2

and we need to find such formula as well

[wheat mesa]

I don’t think I understand

[eternal osprey]

and indeed this would be correct, but it would be like impossible to prove using mathematical induction

Ah

[wheat mesa]

I should be studying for my calc test next period 😭

[eternal osprey]

I should've never enrolled into computing science bro

wtf is this

like 80% is maths that fuck my ass

[wheat mesa]

99% of colleges/universities will require you to take a discrete mathematics class at some point

I don’t understand what the point of converting sigma notation into an n notation really is tbh, they’re just the same equations represented in different ways

[eternal osprey]

it's just a summation. You can call all numbers k, and the predicate holds for that k.

Now you need to prove that k + 1 holds as well

it's really vague and all, but thanks for trying

[wheat mesa]

I’m aware of what the notation means, I just don’t see the point

[eternal osprey]

Yeah they just want to fuck us

[wheat mesa]

Why would they not just allow you to write in sigma notation

[eternal osprey]

Because you wouldn't be able to proof it in the next steps

you would have to rewrite that same formula with k + 1 as parameter

[wheat mesa]

Why they gotta prove basic math 😭

[eternal osprey]

It's because in basic maths, they assume that something holds and thus is true, but that ain't really the case

[wheat mesa]

Top or bottom param?

[eternal osprey]

The top one

this is one example for you

[wheat mesa]

Then it’s just (2^i - 1)/2^i = k / k+1 no?

When i starts at 0

[eternal osprey]

It starts at a positive integer

[wheat mesa]

Oh wait yeah

[eternal osprey]

I used to have that answer yeah

for n > 1

[wheat mesa]

I gtg now, gl with that question

[eternal osprey]

wahahhaha alrighty, thanks mate

[wheat mesa]

Might help to ask some math geniuses in another server

[eternal osprey]

It's okay, thanks and good luck with your classes as well

[lyric mountain]

that'd be much easier with loops ☕

[raw nest]

Is there a way to change the architecture in a devcontainer?

Probably not right?

[lyric mountain]

not sure what that mean, but isn't the architecture bound to the cpu itself?

[raw nest]

ye I was thinking about that too but 1 mom

I found out you can define platform: e.g. linux/amd64 in a docker-compose.yml file and that should work.

[sharp geyser]

Alright so question

Lets say I have

switch(t) {
  case ReadyOpCode: {

    // do some stuff relating to ready
    break;
  }
  PacketHandler[data.t](client, data)
  break;
}

Would this go through ReadyOpCode and then go to the PacketHandler and execute?

[cinder patio]

is that even valid syntax?

[lament rock]

I doubt it. You should have that logic outside of the switch

if you wanted to only do stuff if the op is one you recognize and a default handler using the default case

[sterile lantern]

my dns is cloudfare, but what type of certificate do i generate (client/origin) for a mailserver

[lyric mountain]

no because u added break

[sterile lantern]

these are the dns records for the mail server (and another txt w/ domain name)

[lyric mountain]

if u want a fall-through switch u must not use break

[sharp geyser]

That could be troublesome

[lyric mountain]

and yes, that syntax is invalid

[sterile lantern]

i have one rn but it doesnt work

[lyric mountain]

for sure, that's why most ides warn u when u forget to break

not that we have such weakness in java ☕

[sharp geyser]

Yea I misdid some stuff

[sharp geyser]

I only say its troublesome because I want to run a handler for every event received

[lyric mountain]

just put it outside the switch

[sharp geyser]

[Function (anonymous)]
C:\Users\dyeaa\Documents\github\misty\typescript\trick-or-treat\src\structs\Shard.ts:86
                                PacketHandler[data.t](this.client, data.d);
                         ^
TypeError: handlers_1.PacketHandler[data.t] is not a function

Am I missing something?

btw PacketHandler[data.t] is that [Function (anonymous)] thing

[sterile lantern]

still not workin

[lament rock]

try logging the typeof the thing

it might be an array

if it says object, then lmao

and store it in a variable and call it

[sharp geyser]

It says function

😢

[lament rock]

was gonna ask if it was a constructor, but that would throw an error about needing the new key word

iirc

idk

[sharp geyser]

Yea

But if it is a function why is it telling me its not

😕

[lament rock]

its possible you cant call anonymous functions but what do I know

[sharp geyser]

No you can call anon funcs

[quartz kindle]

you're getting an event for which you dont have a function

just do if(PacketHandler[data.t]) PacketHandler[data.t](...)

const fn = PacketHandler[data.t];
if(fn) {
  fn(this.client, data.d);
} else {
  console.log(`received unknown or unsupported event: ${data.t}`);
}

[sharp geyser]

Oh that makes sense

[lament rock]

I love seeing stats like this so much

although I need to rethink some UI across the board

[sharp geyser]

Thanks that worked

[sudden geyser]

what's special about it

[sharp geyser]

That guild count

Pretty decent amount

[quartz kindle]

i removed my stats command because i removed sharding

[boreal iron]

Quite low memory usage… i guess there isn’t much cached?

[deft rock]

How can I get my bot to listen to a port?

[quartz kindle]

start a server

[deft rock]

got a doc on that?

[quartz kindle]

well what kind of server do you want to run?

like what is the port gonna be used for?

[deft rock]

for my status page

all I need it to do is listen to for say port 420

[radiant kraken]

it uses detritus 🚀

[boreal iron]

Ewww

[earnest phoenix]

Do you guys do packs for myths of moonrise

[boreal iron]

[lament rock]

I actually dont!

[lament rock]

Virtually nothing from Discord except guild IDs

a music bot

[deft rock]

[lament rock]

memory usage was what I was eluding to. I used to chill at 600MB for 1500 guilds a long time ago in the gateway v6 days

but I was a lot more dumb back then as a dev so

[deft rock]

Bot doesnt respond to commands. I have GuildMessages intent also

[wheat mesa]

no code no help :C

[lyric mountain]

That sums it all

[long marsh]

I'm wanting to build a bot that has guild-level ranks + global. Global seems easy enough; however, what is traditionally done for guild-level?
Ie. when someone new uses a command for the first time in a server, simply add them to that "guild"
What about when they leave the server? Does the bot listen for that member leave?

Unless there's something stupid simple that I'm not realizing 🤔

[lyric mountain]

Ig I can answer that

For my bot I have only one kind of profile: local

The global profile being the highest one

You could have something like a profile with nested profiles, like loritta does

[deft rock]

not sure what id need to share.

[lyric mountain]

This that the advantage of allowing server owners to edit the user's xp without affecting the global level

But also has the disadvantage of having to keep track of two separate profiles at once

[long marsh]

Ku, I did not provide enough context. When I say ranks, I mean game ranks. There's a global leaderboard; however, I have an open feature request to implement guild-level ranking. I'm struggling on how I would capture when a user "leaves" a server so that they're not tracked anymore on the leaderboard for that guild. Unfortunately, I don't see a straightforward way of doing this without tracking who leaves a guild (which I believe requires an intent)

[wheat mesa]

Code relating to your command handler, code relating to your gateway intents, code relating to your ping command specifically, etc

[long marsh]

More on this, I see other bots with guild-level leaderboards ... but they don't have any privileged intents.

[lyric mountain]

Ah so no level?

U don't really need any tracking at all, simply check if the user is still listed on the guild's cache

Most libs will remove it as soon as the user leaves

If all else fails, try to fetch the member

It'll either return the member or not

[long marsh]

Does this require a privileged intent?

[lyric mountain]

There are only 3 priv intents

Guild messages, guild intents and...I don't remember the last one

But I don't recall guild members being one

[long marsh]

Gotcha. Does this work the same with slash commands?

I guess as long as the bot is in the server, it works 🤷

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, it does

[long marsh]

I also assume that my implementation may be an issue here. I'm not using the Discord Gateway to receive interactions - I'm using an outgoing webhook.

[lyric mountain]

How you receive ints isn't really a matter, all you need it to be able to access member cache

Tho that's considering you're using a lib

[long marsh]

Yeah, that's doesn't exist for Webhooks.

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/guild#list-guild-members

If I need to list the guild members from an API invocation, I'm out of luck here. That would require a privileged intent.

Ie. using a webhook, I don't have a physical bot at all.

[lyric mountain]

Then you can't really, it doesn't require a priv intent but you can't "see" the server unless you have a bot there

[slim heart]

why do you need a list of members for a level bot?

[lyric mountain]

Interaction-only "bots" are strictly a trigger-answer kind of bot

You can't do anything on your own

[long marsh]

Right

[long marsh]

#development message

[lyric mountain]

If anything, simply show the whole learderboards regardless of the member being in the server or not

The excuse can be "they were once, and scored a rank"

[long marsh]

Yeah, I could do this. Swallow the risk; however, I'm sure people would complain 😄

[lyric mountain]

People will always complain

[slim heart]

yeah you dont get GUILD_MEMBER_REMOVE w/o guild_members intent

but why not apply for it if your use case is there

[long marsh]

Yep. But for a bot such as VirtualFisher, it reports guild-level leaderboards without the intent.

[lyric mountain]

Is members a priv intent?

[slim heart]

yes?

[long marsh]

I'm guessing they do this by using their bot's guild cache. (like Ku has been mentioning)

[lyric mountain]

I always remember there were 3, but I only remember the first 2

[slim heart]

the big 3 are message content, members, and presence

[long marsh]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/gateway#privileged-intents

[slim heart]

using their guild cache in what way

you dont need a list of members in the server to do lists, if you have their user id you can just display their info

[lyric mountain]

Guild-level leaderboard is definitely possible, you just won't be able to track which members are STILL in the server

[slim heart]

which is what most level anything bots do

(people will get mad if they get reset for leaving the server anyways so double win)

[long marsh]

Right, so this gets back to me original question. How would you do this?
Person A joins guild a -> does /play and generates a high score
Person B joins guild a -> does /play and generates a higher score
Person A leaves
Person B -> does /leaderboard

I don't want Person A to show up the guild leaderboard. VirtualFisher does this today without privileged intents.

[slim heart]

if they dont have the privileged intent they dont know the user isnt in the server anymore

they likely just show them on the leaderboard anyways

your best solution is to not mind if someone has left and instead just have an admin command to remove people if they please

[lyric mountain]

Unless the user had to authorize through oauth2

[long marsh]

You know, if this is the case my bad for this conversation haha. Let me get a member to join my test server right quick

[lyric mountain]

Tho that'd be clearly obvious

[long marsh]

Anyone want to join my test server for a quick test? lol

[slim heart]

and obnoxious to actually implement at scale [^ku]

[long marsh]

100000%

I'm worried about the scalability of the solution that I choose, ofc.

[lyric mountain]

I'd not worry much about scalability for an interaction-only bot, the weight is much lighter than a regular bot

Unless you reach millions of servers

[slim heart]

i mean the oauth part

[long marsh]

Yeah, I meant this too when I said 10000%

A webhook bot is simplistic, hosting the API on a server and allowing discord to send events is dead simple (thankfully)

No libraries needed.

[lyric mountain]

There's not much you can do without either the intent or oauth

[long marsh]

Right

[lyric mountain]

As I said, interaction bots only see what gets interacted with

[long marsh]

Right, def aware

[lyric mountain]

User presses a button -> bot knows user pressed a button

Tbh that's part of the reason why I'd never be able to switch to interactions fully

[ocean jay]

Hello I need some help

[slim heart]

discord.js moment

i think you need to make sure the user isnt a partial

[ocean jay]

o

[slim heart]

which itll never be but add a check that redefines it after fetching the partial

[ocean jay]

ah alright

I'm using typescript and this is hell

[lyric mountain]

That's a djs thing tho, not specifically ts

The difference is that js won't tell u something is wrong until shit happens

[long marsh]

TypeScript is technically the same way in some cases

[lyric mountain]

It is, but it saves you from debug hell sometimes since it is typed

[sharp geyser]

case GatewayOpcodes.Dispatch: {
                switch (data.t) {
                    case GatewayDispatchEvents.Ready: {
                        this.#session_id = data.d.session_id;
                        this.#readyAt = Date.now();
                        break;
                    }
                }
                if (PacketHandler[data.t]) {
                    PacketHandler[data.t](this.client, data.d);
                } else {
                    break;
                }
                break;
            }

This is largely how I handle events is this crude at all?

[long marsh]

Yep, agreed. In my professional experience though, TypeScript doesn't really protect you as much as you'd hope. It's still a nice to have regardless though.

[lyric mountain]

U don't need switch for a single branch

[sharp geyser]

It wont be just that one

Right now ready is the only one I do anything with internally though

I haven't done stuff with the other ones

[lyric mountain]

Btw u don't need brackets for cases

[sharp geyser]

It makes it look cleaner to me

[lyric mountain]

Unless u want to isolate variables

[sharp geyser]

I like the brackets being there cause it lets me know where it ends

[lyric mountain]

But yes, switch-case is probably the best way to handle such stuff

The alternative would be if-else, but it's horrible

[sharp geyser]

Yea lets not

I also have yet to implement rate limiting on the gateway

[lyric mountain]

Make sure you extract as much common code as possible from the branches tho

[sharp geyser]

So right now I can freely spam the gateway

[lyric mountain]

1 day ratelimit be like

[sharp geyser]

lol

I just don't know how I should handle rate limiting

[lyric mountain]

Listen to ratelimit header

[sharp geyser]

Gateway doesn't have that no?

only rest

[lyric mountain]

And make sure you don't retry any 4xx errors

[sharp geyser]

I am doing the gateway haku

I haven't touched any rest stuff yet

[lyric mountain]

Didn't touch gateway, so idk

[sharp geyser]

Yea

I had a semi working implementation a while back

I lost it tho

[mortal jungle]

hi

[long marsh]

Interestingly enough, they leaderboard updated after the user left to not include them.

No privileged intents. 🤔 ... I wonder how they did it

[hasty mulch]

Anyone familiar with listening for when a member gets timed out using d.py?

[earnest phoenix]

Use the discord.on_member_update event

You can then use before.is_timed_out() and after.is_timed_out() - then the member has either been timed out, or un timed out

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.on_member_update
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Member

[hasty mulch]

Yeah, got that established now. Just working on the duration

[rustic nova]

timed_out_until on the member object

[earnest phoenix]

Yep

[rustic nova]

is None if no timeout is active

[earnest phoenix]

Returns an optional datetime, if timed out

[rustic nova]

is UTC based

let's be more specific

[hasty mulch]

Can it still be timedelta'd?

[rustic nova]

the timedelta is based in utc

oh wait

yeah you can just convert a datetime to a timedelta if you'd want the duration

ngl discords built in way is good too, unless you need precision

oh you'd need to subtract the timeout until with the current time for that

[hasty mulch]

Can't use datetime.datetime.utcnow though

[rustic nova]

why not, what's the error

is it because there's some timezone-aware logic behind it?

[hasty mulch]

Can't subtract offset-naive and offset-aware datetimes, yeah

[rustic nova]

per stackoverflow, remove the timezone awareness

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/796008/cant-subtract-offset-naive-and-offset-aware-datetimes

[hasty mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[rustic nova]

at least that's what I think lol

I'm pretty certain I had to deal with it before lmao

[hasty mulch]

Hold on, lemme ask UTC to remove its timezone, lol

[rustic nova]

lmaoo

or another answer from that same stackoverflow, datetime.now(timezone.utc)

but I don't think that's any different from utcnow

[hasty mulch]

No, would probably throw the same error

We could probably ask Discord to include a duration option in their API since the feature is so new

[rustic nova]

or an event itself entirely

which would make sense seeing what it does, such as disconnecting a user from VC, disallowing rejoining it etc

[hasty mulch]

Also, GitHub CoPilot wants me to use timed_out_reason. That doesn't exist, right? Lol

[rustic nova]

no lol doesn't exist

[hasty mulch]

Figured

[rustic nova]

if you're entirely fucked, you might need to fetch the audit logs for the reason lmao

[hasty mulch]

I was supposed to write a college essay two hours ago

[rustic nova]

lmaoo

[hasty mulch]

I think I'm going to stop here, lol

[eternal osprey]

hey guys, does anyone know what the & is in c++

like int function(int& test){}

Like why tf is there a &

and what is the difference between the above and this: int function(int test){}?

[pale vessel]

google?

[eternal osprey]

I tried

[pale vessel]

I see

[eternal osprey]

but i still don't understand the difference between them

[pale vessel]

https://cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/pointers/

[harsh nova]

Pointer refference iirc. If you edit &test you edit the original variable passed to the function whereas if you edit a you only edit the variable test within the function

[rustic nova]

must ask

what practical purpose do pointers have

you can essentially have a function that directly modifies the value without having to reassign it by the return value of that function right?

[eternal osprey]

Wouldn't this literally just do the same?

I see! So imagine i have ```c++
int function(int& test){test = 5}

function(9);

 ```c++
 int function(int test){test = 5}

function(9);

```Now the variable test will be set to 5 as well?

[rustic nova]

you'd probably need another variable, but essentially on the second one, the "test" is within the function scope and doesn't change the value of the integer passed

on the first one, 9 would become 5

am I right family friendly

[harsh nova]

^ yeah that’s right

[eternal osprey]

Owhhh wow i understand it now

[rustic nova]

so tldr easier said:

& allows you to directly change the value of the variable you passed in

or better said, inherit

[harsh nova]

Normally it’s advised against mutating parameters passed to a function as that can lead to undefined behaviour

[eternal osprey]

So with the ```js
int function(int& test){test = 5}

function(9);This would indeed be set to 5. However forjs
int function(int test){return 5;}

test = function(9);```

Like thihs right?

Because we cannot change the test within the function, we must change it outside as we call by value

[rustic nova]

these are essentially the same mechanics yes, the second one benefits code functionality

[eternal osprey]

and in the first snippet we call by reference and can directly change the variable

[rustic nova]

readability*

[eternal osprey]

owh my teacher says that the first methtod & is better to use

[harsh nova]

^ and you cannot access the test variable in the first example as you define it within the function parameters

[rustic nova]

well it depends on your goal:

• readability for future Devs working on that route

or something else, can't tell what a benefit that has ngl