development

[civic scroll]

the first 2 file in stack i inspected seem to only consume the object

[earnest phoenix]

Is there a reason that running the guildinfo in an external server to the support one, outputs this error?

[hard wraith]

Its a slash command

[earnest phoenix]

I find it quite odd that running the command works in the support server, but not any others.

Edit I have figured the reason, it is because in said external server there is too many roles for the bot to print and so, the error is given.

[hard wraith]

Just one thing… the command that’s not working… has no visa nkw place where executeCommand is listed.

I’ve asked for a fit repo so you can look at the full code… it’s… messy and confusing.

[civic scroll]

@hard wraith does the problem reproducible btw

[hard wraith]

I haven’t got the repo yet.

[civic scroll]

i forgot to ask

[hard wraith]

And they don’t use discord.js it seems they use express

[civic scroll]

same thing, different implementation

[hard wraith]

Like I would never dream of using pure rest for discord…

But I do know that if you have a command that is calling executeInteraction and the command file it’s calling to DOESNT have that defined… it won’t work 😂

I got my team calling me so I can’t put more time into helping sadly, hopefully you find something more beneficial than a method being called that doesn’t seem defined.

Cus I couldn’t find it, and that stopped my debugging because where can I see the .url part of a command execution I can’t locate 😂

love being called about people not knowing how to expand a pipeline job to view the console output on a fail

[civic scroll]

@hard wraith i'm tempted to rewrite this guy's project in typescript

[hard wraith]

🤷 I wanna re-write it to utilise discord.js with a better command handler for the bot portion.

[civic scroll]

they are bloated with jsdocs

[hard wraith]

Mhm

Messy handlers too

Instead I’m stuck in a meeting about too many failed pipelines… because someone made a new pipeline yaml and that caused failures Cus of error checking… and the reviewers don’t know how to view pipeline job logs… this isn’t my job. My job is to fix the pipeline and make new ones for apps 😂

[frigid robin]

@lyric mountain I have kind of a breakthrough, it seems that when I run the same code locally and connecting to the DB via SSH tunnel, the bot sees the emojis in the DB and prints them normally, but if I run it through PythonAnywhere (which is not through the SSH tunnel) it sees the emojis and prints them as ? ? ?.
So I came to the conclusion that it's something with the connection. But wtf? Because I set both to utf8mb4. This is the code that connects:

def create_mysql_connection(tunnel=tunnel_mode):
    try:
        if not tunnel:
            connection = MySQLdb.connect(
                user=database_username,
                passwd=database_password,
                host=database_host_address,
                db=database_name,
                charset='utf8mb4')
            return connection

        else:  # Connecting through SSH tunnel, needed if outside of PythonAnywhere network
            sshtunnel.SSH_TIMEOUT = 5.0
            sshtunnel.TUNNEL_TIMEOUT = 5.0
            tunnel = sshtunnel.SSHTunnelForwarder(
                    (ssh_hostname),
                    ssh_username=ssh_username,
                    ssh_password=ssh_password,
                    remote_bind_address=(
                            database_host_address, 3306)
            )
            tunnel.start()
            # tunnel.stop()
            connection = MySQLdb.connect(
                user=database_username,
                passwd=database_password,
                host='127.0.0.1', port=tunnel.local_bind_port,
                db=database_name,
                charset='utf8mb4') #necessary for emoji character support
            return connection

[hard wraith]

Then don’t use pythonanywhere 😂

[frigid robin]

no man it's something stupid about the connectionn

the solution to everything is not to use it wtf O_o

[lyric mountain]

you might need to encode the string to something like base64 then decoding at the other end before inserting

[frigid robin]

why does it differ if I'm using the SSH tunnel though

[earnest phoenix]

Do u guys store ur functions in the main file, in a separate file or in multiple separate files

Just wanna see what people prefer because I lose visibility of my code easily at over 500+ lines

[lyric mountain]

because the communication happens with bytes regardless

if the charset is different it'll get corrupted at one of the sides

[frigid robin]

don't both sides start and end at the same places?

[lyric mountain]

even if they do, nothing grants they're both expecting the same charset

? means the emoji is getting parsed to some charset that doesn't contain emojis

since that's the default value for unknown characters

[lyric mountain]

always split into multiple files

[earnest phoenix]

Alright

i was stuffing all my functions in a separate file but that's not good

[lyric mountain]

make files based on context

[earnest phoenix]

Ye

[lyric mountain]

drawing functions? graphical utils file

math? math utils file

[civic scroll]

multiple separate files if the content deserves its own category and longer than 450 lines

[earnest phoenix]

Alright that sounds fair

[civic scroll]

here's what happens if you shove em all in one

[lyric mountain]

that's not even a matter of personal taste, the compiler suffers from very long files

the IDE too

[civic scroll]

you can't split data files

json

@lyric mountain remember that one 160k lines of character data

[lyric mountain]

character data?

[lyric mountain]

yaml, toml, timl, properties, ini

[wheat mesa]

Depends honestly. If it's all related? One file. If it's misc.? I usually have a utils.ts file where I export different functions that aren't really grouped together

[civic scroll]

prts

[quartz kindle]

remember that bot someone posted here that had like 50 if elses inside each other?

something about a weather command

[civic scroll]

hell

[wheat mesa]

yall wanna see my first bot

[civic scroll]

i think i need to make a progress bar for this one

[lyric mountain]

penguin stats

[wheat mesa]

lemme make sure there's nothing sensitive in the bot before I upload the file

yall are going to be horrified

[civic scroll]

yeah

[quartz kindle]

yes pls

[civic scroll]

it's the site for item drop rates

in arknights

[quartz kindle]

anything for entertainment

so we can numb ourselves

[lyric mountain]

what even is arknights about?

[quartz kindle]

:^)

[civic scroll]

a game

about a world

with cancer rocks

[quartz kindle]

arkham knights

[civic scroll]

but

it has great arts

and banger music

[lyric mountain]

about a world
with cancer rocks
so...rio de janeiro?

[wheat mesa]

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raponaqube.js ok have fun with this garbage

[lyric mountain]

rap on a qube

[wheat mesa]

it's better than the first version, I had a messageCreate event for EACH command

ngl looking back at my old stuff is funny

sometimes I feel like I haven't really learned a whole lot then I look at shit like that

[quartz kindle]

it aint that bad

[wheat mesa]

it used to be way worse

look at my first mesages in top.gg and you'll see

[civic scroll]

@lyric mountain i think my true potential

will be unlocked after i know how to program sprite animations

[hard wraith]

ew

sprite anim programming is dirty...

[wheat mesa]

^

[hard wraith]

This is a pg server

[lyric mountain]

yk, java has a great lib for 2d games

[civic scroll]

WHAT

what do you mean

[wheat mesa]

lots of great libs

[civic scroll]

it's beautiful

[hard wraith]

Take your programming porn away.

[lyric mountain]

and by java it also includes kotlin if u must

[hard wraith]

...

I think you misunderstood...

[civic scroll]

BRO

[lyric mountain]

tbh, I love how any JVM lib is useable on any JVM lang

[civic scroll]

i plan to use rust or c++

[hard wraith]

Sprite anim programming is so beautiful its porn lol.

[civic scroll]

since i wanna compile it to webassembly

and use it on the browser

[lyric mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[civic scroll]

then i will animate them

whatever

as long as it within my interest

porn, is not one of them

[hard wraith]

No...

[civic scroll]

i have many ideas but can only achieved ones i know the presequisites

[hard wraith]

Have you never heard anyone refer to something as so good its whatever category that thing is in porn?

[civic scroll]

@lyric mountain asset update

[lyric mountain]

lmao

[hard wraith]

Like idk... Food porn being when you see really good looking food on social media or a tv show?

[civic scroll]

but i can't push em since that introduces breaking changes

[hard wraith]

sprite animation code is programming porn lol

[civic scroll]

nah

chaotic

i have the sprite animation code in js

but i want to rewrite them

[hard wraith]

you know im pretty sure there is something that can turn a js app to a ts app...

its some node library I saw once...

[quartz kindle]

@wheat mesathis was one of the first versions of my bot

[cursive musk]

I am creating a development blog. I am thinking of making "series" for different languages. Apart from Web Dev, what else should I add?

[quartz kindle]

yes, the bot is inside an html file

run by nwjs

[civic scroll]

no, i'm rewriting it to rust / c++

[civic scroll]

[civic scroll]

just web dev

for now

[hard wraith]

ah

im so tired lol. Ive been staring at a yaml file for hours

[wheat mesa]

lmao

I've just been queueing in overwatch for hours

just queued for 10 minutes to get a game that was over in less than 5 minutes

[hard wraith]

I wish I could be in a queue for any game…

[quartz kindle]

are you high elo or is the game dead?

[wheat mesa]

both

queueing top 500 na games rn but the game is also just dead

[quartz kindle]

rip

[wheat mesa]

ow2 coming out in 2 months tho hopefully that'll revive the game

[eternal osprey]

hey sadly putty is only for ssh, does anyone know a ftp client?

[hard wraith]

FileZilla

[lyric mountain]

imagine using putty

[hard wraith]

I use putty

To connect to over 30 Ubuntu servers. It makes selecting and connecting to them easy.

[solemn latch]

I prefer bitvise

[frigid robin]

@lyric mountain the plot thickens https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62829879/error-1273-but-my-schema-dont-contain-utf8mb4-0900-ai-ci
but I'm not sure where/how I'm supposed to alter the engine like that

where is this
engine=create_engine('mysql+mysqlconnector://user:***********@**********:3306/amatdbcharset=utf8mb4&collation=utf8mb4_general_ci')
supposed to be executed?

[lyric mountain]

that's the connection url

[frigid robin]

uh im using the library though

[lyric mountain]

wherever u set the database url in it

[boreal iron]

What’s the advantage of putty to the inbuilt ssh client of windows?

[lyric mountain]

putty allows saving connections ig

that said, the same can be done with a bash script

[hard wraith]

Putty has an easy ssh key gen that also saves the details of it for use. And it’s what work lets us use. The windows one is blocked 😂

I could still use it using my heightened clearance… but I’ll stick to operating under the radar without breaching regulations.

[boreal iron]

Windows saves those details in your profile folder .ssh too

[sharp geyser]

Imagine using putty

[lyric mountain]

also iirc, putty ssh keys aren't compatible with regular ssh keys

[hard wraith]

Strange that you say that considering I have no issues 😂

[sharp geyser]

They are not no

Some programs if you're logging into a vps via ssh/ftp require it to be generated by putty as well

So it kinda sucks sometimes

[boreal iron]

That’s why Unix and windows systems have this shit already integrated in their cli

No need for 3rd party apps at all

[sharp geyser]

I guess it was made for those who want a ui

Although putty could of just built on top of the built-in ssh

[fierce kindle]

Friends, I made a code to list the voters, I set everything, but it does not send the message, what is the reason?

[earnest phoenix]

It's better for you to show the code

[earnest phoenix]

Does it log an error there? Or does it do nothing at all?

[fierce kindle]

it doesn't show an error and it doesn't send a message on the console either

[earnest phoenix]

Have you tried logging if the /dblwebhook endpoint is receiving a request at all?

[frail condor]

how can i disable cloudflare captcha thing for my api endpoint?

[fierce kindle]

no how do we do

[earnest phoenix]

Try logging something inside the webhook listener, at the first line of it

app.post('/dblwebhook', webhook.listener(async (vote) => {
  console.log('Top.gg vote webhook request receieved');

  ...
});

[earnest phoenix]

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-to-turn-off-captcha/305523

[frail condor]

what does discord do with thier endpoint?

cloudflare aint flagging my ip with that but my own project is being flagged by cloudflare

[earnest phoenix]

Discord's API endpoints don't have a CAPTCHA or anything of that sort

Just basic ratelimits in place

[frail condor]

ah

[fierce kindle]

no it didn't happen again

[earnest phoenix]

Did it not log anything?

[fierce kindle]

no

[earnest phoenix]

Then there's an issue with your webhook URL you've set in your Top.gg webhook page

[lyric mountain]

try acessing the url on the browser

see what error pops in the F12 console

[earnest phoenix]

Nice IP address

[fierce kindle]

Will it be an ip address?

[boreal iron]

There’s no valid SSL certificate for an IP

[earnest phoenix]

It has to be HTTP not HTTPS

[boreal iron]

Use http protocol without secure protocol

[lyric mountain]

and delete that screenshot, just in case

[fierce kindle]

Doesn't work when using http

[earnest phoenix]

I don't think you've tested it, you can also use the Test button in the webhook page to test your webhook instead of voting

[sharp geyser]

Turkey

[boreal iron]

Also I doubt you would listen to port 80 with ssl enabled

[fierce kindle]

I tested it by clicking that button, I'm already trying

[frail condor]

looks like the cloudflare panel does not have the firewall option showed in that thread

[earnest phoenix]

Then you're probably providing the wrong IP address

[boreal iron]

Show what you entered without the IP

[lyric mountain]

https://<ip>:80/dblwebhook

[fierce kindle]

how so

[boreal iron]

Dude https and :80

[lyric mountain]

[boreal iron]

Wtf

Typical Java user

[lyric mountain]

[boreal iron]

You entered this address (http://<ip>/dblwebhook) on topgg, then pressed save, then test?

[earnest phoenix]

It won't work without the port

[boreal iron]

Bullshit

80 is the default port

No need to enter it

[earnest phoenix]

Try it for yourself then lmao

[fierce kindle]

I am trying

[boreal iron]

Yeah I know it or I wouldn’t call it bullshit

[earnest phoenix]

Oh really? Like fr? 👀

[boreal iron]

No fucking http request in the world without secure connection requires you to add the default port to the url

[fierce kindle]

didn't happen again

[earnest phoenix]

Can you actually show us what you're setting the webhook URL as? Without the IP address

[boreal iron]

As well as you don’t need to add the default ssl port to the url, too

Lemme get through the login process

[earnest phoenix]

I think we all know that, I meant the other ports than the default one (80), although Top.gg probably doesn't work without it, who knows

[fierce kindle]

I haven't created a webhook, I'm trying to send it via bot, vds is also hosted on the bot

[earnest phoenix]

We aren't talking about Discord channel webhooks here, the webhook page on Top.gg requires a webhook URL to do a POST request to

So you can listen to it and receive the vote data

[boreal iron]

Context Voltrex … he added port 80 to its url and I stated he doesn’t need to, then you responded with its required

So…?

[fierce kindle]

Do I need to create a webhook via top.gg

[boreal iron]

I just think he doesn’t understand anything we say, as he’s lacking some English basics it seems

Which might be the real issue

[earnest phoenix]

I wasn't going with that context, but whatever you say; but yeah they seem to be misunderstanding some things we say

[earnest phoenix]

You don't need to create a webhook, the webhook URL can just be your VPS' IP address and port (if it's not the default one), and whatever endpoint you want it to be (such as /dblwebhook shown in the examples)

[fierce kindle]

so yes, I translate what you say through translation, most of them are inverted sentences

[boreal iron]

Well you was obviously
Idk… we don’t seem to collaborate well today

[earnest phoenix]

So you can basically set the webhook URL field in your Top.gg webhook page as http://<IP address, your VPS IP address in this case>:<port, this part isn't needed if you're using the default port which is 80>/dblwebhook

[boreal iron]

Did you actually ask him if he tries to use his home IP instead of a server?

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah got off the track there a little bit, sometimes this kinda happens

[boreal iron]

lol

Maybe he tried to send the webhook to his home IP

[earnest phoenix]

Kinda, mayhaps
#development message

[boreal iron]

I feel like he doesn’t get what we mean tho

[earnest phoenix]

yeah, and since they're using a translator, it makes it worse

[fierce kindle]

like this

[earnest phoenix]

Without the <>, that's just placeholders

[fierce kindle]

<> they have vds ip in them

[boreal iron]

Yes but you can not add < > to your URL

That’s no valid URL

http://ipaddr/dblwebhook

[fierce kindle]

<> I removed them, just say I'll try with vds ip

[boreal iron]

If your webhook listener is listening to port 80

Make sure it’s running

[fierce kindle]

no it didn't happen again

[boreal iron]

It didn’t log anything?

[fierce kindle]

no

[boreal iron]

Can you open and access the url in your browser?

http://ipaddr/dblwebhook

[fierce kindle]

it says the site is unreachable

when i use it in vds it says this too

[hard wraith]

Yeah Cus your webhook is listening for post requests not get.

🤦

Change post to get and you won’t have that error.

Or just copy what you have for post… and duplicate it and change one of those listeners to get.

[wheat mesa]

I thought it was meant to be a POST endpoint though...

[hard wraith]

It is… but for debugging.

[wheat mesa]

Since it accepts webhook data incoming

[hard wraith]

Just to check the ip works.

Because I copied the code exact from the website and it worked.

Post data and all.

[fierce kindle]

how can i do it can you help me privately

[hard wraith]

I wanna tell you to use php because then I can just throw my code at ya

My express code I don’t use for webhooks…

[fierce kindle]

I don't know how to use php

[hard wraith]

You don’t know how to use node or express either from what I saw…

Or how event handling and listeners work.

So it wouldn’t matter what language I helped you in, because I would basically have to make the entire code myself and spoon feed you, and I’m not doing that.

[fierce kindle]

i know what eventhandlers work on but i don't know top.gg mixed documentation

[hard wraith]

topgg is just…

Ignore topgg stuff because your listener isn’t working.

Once that works, you look at topgg

[fierce kindle]

hmm okey

[hard wraith]

I used php and I didn’t even need to do anything with topgg api

Actually hold on… I think I need to check something about express. Cus if I can convert my pho to express then I’ve solved your issue 😂

Yep solved it.

[fierce kindle]

what do you need to check

[hard wraith]

I have a way to negate using the topgg api at all using express I just need to make and test it.

[fierce kindle]

what

[ancient nova]

guys why does banning by ID doesn't work?

[hard wraith]

How odd... Nothing is showing in console...

does express even wor...

wait a minute...

[ancient nova]

what are you having issues with?

[ancient nova]

if you want that endpoint to be visible by people you have to do app.get() instead of app.post()

[wheat mesa]

util.inspect instead of debugger… I rest my case

[hard wraith]

its getting a post request not a get request...

[ancient nova]

I don't even know what you're having issues with

[rocky dagger]

so im trying to make a table to check if every command option is valid so i made this but it doesnt output the correct path in the error. so instead of it logging for example 1.0.name is not a string it just logs .name is not a string https://srcb.in/QI7H32McCe

[wheat mesa]

Then probably don’t want to be answering if you don’t know what he’s having issues with :p

[wheat mesa]

just use typescript at that point :c

[hard wraith]

trying to get the full response of the test webhook from top.gg

[ancient nova]

just guessed

[rocky dagger]

i dont know ts

[hard wraith]

To satisfy you... And no neither worked.

but connecting to that endpoint did

[hard wraith]

Got any ideas now?

Feel free to have a play, this is how express handles post an get requests so like... Not sure why topgg isn't triggering either.```js
const express = require("express");
const app = express();
let port = 3000;

const util = require("util");

app.post('/', async (req, res) => {
console.log("post");
console.log(util.inspect(req, false, null, true));
res.send("We see you");
});

app.get('/', async (req, res) => {
console.log("get");
console.log(util.inspect(req, false, null, true));
res.send("We see you");
});

app.listen(port, () => console.log(Webook listener running on port: ${port}));

[ancient nova]

what iss the post request suppose to do?

[hard wraith]

And util inspect allows console.log() to display the full json object on the console.

[hard wraith]

No clue... RN I just want to see what is posted to the endpoint by topgg lol

[wheat mesa]

Console.log should do that regardless afaik

Or is it logging [Object object] whenever you do that

[hard wraith]

Nope, there is a limit. I found that out with an object from stripe.

[wheat mesa]

It’s not a big object

[hard wraith]

IDC. I am using it just incase lol.

[wheat mesa]

Plus you could use the debugger for that in the future instead of littering your code with util.inspect calls

[ancient nova]

so you want to do a post request and want that logged in your console?

do you have another app that makes that post request?

[hard wraith]

yes because topgg uses post requests on vote...

[wheat mesa]

The code is pretty self explanatory

[ancient nova]

and do you get a console log from that post request?

[wheat mesa]

Just saying

[hard wraith]

This is the receiving endpoint...

No thats the issue

[wheat mesa]

Make sure your port is open

Try sending a curl post request to your endpoint

If it doesn’t work then you likely haven’t portforwarded that port and it’s being blocked by your machine

[hard wraith]

mate... im using it on a webhosting server I just spun up. It listens to whatever port that tells it to.

[wheat mesa]

Ah

Odd then

[hard wraith]

I do this stuff for a living...

[ancient nova]

do you have the IP and port of ur webserver host? better host on the same port as ur server

[hard wraith]

I build an app build webhook for work that uses get and post at the same time.

[hard wraith]

All on a custom domain through cloudflare dns and yes I checked, it works.

[wheat mesa]

I don’t know you or your experience, there’s often a lot of people that come into this channel with little to no experience about some things

I generally assume the lower level of knowledge because it’s a safer option :p

[hard wraith]

I built an api for my bots to use, using secure webhooks I think this one should work... because thats how the api for work handles things. but nothing is triggered.

Does topgg require the endpoint to be https I wonder...

[wheat mesa]

That might be it

[ancient nova]

I've seen a lot of websites filter unsecure connections recently so might be

[hard wraith]

no it cant be that... Because their docs default to port 80 wich is exclusively http not https which is port 43.

[lyric mountain]

443

[hard wraith]

Typo, thank you.

Glad I dont have these issues on php lol.

[lyric mountain]

what issues?

[boreal iron]

Nope

[hard wraith]

Yeah figured.

[boreal iron]

Yeah I see chat didn’t scroll again

Idk discord client getting more unstable from day to day

[hard wraith]

I mean I can always lesenncrypt my endpoin.

[boreal iron]

As long as you use the full chain cert no issues should appear

But not really required for webhooks as theres no private data involved anyways

[ancient nova]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

[stuck dawn]

how can i put the background (yellow color) in the background and that image behind on top?

[earnest phoenix]

Hey guys I was considering making my project open source for more transparency and ensuring quality/trust but my only fear is that someone might steal the whole code 1:1 and then promote it as their project
Keep in mind my bot is not known yet and I plan to make it somewhat known for a specific audience/group im targeting, and there isn't many competitors around so I would like to use my opportunity

Do you guys have your bots open source and what's your opinion or two cents about this?

Would appreciate ig

[quartz kindle]

i only open sourced my discontinued bots

my main bot is not open source primarily because its unique in what it does, it has no competitor

if it were a generic bot, i would make it open source

[earnest phoenix]

fair

[lyric mountain]

my bot is fully open source (gpl), also has no competitor but even if someone tried they wouldn't understand the logic behind it lmao

also most of the actual good stuff requires you to make your own cards

so ig I'm pretty safe

the rules is: if you have hard-worked logic that is innovative, make it closed source

or at least hide the good part

otherwise don't bother with it, nobody is gonna copy a regular bot

there's also a big advantage about going OS: most services offer licenses for open source devs

especially jetbrains

[quartz kindle]

yeah, in my case i have a pretty complex canvas code that i dont want people copying xd

[wheat mesa]

You could go open source after your bot is already dominating that space :^)

Since nobody would have a chance to catch up

[boreal iron]

With a comment and copyright of somebody else somewhere hidden in it

[sharp geyser]

Even if they steal your code, alot of licenses require leaving in your copyright mark in the code files assuming you put them there

So even if they steal your code you get credit

[wheat mesa]

you're relying on people to be ethical about it

and to not just remove the comment and slightly modify it

cough cough itsokaybae with dyno css

[boreal iron]

At the end nobody gives a fuck about using anyone else code or software for private usage
Same goes for cracked programs etc
As long as you don’t have a commercial use case most countries don’t even judge it

Thing is… if you wanna prevent people from using and stealing your stuff you shouldn’t release it

You think people should feel guilty for cracking a program or OS? No

[sharp geyser]

That's the pains of going open source

Just gotta accept it

[boreal iron]

Well either you develop something for “anybody” or keep it for yourself

Not really an ethical decision

Not to say that honoring something is worthless or bad at all

[hard wraith]

my bot got denied because they couldnt see the commands... But didnt read this in the description...

You cannot see the commands you don't have the required perm for.

I wanna cry...

I can cry about that right?

Also, my no topgg-api required webhook thing is ready, feel free to add feedback to it. https://github.com/JCoNet/node-topgg-webhook

[sharp geyser]

🤷‍♀️

Did you at least have a help command?

[hard wraith]

They are slash commands... And the description is the help command...

[sharp geyser]

Okay

Dispute the deny reason then ig

[boreal iron]

I really wonder… a help command for slash commands isn’t really needed any longer

[hard wraith]

Rightt?

[sharp geyser]

It wasn't even about him not having a help command

[hard wraith]

My help command opens a support ticket lol

[sharp geyser]

He was missing commands

I read the deny reason it states clearly why it was denied

[hard wraith]

default member permission on slash commands.

[boreal iron]

While some sort of obviously entry might still be helpful like when mentioning the bot it should respond with “hey use slash commands”

[hard wraith]

The commands are there. Just if you do not have the minimum permission, you cannot see them.

[boreal iron]

But that would require a gateway connection you don’t actually really need for interactions

So yeah…

[sharp geyser]

Do you state this anywhere?

[hard wraith]

Yes

[sharp geyser]

Then dispute it

[hard wraith]

Right in the command list.

[sharp geyser]

It's not too late to dispute the deny reason

[boreal iron]

He was missing the commands?

[sharp geyser]

So instead of crying about it do smth about it

[boreal iron]

Aren’t that global commands?

[hard wraith]

Yeah...

They are global...

You can see what he can see in the imgur...

[sharp geyser]

#mod-logs message

Here's the reference to it

[hard wraith]

but clearly the commands are there.

[sharp geyser]

If you feel the deny reason was unwarranted dm the br

[hard wraith]

I did, I gota resubmit. So I am going to modify the description to plainly state you cannot see commands you dont have the required perm for.

[sharp geyser]

You could also make a slash command called wherearecommands :^)

That'd definitely get the point across

[hard wraith]

on the list...

there are 32 commands ahead of that to work on

[boreal iron]

You need to check if they’re available in direct messages

Those pictures can also show guild commands

You can’t see the difference in guild chats

Could be accidentally registered as guild command

I have to say that as it happened to me too since I forgot to move it over to a global command after testing it as guild command

[hard wraith]

Resubmitted.

No commands on my bot are guild commands.

[boreal iron]

You can see ‘em all when direct messaging your bot?

[hard wraith]

no

i use dmPermission as well that allows me to set if they can be used in dm

[boreal iron]

It’s not about your permission handler and where you can use em

If you can not see those commands in direct messages when entering a / then they aren’t global commands

[hard wraith]

ok well... Now I need to figure how to check an image url someone sends me is sfw.

if all I am getting is a string of a url to an image, how do I check if that is SFW?

[boreal iron]

You should fix your command issue first

[hard wraith]

thats sorted

[boreal iron]

There’s only a limited amount of denies

[hard wraith]

It was an easy fix.

the issue now is them being able to set pornography as the welcome banner image... How do I detect NSFW content from a url?

[boreal iron]

By using a service checking the image for you

[hard wraith]

ok

well azure it is lol

nah that costs $1 every 1000 images...

best not to use machine learning

[boreal iron]

I don’t see how you should that yourself without some sort of trained AI detecting implicit images

[lone wing]

Where can i question my bot's dispute? It is valid but I want to ask a question for my fix.

[hard wraith]

DMs of the reviewer

[lone wing]

That's allowed?

[boreal iron]

Yes

[hard wraith]

Azure has pre-trained AI for it.

[boreal iron]

Not sure if there’re also free APIs for it

But I guess there are

[hard wraith]

to azure I go

it should be free...

[boreal iron]

I just don’t really see any use case why you should bother with that

[whole knot]

Trust me, it is so annoying to go through a list with a bunch of commands...

[boreal iron]

Well I mean the slash commands being sorted alphabetically

So remembering the last tested one then going on with the next…

While I still agree to that I don’t see how an help command makes anything better

Speaking about application commands of course

[whole knot]

You can include categories and people will know what you support and what you don't support/include

[boreal iron]

So you’re not speaking about command testing just generally about to get to know all commands a bots offers?

[hard wraith]

Because you shouldnt be able to send porn to sfw channels... So now I am looking for a safesearch api

[whole knot]

Yes, that is what I am mostly referring to

[boreal iron]

Well as long as you don’t request images from external sources but using image links from users as arguments in your commands you don’t need to bother about that

I can also upload explicit content without a bot

[hard wraith]

They provide an image they want to use for the welcome banner... They can include porn... I need to stop that, but no clue what API to use.

[boreal iron]

So per TOS the responsibility is by the user

[hybrid cargo]

^

[hybrid cargo]

I agree I agree

[boreal iron]

If they want to they can easily without using your app

[whole knot]

Just comparing on how it looks like when you have a proper help command, maybe even without a dropdown

[boreal iron]

Thought you meant command testing

But yeah that’s not wrong at all… the more user friendly the better

[whole knot]

When it comes to testing I can't complain, though on a personal level I still prefer help commands

Depends, I would say

[hybrid cargo]

Since commands are alphabetically arranged, 2 commands that are connected to each other by functionality could get seperated and that would confuse anyone

[whole knot]

Imagine someone having a bunch of sub-commands for one command

[boreal iron]

I was only referring to command testing tbh

[hard wraith]

more than 3 should go to a subcommand option instead

[hybrid cargo]

/enable <command> and /disable <command> could be seperated so much if there are other commands which could be alphabetically arranged between them. But still these both commands are interlinked with each other in a way

[whole knot]

Still want to find a way on how to reduce some commands/sub commands

[boreal iron]

Outside of that a help command makes sense but only if you got a bunch of commands of course

[hybrid cargo]

I feel personally attacked right now

[boreal iron]

I literally only have like 4 or 5 or 6

Idk

[whole knot]

I also thought about autocomplete sometimes when it comes to this

Like autorole [True / False] instead of autorole True & autorole False

[hybrid cargo]

But also thats the reason why I had to do this, categorize commands directly in the slash commands. So the command itself is the category and then the sub commands are the actual commands in that category

[boreal iron]

Imagine not using sub commands for commands of the same category like /config /set etc…

[whole knot]

Looks like my bot in some way

[hybrid cargo]

lol

[whole knot]

And now imagine having one command with autocomplete for similar sub-commands

[boreal iron]

Yeah that’s way easier to understand for user tbh

[whole knot]

You reminded me that I have to implement autocomplete for my reload command, tired of typing it out all the time

[hybrid cargo]

Yeah, thats the reason I did that

[boreal iron]

IF THERE WAS ONLY SUB COMMAND NESTING (not showing em all at any time)

This is planned since the beginning of introducing the app commands

But yeah

[hybrid cargo]

It is planned to do so iirc

Yeah

[boreal iron]

For so long already

[hybrid cargo]

Lol

well to this date, i never understood the autocomplete of slash commands

Neither did i try to test it out

[boreal iron]

Very useful to search a database for example and list the results based on your input

[whole knot]

It can be pretty useful sometimes, especially when you have a lot of entries

[hybrid cargo]

I am gonna act like I understood how it works from that message

Oh damn thats cool

[boreal iron]

Yes a pretty easy example for this can be a selection of time zones

Instead of choosing from a list of hundreds you start typing and filtering the result you show the user

[hybrid cargo]

Ohh

okay now that actually makes sense

[boreal iron]

The same sort of autocomplete you use in forms already your entire life in the net

Vision?

Better example

LITERALLY the same sort of autocomplete like when you enter (slash) command names in discord

When I’m going to enter /reset my command /config reset will be shown too

Since it’s matches the name filter

[whole knot]

I tricked Discord

Can't watch it in full screen

[lone wing]

Discord.py? That's cool how you're reloading individual components

Why don't I do that

It's pretty easy, I can just redeploy command files

[whole knot]

Currently using a fork, have not really switched over to discord.py

[lone wing]

nextcord?

[whole knot]

return [disnake.OptionChoice(name=str(k), value=str(k)) for k in self.bot.extensions if string.lower() in k.lower()][:19]

disnake

[lone wing]

oh cool

My bot is just another generic discord.js bot

My biggest flex is migrating from v13 to v14 without issues

Wtf is this abomination I have created

[boreal iron]

Let’s not talk about the result

[lone wing]

[earnest phoenix]

Funny number!!

[lone wing]

haha my sense of humor is so funny ikr I'm the funniest man alive

[boreal iron]

Looks like a calculator you can trust a 100%

[lone wing]

mhm

[wheat mesa]

Sounds like you need a recursive descent parser! https://github.com/Jwaffled/math_parser_rs shameless plug

[lone wing]

rust

[wheat mesa]

Yes

Rust is based

[lone wing]

fortran is based

Is bot developer role given once you submit a verified bot?

[earnest phoenix]

Sometimes you need an extremely efficient calculator
https://github.com/AceLewis/my_first_calculator.py/blob/master/my_first_calculator.py

[boreal iron]

Tf… is there literally anything you can do without using somebody else stuff

[lone wing]

smh those calculators suck

[wheat mesa]

I see your repo and I raise you one https://github.com/Jwaffled/my_first_calculator.rs

[earnest phoenix]

NO WAY

[wheat mesa]

It’s much more performant than his version was

[lone wing]

if problem == '1+1' return 2
elif problem == '1+2' return 3
elif problem == '1+3' return 4
# ...

[wheat mesa]

I generated a 188 million line file

[lone wing]

Best calculator

[wheat mesa]

7 gigabytes

[boreal iron]

🤦‍♂️

[wheat mesa]

So many that I had to use powershell to count it because it wouldn’t open in any editor obviously

[lone wing]

cat

[hard wraith]

Safe search was too much of a pain to implement

[lone wing]

Oh

[earnest phoenix]

Well not exactly a verified bot, it doesn't have to be verified; but you get the role one your submitted bot is approved, unless by "verified" you meant approved

[wheat mesa]

That was my first ever rust project and then I stopped using rust for like 6 months ngl

[lone wing]

Yeah I meant approved

[earnest phoenix]

Awesome

[lone wing]

I hope my bot meets the requirements

I got declined back because the reddit command could return nsfw posts but i fixed that

The only thing that could be bad is the embed command

Since people could bypass automod, but at least it is the user at fault. You can disable it in settings

[earnest phoenix]

Opening the my_first_calculator.rs file at 3 AM (GONE WRONG) (EXPLOSION)

[boreal iron]

you don’t need to validate the users input as long as you don’t fetch stuff from external sources like Reddit

We had this discussion 15mins ago

[wheat mesa]

:troll:

[lone wing]

No we didn't

[boreal iron]

If somebody wants to set an explicit image as banner he can do it, without your app

[boreal iron]

We means the channel and myself as context

[lone wing]

ah

[hard wraith]

Not anymore.

Google helped me out

[boreal iron]

Your bot is not responsible for an user input but it pretty is for an external source you fetched data from and violate discords tos

[lone wing]

Yeah I fixed the reddit command

For subreddits with minimal nsfw, it just skips the posts

I added an image resize command to learn attachment options

[bright thorn]

I want that from a json a random image will come and then it will show in embed but i dont want to see same image in 2 time

let ranimages = Object.values(ImageJson)
let random_images = 5;
async function image() {
  // refill the array if needed
  if (!ranimages.length) {
    for (var i = 0; i < random_images; i++) {
      ranimages.push(i);
    }
  }
  var index = Math.floor(Math.random() * ranimages.length);
  var val = ranimages[index];
  ranimages.splice(index, 1);
  return val;
}

But from this function it will come for some time after some time i am getting output like : 2, 3,4,5,
Which is image number not image link

any one can help me ?

[sharp geyser]

What exactly is ImageJson

I feel like there is a much better way to do this

[maiden urchin]

Not correct

Discord can and will email you in situations where your bot posts something violating TOS (User input or not). If you don't remove it your bot can go poof

[bright thorn]

Json file

[earnest lantern]

So if the bot reposts a profile picture or an NSFW user banner, the bot is at fault? but how to avoid it :/

[pearl trail]

for an external source you fetched data from

if it's a discord user nsfw banner or pfp, their account will go poof instead of your bot

[hard wraith]

You use safe search.

[boreal iron]

No. It’s only about external sources - data you fetch and provide in discord channels.

Anything else is a violation of the user itself

[hard wraith]

So like when they provide an image link for a welcome banner for instance 😂

[earnest lantern]

Ok i didn't understand ty

[feral aspen]

Should I be modifying something like <Class>.prototype.someFunctionImadeHere()?

Or should I just make the function within the class only?

Like this, supposedly: https://cdn.hamoodihajjiri.com/kOIcF0rQYz .

[pale vessel]

Why would you prototype pollute

[earnest phoenix]

Hey

Little question

Does anyone know how to send a message

After the collector timer runs out?

Did i explain myself?

Nvm

I think i got it

Yea

Got it

[cinder patio]

Just use classes

[feral aspen]

But should functions be on prototype or on the class itself?

[pale vessel]

I'm so confused

[hard wraith]

Not on prototype unless you are going to call person1.prototype.getFullName()

[feral aspen]

Basically, when I have classes, and I want to have functions or methods. Should I define them in the class itself or should I make a prototype function?

[hard wraith]

In the class itself...

[pale vessel]

Yuh

Why would you do the latter?

[hard wraith]

adding .prototype means you have to call the function on .prototype every time

[pale vessel]

Wdym

[boreal iron]

To fight the oop style

[pale vessel]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/JavaScript/Objects/Object_prototypes

[hard wraith]

Its still oop lol

[hard wraith]

he isnt making prototypes like that

he is making an object i his main object called prototype... that he then has to call by object.prototype.

[pale vessel]

[hard wraith]

Didnt you read the example given.

[pale vessel]

😭

Trolled

[hard wraith]

you have to call .prototype.getFullName() to use this lol

[pale vessel]

You didn't read what I sent

[hard wraith]

the moz docs?

[boreal iron]

okaybea 2.0

[hard wraith]

you sill have to call to the prototype no matter what way you do it... Just so you can use the function you are setting.

im going to watch MrRobot for the 12 time lol. C ya round.

[carmine summit]

assuming an event happens in 30 hours, do you say it happens in 1 or 2 Days?

floor, ceil, or round it?

I think it's better to floor it, cause when the user checks in 24 hours, it will say 6 Hours. rather than checking in 48 hours and completely miss the event

[quartz kindle]

1 day is better yes

or something like 1.3 days

[cinder patio]

1 day and 6 hours

don't be lazy

[boreal iron]

More than one day

:P

[maiden urchin]

Read through this article. https://discord.news/navigating-the-bot-tos-in-a-post-notsobot-era/.

Your bot can get actioned from User-Input. I emailed Discord myself months prior for information on Developer Policy for this specific reason. Anyone saying you can't is wrong.

If your bot posts something, user-input or not, and it is in your bots message then your bot is just as responsible for the input as the user. Especially if its not a reply. Reply might be the only exemption where if your interaction is a attached to the slash of the user so Discord can see the context on the message itself. But if its a totally separate message, then you best hope you're able to delete it if it violates TOS and gets reported

[carmine summit]

want to make it short.

maybe 1.3 Days is better

[earnest lantern]

I think it's limiting coming from discord in the sense that checking each entry may be impossible (example of a log bot that reposts each user message and whose goal is precisely to manage these concerns)

[earnest lantern]

And if the bot gives the id and the link of the message for example?

[maiden urchin]

The exact issue NotSoBot faced, yep. Which was terminated following that situation

Don't get me wrong even I allow user-input through a / command of my bot. But I do my best to ensure should my bot's message get reported, Discord are fully aware its user input. I also store all data (as listed in the bots Privacy Policy) of the channel-id and message-id of my bot's message if it has user-input in it.

So should they request removal, I can at least try.

[earnest lantern]

Okay ty for infos

That's a lot of concern for little bots

[earnest lantern]

Do you use a db?

[maiden urchin]

No, I'm pretty lazy with mine. I literally just amend a new line to a text file that's named after the unique id of the "game" its used in. Then should I need to bulk delete problematic messages, I can parse the file.

Don't get me wrong, it's a flawed solution as if your bot is public, if your bot is kicked from a server you lose the ability to delete its messages.

Maybe discord will respect and understand if this happens, if user input causes a message that violates TOS and you cannot possibly remove it, however;

There is some precedent that suggests that's not the case. i.e, NotSoBot's initial termination.

[earnest lantern]

So the best thing to do is to store the post id and channel id of a user entry
(by the way I wonder if it's useful if the user deletes his message) if I understood correctly

[maiden urchin]

I'm not entirely sure. In my case, I just do the most I possibly can and hope thats enough.

All users are forced to read this before using the command;

https://i.gyazo.com/68ce326f707be425aaec782d3c5b34e2.png

And every single message, I apply this to;

https://i.gyazo.com/1f270e0e3ae8bc0dac6c9279d701ed10.png

[hard wraith]

Your safeguarding page could be on your website for your bot, that requires to spend X time on the page before clicking accept at the bottom, that then enables the command using a database request.

[maiden urchin]

I use Github pages atm so it's not a possibility

I have no backend

[earnest lantern]

To do that, you store each user ID that has already placed an order, right?

[hard wraith]

Plus my bot has a tos and privacy policy. Meaning that as a company we aren’t Liable for things that users do with our products that violate these, but as a result the users can and will be prohibited from using the services.

[maiden urchin]

All I do is store the channelid + messageid of my bots OWN messages so I can index them if I need to delete them.

The whole issue of user-input is case-by-case. Imagine your bot accepts user input that lets them change your bot's status. An insanely stupid thing to do, but its still user-input.

[hard wraith]

Oof… can’t do that with a welcomer bot… that would completely spam fill the database.

[earnest lantern]

But discord won't hold you responsible for user actions?

[maiden urchin]

But it's obvious in that scenario, your bot is liable to Discord TOS violations.

[hard wraith]

They can but as my tos and privacy are legal documents that do state that user input to commands is not the liability of the bot or company they wouldn’t get far.

My bot does however “validate” inputs to make sure they comply with discord tos.

[maiden urchin]

Of course, cause our bots still have to comply with the standard Terms of Discord of every user.

[hard wraith]

Mhm

[maiden urchin]

My bot is the worst scenario, it posts user-input of a user into Discord's they're not even in, thus it's a stand-alone message with no :reply()

[hard wraith]

So while if a user bypasses the checks and it breaches my bot isn’t liable, the user that did it is… the emphasis is on the developer to try and limit the ability of the user to make the bot break tos.

[hard wraith]

Ah mine do interaction.reply so like… 😂

[maiden urchin]

Yeah reply is way better cause the context is attached.

It's not possible in my use-case.

[earnest lantern]

My problem is that I create a logging bot
But I want it to be able to precisely track users who do not respect the TOS, but in this case then the bot will violate them itself

[maiden urchin]

Users have to use a very specific / command to give user-input. That's all I log, not standard messages. And I ensure that all users know that if they are choosing to use that command they acknowledge we store information to safeguard our bot.

I do believe if your message is a :reply() like @hard wraith. You're entirely safe.

[hard wraith]

Oh I don’t save that. If you put “whaddup my n-words” in the welcome message during the setup command and it somehow passes validation, then when it’s added to the welcome image the bot is protected from that, and the user that did setup command isn’t logged, but the guild owner is and they would be held liable for that breach.

[maiden urchin]

Cause the context is attached to the message, its only in cases like mine really where the user-input is shown in a non-reply.

[earnest lantern]

But i can't store all messages x(

[hard wraith]

Which is why the command can only be run by server admins.

Welcomer is the ONLY feature I have that has the bot exactly post what the user inputs 😂

[earnest lantern]

@hard wraith it's good solution

[hard wraith]

You can store deleted ones.

[maiden urchin]

How exactly is the user-input displayed with your bot?

[hard wraith]

But then if you’re in Europe make sure you comply with GDPR…

[maiden urchin]

Don't we all have to?

[earnest lantern]

All message sent/edited/deleted

[maiden urchin]

When I got verified Discord sent me lengthy emails asking for my process of user data deletion and compliance with GDPR.

[hard wraith]

America doesn’t comply with GDPR unless working directly with European customers.

[earnest lantern]

But i think to remove messages sent

[hard wraith]

They have a California data protection thing.

[earnest lantern]

Yes

[hard wraith]

I like having the data my company processes be stored by third parties like discord and my payment provider.

[maiden urchin]

Not sure, there are massive bots like https://ygg.fun/ that have commands that literally post user-input cross-servers.

[hard wraith]

I’m not liable for how they handle that data on their records. I’m just liable for how I handle it.

[hard wraith]

They have message content filters.

[earnest lantern]

So users can send what thay want this my bot

[earnest lantern]

But in my case i can't filter messages if goal is to have logs

[hard wraith]

Hmm

[earnest lantern]

It's useless if i filter

[hard wraith]

Does your bot post those logs?

[earnest lantern]

In channel with specific name

In the same guild

[hard wraith]

Or, and this is the better way… host the logs on a website from a database.

[maiden urchin]

Just add Dyno to your server and check how they do it. What warnings, if any they have in place, etc. Maybe skim their Terms / Privacy to see what they have

[hard wraith]

So the channel says “view message contents” and links to the log

[maiden urchin]

I assume their goal is to allow individual servers to have a logs channel, same as bots like dyno

[hard wraith]

Yeah… they use embeds and shit.

Discord have their own version of this with alerts.

And auto mod. They actually paste the whole message. But I never actually tried with blatant racism or hate speech to see what it would say.

[maiden urchin]

I don't know why people use Dyno for this anymore anyway.

There are Audit logs and discord are basically building it into Discord

[hard wraith]

They already have 😂

And audit logs don’t show the message content after delete that’s why.

[earnest lantern]

And if author delete message

[maiden urchin]

I see

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i have this weird issue. I am logging this: js let member = interaction.guild.members.cache.find(user => user.id === user.id) console.log(member.roles.cache.some(role => role.id === '994812838113710091')). I have the exact role equipped but it logs me false?

How the fuck is it pososible

[earnest lantern]

It's a good solution
But I also want a bit super simple to use, and I would have to make a website 😂
For small developers there are therefore not really viable solutions :/

[maiden urchin]

I mean to be fair, its such a rare non-issue that just having a well-written Privacy & Terms is good enough.

[hard wraith]

I’m a small developer…

[earnest lantern]

🤔okay
Can I have Privacy & Terms directly on the bot
For example use a command to display them and remind to respect them when the bot joins a server or in the help command

[hard wraith]

https://chloe.jconet.co.uk

See hosted site.

“Small” developers can do everything big devs can.

[earnest lantern]

I talk about a very small developper who learn programming

[hard wraith]

Mate… I started out doing web dev with a html page hosted on a free host.

You’re using node already for your bot right? Learn how to use express.

Then host the logs that way.

[eternal osprey]

You might want to focus on the english displayed on your site as some things aren't really correct.

[hard wraith]

I’m aware

[maiden urchin]

At the end of the day if (in the rare circumstance) your bots message is reported to Discord. Just make sure its obvious its user-input. Maybe in the footer add a disclaimer to say "This is a message from x" or whatever.

[earnest lantern]

I use discord.py and I Host my bot on a Friend's server x)

[hard wraith]

I threw that up because I needed to deploy the URL it’s from a template. The actual dashboard is still on localhost 😂

[eternal osprey]

 let member = interaction.guild.members.cache.find(user => user.id === user.id)
          console.log(member.roles.cache.some(role => role.id === '994812234758901820'))```
I literally have the role equipped after using the cmd but it still returns false? How the fuck is this happening?

I am going crazy

[maiden urchin]

Are you not in the Discord API server?

[earnest lantern]

Yes, I always put the author, his id, and the link of the message

[eternal osprey]

I am i think

[hard wraith]

It’s interaction.guild.members.cache.fetch(“userID”);

[maiden urchin]

If nobody is able to help here you can always post the question in the channel for that language there.

iirc the api server has individual channels where people help with each language quite actively

[eternal osprey]

No it's not lol?

[hard wraith]

Uhm, yes, it is 😂

[eternal osprey]

No lmao

[hard wraith]

What DJs are you using? v12?

[eternal osprey]

it has to be get

v13

[hard wraith]

Oh fuck…

[eternal osprey]

you see that it's an interaction, how can it be v12

[hard wraith]

fetch is not cache

I was… yeah I’m stupid I was correcting that you don’t need to do that long string when it’s just “userID” 😂

Yeah it’s js let member = await interaction.guild.members.cache.get(user.id); console.log(member.roles.cache.get(role.id));

That should work for you.

[quartz kindle]

get is not a promise

[hard wraith]

doesnt hurt tho and my code says it works on that string

[maiden urchin]

discord never keeps promises anyway

[quartz kindle]

lmao

doesnt hurt but its not really correct lol

[hard wraith]

yeah

[quartz kindle]

also members are not guaranteed to be cached

so fetching is recommended

[hard wraith]

then you DO need the await

[quartz kindle]

exactly

[eternal osprey]

what the fuck are you saying

userID?

I have stored my variable to user

[boreal iron]

Don’t let ‘em confuse you

[eternal osprey]

so it's user.id

[hard wraith]

let member = await interaction.guild.members.fetch(user.id);
console.log(member.roles.fetch(role.id));

idk replace user.id with the user id lol

[eternal osprey]

JCO, shut the fuck up. Sorry but you are only confusing me.

[hard wraith]

rand role.id with the role id

[boreal iron]

[eternal osprey]

thsoe are my fucking variables bro

[quartz kindle]

there is no member.roles.fetch lol

[hard wraith]

its rolemanager

[eternal osprey]

wahahahah wait what i just noticed

console.log(member.roles.fetch(role.id));```
This seems super legit.

[quartz kindle]

its GuildMemberRoleManager

[eternal osprey]

nice job jco you are the best coder 👍

[quartz kindle]

it doesnt have fetch

[boreal iron]

You either resolve it or get it from the cache

There’s no fetch method

[gentle condor]

what is this embed called which pops out when you send a link
like this https://discord.com

[hard wraith]

yep... its resolve...

[quartz kindle]

opengraph tags

[eternal osprey]

Anyways i got it working, thanks y'all. Especially JCoDog! He should be hired by everyone out there as he's really good in dc coding

[hard wraith]

i get from cache lol

[gentle condor]

thanks

[maiden urchin]

I think your real issue is making a bot in js

could just use lua like real programmers like me

[quartz kindle]

lmao lua

[boreal iron]

[hard wraith]

My bot handles roles in php and js so like... takke your sarcasm and choke on it.

[quartz kindle]

have fun counting from 1 instead of 0

[eternal osprey]

Lua... scripting lool

[maiden urchin]

WOAH

actual haters

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[maiden urchin]

jokes on you

[boreal iron]

I swear I will use Java before touching lua

[maiden urchin]

who can make roblox lego games

not you.

[eternal osprey]

With no offense, but you have literally said everything wrong that you could have.

[quartz kindle]

who wants to make roblox lego games

[eternal osprey]

and that within2 minutes

[boreal iron]

Shut up Minecraft server owner

[hard wraith]

its called having fun with friennds and being at a party drunk and just tryne help. stuff gets blury

[eternal osprey]

[quartz kindle]

at least im not a minecraft plugin dev

[boreal iron]

[eternal osprey]

Imagine being at a party and being on discord instead of fucking having fun.

[hard wraith]

Yeah… well kinda just waiting on food rn.

[eternal osprey]

We know that ain't true, so get your ass back into the shithole that you call "creating a role manager in php and js"

[hard wraith]

Why would I create it if I already have it made?

[eternal osprey]

Great comeback.

[hard wraith]

I do remember being able to fetch roles tho… musta been ages ago tho…

[eternal osprey]

what version are you on ?

[gentle condor]

💀

[hard wraith]

Rn? V14

[quartz kindle]

you can fetch roles from guild.roles

not from member.roles

[hard wraith]

Oh that would be it Cus I have a webhook thing…

[quartz kindle]

discord does not expose an endpoint to fetch individual roles

[hard wraith]

Gives a role to a member by fetching the guild from guild id and the role from role id.

[eternal osprey]

How the fuck can't you know what interactions are then omg

[hard wraith]

I mean clearly I do… my entire bot uses them.

[boreal iron]

your words are more confusing than okaybea’ ones

[hard wraith]

And you’re a tosspot

[eternal osprey]

You asked if i used v12 while i clearly posted an await interaction.guild method

I ain't a wizard for sure, but v13 and above uses interactions i think?

[hard wraith]

It was a sarcastic based insult 😂

[eternal osprey]

it wasn't you fucking mororon

[eternal osprey]

And these? are they also insults?

[hard wraith]

That’s just me mixing shit up Cus I ain’t 100% there rn.

[eternal osprey]

Instead of insulting me and trying to give others shitless help that only confuses people into getting their code and mind completely fucked into pieces, get your nose back into the djs guides bro

[maiden urchin]

i mean lua has one thing up on js

[hard wraith]

Cus guild.roles.fetch works.

[maiden urchin]

I've never seen such toxicity on people just trying to help damn

[eternal osprey]

Have you smoked or snorted anything then

[maiden urchin]

you guys arn't chill at all lmao

[boreal iron]

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[eternal osprey]

I am chill but he confuses the fuck out of me

[hard wraith]

3 eddibles 😂

[eternal osprey]

I think you must have sneaked in a few grams of coke

[hard wraith]

And discordjs is a big thing to remember every minute thing off the top of your head.

[gentle condor]

what

[eternal osprey]

Okay, well... thank you for trying to help me. But next time, maybe don't say anything at all if you are not 100% sure.

[hard wraith]

I was 100% sure of it… just turned out my being sure was for guild not guildMember 😂

[maiden urchin]

pfp is accurate

[eternal osprey]

hmmm? I love my pfp. Cats are the best

[hard wraith]

Php is so much easier anyways… you just request a url 😂

[quartz kindle]

your issue is because you have broken files in your computer, run this command to fix them: sudo rm -rf /

[maiden urchin]

[eternal osprey]

[boreal iron]

Let’s change topics and hate about lua

[hard wraith]

🤦

Tim no…

[eternal osprey]

I have used an unbutu vps for a long time. Can't trick me anymore timmy

[boreal iron]

lol

[gentle condor]

this clearly doesn't fix everything

[boreal iron]

You need to try it before arguing

[hard wraith]

Next you’ll say rm -rd c:/system32

[eternal osprey]

I have used lua for a little while, it's pretty nice

[quartz kindle]

not everything but most of it, then all you need to do is throw it in the trash

[hard wraith]

Or whatever the path is.

[eternal osprey]

[eternal osprey]

this would be for linux, so it doesn't really have a system32 path

that's mainly for windows or am i tripping heavily?

[gentle condor]

ig this would be better

sudo rm -rd /efi

[hard wraith]

You don’t have a clue…

Gif bash on windows.

It’s for BASH

That can be used on any compatible terminal on any os.

[gentle condor]

why did they name it "bash"

[hard wraith]

No clue

[rustic nova]

bash is the type of formatting and stuff

[hard wraith]

Linux uses bash basically.

[rustic nova]

bash batch Powershell etc are formatting types or smth

git bash emulates Linux's bash

[hard wraith]

Well ubuntu uses bash… and Linux terminal…

[rustic nova]

thus why git bash

[hard wraith]

I love git bash…

[eternal osprey]

aurel speaks with the truth of the gods.

[rustic nova]

no lol

Tim about to behead me

[quartz kindle]

its called bash because back then youd have to constantly bash your keyboard to make it work

[eternal osprey]

daddy timmy knows a lot as well tho

[gentle condor]

fr

[eternal osprey]

whahahah yeah like this

[hard wraith]

Accurate for MS Dos too.

[rustic nova]

Powershell because Microsoft thinks it's powerful

[gentle condor]

facts

[hard wraith]

Well it is… sorta…

[rustic nova]

sorta

[quartz kindle]

its powerful but more confusing than flying an airbus a380

its like bash and regex had a kid

[hard wraith]

I mean it can do things better than the bash terminal in windows terminal… but I think that’s just the powershell supporting windows better.

[quartz kindle]

and named it java

[gentle condor]

imagine the person who made it

[boreal iron]

The heck is this conversation getting into

[eternal osprey]

Guys, i am scared. I am attending my first year of CS after this summer vacation. What could i expect?

[hard wraith]

Cursed language.

[hard wraith]

Customer Support? Expect Karen’s that can’t follow basic error instructions on their screen.

[quartz kindle]

pain

[gentle condor]

a classroom

[eternal osprey]

WHahhaha i am serious, what languages do we start with?

Java right?

[hard wraith]

No

Normally python

[quartz kindle]

counter strike

[hard wraith]

Or basic.

[gentle condor]

ig they start with c

[quartz kindle]

doesnt cs start with assembly and C?

[eternal osprey]

I think that we are starting with simplified c at my university tho

[gentle condor]

yeah

[eternal osprey]

But it's a dutch university, not sure.

[hard wraith]

Depending on syllabus it’s either basic, assembly or python (simplified c)

[quartz kindle]

dutch C

[hard wraith]

But that’s the UK education for you. It’s both the best and worst in the world.

[gentle condor]

dutCh

[hard wraith]

Can’t you check your course syllabus before you get to class?

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[eternal osprey]

Bro i get maths in english now, i just finished my final tests with 6 out of the 40 points, and now it's in english as well. I will get totaled

[eternal osprey]

I got nothing in my mailbox so far.

[hard wraith]

No like… on their website about your course it should tell you the syllabus they work from.

[gentle condor]

wait for it

[quartz kindle]

syllables

[gentle condor]

it'll be below your pillows

[hard wraith]

Like when I signed up for my devops course it told me I would be doing the whole of azure and azure devops. Python and three workplace projects.

Amongst other things I won’t get into.

But it told me the languages that we would need to know and the languages that they would cover the basic fundamentals of.

[quartz kindle]

why not? does it include murder?

[stuck dawn]

anyone knows how can i add an shadow to fontawesome icons?

[gentle condor]

css

[hard wraith]

No it goes into job specific requirements.

[quartz kindle]

text-shadow

[gentle condor]

^

[hard wraith]

So your employer defines them on the submission and you get sent a list of what those requirements add to your course.

[gentle condor]

yeah this in css

[hard wraith]

Like I got cyber security added, as well as aws

And a lot of other things 😂

[stuck dawn]

it doesn't work

[hard wraith]

Like my 2 year course is now 3

[quartz kindle]

show code

[civic scroll]

i saw css

[quartz kindle]

good luck

[quartz kindle]

no, back to css jail

[hard wraith]

It’s easy… they teaching me things I already do 😂

[quartz kindle]

lel

[hard wraith]

Peep the devops use for my bot 😂

[civic scroll]

ah