development

[boreal iron]

soon message counter goes brrr

[wooden ember]

didnt think you could still have detailed info like that anymore cuz of caching

[boreal iron]

tf he's recording anything

[wheat mesa]

https://github.com/NotSoBot/notsobot.ts

[boreal iron]

why do I want to know the amount of events

lmao

just because it "looks" fancy

[wheat mesa]

it's just stats

[boreal iron]

hmm... why not

[wooden ember]

bruh by bot has this command lol

mmm yes fan speed

[quartz kindle]

nice

[wheat mesa]

https://github.com/NotSoBot/notsobot.ts/blob/master/src/commands/prefixed/utils/usage.ts here's the command that I used

[boreal iron]

I better don’t ask why people need to know your Radeon temperature

Also don’t wanna talk about using AMD

Can’t take this seriously

[quartz kindle]

if my bot uses 130mb at 9k servers, would it use 130gb at 9 million servers?

[wooden ember]

lol its cuz the fans gone bad has a shitty bit of mettle on it

[wheat mesa]

so close to finishing my interpreter in rust but I'm lowkey burnt out after writing 2k+ loc in like 6 hours total working time

[boreal iron]

Yes makes sense, all servers have a similar amount of channels, members etc.

Everyone knows that

[wooden ember]

other than that its the only gpu i have to put in it, it only uses like 6 watts since its an hd5450

[boreal iron]

Tim…

[quartz kindle]

takes me 2 months to write 2k loc

im lazy afk

[wheat mesa]

I had help from a github repo

Using it to learn

[quartz kindle]

i work 2 hours per week

lmao

[boreal iron]

We know but it’s also too hot

[wheat mesa]

I'm lazy asf, I just randomly got motivation to work on this like a week ago

[quartz kindle]

nice

[wheat mesa]

wrote the whole parser in one day lmao

[quartz kindle]

random motivation bursts are awesome

[wheat mesa]

sadly it's ended

[quartz kindle]

rip

[wheat mesa]

almost 1k

[wooden ember]

same randomly desided to put a command handler into my test bot

works real well now though

can reload commands and stuff withought having to restart the bot

epic

[wheat mesa]

I'm glad I didn't have to fuck around with lifetimes too much

[quartz kindle]

nice

[wheat mesa]

imagine being able to do that

I can't

esm moment

[wooden ember]

big sad

honestly suprised i havent done this sooner

cuz now if a commands broken cuz i typed somthing wrong like an idiot then it wont crash the whole bot

[boreal iron]

error handling the thing you usually start with

[wheat mesa]

ngl rust is amazing

[boreal iron]

[wheat mesa]

look at how easy it is to represent the entire structure of my language: ```rs
#[derive(Debug, Clone)]
pub enum Expr {
Literal(Literal),
This(SourceLocation),
Unary(UnaryOp, Box<Expr>),
Binary(Box<Expr>, BinaryOp, Box<Expr>),
Logical(Box<Expr>, LogicalOpType, Box<Expr>),
Call(Box<Expr>, SourceLocation, Vec<Expr>),
Get(Box<Expr>, Symbol),
Grouping(Box<Expr>),
Variable(Symbol),
Assign(Symbol, Box<Expr>),
Set(Box<Expr>, Symbol, Box<Expr>),
Super(SourceLocation, Symbol),
}

#[derive(Debug, Clone)]
pub enum Stmt {
Expr(Expr),
FunDecl(FunDecl),
ClassDecl(ClassDecl),
If(Expr, Box<Stmt>, Option<Box<Stmt>>),
Print(Expr),
VarDecl(Symbol, Option<Expr>),
Block(Vec<Stmt>),
Return(SourceLocation, Option<Expr>),
While(Expr, Box<Stmt>),
}

[earnest phoenix]

@wheat mesa do u know any good scrambler and unscrambler

[wheat mesa]

no

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[wheat mesa]

like a Caesar cypher?

[wooden ember]

it tryed that but it never worked

ironically

[wheat mesa]

look that up, I'm sure there's something out there for it

[earnest phoenix]

I couldnt find and npm package for that :(

would be nice to have but theres none ig

[wheat mesa]

make your own

[earnest phoenix]

maybe

[wheat mesa]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/caesar-shift first result

[earnest phoenix]

oh

[wheat mesa]

it's old but so is the caesar cipher

[earnest phoenix]

I looked up for the wrong tag then

used "scrambler"

[earnest phoenix]

this looks great

[wheat mesa]

it's pretty easy to make your own as well

[earnest phoenix]

exactly what I want tbh, maybe with more customization

[boreal iron]

You just await /catch all promises and additionally add an error handler for the process to catch uncatched errors

[wooden ember]

i do that

[boreal iron]

If your command handler try’s/catches the executing of your command you don’t need to catch any promise you’re using inside

Just await them

[wooden ember]

did that too

wait

[boreal iron]

And what sort of errors did your bot crash then?

[wooden ember]

typos and just code not working

[boreal iron]

That’s what the top level error handler is for catching any unhandled exception

[wheat mesa]

lol this caesar cipher implementation is a little dumb

"one file for each function!"

I mean really

cmon

[wooden ember]

so i dont have to .catch all my message send events if they are in a command file?

[boreal iron]

Some sort of hardstyle structure enforcement

[wheat mesa]

75% of the functions aren't even really his code

it's just him re-exporting native js functions under his own function name

[boreal iron]

Not if you already use try/catch in your command handler when calling your command

But you still need to await any promise

Or the tracelog won’t be much helpful

[wooden ember]

bruh i spent ages catching all the errors

reeeeeeee

[boreal iron]

Well doing that in the command handler also has the advantage to know when executing your module has failed

[sharp geyser]

fun fact, it doesn't matter

[wooden ember]

true

[boreal iron]

If you catch an error inside the module the command handler will@never know

[wooden ember]

i mean it logs it so its not in vain

[near stratus]

@boreal iron thanks for the suggestion
apparently raw message / embeds count as xxxxPayload type
now everything works fine

[boreal iron]

If just one guy stops using builders my life makes sense

[near stratus]

[boreal iron]

I don’t try to move Waffle into this direction anymore

[wheat mesa]

looking good

[boreal iron]

After using Java, now Rust he’s completely out of control anyways

[sharp geyser]

Nice

[wheat mesa]

wrong

[sharp geyser]

Well rust is just good

[wheat mesa]

rust is based

[boreal iron]

Out of control like I said

[wheat mesa]

have you guys seen https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/

[sharp geyser]

Who hasn't

[boreal iron]

Damn… PSU inlet temperature is just 7° away from its critical temperature

[wheat mesa]

I want it

[sharp geyser]

They'd be living under a rock if they hadn't

Fleet is like jetbrains version of vscode

[wheat mesa]

yes

I want it

for rusting

[sharp geyser]

It's coming soon

[wheat mesa]

but I hope it has good plugin support

[sharp geyser]

I think it's in closed beta

[wheat mesa]

because I can't give up rust-analyzer

[sharp geyser]

It's jetbrains watfle

They pretty much led plugin support

[wheat mesa]

rust analyzer is amazing though

so they better have it or something better

[boreal iron]

You mean like something better than notepad++ exists?

[sharp geyser]

Well either they will make the plugin or someone else will

[wheat mesa]

notepad++ is just torture

no autocomplete 😔

[sharp geyser]

Hey waffle you could make the plugin

[boreal iron]

Yeah god thanks it hasn’t

I go crazy anytime I use an editor which has it

[steady tide]

Hi I’m new in this server

[boreal iron]

Randomly placing end parentheses and brackets where I don’t want ‘em

[near stratus]

would be easier to build a whole editor

[steady tide]

Hi I’m new in this server

[boreal iron]

We know

[sharp geyser]

Are you on something?

[boreal iron]

You already told us that

[sharp geyser]

That doesn't correlate at all

[wheat mesa]

you're saying you don't like this???

[boreal iron]

Nah I don’t know… I don’t like it tbh

[sharp geyser]

I could never get rust analyzer to work

[wheat mesa]

cus ur noob

[sharp geyser]

He's old waffle

[boreal iron]

lmao

[sharp geyser]

He likes guessing what shit does

[near stratus]

building an editor with electron is kinda easy
the autocomplete is hard tho

[boreal iron]

I just like to enter any char myself and lookup the parameter order of my functions

[sharp geyser]

I feel a plugin for an already existing editor is easier to make

But ok

[steady tide]

I want to leave this sever en never be in it

[wheat mesa]

making the text area is easy, making literally the other 99% isn't

[sharp geyser]

Do it

[wheat mesa]

then leave..?

2011... he's 11!

[near stratus]

for vsc: okay
for jetbrains: need some work
for notepad++: nope

[boreal iron]

Press the big red “delete account” button to leave the server

[wheat mesa]

he's alr gone

[boreal iron]

There we go

[sharp geyser]

I don't consider notepad++ an editor

I only use it to quickly look at my code

[boreal iron]

Can’t complain… there are quite some useful tools and overlays

But yeah probably nothing to compare it to known editors

[near stratus]

the only useful thing is the copy line thing

[boreal iron]

Is this sort of… editorcism? I mean it isn’t racism obviously

Tbh I just don’t wanna switch as I don’t wanna deal with all the options and features I have to adjust once or multiple before going crazy

Cuz it doesn’t do what i expect

And I don’t wanna do things differently

you will understand in like 10-20 years

[ancient nova]

    at Object.exports.run (/home/container/commands/whois.js:72:165)
    at module.exports (/home/container/events/messageCreate.js:285:19)

    let slicedRoles = member.roles.cache.filter(r => r.id !== message.guild.id).map(roles => `<@&${roles.id }>`);
    if (slicedRoles.length === 0) slicedRoles.push("None");
    if (slicedRoles.length >= 16 && slicedRoles.length !== 0) slicedRoles = slicedRoles.slice(0, 16) + " and more...";
``` but only for certain people, why is that?

[lyric mountain]

why @&?

[boreal iron]

well join isn’t a function if your slicedRoles isn’t an array

What’s wrong with it?

[lyric mountain]

show where ur calling slicedRoles.join

[boreal iron]

I mean the last time you overwrite slicedRoles it obviously is a string

[ancient nova]

statsEmbed.addField(`Roles (Total of ${slicedRoles.length} Roles)`, slicedRoles.join(", "));
``` now for some reason for the guy that the error popped up it's saying it's got a total of 500 roles? even though he has the same amount as me?

[lyric mountain]

slicedRoles might be null or undefined no?

[ancient nova]

no because when I do slicedRoles then it's working

statsEmbed.addField(`Roles (Total of ${slicedRoles.length} Roles)`, slicedRoles === undefined ? "Could not fetch the roles." : slicedRoles);
``` this worked for the guy that had the error but stopped working for me

and when I add .join it works for me but not for the other guy

what the hell?

[boreal iron]

=== undefined

Ur still using this

What if it’s null?

Told 1 million times already that’s nonsense

[ancient nova]

yeah my bad, still I don't see how that could even be a thing?

[boreal iron]

Only exception is if null is legitimate value

[ancient nova]

it works for everyone BUT that one person?

and he has identical roles to me

[lyric mountain]

when it comes to programming you don't question, you simply try

weird things happen

[ancient nova]

but that's literally not supposed to happen like at all

500 roles when he has 13? something's clearly wrong

[lyric mountain]

not supposed to happen
strange things happen

[boreal iron]

As I said above you map slicedRoles which ends up it will be an array, and if more than 16 roles are a thing you turn it into a string by concating “and 16 more to it”

That’s not really consistent at all

[lyric mountain]

you cant take anything for granted, you need to check all ends

like a solid codebase crashing out of nowhere due to cosmic ray

[boreal iron]

Check if slicedRoles is an array before calling join on it
…length will not replace a check of its type

Since strings also have a length

[wooden ember]

so i have this line in my reload command

delete require.cache[require.resolve(`./${file}`)];

and the way im reloading everything it loads all the file names, unloads the moduals from the command map then re loads them. however if ive added a comand im guessing this will through an error cuz it cant unload somthing thats not loaded in the first place, how would i catch that?

[lyric mountain]

try { } catch { }?

[wooden ember]

really?

thats far simpler than i would have thought

[boreal iron]

Does it cause an error?

I’m not sure

[wooden ember]

havent tryed it yet just guessed

one sec

[boreal iron]

Or does the delete keyword suppress errors if the var or prop doesn’t exist

[wooden ember]

it didnt error

what

the one time i guessed that it would error and it didnt

what strange times we live in

[ancient nova]

statsEmbed.addField(`Roles (Total of ${slicedRoles.length} Roles)`, !slicedRoles ? "None" : (slicedRoles.length >= 16) ? (slicedRoles.slice(0, 16) + " and more...") : slicedRoles.isArray() ? slicedRoles.join(", ") : slicedRoles);
``` lol

wait isn't isArray a thing in js?

[lyric mountain]

const strRoles = Array.isArray(slicedRoles) ? slicedRoles.join(", ") : slicedRoles

[boreal iron]

It’s a global var

Array.isArray(slicedRoles)

[ancient nova]

I have do the isArray check after checking for role length, otherwise it will return the length of the string instead of the array

nvm I gotchu

[lyric mountain]

save it to a variable so u don't have to call the same thing a fuckton of times

[boreal iron]

Would make more sense to just not mix multiple possibles types into one var

Either an array or null

Makes more sense

Even if it just contains one item (role) you can still use join() on it

Which prevents those checks, confusing and inconsistency

[ancient nova]

it appears to work so is it really worth writing more compliacted code

[boreal iron]

lol

[lyric mountain]

technically, it'll be less complicated code

[ancient nova]

more complicated, but more readable I think

[boreal iron]

You just usually make things way more complicated and inconsistent than needed

[ancient nova]

is that going to cause an error if I just leave it like this?

[boreal iron]

As long as the field value is never empty it shouldn’t

[lyric mountain]

technically, no, but getting this habit will lead to coding debts later on which will make maintenance a nightmare

[boreal iron]

But I don’t see your code at all so guessing isn’t really helpful

[boreal iron]

So true

[ancient nova]

just tried this on a user with no roles returned me an error so kek

[ancient nova]

I sent it before ```js
let slicedRoles = member.roles.cache.filter(roles => roles.id !== message.guild.id).map(roles => <@&${roles.id}>);

const statsEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
statsEmbed.setTitle(member.user.tag);
statsEmbed.setThumbnail(member.user.displayAvatarURL());
statsEmbed.setColor(commandColor);
statsEmbed.addField("Status", status[statusResult]);
statsEmbed.addField('Joined On', timeAgo(member.joinedAt));
statsEmbed.addField('Created At', timeAgo(member.user.createdAt));
statsEmbed.addField(`Roles (Total of ${slicedRoles.length} Roles)`, !slicedRoles ? "None" : (slicedRoles.length >= 16) ? (slicedRoles.slice(0, 16) + " and more...") : Array.isArray(slicedRoles) ? slicedRoles.join(", ") : slicedRoles ?? "None");
statsEmbed.addField("Acknowledgements: ", acknowledgments.join(", "));
statsEmbed.addField("Permissions: ", permissions.join(", "));

[boreal iron]

Well it’s actually quite hard to figure stuff out on mobile

[ancient nova]

my bad do you want me to put that into a pastebin

[boreal iron]

Especially in discords code blocks

Pastebin has the same code blocks on mobile as it does use the device size

Hastebin or sourcebin or however all those shitty platforms are called don’t do so

[median ginkgo]

a

[lyric mountain]

MessageEmbed calls can be chained no?

[ancient nova]

what does that mean?

[lyric mountain]

this.is().a().chain()

this
  .is()
  .a()
  .chain()

[boreal iron]

You can call the methods right behind the constructor

Yeah

[wooden ember]

ok nope i got errors this now happens on all commands exept for like two even after restarting

idk what that even means

[ancient nova]

yeah it can

I prefer not to chain it though

[boreal iron]

Well .get() obviously didn’t find your argument in the collection/map

[lyric mountain]

I mean, up to you but using statsEmbed on every line is unnecessary

[boreal iron]

Means execute can’t be called on null/undefined

[wooden ember]

but its there when i log it

[lyric mountain]

well, first of all process ur array and save it to a variable

[wooden ember]

thats the confusing bit

[boreal iron]

Consider to use …has(…) before …get(…)

[wooden ember]

what do you mena?

[boreal iron]

Then make sure execute as module property exists

[ancient nova]

    const slicedRoles = member.roles.cache.filter(roles => roles.id !== message.guild.id).map(roles => `<@&${roles.id}>`);
    const slicedRolesCount = slicedRoles.length;
    const slicedRolesFinal = slicedRoles ? "None" : (slicedRoles.length >= 16) ? (slicedRoles.slice(0, 16) + " and more...") : Array.isArray(slicedRoles) ? slicedRoles.join(", ") : slicedRoles;
    
    const statsEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
    statsEmbed.setTitle(member.user.tag);
    statsEmbed.setThumbnail(member.user.displayAvatarURL());
    statsEmbed.setColor(commandColor);
    statsEmbed.addField("Status", status[statusResult]);
    statsEmbed.addField('Joined On', timeAgo(member.joinedAt));
    statsEmbed.addField('Created At', timeAgo(member.user.createdAt));
    statsEmbed.addField(`Roles (Total of ${slicedRolesCount} Roles)`, !slicedRolesFinal ? "None" : slicedRolesFinal);
    statsEmbed.addField("Acknowledgements: ", acknowledgments.join(", "));
    statsEmbed.addField("Permissions: ", permissions.join(", "));
    return message.channel.send({ embeds: [statsEmbed] });
``` I'm really lazy so sorry for the bad code

[boreal iron]

if(bot.commands.has(command)) bot.commands.get(command).execute()

[ancient nova]

I basically didn't change anything just prevented the error at the end if it's an array but has 0 roles

[wooden ember]

ah i see thx

[boreal iron]

But

It could still be possible execute isn’t existing

[wooden ember]

so its not working on the commands that have async

[boreal iron]

If you didn’t define the property in your exported module

Just to say

[ancient nova]

what's the char limit for fields? 2048?

[lyric mountain]

ye

but embeds also have a global limit

[boreal iron]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/channel#embed-object-embed-limits

[ancient nova]

a global limit?? so each fields can't have 2048?

if you have 2 fields would it be 1024 for each?

[lyric mountain]

not if the sum of everything surpass that limit

fields can have up to 2048 chars

[boreal iron]

The docs are actually very accurate about this question

[lyric mountain]

but the sum of everything in ur embed cant surpass the global limit

[boreal iron]

So a field value can only have a length of 1024

[lyric mountain]

ah, it's footer that has 2048 limit

for some odd reason

[wooden ember]

so the issue was caused by me using async function instead of execute but how do I use async normally?

[boreal iron]

Yeah totally absurdly

Tf you wanna out there if you can’t even use line breaks

The dude who made that decision must have been on crack

And drunk at the same time

I guess

[wooden ember]

uses only the footer so i can have smoll letters

[boreal iron]

The author has a smaller font size as well

And supports a too big icon in comparison to the font size

[wooden ember]

didnt know there was an author field tbh

wait

no i did i just forgot

[lyric mountain]

all I wish is that they separated the body from the thumbnail

so u can have text below the thumbnail space

[boreal iron]

It’s literally just a title with a smaller font size and and icon you can use

I don’t know why that’s missing in the title

[boreal iron]

Yeah true that sucks hards

Wouldn’t be an issue since the thumbnail has a fixed size anyways

[lyric mountain]

how the layout is

how it should be

[boreal iron]

floating yeah

[lyric mountain]

and it aint all that hard, just nest the thumbnail in the author div

[boreal iron]

Or just use float right on it

[lyric mountain]

wouldn't that cause layout issues on small embeds?

[boreal iron]

Well don’t have a inspector tool on mobile

So maybe, maybe not

Not needed to think about it anyways

Won’t ever happen

[ancient nova]

I'm sneezing every 30 seconds help me 😭

[boreal iron]

your body is fighting against your code

I guess

Your nose screams, don’t do it that way, don’t

[opaque acorn]

i cant invite my bot, and i didnt change the link

[lyric mountain]

u supplied an invalid permission bitfield

send here how &permission=XXXXXXX is in ur url

or print it whatever

[opaque acorn]

discord.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=743905769463742554&scope=bot&permissions=989939629303&response_type=code

permission calculator gave me this link

[wooden ember]

thats an odd structure for the link

https://discord.com/api/oauth2/authorize?client_id=743905769463742554&permissions=0&scope=bot

this works but has no perms

[opaque acorn]

ok but how can i solve this button?

[wooden ember]

change the link you put there to the working one

I don't know how the invite button works on the bot profile so I can't help you there

[opaque acorn]

ok

thx

[wooden ember]

np

[lyric mountain]

that permission seems abnormally huge

lemme check if it's a valid bitfield

[wooden ember]

looks like two put together

[lyric mountain]

nah, it's valid

[wooden ember]

bruh at that point just give it admin lol

[lyric mountain]

and be declined on top.gg and lose user trust 👍

[wooden ember]

lol

[lyric mountain]

a thing I noticed, is the response_type=code

that's usually present in oauth2 scopes, not bot scope

[wooden ember]

yeah its also out of order

i just re typed it with the same structure as the link for my bot

[boreal iron]

Out of order?

[opaque acorn]

if i put my permission number in this link it dont work

[lyric mountain]

I don't think url params order matter

since they're unordered like any other map

[wooden ember]

what in the permissions=0 bit?

[lyric mountain]

use discord official calculator

[opaque acorn]

i did

[lyric mountain]

the OFFICIAL?

[boreal iron]

The one in the developer portal?

[lyric mountain]

I mean the one in discord dev dashboard

ye, that

[opaque acorn]

changing 0 with 989939629303

[opaque acorn]

no

[wooden ember]

mmmmm

[lyric mountain]

then use that one

[boreal iron]

i did

Then it hasn’t been an official one

[opaque acorn]

https://discordapi.com/permissions.html

[lyric mountain]

that aint the official

[opaque acorn]

isnt the official?

lol

[lyric mountain]

discord developer portal is the only 100% (?) reliable site

[boreal iron]

I mean

haha | Updated 2021-11-15 |

[lyric mountain]

didn't notice the footer

[boreal iron]

Errm

Not affiliated with Discord

[lyric mountain]

that's outdated af

[boreal iron]

That’s what I wanted to copy

[opaque acorn]

i didnt know that

i always use that calc

so i use this one?

[lyric mountain]

yes

[opaque acorn]

ok

[lyric mountain]

click bot first

the calculator is below that one

[opaque acorn]

ok

works now

thx everyone

[wooden ember]

np

whilst im here how to I make a bot leave using a command handler? cuz idk how to make the vc object global for all the comands to see

or atleas the commands for the vc stuff

[lyric mountain]

just put it at class scope

[wooden ember]

join fine but wont leave thought i could put the variable in one of the execute things but thats doen't seem to work

[wooden ember]

what does that mean

[boreal iron]

I don’t even get the first question

[lyric mountain]

outside of function

[wooden ember]

ok so i have a join command and a leave command join works however leave doent

[boreal iron]

Leaving a guild?

[wooden ember]

vc

on the join side i have but on the leave side i have

bruh that didnt work

anyway idk how to make Join global between command files

since the join command is one file and the leave command is another

[lyric mountain]

...put the variable outside of function scope

[wooden ember]

what does that mean

[lyric mountain]

// outside scope

function blabla() {
  // inside scope
}

[wooden ember]

bruh i have it function reeeeee(Join)

[lyric mountain]

variables at class scope = acessible using <instance>.variable

make it static an u can use <class>.variable

[wooden ember]

basically made the variable in the index file and then passed it through to the msg event file that then makes it accesable to all the other files

in theory

i know i made a bunch of people who can actually code cringe at that

[lyric mountain]

I wonder what yall learn when starting a new lang nowadays

[wheat mesa]

Let’s just make more global state surely it won’t get out of hand Aware

[lyric mountain]

cmon, I'm not that old but in my times that was one of the first 10 things u learned

[wheat mesa]

(Also that was a joke I haven’t read much of what you’re actually doing)

I just saw the words “var” and “accessible to all other files”

[wooden ember]

bruh i never "learned" js i just tinkered with a bot from github and added stuff to it from various guides then made my oen thing from scratch using bits of commands from various things and then just got good enough that i started to do it withought having to look at other peoples code

its been like 2 years

so eh

[lyric mountain]

...

in 2 years u never had the need to declare global variables?

[wooden ember]

tbh i probably know more about d.js than js

[wooden ember]

nope just made single file bots

[lyric mountain]

...

[wooden ember]

i mean i can declare global variables i just dont know hwo to do it in a multiple file situation

my bots arent verry complicated just have a bunch of obscure commands

not like that one pokimon trading bot that was 13000 lines of code in one file

[lyric mountain]

I-Idk what to say, it's a mix of surprise, shock and confusion

[wooden ember]

I am the code redneck

[wheat mesa]

To be fair this is how a lot of people learn. Usually if you’re not interested in doing more than one specific thing, you don’t really learn more things that aren’t relevant to your task

[wooden ember]

true

[wheat mesa]

Which I guess he never got to using global variables in his experience

[wooden ember]

i would never have had the motivation to just sit down and learn js before doing stuff

heck if that was the way i had to do everything i would basically not be able to do anything

thats how i got into cars, either pay the tech £1000 to fix one of my brakes or do it myself for £100

once you watch a couple of YT videos on how to do it and get an idea how it all goes its suprisingly easy to fix most issues on basically anything mechanical

[wheat mesa]

“Easy to fix” wait until you blow a transmission

[wooden ember]

i mean yeah idk how to do that but thats cuz i haven't done it yet

plus our car is a 2008 toyota yaris

thats transmission is going nowhere

[lyric mountain]

"Everybody Hates Chris", the pepper sauce in sink pipe episode

[boreal iron]

[wheat mesa]

My car is a 2013 Ford Focus and the mechanics (was taking it back for a repair on the airbags due to a recall) said that the warranty only applies to my transmission (I asked them about some issues I was having) when it completely blows

[lyric mountain]

blue satan iirc

[wooden ember]

anyway i need to go get dinner be back in a bit, ping me with any suggestions

[wheat mesa]

They told me “Yeah basically when that happens your car will just shift into neutral while you’re driving at anytime and then it’ll beep at you saying “transmission fault”

Oh the joys of owning a ford

[boreal iron]

Damn I don’t have my gif anymore

[boreal iron]

#memes-and-media message

There we go

[wheat mesa]

It’s true

It drives pretty well for having ~83k miles though

[boreal iron]

Dunno why but that’s so funny I might die of laughing

[wheat mesa]

I have some sort of air intake valve issue I need to fix that causes the car to lurch when a accelerating from a stop though

[wheat mesa]

I might die of a transmission fault, let’s see who dies first

[boreal iron]

[wheat mesa]

Knowing my luck the transmission will blow at precisely 100,001 miles, 1 mile over the warranty

[boreal iron]

Trust me the brand doesn’t matter much, cars nowadays are all shit

[wheat mesa]

And that’ll total the car because the transmission costs more than the car is worth

[boreal iron]

Still good enough for a new driver

[wheat mesa]

Yeah

Hopefully it doesn’t kill me

The gas mileage is actually pretty good too which is nice during these gas prices

Something like 23mpg city driving

[boreal iron]

Americans crying about gas prices while a gallon costs less than our liter

🤦‍♂️

[wheat mesa]

Americans are used to paying very little for gas

America is a lot different than Europe, it takes a lot more gas to get places

Since we’re not as densely populated

Unless of course you live in the city, in which case everything is really closeby

[boreal iron]

They still pay less and could also go on paying less since fracking capabilities being used again but oil companies wanna make cash atm blaming Russia’s war for the price increase

[sudden geyser]

Until we invest even the slightest bit in public transit gas and its price are essential.

I hate this place

[boreal iron]

Not only an issue over there

Same here

[sudden geyser]

define here

[boreal iron]

Especially on the country side

Here in that country

anywhere in that shithole country

[wheat mesa]

Yeah our public transit is really run down and trashy here

The dart trains are getting a revamp though

Still I dislike public transport especially during covid

[sudden geyser]

state said country

I live near Boston which has "good" public transit by US standards but it's still awful and chaotic to use.

[boreal iron]

Please consider that as personal opinion as more than 90% of the people (or more) actually not being affected by it in any case

[wheat mesa]

Wdym

[wheat mesa]

I’m close to Dallas, only thing we’re known for here is our highway pileups

And our history of having presidents assassinated here

[sudden geyser]

Yeah I'd never want to live near there

Katy freeway

[wheat mesa]

I’m in the suburbs, it’s actually pretty good

Dallas itself is a shithole

At least it’s not Houston though

[sudden geyser]

suburbs suck as well

[boreal iron]

Doesn’t like any city suck in the US?

[wheat mesa]

No

I quite like Austin

[sudden geyser]

depends

boston is actually pretty nice

[wheat mesa]

Visited there a couple days ago for a tour of my (hopefully) future uni, it’s a very nice city

[boreal iron]

The heck

[wheat mesa]

Very urban so traffic sucks but it’s pretty nice

[boreal iron]

Ok time to get some sleep to start in an hour again

[quartz kindle]

all you teenagers with shiny new cars

[wheat mesa]

my car was a hand down from my mom, it's a good starter car

I doubt it'll last much longer though

trying to take care of it but if there's an expensive repair I'm kinda fucked

[sharp geyser]

I have no car

Lucky fuck

[quartz kindle]

my car is from 1996

230k miles / 380k kilometers

gonna drive 1k+ miles with it in a couple weeks :^)

[wheat mesa]

jesus

[wooden ember]

lol tbh i vowed to me self to never buy a "new" car cuz they are all technical nightmares, i just want something old, robust, reparable with only a spanner set and somewhat reliable

[earnest phoenix]

do you guys have any recommendations for some sort of free database that has over 500MB+?

my purpose is to upload strings that have 2K bytes each; those strings are base 64 encoded and carry a json object.
to be more detailed, I use those base 64 encoded strings to give more image details to a reverse searched image which you run via a command.

so about 1 reverse searched image equals 2000 byte.

and until I reach the mongodb limit, I would have to run 250000 commands in total until I am forced to delete the oldest one to store a new one

mongodb has 512MB and I have used mongoose before ( and I really love it ), perhaps you guys know any better alternatives?

I tried hastebin api but hastebin has request limitations, and mongodb seems the most realistic option for me as of right now

[pine nova]

looks like u jumped from a building 💀

[wheat mesa]

Why do you need a database to store all of this info? Isn't it only used once?

[earnest phoenix]

no I'm not embedding those information until somebody decides to request detailed information

it's like I want to let people decide whether they want more information or not for an embed preview

and there's multiple embeds with multiple different results

so I have to track detailed information for each of those embeds

they can be temporary sure

over a month will be passed by the time my mongodb is filled with encoded strings

so I can just start deleting one by one oldest to newest

and each information will have a lifetime of 1 month or depending on the amount of information that's requested

[wheat mesa]

Aren't you fetching the base64 image data though? Why do you need to store that; can't you just request it again or cache it for a little while

And then just use the db for settings

I don't think I understand what you're trying to do here

You can use postgresql and self host it on your vps if you need more storage

[wooden ember]

just make a burner discord server and upload it there and fetch the msg later

ez

lol

(jk pls dont do that)

[wheat mesa]

You can do that with basically every sql server though

[proven escarp]

Signup for Github Education and use the 200$ Mongo Credit for some more storage

[wheat mesa]

No

That's a temporary solution

[languid pier]

i am looking for the command for mudae role

[wheat mesa]

When there's a much better option called using postgres 😉

[wheat mesa]

Not the right server for this

Go to their support server

[earnest phoenix]

I don't have a vps nor a database hence I'm asking for recommendations

but the problem is that I don't think I can use mongodb with uptimerobot

[wheat mesa]

get a vps

[wheat mesa]

again, not the right server. This is a bot list, not mudae's support server

[earnest phoenix]

https://pipedream.com/apps/uptime-robot/integrations/mongodb

Maybe I could use this

Seems promising

[wheat mesa]

You should use a proper vps if you wish to upgrade your discord bot's capabilities

[languid pier]

can you invite me to the right server?

[earnest phoenix]

what do you mean by capabilities?

I just plan to host the bot with uptimerobot

And mongodb for temporary data

I'm completely fine with 512mb

I'll just delete old results once it reaches the limit, this way I'll never actually reach the limit

Seems realistic?

[wheat mesa]

you can find their server on their bot's page

[wheat mesa]

The amount of data your bot can properly handle, the expandability

[languid pier]

Okay

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah 512mb

1 of those commands I run is 2000 byte

as for the data my bot can handle, that's not really related to what the database can handle as I'm not beating the shit out of the database

[wheat mesa]

The VPS allows you to handle more data because you can host your own database

You wouldn't be limited to mongo cloud

[earnest phoenix]

That's fine im fine with the mongodb resources/limits

I'm not requiring any more than I need for my purpose

[wheat mesa]

I mean I assumed you wanted more, since that's what you wanted here

but whatever floats your boat

[earnest phoenix]

yeah if possible

but not necessary

so I'll just stick to mongodb + uptimerobot which I'm fine with

[lyric mountain]

are u able to use file-based databases?

also u can compress base64 images to reduce storage usage

[sick agate]

you really don't need it if you are sure someone will use your bot

[wooden ember]

i mean the other option is just look out for a pc that someone it throwing out and use that as a server

[ancient nova]

Question to everyone:

|| as developers what kinda coffee you like the most? ||

[boreal iron]

None

[sharp geyser]

Not all devs like coffee

But I myself love a caramel frapp

[sterile lantern]

what does this error mean (code below)

[boreal iron]

I like water

Nothing else tbh

[ancient nova]

good choice

I fancy a ice cold latte

:pepepray:

:pepepray:

wha

[sterile lantern]

maybe i should check if bloxlinkJSON is null

[earnest phoenix]

oh damn how so

[earnest phoenix]

what would this mean

[ancient nova]

am I the only one who doesn't see that emoji

:pepepray:

[proven escarp]

🤷‍♂️

[boreal iron]

Tf you’re doing

Of course you need to

[proven escarp]

bloxlinkJSON doesn't exist

at least in this case

[boreal iron]

If bloxlink is null how can it have a property

[lyric mountain]

literally that

[sterile lantern]

it shouldve catched

[lyric mountain]

databases that are contained in files instead of services

what are u using to host the bot?

[sterile lantern]

in the .catch(async (err) part, but i changed it

[sharp geyser]

Like SQLite

[boreal iron]

Also you don’t need to use catch to return null

[sharp geyser]

It's a file based db

[sterile lantern]

ya ik

[lyric mountain]

I asked that EXACTLY because of sqlite

[proven escarp]

cause it can 🤷‍♂️
just use typescript and make it typesafe

[boreal iron]

If the promise fails your var is null anyways

[lyric mountain]

small, good enough as a dump database, fast, reliable

[earnest phoenix]

Uptimerobot

[proven escarp]

That's not a host

[lyric mountain]

...what are u using to host the bot

[earnest phoenix]

Honestly I just wanna store the json objects

[lyric mountain]

not to keep alive

[ancient nova]

enmap? pretty easy to use wrapper for sql

[earnest phoenix]

None

[boreal iron]

Wut null or undefined can’t have properties

[earnest phoenix]

isn't uptimerobot keeping it running

[lyric mountain]

ok so u throw the bot on the ground and it walks by itself?

[proven escarp]

Wrapper for SQL? Use an ORM I guess?

[earnest phoenix]

I host the bot 24/7????

[proven escarp]

It can I think...

[earnest phoenix]

The fuck you mean

[proven escarp]

No.

Well yes

but it doesn't host it

[lyric mountain]

host = what is used to run the code

uptimerobot only pings the host to refresh the keepalive time

[sharp geyser]

Probably uses glitch or replit

Keeps the shit pinged

[earnest phoenix]

I'm gonna use replit ig

[lyric mountain]

ok, so file-based database is out of question

[earnest phoenix]

that doesn't help me

[proven escarp]

Unless the files are stored on an external server?

[sharp geyser]

Can't even use mongo either unless you use a cloud version

[proven escarp]

Well you don't really help us help you

[lyric mountain]

well, it would if u werent using one of those specific 2 hosts

and heroku too

[boreal iron]

[proven escarp]

heroku 🤮

[ancient nova]

how do you spell invisible? I could've sworn it's spelled invincible instead

[earnest phoenix]

I just need a good free 24/7 host with free datastore that's all

[lyric mountain]

regarding the compression, simply apply your preferred compression algorithm on the string bytes

[ancient nova]

digital ocean

[lyric mountain]

works just like 7zip or whatever

[sharp geyser]

Two different meanings

[earnest phoenix]

alright

[proven escarp]

I don't think there is any... Just rent a VPS for like 1$/month and it will work just fine...

[sharp geyser]

Invisible means can't be seen, invincible means can't be destroyed

[earnest phoenix]

do u have any u can recommend for that price

[ancient nova]

makes sense

[lyric mountain]

wait wait, I have a message I sent regarding "free" paradox triangle

[boreal iron]

Well more like 5 bucks per month

At least

[sharp geyser]

Just get an oracle vps

[proven escarp]

Anything really 🤷‍♂️ GalaxyGate is an option I think? I don't use small VPSs like this. I use larger machines that are way more expensive

[lyric mountain]

great quality: not free
free: low quality
great quality & free: limited time
free & unlimited time: you're the product (either ads or data selling)
great quality & free & unlimited time: you're being scammed

[proven escarp]

I use Oracle Cloud

[sharp geyser]

They are free

[earnest phoenix]

give me some money and i wont use it

like 50 bucks a year

[proven escarp]

huh?

[proven escarp]

Yes but I use the Paid Plan

[earnest phoenix]

what do u mean by great quality

[proven escarp]

Cause I need x86_64 cpus

[lyric mountain]

performance (and support)

[proven escarp]

and apparently oracle doesn't wanna use anything else than RAM on free plan

[boreal iron]

Stability

[earnest phoenix]

doesn't matter to me

[boreal iron]

Reliability

[proven escarp]

It should

[lyric mountain]

if ur gonna do IO all the time, it does matter

[boreal iron]

If a server is down 2 times a day it matters

[lyric mountain]

else it'll be your bottleneck

[earnest phoenix]

what's IO again

[lyric mountain]

input/output

[earnest phoenix]

O

[sharp geyser]

If you want a free host find an old PC the only thing you'll be paying for is wifi and electricity

[earnest phoenix]

fair enough lol

[sharp geyser]

See the joke here is that nothing is free

[wheat mesa]

Enjoy your unreliable hosting from it

[earnest phoenix]

I have one doe

[lyric mountain]

basically you'll be dealing with a shitton of files going and coming 24/7 if I understood ur bot right

[wheat mesa]

Internet goes down, pc shuts off, you lose power, etc

[boreal iron]

Who tf uses WiFi in PCs

[earnest phoenix]

not a shitton, my bot is rather small

[lyric mountain]

the major bottlenecks will be bandwidth, storage and RAM

[sharp geyser]

It was a joke to emphasize that no matter what you'll have to pay in some shape or form

[proven escarp]

laptops: am i a joke to you?

[wheat mesa]

Oracle cloud has a very good VPS

For free

Don’t ever give them a dime though

[lyric mountain]

great for proxy servers I say

[wheat mesa]

Greedy bastards

[sharp geyser]

Me because I don't live next to my router dummy

[boreal iron]

Yeah I meant desktop PCs

[lyric mountain]

did u see what they did to JPA?

[wheat mesa]

Yeah

[boreal iron]

That’s the reason god has invented LAN cables for us

[proven escarp]

I do 😳

I pay for my servers

[sharp geyser]

I'm not wiring a long ass cable to my room

[wheat mesa]

“Rename it because we want to prove that we own Java!”

As if we didn’t already know

[lyric mountain]

like bruh, I had slight hope that oracle wasn't doomed at all

but doing that to the backbone of enterprise java is a joke

[sharp geyser]

Oracle not being doomed?

[lyric mountain]

like, know when you put out a fire, leave the embers for a week in a moist and cold climate, but there's a single slightly warm atom?

that was my hope for oracle

[boreal iron]

I mean if people enjoy unreliable and bad internet connection because of using WiFi

Why not

[sharp geyser]

You're wrong

[boreal iron]

No

[sharp geyser]

Never had an issue

[boreal iron]

Totally not

[sharp geyser]

So you're wrong

[wooden ember]

tea.

[boreal iron]

If you would need “a long ass cable” that already refers to the range

[sharp geyser]

Okay and

Your opinion is just that an opinion

I'll continue using what I want

[boreal iron]

If you don’t own a like 2000 bucks high tech access point it’s always inconsistent and trash

[boreal iron]

lmao

[wooden ember]

bruh its not opinion though wifi is worse than ethernet, wifi is wayyyy more suseptable to external factors like interference rainge and usage

[boreal iron]

You can but it won’t make it better

[wooden ember]

i mean you can buy one of those routers with a milion antenas

and then buy an expensice wifi NIC with big antenas

[boreal iron]

Those don’t change anything since it’s still 2.4GHz or 5

[wooden ember]

yeah but means its more stable and wont drop out asmuch

[boreal iron]

Which has to deal with walls, radar, channel switching etc

[wooden ember]

speed will still suck

but thats about all you can do with wifi is my point

[sharp geyser]

My speed is top notch for the plan I have so I don't have any complaints

[boreal iron]

WiFi is only recommended for devices which can’t use Ethernet

[wooden ember]

I ran a lan cable to my room under the floor to my room

its an old house so there was alot of space

ik not everyone has that option thouhg

our router is like 10 years old so the wifi isnt that great

but its still better than the new router they sent over

cuz the new one doent even have an antena

[boreal iron]

Most routers nowadays are as bad

[wooden ember]

yeah

[boreal iron]

They are just cheap mostly delivered by your isp

[wooden ember]

the old one has an external antena thats positionable, however the new one has a trace on the internal pcb

doent do shit

[wheat mesa]

I don’t care that wifi is worse, it was invented because it’s more convenient to use

[wooden ember]

yup

its got its uses i'll give it that

[wheat mesa]

Idk about you guys but u don’t feel like running a cable from my living room to 30 other rooms just for a slight performance gain

[boreal iron]

Anyways WiFi is just a big mess, if you closely measure the consistency, speed and reliability you will be shocked

[wheat mesa]

I lose packets every now and then, who cares

[boreal iron]

Phones tend to use mobile data in the background if WiFi sucks

You usually don’t notice issues there

[wheat mesa]

I have no complaints about my wifi, only very rarely have I had issues with it

And more often than not it’s not even my router, it was my cheap ass network card I bought for 20 bucks for my pc

[wooden ember]

bruh in my experience windows is dumb and keeps disconnecting me for no reason if the internet is too slow even though its not the wifi

[wheat mesa]

(Which I have since replaced with a nicer one)

[ancient nova]

[boreal iron]

Didn’t say anyone has benefit using Ethernet

[wheat mesa]

Yeah tbh I drink a lot of iced tea

I prefer that to coffee

[boreal iron]

But especially for gaming and file sharing inside your network WiFi sucks

[wooden ember]

screw you i use ethernet for my phone

[wheat mesa]

I usually only drink coffee when I need a lot of caffeine and I have work to do

[boreal iron]

Lightning to Ethernet adapter

[wooden ember]

hehehe

[sharp geyser]

Fake you're preaching to a bunch of people who don't care

[boreal iron]

That’s okay

[wooden ember]

bruh how else are we gonna make up for this weeks argument quota after lastweeks argument on android vs ios?

that one got spicy

[boreal iron]

Doesn’t prevent me from arguing about weird and wrong facts

[wooden ember]

lol

[boreal iron]

Aye the love of Voltrex about features 99,9% of the phone users don’t use or know but the fact you need to throw your phone away every 2 years since life support has ended

[wooden ember]

bruh why would you bin the phone if its "not supported though"

[boreal iron]

Better question is why to keep an android phone without security updates

[wooden ember]

like yeah some issues wont be pached out anymore but the same for pc "not being dumb" goes along way in protecting againced viruces and that

other than that you are fine

[boreal iron]

You can’t compare stuff to a new pc

Most OS have like decades of life support

[wooden ember]

not on about "new pc" on on about any pc

[boreal iron]

Common OS covers like 99,9% of the hardware out there even fucking old ones

Especially Linux of course and Windows 10

[sick agate]

well yeah???

[boreal iron]

Phones are not meant to last that long or be supported that long

[wooden ember]

what are you doing on a phone to get a virus anyway

[sick agate]

it being unsupported doesn't mean you can't use it

[boreal iron]

Companies wouldn’t make much cash if things would last or be supported for years

[wooden ember]

i used my old android for 5 years

[sick agate]

i literally used nokia 302 this year

for a year

so y'know you can use unsupported stuff

[boreal iron]

[sick agate]

yeah what

my friend use like S3 neo or something

for a year as well

[boreal iron]

Well I’m using an iPhone X and 7

Google how old those devices are

But still supported

Also pushed with updates

[sick agate]

good luck using software when the support ends

just saying

[boreal iron]

Well this about when the device is 10y old or older

I can live with that if so

[inland moon]

Hi

[boreal iron]

Pretty awesome for a phone

[sick agate]

good luck sideloading

[boreal iron]

siteloading?

[sick agate]

if it doesn't break

which it will probably

[boreal iron]

Well yeah anything except Nokias can break

[sick agate]

well yeah

sadly my mom's s5 broke

[boreal iron]

Imagine buying an phone every 10y only

Companies would run out of money quickly

[sick agate]

yup

[lyric mountain]

You're supposed to change phones before 10y?

[boreal iron]

Which brings us back to the life support philosophy

[wooden ember]

in 10 years your irraplaceable battery is not gonna exist

[sick agate]

5 year seems ok imo

[sick agate]

if it's an replaceble one it is gonna exist it in some shape

[lyric mountain]

I usually change every 5y or so, not because of battery or anything, I just get bored of it

[sick agate]

welp

i have changed phones too much

[boreal iron]

6 years old now, just 10% capacity lost

[sick agate]

okey

[boreal iron]

Not much trouble

Tbh

[lyric mountain]

The trick is buying phones with the right battery type

[boreal iron]

Has to do with the charging behavior

[sick agate]

yup

i agree

[lyric mountain]

And remembering 2005+ phones lose battery capacity per cycle not continuous charge

[boreal iron]

Yeah tbh also depends from phone to phone

There’s no reliable quality even in the same charge of phones

[lyric mountain]

The old "don't use while charging" consensus don't really work nowadays, at least from what I can notice

Like, don't put, take, put, take, put, take the phone from the charger all the time

[wooden ember]

mmm still doesn't help the fact its irriplacable unless you pay stupidly inflated prices to apple to fix it them selves

[boreal iron]

Also software updates fucking you up etc

Maybe wanted sometimes

[boreal iron]

Actually is replaceable

Not really much of a big deal tbh

Once you done it a few times

[lyric mountain]

As hard as changing notebook's

Just in a smaller and tighter space

[wooden ember]

the new ones you can't, they added some id chip in the BMS that is pared with the phone main board making it phone have like half battery capasity if you replace it

[boreal iron]

Yeah heard about that already

Not only on batteries

Also for camera modules etc

But yeah times aren’t getting better anyways

So no surprise

[lyric mountain]

half-life phone

(insert lambda here)

[ancient nova]

this doesn't work

I edited the page 2 weeks ago

it was supposed to help, but I didn't even get ONE SINGLE invite from top.gg

not even one, the entire time it's been up on top.gg

[dry imp]

L

[ancient nova]

[lyric mountain]

show the page

[ancient nova]

https://top.gg/bot/973306610501947423

I don't think it's that bad. one of the mods here told me to use pictures so I did

[lyric mountain]

u could've sent a pic

[ancient nova]

don't be lazy

so is it bad or not 😐

[lyric mountain]

ok, here are my few cents:

• Anonymous hater, ok, but what are the odds of a search returning a bot with such name?
• Yes you added pics, but there's no description, no "salesman talk", nothing but the name + pic
• The page barely talks about the bot, be creative, sell your bread, think "Why would I invite this bot?" and answer to yourself, then add that to the page

the more information you put there, the higher are the odds of some search engine returning your page (tag-based search or context based search)

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

and the more effort you put into it, the higher the odds of you grabbing the user's attention

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

as it is now, I barely know what your bot does (most of what I do is from what I saw u asking for help here) or what it'd add to my server

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

also this, please don't do that, it's basically begging for attention

people will feel insecure about you or your bot

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

I found one niche to fit into

[ancient nova]

I was on dank memers page and saw that nobody commeted I assume it's a bug

somehow it landed on my page so now it's stuck there because I can't delete it

[ancient nova]

it's got a bunch of unique commands I came up with

@wheat mesa don't doubt me it's literally what happened

STOP

[winged linden]

yoo i need help, it works in some channels but in some it stopped working any idea why??

[wheat mesa]

chans is not a string, you can’t use .includes() on it

I’m surprised it doesn’t throw an error

[pine nova]

what if array

[winged linden]

bruh its an array

[wheat mesa]

Can you show the json

[winged linden]

works normally for some channels, some it doesnt

just some ids

[pine nova]

prolly the json array doesnt contains the channel id?

[wheat mesa]

That’s not a valid json lol

[winged linden]

how not lol

[wheat mesa]

That’s the reason it works

Json is key/value pairs, that’s just an array in a file

[winged linden]

yeah i know, instead of having the array in this file i made a json file

[winged linden]

what should i do then

[wheat mesa]

Ok so I just looked it up, apparently you can do that with json

Learn something new every day I guess

[pine nova]

lol

[winged linden]

lol

whats wrong from my side then bruv

[wheat mesa]

Log the value of the json

See what it comes up with

[winged linden]

i literally been thinking for the past couple of mins lmao

1sec

[pine nova]

[pine nova]

is the if statement bracket closed?

[winged linden]

yes

bro it works... not for all the channels though

[pine nova]

the array doesnt contain the channel id?

[winged linden]

it does it does i am 100% sure

[pine nova]

💀 💀

[lyric mountain]

are all erroring channels with an extra character perchance?

[winged linden]

found the problem bruvv wtf thats a stupid bug javascript got?

[lyric mountain]

?

[winged linden]

this doesnt work as it doesnt log everything, i add var it works bruh

[lyric mountain]

var?

also, you do need let/const when declaring variables

[winged linden]

var, const, let any of those it works

[lyric mountain]

forget var please

but yeah, idk what even happens if u try to assign a value to a non-declared variable

[winged linden]

why not use var

[lyric mountain]

maybe it simply throws to the void

[lyric mountain]

oh here we go again

[winged linden]

lol

it works with var lmao

[lyric mountain]

var is a legacy feature that causes a shitton of weird bugs, most related to hoisting nature of var

it's there for the sole purpose of supporting legacy codebase

[winged linden]

okay cool cool, gonna use const then

[lyric mountain]

let does exactly what var does but without the drawbacks

const is for constants

[ancient nova]

    const wordToSearch = args.join("%20");
    if (!wordToSearch) return message.channel.send("You have to give a query to search.");
    
    const generateImage = await fetch(`https://api.giphy.com/v1/gifs/search?q=${wordToSearch}&api_key=${process.env.GIPHY}&limit=1`);
    if (!generateImage) return message.channel.send("Could not generate the image. Try again in a bit.");
    
    const generateAttachment = new MessageAttachment(generateImage.data[0].url, `giphy.${generateImage.data[0].type}`);
    if (!generateAttachment) return message.channel.send("Could not generate the attachment. Try again in a bit.");

    return await message.channel.send({ files: [generateAttachment] });

Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '0')

{"data":[{"type":"gif","id":"3ogwFGEHrVxusDbDjO","url":"https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-episode-15-3ogwFGEHrVxusDbDjO","

what's the problem?

[lyric mountain]

what's the error?

[ancient nova]

it's in there
Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '0')

[lyric mountain]

.data[0]

it's a single img

not an array

[ancient nova]

what am I suppsed to do instead then?

[lyric mountain]

u need to parse that into a json first

[ancient nova]

okay that's done

it now returns this

[main sky]

Is there an API to bulkUpdate member's roles? Like assigning multiple roles in one request, rather than looping through one by one..

[lyric mountain]

I believe that's not the direct url

try posting the url directly as a msg

not as a file

[ancient nova]

ah I noticed

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-episode-15-3ogwFGEHrVxusDbDjO

it doesn't embed in the messageattachment though

[lyric mountain]

bcuz it's not a direct url

giphy wouldn't lose the ad oportunity

[ancient nova]

found a way to get a direct URL

how do you get a random number between 2 in JS

will Math.random(0, 5) work?

[lyric mountain]

no

max * Math.random()

add 1 if u want inclusive

[ancient nova]

@lyric mountain so a couple hours ago I added my bot to this list, it said it failed because I had to join their server but I couldn't because the invite link was invalid. somehow it went through and now a mod is approving it

would it be bad if I just messaged the mod?

[ancient nova]

wouldn't that return doubles?

[lyric mountain]

yes

u need to floor it

[earnest phoenix]

You can also use the randomInt() function from the built-in node:crypto module, but that can be a little slow as it's cryptographically random

[ancient nova]

thanks

[ancient nova]

also ?

[lyric mountain]

idk abt that

varies from mod to mod

[lyric mountain]

quite overkill

there's a formula for min-max rng, I don't remember the second part

it's (max - min) * ((Math.random() * max) - min) or something

[ancient nova]

thing is they said it's required to join their server

not sure if my bot gets approved if I'm not in it

[lyric mountain]

I can't say anything regarding that, I saw many lists that are both sides of the spectrum