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#general
strong spindle
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stuck spindle
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what an opening line
strong spindle
what an opening line
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chrome fiber
Someone doesn’t want potato
Yes
pearl lagoon
Is there a bot available that can send messages by editing content from another message in a different channel and then posting it to an announcement channel with auto publish?
I mean, If I am following server updates from another server on my server, and the message includes a role that is not mentionable in my server, is there a way to edit the updates in my server or automatically repost the message with edits?
chrome fiber
You mean someone already got scammed
No?
echo oar
Better be a good site then
chrome fiber
Better be a good site then
jolly osprey
Hello
west ledge
Good morning
chrome fiber
so someone has to pay to invite your bot
Nono
The website does lookup features
It has more features coming
chrome fiber
And too get beta on the web you pay
If you don't wanna pay you can wait for us to open
echo oar
something that is supposed to be a landing page for your bot
chrome fiber
something that is supposed to be a landing page for your bot
We are on beta. The site isn't protected. The payment is so if people wanna use it early they don't do dumb shit
echo oar
Good morning
morning
chrome fiber
The site will only be beta for another week or two
Until we figure out ad blocked detection and API limiting
echo oar
All adblockers do is delete the ad html entirely or block js sometimes
chrome fiber
All adblockers do is delete the ad html entirely or block js sometimes
Yea
We don't want that
Our shi needs to get funded somehow
echo oar
Right so if you know how it works it’s easy to detect
chrome fiber
Right so if you know how it works it’s easy to detect
Yea but I'm not making the web 😭
The other owner is
echo oar
Ok
chrome fiber
The real thing is api protection
stuck spindle
Good morning
Why u always wake up when I sleep
west ledge
I’m okay hbu
I'm good, having breakfast
echo oar
Oh nice
opal oriole
Why u always wake up when I sleep
how do you sleep at 7 AM!
stuck spindle
timezones man
INSANE
opal oriole
INSANE
quartz moss
three tired
odd hemlock
echo oar
Join the support server
echo oar
One day I might visit that side of the country
I hope to travel a lot of Europe and Asia some day
im just too broke rn
echo oar
ong
west ledge
@hollow tundra happy birthday sir!!!
tawny shuttle
happy bday @hollow tundra
umbral sparrow
top.gg shows that i can vote even when my cooldown is still on
and when i voted, the cooldown got triggered but i didn't get reward
civic marten
Hi
stone kindle
Hello
pine sable
hi
west ledge
because i ddossed it /s
novel ingot
because i ddossed it /s
No you Didnt.
ripe junco
GOOD MORNING TOP GEE GEE
hollow juniper
No you Didnt.
Yes he did. Source: trust me bro
fading thistle
why is https://downtime.wtf offline
i like how theres an entire website to showing how many times its down
its down so often it needs an entire bar graph and historical tracking
hollow juniper
The is no option to view servers
They got rid of servers
ripe junco
why are we whispering
novel ingot
Yes he did. Source: trust me bro
What if i did it?
hollow juniper
What if i did it?
ripe junco
bruh ive been at work for a whole hour
ive been awake for almost 3 hours
WAKE UP
eepy
whole sable
Helloo
tawny shuttle
hai
strong spindle
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ripe junco
@strong spindle
strong spindle
<@301379068941828096>
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hollow juniper
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Hi
hollow juniper
How u are doin
strong spindle
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hardy sun
Mod
hollow juniper
No
limpid path
how are you all
boreal belfry
GOOD MORNING TOP GEE GEE
I want to cry
hollow tundra
Do not cry
boreal belfry
Do not cry
IM DOING
FUCKING NEXTJS
PIECE OF SHIT STUPID FUCKING FRAMEWORK
i hate nextauth
nextjs is so fucking dumb
boreal belfry
<:skill_issue:925391352005550111>
im gonna fuck your mum
hollow tundra
nextjs is so fucking dumb
I like nextjs
boreal belfry
@hollow tundra happy birthday babes
hollow tundra
im gonna fuck your mum
boreal belfry
I like nextjs
Please help me
hollow tundra
Thank you
hollow tundra
Nahhhh I am a tourist guide rn
boreal belfry
Nahhhh I am a tourist guide rn
AHHHH
strong spindle
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dusky vine
im gonna fuck your mum
ik you're lesbian but she is taken, sorry 
hollow tundra
THANK YOU
strong spindle
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boreal belfry
ik you're lesbian but she is taken, sorry <:troll:1058931747309506570>
lol
hollow tundra
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I DIDNT 
I'm just bad at checking pings
ripe junco
I want to cry
boreal belfry
<a:ComfortHuggie:853472237804847164>
do you know nextjs by any chance-
ripe junco
nope
boreal belfry
FUCK
boreal belfry
it sucks ass
i hate this shit
look at this
theyre the exact same things
EXACT. SAME. FUCKING. THING.
yet one has data, one doesnt
I fucking hate nextjs.
shadow bone
calm down with the excessive language thanks
boreal belfry
hello roosa
shadow bone
one and only warning
boreal belfry
calm down with the excessive language thanks
sos
silent moth
<:onionpray:954383559324471316>
onion emoji
shadow bone
me when im left in general with the regulars
ripe junco
onionpray is my favorite emote man
i find myself trying to use it everywhere, even off discord 
silent moth
I made onion fries today
boreal belfry
save our souls
precisely
shadow bone
i find myself trying to use it everywhere, even off discord <:KEKW:1146893526509...
me when i write "kekw"
clear rain
Hi
chrome fiber
Hi
dense eagle
I'm pretty surprised that the cost of running the discord servers was more than the money received from the auctions, must've had way more overhead than the average person expects
faint mountain
@hollow tundra happy burbday 
hollow tundra
<@286224826170081290> happy burbday <:topggBurbur:1093939207329820723>
Thank you!!
faint mountain
hollow tundra
I'm pretty surprised that the cost of running the discord servers was more than ...
Huh?
Servers were not removed due to cost reasons
Tanks!!
faint mountain
heres the way to get anyones burbday
ripe junco
silk plank
dense eagle
Servers were not removed due to cost reasons
We’ve increasingly become less competitive on those keywords and it is an impossible task to moderate the server directory, far more time than we have to give.
Kinda seems that way, the cost of moderating became greater than the reward for keeping it running
Also happy birthday 
torpid shard
Happy birthday @hollow tundra
hollow tundra
Happy birthday <@286224826170081290>
Thanks!!!
hollow tundra
Also happy birthday <:ofexcited:694153478641025034><:ofexcited:69415347864102503...
Tank you!!!
shadow bone
paying people isnt the only cost in running the site believe it or not
unfortunately other aspects play a part
quartz moss
royalty payments to me
tawny shuttle
paying people isnt the only cost in running the site believe it or not
I mean even without paying it was hardly worth it
fossil path
@hollow tundra happy birthday
Let’s listen and choose the music together in real time.
https://spotify.link/XCvKTsapfJb
west ledge
what
west ledge
ah nice
hollow tundra
<@286224826170081290> happy birthday
Thanks you!!!
fossil path
just ghost pinged?
fossil path
Thanks you!!!
!!!!!!
fossil path
just ghost pinged?
nvm
Discord bug lol
@faint mountain Today marks 5 years since I adopted this cutie (Lilica)
hardy sun
Hello, I sent my bot just now, do they analyze it in less than 1 week?
fossil path
Hello, I sent my bot just now, do they analyze it in less than 1 week?
depends on the number of bots in front of yours, there is a queue
hardy sun
depends on the number of bots in front of yours, there is a queue
Hum, ok, thanks
steep bane
I dont really go to cinema unless
There is a friend that want to watch a movie
Or something that is really hype (like.openjimer)
west ledge
which part of the movie did u like most zobs
polar tendon
Watched dune 2
Dune 1 was so fucking boring
Ruined the idea of even considering watching dune 2 for me
west ledge
Ruined the idea of even considering watching dune 2 for me
dune 2 completely fixes everything about dune 1
it's very action packed too
sullen bridge
Dune 1 was so fucking boring
Ong
sullen bridge
it's very action packed too
Not as much as I'd have liked
At least there's the last part coming
sullen bridge
It was alright
I mean I'm happy they split it instead of cramming everything in one movie
sullen bridge
Apparently the book is massive so they could milk the story as much as they want
Yeah
Anyway I'm off to buy ice cream 😋
west ledge
i liked it a lot
though tbf the last quarter of the movie seems a bit rushed
it's like they noticed the movie was running for too long and started to cram things so it doesn't hit that 3 hour mark
because people hate it when it's 3 hours somehow
sullen bridge
They should've tbh
west ledge
so true
polar tendon
Dune one was sooooooo much talking
sullen bridge
I didn't understand some bits icl
sullen bridge
I need my subtitles 😔
west ledge
Not enough action
exactly the opposite for dune 2
lots of action
and lots of spectacle
polar tendon
I want to see interstellar in theaters when it comes back out this fall
I never got to see it in theaters since I was too young
west ledge
wait it's BACK?
polar tendon
They’re bringing it back to theaters in like September or October or something like that
IMAX theaters too
west ledge
i dont want to wait until 2033 man
polar tendon
My gf didn’t like it but she’s not as interested in the science stuff as I am
It was too long for her
west ledge
lmao fairs
she probably preferred barbie
where hug emoji
smh
yikes
speaking of which @sullen bridge what happened to my stickers
strong spindle
i dont want to wait until 2033 man
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west ledge
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i dont wanna stream it
i wanna experience it in theaters
strong spindle
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hidden brook
shadow bone
west ledge
fr
west ledge
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which is why im waiting for rereleases
fallen olive
@fresh rose
ripe junco
its only 13:30 😭
west ledge
west ledge
i think i made 8
obtuse crane
GM
novel ingot
wtf happend votes for my bot are gone o.0
ripe junco
-resetvotes
lilac geyserBOT
Why have my votes reset to zero?
Vote counts resets every month. Votes reset to 1 upon the first vote after midnight UTC on the first day of a new month.
💡 You can read more about how voting works in our support article: What is Voting?
novel ingot
i was just confused it had 20 votes and it was at 1 haha
sullen bridge
some of those tags need renaming ngl
whys it not -votesreset
or can u create aliases
rose crystal
Thanks zobs
quick fossil
Thanks zobs
Hi
sullen bridge
like -resetvotes can also be -votereset
muted bobcat
ripe junco
strong spindle
or can u create aliases
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sullen bridge
o
rose trail
Hi 
boreal belfry
wrong channel
plush lance
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weak cairn
nerds
pearl void
woeful sundial
pine trout
damn i've never gotten speeds like this before
fading thistle
damn i've never gotten speeds like this before
i get those on a bad day
pine trout
i get those on a bad day
i think my ssd is the bottleneck
fading thistle
whatever helps you sleep at night
echo oar
Damn
pine trout
my friend has the same setup but he uses a nvme instead
and he is at 55
so that's why i am thinking it's the ssd
faint mountain
gn dbl
topaz anchor
gn burb
topaz anchor
damn i've never gotten speeds like this before
What ssd?
cyan moss
VirtualBox works great on Apple Silicon!
torpid shard
i need to get a job
real edge
Mine still has over 400 votes for some reason
hollow juniper
Mine still has over 400 votes for some reason
I think it may take some time for cache to clear
strong spindle
Mine still has over 400 votes for some reason
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strong spindle
I think it may take some time for cache to clear
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hollow juniper
oh
silk plank
hm
sullen bridge
pew pew
ripe junco
potato potahto
sullen bridge
potat
sullen bridge
pog
silk plank
pog
sullen bridge
😔
quartz moss
@stuck spindle hey guess what
stuck spindle
<@231085410988589056> hey guess what
no
quartz moss
i got $240 on my tax refund!!
pastel spindle
hello
sullen bridge
strong spindle
i got $240 on my tax refund!!
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quartz moss
$242.21*
strong spindle
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brazen dagger
helo
strong spindle
$242.21*
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quartz moss
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no?
we got rid of pennies
the government does not pay you in pennies
when you're paying cash it's rounded but any electronic amounts are not
hollow juniper
Round to the nearest 10 thousandth
strong spindle
we got rid of pennies
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quartz moss
nope
strong spindle
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quartz moss
that doesn't dictate its worth
strong spindle
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quartz moss
when paying with cash yes
quartz moss
when dealing with cards / cheques no
quartz moss
That’s so bizarre to me why did they get rid of Pennie’s
exactly because they literally cost more to produce than they're worth
strong spindle
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hollow juniper
Yeah fr
strong spindle
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hollow juniper
I always give them back if I get change
strong spindle
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teal granite
People use pennies for only toss 🙃
west ledge
good morning
echo oar
morning
echo oar
hyd today?
felt much better yesterday but still decided to take it easy
when I wake up will be me officially working on cc again
gotta rework those db tables
west ledge
felt much better yesterday but still decided to take it easy
poggies
great to hear! :)
can't wait to work with you on CC again
echo oar
Yup!
silk plank
Which health care bot on top.gg would be the most effective and beneficial?
what
i dont think there's isnt one
pearl lagoon
Really?
silk plank
yeah
pearl lagoon
yeah
I mean somthing like this bot #announcements message
steep bane
I mean somthing like this bot https://discord.com/channels/264445053596991498/28...
Staff pick is those bot we vote for being amazing in that category or something that is unique
echo oar
Honestly health care on discord is something I’d never really trust
If your problem is mental health especially don’t go to discord seeking solutions just speak to someone professionally
silk plank
what happen to the vote.isWeekend?
west ledge
If your problem is mental health especially don’t go to discord seeking solution...
exactly
echo oar
Now I’m not saying don’t speak to your friends
But they realistically can’t help you
It’s also not fair to them to put them in a position like that
west ledge
yeah it's okay if you just want to vent your thoughts out
echo oar
No idea what you’re talking about bro
west ledge
No idea what you’re talking about bro
they were probably referring to the isWeekend part of the Top.gg API
for weekend vote multipliers
silk plank
they were probably referring to the isWeekend part of the Top.gg API
^
Did it got removed or
i don’t see it on console logs
west ledge
from which endpoint?
silk plank
webhook version
west ledge
webhook version?
echo oar
That’s something to ask veld most likely
He’s been doing backend changes
Idk if anyone else would know but if veld isn’t available ask one of the mods or cms
west ledge
it should look like this
try requesting /api/weekend
silk plank
ill wait when veld comes in chat
silk plank
try requesting `/api/weekend`
its coming off my webhook idk thats gonna work
echo oar
Honestly with vote credits being removed I don’t see why it exists anymore
west ledge
vote credits?
echo oar
Or whatever it was
west ledge
~~its coming off my webhook idk thats gonna work~~
just request it
silk plank
Honestly with vote credits being removed I don’t see why it exists anymore
votes still boost up your bot
silk plank
just request it
where from?
west ledge
no
echo oar
I haven’t published a bot in a while so idk
west ledge
send a request to top.gg/api/weekend
opal oriole
i get this
because it is not the weekend
west ledge
there's an endpoint specifically designed for that
silk plank
send a request to `top.gg/api/weekend`
it said false
west ledge
then it's not the weekend
west ledge
and the multiplier is off
that should explain the property not existing
maybe veld forgot to make the documentation show bool?
echo oar
It honestly might only show in the response when it is the weekend
silk plank
it should look like this {
"bot": "136583532972605440",
"user": "1213694236319416351",
"type": "upvote",
"isWeekend": true,
"query": "?hi=howareyou&someotherquery=weeee"
}
echo oar
Unless it’s optional
echo oar
Then it wouldn’t show at all most likely (depending on the backend)
echo oar
Also a very real possibility it just doesn’t exist anymore on that endpoint and docs haven’t been changed 💀
west ledge
some of the properties sent by the API are nullable but it doesn't show as nullable in the documentation
because veld is wacky
silk plank
Then it wouldn’t show at all most likely (depending on the backend)
probably i just notice it few days ago i forgot to ask
west ledge
that'll prob take months to get accepted lol
west ledge
there is!!
echo oar
People who have no lives constantly on discord to respond to prs
west ledge
actually
echo oar
Yea no
west ledge
they planned to add me to the top-gg-community github organizations
echo oar
If there was that python fiasco would not of happened
west ledge
but they never did
echo oar
I’m talking about a dedicated team of people who can be ready to handle any of the GitHub community stuff
silk plank
i can see you deletin
west ledge
I’m talking about a dedicated team of people who can be ready to handle any of t...
that's where the taskforce supposedly comes in
opal oriole
Why auto mod removes periods bruh??
silk plank
skill issue and L moment
west ledge
@hollow tundra it has been a MONTH
echo oar
that's where the taskforce supposedly comes in
Yet it failed at the most critical moment
west ledge
silk plank
<@286224826170081290> it has been a MONTH
damn
west ledge
the Python SDK doesn't even work and lots of bots running Discord.py are depending on it
echo oar
Why auto mod removes periods bruh??
Because it’s useless to just post a period
west ledge
it hasn't been updated in 3 years
opal oriole
echo oar
the Python SDK doesn't even work and lots of bots running Discord.py are dependi...
Looks like I need to make a pr
west ledge
what pr
opal oriole
.com
opal oriole
?
west ledge
the pr is already done lmao https://github.com/Top-gg-Community/python-sdk/pull/79
echo oar
Man I wish he was online
opal oriole
why do you hate me
west ledge
Man I wish he was online
apparently Veld also wanted to also make a Top.gg PyPI organization as an extra security measure
silk plank
Man I wish he was online
dm does exits
echo oar
He’s offline cause he’s asleep
west ledge
so now i ALSO have to wait for PyPI to accept his proposal of creating a PyPI orgnanization
silk plank
He’s offline cause he’s asleep
i can wake up fish
echo oar
it’s crazy you need to get approval for something like that
opal oriole
i can wake up fish
no need
west ledge
aaron, PyPI is really fucking serious when it comes to security lmao
echo oar
Anyway I petition a dedicated team for handling GitHub community affairs
west ledge
probably the most overly secure package registry out there
silk plank
hm
orchid marten
Or years. 🙃
west ledge
Anyway I petition a dedicated team for handling GitHub community affairs
there is, it's called the taskforce
silk plank
I’ve never seen this taskforce do anything
^
echo oar
Months ago
I mean I get it, top.gg is the bigger priority so it’s stable
But like cmon
west ledge
true
echo oar
At least give a response
muted bobcat
it should look like this {
"bot": "136583532972605440",
"user": "121369423631941...
It doesn't. Query returns an object not a string. I opened an issue on the API docs repo earlier in the week.
silk plank
It doesn't. Query returns an object not a string. I opened an issue on the API d...
i was talking about the isweekend
silk plank
i get this
@muted bobcat
echo oar
Oh egg is here
west ledge
maybe veld forgot to make the documentation show
bool?forisweekend
echo oar
Don’t you ever have the urge to make a discord bot
But then you go to do it
And instantly lose motivation
💀
west ledge
some properties in the documentation shown as non-nullable are actually nullable
silk plank
kind of feeling same thing rn
echo oar
Every now and then I try and go back to my roots
but like whats the point
bots take too much time to make for little payoff
west ledge
really? arent they like really easy to make
compared to like other applications
they're like minecraft mods
echo oar
Any bot worth while will not take you a few hours to make
muted bobcat
There's a missing ? in the docs?Wow this sounds like a massive critical issue guys 
idk how devs have managed to use our API for the last 7 years
west ledge
i mean it can be an issue in some languages where deserializing a non-existent value can cause an error
not everything is JavaScript mac
muted bobcat
Then the dev can handle the error. Idk what the big deal is. Anyone not using JS should be a good enough dev to deal with it 
silk plank
muted bobcat
Do you guys realise what the list of priorities are right now?
silk plank
no
echo oar
Okay, like I said earlier
silk plank
To lazy
muted bobcat
It's not the 7 year old API
west ledge
^^
echo oar
Really unprofessional
west ledge
exactly
muted bobcat
Because I see the same people complaining about github every week
echo oar
We've already acknowledged it was not on the list of priorites
But it has also been an issue for as you put it, 7 years now
💀
muted bobcat
But they are also the same people complaining about the site when it goes down.
silk plank
ah
echo oar
Right mac, I think you misunderstand complaining, and more sheer concern.
muted bobcat
Why is it so concerning?
west ledge
well thousands of bots depend on the SDKs mac
muted bobcat
It's never been an issue
west ledge
especially the Python SDK
echo oar
Right....so malware almost being spread to the entire python sdk was not very concerning
Was really lucky it was caught
west ledge
^^
muted bobcat
It didn't
silk plank
Why is it so concerning?
my question is why complain about topgg is down but there’s ANOTHER discord bot list to use while it’s getting fixed
echo oar
Right because it was caught in time mac
That was sheer luck
No one has looked at that sdk in ages
And again, if you actually read, I already acknowleged it isn't up there on priorities which is understandable
west ledge
like it doesn't even support the latest Python version
silk plank
muted bobcat
my question is why complain about topgg is down but there’s ANOTHER discord bot ...
There are no other viable bot lists. I've been doing this for 4 years and I can tell you there are no alternatives. The only reason I got involved here in the first place as a volunteer was because I was intrigued by how much traffic was coming from Top.gg and I wanted know more about how it worked.
silk plank
There are no other viable bot lists. I've been doing this for 4 years and I can ...
Ah that’s make sense
muted bobcat
Ok. But the py sdk works right?
echo oar
💀
silk plank
Ask null
muted bobcat
In it's current state
silk plank
@west ledge ^
muted bobcat
Why is it always the fkin eggs man
echo oar
understandably so
silk plank
but no need take that to really personal level
muted bobcat
I also care about people using the SDKs but I mostly care about the site being up so that the SDKs actually have a use.
silk plank
Speaking of berry what happened to them?
echo oar
I also care about people using the SDKs but I mostly care about the site being u...
its a double edged sword
Without the site, sdks are useless, without the sdk, its harder to integrate with the site
SDKs are meant to be a trusted source of doing so. Sure you can do it yourself but why reinvent the wheel
silk plank
I forgot my sdks ignore those errors
echo oar
Speaking of berry what happened to them?
They are still around, just doing other things
silk plank
They are still around, just doing other things
ahh
silk plank
im using topsdk
silk plank
echo oar
yea
echo oar
silk plank
Man im planning skipping school today
muted bobcat
Without the site, sdks are useless, without the sdk, its harder to integrate wit...
Yeah I agree. But the reality is there's one guy managing it all right now and he's been doing an amazing job at fixing not only the uptime but also all the bugs we've been complaining about for the past 3 years. I've seen multiple engineers try and fail to do half of what Veld has done since he started on it just a couple of months ago. I'd really recommend holding back on the github PR complaints until the site is done. Veld already said he wants to do V1 of the API on the roadmap, so these concerns are of even lower priority given that update will probably nullify (excuse my pun) most of these issues anyway.
echo oar
Right, I've not once discredited veld, I was always at the forefront of what he's done.
silk plank
I Forgot it’s 2:30 am
west ledge
yup
echo oar
Guy has done what no one in the 2-3 years he was gone could do in 2 weeks.
west ledge
@echo oar atm for the Python SDK we're still waiting for PyPI to approve the creation of a Top.gg PyPI organization 
muted bobcat
Yes. So please be patient with the github stuff. It was the same when you were pinging me every week about it too. There are just other things that are way more important.
echo oar
Though, he doesn't have to do it all himself either. Community stuff is quite literally meant to be up to the CMs. Although I can't say what happens behind closed doors, on the surface it does look like they aren't being utilized fully
Then again that's just what I as a member of top.gg can see, cause i can't see any of the hidden channels
echo oar
Yes. So please be patient with the github stuff. It was the same when you were p...
Also I don't remember pinging you about github, this is one of the few times i've mentioned it because I know how stressful it is.
muted bobcat
You have no idea how much the CMs do
echo oar
Oh im sure that do alot don't get me wrong
muted bobcat
Guys, Top.gg would already be dead if it weren't for the CMs
And the volunteer team overall
echo oar
Again, I am not discrediting them
muted bobcat
This is a dumb discussion
echo oar
Indeed
west ledge
*Also I don't remember pinging you about github, this is one of the few times i'...
i think he meant before Veld, back in the Pim days
echo oar
It will get no where.
I've not really talked about the github issues before to my recollection
I can only remember 1 or 2 other times
muted bobcat
I wasn't talking about you misty i was talking about null
west ledge
yeah
echo oar
oh 
echo oar
the biggest cutie here has to be marco tho lets be real
Bro streams multiple times a week and helps in top.gg ontop of im sure many other things
west ledge
bro's an og
echo oar
ong
marco has been around for a while from what I remember
Back when I was here in 2018 shit was so chaotic tho
😭
west ledge
even worse than 2021?
echo oar
I mean
it was very fresh then
It was just starting to pick up speed in the bot list scene
echo oar
2021 tho I can't speak much about
as i was banned in 2020 and didn't appeal until middle of 2021
west ledge
2021 was hell
echo oar
I heard
west ledge
2020 was when the queue went from 5 days to 8 months
echo oar
pandemic
west ledge
mhm
echo oar
people had no lives outside of the internet
muted bobcat
||some still dont||
echo oar
I actually became a mod of another bot list that thankfully isn't around anymore during my ban of dbl
sage haven
Hi, to verify my discord bot how many servers does it need to have?
sage haven
thx
echo oar
After you hit 100 it becomes mandatory
echo oar
I also don't really recommend putting your bot on top.gg until you verify tho
It's dumb, but plenty of people have gotten their apps declined because of inorganic growth (due to how quickly it grows) because of top.gg exposure
echo oar
soon™️
Lowkey thinking of putting my spare time into making a rust discord bot
💀
open source ofc
gotta get that open source cred
muted bobcat
Lowkey thinking of putting my spare time into making a rust discord bot
This is what being on Discord at 3am will do to you. Quick. Go to bed.
echo oar
I've been away from the bot scene for 3 years now
muted bobcat
muted bobcat
*btw if anyone has it please send it to me*
https://top.gg/donatebot it's on this page
west ledge
Lowkey thinking of putting my spare time into making a rust discord bot
Did i hear RUST
echo oar
yea
I was thinking of throwing the idea your way tbh
collab
1 of the best rust programmers I know + me who sucks at it
west ledge
muted bobcat
I was thinking of throwing the idea your way tbh
"I was thinking of asking you to make it for me"
echo oar
Lmfao nah
muted bobcat
Jk
muted bobcat
Is it tho
echo oar
I guess not, since it looks like it is called upgrade.chat now
muted bobcat
Yeah it got sold a while back
echo oar
I remember when it first got introduced though
it got into hot water very very quickly
Was like 1-2 months later it got found out that some people hacked into their servers or whatever and managed to do some stuff
Can't remember the exact details cause of how long ago it was. But it was a pretty big thing, chat got chaotic
echo oar
<:iara_hehe:878102026054144051>
Tis going to be a game bot
toml files for all the game configuration files in true rust fashion
echo oar
Honestly am I the only one who dislikes toml files
yaml is imo the best config file variant
so clean
😻
muted bobcat
Game bots are the only bots that actually have a chance of growing nowadays
echo oar
We will be using opengl /j
muted bobcat
All my game configs are in json 
muted bobcat
Json is cute
echo oar
visually it just doesn't look good though sometimes its all you can use
because the language just can't handle parsing anything other than json or im too lazy
echo oar
All my game configs are in json <:freerealestate:786821920787136514>
I used to use json for my config stuff as well
until I used rust and was like, why tf would i use json if everything uses toml files
💀
muted bobcat
because the language just can't handle parsing anything other than json *or im t...
How dare you insinuate I'm too lazy to use anything other than json for my djs v13 bot
muted bobcat
echo oar
tho if you use djs
muted bobcat
No me too
muted bobcat
They're at v14
echo oar
oh damn
muted bobcat
I'm waiting for v15 so i can rewrite
echo oar
time flies
west ledge
like use yaml or toml, but json is so meh
actually, i'm okay with any config file, they all look awesome!
echo oar
I'm waiting for v15 so i can rewrite
thats what they all say!
muted bobcat
I skipped v12 lol
echo oar
next thing you know you are still using v13 while v20 is out
west ledge
imagine the rewrites
muted bobcat
No I actually want to rewrite but i'm playing poker with djs. I don't want to rewrite and then have to rewrite again like 3 months later.
echo oar
Showing your poker face already
Soon as v15 comes out v15.5 which has breaking changes will come out after youve rewritten to v15
muted bobcat
Minor versions don't have breaking changes really
west ledge
nothing will be the same
client.messages.cache.message.cache.channel.cache.API.functions.utilities.send.call("text")
if its djs I would not be so sure
muted bobcat
echo oar
```js
client.messages.cache.message.cache.channel.cache.API.functions.utilities....
you forgot await
silly goose
west ledge
actually no they use their own await now
echo oar
it's also nullable so you have to take into account that there MAY not be a message on cache
west ledge
they have their own runtime
echo oar
oh damn
djs runtime
Would not be surprised if they market it as the new node killer
west ledge
echo oar
ye guys its revolutionary! You have to cache everything :D
If its not in cache? Well fetch it for gods sake
muted bobcat
JS sucks for large bots 
the js overhead is crazy
echo oar
Come to rust
echo oar
Im shocked you didn't recommend rust
muted bobcat
Mine uses like 16GB where other bots in 2x the servers using C# etc use under 1GB
west ledge
Aaron i love dpp toooo!
echo oar
Mine uses like 16GB where other bots in 2x the servers using C# etc use under 1G...
WHAT DA FUQ
west ledge
echo oar
16GB???
muted bobcat
Yeah js sucks
west ledge
Serenity/twilight/dpp are all awesome libs
echo oar
rust is blazingly fast after you compile all the deps
muted bobcat
Yeah and I have super aggressive cache sweeping set up but it's still 16GB
And I use Tim's djs-light
west ledge
yeah right 500 dependencies for 1 bot
echo oar
Honestly, that's when i'd make my own cache system
fuck djs
turn off cache, and just use redis /s
muted bobcat
I upgraded to a 128GB dedi at the end of 2023 just so I could scale
echo oar
Right now we are running CC on a 6gb vps (which definitely is not enough) but luckily we are still in dev stages
echo oar
I upgraded to a 128GB dedi at the end of 2023 just so I could scale
JESUS
Depending on who you go through thats hundreds of dollars a month
muted bobcat
I know bot devs who have 256GB and use it all. And others who have multiple 256GB dedis.
echo oar
dyno
welcomer
that one piece one
konami or whatever
I bet groovy and rythm even used massive resources
muted bobcat
Most people using js end up writing their own lib when they get to that scale
west ledge
Depending on who you go through thats hundreds of dollars a month
imagine the amount of $$$ you can save with dpp :^)
echo oar
or swap to different languages/start making microservices
I mean dpp can help but it has its limits
west ledge
every server just takes a few bytes
muted bobcat
I don't want to learn another lang right now so I just pay and pretend it's all ok
west ledge
echo oar
So many problems would be solved if I had the financial stability to support an endevour like that
echo oar
I doubt I'll ever fill it
yes good luck
west ledge
echo oar
You could run 8 instances of your bot before it fills up
assuming it uses perfectly 16gb
muted bobcat
Ngl the best part of the dedi was the intel i7 chip. Some of my db queries went from 1.6s to 200ms.
muted bobcat
Although I did bump postgres up by 2 versions during the migration
west ledge
sheesh thats fast
echo oar
there might be some underlying issue there
muted bobcat
1.6s on a query
20m rows
echo oar
then they have vds which are cheaper lower spec
muted bobcat
I pay €38 a month for mine
echo oar
Hetzner auctions ftw
I'd use hetzner but their american servers aren't the best
contabo rn is the cheapest option for me
west ledge
hetzner <3
echo oar
on a server is crazy
echo oar
Honestly doesn't really matter where the server is if you use a cdn 
im sure this isnt entirely true but meh
muted bobcat
I use a cdn for bot assets (images)
echo oar
I use a cdn to serve anything static
images, html pages, etc
thats the point of cloudflare tbh
muted bobcat
Yeah my site uses cloudflare for that too
echo oar
I have a reverse proxy setup to route the object storage links through cloudflare
muted bobcat
Also did you know that you can save $300/year on geolocation APIs using Cloudflare's free tier?
echo oar
hm?
muted bobcat
They use Maxmind to update their database and that's a paid API
So you can pass geolocation data from the edge to your server using headers sent from cloudflare
echo oar
oh cool
muted bobcat
I use it for my regional pricing
echo oar
👍
muted bobcat
So US users see USD etc
echo oar
Honestly that might solve a lot of our issues down the road
Thanks for pointing that out
We were wondering how to tell what country they were in, which we are currently just sending as data over the api
echo oar
muted bobcat
You just get the country code in the header and from there you can route people wherever
I only offer USD, GBP and EUR so for Canadian users I show USD but with a USD mention.
steep bane
I am sad i have gone to 3 diffrent store for Para headphone
all of them is out of stock
echo oar
amazon time
echo oar
I only offer USD, GBP and EUR so for Canadian users I show USD but with a USD me...
nice nice, this will definitely be helpful for us
steep bane
amazon time
Not gonna pay like overprice for tax
west ledge
tax is like hell here
steep bane
Make it 4 store
echo oar
whats the tax rate there?
