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surprisingly hot here today too
meow
meow
My argument was not specific towards the Windows Server Manager, my point is that just because someone may need a guide to set something up and run doesn't mean it's not intuitive, sure some things may be easier on Windows to set up (especially with a GUI), but especially considering the fact that I've setup many CI systems around very large projects (Node.js, V8, LLVM, ICU, ...), it has always almost posed a new challenge to overcome when none of the other operating systems did, even when it comes to servers
Yes, which is why at the beginning of our conversation I had asked you to consider that servers are used for a wide array of things and your personal experience and workload is not necessarily the default experience
I am sure that for what you do, Windows Server isnt ideal
I never said it is the default experience either, and that's why I asked what you did and what software/tools you needed to use to set up such things, which may or may not be easier on Linux, Windows Server generally also has a lot more overhead compared to a Linux server, which is one of the main reasons this conversation started anyway
But then you made assumptions about the experience of installing and setting up those software instead of speaking from any kind of experience…
Windows server does have a lot more overhead
But for my case, that does not matter
Installing and setting up such things are generally easier on Linux, if you don't believe me specifically, you can ask anybody who has ever run a server, most of them will tell you the same
But of course that doesn't apply to everything, I am only going off the things you need to install to setup and run those projects you mentioned earlier
https://cockpit-project.org/ btw there's this
Cockpit makes it easy to administer your Linux servers via a web browser.
(and some 900+ other options)
I have more experience running linux servers than I do Windows ones, i only just started using Windows server this year, as opposed to linux which I have been actively using since 2017. Ive done everything I use my windows server for on linux, both with an without GUIs
hi
🍿
welp, back to making my descriptions readable
yknow i think you guys aren't very good at following guides/instructions
I wonder what particular software and tools you needed to install and set up such things on Linux that makes it harder, like what interpreters, runtimes, compilers, managers, and whatnot? I get there are GUI installers (since you're using GUI option) on Windows Server, though some things still are much harder to setup, since a good amount of convenient stuff can easily be setup in like one or two commands on Linux
Genuinely curious
Bros are writing essays each messages 💀
Looks nice, though you kinda look like this guy
Hello
@lilac geyser's first pfp
Old Luca 
omg SLAY it looks nice
Fuck off

Surely 
hi
hello
they pay as advertisement tho
You think I’m joking but you can seriously go fuck yourself
Ad on their own site , lol , also dev need withdrawal money
Shit like that is why I never show my face
they pay the dev 15$ for the first 100 votes

in vote credits
-credits
Auction Credits
What are credits?
- If enough people vote for your bot or server per month, you have the ability to earn vote credits that you can then use for auctions.
- Don’t know what auctions is? See here to learn more and here to participate.
- These auction credits can be used to pay for any winning bids you may make.
- You CANNOT “withdraw” them for real money.
How does the system work?
- Each month, bot monthly votes reset (midnight UTC).
- If you get 100 votes on your bot in the month, you can redeem $15 worth of voting credits (note: you can’t redeem till you actually get 101 votes).
- Any vote after 100 will be worth $1 per 1000 votes (or $.001 per 1 vote)
How do I redeem them?
- At the end of the month, you will be eligible to redeem your credits (you redeem them on your bot or server's Votes page). You will have 30 days to redeem them before they expire.
- After you redeem them, you have 31 days to use them before they expire.
How do I use vote credits to pay for Auctions?
- When you pay for your winning bid, you can "Pay with Credits".
- If your payment cost is more than the amount of credits you have, make sure to apply the credits first and then pay the rest with the supported payment providers.
You can read more about using your vote credits in our vote credit support article.
You can read more about Auctions in our Auctions support articles.
Can u transfer them in your bank , if no , it's not even money
It can be used in auctions along with money you have deposited
so it does have the same monetary value as money deposited into auctions
I'll top-up my balance on my server host
its not real money anymore then right

the payment to host your bot for free there is the money they make off ads
I mean, cant expect to be the only winning side
also
it's not like the site stays up by itself
@chilly cedar check weeb hq
weeb
weeb
fr
I'm sorry if that made you upset, you're literally the first person I've encountered that took it so seriously, there are a ton of my friends where we usually just do that for laughs, not a big deal because we know that it's all for jokes and laughs, but I suppose it was not the case for you
I get it, but I we've never joked like that so its hard for me to tell if you were serious and by the fact you showed no signs of saying sorry after I made it clear it was uncalled for
Yeah that's my fault, usually my friends respond with something like that in a joking manner, so I wasn't able to tell either
🤝?
I don't know what he said but you look fine btw
Host your bot free mean ?
Host on what site?
Something bad happened to crypto
Ok
another exchange booms
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Yeah as it turns out, we're over it now
oof
morning
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@strong spindle
nice nice
Which one was it this time
Good morning, @strong spindle @random linden @shadow bone @hollow tundra @fossil path , Driving rn, India, 05:42
you're in india?
india?
yes he is
:D
Hello
i was wondering if anyone knew of a bot that would fit my needs i cant find one i need a bot that can add names to a list with a grouping and then search said list to see what grouping that name is in its to keep track of alliances in a mmo
It'll probably be easier trying to find a bot for that specific game
sadly theres hardly anything online for said game sadly
sir that's called an excel spreadsheet
Mind saying the game?
i know its a excel spreadsheet but i cant for the life of me find a way to write or search excel sheets without writing a bot for it which im illiterate with code but ive done webhooks and stuff before and a single bot but i was wanting to see if something already existed or a easier way to do it before i code one
Mortal online 2 only been out for a year only has a few thousand players active
Do you have a budget? If so, you can try fiverr
To see if someone makes it for u
Otherwise...well
There might be bots not specifically for mmos, but have a feature that can be used for that
It'll still be very manual nonetheless, so google sheets is perhaps easier
There's also a way to use scripts in google sheets to make it send something through discord webhooks
realistically if you were making a bot like that you should just use a database
sounds like the perfect scenario for sqlite
Is there anything that's not a perfect scenario for sqlite lmao
anything that needs to scale
but beyond that
start with it and if you need to scale later you always can replace infra
Yep, sqlite being barebones makes it compatible with 99% of the sql databases
With little to no changes
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hai faithie
cool
Very rebel
no
yes
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hello
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dbl is dragon ball legend ?
Indeed
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that's kind of inappropiate to be sent to a new member
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Umm what are you doing in general?
welp
if my bot got refused I should dm the reviewer right?
if you feel like the decline is incorrect and want to dispute it
otherwise just resubmit
Note: better yet, I recommend to fix the issue before resubmit it
thats even better yeah
it's fine, just one command causing me troubles
fixed it now, lets see new decline excuse I can get
@steep bane had to back, i've mentioned the post and the platform to Brander and i'm translating/revising at Medal. Hope it contributes to you and the rest in some way and at some time. Have a nice day when you read it.
Good thing I manage to drag 3 person to help with it and one of them is @deft blaze
Lencheueueueueueueous
nice
gl cuz translating en to id is hard
nope
It would be easy for him thou, since he used to be a professional translator/proofreder
I don't think he wants tbh
why
i bet this site has less translations compared to Medal's
plus this site's proofreaders (daff and Takiyo) arent even doing anything atm
I amma apply then
I think its because of time, ever since he move to usa he doesn't have that much free time
then the same would go to translating Medal, no?
Idk how I convince him to do it tbh
wdym
I acctuly expected him to say no when I ask do you want
But the shockingly he said yes
I have a feeling he would say no tbh
just ask him
Still midnight, ill ask him in the morning
what time is it for you
Afternoon
2:30
am?
yea
you can still say morning even if you havent slept yet
oof
is it work
woke up this early because of it
yep
sadge
7:30
I had to wake up at 3:30 am once
I slept at 2:30
but that was for an international flight so ig i got my sleep back
hi
hi at urel
huh? huh? huh? huh? huh?
saw that misty
lmao
Huh? Huh? Huh?
Ooga BoogA

Greetings
Greetings
hai
Maybe I recommend you to wait up to 24h before you tag him
ok but why sir
Because we are all volunteers and have a life outside top.gg
ohk
i dont think there is something wrong to tag him im not saying him to reply within fraction of minutes
Wdm?
Welp where? It is just a beach and a sun with top.gg logo wearing a straw hat
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whats the problem lol
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Welp I amma try later
Well I haven't research it...
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Can u connect more the 1?
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Time to connect 6 welper. Website
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i thought i owned more domains but those expired
👻
Welp
I amma go back to linking account\
Dont check my current connection
still have arround 20 to go
not sure
@deft blaze made me do it
Proof you made me do it
yeah because linux package managers are always so up to date in node versions :)
via vc
...
but why do you have so many alts
Its @deft blaze Alt

Using wizards are satisfying ngl
what
that was definitely one of the things said this century
discord uses electron on every platform
and it doesn’t use ur local node version
i’m joking abt that fact if you try to apt install node you get like node 5

so winget is just a better linux package manager than linux package managers
Technically that's the fault of the repositories that the package manager communicates with, for example, the maintainers of the Ubuntu repositories for whatever reason don't bother to update the Node.js releases in the repositories
They really got Node.js v10 in there
yeah
so nobody installs through a package manager anyways
doing more linux things with windows than linux 💪

npm i node@18
nvm had some issues with fish so i ended up using volta
but for npm you need node 
yeah but that’d be so nice
cuz u can just change versions after it’s already installed
What kind of issues?
Note: nvm does not support Fish either (see #303). Alternatives exist, which are neither supported nor developed by us
- readme
almost 10 years
What the fuck is fish shell again
fish is a Unix shell with a focus on interactivity and usability. Fish is designed to give the user features by default, rather than by configuration. Fish is considered an exotic shell since it does not rigorously adhere to POSIX shell standards, at the discretion of the maintainers.
I dont blame em but it'd be nice to have it work
And also I use fish because I don't like having to manage configs and plugins, fish comes with nice qol features
I mean, there are lots of workarounds in that discussion that work really well
I consider volta an alternative
Yo how’s going guys?
hey
yes
Oi
seems fine for me now, is it okay for you now also?
Still down for me
ahh okay 👀
up for me yeah
IT WORKS, IT FUCKIN WORKS
@hardy sun finally managed to parse the expressions into a readable description
(yeah, portuguese cuz I didn't i18nized the cards' descriptions yet)
the raw description:
Consome {=100+max(0,$php-$bhp)} HP para causar o dobro do valor como dano degenerativo no oponente, a uma taxa de {=$pmp*2.2}% por turno.
That's very nice, good job
had to use a lot of recursion to reduce big formulas, but it worked well in the end
honestly simpler than I was expecting, cleaning the ast generator pattern helps a lot to reduce redundant nodes
the ast for the first expression in this case
Though I wonder, in what way is the user supposed to read the output of the first expression?
did you use a parser generator or did you hand roll it?
I think they used ANTLR4
ah yeah it seems quite nice to work with
the emojis show the name of the attribute on mouseover/click
the rest is just replacing the value
also there's the image of the card below that description, the intent of the desc is just to be able to show the cards' effect scalling
@lament latch thx for approving my bot!
You are welcome! 
Approve mine when
cant you just approve your own lol
That's nice
lol
Me who dont know how to approve a bot
That dont know how to review
oh
Hi
hello
Hello
hi hi
gn
gn

No
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you drunk?
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what for
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kekw
Why is moving so hard am in pain
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I will tell them to stop dw
Are they Lemurs? In that case imma keep them
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I have
St. John's wort, thyme and oregano tea
Oolong tea
Tea with lemongrass, mint and limo zest
Tea with currants and cranberries
What do I drink
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That is a lot of tea
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Oregano tea? Never heard of that
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Being drunk and on discord is not fun the day after trust me 
(Legal notice: I am prescribed and taking them due to medical condition dont ban me)
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Bene 👍
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Nah that's false and fake news
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its 3 in 1
Tea with St. John's wort, thyme and oregano
Who does?
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I'd say go for the lemongrass one
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I can highly advise not using discord when drunk due to my own experiences but that's me 
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Why do you have black tea if you do not like black tea
I used discord when wasted and I managed to save a life in that condition
Ordered it by a mistake
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That's a great cause but I don't think that's quite true. I believe you can absolutely be happy and hope you see that too in due time
Tea with currants and cranberries it is then
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I like Pokémon card
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Wait I'm actually stupid that's a Pokémon game
never played a Pokémon game
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A sham? Nahhh
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I've no Nintendo console smh
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Unemployed but studying in 10 days
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No this is a W
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Nah nom is going to a uni further west afaik
So I cannot pelt her with snowballs when it starts snowing unfortunately
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🤨
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I don't think I quite follow
been a long day so my brain ain't working right tho
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I think that'd be rather creepy
We frens online
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rescind is a good word I'm stealing that
My old English teacher always gave extra points for using nice words like that. Miss having lessons with ole Mr Hagman
finally back home
gooood morning
damn i thought you bought the gen 4 game at first
me
Yes
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nice
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Send pic!!!
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i played a lot of gen 3 lmao
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gen 3 is the peak frfr
Cant rn its 4:44am
most memorable imo
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How did u make food without waking your family up 😭
I made it yesterday
O
I mean i could make now and no one would wake up
Im sneaky af
Bolddesignz.com factory leak, filmed by me
I just saw a nerd on tiktok saying this "you're turning my software... to hardware"
u r turning my hardware to a software
good
Looks flat
hi misty
hi null
hello null
how's life been going for you
School starts Monday for me c:
that's the same for every student on earth

people in the southern hemisphere:
i live in the southern hemisphere
Funny my training starts monday at 6am in a place I can't get to cause no car 
I thought they start on Sunday since everything's opposite there /s
nah that only applies to Australia
its basically the same thing
Hi guys, im new here 😅🙏 where is the place to create images? Im tottally confused right now 👻🐼🙃 and nice to be here 🍀
bot.cpp
which images?
bot.asm
bot.vba
just said goodbye to smulan 😭 @chilly cedar @muted bobcat @ripe junco
wait rhat makes it sound like she died
shes still alive im just moving out
BJT I SOBBED WHILE PETTING HER
what happened with Smulan
she died
so I name the file to .PNG lol?
That field is broken rn
If you make the png text big, it can be fixed, it showed 😄
I did it lol but same issue
can you try jpg?
I'll see

yo wat
16 hours
if it could display how many days it'll be more
my record is 4 days
I rest at night
Gotham needs me at night
😄
always💪
NAURRR MY KITTY
@dusky vine @west ledge do not fear she is alive
Depressions istg
Get a better apartment that allows cats asap
im gonna miss her more than my parents ngl
Do you still occasionally visit your parents then
yeah i will like some weekends and stuff
plus i have a package otw to my parents house which i ordered like mid july

still hasnt arrived
Swag swag
omw to apartment 💪
guys isnt it fr crazy how i was like 16 when i got mod here and now im 19 and moving out😭
LMAOO
Smulan closing her eyes like: "you're not gone yet gurl but if I do this it's as if you were gone already" 💅
poggers

im glad

i keep emailing my state for the shitty instructions they provide
test
real
W
power consumption go brrrr
i put laptop on sleep
still
Not a problem if you're using a Mac 
Macs are better than Windows. Starting with the name obviously. Clearly superior.

pls bro
word it right
i was like what in the fuck
did you get an ikea ratta?
hello
What's a ratta
search it
Is this some American version of råtta
Cuddly
ur pfp literally said it
no💔
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LMFAOOOOOO
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Hi everyone
hi
Good day @strong spindle @tired ocean @shadow bone @random linden @fossil path, Sweden, 14:33
Good morning @hollow tundra @tired ocean @shadow bone @random linden, Brazil, 09:35
HELLO I AM WALKING @hollow tundra @hollow tundra @strong spindle @fossil path @shadow bone englandi, 13:38
pog what did you have for dinner
Welp why do i have 2 ghost ping here
frfr
i hate my math teacher so much
he writes everything in cursive 😭
i see
basically if you don't pay attention you're fucked
hell na fuck that
😭
why
@west ledge is this better
😎
Lets goo today marks the day where i have spent a total of ~25000sek (~2500$) on my motorcycle
who drew it
😭
@random linden is your avatar getting bigger every day
I remember seeing a full face before
now its staring in my soul
frfr
yes
Limit as x approaches 0 of sin(ax)/bx = a/b
We love special trig limits
frfr
i'm surprised at how you can read that kekw
true calc fan 💪
my math teacher abbreviates lots of things
gl
Just wait until you have to do integration by parts with an infinite loop with trig
fml

good afternoon, @random linden @strong spindle @hollow tundra @fossil path, at the race track, Ireland 15:59
i feel like ark is a game that everyone has in their library but no one plays it
yeah because it's in my epic games library and epic games should die
lol
I have GTA 5 on my Epic account but I never played it
so did i tbh,
yup
the "free" games thingy is just a facade
they're trying to get users to move to their so called ecosystem
i am not
Tim Sweeney is also a huge ass and delusional
lmao
last time I tried to use the epic games launcher it was unstable
it crashed a few times
Good evening @random linden @fossil path @hollow tundra @strong spindle @shadow bone , In a pub, India, 21:00
yeah, and for what reason
pain
UE for a damn launcher, why
it just seems like they hadn't paid much attention to the launcher
look how steam did it and look at how epic games did it
and gog is a good example too imo
gog is great for DRM free yeah
and it's not like they care for any platforms other than windows lmao
yup
they are basically forced now
i checked gogs launcher and yeah
pretty much lag free

all of these programs are goddamn chrome users
Welp Reason (Offline,Offline,Offline,Offline)
some of the source codes are copied and some of them use botghost XD
#mod-logs message
Best one IMO
L
why does my PC only have RGB fans and no way to turn of them off
unplug the rgb headers
Hello, I'm very new to making a Discord Bot and coding. I've coded a simple bot using node.js and the code runs fine, however I'm struggling to keep the bot online 24/7. Due to this my bot can't be added to Top.gg. Please can you help, thanks.
LOL
You can host your bot on an affordable vps or self-host on your own computer
how would I be able to do that?
vps or selfhost?
back in my days we used heroku free tier 👴
i miss it lol
get some then unplug them
i remember using two accounts so i can get full 24/7 on free tier
whenever my dyno expired i would just switch to another account
good times
yeah
@chilly cedar guess what
what
ok
shit
why
both, im quite new to all this
wha
Cov's humor: If a romantic guy likes to kiss his girlfriend's neck, is he a necromancer (neck-romancer)? 😗
truly a prisma illya moment
Hi
What in the fuck
we all just going to ignroe that?
👀
@hollow merlin #memes-and-media
Yes
Hows the FBI
Best edit ever
Ola
Hello
@chilly cedar non consent kissing happening help!
👀
banned
ty
Always homo
citrus lfg
gn burb
bruh
40 mins is luxurious
me yesterday
i couldnt even lay in my bed
there was a spider that i saw, i went to get something to kill it with, and when i came back like 20 sec later it was gone
aint trusting my bed
0h 0m of sleep
Thanks, im your only “pookie”
I got, an cut bruh
Someone, use “redo of healer” tyoe shit

Couldn't give a shit
yeah it'd be extremely smelly
wsp
i feel ya brother
in short, we need more sun
thank you for listening
fr

O vote
hello
bing
at least you have 8 hours of sleep
gm
hi
hi godder
damn
discord back with dem shitty filters
hru
heading back for school
yeah
Yey finally..... I spend around 6h bug fixing today and now it is fix....

what was wrong with mongo?
It does not want to write.... I tryed like 5h trying to figure out why, so at the end I had to change
where were you hosting it?
#development exists
Better yet, don't use it and have a headache
Atleast I have something to do today
Instead of doing Notting
wha
Although now it seem to be fixed using sql
Although i suck at sql
Well not suck but don't like it couse of my lecturer
you can always use an orm
Postgres is faster and more scalable than mysql though. If you need to use sql you should try postgres.
My team has some large projects and they run on mySql, I'd want to suggest them to migrate over to postgress
but i am pretty new there so i'll prolly just be quiet for a bit
Postgres is just faster when you have millions of rows to work with
Turns out just when i joined to the team they are migrating from aws to google cloud
and a bunch of other changes
postgres is way too complex to me
I swear everyone here rides postgres 💀
i dont
they are getting rid of prisma because it lacks support for Go
it's not even the best
It really isn't
It's almost exactly the same as mysql
The queries are almost the same. Especially for basic stuff there's no changes needed in a lot of simple cases.
mysql the real one doe
i barely understand sql
I used to use Mysql for everything for years but after I tried postgres for the first time I'd never go back and now i use it for everything.
it should all be caps it wouldn't work

like is it basically just storing data on a .db binary file
non caps queries still work
then my postgres is weird
never said thats postgres
so why have i been screaming this entire time
Skill issue?
perhaps
queries like these work fine
smh the docs are filled with screams then
at least on my mysql instance
yes just tested it on my db lmfao
Probably just to make it clear
no more screaming
All lowercase would work here too except for the column name
the column name is case sensitive yeah
for me the "Invoices" part has to be in " "
just depends on how you created it
Weird
postgres is weird
yup
well you can mark something being a table using `
Weird
*Graingergres
Albaniangres

It's probably some config thing
most likely
couldn't find anything online tho
Have you tried chatgpt? It's unironically pretty good at sql
copilot chat is pog too
Now i gotta find out how to scale the docker containers
Same
what is your bot about
SELECT name from topgg.members where state = "Never contribute to anything"
| Name |
|---|
| welper |
It uses AI to read chat and detect people posting fails then posts "Welp"
woooww thanks chatgpt
For example, you could create your table as "invoices" (all lowercase) instead of "Invoices", and then you can query it without quotes:
Market shop that is connected to another website (not discord bot)
market shop?
Ah none of my tables have a capital letter in front so maybe that's it
So basically what chatgpt told me is that postgres automaticall converts text to lowercase for some reason
A place to order stuff in indo via wa
I'd hate my tables on lowercase
I started out dev on WordPress so I've always known lowercase tables 
My bot's website is in PHP
That's the only PHP project I'm actively still working on
you use sentry for it?















