If The Overall Number Value Is Positive, Abandonment Should Not Occur

[left mauve]

What the title says

[upbeat agate]

It's even worse when buildings are abandoned and no icon shows on top of them.

[left mauve]

If The Overall Number Value Is Positive, Abandonment Should Not Occur

[left mauve]

This as well^

[inland stirrup]

Maybe abandoned as in moved to another home? Just because you do not hate your home, doesn't mean you won't move to a bigger one with a spouse or move closer to your job, or finish education and leave the low income housing for a nice bigger appartment juse because you can.

[stray creek]

I’ve found abandoned and there are no negatives at all

[stray creek]

If you follow a life path they love to move all the time but it shouldn’t result in abandonment

[small dawn]

Abandonment Logic needs to be reworked

[left mauve]

@small dawn why did you change the topic title? That is my specific suggestion

[small dawn]

Keep title in the sweet spot; this post will have more suggestion on other ways to make abandonment work better

You can edit your first message with your old title "If The Overall Number Value Is Positive, Abandonment Should Not Occur"

[left mauve]

If The Overall Number Value Is Positive, Abandonment Should Not Occur

With all due respect, I want the title to be specific on my suggestion. If people don't like it they don't like it. That's fine

[small dawn]

It is not about the people
Do you want to post suggestions just to post suggestions or to make the game better? It was done so that if/when anyone from the dev team looks at one thread, they can get ideas from everything regarding this particular topic

[left mauve]

I would like my suggestion to be specific lol. You are more then free to do this yourself

[inland stirrup]

well if everyone moves out of a building? Imagine half move out, the other half needs to pay for the full house so their effective rent is increased so they leave as well to find a better option. Suddenly everybody leaves unless there is a huge influx

[stray creek]

Yea but that’s not how the game works I don’t think

[inland stirrup]

are you sure?`As far as I know rent is shared onto all households and then between residents of the households

[stone dome]

I think the real issue here is there are no mechanics to actually show why a building was abandoned

[rose trellis]

I got an even worse example of how abandoning makes no sense to me:

[stone dome]

I had one where every number was green but the building still went abandoned

[rose trellis]

Yeah we need more input

[stone dome]

Right and nonresidential there is no data why it's abandoned at all

[stone dome]

No its because currently the only info is the happiness rating of the last tenant buisness don't have happiness ratings

[tired sierra]

exactly!! like what am i supposed to do?

it's high density ofc the homes are small, that's out of my control

[inland stirrup]

You can't and you are not supposed to. It just shows you that the small homes need to be balanced out by good walkability, parks, low land value (low rent) and good public transport connection, for the inhabitants to be happy. There will be stuff you can not chnage

Which is why low rent housing only really works beside education buildings and rural industry (because dense industry increases land value around it, due to walkablility to jobs)

but let's be honest, that is realistic. You won't find affordable low rent homes in the city center

[rose trellis]

From what I can see that's fine, but currently there is no way to reduce land value, and land value shouldn't increase across the board when the air and ground is polluted :/

[inland stirrup]

true, but as someone living 500m from his work, I get why it's attractive. Maybe industry, commercial and offices should increase landvalue around them, but not in the direct vicinity (except for offices), because of pollutions of all kind (noise, ground and air)

as well as generated traffic of course

[stone dome]

I mean technically irl the land value in most industrial parks is higher then most residential areas. Because land value includes all structures built on the land, not just the land itself.

[inland stirrup]

so it is actually quite realistic? I noticed not only does the land value rise the more industry is build close to each other, but also the roadmarking for "zone suitability" shrinks in the very high value center of the industrial park. Probably because industry is probably paying quite high rent being surrounded by other industry and getting basicly no transport cost of goods from and to other companies there