EPISODE 1

[daring mason]

"there use to be a woman, darla"
Ghoul, how we explain this to you

[untold socket]

It's Carla, not Darla.

[worthy warren]

Darla isnt in the game

[daring mason]

Translation thing, sorry

[worthy warren]

Or mentioned

[untold socket]

No, we're saying Darla doesn't exist. Haha, at least not in NV

People were getting Darla and Carla confused.

[daring mason]

I thought he was talking about the novac shopkeeper

[worthy warren]

He was referencing somebody from 10 years before the game

[flint adder]

Excellent ep. No clue why people on Twitter are claiming that’s Anthony.

Robert evidentially uses a body double

[untold socket]

That's Jeannie May Crawford.

[sonic kettle]

I think we just have to remember that basically Pre War America had no real morals

[daring mason]

Missed chance

[untold socket]

Agreed, Anthony is too insane to be out in public.

[worthy warren]

The guy on the tv was totally different than the other house right?

[south pumice]

again in the ending slides it's said that he's proud of his choice in lieutenants when you're playing a good karma courier. mr house is obviously selfish but the show ramps it up to him literally murdering people on the street

[untold socket]

Again for the sake of PROGRESSION. This is the key point you are missing.

[daring mason]

Missed oportunity to ghoul tell the khans
"You didnt learn Anything about bitter Springs?"

[south pumice]

this new casting for house is pretty good

[worthy warren]

House literally has his securitrons mow down poor people if they try to go to the strip

[hallow flint]

Yeah

[sonic kettle]

House also abandons freeside and doesn't care about it

[untold socket]

Yeah, I'm pretty confident it's a body double used for public image, while House has more time on his hands to do whatever he wants. Cause we know his goal is progression - him being in two places at once, enables him to do just that.

[sonic kettle]

We just don't seem him commit actual violence because he can't

[daring mason]

Norm seems Will be this s2:
Quest Added
LIKE THE GOOD OLD TIMES.
[] Get a Water Chip.

[sonic kettle]

He is no doubt a violent man

[worthy warren]

The only reason house doesn’t kill people is if there isn’t a reason or they are useful.

[untold socket]

I know some people think that it's Anthony, but not only did Anthony LOATHE Robert, but Anthony is a super mentally unstable person, to the point where Anthony is convinced House is out to kill him(for good reason), and locks himself down and all of his employees in the H&H building and kills himself and everyone so Robert can't get him, or his company.

[daring mason]

Im curious if who is really the REAL house, cuz the series showed us 2 versions
The s1 who Even appears in S2
And the S2 house

[untold socket]

House is the one who was in the bar, that's the real one.

[sonic kettle]

The real house is Justin Theroux's character

[worthy warren]

Since season 1 house is on tv he is probably the double

[untold socket]

The one in the meeting is the body double. Justin Theroux is confirmed to be the real House.

[hallow flint]

The real house is definitely the bigger actor

[sonic kettle]

You dont hire a big actor to be the double

[south pumice]

testing mind control devices on random people in bars does not in any way help him with his goal of interstellar colonization, it's just insane

[worthy warren]

I’ve never heard of this guy before the show lol

[worthy warren]

They aren’t random people, they were protestors

[sonic kettle]

It's also Justin's face on lucky 38 terminal

[south pumice]

to prevent riots and maintain order on the strip by any means necessary

it is bad yeah but it's done for a reason

[worthy warren]

He just hates poors actually

[untold socket]

I don't know how else to tell you, Mr House used Unionists as test subjects to see how the device worked - and to mentally document it's progression, i don't know how you don't understand this but we'll just agree to disagree.

[daring mason]

Good, cuz he didnt seemed that Smart since i saw the intro and i was like
"This cant be My platinum chip vtuber!"

[daring mason]

Understandable

[worthy warren]

“No the billionaire can’t be a bad guy, that’s impossible”

House is a master manipulator that tells people what they want to hear to achieve his goals

[untold socket]

The thing is, I know House is a violent dickhead, but I still enjoy his character lol He's not a moral righteous, or morally high horse type of guy. He does everything in the name of progression of his agenda and advancement of humanity. GOOD or BAD. He doesn't care.

[south pumice]

also I expect house to be really pissed off at hank for destroying his number one source of income

[worthy warren]

I agree with this 100, but he only sees it as progress for humanity if he’s on top

[calm raven]

I just learned the hard way, do NOT quote flea soup lady in the chat

[daring mason]

NCR?

[south pumice]

yeah

[worthy warren]

House never had any backup plans for his death, he did not care what happens to humanity past his own life

[untold socket]

Yeah, and even if he's not on top? He's angling for that position, always. This is confirmed in the cut-NCR/House alliance ending, too.

[daring mason]

Yall think the Great khans are in ruins or they just took novac as a HQ?

[worthy warren]

He didn’t try to raise a successor ever, only lieutenants to do his dirty work

[south pumice]

debatable considering they're not gonna provide a canon ending for new vegas

[lament lichen]

Even so, post-War, House at least needed the NCR around and in good shape for his plans to work. Might’ve been Plan B due to whatever happened to the Platinum Chip to delay its arrival, but it is what it is. Hank’s antics might as well have nuked those plans harder than the Divide.

[south pumice]

he could have an ai version of himself if he were to die

[faint sail]

munch munch munch

[untold socket]

This is 100% true.

[worthy warren]

Debatable? We see that in game, he says he’s humanities only hope and that’s why you shouldn’t kill him then basically everything shuts down when he dies

[daring mason]

I can't still thinking moldaver is just a pitty arrogant piece of shit
The show just didnt showed up that much

[faint sail]

im very interested in finding out what's up with cooper's wife and kid

[untold socket]

Moldaver is a decent character, she just doesn't know as much as she thinks she knows.

[worthy warren]

Moldaver is a bad person but she is right

[faint sail]

it would be hilariously realistic to just go "oh yeah they're dead. they died 200 years ago stupid lol"

[lament lichen]

Yeah, I half expect her to be the reason the Platinum Chip didn’t arrive in time.

[untold socket]

Like her assuming House was the one who was gonna bomb the U.S. made me laugh.

[short merlin]

coopers wife and kid are most likely safe with vault-tec, cooper was denied entry into the vault due to his coordination with moldaver

[daring mason]

Im thinking somehow most of this had done only for pitty for her work, rather a "save the world"

[short merlin]

could and would make sense aswell, honestly that couldve been a nice interesting way to wrap up the whole hope in the wasteland arc

[trim niche]

Anybody think Bud sounds a lot like Yes Man? It's like the same passive aggressive tone, same pitch

[untold socket]

Yeah, he reminded of Yes Man's "That's not funny" lines specifically.

[short merlin]

coopers mission is over, but he cares for lucy and maximus, so he ends up rebuilding with those two and the dwellers, rebuilding america as it should be ™

[faint sail]

if they're safe and warm with vault tec, i wonder if his wife has had a chance to get into her daughter's head
daddy bad vault tec good

[lament lichen]

He honestly came off more like half Yes-Man, half Muggy.

[trim niche]

for me it was specifically the "That's not aiding an enemy! Not when YOU do it!"

[daring mason]

"You just freed all those executives of vaultek at the vault... Really?"

[trim niche]

does kinda sound like muggy too

[untold socket]

It makes me laugh though that they really did refuse to give him a Robobrain model, they stuck him on a roomba. 😂

[lament lichen]

Vault-Tec be like that.

[faint sail]

Is the next episode going to drop on Wednesday as it was originally intended, or are we getting Tuesdays? I'll cope and hope for Tuesdays 😭

[daring mason]

So, norm Will get a water chip with all the executives of vaultek?

[trim niche]

"I can't believe how BRAVE you were to free.. ALL those executives at the Vault! ..y'know?" 😭

[untold socket]

i think they all leave the vault, but the bud's buds go with Hank.

At least that's what it looked like in the season trailer

[faint sail]

Unchecked capitalism can continue on!
Can I interest you in a vault spot?

[trim niche]

we get to hear Victor's voice.. im kicking my feet and giggling

[worthy warren]

The buds probably go with Hank but I think norm will convince them to switch sides eventually

[daring mason]

" i mean, i think they are here for being free and lead once the surface is secure... You know, the whole point of your dad meltdown"

[worthy warren]

Seems like Hank is a traitor to vault tec

Maybe the buds will find issue with that

[daring mason]

I think a kind of, but not all

[trim niche]

yup, calling house on that last scene im pretty sure

[south pumice]

I'm interested in the relationship between vault tec and the enclave

seems like the two had a falling out before the great war

[worthy warren]

Hank isn’t an executive, he’s an executive assistant. There are more important higher ups frozen besides him

[daring mason]

Enclave gave tax money

[worthy warren]

The shadow figure during the meeting seemed to be enclave related

[untold socket]

I'm pretty sure this is confirmed in the old lore, but im not 100% certain.

[worthy warren]

We also know from fallout 1 that the enclave had an observation vault built to monitor all the other vaults

[daring mason]

Indeed.

[untold socket]

Yeah, look at Barb's facial reactions each time she looked at him.

[worthy warren]

2 not 1

[untold socket]

It almost looked like fear to me.

[worthy warren]

Enclave controls vault tec but it’s not direct control. There are a few layers between them

[untold socket]

TO BE FAIR - we still don't have a Vault Tec CEO, either, so if they make/introduce one, it'll be an entire whole new character.

[daring mason]

Maybe it was colonel autumn decendant 🤓 🙏

[worthy warren]

Descendant?

[daring mason]

(just kidding, dont take it serious)

[worthy warren]

You mean ancestor?

[daring mason]

That shit, yea

Nate had only one task and it was shitting on BoS while searching for his son

ONLY ONE TASK YOUR GODDAMN RAKE

[sonic kettle]

John Henry Eden returned

[daring mason]

God bless our president

[sonic kettle]

And baseball

[trim niche]

in fo3 I told eden he skill issued so hard he blew himself up

[daring mason]

Im 100% colonel autumn was doing more a president/leader task rather just a colonel lmao

[untold socket]

it's kinda wild cause it only makes 2 endings possible, BoS, or Minutemen/BoS.

Unless they wanna be wild and consider the cut ending for FO4 with BoS, Railroad, and Minutemen canon but idk about that - that's a huge stretch.

[daring mason]

Guess power armor was way cool for him and reminds the good old days of being the rake

[worthy warren]

Nate is racist confirmed

[daring mason]

Roboracist

[flint adder]

Yes. It was the chap from Season 1

100% a body double

[faint sail]

Wouldn't be surprised if he is, jokes aside. I can't see him considering the Chinese his favorite people.

[daring mason]

YU CLANKIE 🗣️

[faint sail]

Fighting in Anchorage and all.

[untold socket]

Man, the dialogue you can use on the chinese ghoul? Sheeeesh.

[trim niche]

i want a fo4 mod where if you take nick as a companion to the bos they call him clanker instead of their usual lines when you pass by

[daring mason]

Once a writter told Nate appeared on the F1 intro, and yea
He was the one shooting the guy

[faint sail]

I think they went back on that. Even then, he said he was the guy laughing, not the one shooting.

[daring mason]

It blew up that info so much they had to clean that canon mess up lmao

[daring mason]

Yeah, 100% canon for me

Fallout 4 being about a vet. War criminal married to a lawyer who clean up his ass of jail is just a canon fun

[peak sentinel]

I couldnt tell if this was a twin peaks reference or not in the show but good to see Dale cooper possess hank for a couple of seconds (same va)

[untold socket]

Definitely was.

[flint adder]

The one thing I missed from this episode was Maximus

[untold socket]

Soon™

[daring mason]

Dude there is already like 50 subplots

Chill

[peak sentinel]

Maxmius is definitely episode 2

[untold socket]

I'm very curious how the Brotherhood Civil War will play out.

[hallow flint]

He is

[flint adder]

Did anyone catch you know who in the next-time trailer?

[daring mason]

Just as always

[trim niche]

as a professional victor kisser he better be in episode 2 too

[upbeat pumice]

I think we already seen the House double theory in action
That could kinda explain why some people feel there's a mischaracterization

Plus that one line at the bar

[untold socket]

That's the point.

[peak sentinel]

I did sorta map out where lucy and coop went.

and where vault 24 might be

[flint adder]

Love the canonisation of Vault 24

[untold socket]

That line at the bar is a red herring, I'll bet money on it. I think some people took it too far with assuming it's Anthony, but they'd never be seen together.

[daring mason]

Redditors are crazy ones

[upbeat pumice]

Now I do have to wonder
What does Primm have to do with it if we are to see it next episode for example

[peak sentinel]

your guess is good as mine. I've visited nevada before but I know that would essentially be a U turn. since Primm is more down south.

[daring mason]

Me seeing how S3 lead them to capital wasteland:

[peak sentinel]

I'm not making any assumptions but I guess we'll see

[faint sail]

Helios One being that close to Novac throws me off, considering most of the show's set design seems like it seeks to push things further away from in-game scaling as opposed to closer to it.

Vegas is enormous, Novac being bigger, etc etc

[daring mason]

Imaging if kulking character is just arcade gannon playing caesar lmao

[untold socket]

He might be Lanius from the picture leak, I think. But we don't know yet.

[flat cosmos]

So, it's now confirmed that there is the vault tec headquarters vault?

[untold socket]

If it's true, then Lanius at least became a mantle like Ulysses said.

[daring mason]

There isn't just a lanius, lanius is more a fachade

[peak sentinel]

it looks way more closer in the show than in the game tbh lol.

also no old lady gibson's shack rip.

[vocal flume]

I don't think its a House double. Think it's his half-brother. And he is actively trying to bring about the nukes just because of his disdain for Robert

[untold socket]

Nah, Anthony is way to mentally unstable for any type of work that is being presented in the show.

[faint sail]

Yeah, I'm saying I'd assume it'd be farther. Stuff in game is so close to each other for game scaling and should be imagined as much further, so bringing it closer is a little confusing regarding all the scaling and stuff.

[daring mason]

Literally the whole plot of mr house it was cuz he was rejected by family herence and his half brother rejected him lmao

[untold socket]

I don't think people understand Anthony does not function like a normal human being. Lol he's quite literally psychotic to the point where he'd be wearing a conehead and making a scene of himself in public.

Anthony is described to be like the typical conspiracy nut-job, who just happened to inherit the H&H company. He's not capable of being present or public like that.

[peak sentinel]

the cynic in me is thinking that they did it like that so they could get bonus points for mentioning helios one

[daring mason]

So, mcfee?

[peak sentinel]

but also I feel like the geography of the show is a little weird

[faint sail]

it's definitely off, though it's stupid to expect it to be exact

[untold socket]

It's on a larger scale, but also a little off - it won't be exact, they'll try to get it close but we can't expect 1 to 1.

[untold socket]

Worse.

[peak sentinel]

Oh definitely I'm not counting points off it or anything translating a video game to the real location isnt exactly one to one.

[untold socket]

Anthony is incapable of being in any type of public facing position. His schizophrenia and paranoia prevent him from doing so. He literally thinks Robert controls everyone and doesn't trust a single employee. Hence why he trapped them all in H&H and killed them all and himself so Robert couldn't get him.

[peak sentinel]

even FNV isnt entirely accurate to nevada

[wind hinge]

Its off from the start since its no longer a wasteland since they said in the episode he was able to shoot the bombs down in the area and you could see greenery near vegas

I mean its still a wasteland im not saying it was "saved" but you get what i mean

[faint sail]

ofc ofc

I didn't notice the greenery myself. Good catch

[peak sentinel]

oh shoot I didnt notice

[untold socket]

Think we also have to acknowledge that despite Radiation, nature is the true ruler of the Wasteland so it is inevitable that vegetation will return.

[wind hinge]

Yep see what I mean!

I took a bit of a wide shot with the characters

[worthy warren]

That is nv canon

[untold socket]

A lot more towns and settlements outside and around Vegas, too.

[peak sentinel]

wouldnt be surprised if someone adds vault 24 as a mod to fnv

[wind hinge]

I don't remember THAT much green in NV

[peak sentinel]

im counting the days as we speak

[terse sable]

Helios One is REALLY close to Novac then

[wind hinge]

I remember the undetonated bomb with the wildwastland perk

[worthy warren]

There are bannana Yukka and Joshua trees everywhere

And the shooting down bombs thing was establish in the game

[peak sentinel]

yeah house mentions it if you talk to him

[worthy warren]

Raul talks about it

[wind hinge]

Ill have to replay again then I still dont remember that much green

Gotta start the day but I cant wait to chat it all up with you all! Loved the episode

[worthy warren]

https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_Flora

[peak sentinel]

I know nevada pretty much just looks like this but i get what you mean

[worthy warren]

Also new Vegas takes places in October so it’s gonna be less green then usual

People forget about seasons in fallout

Since time is basically frozen in the games

[peak sentinel]

especially since fallout nv is basically turning fallout 3, a greyish looking game into a more orange and green looking game. is hard to translate

oh yeah that too

its funny because it should snow like crazy if its winter in fallout 4.

[worthy warren]

Yeah seasons have basically always been ignored by Bethesda sadly, it would add cool mechanics to the games

[vivid sedge]

Anyone have a screenshot of lanius in the show?

[worthy warren]

We don’t know if he’s in the show so no

[peak sentinel]

it would be a lot of work to implement realistically.

a seasonal weather system where the entire map changes textures, models and such would be a lot

[worthy warren]

I think games that take decades to make could figure it out ngl

[peak sentinel]

maybe, but knowing bethesda, they're making the next ES game, so we wont see a new game for a long time

[untold socket]

It's not a matter that they can't figure it out, it's that it'd be so intense most of us wouldn't even have the hardware to play it. Lol

[worthy warren]

How would it be intense?

[solid moss]

The only thing that would be intense is the crashing

[worthy warren]

Like Skyrim already has mos of the season just in different regions, it wouldn’t have all textures loaded at the same time lol

[untold socket]

Most weather systems, even as mods are super intensive graphics wise on pc systems. A good example are the weather mods for skyrim, unless you have a beefed rig, it's gonna cause a lot of issues. The average gamer/consumer doesn't have a rig supported for it.

[worthy warren]

Just swap them out based on date

[daring mason]

Boone leaves for a minute*
Manny Vargas:
Yesterday the great khans took over novac

[worthy warren]

I don’t care about having intense storms, just change the ground and flora textures

Like literally just make them more or less green and maybe make the ground snowy

[solid moss]

Optimisation my guy

[peak sentinel]

well theres programming the system, making 4 variants of every model object in game. then counting if they're under the buildings or inside buildings.

[worthy warren]

Modern devs can’t do that

[peak sentinel]

then QA teams have to test that system

[daring mason]

You Will if ram price still raising up

[solid moss]

Well yes but still
Its an option

[peak sentinel]

and this engine is built on duct tape lmao

[untold socket]

Again, your average consumer/player doesn't do that. That's the problem.

[worthy warren]

Fam it isn’t that complex really, most of the textures are reused.

[lament lichen]

And also whipped up a swimming pool but forgot to put in any water.

[daring mason]

Modern devs when You ask them to optimize their Game:

[worthy warren]

If modders can do it developers with the full dev kit could do it

[untold socket]

Yeah where tf did the swimming pool come from???

[daring mason]

(well done Manny, You really sabe that day)

[worthy warren]

Y’all, the game worlds have never been exact representations of the in lore world

[daring mason]

Maybe they built it up
With the heat of new Vegas

[worthy warren]

They are shrunk down versions with details missing

[daring mason]

Who won't like to get a pool with water

[solid moss]

Simple
They changed it

[untold socket]

Inb4 someone adds it in as a mod.

[daring mason]

Bethesta, update new Vegas and recton your shit 🗣️

[worthy warren]

The exterior of vault 15 is completely different between 1 and 2

[solid moss]

Its a desert and it doesnt rain
There wouldnt be water in the pool to begin with

[solid moss]

It literally doesnt change anything
All that changed is novac is under great khans control and no longer

[daring mason]

The water system to new vegas/ncr ?

[hallow flint]

This is definitely Macaulay culkin

[worthy warren]

Wastelanders wouldn’t waste water on an outdoor pool

[untold socket]

Lanius maaaantle

[peak sentinel]

boone wearing swiming pants that say I miss my dead wife. as hes in the swimming pool with a floaty ducky

[worthy warren]

Where is this from?

[daring mason]

Arcade gannon as legión leader theory

[solid moss]

What?

[daring mason]

He raided Amazon HQ and stole it

[flint adder]

I enjoy how much larger they made New Vegas

No limitations with TV

[worthy warren]

Same

Is Helios one behind Novac? Or is it a stylized water tower?

[solid moss]

Ah yes
Its great
The game really with it engine limit made it so small that you begin to question why house bother saved it to begin with

[hallow flint]

The new trailer they show at the end of the episode

[flint adder]

Exactly. It’s tiny in the game

[worthy warren]

I rewatched it twice lol I’m blind

[untold socket]

Lol

[flint adder]

Vegas now feels like a proper city

[lament lichen]

It'd be cool if we saw House's missile defense system at work during the Great War.

[peak sentinel]

i think they'll save that for like a episode 7 or episode 8 sorta thing

[worthy warren]

I bet we will

[lament lichen]

True, that's where I'd expect to see it.

[untold socket]

I second that, I would love to get that - I'm hoping the Anchorage Flashback is really good. Especially cause it's gonna be at nighttime.

[daring mason]

Yall think moldaver did all her stuff only for pitty for her work? Rather saving the world

[hallow flint]

We have Two new trailers

[flint adder]

I’m sure we’ll see it

[solid moss]

Now now now
There are like 500 things that was thrown to us in the first episode
Its not unfair for one to be state they are blind when the show casually shows that hank was apparently working for house or someone else

[flint adder]

LANIUS!!!

[lament lichen]

Maybe that with a touch of tunnel vision.

[flint adder]

That’s 100% Culkin under the helmet

[peak sentinel]

1. "lucy we are FUCKED"

2. oh god speech 100 is canon

[untold socket]

They took Ulysses's words and ran with it. 100%.

[lament lichen]

Ave, true to Kevin.

[solid moss]

I havent seen it yet
Should watch it

[daring mason]

Wdym?

[worthy warren]

Bruh

Oh the trailer not the ep

[lament lichen]

Throwing hands with House and not thinking of other potential explanations.

[untold socket]

Cause the concept pretty much comes from Ulysses when you question him about Lanius. He heavily implies Lanius is a mantle and a symbol that the Legion needs. That they don't even know if it's the same dude underneath or not anymore.

[worthy warren]

I think moldaver is legit about trying to save the world, she is still a bad person

[daring mason]

For me is just lying to lanius telling him is all plan is the plan it self of NCR
And make him be afraid of the First war of hoover dam

[solid moss]

Yeah obviously XD

[worthy warren]

Yeah they would totally jus make a new lanius if he died like

[untold socket]

Oh of course

[daring mason]

Thats why im telling she is doing all the stuff she did only for The pitty of her work

[untold socket]

Or someone takes his armor and just continues being him.

[lament lichen]

Last one might've gotten blammed by the Courier fifteen years ago for all we know.

[solid moss]

Unfournately though
Just like many things
Aint no body know what we supposed to know

[worthy warren]

I mean I would also try to stop the nukes so I do t get nuked lol

[daring mason]

Yall really think mr house needed the cold down project for the missile stuff?

[lament lichen]

Maybe the Platinum Chip had a cold fusion chip hidden in it?

[daring mason]

The villain is just yapping fr

[worthy warren]

In lore it wasn’t fully operational

[solid moss]

We dont know what hank end goal is, we dont know who he works for, we dont why house is obsessed with brain chips, what are the brain chips.
Heck some people are confused if there are 2 houses and some people even stated that the house in new vegas is actually a double or something

[untold socket]

The cold fusion? It wouldn't have hurt. But Mr House was confident he could've saved Vegas with just the platinum chip.

[worthy warren]

Maybe that’s why

[daring mason]

Thats why he needed the platinum chip.

[worthy warren]

Pro que no Los dos

Or maybe the fusion was for another post war plan

Like not needing the dam at all

[untold socket]

I'm sure it was for another plan, unrelated to House.

Or Vegas.

[worthy warren]

I mean moldaver says house is buying it lol

[daring mason]

Maybe house bought the cold down project so he made the platinum chip

[untold socket]

Yeah but she's also not the smartest, just because a character says something doesn't mean it's true. She also said House was gonna bomb America cause he had missiles, when in reality it was his defense system

Characters can't be wrong in their perspective. It's important to use context clues of what we know.

[solid moss]

Its so interesting when she says that
Because its wrong but also techinally in a way right

[worthy warren]

So you are saying house wouldn’t want to buy the unlimited energy pill?

[solid moss]

House had something in new vegas
She just thought he was gonna use it to nuke US when it was gonna save new vegas

[lament lichen]

Hence why maybe Cooper or Moldaver is the reason why the Platinum Chip gets delayed in arriving, thus sabotaging House's initial plan?

[untold socket]

I'm saying we don't know and shouldn't take her word for it when she's already getting information wrong. We should wait and see.

[worthy warren]

I would bet 100000 caps he is going to try to buy it lol

[vivid sedge]

Plus this woman also killed people to justify her needs. She's no better than house

[untold socket]

Yeah, cause HE HAD MISSILES but they were for defense. Lol

[lament lichen]

Don't forget he also had laser cannons if memory serves.

[solid moss]

Oh yeah
She casually raids a settlement, uses raider, managed to get some of the NCR to support her and somehow got people to worship her
She clearly willing to do whatever it takes

[worthy warren]

It was a fair assumption she made, knowing there is a deal to buy cold fusion also seems like insider information to some degree, she knew the meeting with house was coming up so she knows some legit intel

[untold socket]

Yeah he had a bunch of defense systems, but she saw missiles and was like, "Oh he's gonna bomb us all."

[lament lichen]

That cult stuff was a major turnoff, like who does this rando pre-War scientist lady think she is, the Vault Dweller reborn or something?

[worthy warren]

That seems like very sound logic lol

[untold socket]

I severely disagree, but that's just me. Lol

[worthy warren]

The cult could be the creation of the vault 4 people his being crazy

[solid moss]

And to be fair
It also helps that house was in the meeting
Or his double was
So she knows something

[worthy warren]

What seems more likely, using a missile to attack somebody or to hit nukes mid air?

Like the defense usage is kinda a curveball myself wouldn’t assume

[solid moss]

But its also a genius writing design
Because obviously fallout fans know the real truth, house system is actually defending nukes
But people who watch the show but doesnt know the lore of new vegas wouldnt know

[untold socket]

Yeah Moldaver isn't any better, is my point. So she shouldn't be trusted OVER House when she's getting information on him wrong, information that Cooper literally confirms against in a scene earlier when mentioning House saved Vegas.

[worthy warren]

He will learn the truth from house in their meeting

[untold socket]

It is nonsensical to think the man who owns half the city is going to randomly blow it up and lose his entire investment just because...? 💀 I agree House is a dickhead, but the logic doesn't stick at all.

[solid moss]

To be fair
As double said
She isnt wrong per say, she just doesnt have the full picture

[worthy warren]

Also you are assuming house couldn’t use the missiles for both

Using a missile for attack vs defense is much easier

[untold socket]

No, he definitely could. I said he wouldn't and wasn't going to. There's difference, and my logic stands that he didn't. Lol

[bold karma]

big iron

[vivid sedge]

No way his missiles could reach China with what we know from the game

[worthy warren]

We know he didn’t because of insider information she doesn’t have

[worthy warren]

Doesn’t have to, he could nuke America and set off the chain reaction

If America gets hit with a missile they will just assume it was china

[solid moss]

But here a problem with your logic
If he could nuke America, why in the world would he do it before he got the platinum chip

[vivid sedge]

Why would he nuke America when he invested so much in said country to get to his status?

[untold socket]

This.

[vivid sedge]

The wasteland has a lot of uknown variables, while pre war America he partially controlled

[worthy warren]

Because he didn’t do it. That’s assume

1. This is his plan
2. China didn’t get to it first against his predictions

[untold socket]

House has an ego, and there's zero chance he would do anything like that. He controlled so much of pre-war America is nonsense to assume he'd destroy it when his goal is to be on top.

[worthy warren]

He is a billionaire, it’s fair to assume he would have massive bunkers (that we see in game) to protect the shit he cares about. He also knows vault tec is planning on starting the war but he would want to be first to have the advantage post war

[lament lichen]

How would nuking America serve his overall plans? There's a reason he or at least his body double seemed 'meh' on the whole Vault concept.

[vivid sedge]

Plus he knew he wasn't prepared for the end just yet, why would he willingly go into system crashes and a coma for decades, unable to defend his empire he built

[worthy warren]

You are viewing this from a players perspective. Moldaver only knows this

1. House has missiles
2. He was just in a meeting where he discussed ending the world.

You have 3rd party information she doesn’t

Also like I said she think he has a plan to. Not that he does

[vivid sedge]

But yet she has info on vault tecs inner workings?

[solid moss]

And even then
The hell would he need to nuke US for?
He could literally not nuke US to begin with
Its as Mausipoo said it
He spend many years building his stuff in the pre-war
Why would he want to reset again?
House is many thing, ego, intelligent, etc
But this cannot be one of them

[peak sentinel]

Everyone has nefarious goals tbh its kinda true to the series

[vivid sedge]

I call bullshit. She's using coop

[peak sentinel]

And pretty accurate

[lament lichen]

Oh, true true; wonder if Moldaver ever found out the truth after the War, or if she died ignorant.

[untold socket]

Of course she's using Coop, it's obvious.

[untold socket]

She probably found out, but probably found a new goal in regards to Lucy's mom and building a better world with Cold Fusion.

She probably wanted to see that through.

[worthy warren]

Okay so he knows vault tec will eventually end the world to get an advantage. Are you saying house wouldn’t try to do it first to get a head start and be the true winner?

Catch vault tec off guard

[lament lichen]

House wouldn't dare even think of doing that before he got the Platinum Chip.

[worthy warren]

Holy shit

[untold socket]

No he wouldn't and he didn't. Lol

[worthy warren]

Having a plan and doing it are very different things, people can have plans that don’t happen you guys know this right?

[lament lichen]

Of course.

[worthy warren]

Just like vault tec who didn’t get to use their nuke plan because China did it first

[vivid sedge]

But he knows for sure he can lose his empire from him crashing

[peak sentinel]

But house was probably using vault tec to his advantage right? Not as a team up but to use them right?

[untold socket]

Yes but Mr House is extremely anal about his plans. He's a number cruncher. His biggest issue in regards to his plans, as he says, is human folly.

[worthy warren]

Both house and vault tec were caught off guard

[vivid sedge]

House would never gamble on a bet that bad

[solid moss]

Yeah but that is just insanely illogical
Sure an advantage, techinally but even tehn, vault tec still succeeded even after random nukes came

[worthy warren]

So what would house do instead?

[untold socket]

House definitely used them to his advantage, for information, and to gather what the plan was. But I assume he was off by his calculations of the bombs dropping because China fired first, 12 hours earlier POTENTIALLY before Vault Tec planned to.

[worthy warren]

He knows

1. The war is going to happen eventually if left to China and USA
2. Vault tec is trying to start it themselves early

[lament lichen]

Hence why he probably got sucker-punched by either the Courier turning on him or Hank nuking Shady Sands and wrecking his primary income source.

[worthy warren]

Him starting the war wouldn’t be a disadvantage but an advantage over vault tec.

Now that is a plan. Not what happened

[solid moss]

Shrugs
Maybe do what he was doing and getting the platinum chip and prepare for one?

[worthy warren]

That was his plan holy shit, his plan didn’t work because China nuked first against the timeline

You keep assuming he did send the nuke

[solid moss]

Yes that was the plan
The one where you saying he gets it and fire nukes to make vualt tec caught off gaurd is insane

[untold socket]

No it would not, because it would quite literally interfere with his pre-war endeavors? And he's still in the process of securing the chip. And every action house has done has shown he's for PROGRESSION and PRESERVATION with him at the top. He doesn't care otherwise.

[worthy warren]

How?

[worthy warren]

Christ, I am saying his plan may have been to launch after getting the chip

His plan didnt happen

[peak sentinel]

Thats what im thinking. More than likely. I think house had a hand in making that communication center that hank was in empty for a reason. It was untouched and everything. Vault tec was useful until the great war started

[solid moss]

Because it is insane if house actually did that

I know its not what happened

[worthy warren]

It was a PLAN

[solid moss]

I KNOW
That why i stated i know it not what happened
But the plan is insane IF IT DID HAPPENED

[untold socket]

But there's zero indication of that, lol -
I could understand if HE HIMSELF discussed specifically sending nukes, or wanting to set back humanity, but every literal keypoint dialogue counters such a mindset.

[worthy warren]

How? If he knows the nukes will happen it no matter what, it would be an advantage to pick the exact time it happens to best serve his goal

[vivid sedge]

Yeah let's launch nukes knowing I can't defend what I built for 200 years

[worthy warren]

Holy shit you guys do not listen. He didn’t do it because he wasn’t ready yet

His plan failed and didn’t happen

[solid moss]

No
What double is saying is this

If house got the platnium chip and the nukes havent send off
He would personally launch the nukes so that he has an advantage over vault tec

[worthy warren]

Thank you

[lament lichen]

To be fair, it's not as if he could say to the Courier 'Lol, I wanted to fire the nukes first but got sucker-punched by the Platinum Chip not arriving in time and Vault-Tec/China pushing the button first'. That'd be an easy way to get himself a cranial date with a 9 Iron.

[solid moss]

Its still insane what you just said
But i do understand it

[untold socket]

Yeah, and i think House was ahead of the game - hence his intricate preparation in it, him being tied to every big corporation in pre-war America.
Not to mention, House is known to play long, long games. Especially economic ones if it gives him the advantage to his agenda.

[worthy warren]

Like I said earlier we don’t know for sure it was his plan but it’s fully reasonable for moldaver to think it

[solid moss]

...
Okay i didnt read that part
That actulaly makes sense from moldaver perspective

[worthy warren]

But if he knows vault tec is going to launch the nukes on let’s say October 25th, he could launch the nukes on the 24th and catch them off guard. But the Chinese launch on the 23rd and both plans fail

[lament lichen]

And considering how crappy pre-War corporations were, it's understandable that most folks wouldn't give House the benefit of the doubt.

[untold socket]

No, but im quite literally saying throughout all of his dialogue - or any bits of persona, in his character there's no indication that MASS DESTRUCTION ON NUCLEAR SCALE is even hinted at being in his goals in terms of it being advantageous. House doesn't operate on a grandiose scale in that regard, he's smart to weave his way in and out of things to work in his favor.
He's about progression, and even any MINOR SETBACKS piss him the fuck off.

Sending the bombs himself, even if he had the platinum chip, would be such a huge setback he wouldn't do it.

[worthy warren]

Making the world and one day early means nothing to house if he gets an advantage

[worthy warren]

Fam, house knew for a fact that the nukes were going to happen no matter what

[untold socket]

I never said he didn't, I just disagree with the idea that he'd view it as an advantage if he did it himself.

[worthy warren]

It like if you are going down a mountain in a car with no brakes. You are going to crash, but you can chose to crash into the bushes vs the rocks

[karmic stump]

Where were the NCR, I hope they show at least an element, cant show Lanius without showing a Ranger

[untold socket]

Yes, I understand what you're saying - I quite literally disagree with it based on how he's been established as a character, and everything he's built. That's mostly it.

[solid moss]

Hmm
Ill take the rocks

[worthy warren]

He may have tried to launch the nukes early so that vault tec wasn’t in total control. The world is ending no matter what

[untold socket]

Idk if Ranger in Power armor counts? 🤔

[karmic stump]

No, need them in Riot gear

[untold socket]

Right, I get that.

[solid moss]

It may make sense from moldaver eyes
But with 3rd party sources
It literally sounds insane

[worthy warren]

House knew the world was gonna end no matter what right?

[lament lichen]

And honestly, I'd at least like to think House's plan would've been better than Vault-Tec's insanity.

[solid moss]

That a very low bar to even pass

Anything is better than the Vault-tec insanity

Even the enclave ideas of genocide is better than whatever vault tec is doing

The enclave genocide benefits them and techinally has some postive beside the everyone is gonna die
Vault tec experiment just make no sense

[worthy warren]

Except we know the enclave was in control of vault tec at some level

[tight kayak]

pretty good start to season 2, nothing too action packed or overwhelming yet

[ebon moss]

I wish they didn’t play Big Iron so early but it was still sick

[solid moss]

Nah they better playing it every second is what i am saying

[ebon moss]

That’s reserved for Johnny Guitar sorry

[worthy warren]

Reverse pickpocket grenade was great

[solid moss]

Still make sense than if vault tec did it themselves

What i dont get is what the hell is house doing with brain chips?

[ebon moss]

Very unlike House to do that back alley shit tbh

[worthy warren]

Efficiency, house believes that people are their own worst enemy

He’s always been a total control freak

[lament lichen]

Wonder if House would've stuck a brain chip on the Courier down the line if he won at Hoover Dam and Hank didn't nuke Shady Sands.

[solid moss]

Probably not

Courier is a powerful asset to house
He not someone he wants to be mind control

Courier works best if house instructs him instead of trying to control him

[worthy warren]

The courier was smart enough while also being easy to manipulate.

Mind control would make them less efficient

[peak sentinel]

Bro lanuis is SHORT LMAO

[ebon moss]

Hank really waiting 200 years for a promotion like bro

[worthy warren]

The mind control is for the poors

And dissidents

[solid moss]

Caps and a seat of power is something that if courier goes with house is what he gets
And lets be honest
That probably the driving force behind it
Why bother control him when that also works

[worthy warren]

House sees the importance of independent thinkers

As long as he can control them. The stupid people are more useful under the mind control

[ebon moss]

House is about a meritocracy he doesn’t wanna rule with an iron fist. He just wants independent Vegas

[lament lichen]

Wouldn't the stupid people be better controlled via bread and circuses?

[vivid sedge]

Courier has big MT

[worthy warren]

House is also a liar and manipulator

[solid moss]

He means that they can do some works without accidentaly doing it wrong

[peak sentinel]

Courier 6 is probably chilling in Big MT rn in the sink as s2 is going down

[ebon moss]

That’s why he’s the goat

[worthy warren]

House is a girl boss

[ebon moss]

Barb really girl bosses her way into the apocalypse

[lament lichen]

I gotta feel bad for Janey considering her mom's a psychopath.

[ebon moss]

She just wants to play whack-a-commie

[worthy warren]

She’s jus opportunist

[solid moss]

But even then
It very clear that house at some point avoided the project so he probably doesnt think he need the mind control devices
Or that i am assuming is avoided

[worthy warren]

The apocalypse is basically set in stone at this point she is just trying to be on top

[solid moss]

Its unclear if hank is actually working for house or someone else because he never fully made it clear

[worthy warren]

The device never worked properly

[ebon moss]

They could’ve stopped the apocalypse by giving everyone cold fusion but there’s no money in that

[worthy warren]

He probably gave up on it

[solid moss]

Yes
It had very explosive tendancy

[worthy warren]

Maybe house intends to trade the mind control for cold fusion

He is using it as a bartering chip since that’s what vault tec wants

[lament lichen]

Would be very bad PR to have fellas' heads explode at random because the mind control chip malfunctioned.

[ebon moss]

They fucking cooked I can’t wait till next week

[untold socket]

It operated similar to the mesmetron if you noticed

[solid moss]

Yes but that one, you need a collor for and it also doesnt explosde people head immeditely

That thing however, it has a very strong obsession with exploding people heads

[lament lichen]

To be fair, the chip only did that when House overclocked the control dial.

[untold socket]

I wonder if House used the same pre-war company to design the chip tbh.

[untold socket]

The mesmetron does that if you use it too much, too I believe

[strong wolf]

The mesmetron doesnt need a collar, the collar is used by slavers to capture their slaves, they have to use the mesmetron to put the collar on them without resistance

[solid moss]

and to be extra fair
It probably didnt work since he was experimenting it

which btw
extra credit because he just casually doing field work in a city

[lament lichen]

Good to see House getting his hands dirty just a bit.

[worthy warren]

House knew the unionist were bad for his business the brain chip was just extra benefit to test on them

[lament lichen]

Does a man good to get out of the house and not brain-scan your flings all the time.

[solid moss]

What can we say
It's just good business

[strong wolf]

I really want to see the role that brainchip plays in the future

[lament lichen]

Wonder if Hank ends up using one of those chips on Lucy.

[solid moss]

It is to control people

[untold socket]

It wouldn't surprise me if he uses it on the Bud's buds when they head to the HQ.

[strong wolf]

Imagine the fear of the main character's head exploding at any second

[steady iris]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but I loved the ghoul's reference to "Darla" Boone from 25 years earlier. A nice little touch 🥰

[worthy warren]

Also the money in houses car was only like a couple million in today’s money

[solid moss]

Her name is carla...

[ebon moss]

Rip Carla 😭

[worthy warren]

His wife was Carla

[lament lichen]

Thought her name was Carla.

[untold socket]

It was Carla not Darla lol

[steady iris]

Hence the quotes around Darla lol

[worthy warren]

Darla is a new character we don’t see in the game

[solid moss]

But can we just agree its carla and not darla?

[steady iris]

He remembered wrong

[ebon moss]

Bro prob just forgor her name

I still prefer Goosey

[willow beacon]

I'm glad to see Mojave on TV, but I feel like the writers decided to completely dumb everything down.

[solid moss]

Yeah
And also
Its super close to the name carla

Darla is very close to carla
He could say it wrong

[untold socket]

I don't even remember if Carla did anything in Novac other than chill at home. Did she?

I'm p sure she didn't work the front desk or anything

[solid moss]

She was a wife to boone so...

Still
From the way coop saying it
Carla is suprisely a nice person that he said

[untold socket]

I mean yeah but Coop says he bought stuff from her at the front, which idk if she was even working in Novac lol

I think Carla was just there

[solid moss]

I like we just agreed that its actually carla and not someone named darla who just coincidetanly had almost the same name as carla

And to be fair
It was 25 years ago when he said that so, he could get the name but still almost got it right

[steady iris]

I think he said he bought food from her or something. It's feasible she worked at a store

[worthy warren]

Carla wouldn’t have been in novac at the time the ghoul was there

[untold socket]

This, I was googling the timeline

[solid moss]

He said he bought a soda from her

[worthy warren]

She met Boone in Vegas after 2277 and moved back to novac with him

[untold socket]

Cause I'm pretty sure she wasn't even there and Double is right, it's a whole new character. Not a reference to anything.

[solid moss]

and when did the show came out timeline wise

[worthy warren]

2297?

[untold socket]

The show is the most recent it's like 2290 or 2295

[solid moss]

that is 20 years ago difference
And cooper said he met her 25 years ago
Are we sure she used to live in novac?

[worthy warren]

She didn’t

[steady iris]

Of course she did!

[lament lichen]

25 years ago would be roughly 2271.

[untold socket]

She did not. And even if she did, from what I'm reading she was not working lol

[solid moss]

Now there two people saying she did and didnt
Lets see who wins the arguemnt

[worthy warren]

She met Boone in Vegas and moved to novac with him. She didn’t really like the town and wasn’t a native

[strong wolf]

Boone and her moved to novac after they met i think

[steady iris]

But she was living there with him

[worthy warren]

Not at that time no

[steady iris]

And was kidnapped from there

[untold socket]

She wasn't there when Cooper visited is what we're saying.

[solid moss]

So if cooper met darla before carla existed
Then who the heck is darla fella and why she has almost the same name as carla

[worthy warren]

Carla was kidnapped not long before the game after 2277

[distant glacier]

Novac was a shithole but im sad to see it get merked by the great chuds

[worthy warren]

Boone hadn’t even met her in Vegas by the time the ghoul was in novac

[untold socket]

It's probably just a random character, she's dead anyway, the Khan's killed her or something

[faint sail]

I read that comic about boone and his wife, I Forgot To Remember to Forget. Shit was sad 😔

[strong wolf]

Also the proportions in the whole novac area are so weird, like Helios one is really close, the dinosaur is looking into the motel instead of out, theres a POOL in the middle of it...

[worthy warren]

Or she wasn’t even there by the time of the game

[untold socket]

That too

[lament lichen]

More like the Great Cockroaches considering how these fellas keep popping up after getting purged time and time again.

[solid moss]

Glad they are dead

Next season they are somehow alive

[void sigil]

chat i'm worried that i ate the wrong guy in the lucky 38

[worthy warren]

I think that might just be be an oddly simular looking water tower. It didn’t seem to have the solar panels

[faint sail]

i mentioned this before, the show seems to be trying to pull further away from game scale and trying to proportion RL scaling instead, but it was probably just pulled so close for a "look guys it's the thing"

[solid moss]

How many times is the khans are just gonna come back?
The amount of times they have died and almost wiped out is nuts

[untold socket]

A lot, the Khan's are stubborn.

[worthy warren]

We don’t know they died in new Vegas

[void sigil]

the khans always seem to come back

[solid moss]

True but still

[lament lichen]

Fellas survived at least two purgings by Fallout protagonists, I'm not sure even saturated nuclear bombardment would definitively wipe them out at this point.

[faint sail]

great khans are cockroaches

[steady iris]

I feel like 25 years instead of 20, and Darla instead of Carla, are way too close to not be a deliberate choice by the writers. Both errors can be chalked up to the ghoul's memory

[strong wolf]

Id need to double check but im pretty sure it looked exactly like the "antenna" in Helios one and even had the building

[worthy warren]

It did look a lot like it but didn’t have the solar panels

[solid moss]

And if new vegas just says that the courier also purged them
At that point, they are the luckiest faction in the series

[strong wolf]

You know how the show works, does its own thing

[lament lichen]

Fellas are almost neck and neck with the Enclave in that sense.

[solid moss]

Yep

Also i am rewatching again
I forgot how bad lucy speech skill points are

And how fucking comedic the beginning at novac was XD

[worthy warren]

The bastards make camp directly above a deathclaw nest

[strong wolf]

Lucy sometimes makes me mad bro

[solid moss]

Ghoul fucking dying while lucy and khan are just having a conversation XD

[solid moss]

Well she represents every new fallout players

[untold socket]

Surprisingly their biggest enemy was the Cazadors, too.

Those fuckers were always on them.

[worthy warren]

The ghoul healing himself with a fusion core was cool

[lament lichen]

Whoever made Lucy's character build used Charisma as a dumpstat, because her Speech skill is scuffed.

[solid moss]

And let be honest
First playthrough
WE do tend to take a more peaceful route than the usual ones

[worthy warren]

High charisma low speach

[solid moss]

Exactly
She is need to some side quests my guy

[untold socket]

Her unarmed is high af tho, not to mention she has to have high luck, there's no way

[solid moss]

That is why she always doing awful
The ghoul know the rules of the wasteland

[worthy warren]

She has 100 guns

[solid moss]

and lucy is too busy on the main quest
never on the side shit

smh

[lament lichen]

Any of us gonna run a Lucy build in NV and see how far we get?

[solid moss]

well lets see
dies in the grave

okay that was a joke

Okay lets see
Dies before the game starts cause her dumbass doesnt know the wasteland

[lament lichen]

Maybe she shapes up by the end of S2?

[frosty viper]

I thought I saw a Todd cameo at around 31:00 or so. But side profile doesn't match his face

[vivid sedge]

She definitely learns how to kill

[solid moss]

She still doesnt do it

As the ghoul says
Sure youre hitting ass and legs but youre not killing them

[lament lichen]

Considering she's going to be amongst the Legion at some point going by the trailers, I'm sure that tendency of hers will go out the window real fast.

[solid moss]

OH
She gonna learn how to handle THAT

Anyways agreement that norm is awesome

[lament lichen]

Norm's the only one in that Vault with half a brain and not drinking the Vault-Tec kool-aid.

[vivid sedge]

I'm talking more from later episode teasers

[solid moss]

I know

[solid moss]

Nah
The best scene of him was when he said
He got two rational decision and a whole lot of irrational ones

Then choice probably the most chaotic appraoch ever
And the way he said it is fucking chef kiss

Plans are hard. But Chaos. Chaos is easy

[tiny summit]

So, Prydwen in pre-war

Does this mean the Brotherhood in the East Coast may have copied the design or something at AAFB?

[south pumice]

I was hoping he'd kill the robobrain guy

[vivid sedge]

Probably had a half destroyed airship in one of the hangars there

[lament lichen]

Few quick stomps would've solved that particular problem real fast.

[tiny summit]

And the trailer showed like 4 of the airship, correct?

[solid moss]

Honestly
Call me insane but i thought he was gonna open one of the pods and eat the person

Or eat the brains

Honestly idk which is worse
The person or the brains

[tight kayak]

nah i totally thouhgt he was gonna eat the brain and drink the tank jucies

[tiny summit]

at least he used his skill check to escape

also i think its funny Lucy instant crippled the Khans, but refused to kill 💀

[untold socket]

The Zeppelin design was always pre-war. The design was not created POST-war. The brotherhood retrofitted the Prydwen itself. It's much larger in scale, and is almost self sustaining compared to previous models. What likely happened is the Brotherhood found Zeppelin schematics and designed the current Prydwen after it. If you notice as well, the Airship for the Chapter we see is called the Caswennan - With a Prydwen Model.

[tiny summit]

i think the one in Season 1 was the Prydwen

[untold socket]

To my knowledge, no it was corrected to be Prydwen - Caswennan.

[woven zephyr]

So is alt House Anthony? Robert House's brother?

[untold socket]

No, probably a body double.

[tiny summit]

its the same one from FO4? Just named "Prydwen"

[untold socket]

Anthony is too mentally unstable and hates House too much to want to work with him.

[tiny summit]

the render for the show

[solid moss]

No
We assume body double

[woven zephyr]

Okay but in the alley scene he mentions H&H nail gun... H&H was inherited by Anthony.

very small detail

[solid moss]

Its his way os saying
Even if he hates house, they still need him

Afterall, hes the one who techinally owns the nail gun
So they are using his stuff for their work

[woven zephyr]

I still think it's his brother not a body double. it doesnt even look like him to be a body double 😭

[untold socket]

It has both Caswennan and Prydwen rendered on its sides.

[hallow flint]

Yeah they 100% made a mistake and didn’t change the name

Like the first time they showed off that airship they called it the Caswennan and now we’re seeing the Caswennan in season 2

[untold socket]

It can't be, Anthony hates Robert. He would never work for him or with him. Their relationship is not one of love or care.

[solid moss]

Disagree
The fact that the people in the bar didnt notice it was house showcase that people dont know what he actually looks like
Also, as ajax said, there aint no way anthony would work for robert
It is a body double

[untold socket]

Anthony quite literally is schizophrenic and has the worst case of paranoia and killed himself because he thought Robert had controlled all of his employees.

[solid moss]

With the brain chip being made by robert...
He is techinally not wrong that robert could control them

[untold socket]

If their relationship was anything else, I would agree it could be Anthony but there's just no way.

[untold socket]

Yeah they would have to explain a lot cause at that current point I'm pretty sure Anthony is going unhinged in H&H and losing his mind. But I could be wrong.

[worthy warren]

Also the picture of house inside the lucky 38 is the one we see in the bar

[tight kayak]

boy am i glad i didn't decide to watch this ep while eating dinner

shit makes radroach look delectable

[tiny summit]

yeah that's worse than grilled radroach

[solid moss]

Ill take starvation please

[serene tiger]

daadass

bruh

[solid moss]

Btw
Hank wearing the suit makes it very clear the man wants his damn suit for so long after wearing shitty vault suit XD

also the song used while wearing the suit is awesome XD

[dusk charm]

is this real?

[solid moss]

also the brain chip is called the brain-computer interface

[tight kayak]

thats the ai recap or wahtever

[solid moss]

Absouletly not

[tight kayak]

we alraedy know what the ranger power armor looks like anyway, that shits just ai slop

[tiny summit]

if they were giant, it would've been funnier

[untold socket]

Bug bathwater soup.

[tiny summit]

😭

[faint sail]

You're not hungry? It's fresh from the source, too. Quality wasteland dining.

[tiny summit]

no thanks

[faint sail]

gagged typing that

[tight kayak]

worst part is it can be recreated irl

[untold socket]

I wonder if we'll see the Boomers, too. 🤔

[untold socket]

I hate that you said that so much

[ebon moss]

This is not a show that’s safe to eat while watching

[sonic kettle]

Do you think Coop is playing a character

As The Ghoul

[faint sail]

This is a good question, I think he very well could be. Living 200 years in a nuclear wasteland and knowing everyone you care about is long dead has to have some serious effects on the psyche.

play badass guy, avoid feelings, easy

[sonic kettle]

He doesn't just seem jaded, it seems like he's playing one of his Villains

He reminds me of Angel Eyes in TGTBaTU

[untold socket]

When Lucy brings up his family not liking who he became, you can tell he very much did not like what she said. Lol

[high dagger]

I don't like how different Novac is in the show

[lament lichen]

The swimming pool did feel a bit jarring.

[distant glacier]

Makes sense for a motel to have a swimming pool tho

Im all for some added detail since new vegas absolutely sucked at it with the ingame map

[lofty idol]

What is the group that is in the beginning of the ep

The raiders that capture the ghoul

[distant glacier]

The great khans

[upbeat pumice]

I noticed something
Post-War food like that has never been any good
Maybe steak from a brahmin and bread and corn yeah but like
Cuisine is really sad

[distant glacier]

Yeah unfortunately fallout cuisine doesnt seem to be as expanded on such as elder scrolls

I think its in part because of the obsession of “muh pre war food muh sugar bombs” in fallout games

[upbeat pumice]

And you can't really even chalk it up to it being a Bethesda thing
No that has been always the case

Iguana on a Stick has always existed

[upbeat pumice]

Just goes to show how preservated and chemical those foods are ig

[distant glacier]

Post war culture is perhaps one of the most interesting things about fallout, and I’d like to see that culture be represented food wise

Other than flea soup ofc lol

[west siren]

so which mr house was it? the credits showed it to be someone else

[distant glacier]

We dont know

Some people are saying that it could be houses brother due to his mention of h&h tools

And also the fact that this house seems to have some screws loose (mr houses bro is kinda crazy in lore)

[west siren]

I like how they leave us guessing

[distant glacier]

True, we’re only one episode in so who knows what’ll happen

[west siren]

I wish there were like 10 episodes for the season. don't know how they will squeeze in 7 more episodes

[short merlin]

stop fatshaming me

i am not some people

i am a people

[upbeat pumice]

HOPIUM ADMINISTERED

||https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1pos75j/amazon_dropped_more_info_on_the_state_of_the_ncr/||

[rose warren]

oh my god the extras videos

[upbeat pumice]

||"The NCR IS a Post-War federal republic-esque faction"

PRESENT TENSE||

[tacit fractal]

#1447298641243930836 message

[upbeat pumice]

We are in that channel brother

[tacit fractal]

Look at my message, brother

[upbeat pumice]

Ohhhhh

[tacit fractal]

It talks about them like the NCR was some city-state and nothing existed outside of it. I think it was written by someone with no knowledge of lore outside of the show.

[upbeat pumice]

Honestly it talks to me as if by the time Shady fell the states just became a more federalized affair
Even more than before if I am even being clear with that

But yeah people do suspect yucky AI usage there

[tacit fractal]

It's gotta be AI

[dark swift]

Could Hank be working for Big Mt/Think Tank? The mind control stuff kind of mimics lobotomites

[upbeat pumice]

Still
California lives

[tacit fractal]

No, because I don't think in any case the Think Tank will be featured. They're outside of the things that could be in the show.

Alongside talking deathclaws and the Zetans.

[short merlin]

he is working for the ghouls wife.

[dark swift]

oh huh that could make sense actually

[short merlin]

house is 100% going to be a sideline or easter egg (although it would be awesome if its house)

[dark swift]

but isnt she just VT

[short merlin]

she is, but since when was VT actually all in alignment with eachother?

[dark swift]

I think its interesting how technical Hank is shown in complete contrast to the other VT members tho

[short merlin]

barb was high ranking, Hank was a kid right before the great war.

[dark swift]

Steph can't work a computer and Betty can't figure out the water chip stuff, Hank is shown to roll his sleeves up n such

[rose warren]

I want more of this

[short merlin]

hank adored cooper - he most likely adored his wife aswell.

We know she is some high ranking VT worker, we know that cooper is looking for her, them faking it out that he is working for house to reveal that it was coopers wife all along would be devastating to both cooper and lucy

[tacit fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-floating-high-ascend-flying-gif-6255124189148414041

[rose warren]

My friend is convinced moldaver is being mind controlled by one of houses chips

(heh chip)

[tacit fractal]

FISTO NO WAYYYQWEQENNEQNNEQWN

[short merlin]

like some .. sort of platinum chip, dolce?

[rose warren]

Maybe!

[dusk charm]

😂

[rose warren]

Ok but bringing in fisto is crazy work. I need more

[pale merlin]

Ofc we don’t get to see the NCR fall

I’d like to see the NCr fall instead of just hearing abt it like there a major faction wtf

[upbeat pumice]

Creetosis is going to eat this up like craaaaaazy

[tacit fractal]

???

[dusk charm]

indeeed i wanna see the empires fall empire rise situation

[south pumice]

iirc anthony hated his brother but I would still prefer this over robert house testing his inventions on random people in a bar

[south pumice]

elite ranger gear wow

[rose warren]

That moment where we actually pan into houses stuff is gonna be so satisfying

[pale merlin]

Wow how detailed and thought out

[shy viper]

My god one week for next episode

[pale merlin]

I hope we get to see some characters from the games was kinda let down there were no cameos but I have faith

[south pumice]

it would be so lame if house gets turned into generic evil billionaire

[pale merlin]

I just wanna see one character from NV that’s like a fan favorite whether it’s Boone. Veronica fisto or someone else

[rose warren]

I mean we already know there are some things (victor) but they can't necessarily show a ton of characters they might be dead

[upbeat pumice]

I mean tbh
He just needed to show you that image to make that point

[shy viper]

For me it’s better if they don’t. I like about that series that they took the world without copying a game

[rose warren]

Felicia Day said in a youtube video that she is not in the season (she was the voice of Veronica)

[pale merlin]

I don’t wanna see all of them just one

[tacit fractal]

But wait, there's more!

[pale merlin]

Is that actually shady sands?

If they show it in s2 I’d be happy if like to see the empire fall

I really hope we see atleast one companion

[short merlin]

that is honestly a huge bummer

[rose warren]

I know right 🙁

She was like oh I'm the age NOW that she would be in the time of the show

[south pumice]

raul would be cool

[short merlin]

having companions show up as cameos seems like somewhat of a given

[south pumice]

the dynamic between cooper and raul could be pretty funny

[short merlin]

at the same time its understandable that they wouldnt, because of all the complaints it would cause lmao

[pale merlin]

Yea I seen theories abt this specific actor apparently is going to play Raul

[pale merlin]

People complain abt anything now bro

Like how could you not want to see your companion

[dark swift]

pre-war prydwen on the west coast?

[rose warren]

We already got victor, fisto, house

[pale merlin]

I don’t really give a shit who it is maybe lily would be a lil annoying or Rex cause we don’t have much quests with them and much lore w them

[proper ledge]

If they do, I hope every companion is race and gender swapped to piss off the type of person who gets pissed off about those things.

[pale merlin]

Wdym fisto he ain’t in it

[rose warren]

uwu lily

[short merlin]

fisto is a temporary companion, not a permanent one

[rose warren]

I'd literally cry if we saw Lily, that's my girl lol

[pale merlin]

Is THIS ONE IF THE CREDIT SCENES?

[rose warren]

this is one of the "extras" on prime - fake interviews with the snake oil salesman

[pale merlin]

Victor and house r pretty much a package deal

I just want to see a companion or like maybe someone from the DLC’s but I think elder maxson is gonna be in the show

[teal cosmos]

did they not watch the episode? 💀 its not even a mystery its obviously Robert House

[pale merlin]

Unnecessary asf to bring this up

[rose warren]

It is technically a mystery but most likely him

[pale merlin]

I thought this was implied lmao

[teal cosmos]

who else would it be?? he basically sprinted all the way to NV

i can't think of one other person

[pale merlin]

I don’t get how people can see that as a mystery lmao

WE all love norm

I have really high expectations for this season I hope the show will meet them

[teal cosmos]

he finally kicked that stupid needle like a year and a half later

he could have at least tried "let me out or i stamp you, brain" or "let me out or i unfreeze them all"

but bro was feeling chaotic

unleashed an evil oligarch apocalypse, and Coop's wife and daughter is defrosted now

[pale merlin]

This is exactly what I was expecting “since I’m going to die in here I’ll kill you with me”

[south pumice]

enclave command

[pale merlin]

We don’t know for sure

[south pumice]

I want maximus back

[pale merlin]

Prolly not cause they are also not in th extras and more spot that explains all the factions on prime

[teal cosmos]

would Enclave recognise the name "Hank Mclain i'm still alive" etc? but thats a good 2nd possibility tbf

[teal cosmos]

i reckon he's gonna get a full episode at some point, i swear if a main skips an episode in tv general, they get a full ep later on

[south pumice]

I hope so, he was the best part of season 1

also they better have t51 in this season

[teal cosmos]

yeah i love Maximus and his 2 intelligence stat (not sarcasm, i actually do)

[pale merlin]

I think next episode will be a full episode abt him

[teal cosmos]

he's so separate so it would make sense for him to get a full episode rather than splice in scenes

[pale merlin]

Exactly

[south pumice]

INT 4 LUCK 10

[teal cosmos]

literally💀💀

i just realised the recap never mentioned thaddeus

[pale merlin]

He’s seen in the post credit with some kids

[teal cosmos]

....post....credit??

[proper ledge]

There was a post credits scene?

[teal cosmos]

😦

was it like "up next" or post credit? i'm about to load up prime💀

[pale merlin]

It was next up

[teal cosmos]

ahhh glad he was in there, he seemed like he was going to be more involved

[pale merlin]

We see a lot of stuff like the common wealth will be involved. In the BOS civil war so it’s foreshadowing maxson is going to be in it

[hallow flint]

No it has no vertibirds docks nor any decks

[rose warren]

Kids running a back alley sarsaparilla ring

[dark swift]

well I mean its not literally the pydwen, but it basically looks the same

[hallow flint]

The one in Anchorage could be the same model as the Prydwen

[teal cosmos]

factories in 1880 be like

[steep pilot]

The lack of any filler for this show is kinda sad. I miss the days of LOST and X-Files where a season was over 20 episodes and had content,

[teal cosmos]

the ghoul is the only character that truly enjoys sidequesting❤️

[rose warren]

ok time to rewatch and overanalyze dumb stuff

[teal cosmos]

probs why he's like level 350 in terms of power

[rose warren]

This scene had me hooting and hollering

[short merlin]

i cracked up at the "its allll oveeeeeeeer" when the old lady started talking

and him just staring

[floral siren]

lmao same

[rose warren]

I'm enjoying a rewatch where I'm not screaming the entire time

also robert house is a lil freak boi I didn't think he had it in him

[willow beacon]

The start of the season feels worse than it did first season

[floral siren]

I loved his whole bit at the bar tbh

also im glad yall said there was a post credits i had no idea and had closed it to come in here lol

[rose warren]

[floral siren]

also i would love it if they would update 76 with like a fallout show radio and give us like, new music

[willow beacon]

It's very strange that House is personally involved in testing the chip

[rose warren]

It's his special interest

[willow beacon]

I hope they don't make him the main antagonist of the series

[floral siren]

god the internet has ruined me, i see the caesar's legion and all i can think of is the femboy vulpes memes

[subtle plover]

Just going to say I’d like how the great cons were still being portrayed as moron drug dealers. Kind of the Yes Man take on them lol

[willow beacon]

And Novac was turned into a dump

[subtle plover]

I can confirm that the only person being credited was Rafi by Amazon x-ray system, and it was really confusing me at points because of that

[subtle plover]

Well that’s the Khans for you

[rose warren]

I'm friends with a lot of Khans and they're just happy to be represented

[west siren]

That's why got confused.

[willow beacon]

"🤨 "

[steep pilot]

I don’t need it. I don’t need it

[subtle plover]

Also Rafi on the screen looks more House like then last time fwiw

[subtle plover]

For that price you do that thing is normally 30 and above on Amazon oh, and I found out using Instacart. You can get the vault tech soda supply package and you don’t have to be a cosco member

[jolly dust]

I’m a little surprised they’re crediting both like that tbh but yes, Rafi is credited in the X Ray and in the proper show credits as Robert House, and then Justin Theroux has the “And Justin Thereoux” billing in the end credits

[west siren]

to be fair, we only saw the surname didn't we?

[jolly dust]

If I….didnt already have it I’d get it lol

[west siren]

and as far as we remember Anthony House had mental health issues

could it be that they changed the story and Robert House in the show is actually the crazier brother?

[jolly dust]

Personally, I think it’s less likely they do anything with Anthony (including making Robert crazier) than that House just has used a body double to a very high-level. But I’m happy to be proved wrong

[steep pilot]

Gonna do something stupid like saying House encouraged Vault Tech to drop the bombs to further his research on the chip, and his goals for rebuilding civilization in Vegas.

[halcyon nimbus]

It's so cool they used vault 24, what used be a cut vault in new vegas became official material, I hope they do more like that

[worn ruin]

Freaky ahh Mr. House

Raul does imply he was a bit of a freak before the war

[worn ruin]

The body double thing is a Howard Hughes reference to

[jolly dust]

Yes, definitely

[teal cosmos]

i think the neck chip guy from the flashback is going to be the main antagonist because the show can do whatever they want with him, House is too tied up

and now i think about it, he'll almost certainly die to having his head exploded 🍈💥

[simple willow]

i really hope its not a brother of mr house

i wanted mr house, not two brothers

[teal cosmos]

who might be the brother

[simple willow]

reddit is saying its his brother, i think its a decoy

did house in season 1 even refer to himself as robert house?

[sonic kettle]

I don't think it being Anthony House holds any weight

Robert was denied his inheritance of H&H tools, and went on to build his fortune through other companies

We know he did a hostile takeover of H&H so it is reasonable he would mention it's tools

[shell drift]

hi so is the two houses supposed to be siblings

[sonic kettle]

It was Father/Son

Now he's dead it's the 2

[shell drift]

skinnier guy the father or son?

I assume son

[sonic kettle]

Neither one is a body double

[jolly dust]

The thing is that anyone trying to make it Anthony house is doing that by using many things outside of the show.
The show itself, positions the idea of a fake house and a real house, with Justin Thereoux being the real one with the real power. Could it end up going a different direction? Sure. But the show absolutely doesn’t setup anything to do with them being Anthony house or anybody else

[sonic kettle]

Theres an unnamed Father, Robert House (Justin and Rafi) and his Half Brother Anthony

[gray hinge]

when does the next episode come out

next week?

[sonic kettle]

We never even see a picture of Anthony, so there's nothing to ever suggest they look similar

[jolly dust]

Should be 1 full day later than this episode.
Wednesday night for me, E1 was Tuesday night

Er 1 week + 1 day

The teaser trailer at the end also further shows that. Now yes, deceptive editing is a thing and I think sometimes things are made unclear on purpose.

But E1 establishes that Walton is going to meet House at an expo or whatever, and it’s implied maybe it’s to kill him.

In the trailer we see Walton with the body double, which very much feels like a dramatic elevator being taken to the real house.
Then Justin’s line is directed to Cooper and says “I know you’ve come here to kill me”

[flint adder]

I’m so glad we have weekly releases this time round

Makes discussion and speculation so much more enjoyable

[sonic kettle]

I would bet my life Justin isn't the double

[jolly dust]

Of course, yes, it’s a trailer and those are always tricksy on purpose. But E1 establishes body double house (Rafi) and real house (Justin), and everything we know about later also shows the same.

[sonic kettle]

It makes no sense to hire a big name actor and it would cheapen the whole series if we just see Coop not interacting with the "real" house

[flint adder]

Misread. Agreed

[sonic kettle]

Lol 😄

[jolly dust]

trying to read extra lore into it is less likely than it being what the show is positioning.
And already, the idea of a public facing house being a body double all along and there being a REAL one….is already a big twist and dramatic. It doesn’t need more twists to be interesting

[flint adder]

Enthusiasm for theories is just through the roof ahah

[sonic kettle]

I mean house is just a Howard Hughes insert, but his brother anthony got the mental issues

Howard Hughes used a body double, so does House

[sonic kettle]

The real twist would be revealing that Anthony was right

[flint adder]

😳😳

[flint adder]

It’s so plainly obvious Rafi is the double. I don’t understand the debate around it

[jolly dust]

100%

[subtle plover]

Rafi won the lottery with this role. He’s still going to do it and wasn’t just quickly replaced and for years and decades to come Robert house convention appearances.

[sonic kettle]

Weirdly I also prefer how he looks as House

I also don't mind Frederick Sinclair being a larger man

[flint adder]

House was evidentially paranoid prior to the Great War and, when considering the public animosity towards him displayed in Ep. 1, it would make sense he’d employ a body double

I doubt House would want to risk assassination, now would he?

[sonic kettle]

Also gotta remember prewar inflation

[subtle plover]

OK, this is just a minor kind of complaint, but the two houses look different enough and aren’t there tons of pictures of Robert house in public domain I guess I’m just saying it’s weird how he works as a body double.

[sonic kettle]

31 million was probably more like 4mil in today's money

[flint adder]

Absolutely. That $31 million he offered would only be around $6 million accounting for Fallout inflation

[sonic kettle]

Yeah I'm putting that just down to suspending disbelief

[jolly dust]

Justin has such an interesting and compelling vibe so far, I’m digging that and look forward to see more. I never got any of that from Rafi’s - admittedly very few - lines and presence.

[worn ruin]

We don't know how long House has been a recluse, Rafi could be close enough to how House looked before

[subtle plover]

I think I prefer Justin’s more just because it kind of matches up more with the image from the game, but honestly, the biggest difference for both of them is just their voice is not the same as the late actor who originally did house and that’s to be expected and just something I need to get used to

[flint adder]

I like to imagine House has aged quite drastically since entering seclusion

[jolly dust]

Well that’s part of the whole reveal thing imo…not just that he’s got a double for some appearances. The implication is that Justin has never been known as house, that publicly Rafi is entirely House.

[sonic kettle]

Nothing is close to Rene Auberjonois

[subtle plover]

I guess, but house in the scenes from the trailer seems clean and lucid and very much not like Howard Hughes with piss jars. The other thing is even though he’s using him as a double he still making business decisions unless they knew what that meeting he was basically just a sort of short wave radio to house.

[subtle plover]

That’s very correct and it’s not something I told against either actor it’s just you know one’s own mental expectations

[flint adder]

God, I’m so excited for the rest of the season

[jolly dust]

Like the guys are looking at Rafi on TV and looking at Justin in person and thinking ‘who’s this random guy’, not ‘he sure looks like the House I remember…’

[sonic kettle]

Yeah and I mean just for how old Rene was/would have been anyway it would have been impossible to cast him as House

[flint adder]

I like to imagine that House is completely, 100% isolated from everyone else. The only person he communicates through is Rafi

[jolly dust]

And the fact that a body double would be used for a super high level end of world vault tec meeting that’s very much behind closed doors really shows that the double thing is very intensely used, not just like a guy who pops up from time to time in front of crowds for safety

[subtle plover]

Now that would actually make a lot more sense or at least be easier for me to just work with. Still the idea of the guy using that ability or freedom to just do you know go around and do scanners test on people is still a bit odd but everything in that episode was good for me so I’m gonna let this develop and give it time.

[jolly dust]

Yes, exactly. That’s how I think it’s setup so far, and is a dope idea. Feels very on brand for fallout, and introduces new and interesting lore to him.

[flint adder]

^^

[jolly dust]

There’s always chances they make some more twists to it. But just this singular thing, presented as it is now, is dope as hell and I want to see it explored more

[flint adder]

I estimate House has been in isolation since at least 2066 - start of the Sino-American War

[sonic kettle]

I think it also sets itself up for a nice twist or reveal of House's nature that Rafi House is an employee who's basically given up his life to be house, but then when the war comes he's just discarded as an unneeded assest

[red condor]

they made a thread ?

[sonic kettle]

I think that hits harder than brainwashed or controlled body double

[hallow flint]

^

[red condor]

so uhh turns out House was evil then lol ?

[jolly dust]

What trailer was it that showed Cooper at like a military barracks pre-war? Was that the E2 teaser they seem to have taken down?

[red condor]

atleast pre war

[jolly dust]

I can’t find it now

[sonic kettle]

Man who wants to install autocracy in Vegas isn't nice? What a twist

[worn ruin]

Yeah I was trying to find it but it seems to have been taken down

[red condor]

idk i didnt think hed be Elon Musk pre war

[sonic kettle]

Elon Musk wishes he was as cool as Howard Hughes

[subtle plover]

See, I think house would reward him for that at least looking at how he interacts with the courier, potentially in the house endings if only because the guy clearly has read on such high-level stuff that seemed like a waste of a resource

[sonic kettle]

You have to remember he did that not for fun, but to get a specific reaction

[steep pilot]

I feel this entire plot point about a fake house was hastily made because of the casting issues.

[daring mason]

When You are a dumbass:
HOUSE DOUBLE IS ANTHONY HOUSE???????

[teal cosmos]

Musk is more of a supermutant on chems

[red condor]

i mean , it makes sense that House would have a body double lol

so its not too bad of a change

[subtle plover]

What makes Robert house so interesting going back to the Howard Hughes analysis is that unlike Elon Musk and a lot of these tech idiots house actually makes stuff and done it. He actually had to work his way up because of his scumbag half brother so I kind of think that makes the character even more interesting because of it.

[jolly dust]

I don’t think there were ever casting issues, this was the plan all along imo. Recast was a real world cover

[flint adder]

What if House is an Apartment instead?

[sonic kettle]

Yeah maybe you're right, maybe the double just lives out his old age into Lucky 38

[daring mason]

Anthony house is just schizo elijah with H&H

[teal cosmos]

i'm a bit confused about this brother theory but maybe a robot synth? just thinking about the "you always had plans to survive" thing from Hank

[sonic kettle]

Oh yeah he's 100% more interesting and someone to empathise with, in that his rise to power was actually earned

[teal cosmos]

brain in a synth mayb

[daring mason]

Good lord and we got all the synths theories

[flint adder]

That’s quite dark in a way. He’s allowed to live, but with no human company and will eventually die totally alone years after the bombs drop

It’s almost as bad as the insanity that went on in Vault 77 (which I’m sure the show will canonise at some point)

[daring mason]

Yall really dont leave alone the synths theories?

[red condor]

they look too different lol , if House had a synth made it would look exactly like him. also , synths werent invented pre-war

[jolly dust]

House was just a man who planned and had contingencies for everything…including death, that’s probably all that line meant.

[teal cosmos]

everyone is a synth😎 F4 final theory

[teal cosmos]

actually good point lol💀

a synth would be identical yeah

[jolly dust]

New lore addition…synths that don’t look identical lmao

[daring mason]

"courier is a synth"
"Sarah lyons was a synth"
"Maximus is a synth"

[flint adder]

Also, I’m SO glad Kumail isn’t playing Elder Maxson

That would’ve been an interesting choice…

[daring mason]

I think that was OBVIOUS.

Like literally OBVIOUS.

[teal cosmos]

Maximus is innocent from being a synth coz he's too dumb and thats why we love him❤️

[flint adder]

I know! But some dumbasses on X were speculating rather intensely

[red condor]

Maxson dosent have that chin bro

[daring mason]

No way

[jolly dust]

Then again, Maxson does seem like someone else who would also be juicing lolol

[daring mason]

When i saw him i expected him to be a ambassor of the Maxson BoS
Not maxson itself

[teal cosmos]

do we know if Mcauley is Caesar or just a "face of the legion" character yet

[daring mason]

Or something related to others BoS chapter

[simple willow]

one thing i don't understand, if 1 guy is going to blow up teh world, why of all people is cooper howard going to kill him, like imagine in real life tom cruise was sent to kill george bush

[jolly dust]

People all freaking out about Kumail being Maxson (because MANY people were) just shows how much Fallout people try to read into things too much lmao

[red condor]

Ceaser makes the most sense

[sonic kettle]

Coop was a soldier

[flint adder]

Lanius. Look at the shoulder pads in the trailer

[teal cosmos]

i really really hope he is Caesar

[flint adder]

Culkin is Lanius. I’ll bet my life on it

[daring mason]

I still cannot believe they were people to believe that

[sonic kettle]

Coop is like Jimmy Stuart mixed with Clint Eastwood

[red condor]

from the scenes we got it does seem like hell be an Octavius sorta character that worships Ceaser

[daring mason]

Would be fun if it was arcade gannon just playing as caesar

[flint adder]

I presume you haven’t seen the Lanius bit from the next time trailer? All but confirms it

[jolly dust]

I think the good news is that by next week I think most of the idea of ‘who tf is this house, is it a double’ should be much more clearly stated

[daring mason]

Ironic due he being related to enclave and FoA... And being gay

[teal cosmos]

yeah i didn't watch the up next, someone said Thaddeus is in it as well, was wondering about him

[jolly dust]

Do you have access to that one anymore? Or have you seen any people who saved it?