EPISODE 7

[fallow gorge]

Which means nothing, I really don’t see how that’s as much an argument as the one I gave

[paper cradle]

No one is pure

[wheat briar]

She is

[fallow gorge]

Couldn’t have said it better

[inner pollen]

ty

[paper cradle]

I’m scared of yall

[fallow gorge]

Depends on what aspect you’re talking, some people are completely pure at heart

[inner pollen]

now all of China knows my last name means Nipple in Dutch

[inner pollen]

let us have hope 😔

[paper cradle]

If she’s not bad then she’s ignorant

[inner pollen]

oh she's 100% being used

i mean… we see her being used

[fallow gorge]

Not ignorant, innocent and naive, she was used but she wasn’t dumb… it’s easy to mistake kindness for weakness

[inner pollen]

as a decapitated head

[plush river]

Chet Is the most relatable character in the show

Apart from the cousin stuff

[fallow gorge]

Absolutely, and was chosen exactly because of her purity of character and personality

[inner pollen]

wydm "apart"?
-# im joking i swear

[plush river]

https://tenor.com/view/shrugs-chet-fallout-i-don't-know-idk-gif-13065850673297260961

[paper cradle]

For me, Norman

[fallow gorge]

I don’t think he’s the most relatable, but I get what you mean… although I would have freaked out long before he did

[paper cradle]

And House

[wheat briar]

this is the best part of her character because we get to see her growth as a person in real time

[plush river]

I think most people relate to the vault dwellers

Nobody relates to cooper because he’s beautiful

[wheat briar]

I relate to the ghoul because I'm also looking for a wife

[fallow gorge]

You think? What do you mean?

[paper cradle]

Are you also bi or did the similarities stop there

[paper cradle]

I relate to Norman because

I’m short
Uhh
Nothing else

[fallow gorge]

Wdym coop is bi?

[plush river]

Once you enter the wasteland your bisexual

[inner pollen]

man roams the earth for over two centuries… sometimes man becomes curious

[plush river]

No way to change this

[nimble anvil]

I relate to Maximus because I'm big, dumb and can't fight

[paper cradle]

I relate to House because my irl name is Robert House

[wheat briar]

yknow I was writing something but I lost my train of thought and now I'm sitting in 100% humidity completely stunned

[paper cradle]

TRUST ME

[wheat briar]

happened to me

[plush river]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-2024-season-1-season-one-s01e01-gif-7115293293831512684

[fallow gorge]

Damn 😭🙏

[inner pollen]

i relate to Lucy bc i too have an unhealthy hope that the world will one day fix itself and everyone will hold hands and sing kumbaya.

[plush river]

It will I just need a couple things and a factory

[wheat briar]

me when I get paid

[plush river]

Oh and a church

I have BIG GREEN plans

[paper cradle]

I got that ~~ t boy ~~ House swag

[wheat briar]

tinnitus?

[inner pollen]

LMAO

[paper cradle]

Guys what if gay kissing in season 3

[wheat briar]

sorry pal, it's too late

[inner pollen]

still can't believe this actually happened

[wheat briar]

they're coming

[fallow gorge]

Wdym? That’s cannon

[fallow gorge]

Top 10 things that happened/will happen

[paper cradle]

I did that

[inner pollen]

who? the gay kissers?

[paper cradle]

Finally

[fallow gorge]

Yes, escorted by @paper cradle

[wheat briar]

gulps....... im scareddd

[slender merlin]

@fallow gorge Server doesn't allow memes per rule 2, I'm afraid. Removed the image you posted

[inner pollen]

IT WAS A REAL EVENT THO

THEY ACTUALLY HAD HOUSES FACE ON THAT SPHERE

[wheat briar]

@inner pollen would legit been banned

[fallow gorge]

It got deleted, I didn’t do that! But aight I’ll keep that in mind for the future

[fallow gorge]

@slender merlin

[slender merlin]

🤔

I must do some Googling lol

[paper cradle]

If you see a brown person in 2055 acting like Mr House that’s me

[limber egret]

Then you fell for her act, the point was for her to be pathetic yet sympathetic for Cooper to trust her with the cold fusion diode. Everything that happened was a plan by the Enclav to stop House from getting cold fusion. She was in on it

[wheat briar]

Well houses face could appear on any shpere in vegas since he has central control

[fallow gorge]

And potentially an apology to do 😂 (joking it’s fine)

[fallow gorge]

No

[slender merlin]

I can't tell if these images on Google are edited or not 😵‍💫

[fallow gorge]

Diane Welch is the perfect glorious queen pookie she has always demonstrated to be

[paper cradle]

I implanted them there

[wheat briar]

if there's a twist where Ghoul IS Enclave I'll be stunned, because now I'm thinking it could be possible

[fallow gorge]

They are not 😜 we deserve house ball irl

[maiden sedge]

I’m so hyped for tomorrow

Hopefully courier is referenced

[paper cradle]

House ball tomorrow

[slender merlin]

My apologies if they are not edited, in that case

[wheat briar]

He'll be referenced in the new Fallout New Vegas Remaster shadow dropping tomorrow

[maiden sedge]

Oh I forgot abt that

[fallow gorge]

It’s fine I’m joking, that was a meme, whether the image is edited or not, you did nothing wrong

[inner pollen]

okay turns out the one that was deleted was fake 😔😔 but Amazon did put an ad for the show with him on there https://www.reddit.com/r/Fotv/s/hQoGkmnbpi

[maiden sedge]

It’s just a countdown for the end of the season for fallout shelter 2

[slender merlin]

Yeah, I saw similar results

[wheat briar]

LETS GO FALLOUT SHELTER 2 x Fallout Season 3 crossover finally

[slender merlin]

There is a non-stretched House actually on the ball

[wheat briar]

Wait so ep8 is going to be mostly the fight in freeside right?

[paper cradle]

The guy is on there

[wheat briar]

Amazon should've actually dropped nukes and had sphere houses defend vegas irl

[paper cradle]

House predictions: he’s bi
He’s a fruit
He loves men
He’s zesty

[maiden sedge]

I hate you

[inner pollen]

he's a dried fruit more accurately

[wheat briar]

the fact that twitter would lose their mind if house had a line like "me and my husband"

I DID THIS FOR ME AND MY HUSBAND

[paper cradle]

Insert Cooper Howard (somewhat popular crack ship 🥹)

[wheat briar]

Coop was in the army he's most def tasted the fruits

[paper cradle]

If they don’t do this season 3 will NOT be good

[maiden sedge]

I’d be annoyed if he says me and my anything I like the idea he is too busy and doesn’t care for marriage

[paper cradle]

Aroace😈

[maiden sedge]

Idk what that is

[paper cradle]

QUICK use coded queer language, this guy doesn’t understand!

[wheat briar]

season 3 is just a bi awakening for coop and Lucy finally learning to say no

[maiden sedge]

I’m gonna miss coming over here every Wednesday talking to everyone

[wheat briar]

We'll all be on twitter 🙂

[maiden sedge]

😮

I don’t use that too much bad stuff

[wheat briar]

I only speak in queer code sometimes and I say I'm straight (like coop)

[paper cradle]

“I say” you needed to add that? Suspicious /silly

[limber egret]

I wouldn't call that a crack ship, the two interact for one, two have you SEEN how Walton Goggins and Justin Theroux interact

[paper cradle]

I love these two images

[paper cradle]

“I long for you” ahh stare

[wheat briar]

I'm a man of the hour, but that means I'm always where I need to be

[wheat briar]

this is giving tiktok edit

Looks like there's a fallout between this.. Heated Rivalry

[paper cradle]

14 year old girls are so happy right now

[paper cradle]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🙏🙏🙏🙏

[digital walrus]

But that doesn’t mean vault tec would not experiment on her

[maiden sedge]

I don’t think she’s alive I think like her brain is just used

[digital walrus]

Now the president he looked crabby

[paper cradle]

Mista krabs

Autocorrect is something else

I need to go

Work calls me

[digital walrus]

What do you expect from the enclaves president

[maiden sedge]

He looked greedy and looks like he’d sell a sponge for 62 cents

[digital walrus]

Short of martin sheen couldn’t have seen anyone else in the role

[digital walrus]

The thought that the irs may have survived via the enclave

[maiden sedge]

My body isn’t ready for episode 8

[wheat briar]

wait are they releasing the episode early because of the superbowl?

[inner pollen]

it's supposed to be out on Tuesday

idk about the SuperBowl im not American

[wheat briar]

american? I thought you were lesbian

[storm delta]

@halcyon silo removed your post of a tiktok video for #rules 2

[nimble anvil]

If you watch it as soon as it comes out, you shouldn't miss much of the 1st quarter.

Side note: Go Patriots!

Wait I'm stupid

Super Bowl is on Sunday

[gilded pewter]

Another thing I found hilarious was when Hank said the NCR and the Legion were the same and Lucy just went “yeah one crucifies, enslaves, and murders people, and one is vaguely problematic” and I feel like that line was half directed at the Caesar’s Legion apologists in the fandom which makes it funnier

[sterile coral]

Yeah, Hank was not cooking with that line; dude might as well be yapping like an off-brand Ulysses.

[gilded pewter]

Fuck me it’s been a hot minute since I played new vegas remind me who Ulysses was again

[sterile coral]

Dude's the reason we got saddled with the Chip in the first place, he went to Big MT and conversed with the Think Tank, he helped out the White Legs, and he also got the Divide's remaining nukes warmed up to fire while waiting for the Courier to show up.

[gilded pewter]

Ahh now I recall sorta

[fallow gorge]

I hope she isn’t alive, won’t suffer any more

[fallow gorge]

So now everyone just thinks House is gay and coop is in on it? 😭 wtf what is this theory? What is it based on?

[inner pollen]

i'd lie and say "okay cool!" to people please but i'm tryna end that era of my life, which has been my whole life. so give me a second to craft a polite reply.

i fucking hate sports

-# /lh

-# /j too bro

[inner pollen]

it's just a joke. but House does look suspiciously gay.

he kinda

[last ruin]

There aren't many reasons to hang out around the urinals unless you're trying to check a look

[inner pollen]

the energy in that scene was interesting

charged

👀

[last ruin]

The bull and the bear and the bear and the bull.

He's the actual main character of New Vegas and undermines almost the entire story just out of his petty and poorly written backstory.

[peak apex]

A rundown of Ulysses is that he’d blame this guy for the destruction of shady sands

[digital walrus]

Ulysses blames anyone

[real scroll]

Yeah pretty much

[peak apex]

He has some interesting takes too. Like some bum town in the middle of the divide was gonna surpass the NCR, trust me bro

[real scroll]

"Free will or not you were a courier like the rest. And your delivery marks you"

[urban mantle]

He'd probably blame Maximus' dad for fucking with the bomb

[peak apex]

It was his fault cuz he forgot to invest in explosives

[urban mantle]

It's funny how intertwined he is with things he has no active role in

Christine surviving big mountain, new Canaan being destroyed, the legion even finding the dam at all

And then he just bumbles off to play with nukes

[peak apex]

Him and the Ghoul being tied to various important events is very interesting

[last ruin]

Lonesome Road being the DLC that Avellone personally wrote is very telling

[peak apex]

Tunnelers are gonna fuck everyone up trust me bro

[last ruin]

Ulysses is written like a high school OC donut steel

[sterile coral]

And now we got Hank, who might as well be Ulysses if he got a 9-5 and eventually ascended to middle-management.

And somehow got even more petty.

[last ruin]

Hank is a compelling villain though. He doesn't just mope around whining about how much his life sucks.

[sleek anvil]

LONG LIVE THE NEW CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC

[sterile coral]

Though he does need to work on his debate skills.

[peak apex]

Hank is more of an “enlightened centrist” compared to Ulysses’s hypocritical contradicting views

[heavy gorge]

Yeah Hank's take on both the NCR and Legion is the most centrist thing like, ever
Lucy said it best

[digital walrus]

My issue with the divide is what was likely just going to become ncr territory

[sterile coral]

Trying to both sides the NCR and Legion is a dicey proposition at best.

[digital walrus]

Ncr had real issues but hank does not mention those

[real scroll]

Who knows maybe they're responsible for the Mojave turning into fallout dust

[heavy gorge]

The NCR has done Bitter Springs for all we have know
And all we know about the Legion is that they have based a good part on their expansion mostly on Bitter Springs equivalents

Bitter Springs was awful btw, the NCR high command was awful for that
But the Legion does it on a regular basis so that makes them even worse

[sterile coral]

Like, there's more of an interesting discussion if we're talking NCR vs. House.

[digital walrus]

I don’t even think given what the khans were that bittersprings was unwarranted just went to far, the khans are unrepentant raiders

Like the khans were not innocent victims

[digital walrus]

That would be interesting

[digital walrus]

Ncr would be a lot more knit picky in personal matters than house

[halcyon silo]

I think Thaddeus is gonna be master bro

[real scroll]

Holy shit the real Cooper Howard

[velvet cobalt]

Hm?

You gotta be kidding me

[icy turtle]

Probably bi or pan? Can't forget the cut romance with a female Courier, and his robot sex slaves. I do think it's interesting that the devs went as far as to basically 1 to 1 House's relationship with starlets. Cause Howard Hughes was the exact same with them. Lmfao

[icy turtle]

Yeah, I mean genuinely the only thing that I think the NCR took too far wete the kids obviously. Plus it's evident by Bitterroot that not all those kids would've turned out to be raiders.

[digital walrus]

My point more stands that the khans had been pushing there luck and also in the show they are still raiders

[urban mantle]

The only particular issue they have with bitter springs happening was the whole 'killing noncombatants' thing

[icy turtle]

Yeah. I get that. They definitely were. BUT the death of innocents, elderly and children could've somewhat been prevented I feel. But it can be argued either way, genuinely

[digital walrus]

I mean would we look on it the same if the fiends eventually got taken out

[urban mantle]

They seem to be okay with being attacked by groups they raid as long as it isn't like, exactly what the NCR ended up doing

[icy turtle]

If it was children, or innocents? Yes of course. Lol Mind you NCR has an issue with tribals in general, friendly or not.

[digital walrus]

I wonder if arroyo still exists

[icy turtle]

But it doesn't excuse killing children, or non-combatants. You can argue the Khan's had it coming. But there are a lot of instances where other tribals are peaceful and the NCR still treating them like shit, according to Daniel.

[urban mantle]

It should unless the chosen one fucked up big time

[icy turtle]

I assume Daniel is referencing the tribes he's met as a Missionary.

And the Sorrows, but yeah.

[digital walrus]

Maybe the ncr took some cues from vault city

[urban mantle]

Is there any indication about the intel command had because I'm still not sure if it was a miscommunication or not

[icy turtle]

Boone and Bitterroot seem steadfast in believing it was a miscommunication.

[digital walrus]

Yeah, I was there. I was Captain Dhatri, then. That whole situation was a mess and could easily have been avoided with good intel. The major in charge at the time made a bad call - he thought Bitter Springs was full of Great Khan raiders, so we surrounded the place. By the time any of us realized there were civilians down there - women and children - the shooting had already started. The major froze up at the news, and we couldn't get another word out of him. I took over and salvaged the situation as best I could. For my effort, I was promoted to major. Not quite the way I'd have wanted it.

[icy turtle]

But I haven't actively seen much outside of their perspectives around it.

[digital walrus]

Captain dharti backs up the bad intel claim

However given the khans were the last threat standing prior to the legion that bad intel may have been intended by a higher up like oliver

However everyone on the ground says bad intel

[icy turtle]

Seems like bad intel then, but idk if they're beating the tribal hating allegations.

[digital walrus]

Not likely especially given olivers is a glory hound who would love to claim he brought peace to the mojave

[fallow gorge]

Is it the mustache? 😭

[digital walrus]

The freddy

[upper shard]

It was most certainly an error. They built a whole refugee camp in Bitter Springs and let the khans be buried in a cemetery in the pass where they died

Plus like if it wasn't an error they wouldn't have much of a reason to really call it as such. They could've simply openly exterminated them under the pretense of it being necessary

The fact that it caused such a big ruckus means it was an extremely unexpected thing

[urban mantle]

Hmm okay, glad we at least have a definite answer on that

[upper shard]

Yeah. Even the guy in charge apparently froze on the field when he realized what was going on

That's how un prepared everyone was

[digital walrus]

See above quote

[real scroll]

Well he does look a fair bit like Freddie Mercury

[atomic cedar]

The real truth is both are bad but people foolishly believe one isn't

[paper cradle]

Hey I’m Mr House and I am gay

[atomic cedar]

House is mega straight

Built a securitron with his girlfriends mind scan

[ashen sapphire]

House invited coop to the lucky 38 to seduce him

[paper cradle]

I’ll show you mega straight that’s nothing

That’s actually very gay and pales in comparison to some of my mega straight shit when I thought I was straight

[atomic cedar]

Which faction enslaves people and forcefully brings them to other lands to make them work on their railroads. Here's a hint, not the Legion

[paper cradle]

🏳️‍🌈

[upper shard]

Hm?

Oh. You posted Dhatri's dialogue earlier.

Yeah. That's the one i was referring to

[urban mantle]

Uhh the brotherhood

[ashen sapphire]

The railroad

[urban mantle]

Oh damn I forgot about the railroad

[atomic cedar]

What's that you can't pay your taxes? Oh well off to the Mojave with you here's some TNT

[paper cradle]

“Coop is in on it” I need to say this; I love how this is said like being gay is like a plan

[upper shard]

enslaves people to work on railroad

And it's literal murderers and criminals lol

[atomic cedar]

A lot of them are definitely not

[urban mantle]

One could argue the NCR providing explosives to dissidents is a profound attempt at establishing an active political ecosystem in the Mojave

[upper shard]

They are. We are never given any indication they're not

[atomic cedar]

With how corrupt California is with the brahmin barons

[upper shard]

Cobb literally pouts about how he killed and robbed people

[atomic cedar]

This resulted in a massive net negative that resulted in more death

[paper cradle]

Fallout general but I mention how gay House is every 5 seconds

[atomic cedar]

Joe Cobb isn't the only powder ganger

[urban mantle]

🤷 such is life

[upper shard]

The only screw up they did was leaving the jail unguarded with less troops.

Which if they win the war fix

[upper shard]

Do you see a single powder ganger that isn't a bad person in the entire game?

[urban mantle]

Yes

[atomic cedar]

Remember when the powder gangers are actively traveling to as many towns as they can to murder everyone in there for no reason you can blame the NCR for that one and also the NCR is doing nothing to stop it

[upper shard]

Who

[urban mantle]

He just refuses to associate with the powder gangers and admits his guilt

[urban mantle]

Mr what's his name

[upper shard]

Who?

[urban mantle]

That sheriff guy for primm

[atomic cedar]

Do you think lottery guy was a murderer

[urban mantle]

Besides him we can't really uh ask the faceless NPCs so it's maybe not fair to assume they're all evil little goblins

[atomic cedar]

I can assure you most powder gangers are people who couldn't pay stupid NCR taxes

[upper shard]

Yes. Everyone at Nipton were murderers. The Powder Gangers there were trying to kill NCR troopers as well

[urban mantle]

There are shades of ambiguity between "everyone was good" and "everyone was bad"

[ashen sapphire]

Everyone was neutral

[upper shard]

Yeah but Nipton definitely isn't a good example of that

[urban mantle]

Everyone was a powder ganger (they rule)

[upper shard]

I'd say a better example of the NCR's goofiness is Vault City

They tried taking it by force

[fallow gorge]

Freddy?

[upper shard]

That was bad

[urban mantle]

Vault city did slavery

Like. Just saying

[fallow gorge]

Yeah you’re right 🤣 it’s not what I meant but you get what I mean brah

[upper shard]

Also.
About him.
He specifically got arrested because he kills whoever he thinks is an outlaw. A vigilante essentially.

Won't exactly say he's innocent either

[digital walrus]

Mercury

[urban mantle]

No but he is overall 'good'

[upper shard]

Tru but like there were better ways than causing raider attacks ya know

[urban mantle]

Weren't the raider attacks sponsored by new Reno

[upper shard]

The NCR were involved in it too

[urban mantle]

Lemme check it's been a while since I played 2

[upper shard]

They didn't directly cause it but they certainly could've stopped it

Anyway back to the show

[fallow gorge]

Roberto Casa = Frederico Mercúrio?

[paper cradle]

It’s a commonly accepted joke, I don’t think they ever gonna confirm Cooper x Mr House like ever

[upper shard]

I like how Freeside cheers for Max in the NCR armor

[paper cradle]

Max being happy warms my heart

[upper shard]

Fr

[fallow gorge]

They’re lowkenuinly (lowkey + genuinely) my fav fictional/nom fictional gay couple rn

[upper shard]

Screw the BoS. This is who he is. A true Nu Cali Public

[paper cradle]

Even then. This scene was definitely 25% fan service like my guy🫩

[upper shard]

I mean. Fair enough

[fallow gorge]

Put your head on my shoulder ahh scene

[urban mantle]

Which fans was that servicing...?

[paper cradle]

House fans

[upper shard]

House x Coop shippers

[fallow gorge]

@paper cradle and two or three others

[urban mantle]

[upper shard]

You'd be surprised how many House fans the show brought back up lol

[fallow gorge]

Me included buddy 😂🙏

[upper shard]

Twitter legit goes crazy sometimes with the amount of House posts

[paper cradle]

Yet I see none on Pinterest

[upper shard]

Can't comment because i don't use pint

[paper cradle]

I posted the ones I found on Pinterest though so I’m my own hero ig

[fallow gorge]

Wait… Twitter… Pinterest… those posts aren’t really about House and lore and sfw stuff are they?

[upper shard]

Nah they're mostly sfw

They're just jokes

[paper cradle]

The only Fallout show House stuff I see on Pinterest is House x Coop idk why

[fallow gorge]

Damnit
Jkjk

[paper cradle]

“COOPER YOU HAVE TO KISS ME OR THE BOMBS WILL RUIN YOUR DAUGHTER’S BIRTHDAY PARTY”

[fallow gorge]

Because coop’s bi propaganda infected the internet and is now infecting me as well
But never as much as Diane Welch, Congresswoman for the region of Glendale, turning down corporate funding because America needs less interference of industry in the management of the nation

I saw that @paper cradle put it back

[urban mantle]

What if the president is brought back as the new leader of the NCR

[fallow gorge]

Or as the founder of Krusty Krab unltd.

[paper cradle]

Guys what if in season 3 Lucy is going to be a badass

[upper shard]

I want to see her using an automatic gun

[paper cradle]

And steal all of Cooper’s drugs

[fallow gorge]

She did some gutsy things already

[upper shard]

Enough of semi auto. Give her a damn smg or machine gun

[digital walrus]

That would be wild

[paper cradle]

I can’t stop thinking about this

I can imagine the clickbait YouTube thumbnail “What are they planning!?!?” And it’s them kissing

Like it’s just plain ass fan art

[real scroll]

i want VATS canonized dammit

[outer leaf]

ngl chet sometimes looks a bit kirkified

[paper cradle]

We have been done for as a species for a long while

[outer leaf]

WE ARE CHET MCLAIN WE GUARD THE VAULT GATE

[last ruin]

God I wish Steph would crush my skull with a Vault door with absolute disinterest at my worthless American life (respectfully)

[paper cradle]

I wanna ask what’s wrong with yall but my username is sure something

[outer leaf]

i wish shed stab the same fork in my eye that was in hers

[uncut plaza]

@fallow gorge sorry your image was removed for violating rule 2

!mute 1054186813419434106 30m user previously advised of rule 2

[cobalt dove]

.lauren.ipsum. muted _francisboy for 30 minutes. Reason: user previously advised of rule 2

[paper junco]

Off topic but fantastic full username, I love that lol

[sleek anvil]

Hey mr house and i am gay

[limber egret]

@paper junco any thoughts on "The Inevitable" as a track. I've seen people call it the Enclave track but nothing about it really jumps out.

[urban mantle]

That's what I'd name a track if it was gonna be played over something being nuked

[paper cradle]

Season 3:

Cooper: Lucy… Let’s Fall out

[limber egret]

Yeah name probably fits a pre-war scene maybe one of Coop realising how much he fucked up

[urban mantle]

Could also very well be a post war scene of some sort

Perhaps whatever happens when the mainframe goes offline?

[limber egret]

The Inevitable has more suspenseful and sinister vibe imo. Fits a slower scene than the chaos that I imagine happens when Lucy destroys the mainframe

[urban mantle]

The anticipation is starting to get to me

[hazy night]

also the fridge thing is a reference

[feral cloud]

Me mad I can't become the president until this is all over

[hazy night]

i think the fridge thing has been in every fallout since crystal skull has come out

[limber egret]

It does have what sounds like some Followers' Credo (the track used for the oil rig in F2) in there. So maybe that's where the Enclave comparison comes from.

[hazy night]

including shelter

[paper junco]

Will look in a bit once I can take my lunch, don’t remember anything off the top of my head

[maiden sedge]

If tmw the enclave show up as some dope ass faction in returning to my former favorite faction

[feral cloud]

𝚆𝙴 𝙽𝙴𝙴𝙳 𝙴𝚅𝙴𝚁𝚈𝙾𝙽𝙴 𝚃𝙾 𝙲𝙻𝙸𝙲𝙺 𝚃𝙷𝙴 𝙴𝙽𝙲𝙻𝙰𝚅𝙴 𝙴𝙼𝙾𝙹𝙸 𝚂𝙾 𝙸 𝙲𝙰𝙽 𝙶𝙴𝚃 𝙼𝚈 𝚂𝙴𝙲𝚁𝙴𝚃 𝙵𝚄𝚂𝙸𝙾𝙽 𝙵𝙾𝚁𝙼𝚄𝙻𝙰 𝚂𝙷𝙰𝙳𝚈 𝚂𝙰𝙽𝙳𝚂 𝙶𝙾𝚃 𝙱𝙾𝙼𝙱𝙴𝙳.

[pure sphinx]

I am someone who has never played fo3 or nv so may I have someone explain what the significance of the ncr helmet on the power armour means I have seen a lot of stuff saying it’s the couriers but how do they know?

[last ruin]

It's iconic. The courier was an NCR citizen but the helmet is just an aesthetic.

[visual echo]

Closest thing the courier has is mixing armors

[urban mantle]

It has no relation to the courier, just a vague resemblance to ranger armor (the stuff the two guys with the NCR are wearing)

[lusty ingot]

Courier never wore ranger armor

[urban mantle]

A ranger is rather famously used on the cover of NV so there's an iconic association between the two

They are also the coolest armor sets in the game for whatever that's worth

[sterile coral]

Plus, is it really that big of a deal to think that power armor is connected to the Courier?

[icy turtle]

Yes, because not everything has to be tied to one singular character in a show that's pretty irrelevant to them.
And it takes away credibility from the NCR and raises more questions than answers.

It's better for it to be something more akin to the NCR's ingenuity and capabilities to manufacture their own PA rather than it being exclusively tied to the Courier.

[night totem]

I feel like the Leondardo Dicaprio meme where he points at the tv

[viscid aurora]

if thaddeus becoming a centaur theory is indeed true, I feel like it will be set up to be one of te saddest scene

maybe him hiding away or going missing till Maximus eventually finds him

[real scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppMzOyrMMxw
I have a feeling its gonna be like this if thats the case

[paper junco]

I looked at it a bit more and honestly, the idea that it might be the Enclave theme now is probably one of the more likely scenarios, tbh. I think I originally didn't think too much of it because on the one hand, it SORT of sounds like a whole lot of the general 'mysterous' sort of music that Ramin writes while also sounding pretty similar to how Inon writes some of that sort of stuff, too. On the other hand, that particular track is far more intentional in using one exact motif (a little hard to call it a full theme at that length tbh) all throughout, and the inclusion on the score album makes me think it's a little more likely to be something specific than just generic mystery music.

Even back when I first listened though, that track was a ? for me lol

[paper junco]

I also checked Followers Credo (guessing you used/ran across the same reddit thread I found haha) and there's definitely some simular vibes, though idk how much they would have actually meant to reference that or anything else given the overall shying away from doing that.

[limber egret]

Really interesting, "promise to make better" is the only other track I was uncertain of.

[paper junco]

NOTABLY though, and mentioned earlier in this same chat, I do think this will be tied to Lucy destoying the main frame. We actually hear a very short version of her theme from 1:39 to 1:45 in the track near the end. If I were making bets, I think it's likely that it's associated with Enclave and that scene leading into her theme is almost two minutes of possibly Welch's head or Hank explaining to Lucy a bit about the Enclave, establishing properly what happened. If Hank, it's him pitching for why it was the only inevitable outcome was working with them. If Welch, it's about how she didn't understand what was happening in some capacity until it was too late and she leaned the president was Enclave.
The bit of Lucy's theme at the end then is her making her choice.

I even went back and listened to score when Wilzig had his scenes in S1 - there's an argument to be made (though tbh, mostly a bad one lol) for that material being related to this motif in The Inevitable. His scene with Barb in this season definitely didn't have any meaningful connection to this and sounded far more general score from the series.
Similar argument could be made for The Inevitable having motific connective tissue to Contingencies (though again - not a terribly good one), but most of that is pretty solidly stuff we've already heard in one capacity or another throughout the series.
Tbh I spent too long listening through scenes and that same track a bunch and now it's all starting to blend in my brain lmao

[limber egret]

Really good catch on the Lucy theme, would make sense for Lucy to be character to learn that.

[paper junco]

Also, fully agreed with what you said in #1447295973129978058 about Bet on Hope being the All the Answers for this season. It's interesting they're planning to mirror that whole sequence, at least musically, though I think has good potential to be very impactful. It was pretty potent in S1 and I think they aim to recreate that feeling.

[limber egret]

Is interesting what that could say about the tone they're going for this finale All the Answers was very somber. Bet on Hope still has some somber tone of that but also sounds a bit more hopeful

Whatever scene it's for is also likely Ghoul/Cooper focused

[paper junco]

It is curious that most of what's left is very somber / dramatic, not too much in regards to action or specific faction themes or anything.
But then again, given how much of the score hasn't been on the album (ESPECIALLY for BoS score), I'm willing to bet a large chunk of the music in the episode just isn't included at all.
There's going to be at least a song or two, also

[paper junco]

And yeah, I think that's pretty likely - or possibly tied to both of them. The EW article supports that, too

[icy turtle]

🙏🏿

[limber egret]

One common thing between Lucy, Max and Cooper is that they all adopt personas/values opposed to their real selves/feelings. Cooper with his Ghoul persona, Maximus with the Brotherhood and Lucy with Vault 33's culture. It's a fun comparison that becoming more human for Cooper involves becoming more idealistic but more Lucy it's shedding some of her idealism

[urban mantle]

Lucy seems to be pretty authentic to vault 33

[icy turtle]

I'm also confident next season w'ell be getting more Ghoul + Maximus scenes, of them growing closer. similar to how Lucy and ghoul did this season.

[urban mantle]

And then season 4 will of course focus on Thaddeus exclusively

[paper junco]

I mean this is SO overly speculative but I wonder if there's a plan for each of the 3 confirmed seasns to focus more / less on certain characters of the main 3. S1 certainly leaned more heavily towards Lucy and the reveals and things were built around her. S2 has very solidly been Coop/Ghoul, and I presume the finale will have more reveals leaning towards him. If that's the case, I wonder if then S3 will lean more towards Maximus, and end up ultimately having him be the focus of the finale. Maybe him fully shedding BoS and stepping into his own with the NCR or something of that sort.

[digital walrus]

I always wanted a centaurs perspective

[paper junco]

hopefully, it'll be him clunking, thumping, slithering, and dropping body parts all across the wasteland.

[urban mantle]

Exactly

[limber egret]

Yes but it's also stressed that Vault 33 isn't the "real world", and it's shown Lucy's moral framework just doesn't work in the Wasteland

[paper junco]

Thaddius hacking & whacking & Smacking his way across the wasteland

Then he wakes up and everything in S2 onward was just a dream. He's safe back in the brotherhood and all the fans are happy for them not 'retconning' things. /s

[old forum]

They need more episodes for the seasons

[paper junco]

welcome to TV under streaming

[icy turtle]

Yeah, definitely blame the pivot for streaming to this episodic style.

But tbf retention does make them more money, and they're definitely maintaining retention over this season.

[limber egret]

Could be they do seem to be going with him associating him the NCR given his backstory, using the Ranger Power Armor and likely being heavily involved in the Legion vs NCR stuff next episode in Freeside. Wonder what direction they could go with that, maybe realizing the reality of the NCR isn't an idealistic as he thought it was?

[icy turtle]

He'll probably become an NCR Hero, at this point.

Idk about President, but someone that's able to go out and get stuff done.

[limber egret]

Would be nice for them to clear up a lot of the NCR worldbuilding. Like what happened to the rest of the nation

[paper junco]

Yeah, I think it's more likely he becomes a proxy for renewed hope in the NCR and helps to further establish meaning there within them, more than it being the opposite and him realizing the NCR isn't what he had hoped.

[icy turtle]

In due time.

[paper junco]

Though that would be intense and a big bummer if he does find that lol

[urban mantle]

I have a sneaking suspicion that they're just gonna stick to this 'it's all gone now' thing

[limber egret]

I'd be fine with the NCR being "broadly good but flawed"

[paper junco]

yes don't worry, within the next 5 - 10 years when they finish FO5 we'll finally get some answers lmao

[icy turtle]

I better see the NCR in a more pivotal presence in S3. lol

[limber egret]

I mean that battalion probably isn't going to disappear again if they're showing up in Freeside

[icy turtle]

Probably not, im curious what the finale is gonna look like.

[paper junco]

only 26 more hours and your curiosity will be no more

[limber egret]

For Freeside I'm guessing Maximus will kill the Deathclaws with or without the help of the Freesiders, Then the Legion will show up. Then the NCR shows up to help

[ashen sapphire]

my body is ready

[ashen sapphire]

i dont think the freesiders are doing shit

[paper junco]

I think that order switches - I think the NCR swoops in just in time to keep Maximus from dying to the deathclaws. Someone has to save him from him being pinned in the armor from the trailer.
unless Legion shows up first and that distracts them? Then he ends up outside his armor, then NCR shows?
I don't really see Freeside rallying and saving him.

[limber egret]

I'd be funny if Maximus speech 100s Lacerta into fleeing. First character to preform a successful speech check and it's Maximus

[ashen sapphire]

maybe the NCR shows up and the legion is alerted of their presence and thats why they show up

[paper junco]

Despite his character growth, I don't really see Maximus managing to save himself from those deathclaws lmao

[ashen sapphire]

im assuming the episode is gonna start with the legion

[limber egret]

Would also make sense for the NCR to know Maximus is on their side if they see him fighting in their armor

[paper junco]

We still have to see Macauley like, take over and all that, right? We never saw him stab the fellow, did we?
I am expecting a marching montage, but honestly any number of other things could happen first before they get to the strip. The entire Maximus thing could already wrap up and NCR could be there before the Legion even appears in the finale, I suppose.

[icy turtle]

yeah that'll happen before the actual March, I imagine.

[limber egret]

I think it will be montage of the Legion killing eachother, both Caesars dying, then Lacerta reading the note which will likely say something like "I am Caesar, I am the Legion", then he stabs the Legionary with him and gives some speech about how he's chosen successor

Likely will be set to "Cause and Effect" since this is the indirect result of Cooper blowing up the Legion camps

[paper junco]

He reads the note that says "I am Caeser, I am the Legion".
When challenged or giving the speech, he's speech checked with people not believing him.
Macauley tells everyone the note said "I am Caeser" and they're like aight, yeah, I guess he is Caeser

[atomic cedar]

We need a scene of Legate Kevinus setting traps for the NCR

https://tenor.com/view/bang-head-home-alone2-home-alone-harry-marv-gif-15596562

[limber egret]

I think the Legion stuff will open the episode and end the opening with them marching to Vegas, setups their arrival and has a sense of dread for when exactly they'll show up

[ashen sapphire]

i think the legionary he stabs is the one who retrieves the note and gives it to lacerta

[limber egret]

I've heard the finale will be one hour and fifteen minutes, If true that's pretty good. Season One had that long for episode one and a one hour finale, Season 2 maybe reverses that with a shorter premiere but longer finale.

Considering how many storylines they have to wrap up and set up for season 3 I really hope it is longer

[icy turtle]

ten minutes of credits.

[ashen sapphire]

it really just depends how they pace it

episode 1 of this season felt very long

[atomic cedar]

Am curious to see if the mention the platinum chip

[limber egret]

Yeah in reality that probably is like a 3 minute recap and 10 minutes of credits but hopeful they can fit enough into one hour for everything to end on a satisfying enough note

[icy turtle]

Maybe not? I mean we know it was delivered but.

[limber egret]

We have NCR and Legion in Freeside, Lucy, Coop and Hank in the facility, Pre-War Coop, Norm, and the Vault plotline

[ashen sapphire]

assuming the ncr troopers are not a flashback

[limber egret]

There is really no reason to have an NCR in Freeside flashback, so unlikely imo

[atomic cedar]

Flashback to what

[paper junco]

There's no real reason to think NCR would be a flashback and not real time, imo

[ashen sapphire]

i wouldnt be surprised if we get a flashback of the NCR getting pushed out of the strip

[limber egret]

Almost every flashback has been framed around the POV of a major character, a random NCR one isn't likely

[atomic cedar]

Enclave is still doing experiments with mind control and F.E.V.

[ashen sapphire]

during house and coops talk

[atomic cedar]

I guess there's a possibility of showing what happened to New Vegas

Maybe the NCR was there when ||enclave|| showed up with deathclaws

[limber egret]

If House is going to talk about NCR and Legion fighting it'd be framed around the fighting currently happening

[paper junco]

I guess that's not like, entirely unreasonable...but I sort of doubt it. I still think it makes more sense for NCR to be entirely real-time

[atomic cedar]

I don't see an explainable reason for NCR to randomly show up

[ashen sapphire]

i feel like we would've seen more leaks of a big fight if there was one

[atomic cedar]

They probably did most of the fighting scenes on a stage

In a studio

[merry jolt]

I think it’s gonna be the Freeside residents and not the NCR

[atomic cedar]

Freeside residents just wearing a bunch of NCR uniforms?

[merry jolt]

No, I mean, that save Maximus’ bacon

I think that’s another scene entirely

[paper junco]

It is true that if the fighting is in Freeside, that was a closed set and would have been easy to keep leaks away. If it was on the strip itself, actually, they really couldn't have hidden that and i think leaks would have happened. Unless yeah, the setup sections of the strip on soundstages properly built out for stunts, which could be

[atomic cedar]

Looks like the battle is outside Freeside and the strip on the road to NV where legion is marching

[limber egret]

They've generally shown Wastelanders to be apathetic at best, so having Maximus or even Thaddeus rally them to do something would be nice

[atomic cedar]

Seems like the legion will be facing a few securitrons

[ashen sapphire]

basically everything we've seen so far and the teaser for ep8 have shown us that freesiders are bums

i dont think they have the motivation or the strength to beat deathclaws

[paper junco]

the reason would be aura farming lol
But either the third NCR trooper/Rodriguez could have made contact or even fled when Biff was taken.
Or, like, they've mentioned a few times was that they're basically holding out hope that the NCR actually does send reinforcements. That's been established, so maybe it's now that it happens.

[atomic cedar]

My guess is that while maximus fighting deathclaws, the legion will show up and House will send securitrons to fend off legion before NCR shows up

[limber egret]

That's the point of having them find it, having Thaddeus do it would also call back to Maximus appealing to Thaddeus's better nature, which in turn was inspired by Lucy

[paper junco]

Yeah, in the trailer they were also betting on the fight and saying if he loses they're all going to die lol

Though, it could be a good character moment for Thad to step up and rally the town, but like...idk

[atomic cedar]

He will lose his other arm

[ashen sapphire]

find what?

[limber egret]

Find motivation to save their home

[ashen sapphire]

i dont see them having the firepower

[paper junco]

Thaddius goes to give a big dramatic fist in the air to accentuate his call to rally the folks, they almost buy it, but he looks over and his other arm is gone, the energy deflates, freeside doesn't rally

[limber egret]

Honestly that'd feel too pathetic even for Thaddeus

[ashen sapphire]

i know the post credits cinematics are not canon, but what if the post credits cinematic of the strip last season was the aftermath of the finale

considering we see a deathclaw skull and fallen NCR vertibird

[limber egret]

he's had some moments of serious with his talk with Maximus at the campfire and he's already had that moment of bathos with losing one arm preventing him from helping

[paper junco]

Honestly so many options lol
Legion & NCR fight en route to vegas, big wasteland fight.
Legion gets to the strip first, kill deathclaws, fight securitrons, NCR shows up near the end as more of a lead in for S3.
NCR gets to the strip and saves Maximus, they all rally together against Legion.
Probably lots of other options
BOS or Enclave somehow legitimately showing up to Vegas I suppose would be some out of left field options and super unlikely imo but not fully impossible.

[limber egret]

I think if the Enclave show up physically it will be related to Vault 33, maybe a callback to the Fallout 2 intro with them kidnapping the Vault(s)

I feel like we probably would have had Advanced Power Armor/X-01 leaked if it showed up, so probably the same guys from S1 with the black uniforms and white helmets

[atomic cedar]

I definitely think BoS showing up is pretty likely

[paper junco]

Yeah, I think it's already unlikely the Enclave shows up at all, but even more unlikely Advanced Power Armor / X-01 shows up.

Though that would be a super badass cliffhanger to leave on, like, strip stuff wraps up in some capacity, the Enclave has been established in the show, and then they show up to kidnap some vault dwellers, one of their power armors appears as just a silhouette.

[atomic cedar]

Commonwealth would be desperate for cold fusion

We will absolutely see the enclave

They have been teased this entire season

[paper junco]

A proper enclave reveal will absolutely happen, but I think them physically showing up to the strip (or elsewhere, really) as a force won't happen.

[icy turtle]

This is the only thing im like 99% sure isn't happening.

[atomic cedar]

Them just not showing up again would be really weird

[icy turtle]

I think because Lucy's focus was s1, and cooper's focus was s2, the BOS will get focus around maximus esp if he's joining the NCR. I bet you any money, if Maximus does join their ranks - Quintus will start a war out of it. He's still alive. Maximus has to reconcile that.

[icy turtle]

Nah it makes perfect sense, there not in the position to show up, or recover. They just lost their airship.

[atomic cedar]

Hell the final episode could be legion, NCR and bos all showing up to NV at the same time

[icy turtle]

and the other chapters abandoned quintus, he will need time to recover, weeks or months.

[atomic cedar]

The West coast yes

[night totem]

It'll be a guy in a X-01 walking out of a dark background saying........... idk

[icy turtle]

Yes, almost all of this is happening on the West Coast, the East Coast isn't coming all the way over to join the fight.

[atomic cedar]

Yes they are lol

[icy turtle]

They won't.

[atomic cedar]

That was the whole point of the west coast trying to team up

[icy turtle]

If it wasn't against the rules, I'd bet money on it. lol

[bright fable]

I feel like all the theories about Thaddeus being a centaur are misguided. From my knowledge of the lore, the only way a centaur can be formed is by dropping a human and other animals into an FEV vat, Thaddeus inhaled an aerosol like version of what I think was FEV, similar to Harold. And Harold also had strange mutations and his arm fell off as well. What do yall think

[icy turtle]

No the whole point of the West teaming up was to go against the East and strengthen the WESTERN region. The whole point was not for the East going to the West, to defend themselves against the East.

[leaden furnace]

I’m curious how Quintus would be in a position to start a war after this season given he’d have lost most of his forces and his airship

[icy turtle]

He'd have to recover, or he defects in some way.

[leaden furnace]

Need to be a notable time jump for him to recover in any notable capacity tbh.

[atomic cedar]

They wanted to be able to be in control of the bos but without unification the east coast would come kill them all and with Xander showing up that was made more clear they wanted cold fusion now that Xander is dead it's going to bring the east coast over to take cold fusion by force

That's why Xander dying was such a big deal

[bright fable]

rip roboboi

Wasnt he a synth? or am I misremembering that

[icy turtle]

What??? That's not what happend at all. Quintus wanted to unite them under his banner because he disagreed with Maxson's rule.
The East was going to come over because they broke the chain that binds. Xander showing up was them following up on the order they gave the West in Season 1, to retrieve the bounty, Quintus never reported it to them. They wanted cold fusion because it was a relic from the Enclave.

That's even assuming Xander was telling the truth.

Logistically, it'll be almost impossible for the East to come over and war with all the factions without preperation.

[atomic cedar]

They wanted cold fusion because Xander said they needed it for the Commonwealth

[icy turtle]

Again, we don't know if that's a lie or not.

[atomic cedar]

That's bad faith

[icy turtle]

That is not, Xander is not reliable.

[atomic cedar]

Why would they just lie when they have the firepower to enforce it

Also the east definitely could show up only takes a few days to travel the country via airships

[icy turtle]

He literally has better equipment, and back ups if need be. That's not evidence of a faction struggling by any means.
And you say 'they' Xander acts as an individual, while yes he represents, he can lie and would lie if it's what he needed to do to get cold fusion.

[atomic cedar]

Maximus literally says he started a war after killing xander

Xander just lying the whole time wouldn't make any sense for the narrative

Just have that entire arc meaningless

[icy turtle]

Yes, because he killed a liaison. lol Not because they didn't give Cold Fusion. The Commonwealth killing them all only comes up AFTER Xander dies, not before.
Xander lying makes perfect sense for the narrative if he's using whatever methods it means to get cold fusion. Appealing to Maximus's humanity.

[icy turtle]

You're applying the relevance to the faction, it's more relevant to Maximus. It makes perfect sense as a character arc for Maximus.

[atomic cedar]

I don't see any reason to believe he was lying

The show is pretty straightforward

[icy turtle]

Because he has better equipment than the West - and access to stuff they don't have, and he's acting like they're in dire straits. lol

Which is the very thing Quintus wants to fight them over.

[paper junco]

I think Xander's legitimacy and/or any actual involvement of the East coast BoS is S3 or even later. I do agree with Ajax that the BoS is very unlikely to show up again. maybe just like, seeing Quintis again to know he's alive and angry or something, but not more than that. BoS showing up to the strip is muddy as hell, and also a redo of S1's finale.

[icy turtle]

I think the BOS will show up, it just won't be the East.

[atomic cedar]

It's already a redo of s1 finale big battle between factions

[paper junco]

Not if it's being established for something down the road. I mean, chicken fucker was a weird as side character who seemed useless in S1 beyond comedic tension, and he clearly had more to do because he was established then.
Xander being there was, for character growth, about Maximus, not about bringing the East Coast BoS to the West Coast this season.

[atomic cedar]

Even if it's not in season 2 the east coast BoS is absolutely coming to the west

It's absolutely wild comparing the chicken guy to an entire faction

The entire point of the arc was setting up a BoS civil war

[paper junco]

do you think they're rolling up on the strip itself for combat? Or just making an apperance so we know what state Quintis' faction is in for the next season? I think the latter is likely, the former is not.

[atomic cedar]

And getting maximus out

[peak apex]

I think the BoS civil war will be a plot point in Fallout 5. We probably won’t see the BoS in the show for a while

[real scroll]

So are the Mojave Branch still in the bunker

[atomic cedar]

While I'm not saying the BoS will show up to the strip they will definitely show them one way or another

[atomic cedar]

Long dead

[paper junco]

sure - but not right now. I'm using chicken fucker to say that they established him as existing, to then do things with him down the road.
East Coast BoS were just established and given some reason to be seen later, but not this season. And honestly if their plan is leading into Seasons 3 - 5ish, plus connecting with the eventual FO5, I honestly think it's not impossible that it's even further down the road.

[ashen sapphire]

the only thing that makes me think the BOS is gonna be involved in the final fight, is the BOS flags and vertibirds in the finale poster

[ashen sapphire]

flag*

[icy turtle]

I'd be mostly surprised if that's the case? The brotherhood hasn't been shown, teased, or mentioned in any of the finale stuff or promo material

If the Brotherhood was going to show up, they'd be promoting it.

It's Todd's flagship faction, especially if it's the Eastern brotherhood, that's Todd's lovechild.
He'd take every opportunity to plaster them as poster boys if he can do it.

[paper junco]

I don't think that's intended to actually be for just the finale. If it is, it's NOTABLY missing the Legion, and it shows radscorpions which were already earlier on and bringing them back in again seems unnecessary. I just think that's a full season poster

[ashen sapphire]

i think they will be included in the finale, just not as an actual force in the final fight

[atomic cedar]

There's a lot of stuff we don't know about the finale

[ashen sapphire]

i think there will also be an enclave appearance, im predicting will be the very start of the episode

[atomic cedar]

Enclave is 100% going to show up

[paper junco]

this is true, but we so also have a lot of broad strokes that we do know that make it more or less likely for some other things to be happening

[icy turtle]

It's possible I just highly doubt it. If they are, it's remnants of the Western force. People keep wanting to bring the East without understanding the show is serving as a Western development for the next mainline installment. That's the reason they chose to put majority of the tv show content on the West.

[atomic cedar]

Probably at the end as a cliffhanger

[atomic cedar]

And the western BoS is falling apart so naturally bringing the east coast BoS to fill that role in the West coast

[ashen sapphire]

they're clearly setting up something to do with the BOS, it would be weird to not leave at least a tidbit in the finale for them

[icy turtle]

We dunno what the state of that battle is like with Quintus and the other Chapters, again, they left that fate ambiguous. Odds are they'll do stuff with Quintus before they ever touch the East.

Quintus was literally trapped, and we don't know who was last standing in that fight, it makes zero sense to bring the East - when they can just have Quintus's Chapter be victorious, and rally for a finale push, that way.

[ashen sapphire]

i dont think they would show specifically the caswennan going down if they were going to be victorious

[icy turtle]

They still have landed vertibirds?

[ashen sapphire]

i guess, but they were clearly losing the battle

[icy turtle]

And those vertibirds can easily be used to hijack another airship, if they wanted. Again, we don't know the fate of that battle. So it's silly to assume the East will come in. Until Quintus and his Chapter's fate is confirmed, probably assume they're still going to use him and his BOS.

[ashen sapphire]

i definitely dont think the east is gonna be directly involved, but i think its gonna setup them getting ready to come

[icy turtle]

If we move locations again next season, im confident the East won't be coming.

[ashen sapphire]

i dont see any BOS involved in the final fight, its already big enough with the legion, ncr(?), freesiders, max, lucy(?), coop(?) and house

[icy turtle]

Yeah, that's sort of my point, too. The BOS have been outta the plot for a few episodes, and zero evidence showing they're aware of what's going on. Odds are they're recovering, or cleaning up before they regroup. We have to keep in mind too, there's more Chapters West, and in far less distance than the East is, Quintus could also enlist their help. Especially if he lies about Maximus and makes some grand claim about him stealing a relic that can destroy or change the fate of the Wasteland.

[lusty ingot]

I mean not a lie sense he did steal a relic which can change the fate of the wasteland

[ashen sapphire]

it would be weird to not include their poster faction in the finale in some way

[icy turtle]

It wouldn't. They literally haven't been mentioned, it'd be more weird and jarring if the Brotherhood shows up out of nowhere.

[ashen sapphire]

i mean just as setup for season 3

[icy turtle]

We'll probably get an update on their status. And see what they're like heading into S3, but I am super skeptical of them showing up in any capacity for the final battle.

[ashen sapphire]

i think it would be cool if we get a midwest tease

[ashen sapphire]

yeah i agree

[icy turtle]

people also have to remember, these characters - even the factions, somewhat are an extension of the protagonists narratives.
So if the BOS is still around, it's more likely gonna be with Quintus, because Quintus is still a loose end Maximus needs to settle.

[ashen sapphire]

yeah but that can also extend to the east because max killed xander

[icy turtle]

Somewhat yes, but that means we have to analyze what Xander said. If Xander was telling the truth, there's no feasible way the East can come back to the West. They have their hands full fighting whoever, at that point and it's super unrealistic to expect Maxson, as stubborn as he is, to abandon his Boston position to hunt down Cold Fusion.

[atomic cedar]

It would give the east even more reason to come to the west to get the macguffin

[icy turtle]

It literally wouldn't. Again, there's no logistical reality in where this works.

[atomic cedar]

They're in airships

Would take less than a week to get from commonwealth to NV

[icy turtle]

It doesn't matter if they have airships or not? Logistics wise it still makes no sense. An airship doesn't negate the cost effectiveness of what it would mean to abandon their stronghold over Boston.

[atomic cedar]

If they don't have the capability of holding it (needs cold fusion) then they absolutely would focus their resources on retrieving it

[icy turtle]

The argument is basically saying that Maxson would abandon both DC, and Boston to come West to chase the MacGuffin, leaving the Commonwealth in the hands of the enemy.

It makes ZERO sense.

[atomic cedar]

Chekovs gun

[icy turtle]

And it's not in Maxson's character, regardless from what the lore says about him.

[icy turtle]

If Maxson was involved in the narrative, I'd agree. But he's not. Nor does that principle apply when the Brotherhood narrative solely existed at Maximus's expense. The BOS is only as relevant as they'll be because of Maximus.

[atomic cedar]

They repeat ad nauseum that the east coast is not only capable but willing to come fight

Quintus says it, Xander says it and Maximus straight up says it he just started a war

The east coast is a player when it comes to wanting the cold fusion

[icy turtle]

If the East Coast was in that dire straits, they would've been there since the beginning they are not. Because it's not relevant to Maximus. Maximus's character takes precedent over whether or not the East will appear. But we'll find out tomorrow.

[atomic cedar]

And yes he's directly referring to the east coast when he says I just started a war

[icy turtle]

Yes, but again, it negates all of Maxson's character, I'll bet money they won't appear.

[atomic cedar]

They can very easily say they left behind enough to hold Commonwealth

[icy turtle]

Maxson is not stupid, he's not going to full send his forces into the West. He's going to send multiple scouts, multiple squads, the same way he did it in the Commonwealth BEFORE he waged a War. It's canon he won that war anyway, and he'd probably be following the same tactics. The East could potentially send scouts or more paladins at most, but they will never invade the West.

[atomic cedar]

So you think the east coast subplot is just nothing

That they brought them up so much just to do nothing with it

[icy turtle]

It was a cameo/easter egg mention AT best, yes, I think the whole point of the TV show is to keep everything insulated in the West because that's where the next game will take place. They've made it abundantly clear they're not looking to merge the Wastelands together.

Like i said if they show up, it'll be small scale,

A scouting party, maybe a paladin squad. The same way Maxson sent squads of BOS members to other Wastelands before fully investigating or invading.

[paper junco]

They brought East Coast Brotherhood up for options in the future - that’s how having multiple seasons of TV shows often work, especially this one.

[icy turtle]

If the show extends to like 4 or 5 seasons and the East is brought up more, I can potentially see them playing a bigger part, yes.

But as of the plot is now, there's just little to no evidence of it. It's a narrative option, that's there if they want to take it but there's nothing guaranteed about it.

[paper junco]

Agreed

[icy turtle]

It's literally the Faceless plot from GOT, if anyone remembers. They were there as a narrative option, and intended to play a bigger role but never did. Things change, and the story is evolving. My opinion on it might change if more stuff becomes more apparent.

[olive silo]

Few more days now

[vivid ferry]

War between East and West.

The giants of the Earth meet at last, to judge the fate of a corpse long dead.

[urban mantle]

war between the coasts would be very difficult for the brotherhood

they'd need to commit massive resources to fighting eachother and the ultimate outcome would probably be the brotherhood shrinking in scope and influence massively

[icy turtle]

It'd actually be so ass. I'm ngl, im super against the whole East vs West thing.

At most I can see them interacting with each other, as they have been. But, as for a full blown invasion? Nah. At least not for a few game with more of a build up to tensions rising.

[icy turtle]

It would basically undermine Maxson's entire growth, which would be silly to do given how much promotion and money they've poured into his character across all of his media excluding the show.

[urban mantle]

the west is also certainly no longer a coherent force, if anything it'd be west vs west

[fickle field]

wait I just realized

wouldn’t it have been 6 AM when the bombs dropped on LA in the show

Why was it so damn bright outside

[lilac dock]

yeah its an inconsistency

[fickle field]

😭

[last ruin]

Daylight savings or something probably

[vivid ferry]

Listen I just want to see some cool shit happen

[sterile coral]

Like Liberty Prime stomping on Quintus’s bunch like he did the Enclave back East?

[vivid ferry]

I wanna see Liberty Prime show up in any way or form

[peak rapids]

i don’t remember if it was mentioned or not, would have to do a rewatch, but wouldn’t the world have ended regardless of the president getting cold fusion?

[icy turtle]

Yeah, nuclear war as guaranteed.
Evidence still heavily supports the fact that China most likely fired first anyways. All the show does is recontextualize the dropping of bombs showcasing Vault tec wanted to, and may have even planned to - but we never see them actually do it, or push the buttons. Even then, all the lore from FO2, FO76, and FO4 support that America - the Enclave included, was caught off guard by the launch. Indicating someone else did it.

[urban mantle]

I think the implication is that them acquiring cold fusion accelerates the enclave's agenda somewhat, given that house says cooper's presence pushed the date forward

[peak rapids]

canada did it!

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-canadian-2x07-fallout-tv-harper-gif-1475335011601705197

[prisma totem]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-buddy-guy-friend-canadian-gif-6183589

Pre-war Canada

[glass rune]

I dont think lucy will be the one to change the wasteland maximus will be

[sterile coral]

Maximus doesn’t strike me as having the usual Fallout protagonist energy.

[sterile coral]

Don’t forget Quintus shitting himself in fear at that sight.

[icy turtle]

Yeah, until we know the scope of FO5, and how their roles will effect it - idk who or what either of them'll be.

[steady ridge]

Watching the ep rn, the NCR power armor looks rlly cool

Max is in his NCR era

Why did Thaddeus’ arm fall off like that oh my god 😭

[sterile coral]

The prodigal son has returned home, from a certain point of view.

[steady ridge]

Watching him fight the deathclaws now

I love Maximus, he’s lowkey getting his ass beat but it’s okay

[small flicker]

he did pretty alright

[steady ridge]

Loving the ep so far

The power armor is like nothing I’ve ever seen, it’s very interesting in a good way. It’s like it was crafted for Maximus in a way

[vivid ferry]

AI slop

Some REAL art.

[fringe loom]

!mute 511957902555217922 6h Repeat offender, Rule 2

[cobalt dove]

deviant1166 muted radiointeractive for 6 hours. Reason: Repeat offender, Rule 2

[vivid ferry]

Something interesting I noticed is that Season 1 and Season 2 treat the NCR VERY differently.

Season 1 just treats them as some random background faction that died offscreen, shows their ruins and overall doesn't give them a good presentation at all.

Season 2 does some of the say but does actually attempt to project the NCR in a way better light. This is much more apparent at the end of the season when the Fallout theme plays when Maximus gets the NCR power armor or when the people of Freeside are cheering when a guy with NCR gear shows up. Like I think it's a weird shift, but maybe that's just me.

[idle mist]

They probably heard the complaints. Ppl were mad they blew up shady sands.

[small flicker]

it’s kinda jarring it does feel like damage control a little bit

[leaden furnace]

The NCR are definitely more present this season but I think the overall tone regarding them has been consistently positive

Plus S1 did have the Vault 4 and ranger scavengers

[upper shard]

??
The one time the Fallout theme played in the entirety of S1 is when the NCR flag appeared.
Shady Sands's destruction is what kicked off the entire plot.

What do you mean they're treated as a random background faction

[idle mist]

Well I mean the ncr was never really the bad guys in the first place

[leaden furnace]

Once this series became explicitly about critiquing more than just “human nature” the NCR were kinda always fated to be bad by proxy, even if they’re not trying to be malicious or insane.

[idle mist]

I just wish we’d seen more of Moldaver like I need to know how she’s alive and is affiliated with the ncr. Hopefully they haven’t forgotten about her.

[vivid ferry]

I mean, it's WAY more prominent than last season.

[upper shard]

Ofcourse it is. S1 set them up. S2 built on it

That's how story progression works

[lilac dock]

Almost as if theyre building up to their return

[vivid ferry]

Hell, the NCR technically has more screentime this season than the actual Legion

And we don't even know what happened to them

[upper shard]

Same way S1 set House up and he appears way more this season

It's progression. Not something random

[idle mist]

I think S1’s main intention was to appeal to the general public, not only just fallout fans, that’s why they ease us through the lore. And it worked, I mean a lot of ppl who weren’t fallout fans love this show now.

[vivid ferry]

Also, on the NCR ranger power armor.

I think it's some kind of retrofitted T-60 or T-45. Someone made a point that some of the parts on the armor look overtly bolted on and a lot of the welded seams look uneven, which suggests that the NCR actually added onto an existing armor.

[idle mist]

I don’t think we’ll find out exactly what happened in vegas in the future too. Cause there really isn’t a perfect ending in the game like fo3

[idle mist]

The arms are t-45 and the torso is t-60 it looks like

[vivid ferry]

Small part of me is hoping this isn't just some one-off prototype cause it would suck for it not to ever appear again.

[leaden furnace]

The NCR mass producing their own power armor would be a bit silly given their available technology and industrial capacity as presented in NV

Maybe a couple of prototypes existing at most can be justifiable

[vivid ferry]

That's fine. It's just such an interesting concept with such little lore that I hope they explore in in Fallout 5 or another season

[vivid ferry]

And then there's Long 15 where NCR heavy troopers have plasma casters, gatling lasers, etc.

Probably some special forces unit, in all seriosuness

[leaden furnace]

I’m assuming that’s all scavenged tech, not manufactured

[idle mist]

The hub is the biggest ncr city right? Would be cool if the show would touch on it someday. Maybe even give us a look at the current president.

[vivid ferry]

Random question, but who would you think would win? Commonwealth Brotherhood, or NCR in their prime?

[idle mist]

That’s kind of unfair lol 1 bos chapter vs the whole ncr?

[leaden furnace]

I mean if the eastern BoS is on their own then definitely the NCR

If they’re allowed to reinforce the western chapters they’d be quite valuable though

[vivid ferry]

Huh, I was thinking Maxson's BOS with their giant flying aircraft carrier, hundreds of vertibirds and armored units would put up more of a fight.

[sudden sand]

loving the deathclaw theme this season

[leaden furnace]

Not sure if they could singlehandedly turn the tide of the war but they may be able to do massive damage to the NCR in that scenario.

[vivid ferry]

Actually, now that I remember, Season finale showed NCR remnants having a form of anti-air.

[sudden sand]

ehhhhh no

well unless you mean the rocket pods. in which case yes

[leaden furnace]

Well the Prydwen would be vulnerable to artillery bombardment, and the BoS wouldn’t be able to move around consistently. Based off of my memory of the FO4 terminals they had significant issues with the reactor that forced them to settle down at the airport

[idle mist]

Doing massive damage is what the commonwealth chapter only good for

[vivid ferry]

Well duh, what did you think I was talking about

[leaden furnace]

The BoS are significantly outnumbered here especially if they can only use the Prydwen to move their forces

[sudden sand]

the duel barrel machine gun a few people were seen operating would do jack against a vertibird

[leaden furnace]

They’d probably just get swamped by the NCR like the Enclave did

[sudden sand]

forgot they had rocket emplacements, guess they only had a few spare cus they basically fired off 2

[vivid ferry]

Those were 7.62 machine guns. The 50 cal emplacements in the warehouse of Episode 7 might be able to do more damage

[sudden sand]

the only person who can use em effectively is currently on the ground

not that he needs them, the promo for the finale shows the suits mortars firing

[leaden furnace]

Like tbh I’m pretty sure the west coast BoS vs Maxson’s chapter would likely end with Maxson losing, just due to the west coasts sheer numbers. They had at least 7 confirmed bunkers, definitely more as well given the existence of the Elder council and the ambiguity on what happened to Lost Hills.

[vivid ferry]

I just realized Maximus could have just ripped the guns off and used them against the Deathclaws

[vivid ferry]

I think you missed the scene where the elders of all chapters clearly express aloud that the Commonwealth would absolutely annihilate all of them.

[sudden sand]

im assumign him firing off the suits mortars is accidental. because he clearly doesnt know it has that function in the deathclaw fight we saw

[leaden furnace]

This is in the Fallout tv show yeah, which is after the NCR-BoS war

Quintus only had 3 other chapters “supporting” him as well

[vivid ferry]

They still had a sizable force from the looks of it, plus four airships plus cold fusion.

[leaden furnace]

We don’t really know the extent of these chapters forces and how many bunkers they have if any, just that they were generally well equipped, but they largely seem highly incompetent.

[sudden sand]

cold fusion isnt useful tho in that other than recharging fusion cores

[idle mist]

Btw now that Maxson is confirmed alive, the canon fo4 ending has got to be the one where rr, mm, and bos bands together right?

[sudden sand]

the knights we see in quintus's forces are dumbasses , and theres no indication the tongueless guys knights are any better

being able to recharge cores ultimately means nothing if your long dead anyway

[vivid ferry]

Well, theoretically speaking, if they were stooped to levels of dumbfuckery required, they could jerry-rig it to a improvised nuke

[leaden furnace]

The west coast BoS at their prime pre-NV were described as being highly trained and skilled. Pretty sure even the shittiest Mojave chapter paladins/knights are better than any of Quintus’ lot lmao

Quintus mainly just has an equipment and recruitment advantage

Which speaking of, I find it interesting that the BoS out west don’t make a big deal of taking in outsiders now

Even when they were forced into hiding in NV they refused to give up the policy

[vivid ferry]

I think that helps explain why a lot of the Brotherhood knights are fucking idiots. They're inbred or something

Think about it, they don't seem to actively recruit and still rely on "producing" soldiers through squires they birthed in bunkers

[idle mist]

The Elijah effect

[leaden furnace]

Elijah was unusually progressive for an Elder

[crude jungle]

I didn't really understand why Cooper chose to power up house

[vivid ferry]

Something something, bring lesser evil against the greater forces of evil

I think he'll be an asset in the war against the Enclave

[leaden furnace]

He had no way of finding the Vault otherwise

The idea is likely to give House what he wants and House will help him in return

[steady ridge]

Since the vault facility Hank is in is in Vegas, it’s more than likely that house knows it’s there or at least has relevant information regarding its exact location and how to access it. Not just that but House also wanted cold fusion to power Las Vegas and its defense system, given that house is now online and the deathclaws are out, he might trigger the defenses

[crude jungle]

Makes sense

[glass rune]

tbh the people in there could help house

the wasteland needs genetic pre war dna\

[steady ridge]

IF he triggers his robots it might also put him in the good graces of the citizens of freeside as well, since the strip is barren

[sudden sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoliDDekm0s&list=RDYoliDDekm0s&index=1 this is the deathclaw sequence from ep 4 if im not mistaken

[steady ridge]

Yeah there’s no way he will help out of the goodness of his heart. He will ask something of Coop eventually

[vivid ferry]

What are our thoughts on this interpretation of Coop being a gary stu?

[glass rune]

I think thats why coop went to him

house doesnt mess around with his words and is one of the more honest people left in the world

[icy turtle]

how can he get so much stuff wrong lol

[sudden sand]

whoever wrote that needs to find another job, critical thinking aint doing it for them

[steady ridge]

Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. He might be a little crazy but he’s not the enclave at least, and to some degree he can be trusted

I was internally screaming at cooper when he handed the capsule to the president

[sudden sand]

the only thing ill give them , is we are meeting too many pre war people for it not to be getting a bit stale

[vivid ferry]

Elaborate a bit further, please

[glass rune]

my dumbass brain

what if coop is the courier

[sudden sand]

half those things are stuff the games main charactors do

coop is the main charactor of the show not lucy

goddamit bethesda why does going up close to soemthing in camera view in 76 make it disapear, i need close ups

[idle mist]

What if Coop was the unborn child I aborted in 2009

Is it too late to say /j

[icy turtle]

Majority of this, is already what most protagonists do in every Fallout game - which no one bitches about, ever but now it's a problem. Not only that Ghouls don't necessarily require food, they can live for a while without eating as long as them turning into a feral is staved off?
He didn't make the movie that gave Dogmeat his name? Dogmeat was inspired through out of game means from Madmax crossing with the IRL movie a Boy & his Dog.
He can one-shot a T60, and only does it i think to 3 or 4 PA suits in the S1 finale? It doesn't apply to all PAs.
Immune to small arms is a stretch? It definitely slows him down, him being immune isn't true.
Why are two actors meeting each other an issue, again?
Does everyone really think he's a bad ass? I feel like it's super silly to assume. No one really cares about how he comes across. He's actually treated as stand-off-ish by most aside from the Governor, Lucy, his Ghoul friend, and NCR.
Wtf does he also mean by doesn't look ugly, we're just nitpicking. Bro's nose is gone completely.

I think people forget that Gary Stu/Mary Stue means a perfect idealized character, with common author self-insert tropes, who tends to be exceptionally skilled at everything, while being loved by everyone lol. When Coop has quite literally been the cause of his own unmaking more times than anything, and unironically sent the world into oblivion, or at least sped it up. He's anything but perfect.

[paper junco]

I was actually looking at these earlier - it might have been the Anchorage flashback, but I actually think it ended up being the opening scene of E5, nearly certainly it was the scene with Lucy / The Ghoul escaping the strip and running from the deathclaws.

[sudden sand]

i feel like its a general track that inorporates different tracks

cus i can hear the ep 4 final sequence. the ep 5 intro escape. and the ep 7 end of fight

[idle mist]

This would suck because he didn’t use Walton as the face claim and his cowboy accent so we have to picture some generic white guy like Glenn Powell for this

[paper junco]

Ah yeah, that could be. There’s a few tracks that are definitely combined cues - combining all of the deathclaw stuff together would make some sense. I know the ending bit maybe 3/4s of the way through where the perc kicks in until the end is when Coop/Lucy are behind the car, dogmeat runs, and then they run.

[sudden sand]

dont think theres been a single bad bit of music from this show thus far

[sleek anvil]

Episode 8 soon ahhhh

[glass rune]

how soon

[sleek anvil]

Like

18 hours

[wheat briar]

bruh I'll be at work

[sleek anvil]

It will be 2am my time gonna set an alarm lol

1 hour 15 long should be packed

[hazy chasm]

Who was that head that Lucy saw

[ashen sapphire]

courier 6

[hazy chasm]

Wtf

I can't wait to get back into the games after S2

[sleek anvil]

The congress woman we seen earlier

[wheat briar]

What if it was todds head but at the end of ep8 he says "Fallout Shelter 2 will have 68x the detail" Lucy will clap in applaus, Obsidian blows up and bethesda becomes our 1 true overlord. I think Max is gonna die

[sleek anvil]

That introduced coope to the president

[wheat briar]

I honestly think in and I know it's pretty dumb but I think Cooper is Enclave

[high laurel]

Watch while working

[wheat briar]

it'll be legit at the tail end of my shift so wont be able too. If it was releasing around lunch I actually would.

[sleek anvil]

I dont

He is just patriotic not realising enclave is behind it all

[merry jolt]

Ah, ah, ah, ah

[paper cradle]

Imma try to predict some stuff that’s going to be wrong because I’m not good at predictions (episode 8 season 2 predictions):

Maximus will kiss Lucy again

Coop is going to ~~ kiss House ~~ throw dog meat at someone. I don’t know I’m just being funny

I think Max’s and Coop’s relationship will advanced on but would have one massive change to it from Lucy and Coop’s relationship.

Coop is going to give up his real family by force.

Found family with Coop, Max and Lucy… ha ha ha 😈

[inner pollen]

mfs with broken/problematic families when the function show got found family

[paper cradle]

I love found family so much

[paper cradle]

TRUE things in the finale:

cooper is bi
bi
maximus loves lucy

[inner pollen]

-# they should've experimented with Lucy being bi but that's just my silly opinion 👀

[paper cradle]

Mostly everyone is bi let them straights have breathers /j

Anyways Maximus x Lucy is canon and they will date in the finale

Cooper being a father figure is real and he will adopt Lucy

If his wife dies there’s always a HOME he could go

Wink wink

[inner pollen]

NO WAIT
-# can't send it in actual meme format bc i'll be banished

2296 Nuclear Family:
Neurodivergent Son: Maximus
Girl Failure Daughter: Lucy
Bisexual Dad: Cooper
W0ke Dog: Dogmeat

[steady ridge]

Bros trying to push the cooper x house agenda rn

[paper cradle]

Shhh

You guys WILL ship Cooper x House ooooooohohohooooo

[steady ridge]

Lucy is a girl failure despite her best efforts

She tries so hard but man her luck stats MUST be below zero atp

Cannot pass a single speech check

[inner pollen]

no charisma 😔

[paper cradle]

This is why she and Maximus are made for each other

[inner pollen]

actually New Vegas compliant bc it's considered to be the most useless of the Special

[lavish stream]

🤦🏽‍♀️

[steady ridge]

Her and max oppose each other that way, max seems to somehow have the best luck out of everyone, meanwhile Lucy just gets in the unluckiest situations

[inner pollen]

she's both lucky and unlucky

girl going through it

[steady ridge]

This episode was great tbh, I really enjoyed max’s fight w the deathclaw and I’m looking forward to see how it goes. The PA was also cool, had a real makeshift look to it

[paper cradle]

Why are you so disappointed

[paper cradle]

Waiting for Cooper to place his lips on that screen if ya know what I mean (1 2 3 I want yaoi)

[steady ridge]

While we’ve never seen anything similar to the ranger PA before (to my knowledge of the lore) I honestly didn’t hate it. I’ve seen people call it fan service but I thought it was a cool blend of Maximus’ two lives merging and a hint to his future possibly

[inner pollen]

EXACTLY THAT

[steady ridge]

I LOVE nv, it was my intro to fallout and honestly I rlly like how the show is doing it.

Also crazy that house recognizes Coop post ghoulification. Not that crazy since I think that house took into account that eventually, cold fusion would make its way to him, especially at Coopers hands. The house always wins

But also crazy yk like

[inner pollen]

bc he'd recognise his husband anywhere

[paper cradle]

Beat me to it

[steady ridge]

Also possible that throughout the years House has kept an eye on cooper or deduced it was him after his reputation spread to the wasteland. He was offline for a couple years and then again recently, but it’s not insane to think that House probably knew of the ghoul

Especially since house keeps a close eye on Vegas, a place coop has been in, and also he seems like an “eyes everywhere” guy

[steady ridge]

Isn’t it romantic, he’s such a yearner

[paper cradle]

Too bad Cooper likes his wife but he DOES have two hands

[steady ridge]

But house doesn’t have hands so will he have to hold a securitrons hand

[paper cradle]

True…

[steady ridge]

Or is he gonna hold crusty houses hand

Matching looks!

[paper cradle]

The chat when I’m not around: lore

The chat when I’m around: Cooper x House is canon

[steady ridge]

Bro is committed to the agenda

The bisexual cooper and house agenda but still

I personally don’t ship it but it’s funny to talk and think abt tbh

[median tulip]

I ship Lucy and the super mutant

[paper cradle]

I personally don’t see it happening but then again

This

[candid rose]

it's canon

[steady ridge]

Beauty and the beast type shit

Speaking of, they need to address the super mutant at some point during the finale because it’s crazy they just introduced him so briefly, no name or anything

At LEAST in the last couple of minutes

[steady ridge]

This is like a situationship but like worse in a way

[paper cradle]

Crackshippers shiver under this guy

[paper cradle]

Marriage for tax reasons ahh relationship

[steady ridge]

Something else about this episode that really caught my attention was the congresswoman’s head. What is that abt

[steady ridge]

They’re both rich so they probably don’t pay taxes

[paper cradle]

Don’t rich people pay taxes but can use charities to pay less of it

[steady ridge]

Robert House would never pay taxes because he wouldn’t want the IRS to know his financial moves

[paper cradle]

They be donating to gay charities

[paper cradle]

I wouldn’t either tbh

[steady ridge]

I think Cooper and Barb would pay taxes, house wouldn’t but he’d fs make crazy donations

[steady ridge]

Tbh he’s probably so powerful he could probably get away with not paying taxes

[paper cradle]

“What do you mean you donated 1k to a bisexual cowboy charity 😭”

[steady ridge]

He sent Victor as his representative

[paper cradle]

And half of the 1K was given to Cooper under the charity or something

[steady ridge]

Do you think that he uploaded his consciousness into a computer and was able to be rebooted once cold fusion was attached or do you think the crusty old man in the chamber was his body double? It’s possible that the courier didn’t kill house in whatever ending is canon

[paper cradle]

I think he uploaded his consciousness to a computer lowkey but I’m not 100% sure

[heavy gorge]

She don't like bisexuals
She's too cringe

[steady ridge]

This episode has me very excited abt fallout, it’s like every week it reignites the interest

I fear I won’t survive Wednesday for the finale

[paper cradle]

Why doesn’t she like Cooper Howard

[heavy gorge]

It's today at 9PM though

[heavy gorge]

Idk
She's missing out big time if you ask me

[steady ridge]

Personally I think that courier either killed the double or didn’t kill house at all since it’s optional to do so, everything is possible

[steady ridge]

Omg I forgot abt the early release schedule thingy

[paper cradle]

Should I yap about ~~ Cooper x House ~~ Fallout to my therapist today

[steady ridge]

I should draw something for the show, I love Lucy so I might draw her in her yellow dress from this episode

Also saw the trailer for the next ep and Hank was holding a very tiny device, which is probably a mini mind control device. He MIGHT actually try to use it on her omg

[steady ridge]

Fuck it go for it

[paper cradle]

First fan art of the show was Norman, my second piece needs to feature either Lucy x Max or the ghoul

[steady ridge]

Lucy x max because there’s simply not enough of them out there

I want to draw Lucy since I don’t draw women often tbh

[paper cradle]

I cannot find artworks of it, only silly doodles

[paper cradle]

Same… I love men💔😢😔❌🏳️‍🌈

I need more women💔💔💔💔

[steady ridge]

Looking forward to them meeting again in the finale hopefully. Maybe they’re going to draw a parallel to him opening his PA to show her his face

I think we might get a little check in on what’s happening with the BoS as well, since it’s been a couple eps since the whole civil war thing started

[paper cradle]

Lucy needs to be a badass this was what her character development with The Ghoul was leading up to

Norman better be alive and running.

[steady ridge]

She’s already made the first step in actually killing someone. It wouldn’t surprise me if this experience with her dad and his obvious disdain for human life in favor of corporate success hardened her even further now

[steady ridge]

Bro might be taking a dip in FEV soon, but I doubt they have a readily available vat of it nearby

[paper cradle]

DONT HURT MY BABY💔😢🙏 (you can tell I love Norman like a son)

[steady ridge]

Hopefully he and the girl get out

[steady ridge]

He flew too close to the sun but he’s smart so he might be getting out of it

Hopefully

[paper cradle]

Knowledge is dangerous that’s why I’m only kinda smart

[wheat briar]

wait but.. what if max and.. thad kiss

[paper cradle]

I shipped Max x Lucy day 2 but like I thought of Max and Dane kissing for some reason

Anyways Max and Thad both would explode after kissing

[wheat briar]

s8 max kisses thad.. Lucy turns to the screens says I'm gay. Cooper smirks, Hank blushes. The courier yells "I feel a party coming on" everyone starts dancing. BOS arrive and say "we're not missing this for the world" the legion arrive "maybe slavery and misogny is bad" NCR turn up "taxes have increased by 50%.. for anyone not dancing" Lucy looks to the sunset.. "maybe.. we're the fallout.. in the wasteland 4.. releasing 6th of nov 2027"

Hollywood hire me

Oh and everyone is drinking coke because we have a brand deal

[small flicker]

okay

[paper cradle]

Season 3 will have The Ghoul flash backing to a time where him and House made out and he would be venting this to Lucy while she tried to figure out when the fuck did she ask him about that

[small flicker]

tiktok comment section humor

[wheat briar]

I really want a scene in EP8 where house says he has a husband

[paper cradle]

Look at my username

[wheat briar]

"unfortunately I couldn't save my husband..."

[paper cradle]

side eyes The ghoul

Either implies he is the husband or claiming Coop for his husband’s death

[wheat briar]

Coop: husband?
leaves due to jealousy

[paper cradle]

Maximus would just be there like the confused dog meme

[wheat briar]

I'm looking for my adopted chld and lavender wife House pls

[paper cradle]

House I need this please my adopted child who I abused kinda hates me

[wheat briar]

imagine your two dads are a ghoul and a AI

nothing more fallout than that

[paper cradle]

3 dads but we don’t talk about Hank

[wheat briar]

Mama Mia x Fallout

[paper cradle]

“Mama Mia” I thought of Mario

Lucy Maclean’s Super Mario speedrun record

Anyways episode 8 will feature a 20 hour gay scene between House and The Ghoul and the episode will be 21 hours long

[paper cradle]

See why no one is opposing this? Because it’s true

[wheat briar]

Someone on twitter would see this and believe it

Episode 8 is gonna be so anti climatic I can feel it

It feels like they're moslty building towards S3

[paper cradle]

Imagine I’m correct and it’s just House and The Ghoul talking

[small flicker]

early reviews are good

but there probably gonna be a few things unresolved of course yea

[paper cradle]

They be having the friendliest conversations ever meanwhile Maximus and Lucy are probably fighting for their lives

[wheat briar]

it's a podcast episode

[wheat briar]

yeah S1 only had 1 cliffhanger and that was Hank. I think this one is gonna have multiple like the vault dwellers, Lucy's brother, the brotherhood etc

[paper cradle]

It ends with silence for a few minutes and then the ghoul kisses him and the episode actually ends 🥹🙏

[wheat briar]

No fallout S3 but more fallout game shows

[paper cradle]

If they don’t include house I ain’t getting

[small flicker]

the super mutant one is the big one for me

[wheat briar]

yeah that one is def a season 3 plotline which sucks cause I want more mutant

[wheat briar]

tbh house hosting the games would be cool, I think the fallout gameshow will be fun but also might just be boring af

[paper cradle]

No.. let yourself cook..

[north wharf]

One day left before its over
And either we get more questions or more questions

[cobalt phoenix]

Comes out today my dude

They changed the release

[north wharf]

...
WHAT

[maiden sedge]

I’m not prepared for tn

[steady ridge]

9pm I think

[maiden sedge]

Also I am almost done replaying fo2 I played another 5 hours yesterday and now I’m at navaro so I only have like 3 hours of gameplay left and I get home by like 5:30

[north wharf]

Which timing

[maiden sedge]

So I may have to bum rush navaro

[north wharf]

like region specifcally

[maiden sedge]

That’s est

It’s 6pm pst

[north wharf]

that is 6 am for me...

i got shit to do in the morning

[small flicker]

commit

[maiden sedge]

A true fan watches it

[small flicker]

go to bed early

[north wharf]

well i wake up at 6 am so i might as well watch the show

[maiden sedge]

A true fan stays uo to watch it

Such as myself

[cobalt phoenix]

I misread

[north wharf]

in my case
i literally have to wake up at 6 am to watch it

[paper cradle]

Guys I have a theory

[north wharf]

lets hear it

[paper cradle]

What if Lucy’s arc in the third season is that she is becoming like Cooper and Cooper’s arc is he’s becoming more like Lucy ya know

Lucy has experienced a lot of shit mate

[north wharf]

Hmm
Lucy needs more drugs it seems like

[paper cradle]

“Stealing grandpa’s (Cooper’s) drugs!”

[north wharf]

This time
Its JET AND PYSCO

[sterile coral]

With a Med-X chaser.

[lone holly]

I also like the Enclave, one of rarely good crossover of American Nazi and malicious deep state flavors in alternative historical timelines

[wheat lodge]

Isn't it funny how Maximus's father basically failed a skill check and doomed Shady Sands?

[urban mantle]

I think it was just rigged by Hank to detonate regardless and that thing he cut was a fake out

[sudden sand]

It’s more likely he just didn’t know what he was doing.

[wheat lodge]

He didn't put enough points in traps and explosives

[sudden sand]

Remeber bombs irl don’t have ‘cut this wire to stop it exploding ‘ wires. That would be completely impractical for their whole purpose

[nimble anvil]

https://youtu.be/ZOudMTuu2p0?si=PB_1cRypWYHlpGa8

[upper shard]

Damn

[high laurel]

9am Wednesday

Shit gotta be so peak

[high laurel]

Mr.House is alive confirmed

[candid rose]

house was what

[median knot]

Correction, 9pm TODAY!!!!!

[silent scarab]

If anything this confirms he’s dead lol

[lusty ingot]

He didn't expect a failsafe

Idk why but I find live action house tvscreen funny

[nimble anvil]

God that whole fucking scene had me in tears.

"We were just getting started." 💔

[sudden sand]

I mean it’s Wednesday for me

3 am Wednesday. Whereas us gets it Tuesday

[median knot]

Oh really I didn’t know that

Crazy how time zones work

[wheat lodge]

9 hours guys

The only timezone is east coast US, everyone knows that

[visual echo]

I feel like Hank using the control chip on the NCR guy in episode 1 to blow up shady is a big plot hole

Like they showed us later on that Hank is only just now figuring out how to make the chips work, yet somehow 25 years ago he got one working

[icy turtle]

Did it work? It followed a singular command, and he died right after, just didn't have his head explode.

It worked long enough for that specific objective he wanted completed.

But Hank is wanting something on a larger scale.

[visual echo]

Yea so how'd he get it to work? We've seen that it blows up peoples heads every other time when he cranked the dial

[lusty ingot]

Lower the dial?

[icy turtle]

^ Lower the dial, but at the same time, the effect of cranking it too high is exploding heads, the effect of probably having it low was death, anyway.

The guy died regardless. If it worked, It'd be more like a case of the guy dropping it off, and running away - but he drops dead - repeating his command.

[paper cradle]

This scene got me😭

Why they having a starin contest🙏

[vivid ferry]

Power creep is fucking crazy. Extend to other planets? A fucking planet killing nuke?

[paper cradle]

“What about it, old friend?” Bro thinks Sunshine, Lollipops and Rainbows are gonna make The Ghoul less annoyed 😭🙏

[candid rose]

well we got 4 snowglobes in lucky 38 it seems

[still nest]

Does the clip confirm courier 6 killed house og body?

[visual echo]

Saw an interesting theory that the way Hank and Lucy's mom even knew about NCR n shady sands is because shady sands started tapping into the purified water supply the vaults use which tipped them off to there being a surface civilization

[still nest]

I doubt they did that

[candid rose]

it doesn't confirm it, but it kinda hints at it

[still nest]

They came from another vault themselves originally why would they steal from another

[visual echo]

I mean how else did Lucy's mom even know to run away to shady

[leaden furnace]

Isn’t that literally confirmed in S1?

[candid rose]

vault 15 is in ruins and NCR doesn't know where 13 is

[paper cradle]

Wasn’t their water implied to be (kinda) radioactive?

[leaden furnace]

I recall Moldaver explicitly stating that Lucy’s mom found out because of siphoned water

[visual echo]

Max's dad was implying there isn't enough of it to give out Willy nilly, they had to ration the water until he found another source

[still nest]

You got a point then

[visual echo]

Oh does she

[leaden furnace]

I’ll have to rewatch her speech but pretty sure

[paper cradle]

I don’t remember shit

There’s a lapse in my memory

[still nest]

How do y'all think this season ends?

I'm thinking either we get a scene of the Commonwealth or maybe enclave renants somewhere

[modern orbit]

ncr rolls in and mows down freesiders for sport

[leaden furnace]

Yeah watch this scene at 28:35

https://youtu.be/FYwDbSc_uys?si=_qcWzw13dhnuZnoy

[still nest]

I would like this

[leaden furnace]

She says her Mom found out someone was siphoning the water supply

[lilac dock]

thats a good catch

[still nest]

Oh your right

[paper cradle]

THEY POSTED FULL EPISODES AND I DIDNT KNOW!?!?