EPISODE 7

[atomic cedar]

Realistically if they fly straight to the Mojave/area 51 it would take about a week or so and I'm unsure if locals have anti air

[ashen sapphire]

the knights of san fernando had their airship destroyed and i don't see the grand canyon or yosemite faction being the main BOS either?

[digital walrus]

Question is what would the enclaves first move be

[icy turtle]

No, Xander's role was a liason, he liases between the Chapters. When Quintus didn't give cold fusion, Xander was sent to investigate. There's again, ZERO EVIDENCE showing the Commonwealth even knows what happened.

[ashen sapphire]

basically the west BOS as we've seen it this season, has been crippled from the civil war

[fickle field]

The enclave must not give a shit about getting cold fusion back holy

[urban mantle]

I doubt whatever expeditionary force they could get airborne would be sufficient on its own

[digital walrus]

Maybe they just really wanted the bos to kill itself

[atomic cedar]

They hire a single bounty hunter who didn't finish the job

[ashen sapphire]

either quintus somehow pulls it together, or the commonwealth is coming

[lusty ingot]

Xander never coming back will sound fishy

[limber egret]

Kidnapping the Vault 33 dwellers imo. Fallout 2 callback and Bud met with "The Investors" about Phase 2

[lusty ingot]

Or reporting in

[urban mantle]

There's more to wilzig than we know, that's for sure

[icy turtle]

You're correct, but still Quintus is a loose end left by Maximus to clean up narratively. Killing his former Father figure. The East is not going to show up in the finale. I'm like 95% sure of it.

[ember lintel]

Wilzig is the courier

[fickle field]

Wilzig was aware of what the vaults purpose was

[atomic cedar]

They absolutely are prepared to fight the west coast that's what they were arguing about

Xander is the peaceful option and now he's dead

[digital walrus]

I still think it will be landing at area 51 to put down the brotherhoods last hold outs

[icy turtle]

Yes, after a few days, but it's only been a few days. People act like it's been months.

[icy turtle]

They're not aware he's dead yet, again, point to me evidence that shows the Commonwealth is aware. It's only been 2 days dude. Lol

[limber egret]

They're gonna use the mind control chips and FEV to create an army of Frank Horrigans from the Vault Dwellers

[ashen sapphire]

but will he really be able to pull the crippled chapters together to be an actual threatening force?

[digital walrus]

We seems to have been placed in vault tec

[fickle field]

In my experience if the government invests hundreds of billions of dollars into a company then that company is going to be government ran lol

[lusty ingot]

Only peaceful way is to give cold fusion which was never gonna happen

[lost cosmos]

Exactly. He's a Force Ghost.

[urban mantle]

It could go other way, the Commonwealth could sweep in or it could be preoccupied and unable to muster an expedition that quickly

[atomic cedar]

House has cold fusion which means BoS will probably war with him

[icy turtle]

Who knows? Quintus is smarter than I gave him credit for, so it's possible.

[timber oyster]

just wanna confirm that the president at the end of the episode IS president dick richardson right?

[atomic cedar]

No

[digital walrus]

What if there is second wilzig clone style

[urban mantle]

Of course not

[ashen sapphire]

nope, he was born on the rig

[urban mantle]

How old do you think Dick Richardson is

[digital walrus]

No not till said otherwise

[timber oyster]

i dont know much about the events or anything that happened around fallout 2

[limber egret]

I think shutting down House is going to be the final challenge, Cooper will be tempted with House withholding knowledge about his family unless he betrays Max and Lucy

[lusty ingot]

That whould make Richardson 100+ years old

[urban mantle]

Fallout 2 is like a century after the war isn't it

[ashen sapphire]

dick is likely the descendant of the last POTUS

[digital walrus]

Rick richardson

[lusty ingot]

House dosent know about lucy or max

[ashen sapphire]

because mr krabs name is supposed to begin with di as well

[urban mantle]

Richard dickson, father of dick Richardson

[atomic cedar]

FO2 is like 150-170 years after the bombs iirc

Maybe a bit less

[digital walrus]

Call him dick for short

[lusty ingot]

Dick jr

[ashen sapphire]

dick senior

[limber egret]

Max and Lucy will want the cold fusion back, that means "killing" House. House will tempt Cooper to side with him by saying he knows about his family (who won't be in the cryo pods)

[timber oyster]

fallout 2 takes place in 2241

[digital walrus]

Big dick and little dick

[urban mantle]

Out of curiosity what would Lucy even do with it

[lusty ingot]

His family are in the pods tho

[limber egret]

Give it to the people

[atomic cedar]

Accidentally give it to the enclave

[urban mantle]

Use it to purify all of California's water

[lusty ingot]

Give it to the enclave

[ashen sapphire]

i don't see house's forces beating the legion next episode

[icy turtle]

Doubtful, all the money and work Bethesda put in to bringing him back - he's probably going to be a consistent player in Wasteland affairs going forward.

[fickle field]

House still doesn’t have the platinum chip

[limber egret]

I'm guessing House knows how to access the Vault Tec Facility

[ashen sapphire]

that would leave the strip in houses control, but we're leaving vegas next season presumably, and i doubt fo5 is gonna come back to vegas

[urban mantle]

No he does

[icy turtle]

He does. the Securitrons are upgraded.

[lusty ingot]

He does

[icy turtle]

It will have ties to Vegas, for sure, but yeah we're moving locations. Further West. Everything points to things staying in the West and Western developments unfolding.

[ember lintel]

chicken fucker might have to step in

[paper junco]

Thad might have to hurry up and finish his transformation to save the strip and then be shunned as a monster

[ashen sapphire]

i think an NCR comeback and victory at the strip is the most interesting and best narrative choice for FO5/later seasons

[lusty ingot]

The legion is not gonna win

[urban mantle]

Gonna transform into a tree stump at this rate

[urban mantle]

Republic of house

[digital walrus]

Bob says high

[limber egret]

So what we think happening to Chet next episode. I feel mixed on what we're supposed to think considering what they revealed of Steph's backstory

[fickle field]

But the master was in FEV for an extremely long time

There’s no way he got an equal dose by just inhaling it

[lusty ingot]

Chet gets promoted to overseer

[tropic parcel]

I hope Chet survives

[ember lintel]

I really hope he dies

[paper junco]

does / exposures to various things have never really been consistent across any of the FO things as to 'what level of x causes y', plus x and y are always different

[tropic parcel]

He's an underrated side character

[lusty ingot]

I hope steph dies

[urban mantle]

I hope they can unify some of the plotlines because it's getting a bit chaotic

[ashen sapphire]

steph finds nothing in hanks lunchbox and then davey becomes overseer

[lusty ingot]

Well last time vault 32 found the truth they all killed each other

Hopefully this goes better

[paper junco]

steph finds Davey in Hank's box, wasn't her, it was Chet all along who killed him

[urban mantle]

I think bud was involved there

[tropic parcel]

It's interesting how it feels like we're getting to witness the decline of 2 vaults in real-time, compared to the aftermath of them that we usually see in the games

[fickle field]

Why did they kill themselves instead of trying to leave

[ashen sapphire]

you mean woody?

[limber egret]

Chet the largest Vault Dweller eats the others

[digital walrus]

Killer of canadians

[paper junco]

Yes, forgot who was who lol

[urban mantle]

Some of them died trying to get into 31
Most likely vaults 32 and 33 are heavily armed for the purposes of sanitization

[high laurel]

So it turns out that he got a healing factor

[urban mantle]

HUH

[paper junco]

But honestly I'm a bit worried that Steph is going to fully fuck over everyone else who's still in that group of vaults. I don't think she'll end up dying...I think the other dwellers may die / be forcibly transformed

[digital walrus]

Plus i think there is a fail safe in vault 31

[lusty ingot]

She'd died aswell

[paper junco]

anti smoking PSA

[ember lintel]

holy shit thaddeus actor is 44

[digital walrus]

I feel bud could auto kill the vaults if needed

[lusty ingot]

Bud is dead

[paper junco]

not necessarily, we don't know yet how/what exactly she might do, especially now given her additional ties to Hank and pre-Vault Tec plans

[peak sphinx]

New anti-smoking ad

[digital walrus]

When 32 rebelled

[deft wasp]

i want to see him become way bigger he deserves it

[limber egret]

My only bet would be an FEV vaccine. Maybe they'll bring back the Overseer's Office Desk having a passage under it so she can escape

[paper junco]

hm I swear someone else just made that joke

[deft wasp]

i think steph has fev in her box

[lusty ingot]

Crazy what cgi deaging can do

[digital walrus]

Sigh why would hank have fev

[high laurel]

Probably a rope

[fickle field]

Bro should’ve became an assaultron

[deft wasp]

mayeb he had a strand of it I DONT KNOW

[peak sphinx]

Crazy right?

[digital walrus]

Exactly its a weak argument

[urban mantle]

The box is gonna contain a ham sandwich wrapped in asbestos

[lusty ingot]

Ite box has pictures of scouts mom from tf2

[peak sphinx]

*pictures of Fisto

[digital walrus]

The fisto disk

[peak sphinx]

The Fisto Files

[lusty ingot]

What if hank kidnaped the chicken guy because he was jealous

[ashen sapphire]

because its the next phase of the vault experiment

[digital walrus]

Hanks not the most senior buds bud

[ember lintel]

i hope next season has some tribals

[limber egret]

They all but said directly that Hank got her the job at Vault-Tec. Implies they were close. Maybe she used him being knocked out for an opportunity for a meet-cute

[paper junco]

Yeah, what Norm is discovering re: FEV is absolutely tied to his vaults. That being what's in Hank's box would absolutely have been hinted at .
I don't know if thatis what it will be, the whole "what's in the box" is clearly an intentional question being built up, but that's absolutely one very good option

[lusty ingot]

Wasn't the masters vault filled with fev

[urban mantle]

Uh... Sort of

[digital walrus]

She straight up seduced him

[lusty ingot]

Hank likes Canadian women

[ashen sapphire]

norm asks hank whats gonna happen to the vaults, so hes clearly connected to it

[digital walrus]

I guess but also norms pip boy is connected to hank and lucy so asking hank makes sense as dad and a 31 resident does not mean he was the most important just the one norm felt he could contact

[heady inlet]

it would be fun to see the ncr get revived

[limber egret]

I think Hank was a fed, he was supposed to get rid of the cold fusion if Cooper didn't play his part

[sudden sand]

im glad this episode puts to rest the blind deathclaw theorys

[digital walrus]

Oh hank being the enclaves guy to steal the cold fusion back seems very enclave

[peak sphinx]

Hank Enclave

[ashen sapphire]

hank has some sort of importance over the other buds, do all the buds have the ability to launch nukes?

[fickle field]

Hank is a day one with Bud

[limber egret]

I think they didn't want to directly play their hand, less they reveal themselves to House. So they used Cooper to stop House from getting cold fusion.

[paper junco]

Hank / Enclave / Cold Fusion / FEV / Vault-Tec are all intentionally being muddily intertwined as time goes on

[ashen sapphire]

why doesn't betty know about the FEV experiment?

[deft wasp]

fuicking hate ai

[silent scarab]

@icy turtle Starting to have doubts but still makes no sense

[digital walrus]

Coops an odd choice since it hinges on so many random factors

Like coop even learning about it

[deft wasp]

i think the enclave and vault tec are just intertwined

[icy turtle]

The way it's worded is SUPER weird.

[silent scarab]

Vault tec is semi autonomous

[deft wasp]

vault-tec has always been tied up in the secret US government operations

[digital walrus]

Yes and no since vault tec works again and again against the enclaves interests

[paper junco]

what does AI have to do with anything lol

[silent scarab]

Vault tec is a rabid animal with a collar. The enclave is controlling them but not totally

[deft wasp]

the article is made with ai

[digital walrus]

One of their board members openly doing his own thing

[limber egret]

Moldaver is Enclave, she manipulates Charlie, Cooper's friend to make him suspicious of Barb. Moldaver gets him to overhear Barb saying they'll drop the bombs. Moldaver then manipulates him further with Vault-Tec selling Cold Fusion to House

[digital walrus]

So far i doubt

[sudden sand]

lord moldaver

[paper junco]

unlikely, and what makes you think that? This is how a writer writes lol and this is for a big Entertainment Weekly article. The writer has worked for them for 12 years, no reason to think AI

[limber egret]

Either Cooper assassinates House, or prevents him from getting cold fusion some other way if he gets cold feet

[digital walrus]

Also vault 76 works against the enclaves interests

[limber egret]

If Cooper decided not to do it all they use Hank to prevent House from getting cold fusion

[sudden sand]

what does vault 76 have to do with it

[silent scarab]

Then why did she have the scientist escape with cold fusion

[paper junco]

also ran it through multiple AI text detectors (not entirely reliable) and 3 said 0% AI.
I also fucking hate AI, but a proper writer writing an article doesn't indicate AI. She's what AI is trained on lol

[deft wasp]

sentence structure is just off in the middle. always makes me sus of ai

[digital walrus]

Ways vault tec acts against the enclaves interests

[limber egret]

Moldaver could have been an unwilling pawn, 200 years later she was free

[silent scarab]

The middle is a quote

[paper junco]

it's bouncing back and forther between editorializing and an interview. The middle is all made up of quotes, so structure will be a bit weird

[deft wasp]

fair

[sudden sand]

you know the enclave bunker in 76 is like, couping

right

theyre the ones not goign with the enclaves plan in that case lol

[deft wasp]

yeah i dont think the vaulters can be counted

vault-tec's actions pre war definitely lead to them being tied to the enclave. which is jsut the us government, so that makes sense

[sudden sand]

if i were to hazard a guess they have a third eylid like some lizards have to protect their eyes. and not milkuy white eyes

[digital walrus]

Vault 76 has orders to hold the nukes even from the government/military

A couple other vaults have orders that seem to basically be answer to vault tec only no one else

[fresh drum]

It just hit me

Mr krabs is the leader of the fucking enclave.

[wheat lodge]

Why are people shitting on the deathclaw fight from the last episode?

[fresh drum]

They are?! That was badass

[wheat lodge]

People say that maximus didn't sustain enough damage

[fresh drum]

He fully charged and swung a sharp ass blade at its neck while it wasn’t moving

Not to mention that he’s in a suit of power armour that makes him probably twice as strong

[wheat lodge]

Have they not played Fallout 1 & 2? Like in those games if you have a Power armor Deathclaws basically only deal damage to you with critical attacks because of how tanky the power armors are

[digital walrus]

He likes money after all

[fresh drum]

If I had a dollar for every time Clancy brown was in something I’d be a fucking millionaire

[wheat lodge]

People are basically taking Fallout 3 and onwards deathclaw as examples, but these Deathclaws aren't what the show is basing their design upon. We can literally see by their strength that they are like in Fallout 1 and 2, tanky big animals

[fresh drum]

Even if they are durable, swinging a sharp ass blade at its neck while you have a giant ass power suit on and the creature isn’t moving it’s gonna slice its head like butter

[wheat lodge]

Exactly, that was basically a critical attack from Fallout 1 and 2

People really do be finding the stupidest reasons to hate the show

And those people say they are Fallout fans, but only have played to the 3D games. You are not a Fallout fan if you haven't at least tried Fallout 1 & 2, and I will go down with that statement

[fresh drum]

Next episode I wanna see chicken fucker get his memory back and have an interaction with the ghoul

[fresh drum]

I don’t believe that, but it’s all personal opinions. I just don’t believe it because those games are hard to find

[tall idol]

OH MY GOD
MAXIMUS IS SO BADASS IN THAT POWER ARMOR

[sudden sand]

4 times easily

[raven holly]

Because they have no life. They pick at straws, find anything to complain about

Especially on X

[lusty ingot]

I remmber it all delivering the platinum chip

[wheat lodge]

They truly aren't tho. Easily accessible on PC

Amy PC can run them also

[fresh drum]

Exactly, one console.

[wheat lodge]

I have never heard of any family without at least 1 pc

[fresh drum]

Even if someone did own one they’d have to go through all the faff of figuring out the keys, borrowing it etc

[visual echo]

Did you not watch the show or something, literally all the main characters had growth

[real scroll]

Don't bother with them dude

[wheat lodge]

Borrowing a game that cost 2.5$?

[fresh drum]

The laptop

[wheat lodge]

And you can figure out the key pretty easily, just press F1

[wheat lodge]

Borrowing a laptop? Why?

[median tulip]

yeah man don't interact with people who hold different views

[wheat lodge]

You can literally play Fallout 1 & 2 on a shitty family computer

[fresh drum]

usually if someone owns a laptop they intent to use it

So you’d have to set a schedule or some bs

[wheat lodge]

Uhm. Ok

They should at least watch a walkthrough on YouTube if they somehow can't access the game

[visual echo]

I'll interact I just wanna know why you think only norm grew

[lusty ingot]

Lucy whouldnt have killed the shopkeeper if she was in s1

[median tulip]

I think he grew at a better pace than any of the other characters. He makes the most sense. I wasn't intending to ignore any other character development... it's just less believable or major

[wheat lodge]

Norm really didn't have any character development in my opinion, he was always sceptical about everything about the vault program

[visual echo]

To be fair she wasn't trying to kill him

[lusty ingot]

She whouldent have shoot him either

[visual echo]

Oh I get ya

[ashen sapphire]

yeah I agree, he went from being a smart guy in a vault to being a smart guy on the surface

[lusty ingot]

Norm was a coward and he might turn into a raider overlord

[visual echo]

Well no, he was a coward and lazy in s1, in S2 he's found his courage and is now proactively searching for the truth

[wheat lodge]

Basically. He was always a smart guy. The only thing he did was fuck up the vault program by releasing everyone and getting to the surface

[visual echo]

I mean his intelligence doesn't have to be apart of his growth

[wheat lodge]

He wasn't a coward tho. He literally had a lot more character development in the first season

[lusty ingot]

Youre a coward norm. We all are chet that's why we live in vaults

[wheat lodge]

Chet is a bitch tho

Stupid snitch

[lusty ingot]

Chet was doing his amcerian duty

[wheat lodge]

I gotta stand up for my fellow Canadians

[visual echo]

He literally hides under a table in ep1

[wheat lodge]

Yes, but after that starts fighting against the authority of the vault. Chet was way more a coward than him in the first season

[vivid ferry]

Prepare to be sent to an internment camp, mountie.

[wheat lodge]

Ok, Yankee

[visual echo]

Hoser

[visual echo]

(I'm Canadian I can say that)

[sudden sand]

nuh uh

[visual echo]

Still find it funny someone genuinely hates Canada more now cuz they saw them suffering in the show

[wheat lodge]

Burger eater

[sudden sand]

no hes canadian thats a america insult

[wheat lodge]

(I am from Québec)

[visual echo]

Gross

Americans, annex Quebec first

[vivid ferry]

Say that to my face again, mf.

[sudden sand]

ok nate the rake

[wheat lodge]

No, they will take Alberta first for the oil if they ever annex us

[visual echo]

Not slim, but shady

[wheat lodge]

(I speak French irl)

[visual echo]

Probably

[vivid ferry]

I'm not white or American

[visual echo]

Well first it would be BC probably so they get the oil pipelines built that our government keeps blocking

[visual echo]

Quebecois French

Wouldn't be able to communicate well with Parisian Frenchie

[wheat lodge]

I mean, BC is like the Cali of Canada

[vivid ferry]

Putang ina mo

[visual echo]

I speak Acadian french

[vivid ferry]

I can't tell if you're being satiracal, stupid, or racist

[wheat lodge]

Oh, really? Nova Scotia? Prince Édouard Island? New Brunswick?

[visual echo]

NS

[wheat lodge]

Nice

[visual echo]

All our French immersion teachers were Acadian french speakers so that's what they taught us

[vivid ferry]

Nah, it's just the first time I've seen someone call me "Indonesian"

[wheat lodge]

Well, all Acadians moved there when the English invaded us back in the days

[visual echo]

Yea but didn't they get resettled in Louisiana

[wheat lodge]

A certain part, yes, but not all of them

[vivid ferry]

Yep

Malays, Filipinos, and Indonesians look and sound the same

[wheat lodge]

And Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans are the same too?

[paper junco]

Ah so we're just going to actual racism here now, nice. Something something average Fallout fan, I suppose

[vivid ferry]

Bro, I'm Filipino

[wheat lodge]

So you get a racism pass?

[visual echo]

Not everything is racism lmao

[vivid ferry]

No, but it's a fucking joke lmao

[wheat lodge]

(I know)

[nimble anvil]

What is this chat becoming?

[wheat lodge]

Anti BoS chat

[vivid ferry]

Changing the topics before this gets out of hand, what are our theories on how this horde of Legion will be stopped?

[paper junco]

this is very far away from being notably relevant to S2E7 of the Fallout TV show, joking intention or not. Also, any racism leaning jokes are bad ides on the internet lol

[nimble anvil]

Charisma check

[paper junco]

a horde of NCR, probably

If not that, honestly not sure. Freeside isn't about to stand up and defend themselves well.

[wheat lodge]

I hate all BoS members btw

Except Maximus

[paper junco]

considering he's basically left the BoS, that tracks lol

[fresh drum]

I only like danse and max

[wheat lodge]

I am not talking to a BoS member (this is a joke)

[paper junco]

I am not talking to an Enclave member (this is a joke)

[wheat lodge]

🤝🤝🤝

[frigid summit]

seeing the enclave was cool and cooked at the same time

[visual echo]

What's that from

[paper junco]

That's from the E8 trailer

[median spindle]

jesus fucking christ they had internment camps in canada??

[frigid summit]

they had them in the US too

[median spindle]

yeah but for chinese civilians

[visual echo]

Not all, anyone they deemed a communist

Protestors too

Protestors got sent to big Mt

[median spindle]

fallout stop teasing me with the patriotic american music and release them already

[frigid summit]

yeah prewar america was fucked

[paper junco]

yeah that's not something we'd *ever *do in real life, thankfully

[visual echo]

Japan

[real scroll]

Either House brings up his Securitrons or that NCR ranger from before comes with backup

[visual echo]

Both

[leaden furnace]

Yeah probably both

[visual echo]

House loves NCR they're his greatest customers

[leaden furnace]

I think House will help initially but it won’t be enough, and then the NCR shows up

[visual echo]

Maybe

[leaden furnace]

Because 4 dudes aren’t fighting off the Legion lol

[visual echo]

I think house is going to secure the strip before legion ever arrives

He'll wipe out the deathclaws

[sterile coral]

And honestly, the NCR does benefit by having House around; his knowledge and technology could be of great use when it comes time to stomp on the Enclave again.

[visual echo]

Either using securitrons or some laser guard towers

[real scroll]

So basically Maculey Culkin comes in and has to get through a bunch of traps by a House......its Home Alone

[visual echo]

Lmao

[leaden furnace]

Next episode will be pretty action packed, between the deathclaw and legion fights

[visual echo]

What is Lucy gonna do with that head

Pull the tubes out and helmet off?

[lusty ingot]

Smash it

[real scroll]

Get the Wilzig Head and make them kiss

[visual echo]

I wonder if the lady will regain consciousness for a second before finally dying

[wheat lodge]

You forgot that pre-war America was run by the Enclave basically. So they were just a bunch of Facists

[frigid summit]

so was that lady deceived by the enclave or was she being a false flag

[sterile coral]

And say something like 'Thank you'.

[wheat lodge]

Kiss it

[median spindle]

AHHH A CANADIAN BANG BANG BANG💥 💥 💥 💥 💥

[visual echo]

Yes that is a good idea

Doesn't the German town police station have a police report about pulling some drunk drivers over and they had Canadian flags in the trunk

[wheat lodge]

If you hunt down my people, I will hunt you down

[median spindle]

this eres AMERICAN SOIL, for AMERICAN PEOPLE

[sterile coral]

And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg if the nukes didn't fly; imagine those internment camps clogged with God knows how many Chinese, at least whoever didn't get shipped off to Big MT or other research facilities for experimentation.

[wheat lodge]

Canada is Canadian soil, for Canadian people

[visual echo]

Yea our BLOOD IS RED WHITE AND RED

[median spindle]

nauh we turned it into AMERICAN SOIL for AMERICAN PEOPLE

[glass rune]

so maximus will remake the ncr mojave and turn new vegas into the new capital city

[leaden furnace]

Casinos, the basis for the Nu-NCR’s economy

[glass rune]

since he cant ever return to the bos

[visual echo]

Yea I'm guessing that's the end game for the whole show

[sterile coral]

With House as its first neo-Brahmin baron.

[sterile coral]

Bro ain't Aradesh, let's be real.

[wheat lodge]

And we lick the maple syrup straight out of the TREE

[leaden furnace]

👎

[nimble anvil]

I think Maximus is on the chopping block.

Out of the three main characters, he's the first one to go

[visual echo]

What the actual fuck is the ping for security here

[glass rune]

a war is coming (season 3) but what are the mutants preparing for?

[wheat lodge]

?

[sterile coral]

Throwing hands with the Enclave, perhaps?

[visual echo]

Like typing in mods or security doesn't show shit all when trying to @ them

[median spindle]

why is the abandoned ncr place the gang loots not, looted?

[visual echo]

I wanna get rid of the pedophile meme

[real scroll]

I really wish I didnt read that

[median spindle]

i love how thaddeus is just ruining cooper's vibe

[wheat lodge]

Nah, the three main characters are basically the 3 protagonists. Thaddeus and Dogmeat are companions

[visual echo]

Like what the fuck is the god damn ping for security

[sterile coral]

The Enclave getting jumped by their opps, victims or descendants of their victims would be narratively fitting, from the NCR, Brotherhood, neo-Unity, the Shi, etc.

[real scroll]

Go to general or something and tell them

[glass rune]

its such a obvious looting spot people probally avoided it to not die

[median spindle]

yes thaddeus, my problematic king, keep being my good time boy

[wheat lodge]

He will probably becoming a new kind of Centaur

[visual echo]

I hope not he doesn't deserve that

[median spindle]

that would be pretty cringe

[real scroll]

He's gonna become an Ood from Doctor Who

[lusty ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-gun-gif-7523660087347371224

[glass rune]

so the enclave is it still fully operational or is it in a limited capacity?

[wheat lodge]

Gotta give y'all nightmares now

[nimble anvil]

Math! Scary!

[visual echo]

It burns!

[sterile coral]

Unclear; considering they've yet to make any public moves implies they've decided on a more.... secretive behind the scenes approach, or at least that they can't openly throw hands until certain criteria is reached.

[wheat lodge]

I used to like math, but now I don't like it anymore

[glass rune]

yeah I think after 3 they needed to retreat to the shadows and not let some charasmatic idiot do a full on invasion/war

[median spindle]

vruh not the fo4 motif at the ranger power armor unveiling

just hammering in the fact that fo4 is the power armor game out of the franchise

[glass rune]

like you know you fucked up when your own leader the us president turns on you

[paper junco]

that's just the overall Fallout theme at this point, not FO4. The versions we hear in the show are def the most closely related to the way it's written in FO4 though

[wheat lodge]

What makes you think he turned on her? Maybe she willingly sacrificed herself. Anyway Hank probably is the one who killed her

[sterile coral]

Heck, I'm not 100% convinced they didn't plan on Wilzig escaping with the cold fusion; fella escaped way too easily from their base back in S1.

[glass rune]

what the fuck does hank have to do with the enclave and the us president going rogue

[sterile coral]

That cold fusion's already caused plenty of inter-faction squabbles and infighting, something that the Enclave could very easily make use of to re-emerge.

[visual echo]

US president is the literal head of the enclave

Disappeared months before the nukes dropped, to the oil rig

[fresh drum]

Ok what’s yalls predictions on what Thaddeus is becoming centaur seems likely but doesn’t make sense

[wheat lodge]

She cannot have died before the war because of the decomposition rate at normal pression, temperature and air

[fresh drum]

No he’s actually mr krabs head of the enclave

[visual echo]

A new thing, like the master

[glass rune]

doesnt have enough dna while slowly mutating she a centuar

[fresh drum]

That’s what I’m thinking completely original

[visual echo]

Centaurs are a mix of like 5 creatures

[wheat lodge]

Probably a centaur like creature without being one

[sudden sand]

They’re a mix of at least 2 creatures

[paper junco]

centaur seems to be the most closely linked thing we know of that he's becoming...but I think he's likely going to be something new entirely that we haven't seen. Something akin to master or harold

[wheat lodge]

Depends of the game tho.

[visual echo]

I also don't think he's permanently one armed, I think he's going to grow a tentacle there now

[sterile coral]

Meanwhile Stephanie looks like she's about to go full Nero Decree on the Tri-Vault.

[fresh drum]

although a live action centaur would be genuinely fucking terrifying

[glass rune]

she what the fuck are you on shes a reprenstive of the us not the leader of the enclave

[visual echo]

Who is the she u speak of

[fresh drum]

Imagine they go to find Thaddeus after the death claw battle and they think he’s inside so they open the door and he screeches at em

[visual echo]

The Congress woman?

[glass rune]

John Henry Eden is the leader of the enclave

[real scroll]

Probably gonna happen

[paper junco]

I doubt we'll see what Thad becomes in this season, I think his real transformation will happen next season. Though I'd like to see it this next ep lol

[visual echo]

Holy shit guys wait, the Congress woman was in cryo, Hank took her out and turned her into the processor

[wheat lodge]

I know, but she cannot have died pre war for her head to be that much intact

[glass rune]

Diane Welch is the head in the jar

[wheat lodge]

There is no jar

[glass rune]

YOU MAKE ZERO FUCKING SENSE JESUS

[fresh drum]

I believe that was houses doing he’s not smart enough to do that

[real scroll]

Also like anyone else find it weird that Thaddeus also headed to Vegas and stayed at the Sarsparilla factory like weird how he was also there

[fresh drum]

Cryo

[glass rune]

I was talking about how John Henry Eden betrayed the enclave you are rambling on like a fucking lunatic about a unrelated topic

[visual echo]

Hank is really smart, he's not house smart but still

If Hank had schematics to follow he could easily make the head processor

[wheat lodge]

Cryo still has a high fail rate

[paper junco]

Well hank was the one who got the mind control thing up and running in this particular Vault tec vault. I think it would have exactly been him. Why would her head have been sitting there - connected, but not doing anything - until Hank showed up?

[median spindle]

🙌 thaddeus my goat just keeps ruining the vibe

[glass rune]

this makes 0 sense stop being fucking stupid

[wheat lodge]

Please, stay respectful

[real scroll]

Remember he kept eyeing the chips back when they were presented

[fresh drum]

Vault 111 would of been successful if the institute didn’t fuck it up

[median spindle]

he's such a wet cat

[visual echo]

Yea exactly he was obsessed with Houses tech

[real scroll]

Yeah the asyphixiation was by Institute Sabotage

[glass rune]

hank gives me the hes not a great inventor but he is a great follower of instructions

[wheat lodge]

Oh, yea

[visual echo]

Yea that

[real scroll]

They really shouldnt have but y'know hard to expect logic from a group of scientists

[wheat lodge]

Hank is basically a puppet of the Enclave

[fresh drum]

Vault 111 would’ve probably been successful in cryo meaning vault tec can successfully make cryo so that’s probably how her head is preserved

[real scroll]

111 wasnt probably sucessful it was sucessful

[nimble anvil]

There was already a mutiny in Vault 111.

I believe they killed each other before Kellogg even got there

[real scroll]

Well yeah but who cares about those guys they're losers

[glass rune]

wasnt it a failure because it was only meant to be on for 100 years?

[real scroll]

No it was supposed to be indefinite

[fresh drum]

Although only supplied with too little food so they vault residents who weren’t in cryo are forced to fight/take drastic measures

[glass rune]

the test was for the people to wake up from cryo 100 years later

[nimble anvil]

They were waiting for an all-clear signal from Vault Tec that never came

[glass rune]

that was meant for the vault time

in the terminal they killed each other starving waiting for the all clear

[nimble anvil]

ANYWAY we should probably get back on topic

[median spindle]

does norm get his ass whupped again

[real scroll]

Anyone else got any ideas

[glass rune]

the show likes to pat itself on the back when the ncr is mentioned

[median spindle]

by fucking NERDS of all things

[visual echo]

Did you know you can find messages in the overseers terminal about him denying the enclave access to V101

[real scroll]

Everyone else had a specific reason to be in the area

[nimble anvil]

They taking him to Brazil

[fresh drum]

The guys 3ft tall you can’t blame him

[real scroll]

Yeah nice foreshadowing

One of Alphonse's few good ideas

[visual echo]

Is that the overseers name

[median spindle]

yes I will, his opps are like one admittedly chopped dude, and then 4 or 7 other dweebs

[real scroll]

Yeah

[fresh drum]

He’s also severely outnumbered and outheighted

[olive silo]

We won't go quietly, the legion can count on that

[median spindle]

outheighted vro the other guys aren't that far off

[visual echo]

I think norm is going to have a really dumb way of getting out of dying by the vault 31ers

[real scroll]

The roach farm?

[visual echo]

He'll probably say something like "well if impersonating management is punishable by death then what's the consequences for killing a vault tec executives son?"

[fresh drum]

Look at him next to chet

[real scroll]

Norm vs 30 college freshmen

[visual echo]

Ronnie n them are by the book type of idiots that will follow rules

[median spindle]

ok you're comparing him to CHET

[peak sphinx]

Small frame ahh build

[fickle field]

Half of the scenes of Norm in season 1 literally have his head just barely poking out

[visual echo]

Chad

[median spindle]

chet is even more chopped than the vault tec guy

[fresh drum]

Dudes average height

[nimble anvil]

Pint-Sized Vault Dweller

[median spindle]

out here like 6'0 is average height

[fickle field]

Half Dweller

[fresh drum]

They’d throw him like a ball

[fickle field]

Honestly, not be a dick, but it must be really hard being a 5’1 guy

[peak sphinx]

He's almost as short as Todd Howard

[fresh drum]

Maybe he gets thrown to vegas and that’s how they find him

[fickle field]

No he isnt

[glass rune]

steph just had to keep pushing the unhappy married life to a guy who didnt love her or her kid

[median spindle]

the bit aside, it does suck that steph is having whatever she's planning ruined rn, like vro survived getting across to america all for this

[nimble anvil]

He can barely read the terminals

[sudden sand]

The minigun turret was laughably bad at its one job

[glass rune]

now everyone knows shes a disgusting canadian

[peak sphinx]

Unbelievable

[fickle field]

I rewatched season 1 and literally half of the scenes that Norm is in you can only see his head

[visual echo]

Damn Chet is only 5'9"

[glass rune]

she got greedy and kept pushing

[real scroll]

Nah man she's gonna do some serious shit after

[visual echo]

It makes you wonder what her goal even is tho, is it just to torture and harm Americans?

Like payback for her mom and Canada

[median spindle]

pretty cool that cooper is the one in the backseat for this

[visual echo]

Tbf she doesn't love him or her kid either

[glass rune]

ngl I feel bad for lucys brother

[visual echo]

I do think it is actually a personal belonging in Hanks keepsake that Steph wants, cuz otherwise how would she know what's in it

[glass rune]

hes being outranked by someones lunch run bitch

[visual echo]

If he was smart he would have told them who his dad is

Like they'd instantly make him the leader

[paper junco]

Why would she care about a personal belonging though? It's part of whatever the plan was for the vaults, which is why Hank had it / had access to it.

[median spindle]

YES GOAT DID IT, LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/celebrating-seong-gi-hun-number-456-hwang-in-ho-kim-jun-hui-gif-5818024023395401575

[visual echo]

Are you only just watching the episode now

[median spindle]

yeuh

[visual echo]

Oh hah

[frosty wren]

is the musical number goated or what.

raphael is so goated.

[median spindle]

ep 8 gonna be canada?

[nimble anvil]

I love how the floor is covered with papers and books.

Says a lot about the combat skills of a brain dead mailman

[fresh drum]

How did Thaddeus not notice his arm slowly falling off

[median spindle]

idk it looked like it fell off pretty fast

[fresh drum]

It looked like it had slowly died around the joint even then didn’t even feel a slightly bit numb?

[nimble anvil]

It literally just popped off like a Mr. Potato Head

[paper junco]

He also got shot in the neck last season and was weirded out, not screaming in pain. Bro has very little feeling, it seems

[frosty wren]

he doesn't even seem bothered by the mouth on his shoulder so probably not.

[paper junco]

I wonder if he feeds it little snacks. Actually I wonder if he even still eats like normal lol

[fresh drum]

That sounds like something he’d do

Can it even consume food? Where does it lead to?

[frosty wren]

wonder if whatever he's turning into just straight up doesn't make him feel pain.

[nimble anvil]

Isn't he shown drinking with Maximus in the last episode

[silent scarab]

Thaddeus legit probably hasn’t changed his clothes since he ran away

He’s still in uniform

And he doesn’t feel pain that much

[paper junco]

I think so, yeah. But that doesn't mean he needs to eat / drink like normal for sustenance

[silent scarab]

He probably legit hasn’t seen it, it was completely functional then popped off

[nimble anvil]

You think they do laundry in the nuclear apocalypse?

The Sole Survivor's jumpsuit is probably stuck to his skin.

[oblique cape]

(credit to @nobodyperfect300 on TikTok)

[fresh drum]

[peak sphinx]

[nimble anvil]

I love how the deathclaw just whips him with his tail.

Some Bowser shit right there

[oblique cape]

I now hope Maximus whips around a deathclaw and throws it out of New Vegas a la Super Mario 64

[real scroll]

OMG

[fresh drum]

https://tenor.com/view/kumonga-godzilla-gojira-spider-giant-gif-9600962

[olive silo]

Wow fallout season one is now on YouTube

[paper junco]

I saw they're doing that! Good marketing, but kind of surprised tbh. They must actually have a lot of faith in S2 and their plans moving forward

[icy turtle]

oh shit, is it? Easy watch then.

[olive silo]

Yesssir

[wheat lodge]

We call this marketing and always staying ahead of the competition

[paper junco]

I don't think you're Amazon

[nimble bronze]

this is the wildest episode ive seen lol

everyone in the vaults have some beef against canadians

[valid tree]

For real?

[nimble bronze]

i actually dont understand the point of this canadian sub plot lol

[valid tree]

Holy shit you're right

[wheat lodge]

I know but that's straight up just a marketing technique to create appeal for the tv show so people buy prime video to watch season 2

[olive silo]

Yesssir benny

Anyone got any spoilers for the next episode

I can't wait

[nimble bronze]

isnt the next episode the last of the season

[icy turtle]

Yep

[olive silo]

Yes

Anyone know anyone who works on the set ?

[paper junco]

depends what you mean by that

[olive silo]

Someone who can tell me anything about the next episode sir

[paper junco]

oh then no but good luck trying to get anything from anyone. Go bother all the people who saw it in Vegas on Tuesday lol

[olive silo]

They were allowed to see it early???

[paper junco]

A small group but yes

Dig around online and you can find them, or I posted some the day afterward if you want to check my old messages on here lol

[olive silo]

Cheers bud - also are you really a composer?

[paper junco]

That's my background, yes. Pivoted away from it for more stability though. Was solidly a professional, just not for long lol

[olive silo]

Very impressive, I think I saw your IMDb super cool! How do you even get into a gig like that lol.

[paper junco]

that reminds me I need to change my website link on my discord profile, that's no longer live lmao

But I studied music composition in college was the main step, then did freelance work where I could and assisted a bit on legit stuff (kids Spider-Man show for Disney). Pivoted away though, covid & economy slowed film scoring down so much I needed more stability

[olive silo]

👏 Wish I had some artistic licence rather than staring at a desktop all day for my job lol

[olive silo]

Even my handwriting is like a child's 😂

[wheat lodge]

This thing is the reason why I left programming at school. I have energy to use, I gotta move, that's why I am probably gonna do field biology

Gotta preserves the other animals

[paper junco]

admittely, I have no artistic license in my job now about 97% of the time. Now I too just stare at a desktop all day, but hey, after spending years doing the freelance grind and the instability that comes with that I don't mind a more 8-5ish tbh

[paper junco]

you can be the biology in so many various fields

[wheat lodge]

No, I mean doing biology on the field, like collecting samples

[paper junco]

oh I know, sorry, I was making a joke. Just not very well, clearly 🙁

[olive silo]

Dev work can be fun if the projects are meaningful

[olive silo]

I mean nowadays a job doesn't really make you money - although I think American salaries are still pretty good compared to the rest of the west

Gotta hoard assets like the rich

[wheat lodge]

I was working for a cooperative as a student during summer. I had nothing to do, I was completing all the tasks they were giving me in 15 minutes. So they were basically paying me for being on my phone all day long

[olive silo]

I mean for some of these big companies I found I had to search for work and take initiative, could sometimes just sit there and do random stuff

Was bizarre

[olive silo]

When you say you collect samples what dyou mean sorry? Like out in the field?

[wheat lodge]

Yes, like watch animals, set up trail cams, look at feces, inspect cadavers, etc

[olive silo]

Sounds really cool - are you living fire watch the game by any chance 👀

[wheat lodge]

Nope

[peak apex]

Bro can we talk about the political and economic state of the NCR right now

[olive silo]

Guy works in the field - he's basically a ranger

[sterile coral]

I’d say it’s back to where it was in the early days after its foundation; not at its peak, but not back to the Fallout 1 days either.

[leaden furnace]

It’s back to Fallout 1 days because they’re DEAD

[olive silo]

Ncr gonna be having wooden fences for their borders again

[heavy anchor]

NCR occupies Mojave and Free side
"Grrr I hate the NCR"
NCR leaves due to shady sands
"No wait"
Maximus arrives in NCR power armor

Talk about a switch up

[leaden furnace]

Something something it’s been 15 years! Get lore mogged

[night totem]

Strip has collapsed and the NCR are by far the nicest faction

Well thats not a high bar considering the other options are Massacist Cannibals role-playing the Roman Empire and Asian Gangsters

[leaden furnace]

The parts of Vegas outside of the strip presumably didn’t care much about the NCR being “nice” in NV, considering they largely disliked them and House regardless.

[urban mantle]

Hey man if it gets us a NNCR it's worth it

[leaden furnace]

If anything I’d expect them to not care about House being gone, since they seem to be doing fine regardless.

The strip was never their own after House took control. Just new administration.

[night totem]

Well then its more of the saying "You don't know what you've got until you lose it"

[leaden furnace]

Well they did know since they lost the Strip once House and the Families took control and pushed everyone out.

[urban mantle]

It's not every day someone appears to exterminate your local apex predator reserve out of the goodness of their heart

[night totem]

Plus its been 20 years since Vegas so maybe some later born people grew up liking them

[leaden furnace]

The only positive effect the NCR was having on areas outside of the Strip was fighting the Fiends, which was also a problem that they had a hand in empowering.

If anything I’d expect Freeside to miss the Followers more than anyone

[urban mantle]

There were some other positives but because of the situation with the legion they couldn't really get a solid framework for non military assets

[night totem]

World Building for pre war US

[urban mantle]

And in freeside it was kinda just miscommunication going off the game

[night totem]

And getting a previous villain motivation and empathy

[leaden furnace]

Only other positive for locals going off of the game was the Dam providing power, which I’m not even sure was actually routed to anywhere but McCarran and the Strip.

Of course you can fix these things for them by building relations but this doesn’t happen without the courier

[night totem]

Im still waiting for an on screen X-01 to reveal the Enclave

[urban mantle]

I think it's just down to the fact that the NCR needs to become well established in a region for it to benefit from their presence, between the legion and house they just didn't have the opportunity to start building up the logistical framework necessary

[night totem]

Ron Pearlman already mentioned it and Norm found the FEV

[leaden furnace]

Yeah but locals didn’t care about that. They just saw an occupying army that was sending a bunch of caps, soldiers, and traders to House and leaving them with squatters, routing water to their private farms, and evicting them from their homes.

New faces same shit essentially

[urban mantle]

Perhaps they just got used to them by the time the NCR was being pushed out

[leaden furnace]

Idk unless the courier helped build some stronger relations before things went to shit I find it unlikely, but I suppose we’ll never get solid answers because the writers want to keep everything ambiguous

[urban mantle]

Assuming it was a house ending relations could've improved as the situation deteriorated

Perhaps the NCR deployed some aid missions to try and secure Vegas against the legion

[sudden sand]

but not x-01

advanced power armour. slimmed down x-01 with changes to make it feasibly way more advanced

i love the x-01 but it cant just be used instead of the enclaves actual power armours. its 200 years out of date as of f4 let alone the shows 10 year later timespan

[leaden furnace]

Why would we want X-01 anyways it’s just APA MK1 but with the lore that it’s a prototype version

[frigid summit]

maybe at the veryend of the finale lol

[sudden sand]

at this point id be hoping for sleeked down mk 2s and hellfire not the advanced m1

[leaden furnace]

I do not want cat ears APA

Should be MK1 or a totally new design imo

[sudden sand]

ok so the ncr pa definately has missile launchers on the back

im looking at the ingame model and they very clearly modelled in empty tubes on the back structure

[icy turtle]

MORTARS

[atomic cedar]

Legion is so back

[sudden sand]

MORTARS

they may be loaded and he just doesnt know how to use em

they arent gonna make a whole ass power armour suit just for one episode then never use it again. the t60 has been in at least 75 percent of the episodes , and the t45 2 since it was unveiled in ep 4

[modern orbit]

looks sick

[tidal grove]

is this guy nate the rake

[visual echo]

Alright I'm convinced whatever is in Hanks keepsake box is not FEV, and is actually something personal and very important to Steph

Steph nearly fricken cries when she gets to the box, that is not a reaction someone would make to getting ahold of a tool/weapon like fev that has no meaning to them

[tidal grove]

geck?

[visual echo]

No something sentimental

[tidal grove]

a fellow canadian?

[visual echo]

Lol

Maybe her mom's photo or something like that

[tidal grove]

why would hank have that

[visual echo]

Cuz obviously Steph seduced him to get into vault tec and Bud's buds

So she probably had him save something for her

[sterile coral]

Cue Steph turning out to be Lucy’s actual biological mom, perhaps?

[icy turtle]

where are you seeing this?

[visual echo]

When she walks up to the box?

[paper junco]

That doesn't make much sense, to be honest. That's a pretty minimal thing to build up to. Hank's box has been referenced now like what, 2 or 3 weeks ago? I think Hank's box is FAR more likely to be narratively significant, not emotionally (unless it's emotional for Hank and Steph wants to blackmail him for something, but for what?). And his box having a keepsake for her just like...why. To what end? So her entire arc is getting a photo? Seems VERY unlikely

[icy turtle]

yes, where, i pulled up the scene where she runs into the room.

or do you mean when betty retrieved it

[paper junco]

Steph is in it for revenge in some capacity, not to get back a momento. You don't build up someone leaning to think of Americans as not being humans for the reveal of the thing she's been trying to get tyhen being...a momento

[visual echo]

Clearly you aren't paying attention or just straight up you don't understand social queues and behavior

Her eyes are literally about to well with tears when Betty says congratulations

[icy turtle]

I mean, no i agree with him cause it doesn't make sense lining up with Betty's dialogue, either.

[visual echo]

Wait what scene are you even talking about

I feel we may be talking about a different scene

[paper junco]

I think Ajax was looking at the wrong scene at first but now has looked at the right one. The right scene is the handoff between Steph and Betty between the vaults

[icy turtle]

I misunderstood what you were referencing at first. You're talking about when Betty left the box by the vault door, and Steph gets it, at first I was under a different impression. lol

[visual echo]

I'm talking about the one where she is about to grab Hanks keepsake box and then Betty says congrats

[icy turtle]

yes, this, thank you. lol

I think she might be crying cause she can finally exact her revenge, and it can give her mother some peace?

[paper junco]

Which yes, she does have an emotional reaction to it. But - again - narratively, why would it be a momento/keepsake?

[visual echo]

Ah yea I see where the confusion lies

Idk what it is I just don't think it's fev

Her reaction of almost crying tells me it's something really important to her

[icy turtle]

Idk if it's FEV either, i think it's something she wants to use though

[paper junco]

Like - someone who watched their family and country be slaughtered, tricked their way into self-preservation, and has some sort of longer term plan likely for revenge given all of her backstory - of course she has an emotional reaction tot he box. Whatever is in it will help her get what she wants, and right now, all we know that she wants is some form of revenge.

[visual echo]

Yea idk what it could be

[atomic cedar]

A fake eye

[visual echo]

Lol she planned to lose one

[icy turtle]

Because Betty makes it seem bad, btw.

[paper junco]

a REAL eye

[icy turtle]

"Whatever you're up to, i want no part of it."
Cause Betty looked inside.

[visual echo]

Yea but also Betty says to someone or Steph that they were always afraid of Steph so she probably is just assuming it's bad

I mean it probably is bad

[visual echo]

I don't think she did look

[icy turtle]

It could be, i still think it's something to use against people. lol

[visual echo]

The keepsake box has a lock on it does Betty have the key

[atomic cedar]

So Legion is marching on an undefended strip this will be the perfect ending for NV

[icy turtle]

ah, ok

[visual echo]

The reason why I think it's something sentimental is cuz I also believe Steph seduced Hank so she would have been able to get him to save something for her in there I just don't know what

[quick urchin]

"Impersonating management is punishable by death"

It's just basic procedure.

[atomic cedar]

How will Norm get out of this one

[visual echo]

Speech

[quick urchin]

They used a lead pipe once, but it was controversial

[leaden furnace]

Can’t wait for the 2 minute Norm scene next episode

[visual echo]

He'll say my dad is Hank MacLean, I bet actually Ronnie n gang are going to hold a mock trial for Norm, and they'll ask him what his full name is while sentencing him to death and then when he says MacLean they'll stop

[atomic cedar]

I'm glad that the way he escapes in the finale wasn't spoiled in the very first season 2 trailer

Hank will join the Legion in season 3

[visual echo]

Na, he's probably going to die in the last episode of this season

Hanks arc is almost up

All that's missing is him being brought to justice

Kinda hope we get a prewar backstory for Hank as well and see what led him to be that way

[real scroll]

Obviously the secret box just has an embaressing photo of Hank from the Christmas Party

[quick urchin]

I dont know that Id enjoy the show as much without Retro Boyd Crowder

[valid tree]

Nate was a soldier, this is a marine

From my understanding the marines wore t45 while army wore t51

[ruby remnant]

Idk if anyone else noticed but Titus not even able to handle a Yao guai in power armor while max be taking on deathclaws in power armor was a cool sort of circling back moment too

[visual echo]

Titus ran away

He tried shooting, gun breaks he panics and runs

He was just a bitch

Maximus however is specced into unarmed skill apparently, and his power armor has been reinforced with extra plating and blades n other shit for protection

I'm sure if Titus had a massive blade he'd be able to cut the yao guai head off

[leaden furnace]

Doubt he’d be brave or skilled enough even if he could physically perform the act

[dim forge]

He could've still threw some decent punches to knock that animal out

[merry jolt]

I’m still thinking at least some of the Freeside residents are gonna end up helping out

[leaden furnace]

He did tbf, it just tanked them lol

[crimson elm]

Missed oportunity for the ghoul to boot up the lucky 38 mainframe and to get jumpscared by Yes Man

[lavish stream]

They doing my boy Norm so wrong. Sigh...

I'm so fucking proud of Chet. I really thought he'd fold and marry that conniving woman.

And poor Woody. 😭

But he kind of was careless with his approach. He shouldn't have straight out and said what he saw. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[ashen sapphire]

i mean their strength is pretty comparable

[lavish stream]

Also for those who were bagging on the NCR; this episode proved how good they were. 😏

[ashen sapphire]

next episode... a centurion is about to land the killing blow on max, but then

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-gif-13246854

[lavish stream]

Nah....

[west cloud]

well I'll be damn..they are goddamn mortars.

[ashen sapphire]

one can only hope

[west cloud]

chew up the targets before heading in to clean it up. Smart.

[lavish stream]

blasphemy.

[west cloud]

also frees up the PA's hands for other heavy equipment, too. That's some far more dangerous than the BoS' system. maintain, but the NCR innovated.

[ashen sapphire]

i think dogmeat solos the entire legion army

[west cloud]

to be fair, his fists were hurting the Bear and was putting it in a stagger, which means if he kept up the aggression, he would've eventually make hte bear pull back, or kill it outright with a good hook to the face. But alas, he was a coward.

he freaked out too much instead of getting aggressive and got himself killed for it.

[visual echo]

True I forgot, I haven't watched the first episode

In awhile

[ashen sapphire]

Titus is a true hero

[west cloud]

dude didn't believe in anything and sounded more like a merc or raider with his mindset. Then again, could be the Elder's lack of 'teaching' that has devolved the knights in such a stupor

[fleet rapids]

What are yall’s general opinion about this episode?

[west cloud]

7? Fantastic.

probably will give Unarmed playthroughs a boost because of the testosterone of putting down a deathclaw with PA hands and blade.

and of course, House was correct, Cooper was the key to doomsday what with giving the CF to the Enclave, though without the code, I guess the Enclave couldn't access it, or they did, and this is simply a byproduct.

[visual echo]

Unarmed was always good it was just lame in fo4

[west cloud]

aka another CF battery.

[fleet rapids]

I don’t think Maximus used a lot of guns in the seasons

So melee is prob what is best for him.

[visual echo]

First time he used the pistol against the gulper it malfunctioned or something dunno if that's his fault, but then he seemed to kill the bridge raiders with ease, think in the episode when he's searching for the key to area 51 he's using a pistol and the other guy has the AR

[west cloud]

throughout the seasons he used:
-10mm pistol for the yao guai and the fiends
-laser pistol in his failed attempt to assassinate the Elder.

• Assault rifle against the securitron
  aand....hm...I think that's about it. He's definitely getting more experienced in the PA, that's for usre.

[fleet rapids]

Only if he knew 😔

[visual echo]

T60 pistol

[west cloud]

ah yes, the T60 against the gulper to draw it out

[visual echo]

Yes but then also against ghouls

[west cloud]

that's about it. More often than not, he's all unarmed combat with a tiny bit of melee.

[fleet rapids]

When was that, or am I just not thinking correctly?

[west cloud]

so handguns focused as a secondary, and unarmed being a primary. He's born to put enemies in their plac.e

[visual echo]

When he's searching for the key to area 51

[west cloud]

he was sent to retreive a data key for Area 51, yup

[fleet rapids]

Yeah but he never shot them

[visual echo]

Yes he does

[west cloud]

he did, he shot a few.

[visual echo]

He also domes the creepy one at the end

[fleet rapids]

Why an I so confused abt this 😭

Wait nvm

Now I remember

That one scene I just forgot 😔

[west cloud]

real talk, beyond the enclave, I'm surprised there hasn't been a badass wastelander survivalist that managed to score a deathclaw egg and tame it.

[visual echo]

Be cool to see

[timber oyster]

president dih richardson 🥀

[fleet rapids]

Also wasn’t this our first time seeing the president of USA?

[timber oyster]

yes

i think it's mr richardson, but others said no. Ima stick with my opinion though

[fleet rapids]

Im surprised none else got excited since it was always a mystery

[timber oyster]

i was pretty excited. More enclave, more fun

[fleet rapids]

True

X ray doesn’t even show what his name is sadly..

[inner pollen]

"spongebob me boy. ye gotta hand over the cold fusion to me. i promise nothing bad will happen to ye and everyone else. ye can trust me, spongebob. the resource war will end for sure me boy."

-# context: pretty sure that's the guy who voices Mr. Krabs

[bleak forge]

That is Head Paladin Rhombus you are speaking to

[inner pollen]

who

[bleak forge]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Rhombus

voiced by Clancy Brown, his first time working with the Fallout universe lol

though I doubt he remembers the role it wasn't anything major

[inner pollen]

:0

mr. krabs been doing some side hustling

why does his power armour cake him up lmao

"ASS VICTORIAM, SIR!"

[leaden furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout2-fallout-fallout-idle-power-armor-gif-27531431

[visual echo]

It gotta be

[visual echo]

It's interesting coincidence they mention the resource wars being 25 years and then Lucy says the old NCR guy lived on that hill for 25 years

Guess they're just comparing them , NCR been in a "resource war" with legion for 25 years

[small flicker]

[digital walrus]

I thought they said 35 for resource

[rapid wigeon]

Episode 8 starts with NCR exiles flew in with Helicarrier to New Vegas to confront Mr House and the Northern Legion also came in to intercept the Enclave from competing their human control devices project

Making Fallout The Frontier the first mod to get canonized by the game

Bravo Todd Howard

[digital walrus]

I maybe misheard

[digital walrus]

Ew no

[west cloud]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/a/af/Fo1_PowerArmor_loading_screen.png/revision/latest?cb=20250708125648

it looks even crazier. with the art LOL

[visual echo]

At the point in time coop gave the diode to the Congress woman Welch and the president, she says 25 years

[inner pollen]

oh they went Doom Guy

[west cloud]

looks less like armor and more like a hazmat suit

imagine being so yoked, the metal is deformed to your muscle outline, SHEEESH

[rapid wigeon]

I don’t remember if Fallout 1 power armor protects you from radiation or not

[visual echo]

Probably

[west cloud]

I...think it does, but there wasn't really a reason to go back to The Glow unless you wanted to talk to the ZAX computer

[digital walrus]

Fallout 2s does since its the only way into the uranimum mine base game

[rapid wigeon]

I remember Geiger Counter used to be separate item in Fallout 1 and you need to equipped one to know if you’re dying from radiation in fallout

I also remember rad-x used to be overpowered in first fallout as you only need to take 2-3 pills for surviving in the Glow for a week ingame time

[west cloud]

yup

[rapid wigeon]

Or was it 3 days. I’m not sure. I spend a lot of time with ZAX using only rad-x

[west cloud]

Rad-x made the region easy, just go in, and done.

ZAX was quite the treat, and reading between the lines after playing the other games realized how fuck the future was.

[misty yoke]

i think the glow only irradiates on the top, iirc, meaning u can just run in quiick and be fine

[vapid flare]

So Diane is now a makeshift robobrain

[vapid flare]

Wait speaking of guns

What the hell is the weird grenade looking weapon the Ghoul/Cooper carries anyway

[vapid flare]

Istg they will come back I'm manifesting

🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️NCR🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️

[valid tree]

You're the first guy I've seen acknowledge that 👀

[misty yoke]

ive been saying since the beginning that they're showing up in the last ep as "heroic good guys", and now that we know the last ep features the legion it's basically confirmed.

i'm expecting them to show up in vertibirds to stop a legion assault on the strip or something.

altho the latter could be commonwealth BoS as well

[ashen sapphire]

i think its too early for a full commonwealth arrival

[slate junco]

that last scene with the spanish song is just perfect 👌

[misty yoke]

a thought i just had is that are the freesiders hank's minions? that would explain why they ignore the ghoul and are ok living next to deathclaws... but like why lol

[misty yoke]

well either a chapter of BoS or the enclave has to take cold fusion by the end of ep8 and i think either one is viable, quintus bos getting slapped by commonwealth bos would effectively close out that arc and set up s3

its also possible quintus is just dead off screen

but clearly they need someone to chase for s3 or be chased by.

[ashen sapphire]

why cant house just keep it

[rapid wigeon]

Obviously they going to make the Enclave came back

[misty yoke]

bos/legion/enclave wont allow it, and its kinda unclear what if any securitrons house has left, altho if he has access to nukes he could threaten to blow up the strip i guess? because atm nothing stops someone from just walking up to lucky 38 and grabbing it, i think house / hank are actually controlling the deathclaws outside and now they're dead so its free real estate for anyone willing to grab it.

altho it would be funny if what i said earlier is the case and the freesiders are hanks/houses minions, and they just pick up arms now

[ashen sapphire]

the BOS doesn't really have the means to do so right now, the legion don't know about the cold fusion and are probably gonna get stopped by either houses defenses or the NCR, and i doubt the enclave will directly involve themselves either yet

[misty yoke]

its possible Commonwealth is on their way ever since ep whatever where Xander went missing since he should have reported in by now I assume, it mihgt not be the smoothest plot movement but at the same time neither is the NCR battalion showing up which i think will show up in the next ep

[fleet rapids]

Resource war of the Caribbean. 😔

[ashen sapphire]

if the ncr DOES show up, I doubt they will have the firepower or the motivation to take house out

[fleet rapids]

I didn’t even know he was the voice actor Mr. Krabs.

Actually neverminf

[ashen sapphire]

the commonwealth involving themselves in the final fight would be out of left field

they would get obliterated by house's defenses too

[fleet rapids]

Where do you guys think s3 would mainly be?

[misty yoke]

there is 0 mention that the rooftop defenses are anything but anti air missiles that were put out of comission by the time of FNV's events. it would make no sense house didn't use them to blast the legion away if they were of any significance during the events of FONV

[inner pollen]

if there's one thing history humanity in general. those who end up in leadership positions with a lot of power and wealth loves doing, it's repeating itself 😌

which sucks because the shit that repeats is always the really bad stuff

the stuff that has the most negative impact on everyone

[ashen sapphire]

NCR legion and house all survive into season 3, we get the third battle of hoover dam. next title is FNV 2, thank you Todd

[inner pollen]

i feel like it'll still focus on Vegas a bit before moving back towards Vault 33, 32, and 31 by maybe the end of S3 idk

they're preparing for all out war between literally everyone

supermutants, what's left of the NCR and the Legion, Enclave, whatever else remains of Vault-Tec (so far that seems to be Vault 33, 32, and what remains of 31's icey-poles - within California anyways), House (potentially), Freeside, and any settlements that'll inevitably be caught in the crossfire.

[misty yoke]

the showrunners said they want 5 seasons but if they only have 3 seasons ordered then by season 3 they have to know where it ends, they might use up this time to see if they can secure more seasons but if not then s3 will just be about getting cold fusion to NCR so they can rebuild shady sands and dealing with hank and the enclave

along with the vault plot

[inner pollen]

five seasons… so by season five it'd be 2028?? 😭

damn

[misty yoke]

i think fo5 is going to be in san fran so theres definitely not going to be an ending where the NCR just collapses into nothing unless they want san fran to be "post-post-post apocalyptic"

2028 is optimistic, its usually 2 years between seasons

so it would finish by the time FO5 is almost out

[inner pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[inner pollen]

ALMOST????? oh we are fucked

[misty yoke]

yeah it will be minimum 4 years after TES6 releases

ok so apparently tes6 is not coming out until 2028, so that would mean 2032 unless they co develop it alongside

by the earliest*

[inner pollen]

given how much Bethesda has slowed down in production (like most other AAA developers), i'm not too confident it'll be a minimum of four years. BUT HERE'S TO HOPING 🙏

[inner pollen]

they very likely will not completely wipe out the NCR mainly because fans will be p i s s e d

[misty yoke]

i guess they will try to cram in fo3/fnv remake to tie the gap, or make a hasty UE5 slop FO5 that will sink the franchise (and bethesda)

[rapid wigeon]

[Power Houses of the wasteland are on to Cold Fusion]
“legion won’t allowed it”

Who invited bro to the team 😭

[inner pollen]

just watched this happen to BioWare with Dragon Age if this happens again to Bethesda i might just go and live on a deserted island and go crazy by my lonesome, because that would be more merciful than having to function everyday knowing what Bethesda became.

[rapid wigeon]

Legion is menacing and capable of fighting and all. But even by New Vegas lore. They’re not after old world power and only seek control within their territories

[inner pollen]

like the good lil bastardised cult they are

[misty yoke]

bethesda is fine since they still got a giant userbase that plays skyrim/fo4 to this day, im being pretty sarcastic saying even the worst imaginable FO5 would not sell at least 10 million copies and be fine

theyve had 2 shitty projects (starfield,fo76) that did negligible harm to their brand but i think everyone is still gonna buy the next big bethesda games regardless

[inner pollen]

i hate that you're probably right (that even if FO5 is objectively bad they'll be fine)… but after Starfield people are more mistrustful of Bethesda……….. but the Oblivion remake has people hopeful again

business strategies be like that i guess

[misty yoke]

theyre really a kind of a one hit wonder, where the people want singleplayer fallout/TES games and violently reject anything else

[rapid wigeon]

Don’t worry

Todd Howard loves the Enclave and BoS too much to lets these two died out or downgrade them lower than super powers in next fallout game

[misty yoke]

(altho somehow fallout shelter is mega successful for them i think?)

[inner pollen]

seems to be yeah

[rapid wigeon]

Fallout 3 BoS started with remnants of Lost Hills and ended with Super Power of Brotherhood chapters with youngest Elder in their history within 10yr

By that logic. Brotherhood will be able to invade China by 2377

[silver falcon]

the brotherhood on mars by 2477

[inner pollen]

tends to happen when your studio dedicates itself to a certain genre. but people were excited for Starfield, even though it wasn't TES or FO, because it still fit the same mould as those two series. it fell through because it was pure ass 😭 bugs (and not the "tee-hee" silly Bethesda bugs), story as bland as wet cardboard, empty world, a copious amount of loading screens which went against what was advertised iirc, and just… no real effort afaik

[inner pollen]

basically Doom

which Bethesda owns afaik

[silver falcon]

this is how i learn about this..

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-frog-smiling-friends-season-3-crash-out-crashout-gif-16779756693391733993

[inner pollen]

having Bethesda or EA own a franchise you love is a slow, painful death

-# looking at what EA has done to the Sims franchise

although

Bethesda could still clutch this

[silver falcon]

50 MORE DLCS FOR THE MOST USELESS MECHANICS AND ADDITIONS!

anyways i hope they dont turn house into AI, i hope hes still alive

the ai thing is too cheap

[ashen sapphire]

i believe in todd

[inner pollen]

given how he needed Cold Fusion to live, and he'd been without it for who knows how long… i'm scared they're gonna go down the AI route 😭

[leaden furnace]

House doesn’t need cold fusion to keep himself alive, he has a reactor within the lucky 38

The cold fusion was primarily to enable his consciousness transfer

With the added benefit of being a infinite clean power source which is always valuable besides

[silver falcon]

yeahh thats what i was gonna say

[rapid wigeon]

He’s going to make Fallout 5 in Wyoming and somehow Brotherhood of Steel are in it and charging you $30 each for 10 DLCs. about BoS being there

[inner pollen]

"it just works"

[leaden furnace]

Brotherhood vs Khan war

[silver falcon]

and a 150 dollar DLC pack that adds 15 reskinned dogmeats that you have to find individually

oh wait they did that already with the 4th game

[inner pollen]

ooooohhhhh

[ashen sapphire]

fallout 5 is gonna be set in china starring the brotherhood china chapter

[inner pollen]

i think they'd be cooler

or so much worse

idk the pendulum could swing to one extreme or another with that one

[fleet rapids]

Freeside is already cooked by this episode alone

Also who was the best person for cold fusion?

[inner pollen]

honestly i don't think there is a right answer to that

[fleet rapids]

Or organization

We don’t trust Vault-Tec/Enclave whatsoever

[inner pollen]

still no exact right answer - but i'd say the Followers, but they don't have the means to protect themselves from anyone who would be vying for it, nor is there any guarantee someone within the Followers would succumb to greed.

ideally? everyone should have access to it and no one should own it.

[fleet rapids]

Isn’t the followers post-war?

[inner pollen]

oh you're talking pre-war? then no one should have it 😭

[fleet rapids]

Lmaoo

[rapid wigeon]

the followers got ZERO mentioned ever since Bethesda's fallout went solo 💔

not even a DLC skins in Fallout 76

[valid tree]

Dude like what

[inner pollen]

-# several people are typing

[valid tree]

They're the "good guy" faction that Bethesda loves to include usually, except these guys were never mentioned once

[rapid wigeon]

some OG fallout fans are going to dress in doctor jacket with gear cross and newbies are going to ask "who's dat" 😭

[misty yoke]

i liked it a lot, mainly because the aesthetic and the gameplay fantasy was actually really well made. it's rly funny how the main criticism was "loading screens ree" but that really doesn't matter when you're immersed, and bethesda games were always full of them anyway. either way if it had fallout branding slapped to it in some way im sure it would have gotten 10%+ metacritic score automatically

[night totem]

200 years and its still one of the most advanced things you can find.

[valid tree]

Is it the christian chapter of the Brotherhood?!

[inner pollen]

and don't let anyone make you feel ashamed for enjoying it

[valid tree]

But the Enclave improved on it, why wouldn't they use the improved version they mass produce?

[night totem]

Ehh true

As long as its not a body suit and still a hulking armor frame

[valid tree]

In fo2 it's bulky af

[valid tree]

I agree

[night totem]

Maybe in season 3 we could see Hellfire and X-02

[leaden furnace]

“X-02” 🥀

[misty yoke]

i dont mind ppl shitting on the game since its pretty understandable people want fallout+tes from the one trick pony developer and get mad if they cant have it, its more annoying to me ppl crave for remakes and sequels and wont give new IPs and genuine attempts at being original a chance

[valid tree]

Yeah I'd be good with that, as long as they do show apa to some capacity I'm happy

[night totem]

What

[valid tree]

Apa mkII

[rapid wigeon]

Maybe in season 3 we could get Followers references

OH WAIT the faction got no brand recognition thus can’t sell their cosmetic skins in 76

Followers never existed

Just like how Water Merchants magically disappeared after fallout 2

The Big Bank of wasteland just disappeared yet people still using bottle caps

[valid tree]

They're literally the quintessential good guy faction, they made up the minutemen, the responders and Lyons chapter yet they still haven't done these guys

[leaden furnace]

I do not recall the water merchants being in FO2. Where are they mentioned?

[wheat lodge]

Balada de la trompeta

Is the song at the end of the episode btw

[rapid wigeon]

Thanks to Tandi. NCR currency crushed bottle caps and no one were using them during 2241

[valid tree]

Hell yeah the president that served how many terms?

[wheat lodge]

And then FNV happened

[leaden furnace]

Too many

[rapid wigeon]

Somehow that didn’t stop East Coast from using the bottle caps (for some reason) and how in 2281 people are going back to using bottle caps yet the big bank was no longer exist

[leaden furnace]

Merchant companies backed caps on the frontier and beyond due to the NCR dollar being weak

[frigid summit]

and the legion somehow had the facilities to create their own currency

slaves i guess

[leaden furnace]

It’s not too complex to melt gold and silver and shape it into a coin

[rapid wigeon]

Fallout 4 bottle caps aren’t exclusively Nuka Cola too. Beer, Vim, Local brew bottle caps worked just fine just like how ALL money can be exchange in real life ❤️

no no you don’t NEED exchange rates or FED standard currency for that. People just ok with buying stuffs as long as it’s a bottle caps ❤️

[frigid summit]

probably scrap metal tbh i guess its pretty easy in that regard

[silver falcon]

the NCR uses their own currency, the mojave is nearly fully cut off from the NCR due to the divide and its a region they JUST entered

[frigid summit]

i wonder when the NCR will open their first stock exchange

[silver falcon]

not to mention its a major trading post

its only natural they use caps

[rapid wigeon]

Somehow a “tribal” nation has the knowledge and understanding of economic power to make their own currency but not Fallout 4 Brotherhood or any other factions in the wasteland

[ashen sapphire]

ma june

[valid tree]

It's probably house controlling the economy

Yes man states that house spent over 800k caps searching for the chip in a year alone

[silver falcon]

so naturally house gives.. how many caps to the courier?

[leaden furnace]

Less than if you give him snowglobes

[valid tree]

Well he's still being generous. He's already paying you far more than promised in the contract

The snow globes are more personal, so he's willing to spend more, like buying a painting or a collectible car

[rapid wigeon]

Wouldn’t it be cool if Fallout 5 has the realistic economic system based on Faction you’re on and required you to be more invested in one faction than another if you want to keep yourself above the currency system

Also how tf fallout 76 has bottle caps currency when Water Merchants aren’t even existed yet

[valid tree]

He's already expended alot of his money on the platinum chip, there's no need for him to spend any more

[silver falcon]

"wheres the platinum chip courier"

the courier staring at houses terminal with a suspiciously platinum chip shaped throat

[valid tree]

That'd be cool, and yeah I don't have an explanation for that lmao

There isn't really any central power in Appalachia, who the fuck is enforcing the economy

[frigid summit]

cant you break the fallout economy by owning the bottling plants

people will probably just return to barter instead of currency

[rapid wigeon]

Nothing stopping you from doing that since fallout 4 bottle caps aren’t exclusively Nuka Cola anyway

[silver falcon]

yes, theres a quest about it in new vegas, they're considered "counterfeit"

[rapid wigeon]

you can print your own money being an alcoholic beer lover

[valid tree]

Alice Mclafferty sends you to dismantle a press, and the courier is able to tell counterfeited caps from real, old and worn ones

[silver falcon]

sarsaparilla doesnt have alcohol 😔

[leaden furnace]

Funny 76 explanation

[valid tree]

I like 76 but like come on

[silver falcon]

thats a lil lame im not gonna lie

[frigid summit]

bottecaps as a currency has gotta suck, NCR had the right idea with notes

even if those notes were weak

[valid tree]

Yeah imagine hauling around 30k caps to buy a single weapon lmfaoo

[frigid summit]

maybe fallout 5 we'll have credit cards

[silver falcon]

how the fuck did the super mutant in the show have such a big lump of uranium

[frigid summit]

exactly youd be overencumbered 24/7

[rapid wigeon]

FNV tried to fit in Sarsaparilla as “alternative” currency to Nuka Cola

But in Fallout 4 some farmer just say “we use bottle caps now” and every item with bottle cap on it are is considered currency

At this point. Just be communism. What’s the point of owning currency 💔

[valid tree]

CHAHGE CAHD

[silver falcon]

where did he even find it from

[valid tree]

Lmao

He had it in his pocket

The player character can fit so much shit in their pipboy

[forest gyro]

something something uranium fever

[valid tree]

Cooper was feelin a little sick there, prolly was coming up with uranium fever

[silver falcon]

superman ahhh healing lore

[leaden furnace]

Uranium was as rare as oil in the pre-war world, but maybe the US had the last remaining supply of it too

[valid tree]

Homie should've whipped out a stimpak