But I'm slightly annoyed they don't show any form of t51
#EPISODE 1
fallow flower
candid spire
Gotta wait until next week to play ep2 tho
fallow flower
Gotta wait until next week to play ep2 tho
No you don't
Unless it's your personal preference
vernal matrix
But I'm slightly annoyed they don't show any form of t51
i dont think the BOS had schematics on t51
candid spire
OH NO WAY WERE GOING TO LA
fallow flower
i dont think the BOS had schematics on t51
This is the west coast brotherhood they should
shell sand
I’m watching all the episodes between tonight and tomorrow lol
fallow flower
T60 is from the east coast
vernal matrix
This is the west coast brotherhood they should
only faction that i know that produces power armor on the west coast is the Shi, and we havent heard of them since fo2
fallow flower
only faction that i know that produces power armor on the west coast is the Shi,...
I don't mean produce
I mean like, they don't just have t51
candid spire
No you don't
I wanna stretch it out, consume an episode a week so I get more invested
fallow flower
It's supposed to be superior to t60
vernal matrix
It's supposed to be superior to t60
also much more harder to maintain
quiet depot
Poor Maximus
vernal matrix
in the dry, sandy area, id prioritize reliabiliy over protection
tidal sapphire
Man that whole episode was cool
vernal matrix
Poor Maximus
wdym, he got his goal and his friendship survived
fallow flower
Also, HOW IS THE ENCLAVE BACK!?!?!
vernal matrix
Also, HOW IS THE ENCLAVE BACK!?!?!
the same way enclave remnants in fnv exist
fallow flower
Like im happy but huh
ornate arrow
It would make sense if the t60 started being used if it's all dirty, easier to repair
tidal sapphire
And I wonder why the Commonwealth bos send out a noticed for the capture of the enclave guy
vernal matrix
And I wonder why the Commonwealth bos send out a noticed for the capture of the ...
i mean it could be a virgil-esque case
quiet depot
wdym, he got his goal and his friendship survived
I literally just saw him breakdown and break a toilet
tidal sapphire
Yeah maybe
fallow flower
It would make sense if the t60 started being used if it's all dirty, easier to r...
I like the idea that t51 is for paladins and higher, while t60 is for the ranks below paladin
candid spire
It’s cool the enclave isn’t dead
wraith plume
INTO EACH LIGHT
vernal matrix
I literally just saw him breakdown and break a toilet
id do that too if i had to shovel shit for an entire day
fallow flower
It’s cool the enclave isn’t dead
I think it's canon, correct me if I'm wrong, the enclave may exist up in canada right?
quiet depot
id do that too if i had to shovel shit for an entire day
By the way it's shot I think he's always on latrine duty
fallow flower
Or am I stupid
candid spire
Imagine if what the scientist is carrying is a component of zax or his base code
vernal matrix
I think it's canon, correct me if I'm wrong, the enclave may exist up in canada...
no mention, but there is a chicago outpost
fallow flower
Imagine if what the scientist is carrying is a component of zax or his base code
A scientist with the modus ai
candid spire
I think it's canon, correct me if I'm wrong, the enclave may exist up in canada...
Ooh I can’t say I don’t know anything about that sorry
vernal matrix
By the way it's shot I think he's always on latrine duty
oof, that cant be good for your health, physically AND mentally wise
ornate arrow
I like the idea that t51 is for paladins and higher, while t60 is for the ranks ...
I like the idea that it's used as showpeices yk, strike fear more than usage
candid spire
A scientist with the modus ai
Wasn’t modus just limited to WV? Raven Rock n such only had the zax president iirc
vernal matrix
honestly, ngl, maximus' devotion to BOS is quite genuine.
fallow flower
honestly, ngl, maximus' devotion to BOS is quite genuine.
This brotherhood felt a bit TOO religious
quiet depot
Did he plant the razor shoe D:
fallow flower
But hey what do I know
vernal matrix
Did he plant the razor shoe D:
no, its hinted the hazers did and framed maximus
but it backfired on them
quiet depot
no, its hinted the hazers did and framed maximus
but it backfired on them
Good goooooood
Fuck the hazers
sinful niche
they nailed it. I wasn't expecting the show to be that good but damn
ornate arrow
I think it's just leaning more Into that tech cult side than the games do
vernal matrix
They mentioned the commonwealth tho
yeah a pro bos ending is confirmed
candid spire
I kinda get the religious turn for the brotherhood. Maxon made it out to be a holy mission in the commonwealth and if the bos won it’d turn into strong fanaticism
sinful niche
What was the enclave-bos thing? Are they tracking an enclave runaway?
vernal matrix
What was the enclave-bos thing? Are they tracking an enclave runaway?
yeah
fallow flower
yeah a pro bos ending is confirmed
So it's POSSIBLE, the sole survivor is on the prydwen we see
Or maybe they're still stationed in the commonwealth
quiet depot
This shows pretty fuckong good so far man all my doubts are put the window
candid spire
Why would they leave the commonwealth
fallow flower
Why would they leave the commonwealth
Idk, they work for the brotherhood why not
vernal matrix
So it's POSSIBLE, the sole survivor is on the prydwen we see
if its a pro-bos ending, then the sole survivor is definitley a paladin on the prydwen
or at least a knight
fallow flower
if its a pro-bos ending, then the sole survivor is definitley a paladin on the p...
Better be with dogmeat
cyan schooner
This brotherhood felt a bit TOO religious
just right
candid spire
True. I personally think they’d make him/her stay in the commonwealth since they’re a natural leader
fallow oar
Shows gas 
cyan schooner
I'm happy they didn't make them more tame
and they went all in on the culty aspect
vernal matrix
I'm happy they didn't make them more tame
agreed
woeful hemlock
a feral ghoul can't abide a chicken 
candid spire
Yeah. The elders are terrifying
fallow flower
But real quick, is nate considered canon
candid spire
Reminds me of the religious prep schools irl
fallow flower
Yeah. The elders are terrifying
No mention of maxson 
cyan schooner
cuz they're able to show a lot of these things that can't be shown too well in games
vernal matrix
But real quick, is nate considered canon
no, but chances are, its nate not nora
cyan schooner
They mentioned the commonwealth tho
ok so i wasn't hallucinating when i saw it the other day
hell yeah pro bos ending for fo4
proven rivet
Reminds me of the religious prep schools irl
im going to hell i read that as "reminds me of the religious prep school girl"
manic trench
I don't think any of you are there yet but just a reminder once you start it and wanna keep talking #1225377176770314362
woeful hemlock
I'm happy they didn't make them more tame
indeed. the BoS has always been full of zealots. the fervor just depends on which game you've played
vernal matrix
I hope it’s Nora
the fact that we dont need power armor training in fo4 kinda hints that its nate as the sole survivor, not nora
fallow flower
no, but chances are, its nate not nora
I mean, the idea of power armor training makes sense. And nate would 100% have power armor training since he was a power armor operator
candid spire
im going to hell i read that as "reminds me of the religious prep school girl"
Ewwwwww
fallow flower
Another question, why is the enclave runaway headed to navaro
vernal matrix
I mean, the idea of power armor training makes sense. And nate would 100% have p...
yeah and then we get into the whole american societal aspects in the cold war etc etc
fallow flower
Guys are vault 33 and 32 connected ?
candid spire
the fact that we dont need power armor training in fo4 kinda hints that its nate...
True. I love them both but I’m headcanonning nora
fallow flower
Guys are vault 33 and 32 connected ?
I’m confused
proven rivet
Another question, why is the enclave runaway headed to navaro
did they say that in EP1
cyan schooner
I’m confused
they are
fallow flower
Another question, why is the enclave runaway headed to navaro
This is a lie
Ok interesting
candid spire
Yeah wtf was that about. Is 31 attached to them too? That’s so weird
fallow flower
This first episode is amazing
fallow flower
did they say that in EP1
No I was lying lol
cyan schooner
it seems like the experiment with vaults 31, 32, and 33 is that they're connected
based on lucy's dad coming from 31
fallow flower
This episode is amazing wow.
woeful hemlock
it seems like the experiment with vaults 31, 32, and 33 is that they're connecte...
that's what i think too
fallow flower
It’s so lore accurate
vernal matrix
True. I love them both but I’m headcanonning nora
nora is in the fo4 steam banner so her being the canon sole survivor is not out of question
cyan schooner
It’s so lore accurate
yep
candid spire
Never heard of connected vaults like that
fallow flower
I can’t believe they actually stuck with the source marrrial
cyan schooner
love it
fallow flower
based on lucy's dad coming from 31
So 31 and 32 are dead, 33 is all that's left
I assume
cyan schooner
I'll need to go pick up from episode 3
fallow flower
Honestly this is one of the best things in the Fallout franchise
cyan schooner
i got a 2 episode headstart lmao
candid spire
nora is in the fo4 steam banner so her being the canon sole survivor is not out ...
Do you think they’ll confirm it? If we see the SS I’d literally scream
vernal matrix
Do you think they’ll confirm it? If we see the SS I’d literally scream
oh hell naw they wont
fallow flower
There will be a fallout video game soon on the west coast no doubt
fallow flower
Do you think they’ll confirm it? If we see the SS I’d literally scream
They wouldn't do that lol
candid spire
😭
candid spire
I wish Todd loved me
fallow oar
candid spire
Hot
fallow flower
But seriously
cyan schooner
I loved don't fence me in
fallow flower
I'm just upset no t51
cyan schooner
when they played it
candid spire
The music choice is so good
vernal matrix
can anyone explain the 10 vault floors? it was shown when lucy was exiting the vault
candid spire
I hope they show other armour types. Seen nothing other than 60 in the marketing though
cobalt jasper
okay with NCR missing in action and BoS running wild in their territory with no Legion present, are we to assume NV concluded with something of a neutral ending where the two factions beat the crap out of each other?
fallow flower
I hope they show other armour types. Seen nothing other than 60 in the marketing...
If we don't see a single advanced power armor suit, imma be angy
fallow flower
okay with NCR missing in action and BoS running wild in their territory with no ...
Ncr isn't in la?
vernal matrix
I hope they show other armour types. Seen nothing other than 60 in the marketing...
prob not. same reason why marines dont get shiny new things like army. theyre probably keeping the good PA in DC/Commonwealth and sending T60 to less important stations
fallow flower
Rightm
candid spire
Tesla armour PLEASE
vernal matrix
If we don't see a single advanced power armor suit, imma be angy
SOLDIER, YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM
fallow flower
SOLDIER, YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM
cobalt jasper
pre NV NCR owned most of that area. Only exception probably bein san fran where Shi are
fallow flower
So then...
What they just died off?
Because vault 33s entrance was at LA boardwalk
candid spire
Died from the flu
vernal matrix
What they just died off?
it was kinda hinted that the NCR was in a state of decline in FNV
fallow flower
it was kinda hinted that the NCR was in a state of decline in FNV
Still though, 750k citizens
They'd still have SUBSTANTIAL power
loud haven
Why am I getting so many Fallout 3 vibes from the dad
ivory yarrow
But still, BoS was in upswing
cobalt jasper
honestly that's an interesting story angle for them to weave East BoS in with
vernal matrix
Still though, 750k citizens
currency was busted, economy was ran purely on expansionism, droughts were predicted to happen, corruption was rampant...thats a lot of anti-country factors
ivory yarrow
They mentioned the commonwealth
candid spire
If the NCR gain power we’ll just end up with prewar America and end the world again
fallow flower
The dad killed it
Probably an ex raider
Based on how he ruthlessly killed that one guy
And that other raider lady knew him
ivory yarrow
currency was busted, economy was ran purely on expansionism, droughts were predi...
For real. LA is a literal desert
fallow oar
the shovel swing says a lot
vernal matrix
Probably an ex raider
maybe not, its hinted that the pip boy woman killed his wife
proven rivet
then how did he get into the vault
cobalt jasper
2nd battle of Hoover Dam depleted both NCR and Legion armies heavily, Kimball either got tossed over the dam or people rioted. BoS saw opportunity and tippy toed back in from the East
fallow flower
maybe not, its hinted that the pip boy woman killed his wife
Or she knew them both
loud haven
then how did he get into the vault
And how did no one know he was a Raider
And how is he overseer lol
ivory yarrow
And how did no one know he was a Raider
Easy story, Raider fell in love
dude knew whats uo
*up
fallow flower
And how did no one know he was a Raider
He may have snuck into 33 ages ago and hid, seeing as 32 was dead
Maybe 31 was too
vernal matrix
do you think theyll make the father character into another frankie from 76?
loud haven
But how is he the overseer of the vault
cobalt jasper
honestly i suspect it's more of a mother and we may've already seen her
vernal matrix
honestly i suspect it's more of a mother and we may've already seen her
we do, shes in a flashback
fallow flower
But how is he the overseer of the vault
Oldest, worked his way up
woeful hemlock
then how did he get into the vault
they could have simply let him in. ||in fo3 that's how james got in a vault||
ivory yarrow
my theory was raiders got into 32 long before. Killed everyone and threw the dude into 33 to get him to open it but he fell in love and didn't do it
vernal matrix
they could have simply let him in. ||in fo3 that's how james got in a vault||
yeah but james had the knowledge of being a doctor to offer, what did the father have to offer to the vault
fallow flower
I mean the way he fought showed some CLEAR experience
Guys did Dane do it ?
He drowned homeboy ruthlessly
woeful hemlock
yeah but james had the knowledge of being a doctor to offer, what did the father...
that is what i'm wondering and i've been curious about when he got taken
loud haven
I mean the way he fought showed some CLEAR experience
Again, this shit feels like fallout 3 lol
woeful hemlock
Again, this shit feels like fallout 3 lol
time to save pa again
vernal matrix
Again, this shit feels like fallout 3 lol
with hints of fo4 lol
fallow flower
Again, this shit feels like fallout 3 lol
Dad go missing in wasteland, kid follow
Did Maximus put the razor in the boot or was it someone else lmao
ivory yarrow
Again, this shit feels like fallout 3 lol
Does feel like they got some inspiration from it
vernal matrix
$100 dad sacrifices himself
loud haven
Dad go missing in wasteland, kid follow
Dad turns out to be evil
fallow flower
Meh prob not
rapid maple
Please I’m wondering about the razor too
ivory yarrow
Dad turns out to be evil
100%
vernal matrix
Please I’m wondering about the razor too
hazing boys did it to frame maximus, plan backfired
loud haven
It’s literally fallout 3 
woeful hemlock
it seems like max was set up by the rest of those assholes and he didn't actually do it
fallow flower
🤤
ivory yarrow
WHO PUT THE RAZOR IN THE SHOE.
The dude that gets eaten but the radbear
fallow flower
🤤
manic trench
@fallow flower no meme
rapid maple
hazing boys did it to frame maximus, plan backfired
Oh ty
cyan schooner
Why am I getting so many Fallout 3 vibes from the dad
your dad left go find him
fallow flower
We are going to get a new fallout soon
For sure a teaser within three months. My dad is TODD HOWARD.
vernal matrix
We are going to get a new fallout soon
nah, 5 isnt coming for a least another century
fallow flower
nah, 5 isnt coming for a least another century
No dude my dad is Todd Howard
fallow flower
We are going to get a new fallout soon
Todd kicked his space fixation finally, maybe we'll get one soon
vernal matrix
No dude my dad is Todd Howard
my dad is the CEO of bethesda chump
fallow flower
We’re getting a teaser soon. And it’s based on my relationship with my father (Todd Howard)
vernal matrix
get banned
loud haven
Isn’t the ghoul’s last name Howard?
fallow flower
Shut
loud haven
vernal matrix
Isn’t the ghoul’s last name Howard?
no its goggins
fallow flower
It isn't
Fallout 5 will be about my relationship with my father.
Waltuh goggins
Screenshot this it’s true
woeful hemlock
i love that walter goggins is in this. i'm super excited to watch the rest
vernal matrix
waltuh, we need to nuke
fallow flower
waltuh, we need to nuke
Waltuh we need to hide on our oil rig waltuh
loud haven
i love that walter goggins is in this. i'm super excited to watch the rest
He’s already fucking killing it
woeful hemlock
he always does
fallow flower
We need to rebuild America from mutants waltuh
vernal matrix
its interesting that walter was in the army, do you think we'll get flashbacks of alaska/china?
woeful hemlock
i'd love that, but who knows
loud haven
its interesting that walter was in the army, do you think we'll get flashbacks o...
Fuck I hope so
fallow flower
Where is your power armor waltuh!
loud haven
I want to see Alaska so bad
fallow flower
I'm done now
vernal matrix
Fuck I hope so
goggins goes to san fran, gets ptsd
fallow flower
goggins goes to san fran, gets ptsd
Thousand yard stare
loud haven
goggins goes to san fran, gets ptsd
I want to see his ghoulification
vernal matrix
Thousand yard stare
"what dya mean the chinese still exist"
vernal matrix
I want to see his ghoulification
that would be nasty
fallow flower
"what dya mean the chinese still exist"
The fyuckin shi?
vernal matrix
The fyuckin shi?
bro starts going on a rampage in chinatown before being subdued
loud haven
that would be nasty
I am curious about his daughter though… it’s apparent that she died (assumingly) but why didn’t she turn into a ghoul too?
vernal matrix
honestly considering he had 219 years of backstory that could actually be a possibility
fallow flower
bro starts going on a rampage in chinatown before being subdued
"Where them commie nukin fyuckers at!"
quiet depot
COOPER IS EVIL KARMA FUCK YES
vernal matrix
I am curious about his daughter though… it’s apparent that she died (assumingly)...
luck of the draw i guess
fallow flower
Oh I just know him as waltuh
quiet depot
Don't they call him Cooper in the opening
vernal matrix
"Where them commie nukin fyuckers at!"
"dem commies have invaded blessed merica"
vernal matrix
Don't they call him Cooper in the opening
could be that goggins adopted a new persona
loud haven
I remember someone saying Mr Howard
vernal matrix
or maybe a twin?
fallow flower
"dem commies have invaded blessed merica"
He's gonna get shot in the nuts by the fallout django.
woeful hemlock
I am curious about his daughter though… it’s apparent that she died (assumingly)...
there's really no rhyme or reason to why people turn into ghouls. in 4 they made it a little more predictable i guess (hancock, winters)
vernal matrix
He's gonna get shot in the nuts by the fallout django.
shi laser incinerates his privates
loud haven
there's really no rhyme or reason to why people turn into ghouls. in 4 they made...
Yeah I was gonna say… I don’t believe the franchise has ever addressed it
fallow flower
shi laser incinerates his privates
"I count 6 charges."
"I count 2 laser guns."
loud haven
Just “severe radiation”
vernal matrix
"I count 6 charges."
"I count 2 laser guns."
"I count six shots"
"bish we have t51 pa ur tiny ass revolver aint gonna do sht"
woeful hemlock
Yeah I was gonna say… I don’t believe the franchise has ever addressed it
not that i can recall. only in 4 did they make up ways for people to purposely become ghouls
fallow flower
"I count six shots"
"bish we have t51 pa ur tiny ass revolver aint gonna do sht"
Me when no mention of mojave brotherhood
The Mojave better be mentioned dammit
vernal matrix
hopefully
quiet depot
Fuck it I'm gonna watch ep2
vernal matrix
obviously
vernal matrix
ncr winning makes sense. it would accelerate ncr downfall due to ncr getting more ambitious, which in turn would lead to the setting of the show
woeful hemlock
boone soloed the legion with his rage. courier became the side kick that day
fallow flower
ncr winning makes sense. it would accelerate ncr downfall due to ncr getting mor...
Also no legion
So they got wiped out
I hope
vernal matrix
So they got wiped out
meh legion gets wiped out anyways due to caesars tumor
woeful hemlock
ncr winning makes sense. it would accelerate ncr downfall due to ncr getting mor...
they set it up pretty well in NV that the NCR was far over reaching anyway, so it makes sense
vernal matrix
boone soloed the legion with his rage. courier became the side kick that day
courirer getting ptsd from the surprise boone headshot
fallow flower
I'd have no problem with the legion, if they weren't sexist and slavers
manic trench
his name is Cooper Howard yes
vernal matrix
I'd have no problem with the legion, if they weren't sexist and slavers
"id having no problem with the confederacy, if they werent traitors and slavers" lol
fallow flower
courirer getting ptsd from the surprise boone headshot
"Hey boone where you at-"
QUICK ZOOMS THE EXPLODING HEAD
"oh"
fallow flower
"id having no problem with the confederacy, if they werent traitors and slavers"...
I'd have no problem with the confederacy if they weren't the confederacy
Fuck traitors
All my homies hate traitors
woeful hemlock
I'd have no problem with the legion, if they weren't sexist and slavers
exactly. i think they are scum and i kill them every time, but they were certainly strong in certain areas. i like how raul points out that they bring order and before they set up shop you couldn't even walk down the road without getting jumped by raiders. they still gotta die though
vernal matrix
exactly. i think they are scum and i kill them every time, but they were certain...
legion assassin party? you mean free caps?
fallow flower
legion assassin party? you mean free caps?
Free xp
I console command my caps because im lazy
vernal matrix
traders going home to ncr with a boatload of centurion armor
vernal matrix
I console command my caps because im lazy
i console command vault suits
fallow flower
WHERE ENCLAVE
Bro that chicken was so badass, do u think we’ll see more of him ?
ME WANT SEE ENCLAVE
vernal matrix
~~i console command vault suits~~
only real ones know that that means
fallow flower
Really want to an enclave soldier vs a knight
I think we will see chicken again, no way they left him on screen for that long
Advanced power armor vs t60 would go hard
vernal matrix
I think we will see chicken again, no way they left him on screen for that long
bro that chicken was goated
fallow flower
Fr I love that cock
vernal matrix
ayo
woeful hemlock
Really want to an enclave soldier vs a knight
that would be fun. i hope they make the enclave suitably awful and creepy like they were in FO2
fallow flower
The chicken is a recurring character
fallow flower
that would be fun. i hope they make the enclave suitably awful and creepy like t...
Please god no frank horrigan clone
vernal matrix
My dad is Todd Howard
my dad is bill gates
vernal matrix
Is that the saber from reach lmaoooo
bro ur like the 10th guy to say that
woeful hemlock
Please god no frank horrigan clone
time to die, mutie i just remember getting into a random encounter where an enclave group was just mowing down farmers and stuff. it was brutal, like in the opening. i hope they have some of that in this show
vernal matrix
Imma vomit
is that a good thing or a bad thing
fo4 design was disgusting
in a good way
fallow flower
is that a good thing or a bad thing
I prefer classic ghoul design
Those ghouls felt to
Gross
vernal matrix
I prefer classic ghoul design
new designs feel more corpse imo
fallow flower
vernal matrix
old designs feel more rot
fallow flower
Hear me out
First ghoul encounter
Jason brightburn
Or whatever his name was
Was it just Jason bright
woeful hemlock
rocket guy?
fallow flower
Yeah
vernal matrix
First ghoul encounter
hear me out
dunwich borers
fallow flower
He starts talking with waltuh
Waltuh doesn't wanna hear his cult crap
Shoots him
Queue viziepop humor joke
vernal matrix
bro waltuh would have a crisis in fo2
he wouldnt know whether to shoot the hubologist cultists or the chinese shi lol
woeful hemlock
decisions, decisions
fallow flower
Hubology is a perfect mock of scientology
This show is so lore accurate im surprised
fallow flower
This show is so lore accurate im surprised
Still no t51
Me angy
Like it goes out of its way to be true to the source material
Imma say what people wanna day
Say*
coral jolt
From the first episode I'm putting Lucy Special stats as.
S:4 P:6 E:5 C:4 I:7 A:6 L:8
coral jolt
This is a good episode.
vernal matrix
From the first episode I'm putting Lucy Special stats as.
S:4 P:6 E:5 C:4 I:7 A...
s: 6, p: 2, e: 5, c: 6, i: 9, a: 3, l: 8
coral jolt
Barley.
fallow flower
Enclave remnants saved their ass canon
Lol
This is random but why doesn’t anyone talk about how Caesar was an NCR citizen in New Vegas, I feel like that’s a pretty important thing for them to not acknoedge
coral jolt
What I got out of New Vegas neither faction can actually secure the dam.
fallow flower
It’s like if a random doctor in America started his own empire in Mexico
Also, wtf happened to vertibird models between 3/NV and 4
vernal matrix
Also, wtf happened to vertibird models between 3/NV and 4
different models
fallow flower
It’s like if a random doctor in America started his own empire in Mexico
Waltuh...
vernal matrix
fo4 models are more like blackhawks, fo3 models are more like mi-8 hinds
coral jolt
Oh by the way is there different faction of brotherhood of steel west to east?
solid axle
So happy to see the BOS get portrayed as bad guys in the show, I totally though they were going to be BOS agenda pushers
fallow flower
So happy to see the BOS get portrayed as bad guys in the show, I totally though ...
I wouldn't say bad guys
coral jolt
More neutral bad.
fallow flower
More like
vernal matrix
So happy to see the BOS get portrayed as bad guys in the show, I totally though ...
how is the bos the bad guy in the show? theyre still neutral
fallow flower
Lawful evil?
vernal matrix
no, lawful neutral
fallow flower
True neutral maybe
vernal matrix
they havent done anything bad yet
the only evil people in the story so far are the raiders
coral jolt
You right in that.
fallow flower
They don't really care about anything but the brotherhood and tech
vernal matrix
and the hazers
fallow flower
So maybe true neutral
solid axle
it’s very culty and weird, they just are making the tone of the BOS out to be with evil hoenstly
vernal matrix
but theres a reason why theyre still applicants and not squires yet
fallow flower
Like enclave is lawful evil because it's the government
coral jolt
Not evil but more not my problem.
vernal matrix
BOS seems very lawful neutral
Vault is lawful good
Goggins is chaotic neutral
Raiders are chaotic evil
fallow flower
They still had elected leaders and such
civic kayak
what was up with the BOS? are they the western brotherhood, or are they the eastern brotherhood that took over the western brotherhood?
civic kayak
or something else entirely
coral jolt
s: 6, p: 2, e: 5, c: 6, i: 9, a: 3, l: 8
I can see that but Lucy handle herself in that first brawl.
vernal matrix
what was up with the BOS? are they the western brotherhood, or are they the east...
western BOS that aligns with Eastern bos
fallow flower
Not much has changed
vernal matrix
I can see that but Lucy handle herself in that first brawl.
yeah thats why its s:6
above average
fallow flower
western BOS that aligns with Eastern bos
I'd guess the brotherhood has mostly united
Except midwest
Which is possibly still truced with enclave
solid axle
okay but putting irradiated people in camps/chambers to experiment on them is literally what the enclave do
they are n*zis
Their party had elections too
vernal matrix
I'd guess the brotherhood has mostly united
yeah, maxson kinda united the entirety of the bos
vernal matrix
Except midwest
bethesda seems to be distancing themselves from midwest BOS
fallow flower
I like the idea the midwest is its own thing
solid axle
Good thing fallout tactics is half canon
fallow flower
They keep in contact but don't take orders from them
coral jolt
I should play fallout 1 and 2.
fallow flower
Or atleast a cease fire
fallow flower
Idk man
I just like the idea the midwest is off limits because the midwest enclave and brotherhood are their own thing now
But I do have a serious question
Why do people say enclave is facist
Like yes they evil
But they have elections and stuff right?
So it's like, something else in itself?
loud haven
Like yes they evil
I think you just answered your own question lol
fallow flower
But still
You cant just say they evil so they facist
Facism is a whole thing I don't have time to explain
You wouldn't say the communists are fascist, right?
This isn't me defending anything I'm just genuinely curious btw
I'm not an enclave apologist I swear
solid axle
The n*zi party was a government party that got elected into German office
fallow flower
Yeah but then they stopped elections and did like dictatorship stuff
Doesn't the enclave still have elections and stuff
Or am I miss remembering
solid axle
I don’t remember seeing anywhere that they do or don’t
My enclave lore isn’t as solid but all I know is they threw irradiated people into cells/chambers to experiment on them, the whole purpose of the enclave in fallout 2 is they wanted to eradicate everybody who was “unpure”
fallow flower
Okay straight from the horses mouth
"Richardson specifically referred to himself as the elected leader of the United States, but how democratic that election actually was is left up to interpretation. The Fallout Bible paints a particularly undemocratic picture, with Richardson winning the Presidency through the direct influence of his father, who was the President before him."
And it wasn't unpure
They wanted to kill anyone the considered mutated
Which was everyone lol
solid axle
well yeah, same thing
lucid linden
This show is butiful man the t60 behind maximus telling him to speak and is cold
fallow flower
I still want t51 and I will whine about it until I see a suit
Or atleast a Helmet
solid axle
is Dane trans btw
fallow flower
No idea
fallow flower
is Dane trans btw
Could just be a really skinny dude
solid axle
just wondering idrc either way
lucid linden
Yea
solid axle
alright for sure, thought so
fallow flower
Also, doesn't the brotherhood not recruit like that or something?
solid axle
fallow flower
I swear their recruitment process was more so indoctrination in origin
These people seemed to have joined up from outside the brotherhood
lucid linden
The goryness is 100% fallout bro just over the top and perfect
fallow flower
Because everytime a player character was recruited it was like "oh this is rare you have a great deal of recommendation." And stuff
Anyway it's midnight I have classes and have to wake up at 6am
Been great talking with yall
Imma go to sleep
Take care guys
solid axle
I think the BOS in the show is kind of covering all of the BOS lore in the games all into 1 but I could be wrong, there was something said in episode 1 I can’t remember but it irked me I’ll have to go back and watch
lucid linden
Bit that made me laugh was that guy getting drowned in a pickle barrel
solid axle
Peace
errant loom
Episode 1 was pretty ight, it was just the cousins shit and homeboy wanking it that kinda just ruined it for me
vernal matrix
Episode 1 was pretty ight, it was just the cousins shit and homeboy wanking it t...
tbf, thats kinda expected in a closed vault after 219 years
fortunately it produced no offspring
errant loom
tbf, thats kinda expected in a closed vault after 219 years
it was something I never thought about tbh but even then, I feel it didn't really serve a purpose to include it in the first place but it is what it is
vernal matrix
ntm p much all of the applicants in the BOS are teenagers, it would make sense for them to have a ton of hormones
vernal matrix
it was something I never thought about tbh but even then, I feel it didn't reall...
it was never bought up because there was never a truly closed vault
lucid linden
Yea it rlly rlly yknow went with that whole wanking part lol
But yea it makes sence
vernal matrix
i dont think they shouldve added the wanking but its not out of place
lucid linden
You see the two kids smokeing lol
vernal matrix
You see the two kids smokeing lol
theyre in a high stress environment
errant loom
I like the fact about the Ghoul and the chicken, honestly thought that was interesting
errant loom
You see the two kids smokeing lol
Nah, I didnt catch that
vernal matrix
Nah, I didnt catch that
they were on a watchtower i think
it was at the beginning of maximus' segment and when the caswennan came into view
fallow flower
it was never bought up because there was never a truly closed vault
There is one
lucid linden
theyre in a high stress environment
Yea ofc
vernal matrix
There is one
which one
vernal matrix
which vault?
vivid rain
I absolutely love that they’re leaning more into the techno priest aspect of the BoS that gets implied in fallout 1 and 2
fallow flower
Or maybe it was 63
It's either vault 29 or 63 that are still closed
Anyway the lore in me has been settled
vernal matrix
vault 29 was harolds vault, they opened in 2090
fallow flower
I try to sleep now
fallow flower
vault 29 was harolds vault, they opened in 2090
What about 63?
vernal matrix
What about 63?
residents died out before fallout 76 happened
vernal matrix
no its opened, at least according to the fallout wiki
wait
nvm
unless vault raids are decanonized
wait no
im stupid
yeah vault 63 is still closed
ur right
fallow flower
"It is not currently possible to open the Vault 63 door or officially access its interior without using glitches. The interior and most of its assets have"
Yeah
Okay now.that my lore brain is satisfied
I sleep
vernal matrix
wait
fallow flower
What
fallow flower
The fucking what?
fallow flower
The fuck is that skyrim looking thing
vernal matrix
fallow flower
63 is going to be opened
I never said it wasn't
I just said right now from what we now
vernal matrix
fair enough
fallow flower
If anyone gets lore incorrect again I'll be summoned
I have spidersense for this shit
vernal matrix
BOS LOST TO THE ENCLAVE !!!11!!!!1!!!
gentle shale
fallow flower
BRUH WHAT
manic trench
@fallow flower #1225377176770314362
coral jolt
I'm getting Ready or Not vibes.
ripe juniper
So is the chicken stuff gonna be a part of ghoul lore?
Also I wonder if this is exactly how Vault 3 went down
pine nimbus
i didnt expect that gun in mouth kill
ripe juniper
Im suprised by how brutal this show is
pine nimbus
im not that surprised but i love it
ripe juniper
I mean I knew it was gonna have gore and stuff but now nearly the amount of creative kills
candid spire
Man I’m going over the pics I took of the episode and the opening scene terrifies me. It’s so different to the fast paced action cinema usually pumps out
earnest pollen
So if the prydwen is back, what fo4 ending is canon
ripe juniper
I dont think its the Prydwen but they did reference the Commonwealth BoS right?
pine nimbus
god the ghoul is amazing
tidal sapphire
The Commonwealth bos issued that order to find the enclave guy
candid spire
Maybe the bos will start to spread themselves too thin
It’s funny they did that weird connect the lines kinda bounty for the scientist. Don’t fax machines exist in universe?
twilit grail
I dunno why
But they introduced the ghoul in a weird way
They got him out of a coffin n shit
manic trench
It was a way to explain how he's still around after 219 years
implying he's kind of "hibernating"
ripe tiger
oh great make a pun about how I like the beginning of the Fallout series as well as the game setting and....ugh...unintentionally doing something completely different
twilit grail
So I dont think he would of needed to be in that coffin for 219 years
manic trench
well the guy is like "my dad brings him out every couple years or so"
so it's like he's there for awhile, gets brought up for a job
ripe tiger
yeah, I know.
candid spire
They got him out of a coffin n shit
What a fucked up torture though. Can you imagine the mental state after being revived for only a short while once a year
Well not revived just let out
People already on episode 8 is insane lol
twilit grail
Yea I heard
manic trench
Don't talk about anything in episodes past 1 in this thread
candid spire
I’m not. Haven’t even watched 2
manic trench
This was referring to a deleted message and a reminder
candid spire
Oooh someone was naughty
west lion
dang I got oilers this early, that ruined the experience then D:
ripe tiger
That was my fault. It was basically a pun and useful play on words to say, they started the series strong as well as use the games setting and not the series
manic trench
It wasn't you
ripe tiger
wait...what?
west lion
Yeah, wasn't you
ripe tiger
Well I feel stupid.
west lion
It's okay, don't worry about it
manic trench
No worries just keep along
placid vine
I'm really impressed by how well they conveyed the anxiety of life in 2077 at the start here
Like, it's what Fallout 4's intro should've been
placid vine
I'm done the whole 1st episode btw, but I'm now rewatching it
I prefer not to binge this too hard
manic trench
that sounds nice
I saw the first 2 episodes on sunday at a screening but I watched them again along with a friend to talk to someone about it
placid vine
When I saw that airship I was deeply concerned it would be the Prydwen, that they were invalidating 2 (and a half) of 4's endings
But I don't think it is
The only thing I don't love about the TV show so far is how we're inching closer to 2300
west lion
When I saw that airship I was deeply concerned it would be the Prydwen, that the...
It's impressive how huge the BOS grew from FO3
placid vine
I want the next game to go back some years
placid vine
It's impressive how huge the BOS grew from FO3
Well, this is west coast
By New Vegas the Wasteland Survival Guide has travelled all the way west, but the West Coast BoS isn't doing any better for their successes on the east
I wonder how they'll explain the recovery
Because this doesn't feel like the trajectory they were headed in NV
west lion
I wonder how they'll explain the recovery
Maxson must've travelled west then
west lion
Because this doesn't feel like the trajectory they were headed in NV
Hoping NCR isn't just a fraction of what they used to be as well
placid vine
Maxson must've travelled west then
Truly, truly hoping not
If this series invalidates player choice I'm gonna be deeply annoyed
2 and a half of 4's endings have Maxson dead
Railroad, Institute and optionally Minutemen
Bethesda would be foolish to invalidate the majority of players' decisions
tidal sapphire
Doesn't the ncr lady in the trailer look like the lady raider
manic trench
The goal was to keep as much vague as possible
west lion
Doesn't the ncr lady in the trailer look like the lady raider
Haven't noticed
placid vine
The goal was to keep as much vague as possible
It's def a hard line to walk
I haven't seen all the trailers
candid spire
I'm really impressed by how well they conveyed the anxiety of life in 2077 at th...
Yeah honestly. It was so tense for such a simple scene
manic trench
Also it doesn't excuse anyone from breaking the rules but just be mindful of asking questions that might be answerable later in the season and some random might come in and directly answer you
placid vine
I got you
manic trench
Like we can delete it and mute them, but you'd still see it ya know
placid vine
Yeah honestly. It was so tense for such a simple scene
At the risk of repeating myself, it's exactly what Fo4 should've had
candid spire
When I saw that airship I was deeply concerned it would be the Prydwen, that the...
Not invalidating just confirming canon
Yeah def. I hope if they do prewar they include some of those aspects
placid vine
Not invalidating just confirming canon
When you have 4 (5?) endings, confirming canon is invalidating player choice
That's why TES has dragon breaks
candid spire
I feel like that opinion puts devs into an impossible situation with new material
placid vine
I feel like that opinion puts devs into an impossible situation with new materia...
Not really, they would do well exploring more regions and years
manic trench
It's a tough place to be in but I think their goals are always to be vague whenever possible as it pertains to any form of media in the stories
candid spire
Ye damn 😦
manic trench
But with covering so much ground in these large groups of people sometimes things happen
But again reminder be wary about asking these kinds of things
placid vine
I think it's more of an opportunity to tell more unique stories than a hurdle
manic trench
Also it doesn't excuse anyone from breaking the rules but just be mindful of ask...
^
I don't want anyone to get themselves spoiled by accident because someone jumps on a hypothetical or a "I wonder if this happens"
candid spire
Oh shit well 😦
placid vine
I don't want anyone to get themselves spoiled by accident because someone jumps ...
I know the risk I'm taking, dw it's not on you if someone is an ass
manic trench
I'm doing my best to catch any rule breakers 
placid vine
west lion
argh, it's really hard to scratch that Fallout Lore itch
placid vine
We can't expect mods to do all the work
manic trench
You could go peek in 8 or just speed watch them before talking to anyone and then youll be covered
candid spire
God no thanks lol
candid spire
I think I might bite the bullet and break my rule. Ep 2 time
west lion
I think I might bite the bullet and break my rule. Ep 2 time
Ep. 2 is worth watching, break your rule muhahaha
west lion
Ok
ep 1 and 2 are worth watching then you can watch ep 3 next week if thats your plan
cause thats my plan currently as well
manic trench
1 and 2 work pretty great together
candid spire
That’s also good to know
candid spire
It was a good idea to keep the paladins in the suits in ep1. It gives them an inhuman quality. The the voice modulator, the stature and the fact they barely speak
jovial stirrup
Someone in the|| brotherhood camp before the razor in boot scene|| was stroking their shit did anyone else noticed that???
manic trench
lol yes
clear kestrel
Someone in the|| brotherhood camp before the razor in boot scene|| was stroking ...
I am very happy that this is the first and only spoiler I see cause thats hilarious
proven rivet
Someone in the|| brotherhood camp before the razor in boot scene|| was stroking ...
wait really
time stamp
plush steppe
the BoS has needs too
plush steppe
@eager lance
31 - 32 - 33
eager lance
Connected?
formal horizon
Wait were 31 and 32 both raided?
eager lance
Ohh
manic trench
Anything that doesn't happen in the episode should be discussed in the thread for that episode or later ones
formal horizon
I’ve only watched ep 1 so
manic trench
Just a reminder to the others who have seen more
formal horizon
Ah alr
plush steppe
I'm just mentioning the connection between tunnels.
Overseer is from 31, so I'm assuming that one is connected too.
strange arrow
So uhhh the brand that’s a fallout one thing?
manic trench
brand?
plush steppe
No, that's a TV show thing. We never get to see how they move between ranks.
strange arrow
Maximus gets the hand brand
strange arrow
No, that's a TV show thing. We never get to see how they move between ranks.
i like it
Gives my tech Nazis more character
plush steppe
the whole religious thing is in line with Fallout 1 tho
strange arrow
That’s what I suspected
Wasn’t the brotherhood a religious faction for tech but the later games moved away from that in a way?
plush steppe
not to the extent we see but
they're very religious, with their OFFICIAL history tapes containing terms like "Great Deliverer" "Holy Grail" and so on
manic trench
219
strange arrow
No it’s set in 2296
The show?
stark quail
Yes
strange arrow
So it’s after the fnv
stark quail
Yes it’s after everything
clear kestrel
No, that's a TV show thing. We never get to see how they move between ranks.
Well we do see it in 4 during the BoS ending
Its likely that different chapters just have different practices in how they promote someone
stark quail
It may come down to individual Elders too, they likely have different tactics from their predecessors/successors
radiant prairie
man this shit was so much better than i was expecting
like, i thought amazon was gonna skip alot of the shit, gore, pretty on point, humour, on point, little details like the ||junk gun|| and the melee weapons ,
my tism is fuckin loving this shit so much man
hushed obsidian
The gore 
radiant prairie
i was so worried that theyd nerf it too much to be fallout but damn, they really went "well the boys had gore and this is fallout so fuck it mate"
sudden urchin
It's not bad, I'd say a solid 7/10
radiant prairie
We nerding out
manic trench
neeeeerd
candid spire
Uh oh
merry lark
Its worth it trust me
candid spire
You shouldn’t talk about that stuff here
merry lark
No spoilers
candid spire
Up to you just saying I don’t think they’ll like it*
manic trench
Intro and Outro
manic trench
Intro and Outro
merry lark
How did you get those
manic trench
screencapped from prime
hushed obsidian
||Junk jet!||
merry lark
Oh right I’m on phone rn not my pc
hushed obsidian
merry lark
||Junk jet!||
Yep I loved the doll leg
crimson tiger
oh man episode 1 was awesome
i was worried it would have alot of comedy in it, and it had some but it also had alot of serious parts that thankfully didnt have haha le funny fall over in it
fallow flower
This episode was sweet
I can't tell which is my favorite part tbh, it's all amazing
candid river
im happy i was semi-right about the knighting ceremony
too bad it... wasnt a knighting ceremony
candid spire
Wdym
glad field
can someone gimme a bit of help on episode 1: || when the raiders caught the group they asked the father it’s them or her. so her dad put her in the room to protect her and they took her dad outside. then the rest of them were hooked to a bomb, they ran and got out safe. did the raiders just decide not to kill them and just let them go and then the raiders just left??|| why? i don’t fully understand
manic trench
Yes
plush steppe
can someone gimme a bit of help on episode 1: || when the raiders caught the gro...
The raiders outside were already mostly kaput. The second group left.
glad field
oh so they just left and let them|| live ||
plush steppe
It should be clearer once you learn more about who the lead woman was, and why she - and her raiders - weren't massacring the Vault.
glad field
oki doki thanks :))
plush steppe
If you look at the scenes you see there's raiders who are killing, and then there's a second group going down a corridor (they're also killing but they're a little more... disciplined?)
glad field
ah i see there were two groups
fallow flower
So does the Prydwen showing up mean that the minute men ending would've been canon for Fallout 4?
Not prydwen, diff ship iirc
old bough
Ahhhhhh the || junkjet||
manic trench
@frail narwhal
frail narwhal
Ah yes
many thanks
frail narwhal
There nothing that even describe waht the heck i just sawed
the intro
the new characters
the BoS
the final moment
EVEYRTHING IS PERFECT
manic trench
The intro stunning
frail narwhal
The intro is what fallout 4 intro is but better and more gut wrecking
i have no idea what is consider a spoiler or not though
jovial obsidian
So true goat intro
manic trench
You can talk about anything in here that happened in episode 1
frail narwhal
|| The fact that there are multiple faults connecting together made me question what is the big experiemnt that suppose to happen, i cant tell the experiement or make guesses ||
I literally thought || vault 33 or 32 was it, the one with the raiders was to highlight was people are likely gonna respond to people hostile environment and see the difference between the good environment with law and order while another being barbaric ||, but we all know now
golden merlin
So when did the bombs drop
Someone pointed out that if it was 9am est then it would be 6am pst, and a birthday party at 6am does not sound like what was presented
fallow flower
Is it ever known who put the razors in dane's boot?
junior flint
fallow flower
But why?
ornate arrow
Was the chicken to make sure he wasn't feral?
fallow flower
Was the chicken to make sure he wasn't feral?
yes
warm kiln
Hey, i just started watching a show ( btw enjoying it a LOT ) , I have a crazy theory i might update once i stop watching the series, i noticed this detail IMIDIETLY at the first eposide ( this is a re upload all the spoilers refer to ep 1, i didn't catch anything on ep 2 like this but if you did be sure to let me know )
So, I noticed that there is a sign of mutations being a thing in the tv show, im gonna elaborate in spoilers now.
|| When the raiders enter vault 32, the "husband" of lucy is called breeder by the "overseer of vault 32". 2 things that got my attention are :
- His body emits radiation, normally we dont see behaviour like this ever in the fo univese meaning they had to have some insane contact with radiation, but the display on the pip boy shows quite a large number"
- After he gets knocked down we can hear his thoat being sliced, later on we see a lot of blood but whats that ? His wounds are fine. Now, lets think about it for a second, i heavily doupt he had a stimpack, did he somehow walk out or find something quick enough ?
He got both kocked down and his throat cut, it makes me believe that mutations might be a thing in fallout show
||
Also I guess warning gore, anyways love the show
merry lark
After finishing the series, they don’t really touch up on that anymore on the scene in particular, so it’s up to you to decide
They do touch up more on mutations but not about the guy from the vault
Gotta use your own imagination for that I guess
warm kiln
I'm not talking about them specifically they are dead lol
merry lark
Oh I must of misunderstood
No, his wounds are not fine. His whole face is cut open near the end of the episode.
warm kiln
More so about the show in general I mean from what I saw from that scene, like surely that's intentional
merry lark
He probably took some psycho or jet or something that’s why it’s all jacked up
tidal sapphire
it look like it only cut his face badly
merry lark
Wait, what is your question again I don’t understand you’re asking how is he still alive after getting his throat cut?
warm kiln
No, his wounds are not fine. His whole face is cut open near the end of the epis...
That's the thing we see a clean cut going through the throat and he drowns extremely fast
tidal sapphire
like enough to kill a person but yet again this is fallout
merry lark
yeah good point I actually don’t know. Yeah, he should’ve died from that.
fallow flower
or it literally could've just been a mistake made by the show producers
manic trench
Also if you’re unaware head wounds bleed a LOT and might not necessarily be deadly
warm kiln
Another thing to make me belive that is we clearly see other ppl struggling with far less severe injuries
merry lark
Also, it weird to me the amount of radiation produced from him. That’s very abnormal for a normal person
Also, I don’t think his throat got cut because later on when he’s fighting Lucy, his throat looks fine. It was mostly his cheek area.
warm kiln
Also if you’re unaware head wounds bleed a LOT and might not necessarily be dead...
I know but I'm p sure that was a throat cut altho now that i think about it it wouldn't be deep?
merry lark
#yeah I think it just missed the throat barely yeah, near the end you can see his face is peeling off but no throat injury
warm kiln
Also, it weird to me the amount of radiation produced from him. That’s very abno...
I feel like her pip boy is just not configured
fallow flower
or it literally could've just been a mistake made by the show producers..?
warm kiln
Like we hear the counter go off in the wasteland and it's silent a few shots later it makes me belive she recalibrate it or it got auto calibrated
merry lark
I don’t think it’s about how it was calibrate I think the pip boys are perfectly fine. I think he just might’ve drank really irradiated water and you’ll see more of that and kind of explanation of that later on in the series I think on episode 4 or 3.
warm kiln
Like neck up the cheek area
I will check on the re watch but it's defo a interesting puzzle piece
merry lark
Yeah, episode four and five has an explanation of it
warm kiln
I don’t think it’s about how it was calibrate I think the pip boys are perfectly...
Alt then
I thought that the radiation was just a misscalibrated counter bc if that would be relative to game we would see her skin go red in a matter of seconds
Like we see in the intro when the bombs fell
merry lark
Yeah, the sounds are not very accurate Pipboys I think it’s a lot of just TV magic and game magic because in real life if a guy was showing those readings, it’s not dangerous at all but just for the sake of understanding normal radiation for normal people I think it’s fine
warm kiln
Yea I mean, I wish the intro pre war scene chose a different scenery
At the same time from the moment bombs fall, every frame can be a wall paper
merry lark
There’s gonna be a lot more pre-war scenes in the series don’t worry
warm kiln
Oh I don't doupt that
haughty verge
I just saw episode 1. Loved it
vague basalt
Just watched the first episode, only had 2 issues with it, one which I cannot talk about coz it's 2024... and the other is a nitpick, when Cooper mentioned the bombs and how to measure it with the thumb, 2 seconds later it happened, kinda silly. Some really bad actors in the vault, but overall, the show's great and I just checked the IMDb score, 8,7/10 - with 7k votes so that's already higher than The Walking Dead The Ones Who Lives, which ended ridiculously last week.
fallow flower
Just watched the first episode, only had 2 issues with it, one which I cannot ta...
what?
why can't you talk about the first one?
vague basalt
reasons
solemn hazel
it prolly is lmao
candid spire
Yikes and yuck
manic trench
Why even bring it up if you're refusing to elaborate lol
flat drift
Things that cant be talked about since its 2024
Likely rule breaking opinions 
My guess is female protagonist
But ngl given that its a drama about fallout, i can easily imagine the story being told better and/or easier using a female protagonist, rather than a male protagonist
So im down
manic trench
Can you imagine the internet outrage if they had a dumb guy vault dweller coming out all scaredy and innocent
candid spire
Men can be pretty insecure
I was thinking they were complaining about Dane but misogyny is super common too
vague basalt
all of these messages and I haven't said the reason, I wonder if I had...
I also mentioned other stuff like some poor actors in the vault, why is everyone focusing on the ONE thing that, just because it's 2024, no one can be against? I am against it, whatever it is I'm talking about and not disclosing, so what?
The worst actor, btw, it's Lucy's brother, what the hell is that guy?
vague basalt
Men can be pretty insecure
I had a 20 year old girlfriend when I was 13, we've been together for 14 years until last year, so idk about that if you're insinuating that to me, sorry if I got the wrong idea, though
craggy night
all of these messages and I haven't said the reason, I wonder if I had...
I also...
Because you brought it up as bait to see if someone agrees with potentially sexist or bigoted views.
Its a common tactic that people that have outdated views do as a callsign for unity and friendship, like the KKK
Or proud boys, or just incels, etc.
vague basalt
Because you brought it up as bait to see if someone agrees with potentially sexi...
I don't need anyone to agree with me, I know people don't, these days, but they don't, coz they can't!
craggy night
General snowflakes for a tldr, so of course people pick up on it.
vague basalt
if I needed that, I would've said the reason already, I need no approval of my convictions
craggy night
I don't need anyone to agree with me, I know people don't, these days, but they ...
They don't because the views are usually dumb as hell.
candid spire
Yikes
vague basalt
not being able to express an opinion to make the other opinion the only correct one, gotta love the present day and time
manic trench
Why in the world would you even say "oh I can't say this thing" just.. don't say the thing
craggy night
Stop living in the past and grow up instead, lmao
vague basalt
grow up into THIS future?
merry lark
Yah the only thing you aren’t balls enough to say is I guess you not liking a female protagonist LOL
vague basalt
nah, I prefer the past
candid spire
Lucy is amazing
merry lark
Lucy is a great cast
vague basalt
Yah the only thing you aren’t balls enough to say is I guess you not liking a fe...
haven't you seen my game screenshots? I would hate this show if it had a male protagonist
candid spire
Her catchphrase is so good too
craggy night
Either way,
merry lark
Then what in the world was the thing you could not say lol
craggy night
Since its pretty obvious what those views are, let's move on
vague basalt
I play as a girl, I'm a man, if I'm gonna play a 30 hours-long game, I rather look at a female protagonist
craggy night
This channel is about the TV show, not insecurities
vague basalt
not moronity either, back the hell off
merry lark
Oh wait was it the black people at the party?
Cause that’s the only other thing I can think of some very very few people having a problem with I guess
vague basalt
who's insecure here other than y'all who don't even have an opinion, but follow what you're told to follow?
vague basalt
Oh wait was it the black people at the party?
have you heard of Denzel Washington, Viola Davis, Morgan Freeman... I think I don't have anything AGAINST GOOD black actors, thank you
merry lark
What lol?
vague basalt
against, sorry
craggy night
I mean, we arent the ones huffing, puffing and crying over certain bits in a TV show, you are.
That seems a bit insecure since you cant even express your own opinion out of fear mate.
merry lark
OHHH
vague basalt
I mean, we arent the ones huffing, puffing and crying over certain bits in a TV ...
am I? I said it was good with only 2 little flaws, y'all are acting like kids question my opinions
craggy night
As I said, let's move on to fallout, if you want to snowflake do it on #news_and_discussion
merry lark
I know what it is, it’s the non-binary brotherhood person???
vague basalt
coz your opinions are the only right ones, and it's because people like me can't share their opinions that yours are the right ones lol
brittle crystal
coz your opinions are the only right ones, and it's because people like me can't...
dont think that was said at all
also dont think that was moving on
craggy night
vague basalt
As I said, let's move on to fallout, if you want to snowflake do it on <#5507436...
if I want to what? Talk like an adult, please, what is "snowflaking"?
craggy night
Not doing this, it's summertime, snowflakes are melting away
merry lark
brittle crystal
if I want to what? Talk like an adult, please, what is "snowflaking"?
I see thats still not moving on
I can assure you this isnt going to a positive place in a few seconds
craggy night
!ban @vague basalt rule 4 violations
jaunty sunBOT
Banned chris_lp
merry lark
Not doing this, it's summertime, snowflakes are melting away
Ooo I’m stealing that
brittle crystal
!ban <@544994158616641537> rule 4 violations
how dare you take this from me
merry lark
Hahah
candid spire
I know what it is, it’s the non-binary brotherhood person???
Dane is so cool. It’s great having nonb rep
merry lark
Dane is so cool. It’s great having nonb rep
Yah it is, good to see representation
brittle crystal
!mute @craggy night 1m stealing my ban
jaunty sunBOT
cyrus224 muted zeekx for 1 minute. Reason: stealing my ban
merry lark
LOL
candid spire
Civil war
craggy night
brittle crystal
cheating
fallow flower
Dane is so cool. It’s great having nonb rep
i mean i dont get why they
manic trench
cyrus never gets to do any mod actions
merry lark
manic trench
I saw that spoiler get that outta here
fallow flower
😭
candid spire
Uh oh
merry lark
|| Cyrus rules ||
brittle crystal
|| Cyrus rules ||
true
merry lark
Yah whenever you see Cyrus typing you know it’s over for whoever is on the end of the barrel
merry lark
i mean i dont get why they
Why not
Always something somewhere someone doesn’t like when that something doesn’t even effect that someone
Ooo that was a nice kinda rhyme riddle thing
glossy tundra
Dane? Max's friend? Nonb? I just assumed they were a women, did i miss a cue somewhere
I didn't have the greatest experience since i watched on Oxhorn
And was there a scene that showed Max planting the boot blade? Cause I missed like, that whole section and I don't want to scan through the whole episode for the stuff I missed
lament holly
At the vault scene, i knew it. The second I saw the husband.
the hair was a dead giveaway
also i found the Intro very odd.
i wouldve preferred a little more action other than just a kaboom
manic trench
that is such an interesting takeaway you have
I've seen almost unanimously people were completely in love with how the intro played out and the emotion of it, but you were hoping for like - people actually getting blown up and such?
lament holly
maybe, maybe not, i dont know, possibly just more viewpoints
it just felt strange. It went from calm, to meh action.
also what doesnt make sense is how was everyone able to get to the bomb shelters? Surely time wouldve ran out already
i mean that bomb blast looked pretty god damn close to me, comparable to Fallout 4
glossy tundra
Maximus looked hella guilty but maybe i was biased from my assumption
and stuff from ep 2 ig
lament holly
dear god, that power armor scene, what the hell was that voice
that voice was fucking terrifying. Can we have that in Fallout 5 please todd
glossy tundra
i have a theory on it but its for ep2
balmy mason
I really liked the 1st episode, the tempo of first 20ish minutes was well done to pull me into watching. The only minor complaint I have is I feel the show is a bit oversatured with music bits, if it makes any sense. Feel like cutting them in half would be just right
lament holly
that slowmo was weird in the intro
glossy tundra
maybe full speed wouldve been the action you needed lol
lament holly
probably
manic trench
Your take on this is so different and curious
balmy mason
I liked the bit about telegraphing (not sure if that's the right word) the scientist's portrait. I'm not that well versed into the lore, wouldnt BoS be able to just send the actual photograph?
lament holly
I mean the slowmo wouldve worked with the first bomb drop, but then it shouldve went to full speed.
manic trench
I thought the slow motion helped add to the emotion and make you physically feeling the fear
lament holly
the slowmo felt like it dragged on for a little too long
glossy tundra
the only time i really like slow motion is when it shows me things i wouldn't have enough time to catch otherwise so im a little biased
manic trench
It wasn't any padding of runtime to make it match up to any others at least
I think you probably are intended to slow down and watch all the little things happening
the bombs dropping and running to safety happen insanely fast you are going to miss so much
lament holly
what i mean by the slowmo, is the bombs took way too long to... yknow have an effect
manic trench
you're meant to see the minor changes in facial expression, see the kids and family realizing whats happening, how quickly people are having to react
glossy tundra
sometimes I wanna be disoriented and not know whats going on
lament holly
maybe
manic trench
I'm sure we will get sped up versions of these scenes later when we get the ghoul story panned out in a hopeful next season
glossy tundra
i feel disconnected from their panic when i have time to take everything in
lament holly
hopefully
manic trench
thats interesting because the slowing down for me helps me actually feel it more
glossy tundra
i didnt even consider that possibility, thats exciting
lament holly
also rip no cake
glossy tundra
imagine you're in a boxing match with~~ jake paul~~ mike tyson at .5 speed, there's no excitement there
lament holly
My dad is a long time fallout fan, and he thought of the funniest thing during that scene where the vault dwellers are meeting with the other vault. He said outloud "Gary... Gary?"
glossy tundra
who was gary im crap with names
lament holly
Vault 108
glossy tundra
what was vault 108
glossy tundra
ah i didnt play the classics but it sounds familiar
lament holly
all you gotta do is search up "Fallout Gary" and all the information is there
glossy tundra
would rewatch oxhorn playthrough 10/10
oh its fallout 3 im dumb
but its still been years since i played
candid spire
that voice was fucking terrifying. Can we have that in Fallout 5 please todd
I’d love to have a voice mod on Pa next game omg please
lament holly
just make it deep as hell
if that doesnt make enemies shit their pants, nothing will
candid spire
Yeah it adds a whole inhuman vibe to it
lament holly
that sends a clear message of "Dont fuck with me"
candid spire
Yeah
Another thing I want in the next fallout is the sten Lucy was using. Cool ass gun
glossy tundra
i would mod it away im tired of ww2 guns
glossy tundra
thats true
onyx crater
Another thing I want in the next fallout is the sten Lucy was using. Cool ass gu...
It's a Sterling, not a Sten
So is it canon that the Commonwealth BOS chapter became the dominant one and establishes itself to be a national one?
tidal sapphire
the commonwealth chapter might be the dominant one but likely not the main one if lost hills is still kicking
clear kestrel
the commonwealth chapter might be the dominant one but likely not the main one i...
Maxson was endorsed by the West Coast between 3 and 4, so they're still kicking
tidal sapphire
yeah forgot about that
candid spire
It's a Sterling, not a Sten
Close enough lol
tidal sapphire
i wouldnt say that the sten was more of a pipe weapon then a actual firearm compared to sterling
balmy sage
||I’m not sure if it’s a Easter egg or not or just a reference but at 1:04:47 into episode one it looks like to me the guy on the right seems to be holding the “Junk Jet” which you get from ArcJet in Fallout 4 as a prototype, wouldn’t that mean in a way that they acquired it from the sole survivor either by trading or they killed them for it||
candid spire
I have no clue how the junk jet got across the entire country to those cowboys. Maybe it was commercialised or just changed hands
onyx crater
||I’m not sure if it’s a Easter egg or not or just a reference but at 1:04:47 in...
Or, hear me out, more than one person with some mechanical skills have thought up the idea of a compressed air launcher that can accepts anything as ammo
candid spire
The similarities are too much to be a different weapon
balmy sage
True, but the in the series it looks practically identical to the one you get in 4