EPISODE 8

[daring pilot]

Exactly, they were landgrabbing people, putting insane taxes so they will leave the land and NCR could landgrab them.

That's what Raiders do, they either murder you or use you to get money.

[dense owl]

They’ve been at war since near the end of f2, tldr they had a falling out over what to do with Navarro and thus began to fight. Of what we know with the ncr brotherhood war shady sands entire gold supply was destroyed and sent the ncr on a downward spiral.

[long valve]

Why were there no Deathclaws in California?

[coral mortar]

This is correct. Moldaver only used the raiders as pawns. Characterizing the entire NCR as raiders is inaccurate.

[unborn spoke]

It won't be when they film in it

[long valve]

I also loved Vault 4’s punishment system. Simply banishing Lucy back to the surface

[daring pilot]

I just hope they make this "The fall of shady sands" rather than anything else

[small linden]

Yes but seems weird to make it look like it’s an Xbox 360 render when it’s for a show lol

[dense owl]

Moldaver needed force, and especially seeing what the vault is itself. Would want max and extreme prejudice

[unborn spoke]

There are

[long valve]

But we didn’t see any here by 2296. Only the gulpers

[fathom lodge]

Right which makes sense though now. Like I stated before I just needed a refresher on my memory as to why they ended up fighting.

[unborn spoke]

Just not there at the current point as it didn't really go with the story now in season 2 we may see the Divide

[dense owl]

Disagreements on the how of saving humanitys future for the tldr.

[long valve]

Will the Divide still have been nuked though?

[coral mortar]

The show doesnt show any. Doesnt mean theyre wiped though

[long valve]

I want to see Deathclaws actually be vicious creatures

[coral mortar]

Likely. FNV is canon so it will be

[small linden]

If they made the fall os Shady Sands/Nuke literally 2087 instead of 2077 everything is fixed.

[dense owl]

Well duh, new Vegas is canon and the divide happened way before that by at least a few years

[long valve]

Throwing people around, slicing them with ease, or even crushing a T-60 boy

[dense owl]

That’s not what a Deathclaw is tho?

[coral mortar]

Not really. Everything is still ok in lore if it happened in 2277

[long valve]

In the show

[dense owl]

That’s still not what one is really

[small linden]

It doesn’t make sense if shady sands is starting to fall by the events of FNV

[long valve]

It’s AFTER New Vegas

[coral mortar]

It does actually. It is alluded to multiple times in the game

[dense owl]

Ncr was on the decline in new Vegas. Brotherhood war, legion war, first battle of Hoover dam, etc

[small linden]

I think it is implausible we don’t know anything about Shady sands being destroyed in New Vegas.

[dense owl]

That’s because it happened later

[coral mortar]

We also don’t know anything of it not being destroyed

[daring pilot]

We know that the fall of shady sands lead to a nuke being used against the NCR.

The first battle of Hoover Dam was in 2277.

We dont know if the Fall and the Nuke occur in the same year or if they are the same event

[odd marsh]

(and the NCR was already falling by NV)

[fresh cosmos]

The NCR collapsing at all imo doesnt make sense. The idea that they couldn't have gotten past their issues presented in NV is imo inane. It assumes that all civilizations must fall if they have issues.

[dense owl]

Going off of Maximus and Lucy’s age I’d put it around 10 years ago. Which would be what 9 years after new Vegas

[small linden]

That’s literally what I said earlier lol

[dense owl]

So far all we have confirmed is shady sands fall ncr still lives on we see that in the ending

[fresh cosmos]

I have it being 1 year after NV if we assume that Lucy is 18 currently

[coral mortar]

It makes sense. Theyve made continuous poor decisions with resources and havent had good tactical leadership in a while

[small linden]

NCR yes is falling by FNV but the nuke likely did not happen by the events of new Vegas. It seems implausible we would not hear about it at all. 2277 being the start of the fall is fine but the nuke prob did not happen in the same year.

[daring pilot]

Its said they wont live for too long if they lose Vegas.

Even House states in New Vegas that if he wins he could keep the NCR on life-support using them as cash cows and giving them enough not to fall

[warm ermine]

I haven’t fully rewatched the episodes but I skimmed a bunch of them trying to find any direct mention to ages or dates but no luck

[small linden]

I think even if they win Vegas they also get screwed over

[coral mortar]

Even if the nuke did happen, it still makes sense given previous lore

[dense owl]

It didn’t, the Chart implies it happened later just at an unknown date

[daring pilot]

Not entirely, they need Vegas resources to sustain themselves and keep expanding against the Legion.

Vegas has food farms, fresh water and mineral resources they could use, also factories.

They lack of water and food to sustain

[warm ermine]

Need the wiki people to start typing up each episode one by one so we can search

[coral mortar]

Lol im about to volunteer

[timber raptor]

The NCR was still in the strip when Vegas was destroyed. There are MP troop helmets next to the corpses

[fresh cosmos]

I understand what NV says. Im simply saying that i find it to be inane. The idea that the NCR couldnt have solved their issues when they should be the only faction capable of doing so leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[odd wedge]

2277 only means shady sands started to decline.

[daring pilot]

Sauce

[small linden]

Ok well what does “Fall” mean in this case ? Seems weird to place a year for something that wasn’t as dramatic until it was nuked

[daring pilot]

They were the worst faction IRC.

[long valve]

Hopefully the Strip is fine

[fresh cosmos]

irc?

[sturdy bone]

It was the start of the flight against the legion. If was that start of ncr being stretched to thin. I'd say that's fitting

[coral mortar]

I loved the concept of the NCR, but their leadership never got better, so it makes sense that the faction never got better

[sturdy bone]

The first battle of hoover damn

[little condor]

Guess whatever the Courier and pals did in the Mojave was all for nothing, I guess.

[dense owl]

ncr is a fun faction but they’ve also been a weird one

[timber raptor]

Look at the corpse on the right, NCR MP helmet

[small linden]

My theory is 2277 the NCR is in a decline, them calling it a “Fall” is like how Historians indicate the fall of the Roman Empire. The nuke happens after the events of New Vegas. Not sure why it’s not cleared up but this is prob what they meant

[dense owl]

well courier did canonically bounce

[dense owl]

keeps it ambiguous and more fun

[coral mortar]

Lets us craft our own theories

[dense owl]

Giving a full written timeline removes questions and theories

[daring pilot]

Its similar and it says NCR; didnt notice tho.

Yet there's a hole in the wall and a dead deathclaw... That's sussy.

[small linden]

Maybe it’s a dumb question but are the credit scenes even canon lmao

[sturdy bone]

That's exactly how it has to be for nv to be cannon but nooo everyone has to think an entire game has to be retconned for their hate boner for todd

[coral mortar]

Given how they allude to the settings of the next episode, yes

[dense owl]

they’re like concept slides I’d argue no until we see it later

[odd marsh]

Todd personally fought Tim Cain in hand to hand combat over the ruins of Shady Sands

[small linden]

Why would he go to New Vegas if it was barren anyways

[coral mortar]

To find House

[timber raptor]

Mr.house

[small linden]

To find hoes ?

[coral mortar]

No. Robert House

[sturdy bone]

Mr House ending is prob canon

[dense owl]

https://vxtwitter.com/brianfargo/status/1777957521376121189?s=46&t=VzgX3IrG8Yy1MLGkWO8CoQ

[daring pilot]

It depends how the writers handle the canonicity.

Which is common for live actions to fuck up the timeline

[small linden]

Why does he want Mr House, he didn’t seem convinced by the vault Tec meeting

[little condor]

True, isn't the Courier supposed to be at Big MT keeping an eye on the facility? If New Vegas strikes out for Hank somehow, Big MT's probably his next best bet.

[coral mortar]

He was the most tactically sound of all the factions.

[daring pilot]

Everyone that knew House, knew he could survive by himself

Even the Enclave tried to buy him in.

[little condor]

Guy's also a rat bastard that needs to get brained by a golf club. Frankly, even that's too good for that twisted SOB.

[coral mortar]

Dude was a literal genius

[sturdy bone]

They knew there would be an army of nerds going over this. I think how I and @small linden have Said the events are them taking decent steps around it

[daring pilot]

Look at Halo TV show.

Not saying they did, but if they dont unfuck this. It could

[coral mortar]

Look how they massacred my boy 😭

[small linden]

Master Chief sex scenes so random

[meager basin]

I mean the director did say he didn't want to appease the fans of the series since it's pointless

[daring pilot]

Fallout still holding on a tiny rope between being destroyed by itself or surviving

[odd wedge]

Its either Mr. House ending or Independent Vegas right?

[small linden]

I think for the most part he did it’s incredibly lore accurate for the most part and has so many details

[daring pilot]

Yep, NCR is discarded as most likely and Legion aswell

[sturdy bone]

Yeah

[timber raptor]

Did Mr.house keep NCR troopers in the strip after the victory?

[coral mortar]

Id say either Mr House or NCR. Independent is extremely unlikely unless the courier is a fucking superwiz

[daring pilot]

There's chaos in the streets with that vertibird so its possible

[dense owl]

House is also the one featured most prominently with the vaults itself

[coral mortar]

Fair point. An independent ending would lead to chaos unless the courier is smarter than mr house

[dense owl]

Nope! He sent every ncr citizen that wasn’t a gambler gone

[odd wedge]

If we go by House's victory, they get expelled

[timber raptor]

So it's most likely a NCR ending

[daring pilot]

They could still pull the rug with the tunnelers. and NCR returning to die in the strip

[dense owl]

And forced the ncr to pay for water/electricity per the kilowatt hour

[little condor]

Plus, who knows if House had some failsafe to disable the Securitrons after he died?

[small linden]

I think it’s an NCR victory that ended up screwing them over more as it hurt them more economically etc etc

[coral mortar]

Wouldnt put it past him, given how paranoid he is

[dense owl]

He does have one sorta. Tldr I think a 40 miler radius shutdown

[timber raptor]

Securitrons got wrecked by something

[little condor]

NCR wins, Securitrons go poof, Shady Sands gets nuked, NCR pulls out, bye-bye Vegas. Or, Courier wins, Securitrons go poof, Shady Sands gets nuked, mass anarchy and chaos, bye-bye Vegas.

[daring pilot]

This still worries me
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225376618084827146/1228122263686086786/IMG_20240411_183805257.jpg?ex=662ae4fd&is=66186ffd&hm=aff0a645fe66197658b52c4c7c85c7cbf2b4b3526e360c3bc409ddb54f8e6d9e&

[timber raptor]

It looks like the securitrons were fighting something

[dense owl]

problem is that this is talking about the artistic end credits which we don’t know if they’re canon or just conceptual

[small linden]

It doesn’t make sense why New Vegas looks like shit if Mr House is still alive, so he might be dead. But then why does Hank go to New Vegas ?

[dense owl]

If so do we take every one of them as such.

[timber raptor]

Claw marks

[little condor]

Yeah, you'd think he'd know if House is dead; guy had his obit printed and ready to go if he died, after all.

[daring pilot]

I'm kinda iffy everytime they show a city with smoke trails hinting civilization and most of the times (tv shows and movies) every fucking one is dead and the white smoke is just because the city is destroyed

[coral mortar]

Cuz if he cant access House, he may be able to learn of where the other CEOs are and if they’re alive

[timber raptor]

Vegas is gone, look at how bad the buildings are in the ending

[odd wedge]

that would lead him to Big MT next

[little condor]

And even if House is dead, who's to say he didn't have contingencies for that; guy brain-scanned his starlet GF's, why not brain-scan himself as a backup solution?

[coral mortar]

Or, he could be going there because he knows House will have had resources that he can possibly snag to help him

[timber raptor]

Could also be an Elijah ending, because it looks like the cloud is there

[dense owl]

Well if they were dead it would be gone right.

[small linden]

Maybe NCR wins, they start to get weakened, then they try to take down Mr House, so it backfired massively. This makes the most sense hence why we see NCR and Securitrons dead in the streets

[dense owl]

That’s just how Vegas looks tbf. Espeidally without the power being sent from helios

[daring pilot]

I just got the feeling that the city is dead

[little condor]

Good luck defeating lobotomites, corrupted Securitrons, and one PO'ed and brain-damaged delivery person. Some schlubby Vault-Tec exec ain't breaking in there without mercenary assistance, and I mean top-shelf merc assistance.

[dense owl]

Won’t know till the next game or season 2

[timber raptor]

There's no visible bullet holes on the securitrons, but plenty of claw marks

[daring pilot]

Wait wait wait wait.
Is that a car or a securitron?

[timber raptor]

Securitron

[odd wedge]

securitron

[odd marsh]

All of these freakouts bring me back to the Jet Prewar days

[little condor]

New Vegas getting offscreened by Tunnelers just would feel.... cheap. Like, yes, it was mentioned as a possibility by Ulysses, but come the hell on, why would a crazy fatalistic dude be taken seriously as gospel?

[timber raptor]

There's also destroyed securitrons on the road outside of the wall, I'm assuming it might've been some sort of defense perimeter

[dense owl]

I mean it was in the end slides

plus if they really want Ulysses nuke both canon

[little condor]

True, though that almost feels too easy. When in doubt, just fire nukes, they're the easiest reset button possible.

[odd marsh]

They've been used to kill a villain or open a path to the villain since 1

It's kind of classic at this point

[dense owl]

Actually the original reset button was far more elaborate and convoluted

Fukin Van Buren

[daring pilot]

It's the same entrance from FNV

[night vault]

I just finished

Fucking MAJOR confirmations for the entire franchise

[abstract hemlock]

Yep

[fresh cosmos]

Looks desolated as hell. No lights no nothin.

[night vault]

They knew how to make a fan tear up with that final shot

[abstract hemlock]

Yep yeah watch the end credits cinematics you concealed it destroyed robots in an NCR helicopter

[daring pilot]

There's smoke trails which means there's people there

Or they got all murdered

[abstract hemlock]

Yep watch end credit cinematic you’ll know why

[night vault]

I watched the end credits but that didn't even cross my mind

[small linden]

RIP NCR 😿

[night vault]

So, this is an unfortunate turn of events for my favorite faction, but imo this was a brilliant show

[daring pilot]

[little condor]

And may Hank and Vault-Tec eternally burn in hell alongside House.

[night vault]

I mean, at the end of the day Shady Sands is just one city

[fresh cosmos]

Probably a raider camp or something similar to it if we assume that everyone in it before were either killed or left.

[night vault]

I can't believe I was actually right about Vault-Tec

No doubt that's gonna piss a lot of people off lol

Just the other day I was talking about what Vault-Tec would do if not for the bombs. And it's clear: they would ensure they fell

[fresh cosmos]

are there end credits?

[little condor]

Eh, it'll just make Vault-Tec's final destruction all the more sweet.

[abstract hemlock]

Each episodes and credits has like a zooming out cinematic of the episode theme

[sturdy bone]

It's always been alluded to in the games idk why people would be mad

[abstract hemlock]

This thing

[timber raptor]

Would've been cool if we could see one of the faces still activated, so we know if it was a mark 1 or 2

[dense owl]

Imo keep it a mystery till next game/season

[small linden]

Lucy is such a real character lmao

[daring pilot]

The smoke is coming from the wallen-in sections of the city

[fresh cosmos]

So we have an attack on titan moment for NV. Maybe there could still be people inside.

[little condor]

Would be funny if the only person left alive in New Vegas is Yes Man, still waiting patiently outside the Tops after all this time.

[night vault]

Yeah, I personally like this theory and I've been believing it for a while, but I recall when I first brought it up people did not like that and preferred that it was China

No longer a theory though, but confirmed fact

[crimson anchor]

"oH mY gOd bEtHeSdA rEmOvEd nCr" i guess the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th states just DONT EXIST THEN RIGHT?

[night vault]

Although it sounds like Vault-tec just started it, I believe there's still overwhelming evidence that China did launch bombs

[shrewd rune]

As of now, no

[crimson anchor]

could be propaganda. there was a multi company cartel and news organizations could be apart of it

[little condor]

In which case, when the time comes to finally put an end to Vault-Tec, perhaps the Shi could come along? What better way to end that company than for both the heirs of America and China alike to strike down the bastards who tricked their forefathers into ending the world?

[night vault]

Yeah, I want to hold out hope that the whole rest of the nation might not be completely collapsed

[shrewd rune]

They did, we literally go to a Chinese submarine that launched bombs in 4

[night vault]

Yeah that's the main piece of evidence I'm thinking of

[long valve]

Y’all think Lucy has like 0 caps to her name?

[night vault]

So that leads back to the big question - does the bomb in Megaton have the vault-tec logo?

[crimson anchor]

exactly, a declining ncr would arouse independence for the shi. assuming the chosen one sided with them, they could be the next rival to the brotherhood, as they can produce better power armor and better vertibirds

[crimson anchor]

maybe if they ever remaster fo3, which i hope not

[long valve]

… okay so I’ll assume yes that Lucy is a broke bitch

[crimson anchor]

duhhh

[long valve]

She has 0 caps to her name

[crimson anchor]

well, she might have some caps. after all, she and maximus killed 2 fiends

[long valve]

“I’d offer you one of these cherry tomatoes, but you have a hole in your neck.”

[dense owl]

Well Yesnt. It was on the table but not exactly confirmed they did it

[long valve]

We need cherry tomatoes now goddammit. Bethesda add the cool foods from the show to the games

[crimson anchor]

god goggins was the perfect person to cast as ghoul

[dense owl]

basically a plan E to ensure everything works

[long valve]

“The Wasteland has its own Golden Rule, thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit all the goddamn time.”

[crimson anchor]

Yassss, i wanna see in game food in the show too. the igauna bits and mongrel meat was nice, but i want MOREEEE

[little condor]

True enough, given how often we all get sidetracked in our playthroughs by random shinies.

[long valve]

What was the actual quote? I forgor because that quote is the definition of the 3D games

[crimson anchor]

"son? what son? the only son i know is my 20 maxed out settlements that make ncr look like a shit shack"

[long valve]

I think Lucy did more side quests than her main quest

[fresh cosmos]

So the BOS has infinite energy now. I wonder whats gonna come about that.

[long valve]

Institute but worse

[crimson anchor]

infinite laser rifle recharging station is prob the best they can do. unless plot luck makes then find a super death ray or something

[long valve]

Her new main quest
“Father, Forgive Me”
• Track your Dad across the United States and eliminate him at all costs. After all, you have nothing left to lose.

[crimson anchor]

wait.

wait a minute

ARCHIMEDES

[fresh cosmos]

Im a big fan of the BOS but it just feels odd sidelining the NCR just so that the BOS could be at the forefront of the show. Gives me 40k vibes where 90% of the material is based around Space Marines, while everything else in the setting fights for the last 10%.

[dense owl]

Potentially.

[long valve]

I want to see Lucy take some Med-X and Psycho and be temporarily unstoppable as she ranks a few gunshots and stab wounds until combat is over and she starts to complain about the pain

[dense owl]

ncr won. They powered the city itself clean energy

I don’t think the brotherhood can remove it without fear of destruction

[long valve]

I think Med-X would give her a temporary 400 damage resistance whilst the Psycho would give her a 999% increase to all damage

[crimson anchor]

cool, but at the end of the day its who controlled the cold fusion

[tulip cave]

It seems like the BOS are being set up to be the big bads of the series 🤔

[long valve]

For once, they need to not be the good guys since they’re morally questionable

[crimson anchor]

cold fusion has like infinite power. the lights that it powers is an infinitesmall poriton of the power it can generate

[fresh cosmos]

Thats what I wondered as well, but Moldaver talking to Max about the BoS using it kind of makes me feel like the BoS is going to have it lol.

[crimson anchor]

i hope to god in season 2 we get to see northern ncr attempt to retake the cold fusion. hopefully we get to see the shi, idk, like sell ncr t51b/vb02 vertibirds

[fresh cosmos]

Yea hope we get to see some NCR cities. Even the brief flashback with the cable car was really nice.

[dense owl]

well we only have 2-3 confirmed cities? Arroyo, Vault City, and Potentially new reno

[long valve]

So cold fusion is a hypothetical thing in reality

[crimson anchor]

and the hub

[long valve]

Trying to achieve the fusion reaction at room temperature instead of immense heat and pressure like in stars

[crimson anchor]

fits right in into fallout

[long valve]

Yeah it does unsurprisingly

If they achieved nuclear fission or made the fusion core as a tiny nuclear fusion generator, cold fusion works well

Imagine if power armor was powered by cold fusion instead of the fusion core. It would last forever

I kinda for some reason hope Appalachia or the Capital Wasteland get referenced. They already referenced the Commonwealth right?

[timber raptor]

Yeah but imagine if it gets damaged

[crimson anchor]

tbh, the bos in the show barely has any scribes

[dense owl]

Well that’s sorta how fusion tech works. It’s unlimited energy for a short time until it dies out entirely

[timber raptor]

The commonwealth does, they mention the BOS chapter there

[crimson anchor]

yeah, im surprised fo4 railraod fans arent more pissed that the "fascist" bos still live on

[long valve]

But this is a different west coast chapter, distinct from the Mojave and original BoS tribes

[crimson anchor]

yup, one that follows maxson command

[long valve]

Also canonically accurate power armor for durability and how deadly it is

They deal like 500 unarmed damage and can instantly cripple heads

[crimson anchor]

i wish they made it so it could have a little bit more defense

it reminds me less of a tank and more of a humvee

[timber raptor]

Armor gets compromised after a few successive hits usually

[long valve]

Titus dying because of Max refusing to heal him felt a bit needed. Titus was a bitch

Bro tells Max to be brave and runs from a damn Yao Guai in power armor

[crimson anchor]

tbh he got man handled by that yao guai

[dense owl]

Wait. Muldaver is pre war so did she get put into the vault cryo pods?

[long valve]

I think she’s post war

[crimson anchor]

shes pre war? idts

[dense owl]

Would explain vault 22 getting out and then knowing

[timber raptor]

She is, she's the lady in black at the church

[dense owl]

her company was bought by vault tec

[crimson anchor]

but shes from vault 33, not 31 tho

[odd wedge]

Shes the same person Mr. Ghoul met

[daring pilot]

Vault Tec did nothing wrong

Proceeds to make the only hope of their country into the worst inhumane experiments and the remainder who didn't were used as experiments were tasked to seize the nuclear arsenal from the Us Goverment, by force

[timber raptor]

I like how they referenced vault 106, I think it was the west tek guy

[long valve]

Also do you guys think Tim Cain and Brian Fargo were happy to see how far Fallout had come since 97?

[crimson anchor]

they referenced a lot of vaults

[long valve]

Several successful games and a TV show with a second season in pre production?

[crimson anchor]

vault 75 was clearly mentioned

[timber raptor]

It was kind of chilling hearing them already start selling out citizens

[long valve]

how do Stimpaks work? They don’t heal wounds, but they slow bleeding or stop it

[timber raptor]

Probably a mix of adrenaline and coagulation agents

[long valve]

Explains how Dogmeat got up after Ghoul stabbed her

She was such a good girl and best girl even

[crimson anchor]

" stimulation delivery package, is a type of hand-held medication used for boosting the body's own regenerative properties"

so like i guess it makes hte body produce more STEM cells or something like that

[long valve]

I think they knew if she died, we would have rioted and gave the show a 0/10. So I’m glad they let Dogmeat live

[fresh cosmos]

Makes the user impervious to small arms weapons, but can be damaged by more hard hitting things. I remember seeing a reddit post and basically the user was saying that an AK would do real damage against someone in PA.

[dense owl]

https://x.com/brianfargo/status/1777957521376121189?s=46&t=VzgX3IrG8Yy1MLGkWO8CoQ

Brian Fargo (@BrianFargo) on X

Fallout 4 of us. Tim Cain, Todd Howard, @Dezinuh and myself of course.

Twitter · Apr 10, 2024, 7:11 AM

[timber raptor]

I would doubt an akm would penetrate the armor, modern level 4 plates can stop multiple rounds.

[long valve]

I want them to make limited time cars based on what we saw in the show and sell them for 2077 prices like $30,000

[crimson anchor]

if the old fallout producers like current falout, then so should the fans

[long valve]

Drain us of our wallets more

I like the car Bud had. It’s cool

[timber raptor]

Give us an RPD for fallout 76, or have the regular assault rifle benefit from stabilized aswell

[odd wedge]

I really enjoyed the show, it scratched that Fallout itch ive been having for a long time

[crimson anchor]

we have rpk in 76

[timber raptor]

Yeah but the RPD rocks a hard vibe

[long valve]

Max destroys Vault 4 and Lucy tells him it’s okay
“Oops”
Steals their fusion core and is angy to give up the power armor, returns the fusion core and abandons the T-60

[crimson anchor]

agreed, but what would the rpd do that teh mg34 not do

[crimson anchor]

bruh why cant he just run away in the power armor like is he stupid

[long valve]

I think the power armor being effectively worthless without a fusion core should have been implemented in 4 and 76. Like if you have no cores, it kicks you out

[timber raptor]

It's a vibe

[long valve]

He could not use the power armor without a fusion core. It was effectively “dead” without it

[crimson anchor]

ok so why didnt he just run away with the fusion core, /s

fusion cores are plentiful, fallout 4 taught me tat!

[long valve]

That’s what happens to NPC’s when you shoot their fusion core in 4, they get kicked out and abandon the power armor

This is a show, not a game. It treats it like reality to an extent, rare stuff like that are not common

[crimson anchor]

/s

[long valve]

c’mere

[crimson anchor]

ok but that emoji combination is godly

[long valve]

I kinda wish the 10mm looked like its 76 variant with the longer barrel, but the 4 variant worked well

Also the Colt 6520 being a revolver can put me at ease. The magazine is there for show

Maybe it has a cylinder with 10 rounds? Or the magazine feeds the cylinder? Idk. The thing rotates at least

[dense owl]

It’s still a mag fed revolver

12 rounds of 10mm with rotating cylinder

[long valve]

Also the 6520 killing the Yao Guai with a single bullet, Max must have had Better Crits, a crit charged up, maxed out his gunslinger perks, and used every damage boosting item available

[crimson anchor]

ok but the imfdb database on the fo4 assault rifle is super funny "The fictional "Assault Rifle" from Fallout 4 is used by Brotherhood of Steel knights. It is a machine gun with a receiver that slightly resembles one from the MAS AA-52, the cooling jacket of a Lewis Gun (albeit with features from water-cooled jackets), and an oversized M249 handguard. In Episode 2, a Brotherhood knight tries fending off an attacking "Yao Guai" (the name given to mutated black bears) with one of these "Assault" MGs, but this causes the mutated bear to bite off the gun's receiver, ending its shameful existence."

[long valve]

[dense owl]

It’s then used to shoot the Gulper and decimate much of the ncr infantry

[long valve]

It WORKS WELL FOR POWER ARMOR OKAY? IT LOOKS GOOFY ON NORMAL PEOPLE

[crimson anchor]

tbf that assault rifle takes inspiration from

1. ww1 machine gun
2. cold war machine gun
3. modern day machine gun

idk how thats possible

[dense owl]

Fallout tech

[long valve]

The plasma pistol made a cameo

[dense owl]

Much of the regular arsenal are kitbashed abominations that make no logical sense

[long valve]

It’s in the background of episode 2

[fresh cosmos]

To the best of my knowledge PA durability is stated to withstand over 2500 joules of kinetic energy. So yea its gonna tank a 7.62 but a .308 is going to do considerable damage to it.

[dense owl]

Such as a Colt Ak

[long valve]

Yet it tanked shot from a shotgun, a bear claw scratch, small arms, and even laser blasts

[fresh cosmos]

Just looked up the joules from a a .50 BMG, and yea PA is going to do nothing to protect Knights from Veteran Rangers.

[timber raptor]

Even during the last scenes, ghoulie's pistol wrecks 4 PA dudes

[long valve]

Well because it had a design flaw in the torso

He shot below its chest piece and hit them in the center of mass, killing the PA boys

[fresh cosmos]

Yea it was a weakspot in the armor, it also looked like he was using a different type of ammo maybe armor piercing.

[crimson anchor]

ok twitter is trolling hard lol

[crimson anchor]

thats a major design flaw. if body armor doesnt protect center of mass, its failed its job.

[long valve]

Yeah that’s what Ghoul mentioned when he wore the T-45 at Anchorage. It had a similar issue

I think even prewar the T-60 had that exact same issue with not protecting the center of mass

[crimson anchor]

but t45 is rushed version. t-60 is full version. i refuse to believe that the BOS---who came from US soldiers---didnt fix the flaw in the t-60 in 200 years

[long valve]

They probably didn’t know about it since they’re tech freaks and assume they’re unkillable in the T-60 like 76 PVPers who spam Stimpaks and Nuka-Quantum

[crimson anchor]

theyre us soldeirs, not civvies. if goggins knew about the flaws, so would the soldiers

[long valve]

But skill issue for the PA dudes, they should have used Overeater’s on their PA for damage reduction

[pure crest]

At least they made clear when T60 dropped, post battle of anchorage

[long valve]

Hell, Ghoul probably had anti-armor on his revolver

[tribal belfry]

Everything that’s not t45 is after anchorage

[crimson anchor]

goggins really is taking an L by not using a bloodied build.

[long valve]

Real. He’s a Ghoul and doesn’t have enough rads to run bloodied, smh

Lucy is probably doing a Beserker’s build since she wore no armor

[crimson anchor]

maximus is that freshie who still thinks the PA is god even if its not legendary

[long valve]

I think everybody has Bloody Mess as an active perk

Because a lot of people die in gory ways or lose limbs similarly

[crimson anchor]

its like required in all builds so obviously everyone would use it

[long valve]

Also L. Lucy is level 10 and she somehow managed to survive 3 weeks without armor, smh

[pure crest]

No? T51 was at anchorage, late into it

[crimson anchor]

t-51 was not at anchorage, only t45

[long valve]

That was just a simulation for Fallout 3

[crimson anchor]

the anchorage campaign has been widely debunked as american propaganda

[long valve]

They probably didn’t have enough time to even deploy the T-51b in reality. It was only the T-45 that was there and even then, it didn’t make much of a difference

[pure crest]

"The T-51 series of Power Armor was the pinnacle of mechanized protection before the Great War. First introduced in the Battle of Anchorage, it is highly valued today for its increased protective capabilities.
”
— Fallout 4 Loading Screen

[long valve]

Yeah that’s propaganda

[crimson anchor]

first introduced =/= used in battle

[pure crest]

Ah yes, the loading screens are just straight up lies

[tribal belfry]

Bro how tf does west tek push out models so fast

[long valve]

Fallout loved to over exaggerate Anchorage. Hell, even Cooper himself said it’s only the T-45 at Anchorage when he served

[dense owl]

Military money

[pure crest]

Idk man, idk

[tribal belfry]

I swear lore makers have no idea what development time is lmao

[long valve]

They did not have time to push out the T-51b by the time Anchorage got reclaimed

[pure crest]

No, he didn't explicitly say that

He said he used t45 and it was defective

[tribal belfry]

So did they didint fight in anchorage

So I was right that t51 was after anchorage

[crimson anchor]

yes

[dense owl]

They pushed t51b near the end of the anchorage conflict

[long valve]

And so was T-60. Both made it out after Anchorage

[pure crest]

No, unless the loading screen is a straight up lie

[long valve]

But T-45 was rushed and didn’t help much during the Anchorage conflict

[crimson anchor]

again, first introduced =/= first time used in battle

[pure crest]

Exactly

[fresh cosmos]

He also proposed a question on whether or not they fixed it on the newer models. He wouldnt have asked that if he had experience with them.

[tribal belfry]

T-60 is a cheaper more easily mass produced PA compared to the t51. Not as good but more readily available and better than the t-45

[long valve]

I think T-51b may have been introduced right AFTER Anchorage was reclaimed

[tribal belfry]

It’s easier to repair too

[long valve]

It was one of the best PA’s prewar, but it was too expensive to make

[tribal belfry]

It’s the best

But holy shit was it ugly

[pure crest]

That's also not true, X01 is the best prewar

[crimson anchor]

i dont like that they just pulled a "t60 has massive defect because it inherited it from t45 despite the BOS likely knowing this problem and having 200 years to fix it"

thats just lazy writing imo

[fresh cosmos]

This is a series coming from a company that breaks canon whenever they release a new Elder Scrolls game, I wouldnt think too much about when the T-51 was introduced.

[tribal belfry]

That is a pre war design, but it’s not available pre war

[pure crest]

Yea, agreed

[tribal belfry]

Work on the x01 barely just started before the Great War

[long valve]

Even in the Whitespring bunker it says X-01 is a prototype power armor

[crimson anchor]

and i wish goggins was instead a regular grunt rather than another Power Armor user

[long valve]

He’s the ghoul

[tribal belfry]

The x01 was not anywhere close to operational

[long valve]

Isn’t that why Advanced Power Armor was made to build upon the X-01?

[mortal yarrow]

idk if this was mentioned before, but like, what if the show moves through all the locations from one end of the US to the other? So like, the show ends in DC?

[crimson anchor]

thats lazy and how would they achieve this?

[tribal belfry]

Idk how hellcat PA exists tho

[long valve]

Cosmetic for 76, not canon

[crimson anchor]

marine corp custom 1 of 1 Power armor

[long valve]

Oh fuck I thought of Hellfire

[tulip cave]

Leave my Fallout 3 lore alone!!!

[sturdy bone]

what if the BoS didn't know about it because it's def something that the manufacturer would've kept secret so it might not be common knowledge as it was back before the war

[crimson anchor]

hellfire is canon too, its in fo3

[long valve]

I meant the skin in 76

[crimson anchor]

goggins knows of the defect because of the war. nate would know too and since a pro-BOS ending is confirmed for fo4 nate would have 100% told the BOS

ntm the BOS literally comes from US soldiers

[tribal belfry]

I was talking the PA from the mercenaries

[pure crest]

I don't see that happening, many supporting characters are tied up in vaults and with the west coast bos

[pure crest]

...how is a pro-BOS ending confirmed for Fo4? That blimp isn't the Prydwen

[long valve]

It’s the Caswennan

[crimson anchor]

theyre receiving orders from the commonwealth , so yeah the BOS is confirmed to have survived fo4

[long valve]

A sister ship

[pure crest]

Do you know that commonwealth is a generic term?

[tribal belfry]

Built by the same east coast bos

[long valve]

Is the Caswennan the main base since it has to move with the Vertibirds across California?

[crimson anchor]

theres only 1 commonwealth in all of fallout

[pure crest]

No, there are 13 commonwealths

[crimson anchor]

tf are you on

[long valve]

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts, not the 13 Commonwealths

[mortal yarrow]

Well multiple things can be happening at once..... Cuz the vaults are self contained. But given how the episode ended I dont think it stays in the west coast. Cuz I have a feeling that the enclave is where the unfrozen guy is going. So it only makes sense to me that it goes that way

[pure crest]

Which is not explicitly referenced, again in Fallout each major region is a commonwealth

[crimson anchor]

are you ok, this isnt pre war america this is 2296, which only have 1 commonwealth

[long valve]

But for Fallout 4 players, they do mean the Commonwealth itself since none of the Commonwealth regions are remembered

[pure crest]

No, that's a major assumption

[long valve]

Nobody remembers the names of the Commonwealtjs by 2296

They only know of “one” Commonwealth and that’s the region in Massachusetts

[mortal yarrow]

im sure people remember pennsylvania

[crimson anchor]

im not sure what youre using but you would be in the 0.001% of the fanbase to assume that the commonwealth used in the show is the 13 commonwealths of pre war united states which was last used 219 years ago

[mortal yarrow]

but borders mean nothing

[crimson anchor]

if the BOS expanded to all 13 commonwealths, then that just proves that the BOS won Fo4

[tribal belfry]

Given the fact that fallout 4 exists they would not refer to the commonwealth as the 13 commonwealths as it would confuse the audience. Its highly likely they’re referring to Boston

At this point you can’t even deny it

[long valve]

Yeah most of the non Fallout audience wouldn’t know about the 13 Commonwealths, they would likely learn about the Boston Commonwealth

[crimson anchor]

holy cow the BOS conquered all of the US!!!!!

[pure crest]

What I'm saying is that they are referencing the South West Commonwealth

[timber raptor]

Not fair

[long valve]

The 13 Commonwealths are basically nonexistent at this point since each Wasteland is referred to by its region like the New California Wasteland, Mojave, Capital Wasteland, and Boston Commonwealth

[tribal belfry]

Why tf would they do that

[crimson anchor]

zero why tf would the BOS use archaic pre war terms

[timber raptor]

No way they are referencing the sw commonwealth

[long valve]

There is no way in hell you still believe it. Do you know how many viewers have never played the games and the first thing they search would be the Boston Commonwealth?

[tribal belfry]

Give me one reason Bethesda would do that. One logical reason

[long valve]

Bethesda would reference their own creations, aka Boston Commonwealth. Jesus Christ this is worse than arguing with a NV fanboy

[tribal belfry]

It’s just arguing in bad faith at this point

[fresh cosmos]

Not gonna lie I thought that one bounty hunter was Preston Garvey lol. African american man with the same hat I literally yelled out 'wth thats Preston Garvey" lol.

[long valve]

I want the Junk Jet to return in season 2

[tribal belfry]

Bruh

[crimson anchor]

isnt the junk jet in season 1?

[long valve]

Let Lucy kill somebody with a teddy bear at high velocities

[long valve]

Yes. But I want it to return again since the only kill it had was so fucking ridiculous I loved it. Death by a doll

[tribal belfry]

Junk jet is so economical and environmentally friendly

It’s the epitome of recycling

[fresh cosmos]

I wonder what Lucy title is gonna be. She's a Fallout protag so she needs one.

[crimson anchor]

The Dipshit

[tribal belfry]

The dipshit

[timber raptor]

Stupid one

[long valve]

The Dipshit

[tribal belfry]

Nah that’s Maximus

[long valve]

Also Ghoul had such a weird way of sleeping

[timber raptor]

The big baby bitch

[long valve]

Bro buried himself in a coffin for a few years while having RadAway put in his body

[alpine canopy]

holy fuck those bastards dropped the bombs

[long valve]

Lucy: the Down Bad Woman

[tribal belfry]

What exactly is keeping the ghoul going at this point tho

[tulip cave]

The real question is what's Lucy and Maximus ship name?

[long valve]

He’s 250 something, idk why he even still lives. Maybe it’s him wanting answers for his family

[crimson anchor]

welcome to the fallout show, here are our protagonists

1. Lucy "De Dipshit" MacClean
2. Maximus "Stupidity in Persona"
3. Cooper "Sunburnt" Howard

[tulip cave]

The love of the game

[long valve]

Lucimus

Why was Vault 32 cleaned so quickly so some 33ers would move into it?

[tribal belfry]

Honestly that’s vault tec. They do the most pointless experiments just for the sake of it

[long valve]

I loved when Barb said the line
“War, war never changes.”

[dense owl]

no clue. Likely has happened before

[timber raptor]

We can say mr.house and Sinclair are complacent in Vault Tec's crimes

[warm ermine]

entirely possible they took a bunch of people out of 31 to rush the job

[long valve]

And then returned to eepy time?

[warm ermine]

I mean theyre all aware of whats at stake and what's happening so not totally unrealistic

[tulip cave]

The fact that his wife is vault tec makes this accurate observation hilarious

[tribal belfry]

Why did a vault 32 guy kill himself by shoving a fork into a toaster

[long valve]

Vault 31 residents are so eepy, they have been eepy for 219 years :3

[tribal belfry]

He learned from the best

[crimson anchor]

vault 32 ym?

[warm ermine]

we see on the screen of 32 the rats being forced to kill each other for their place in the room

[tribal belfry]

Yeah typed the wrong number

[long valve]

Also unrealistic, Lucy didn’t loot every item she found

[warm ermine]

the implications of the blood paintings are that 32 found out about vault 31 and what they are and people went nuts

[crimson anchor]

i think v32 residents going insane is still a mystery

[long valve]

She isn’t a true Wastelander

[tribal belfry]

She’s not a hoarder. She’s more disciplined than us

[warm ermine]

fake player

[timber raptor]

Cheater

[crimson anchor]

yeah but normal people reaction to finding that out isnt massacreing ur entire vault

[long valve]

But her carry weight is like 40 pounds so yeah. She has the bare essentials. One food, one water, one gun, 5 bullets, and some armor

[warm ermine]

you say this like living in a vault is normal people

[long valve]

Her carry weight is 40/40. Anymore and she would be overencumbered

[tribal belfry]

Meanwhile bos knights don’t need no carry weight. They have literal squires carrying everything for them

[crimson anchor]

the fact that she didnt grab the fan is a blasphemy to the screw shortage in f76

[tribal belfry]

Yeah that’s a cardinal sin

[long valve]

Yeah their carry weight is like 100/1200

[warm ermine]

imagine youre living in a vault you grew up to think was for the greater good of populating the world and it turns out the vault sending you overseers is full of people in cryo sleep that blew up the world and are experimenting on you

[crimson anchor]

but she gave a purified water to a wastelander so its definitely 39/40

[timber raptor]

I loved how the same raiders in the beginning get absolutely destroyed at the end

[tribal belfry]

I’m more impressed by the squire like damn they got the perks junk rat

[long valve]

She gained 1 karma at least

[crimson anchor]

bros carrying an entire stash box

[long valve]

They have Rifleman, Pack Rat, Bandolier, and Ordinance Express

Oh and Traveling Pharmacy+Thru Hiker I guess

[tribal belfry]

The ghoul is just min maxed to hell with a vats build

[timber raptor]

Any more behind why that one squire turned into a ghoul?

[long valve]

He took the healing factor serum

[crimson anchor]

no he just has a rifleman crit build

[long valve]

Bro cheated an item with mods all the way from Appalachia

[crimson anchor]

he shouldve gone with bloodied tho smh

[tribal belfry]

Nah he got that deadeye power from red dead. That’s vats alright

[long valve]

Real. He’s a full HP rifleman

[warm ermine]

I mean you get the serum from the enclave in 76

[tribal belfry]

Maximus is just a failure of a PA build

[long valve]

But how did the salesman have serums?

[crimson anchor]

maximus is the freshie who doesnt have a build since he still thinks that non legendary PA is still god like

[warm ermine]

he had a lot of weird stuff

[tribal belfry]

Where’s his heavy gun? He should go for a heavy gunner build

[long valve]

What build is Lucy? A “yes” build? Also her Sneak is like 15 since her shoe squeaked

[timber raptor]

I liked that one scene where they swarm the PA soldier and unload a tommy gun into his neck

[rare acorn]

Just finished watching the show, NV gone that's wild

[crimson anchor]

yao guai bug insta broke it

should be patched next season

[long valve]

I think Lucy’s Speech isn’t 100 yet. She has like 67 Speech

[tribal belfry]

Also I don’t see any chem users

[long valve]

The raiders were

[crimson anchor]

those inhalers were chems

[rare acorn]

The guy with the grenade was brutal

[long valve]

They brought back Jet like wtf man they didn’t have Jet in 76

[tribal belfry]

Cuz you can’t slow time in an online game

[tulip cave]

I feel like you guys are being to hard on Lucy and Maximus. They just booted up the game and are still searching for a build that speaks to thier playstyles

[crimson anchor]

i was so confused with that fight like what happened to airsupport

[timber raptor]

SAM missiles

[crimson anchor]

which are easily dodgable

[long valve]

The NCR cheated. They used up their budget on turrets

[tribal belfry]

Also the ghoul got that cannibal perk?

[long valve]

Not enough budget for making tall walls to avoid getting attacked

[crimson anchor]

bro they really invested a multi game crossover budget on rust sam sites

[timber raptor]

Are you still going to risk limited vertibirds? When your ground troops are doing a good enough job?

[azure marten]

I do like that the show explore more about the great game mentioned in lookout

[long valve]

Lucy probably has the lead belly perk at level 1, rookie mistake

[crimson anchor]

idk man based on that battle scene those troops couldve really used air support

[rare acorn]

I like how that guy did some drugs and became a mutant lol

[long valve]

Also Thaddeus forgot to pick Adamantium Skeleton, it’s his fault his foot was crippled

[timber raptor]

It was an absolute melee brawl, air support would've caused way more friendly casualties

[tribal belfry]

I wish I could see energy weapons like the Gatling plasma or plasma caster tho. I wanna see enemies get gooified

[crimson anchor]

miniguns are 5.56, which PA protects

[crimson anchor]

we saw a plasma pistol in episode 2 but it was never used

[rare acorn]

They had guns shaped like laser pistols but they seemed to fire bullets

[timber raptor]

Bro, most of the soldiers were not in PA, you don't fire on your own troops at all

[tribal belfry]

5mm not 5.56

[crimson anchor]

that guy who was swarmed by ncr coulve used the mingun

[crimson anchor]

5mm is smaller than 5.56, so yeah point still stands

[tribal belfry]

Yeah was just correcting the right ammunition

[long valve]

They should've used their +20 strength check to rip off the minigun like in 4

[timber raptor]

Yeah let's save one replaceable power armor and solider by risking a vertibirds which cannot be manufactured

[crimson anchor]

but PA limits ur strength to +12 tho

[long valve]

All the PA dudes at 20 base strength because their PA had some shitty 1* and 2* with +1 STR as the 3*

[tribal belfry]

I think Lucy should’ve went for cola nut judging by how much nuka cola is in the wasteland

[crimson anchor]

bro those vertibirds were getting shot down anways at least they couldve had some use

[timber raptor]

Do you have any tactical knowledge?

[long valve]

yes but we're doing gameplay jokes

[timber raptor]

You fly the vertibirds into the building

[long valve]

nah not funny enough

[crimson anchor]

vertibirds need to fly into the ground like in fo4

[tribal belfry]

I think if they brought Preston Garvey to the west he could help the settlements

[timber raptor]

Agreed

Lucy's mom being there hit me in the feels

[long valve]

she had a mercy kill

[warm ermine]

@small linden No memes.

[timber raptor]

Glad the NCR is gone though, organized raiders

[small linden]

Not a meme- it’s a photo of my dad.

[tribal belfry]

A feral ghoul who is barely alive

[warm ermine]

No photos of your dad, or shitposting

[long valve]

yeah she had to be put down

[tribal belfry]

Hank literally nuked his wife so he could get custody of his kids

[small linden]

1984 i can’t lie

[timber raptor]

Hank needed the flux bro

[warm ermine]

Comply

[small linden]

I love Dane why are all the incels so upset

[tribal belfry]

Nah he’s just ultra petty

[dense owl]

Dane was great in their short time we saw

[long valve]

because they're non-binary? that's why people disliked them?

[tribal belfry]

Who’s non-binary and who is Dane

[tulip cave]

Putting a razor in your boots is crazy ngl

[long valve]

at least we have our third non-binary character following Orlando and Burke

[timber raptor]

I doubt the post apocalypse wastelanders would care

[small linden]

It seemed a bit implausible tbh

I stand with the Enclave and the NCR

[timber raptor]

NCR being wiped out is a good thing.

[small linden]

So what’s your sperm count

[tulip cave]

Just got word from Todd that Maximus is defecting from the BOS and joining up with the NCR in season 2

[long valve]

bro was sterile probably and Lucy ain't getting preggo

[small linden]

Untrue he’s my dad and said he’s actually joining the legion

[fresh cosmos]

Lucy can be really naive but that brief exchange of smile with Roger was really somethin. I really liked it.

[long valve]

poor Roger though, man was on the verge of turning

also felt bad for Martha since she turned after being released

[crimson anchor]

so dhskas, team wendy helmets, Ops-Core FAST Gunsight Mandible, and Trijicon MGRS® sight exist lol

[small linden]

Dawg look at my NCR 😭😭😭 we losing the dam

[tulip cave]

I would drop the show if happens. No faction I hate more than the Legion

[crimson anchor]

dawg thats a better fit than 99.99% of mojave troops

[fresh cosmos]

I dont mind them looking like this since they're remnants.

[crimson anchor]

too bad he gets sniped like 5 seconds later

[small linden]

Yea I mean it looks sick but they got wiped lmao

[long valve]

wait Dane is the 4th known non-binary character?

who's the third since Burke and Orlando were the first two?

[small linden]

Codsworth cameo was sick and so was the lore for Vault boy

[fresh cosmos]

Maybe I gotta rewatch the series because I do not remember that image above. Granted I went to sleep at like 4 in the morning after I binged all 8 episodes lol

[long valve]

Vault Boy barely has any lore

we learned NOTHING about him

[small linden]

? Hé is based on Howard

[long valve]

well that's all about it we know of him from the show. we don't know anything else about him

[small linden]

Yes that’s what I said the lore from the show

Wish we saw a fat man being used

[long valve]

the mini nuke exists

so do the various Pip-Boy models such as 3000 MK IV, 2000 MK VI, and what else the 3000 from 3/NV?

[crimson anchor]

rpd boy was wearing an airsoft mask lol

[tribal belfry]

How powerful would vault 76 dwellers be in the tv show

[crimson anchor]

they wipe the floor with every factions innards its not even close

[tribal belfry]

Wbt the other protags of other games

[long valve]

considering they're mutated to shit and highly irradiated

[tribal belfry]

Bloodied fixer builds will destroy everything

I think Lucy is just the outlier out of all the protags. She just happens to be weaker

[long valve]

they should make a non-canon episode of the 76 dwellers being ghouls and killing everything while jumping high asf, shooting fast, healing from wounds, and being high as fuck from their chems

[tribal belfry]

Like the sole survivor for example took out a deathclaw on their first day probably

[crimson anchor]

tommy gun from 1920s with pasgt helmet from 1990s very nice

[tribal belfry]

Eating corpses, nuking places, building things

[long valve]

even Cooper would be like "now what in the fuck are these ghouls if they're killing everything faster than I can?"

[rare acorn]

There's a modern combat helmet on one NCR, like something they'd be wearing in Afghanistan post 2010s

[tribal belfry]

Would they be ghouls tho?

[long valve]

most 76ers are highly irradiated

so maybe? (and its intentional as well since they have magical bloodied guns and Unyielding armor that makes them damn near unkillable)

[tribal belfry]

Well if it’s not a bloodied build then no

[crimson anchor]

my boy in PA dual wielding las pistols

[tribal belfry]

But I guarantee every one of them will have the weirdest outfits

[warm ermine]

alright I'm typing up discussions in my effort to clarify timelines lol

[tribal belfry]

If it’s 9 years after fallout 4 then I’m guessing the sole survivor is still alive

[long valve]

when are we getting a Protectron?

[tribal belfry]

What are they doing? Being general of the minutemen?

[long valve]

we saw a Mister Handy, dead Assaultron, saw a brain on a Roomba (basically a lesser Robobrain). oh and no Sentry Bot

[tribal belfry]

Well imagine having Lucy fight a sentry bot. Won’t go well

[long valve]

she can outrun a Protectron

[crimson anchor]

i hate the whole power armor weld defect plot hole

[long valve]

also when the hell have Mister Handy's been larger than a human since Snip Snap was massive asf?

feels weird seeing Fallout in its normal graphics and live action

[warm ermine]

They're pretty big

[long valve]

already got used to live action Fallout show which are CGI and practical effects I forgor what video game Fallout looks like

[rich iron]

Video game fallout is more disappointing than the show.

[long valve]

the show is so good I forget what gameplay is like

[warm ermine]

Honestly yeah the show kind of is ruining the games for me lmao for seeing how cool stuff looks realistically

Now I need a creepy realism fo5

[long valve]

FUCK. Why did they have to go so hard on the prop design? 😭

[tribal belfry]

Fallout 5 better have these graphics or else I’m rioting. Waiting until 2030s for this

[rich iron]

The outfits at Filly were fricken awesome. We need some sort of custom armour designer in fallout 5.

[pure crest]

Do you know what the word nothing means?

[warm ermine]

I would sell my entire body of organs to go to a nuka world esque place

[pure crest]

We absolutely learned the origins of Vault Boy, that is not nothing

[rich iron]

Dont let Snip Snip hear that.

[tribal belfry]

Eventually fallout 5 will take longer than gta 6 to come out

[long valve]

same Dolce, same

[warm ermine]

matt berry can have whatever he wants to bring me to nuka world

[meager basin]

nuka world pre war or post war

[long valve]

But I thought more, not just how his thumbs up came from Cooper

[pure crest]

Please don't let them further decide Fo4 canon

[warm ermine]

hmm tough decision

[rich iron]

Got to be post war nuka world. The raiders really add to it.
Definitely not biased.

[tribal belfry]

Seeing vault 4s experiments makes me realize how horrifying it would be to see other game vaults irl

[meager basin]

they will most likely decide a fo4 canon when 5 is released. 1, 2, and 3, all have canon decisions (TV show will likely canonize the NV ending in season 2)

[warm ermine]

post war without the threat of dying

[tribal belfry]

Like I can’t imagine seeing vault 87s experiments in a tv show

[pure crest]

Do we even know 5 is on the east coast?

[warm ermine]

We know absolutely nothing about 5

[pure crest]

Big assumption there yeah

[meager basin]

I'd bet a decent amount that it'll take place there, since when 5 comes out the previous fallout project would have been west coast

[rare acorn]

The scene where the bos are walking through the NCR HQ in a line of 3 mowing down everyone was probably the coolest thing I've seen in awhile

[long valve]

sucks the games will never look that cool

[rich iron]

Got to give credit to the NCR bannerman, charging them with his flag.

[rare acorn]

They made the armors look so good

[long valve]

goddammit now I want somebody to make a mod for 4 based on the show but with some more interactivity

[tribal belfry]

They need to make the vaults bigger

[warm ermine]

So much in the show just looked infinitely cooler than in game

[long valve]

but the mod gives us three characters to play as, either Maximus, the Ghoul, or Lucy

[long valve]

FUCKING THIS

Everything looks so much better than Creation Engine's graphics for very obvious reasons

[warm ermine]

playing the games is going to feel like a nostalgia for the show

[long valve]

we need her tank top/armor as an outfit in 76 please please please please

[long valve]

which is very funny considering it came out literally 24 hours ago

[warm ermine]

It's got me in an absolute chokehold

[meager basin]

I mean id bet actual money that 5 will have a vault 33 jumpsuit in it

[rare acorn]

I like how they teased the death claw and super mutants

[rich iron]

The price of binging the show is that we now have no more show to watch right now.

[warm ermine]

oh yeah that reminds me

[long valve]

UGH its going to be so hard playing the games since we have to play them and be the protag instead of watching someone else do it

[warm ermine]

I was right its like a mutant picture

and the left still looks like fuckin hanhock

[meager basin]

is there a picture of kimball on the altar?

[rich iron]

We never even found out why the fuck she was worshipped.

[rich iron]

Or why she was called th flame mother.

[long valve]

idk why that episode was labeled as "sexual content" there was no sex at all besides the first episode

[warm ermine]

yeah whats the background of flame mother

[warm ermine]

it has boobs

[rare acorn]

What's up with the cult anyways tho in ncr

[long valve]

that should have counted as just nudity

[meager basin]

they're all sort of insane, and think worshipping the people that died in shady sands will bring back the NCR

[warm ermine]

was that episode 5? where max is talking about his junk exploding

[rare acorn]

6

[long valve]

I think it was episode 6, The Trap

[rich iron]

It doesn't come across as insane. More like... honouring the dead.

[warm ermine]

I'm already mixing them up

[meager basin]

I mean they were drinking blood

[warm ermine]

I swear it happens to other guys not me

[rare acorn]

6 was the best episode imo besides the final scenes in 8 with the battle

[rich iron]

Cooper eats butt jerky, he aint insane.

[warm ermine]

this scene was the funniest

[long valve]

I wish we can take off our Pip-Boy like Lucy can

[dense owl]

Well game vs reality.

[rare acorn]

There was so many jokes like that that caught me off guard lol

[long valve]

also wish the HUD for the T-60 had the compass in the middle, it had the HP, armor status, fusion core charge, and AP

[dense owl]

Folks complain about file size already so imagine trying to make a fallout title with CGI level graphics

[warm ermine]

what cryo science shit did you do, girl

[meager basin]

the incest joke in ep 2 took me completely off guard

[long valve]

The jokes fit well in the games

[rare acorn]

Be cool if the power armor helmets face plate opens up in fo5

[warm ermine]

I'm going through my screenshots now dont mind me

[hexed cosmos]

I wonder if she took something like what Thaddeus did

[rich iron]

How did you take screen shots?

[long valve]

I hope her name stays as Dogmeat

[rare acorn]

Didnt you watch the episode?

[warm ermine]

if you remove uh graphic acceleration on google chrome you can screenshot prime

[long valve]

because CX404 isn't cute enough and she is already best girl

[tribal belfry]

When’s season 2

[warm ermine]

right now

[long valve]

no clue. its not even in pre-production yet

[meager basin]

so was vault 4 attempting to interbreed humans with wasteland creatures or something?

[rich iron]

That was funny, they put in effort not to call them dogmeat in all the promotional material, then clearly caved.
No one is gonna remember the dogs proper name anyway.

[warm ermine]

hope you all liked that cameo of fallout nerds they did

[hexed cosmos]

Yeah....still really confused

[rare acorn]

Pretty sure Maldover or whatever her name is is from Vault 31 and that's how she knows Lucy's dad, cuz they both went into cryo

[tribal belfry]

This is gonna make a lot of money there’s no way they don’t plan for a second season

[meager basin]

pretty sure season 2 is greenlighted already

[long valve]

aslo they're draining our wallets

[rich iron]

That scene was more or less Fallout; The IT crowd.

[warm ermine]

I was embarrassed and ashamed

[tribal belfry]

And using that money for elder scrolls

[tulip cave]

Peak incoming

[rich iron]

What?

[rare acorn]

It's awesome that we got the ghouls outfit in 76, I hope they add lucys armored vault suit too and some other cool things like maybe weapon skins, or even just add the ghouls jet propelled revolver

[bright badge]

Is it free or are they selling it for atoms

[meager basin]

I mean do they really need the money for elder scrolls? Todd's sold skyrim enough times at this point he doesnt need the money

[warm ermine]

whats new nuka

[tribal belfry]

We even got a new ally from the bos carrying that thing

[rare acorn]

It's free and you can get an ally for free that's like the Bos squire with the big back pack

[long valve]

New-Nuka? idk

[hexed cosmos]

Fallout 1st

[bright badge]

New coke reference

[hexed cosmos]

I think its the new bottles....or new coke

[rare acorn]

True it's "free" if you own f1st

[bright badge]

That's scummy

[long valve]

oh the rocket bottle?

[warm ermine]

this closeup of his face freaked me the fuck out

[rich iron]

Does anyone here actually own Fallout 1st?

[brittle vortex]

welp, season 2 is gonna cannonize the new vegas ending, thats just fucking wild

[warm ermine]

I do

[long valve]

oh that was painful with them ripping each other's fingies

[rich iron]

I'm sorry to hear that.

[bright badge]

12 dollars is too high for a show skin

[meager basin]

so, what are the 3 protagonists SPECIAL stats

[long valve]

its 50% off until May something?

[tribal belfry]

Yeah and I am ashamed of it

[long valve]

so its $6.99 til May 9th

[tulip cave]

Scene made me hate the ghoul for a bit. Then he killed those "lawmen" and then I liked him again

[warm ermine]

he shot one in the butt

[long valve]

god he was a mixed bag but I love him regardless

[dense owl]

Gonna have to check shelter for that

[rare acorn]

No way that was the real main NCR HQ right

[long valve]

remnants

I think the rest of the NCR may still be struggling over at Nevada

[rare acorn]

I mean even still shady sands wasn't all of NCR it was just the capital, there's still the boneyard, hub and San Francisco

[brittle vortex]

dude if shady sands was that advanced, there is no way the rest of the ncr is just kaput

[warm ermine]

this was a silly screen

[rare acorn]

Why

[brittle vortex]

although you cant seem to see camp mcarren in the new vegas shot..

[meager basin]

If I had to guess most of the NCR at this point is in the Hub

[rare acorn]

Yea, but also

[rich iron]

Max is probably 8, 4, 10, 1, 2, 6, 4.
Lucy: 4, 6, 5, 7, 9, 4, 8
Cooper: 6, 10, 10, 1, 5, 10, 10.

[rare acorn]

NV is destroyed so like what happened there, there's NCR vertibirds on the ground and securitrons

[crimson anchor]

agility is too high and charisma is too low

[long valve]

she failed the rizz check

[rich iron]

For one one blob?

[crimson anchor]

for cooper

[rich iron]

Also, who says nv is destroyed? We cant see it up close.
Cooper was firing shots like its no ones buisness, and even if he was charismatic once, he sure as shit aint now.

[rare acorn]

I think the funniest scene in this show actually for me was when maximus is going on his first mission with Titus and Titus is just like "SET US DOWN IM BORED I WANNA SHOOT SOMETHING" and they just happen to end up near the target

[long valve]

pre-war he had that rizz

Titus kinda deserved his death though

[meager basin]

What probably happened is once Shady Sands got nuked, NCR remnants attacked NV (Indepednent ending, but the courier blew up the fort securitrons), and they lost, but the city was destroyed as a result, there's still communities around NV in that final shot, but the city itself might be inhospitable at this point like Dust

[rich iron]

He didn't deserve to be killed by Maximus, the little shit though.

[crimson anchor]

ncr vertibird right outside of the lucky 38

[long valve]

wait the Strip is inhospitable?

[rare acorn]

I think it's funny that it's Michael Rapaport

[crimson anchor]

from the looks of it, yeah its a ghost town

[brittle vortex]

i hope freeside is still around

[long valve]

damn, so maybe House is dead?

[rich iron]

We'll see. I dont think its deserted. Unless the tunnelers got there. But whats the chances of Ulysses ever being right?

[long valve]

he wouldn't be running the Strip if the Lucky 38 is dead

[brittle vortex]

im gonna assume the courier capping him is cannon

[rich iron]

They wouldn't of bothered giving him an actor then teasing new vegas if House was dead.

[meager basin]

eh 50/50, would be funny if one of the protags finds his body with the mark of a tire iron on his head next season tho

[crimson anchor]

they made new vegas so much more bigger than the one in game

[long valve]

console limitations

the Strip would have been much larger if 360 and PS3 didn't have weak limitations

[meager basin]

well all the games are downsized compared to their real life counterparts

[long valve]

damn the Tops as well

[meager basin]

else it would take actual real life days to traverse the whole map (like Daggerfall)

[rich iron]

Those were good days.

[brittle vortex]

new vegas is lacking its overpasses

[crimson anchor]

the strip north gate

[rich iron]

The colour scheme is giving me Fallout dust ptsd.

[odd wedge]

somebody forced their way in

[meager basin]

overpasses may be more spread out since the ending would have actual, true to scale NV

[rich iron]

It would be cruel to tease new vegas, and then give us a ghost town. They've killed Shady Sands, surely they wound'nt kill Vegas?

[long valve]

Tunnelers may have escaped the Divide

[meager basin]

well theres communities around NV, the whole region isn't a ghost town, just downtown

[rich iron]

Ulysses has literally been wrong about everything else.

If tunnelers have spread, America is fucked.

[meager basin]

imagine he shows up next season

[odd wedge]

Hoping the Boomers get to showcase their Bomber next season

[brittle vortex]

also, what are we speculating hank/henry is looking for in vegas

[crimson anchor]

its defo not tunnelers, because theres a gate breach

[meager basin]

House's tech and/or Big MT

[crimson anchor]

mr house. hes a major figure in the whole vault tec scheme

[long valve]

was

[rich iron]

... Are we going to find out why House sealed off parts of 21?

[rare acorn]

The lore is different now cuz it says shady sands got nuked in 2277 so before LR can even happen, plus it was vault tec somehow

[long valve]

he isn't alive if the Strip has been compromised

[rich iron]

If the strip has been compromised the 38 could still hold.

[meager basin]

Imagine an entire episode next season is just Ulysses lecturing the protagonists on the bear and the bull for a full straight hour

[long valve]

production error, it should've been 2287 or something? but 2277 was when things when down

[crimson anchor]

again, the fall of shady sands =/= shady sands nuked

[rare acorn]

I don't like how theyre making vault tec the trigger for the war

[odd wedge]

He might have knowledge of the Divide and the nukes it has as well, and being a Vault Tec rep, he will do anything to get civilizations decimated

[rich iron]

Nah not the bear and the bull. The 33 and the 32.

[odd wedge]

yeah, it really is a continuity error

[crimson anchor]

"damnit you fuckers this is the third time im telling you, youre even more stubborn than the last guy who was here"

[rare acorn]

Wdym

[long valve]

"I cant have my own kids? okay bye wife"
nukes Shady Sands

[brittle vortex]

yeah but like, it seems weird that they would make it so that shady sands has "fallen" before the events of NV, theres no reference to the place being in bad condition in NV if memory serves

[rich iron]

"I nuked shady sands cause Karen took the kids."

[rare acorn]

Ya that's so dumb lol

[hexed cosmos]

So are people gonna review bomb this show now?

[meager basin]

wasn't the reason he nuked them was because he wanted to restart civilization on his own terms, and didn't want the NCR beating him to it?

[rare acorn]

They really nuked shady sands over a divorce smh

[crimson anchor]

wait

so courier 6 was following ulysses trail thru sierra madre, big mt, and the divide

what if the fallout show protags are following courier sixes trail when trying to find the company execs

[long valve]

after watching the show, I wish the guns could instant kill

[rich iron]

I aint, you?

[crimson anchor]

bloody mess

[hexed cosmos]

Im gonna make a review but not do that

[crimson anchor]

fnv fanboys will. they dont touch grass

[odd wedge]

Nah, Courier 6 is just another cog in the machinery

[meager basin]

so far it doesn't look like its happened yet, lowest rated episode currently is episode 3

[long valve]

we need to see radscorpions and mole rats

[brittle vortex]

ouch

[rich iron]

Realistic looking centaurs.

[rare acorn]

Did you guys notice they had both types of 10mm pistols, they got the fo4 shaped ones and the classic design

[hexed cosmos]

Its true though the existence of grass in the franchise ruins it for many

[rare acorn]

The gulper lore drop was nasty

[long valve]

probably for the west only?

[hexed cosmos]

Yeah for some reason that bothers me more than the NCR

[meager basin]

how tf did they create the gulper

[long valve]

Gulpers have existed in the east coast without anything from Vault 4

[hexed cosmos]

I like my mutant animals the way they are thank you very much

[crimson anchor]

the meeting in episode 8 has: vault tec, west tek, repconn, big mt, sierra madre, and rob co

aside from vault tec and west tek, the other 4 can all be found in Fallout: New Vegas

[rare acorn]

Tbf they look way different on the east, like over grown salamanders

[meager basin]

that specific gulper is different from the Far Harbor ones

[brittle vortex]

i do think the way shady sands went out is kinda dumb, but the show suprisingly showed a decent ammount of love to the west coast lore

[rare acorn]

The ranger armor cameo was noice

[brittle vortex]

that caught me off guard yeah

[rare acorn]

Also big mt

They are clearly referencing NV while at the same time changing some things about it imo

[crimson anchor]

I WANT TO SEE THE SHI

[brittle vortex]

i was kinda upset when i was halfway through ep 8 and nobody had made any sort reference to vegas, but that ending really got me stoked

[meager basin]

NV seems to be the game they've referenced the most so far, and 2 the least

[brittle vortex]

so like, its either house or independent ending right?

[meager basin]

most likely yeah

[brittle vortex]

wonder if we will get any nv character cameos

[meager basin]

we technically already have since House and Sinclair appeared in the last episdoe

[brittle vortex]

ig i mean like, arcade or the king or something]

[long valve]

was Sinclair always fat then?

[rare acorn]

I believe it was independent ending cuz of the chaos

[long valve]

The independent without Securitrons from the Fort?

[rare acorn]

That's assuming these endings are even relevant

Might change up what happened with NV too

[brittle vortex]

i mean, they sorta cannonized the ending of 4

[rare acorn]

Highest clerics of the Commonwealth sent the airship right

[brittle vortex]

i would be suprised if they went in another direction besides a cannon ending

[meager basin]

did they? Iirc they don't really make reference to 4 at all

[brittle vortex]

in the first or second ep one of the BOS dudes says something about high clerics of the commonwealth giving them either order or supplies or something

[meager basin]

if that's the case 4's ending would be narrowed down to 2 possibilties. Although I thought Todd told the team not to canonize an ending for 4 yet

[brittle vortex]

i would assume that means they won and set up a permenant spot there, because the BOS force we see in fallout 4 was like strictly a military force or whatever

[brittle vortex]

what other ending could it be? i didnt play as much of 4 and i thought the BOS wouldnt tolerate any other faction

[meager basin]

Minuteman ending but without the BoS being destroyed (which is possible)

[brittle vortex]

true but the way these live action BOS dudes talk about ruling/protecting the wasteland, i dont see a peacefull cohabitation

but ye thats just speculation

[meager basin]

I don't think the BoS gives a shit about the Minuteman so long as they wouldn't interfere with synth hunting

[brittle vortex]

also wtf was a brotherhood knight doing at ground zero of shady sands seemingly minutes after the blast to meet young maximus

[rare acorn]

Also these bos guys wiped out filly

[meager basin]

Lost hills isn't that far from Shady Sands, they prolly saw the nuke go off and went to check it out

[brittle vortex]

fair

[long valve]

for some reason I feel the show somehow took away my motivation or will to play any of the Fallout games

like I had to force myself on 76 for the daily challenges for score and turn in my treasury notes

[pure crest]

Same

And I was just getting back into 4

Between this and the update, I'm no longer so interested

[long valve]

maybe the next gen update on the 25th might be enough

[pure crest]

I'm not interested in getting 50-100 hours into Fo4 before the update breaks all my mods

[long valve]

there's always NV, but even then I don't have any motivation to finish Lonesome Road and do the battle of hoover dam

[pure crest]

Somehow I feel like that was the point

[long valve]

maybe in honor of season 2 taking place in the Mojave, I should finish my run

[dense owl]

It didn’t.

Shady Sands and the republic started going downhill then it was nuked later.

[rare acorn]

Oh I see what you mean actually

I thought it was implying that's when it got nuked cuz there's no date on the mushroom cloud

[bright badge]

This is also retroactive, so fall can be interpreted in more than a few ways

[warm ermine]

I’m truly convinced the lack of an actual date was rage bait to get people talking lol

[bright badge]

I mean Todd knows marketing

[brittle vortex]

theres no reference to shady sands being in a bad state in new vegas

[dense owl]

shady sands fell heavily when the brotherhood destroyed the gold supply and crippled the ncrs wellbeing

[unborn spoke]

I feel we are all going to interpret the NCR in ever a variety of ways now

[bright badge]

He also knows a third of Bethesda fans pretend to hate it

[bright badge]

I mean Nolan brother worked on it, kinda their trademark

[unborn spoke]

I interpret it as the NCR are still a powerhouse but their capital moved to the Hub

[dense owl]

Ncr brotherhood war, GI blues states that shady sands is no longer the capital of the ncr, Brahmin barons taking power, and the famine

Plus the first battle of Hoover dam, and the second upcoming, tandis death etc

[unborn spoke]

I think Fallout 5 will be NCR focused anyway due to the lack of NCR forces in the TV show

[bright badge]

I doubt it

[topaz badger]

The sign in the show seems to agree with this. It says "First Capital of the New California Republic" which would seem to imply they moved capitals for some reason.

[bright badge]

I don't think they'd require watching the show to play the next game

[unborn spoke]

Why are there not a massive ammount of forces in the first season

[long valve]

and then maybe 2280s after the second battle of Hoover Dam, Shady Sands got nuked?

[bright badge]

Idk ask Todd. I just think they'll keep a distinction of coasts

[unborn spoke]

The NCR are iconic and give the series iconic iconography

[bright badge]

A lot of things do, it's a versatile franchise

[unborn spoke]

The reason why they are not there maybe to do with bethesda removing them and having it for Fallout 5

[brittle vortex]

how can the NCR/shady sands "fall" when we see in lucys flashback that it was pretty much a paradise as a far as the wasteland goes? thats what i dont understand

[unborn spoke]

Rangers have a big screen presence

[dense owl]

divided, same reason we don’t see full ncr in Vegas

[bright badge]

I mean compare it to the fall of rome

[dense owl]

same way the republic of rome or Germany Fell to Hitlers reign

[bright badge]

It can appear ideal but there's a lot of factors inside the ncr harming it. Like the aforementioned brahmin barons

Who were trying to form an oligarchy within the ncr and were killing people to do it

[brittle vortex]

okay but what we were seeing was still a happy functional community though

nothing about that looked "fallen"

[bright badge]

^

You missed the point. Aesthetic Observations don't include all factors or facets of a society. Especially from a single perspective

[unborn spoke]

The NCR still exist most likley and they probably have a functional society in different major towns and cities

[brittle vortex]

there was infastructure, and working public transportation, it was the most functional city above ground, i just dont see the word fall being apropriate for it idk

[bright badge]

Fall can mean a lot of things in the context of a society tbf

[brittle vortex]

like regardless if there was corruption that was a functional city seemingly

[brittle vortex]

yeah

[long valve]

post series depression hitting hard

[unborn spoke]

The NCR don't have nuclear defnece technology so thats why it was so drastic

[bright badge]

Idk the NCRs main issue is it became increasingly dysfunctional as it expanded. And it expanded due to demands from it's politicians causing a loop

[rare acorn]

Wonder where the nuke came from tho

[unborn spoke]

Imagine it being like Hiroshima, very modern city but then gets obliterated

[brittle vortex]

i also think that, if shady sands was that advanced then theres no way its other 4 states are that bad off

[long valve]

its Vault Tec, they had hidden silos I'd imagine

[bright badge]

Vault city is probably fine

[brittle vortex]

unless hank also nuked those offscreen

[unborn spoke]

He probs dosn't know about them

[unborn spoke]

New Reno may of joined the NCR also so include that

[brittle vortex]

im still a little blown away with how advanced shady sands was

they were even printing new fancy signage

[rare acorn]

I mean they had laser walls in fo2

[brittle vortex]

public libraries

[lost wedge]

Lmao, I saw Goodsprings!

[brittle vortex]

i couldnt really see camp mcarren in that last show of vegas

it could be the angle though, that we are viewing it from the north

[rare acorn]

Well the city itself is different than in game, looks more like the concept art tbh

[brittle vortex]

yeah i couldnt really make out the shapes of the other casinos

[rare acorn]

I saw signage for the Tops

[lost wedge]

The outskirts look great, but yeah it's hard to tell inside.

[rare acorn]

It's kinda wild t51b didn't get mentioned at all

Or shown in a flash back for coop

[brittle vortex]

i hope we just get some mystieous stranger in one next season

[long valve]

Clean this.
throws the crotch piece

[rare acorn]

Imagine that tho lol

[long valve]

I wish Lucy at least did a few random quests for caps, but nah she is still broke at 0 caps to her name

[rare acorn]

The crotch piece hazing ritual is funny

[rare acorn]

Her main quest is over now, time for side quests

[long valve]

nuh uh

[rare acorn]

Oh wait ya her dad is still alive

[long valve]

she installed the DLC's mid game. Its like Broken Steel

[native dagger]

turns out part of the show was filmed in Nambia, fun fact

[lost wedge]

very subtitle, yeah.
And Dane at the end, I kept trying to remember if a Synth can
||bleed|| ! 🩸

[long valve]

"Father, Why Have You Forsaken Me?"

• Follow your Dad and kill him at any cost.

[pure crest]

||No, the NCR as a whole is framed as having collapsed||

[long valve]

we're on EP 8 chat

[unborn spoke]

I don't think it has but more of that chapter of the NCR have

[long valve]

I think its okay to say anything about all 8 episodes in this one

[pure crest]

God, I hate what this show has done to Fallout canon

[daring pilot]

You can go minute with bos + rail