Starfield

[amber kraken]

No

That's 0 meters on a random gen

Cause it's random gen

[random valve]

On an actual planet? No more than a few hundred of empty space

[dense solstice]

Makes sense. If apple got us into space and saved us from damnation we’d be using it a lot

Just wait a day

[amber kraken]

An apple todav vs an apple 15 years ago are barely similar

[dense solstice]

Yet we still use similar space ship designs

Plus the whole thing with technological stagnation. No point trying to improve on Slates or computers given how good they are

[amber kraken]

But tech DID improve
Extremely rapidly after the ship left

[dense solstice]

Ship tech maybe.

[amber kraken]

All tech. They shouldn't even be using the same OS. Fuck their raido couldn't be deciphered by modern tech

The raido. A tech weve had for 100 years now

[atomic gull]

The delay I mean

[balmy crater]

cant be bothere with the forced 30 second wait time ui lmao

[random valve]

It's like trying to send a text with a fax machine though

[atomic gull]

setgs iSecondsToSleepPerUpdate 20000

So good

[balmy crater]

thats the command? lol

[amber kraken]

It's a raido. Their encodings couldn't be picked up. Their computers didn't even speak the same language

[atomic gull]

[dense solstice]

Heads up using commands will flag your save as modded so no achievements. Just sit down next to them or in their chair or sleep since sleeping doesn’t require the loading

[balmy crater]

yoink

heads up baka enable achievement lol

[atomic gull]

I use Starfield Achievement Enabler

[dense solstice]

Good luck

[amber kraken]

Hell yeah

[balmy crater]

dont need luck its science

[amber kraken]

I'm playing on cloud till I get a new pc and mods become real

[dense solstice]

I mean using mods currently without any tools.

[balmy crater]

i know im just being a pest

[dense solstice]

Especially with updates comin

[atomic gull]

Yay space powers

[amber kraken]

Space powers?

[atomic gull]

[dense solstice]

Need to get type c parts for 50ly jumps

[amber kraken]

Need C parts for a reactor worth a damn

[dense solstice]

eh most reactors work fine it’s just type c has best reserves and jump but heavy mobility costs

[feral wyvern]

You can rotate them to point forward.

[atomic gull]

[feral wyvern]

||Ember the Nasa base uses the same technology as modern bases.||

[amber kraken]

The shuttle had basically 0 crossover with the Apollo program

[dense solstice]

wasn’t Apollo

[amber kraken]

And Constant isn't the ship I just built an hour ago

Uses the same OS tho

[atomic gull]

Maybe it was

[dense solstice]

Constant left very shortly before the whole incident and mass evacuation

[amber kraken]

Tall

Also why do ship's have gravity

[balmy crater]

so much science!

[atomic gull]

Grav drive destroy it and they don't

[amber kraken]

Oooooo

[atomic gull]

@balmy crater found that classic fallout 4 easter egg

[atomic gull]

[atomic gull]

Finally something good from a master chest

[atomic gull]

Can finally use those coffee bags I was hoarding

[amber kraken]

Butter cofveve

[feral wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743994815661736069/1157789849558994994/Screenshot_236.png?ex=6519e352&is=651891d2&hm=e122025ed412ca752ae3793092ed7b6def9751e518531f1133b1bf55ee9c40e1&

Obligatory bald meme.

Apparently an unedited screenshot.

[glacial hamlet]

my eyes!!

[atomic gull]

Same energy

[tawny kernel]

if you mean bringing them along, no.

unfortunately, Bethesda once again doesn't want to go all out, so Xenosociology is sort of a wasted perk. Bummer, really. It's got a ridiculous investment requirement.

Helmets are designed for the vacuum of space, not for sudden, sharp impacts of a melee weapon.

[dusty yarrow]

Dang, wish I could at least have one on my ship

I won't say anything without spoiler tags, but I just learned the truth of the big Terrormorph mystery and holy fucking shit

Absolutely did not see that coming

I had so many theories in my head and none of them came close

Haven't finished that quest yet though, so I still don't know ||why they attacked New Atlantis and Tau Ceti||

(UC Vanguard major spoilers ahead)||In hindsight, it makes sense that it would be the leeches, but they just didn't hold enough relevance in my head for me to think of that||

||They're the only other creature known to live everywhere in the settled systems||

||Before I started this quest, I was thinking it would be cool to have a friendly pet heatleech on my ship but I must say I'm starting to have second thoughts||

[atomic gull]

[atomic gull]

[feral wyvern]

space adept

Literally the worst effect.

[atomic gull]

Indeed

Found an instigating one instead

[feral wyvern]

Instigating is only good on high damage weapons.

[atomic gull]

[balmy crater]

I cant seem to find my damn ship

it says its there but it aint and if I try to jump it just puts me right back where I was

[dense solstice]

Lmao get yoinked

[balmy crater]

wtf lmao

[dense solstice]

Really fast travel to another location either off the planet or on

[balmy crater]

probs sarahs doing since ive been neglecting

im gonna have to steal these peoples ship lol

[atomic gull]

[balmy crater]

I killed them for nothing lmao

[glacial hamlet]

oh I hate that

[balmy crater]

Im stuck on this deserted shit planet until i make or find some adaptive frames lol

[dense solstice]

Switch your ships out then

Fast travel to a city

[balmy crater]

it doesnt let me leave the planet lolk

[dense solstice]

Overencumbered?

[balmy crater]

nope unequiped quests allies you name it

just let me leave lmao

[dense solstice]

Should be able to fast travel to settlements without need of a ship to grav jump

[balmy crater]

idk wtf is going on if its intended or what but im just going to continue until I can build a landing pad and change home ship

[balmy crater]

managed to change home ship and that seems to work but when I go back to try to use that ship it wont populate at all just the icon..even tried to change the name new save but nothing

[dusty yarrow]

It's morphin' time!

Some of these npcs make me feel a little uncomfy

[atomic gull]

[atomic gull]

Stealth = John Wick mode

[atomic gull]

Oh Beth ....

Stealth kills said was at 38/40 wasn't going up

Clicked ranked up and worked

[dense solstice]

Hehe

[dusty yarrow]

My friend finished this game at 110 hours, I'm at 125 and I don't think I'm anywhere fucking close

Absolutely does not feel like it's been 125 hours

[dense solstice]

Finishing one part

[atomic gull]

162 hours so far

[dense solstice]

Still got ||10 more runs to go||

[cursive haven]

i did it in 110 hours to sort of

and i completely ignored the FC in that run

also not even counting NG+

basically 110 hours and i only saw the UC lol

[atomic gull]

I've never been to Neon

[atomic gull]

glowy things

[feral wyvern]

Lego ship.

[atomic gull]

Cool design

[feral wyvern]

I play on the highest difficulty.

And it still chunks.

You can fully power the shields, engines, and two weapons with my setup.

[balmy crater]

I didnt know you were rich!

[amber kraken]

Jesus Christ they actually have real sniper rifles

[atomic gull]

landed on Neon after 168 hours

[dense solstice]

Bastard

Haven’t found a single special hard target

Powerful as hell but damn I need more

[dense solstice]

Haven’t found the Lawgiver or Magsniper I take it?

[amber kraken]

Lawgiver isn't satisfying

Mag sniper no

[humble grail]

There's also the VSS Vintorez/Old Earth Hunting Rifle

[dense solstice]

Idk lawgiver is very satisfying

[feral wyvern]

No.

Looks dumb.

[dense solstice]

Nuh uh

Need the rail mount with the scope

[feral wyvern]

I'll put twelve rails on it.

Then mount them all with three attachments each.

I'll put rails on my rail attachments.

[dense solstice]

Yes

[atomic gull]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/seagate-giveaway

[west kernel]

its so pretty

[atomic gull]

I found it funny though cos Starfield recommends ssd to run it on

[atomic gull]

Social gave me extra credits

[feral wyvern]

Hoodless is better.

[languid venture]

Hoodless horseman

[dense solstice]

Idk hooded is dope

[glacial hamlet]

I think this will be my final ship

[cursive haven]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

[amber kraken]

bote

[dusty yarrow]

Only took me 125 hours to learn that my ship has thrusters

I've been piloting wrong this entire time

Would've been useful if I had known this a month ago

[amber kraken]

Yeah this game has shit tooltips

[dense solstice]

You’re literally told about thrusters when you started..

You were asked to use them Lmao

[atomic gull]

You can only use thrusters with piloting 1 though

[amber kraken]

^^

which combat medic and others aint got

[dense solstice]

They’re used to break off target lock and when upgraded to max break off enemy lock entirely for a few seconds

As well as providing bursts of speed

~~and the icon is literally in the bottom right of the flight ring Lmao

[random valve]

Gives you a tutorial tho

[amber kraken]

thats boost thrusters are up down left right fkat

[atomic gull]

Sneaking pretty fun in Starfield

[amber kraken]

My silenced gatling gun does pretty good at stealth

[atomic gull]

[amber kraken]

[dense solstice]

Beautiful

[atomic gull]

Well that was grim

[dusty yarrow]

I got that perk a while ago but just thought it was talking about making the ship faster or something

[amber kraken]

That ship auctualy made me cry

[atomic gull]

Lol Sarah blew up bog

[amber kraken]

Huh?

[dense solstice]

That’s rank 2

[dense solstice]

Lol. Jakes Hangover Cure

Earliest available Big Bang

[amber kraken]

wat

[dense solstice]

Earliest available big bang

[amber kraken]

whats a big bang

[dense solstice]

Particle Shotgun

[dusty yarrow]

Well, it never gave me any tips talking about controls or anything so yea

Literally this entire time I thought you could only maneuver the ship by pointing it in the direction you want to go ;_;

I was less focused on the earlier ranks of those perks because I wanted to be able to fly class B as soon as possible

Pro tip: you can use the Vanguard ship simulator to progress through that perk’s challenges

I’ve been avoiding any and all youtube videos with any bit of relevance to starfield in any way like the plague, so I’m completely on my own with tips and gotta hope that anyone in this channel uses spoiler tags

[dense solstice]

Check help section often

[dusty yarrow]

That’s true, I forgot this game has a help menu

[dense solstice]

Really hope NG+ ups the values of base gear would love an advanced Acid Rain

[west kernel]

https://i.imgur.com/1AwNXHD.jpeg

[tawny kernel]

the lack of gore kind of plummets the darkness of the scene, honestly.

[atomic gull]

[random valve]

That Adam Driver meme outlasted the earth

[atomic gull]

Fun times in space xd

[atomic gull]

https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield/article/5IleyfqI44NacBQGGC20Km/starfield-updates-1-7-36-october-09-2023

[humble grail]

Game just updated

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1716740/view/3747615443049451133?l=english

[dense solstice]

60 lbs of armor

[atomic gull]

[dusty yarrow]

This view is fuckin sick

I haven’t done much with outposts but this moon is a top contender

I think I have to perk up to live on a no-atmosphere planet though

[atomic gull]

Depends on if it has extreme heat or cold for them moons mostly

[dusty yarrow]

So frickin cool

[feral wyvern]

Starfield patch
changes one thing

[dense solstice]

first time?

Don’t want to make many drastic changes

[feral wyvern]

incoming weather bug

[dense solstice]

Yes when doing ng+ the weapons do scale up yes

[dusty yarrow]

I’ve had that stupid symbol on my compass ever since I went to Suvarov like 2 weeks ago

[dusty yarrow]

So majestic

[west kernel]

nature is healing

[atomic gull]

So many raw materials

[dusty yarrow]

I may or may not have committed crimes against nature

[atomic gull]

Fallfield time

[dusty yarrow]

Anybody else occasionally get a pet asteroid that follows your ship around?

I thought it was intentional lol, but apparently it’s just a bug

[humble grail]

[west kernel]

yum

[atomic gull]

[glacial hamlet]

what's the point of having dialogue options if only the first option moves the story forward?

[dense solstice]

multiple RPGs do it?

And besides it’s usually the first or second that forwards it.

[glacial hamlet]

it's pretty inconsistent tbh

[dense solstice]

Standard for RPGs

Dialogue to push quest forward then fluff

Granted the fluff can have some branching paths to ask questions about x y or z

[humble grail]

People be like:
"Why is my RPG RPG-ing"

[glacial hamlet]

yeah I think my gripe is that usually the option to move forward is something out of my character

I assume there's already a mod that lets you fly starborn ships without new game plus.

[dense solstice]

You can’t exactly get in or board them without ng-+

Since it’s a vital part of the story

[feral wyvern]

Lorewise Starborn ships wouldn't respond to human input.

Lmao.

If they even let you inside.

[random valve]

^

They're individualised for the respective starborn

[dense solstice]

Besides mods currently shouldn’t mess with internal files like that unless you want a chance to break the game

[west kernel]

https://i.imgur.com/x1zsEt0.jpeg

[dense solstice]

Gonna be interesting when survival mode drops/releases

only thing I want that isn’t on the list of upcoming features minus an ability to switch traits for ng+

[humble grail]

Damn that's good

[west kernel]

watching the sunrise was neat

[atomic gull]

[glacial hamlet]

well, there goes the first playthrough

I don't know when I'll do NG+
I have spooky games to play

[dense solstice]

Get the temples done first

[glacial hamlet]

I did until Vladimir stopped giving me directions

[dense solstice]

Gotta explore now for the rest

[tawny kernel]

I prefer them releasing more weapons, especially considering how nearly devoid of anything non-ballistic.

[humble grail]

There's plently of ballistic firearms in Starfield

The only laser weapons are the arc wielder, the equinox, the solstice, and the orion

As well as the Varuun Inceptor

And the two novablast weapons

Most of the other weapons are ballistic

I do agree there should be more non-ballistics

[amber kraken]

there needs to be loooots of weapons

[atomic gull]

Still on NG+0

[dense solstice]

Rather take a limited arsenal that’s good then bloat. Besides every weapon is good here

only thing I think we need is a laser shotgun to fill the roster.

[amber kraken]

bastard stilled grape jam

[dense solstice]

Dodo dinosaur

[dense solstice]

The best quest

[dusty yarrow]

Todd wasn’t lying when he said you could board an enemy ship while it’s planetside and it’s possible for it to take off with you still aboard

It just happened to me lmao

[humble grail]

It’s sometimes glitchy

[dusty yarrow]

I’m not even sure whether this is a glitch or intentional

There was an alarm sounding, then I hit a black loading screen, and now I’m in fucking space

[humble grail]

I’ve seen some where people clip through and fall to their deaths

[dusty yarrow]

Quest logs direct me to walk through the airlock to get to my ship but I can’t use the door because my ship isn’t docked with this one, it’s still on the surface of this planet lmao

[tawny kernel]

I said Devoid of Non ballistic, meaning it's nearly empty of Lasers/ melee and particle weapons

8 melee, 4 lasers, 4 particles

the 8 melee being all 1 handed bladed weapons with no melee modification

[tawny kernel]

@humble grail Oh, my bad, thought you mistook what I meant. Tired. Yeah, there's a plethora of ballistics, but very little on anything else

feels like they were rushing a bit there. Definitely feels like the others were supposed to get a ton of weapons, judging by their focus and perk investment.

[atomic gull]

em weapons

[dense solstice]

Every weapon can be em 😉

Well most

[feral wyvern]

EM weapons are worthless.

Just let me kill.

[dense solstice]

Pacifist/stealth

plus a knocked enemy technically can’t see you allowing for sneak attacks

[tawny kernel]

Unarmed be like

[dense solstice]

Helps to upgrade that last sneak skill

Speaking of found a magazine that buffs the skill upgrading of fitness skills

Gonna be good for unarmed

[dense solstice]

stuns you permanently

Ngl love that all the melee options are blades. Because blunt items ain’t gonna be effective in space or against space suits

[feral wyvern]

I think the way stealth works in atmosphere-less planets is dumb.

It should be way easier, and weight shouldn't matter.

Sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.

[dense solstice]

I don’t think there’s any non atmo planets

[feral wyvern]

Earth.

Mars.

[dense solstice]

Earth lost its magnetosphere

[feral wyvern]

Similar planets.

[dense solstice]

they still have atmosphere >_>

Then again idk the internal workings of the stealth system

I know lighting effects it but weight and all that is unknown

[feral wyvern]

It's almost purely sound based.

So the weight of your spacesuit and shit.

[dense solstice]

thing is I doubt that given I can easily boost without any repercussions

[feral wyvern]

Imo they should disable the sound in vacuum exteriors, and rely on sight.

[dense solstice]

I did much of the ryujin line abusing boost packs and grav dash to stealth

then that would make stealth a bit too strong

[feral wyvern]

On obscure planets, sure.

[dense solstice]

The balance problem of stealth

[feral wyvern]

But as you said, most planets have an atmosphere.

[dense solstice]

Which way western man.
Stealth Archer or Sneak Sniper

[feral wyvern]

And most combat isn't in a vacuum.

[dense solstice]

I do wish you could try and sneak in zero g would be difficult but an attempt

[feral wyvern]

Yeah.

[dense solstice]

Regardless the way zero g works is incredible

[dusty yarrow]

The magstorm absolutely shreds

[atomic gull]

[feral wyvern]

So apparently you can glitch out ships so the inhabitants aren't hostile.

Then capture it with them alive.

And they're just eternally on the ship.

[atomic gull]

[tawny kernel]

a blunt weapon that's being smashed into someone's helmet, polycarbonate or not, is going to concuss heavily and cause EM damage easily.

and NGL, the lack of a pointed hammer is ridiculous, since piercing weapon with a swinging motion would be a serious threat, especially when swung with the strength to kill.

again, the suits are designed mainly to keep you safe...from space and not too extreme atmospheric pressure along with some heat/cold protection.

[dense solstice]

So fun fact that entire scene is the only way to get the constellations attire

Outside of redacted

[tawny kernel]

also, you can't say "blunt weapons not gonna work ha ha" when literally unarmed exists.

[dense solstice]

Unarmed ain’t really that effective either minus stun

[tawny kernel]

That's a gameplay issue, not a Starfield issue. It's clear as daylight they wanted Unarmed to be this monster playstyle that you invest into.

especially when they were advertising it as this "destroyer of worlds" playstyle of sending people flying.

[dense solstice]

Then again most the space suits have like ridge grooves to increase striking/penetration power

They never stated any of that?

[tawny kernel]

their trailer was literally a dev stating his favorite playstyle is physical and going ham with unarmed strikes, and the playstyle his him absolutely dominating the area while sending folks flying. In-game, it's the most demanding playstyle in the entire game with a staggering amount of skills tied to it

more so than any other weapon type in the game.

[dense solstice]

Darn the vid cut off. But @feral wyvern i sent an enemy into the skybox

The trailer talked about their favorite perk being neurostrikes with a cutaway to them punching an enemy to death in a low grav environment

Hence thr body “flying” off

[tawny kernel]

they were showing more than that, it was numerous people getting clobbered pretty easily, as a way to show that playstyle is viable.

[dense solstice]

It is with powers and magazines some strong ones

iirc one of the Kryx journals gives the ability to disarm which is huge

Speaking of I think they stack endlessly

[balmy crater]

recreating romeo and juliet with andreja

[granite galleon]

Starfield took a leap back when it comes to dialogue, the whole "zoom into a character staring at you where you cant move or exit" is very flawed and stopped after Fallout New Vegas

Why couldn't Starfield have Skyrim and Fallout 4's style of dialogue?

Where your able to actually move and skip dialogue quickly

[dense solstice]

So many coffee mugs hard to find them all

Want to say atleast 50 different types base

[granite galleon]

So @dense solstice is real time space travel and flying in atmosphere not in starfield because Bethesda wanted to be "different"? Because i don't see why its not in the game when no man's sky had it in 2016

And it can't be a hardware limitation

[amber kraken]

I blame Todd

[humble grail]

You can still skip dialogue, what

[humble grail]

They didn't want it in the game

[granite galleon]

T~T

[humble grail]

I mean I assume that was the choice

You can mod it in when they release the CK

[languid venture]

It's very simple. Nobody wants to fly for hours to do a quest.

[granite galleon]

They should atleast give us the choice

[balmy crater]

true endgame

[languid venture]

That would just honestly be a waste of space that nobody would ever use willingly.

Bethesda didn't garner an audience of space flight sim players

[amber kraken]

They should have used supercruise

Instead the game is loading screen simulator

[dense solstice]

Never heard of that

works fine as is.

[granite galleon]

Why do they show us how far something is then when we cant even go there?

[languid venture]

Because if they didn't show something.ething far away but still visible you would be complaining about that.

Think about what it is you are talking about.

[dense solstice]

Yeah

[dense solstice]

So you want to spend 17+ hours flying at sublight just to reach a destination. Weird

[humble grail]

People need to also realize that NMS is like 12 GB, its barely as big as Skyrim. Starfield is 160 GB.

NMS can afford to let you travel planet to planet seamless and even it has loading screens, because everything is more bunched together.

Its a smaller game overall

Starfield has to deliver exploration, planets, quests, choices, armors, weapons, ship, ship combat, ship building, and rpg elements

NMS only has a barebones story, exploration, and everything in the game is proc-gen

[dense solstice]

There’s a lot more than that for example Starfield has actual scripted events for random encounters and quests it has to take into account as well as clutter resources and enemy positions it has to constantly track, as well as each plants having a chance of multiple biomes whereas NMS it’s largely just a single one. Etc

Folks don’t realize what goes on behind the scenes

[humble grail]

I disagree. If bethesda were to impliment a seamless flight system they'd have to sacrifice other systems and reduce the game's size drastically to cope

[dense solstice]

besides ngl love the loads screens and how photomode works with it. Seeing an old image pop up brings back good memories

Reason why I want so badly a size increase to 76s photo mode storage

@feral wyvern what should I upgrade next

[granite galleon]

76 did it better

[dense solstice]

cool

[granite galleon]

Heck 76 did a lot more things better than starfield

And that's Fallout 76, one of the worst games of 2018

[dense solstice]

man the hard target is just too fun. Really enjoy the Lynx inspiration from it

~~although it should have a drum magazine

I do find it incredibly interesting as to how there’s no bolt or pump actions apart from the old earth shotgun. Which is most definitely based on Hicks shotgun from Alien given the MP40 grip. There’s some weapons adjacent to bolt and pump but they’re still semi automatic. Johnathon Ferguson would be proud

Deimos outfits go hard

[amber kraken]

⛔

[amber kraken]

Supercruise.
Ftl in system
Every space game has it

[dense solstice]

nope

[amber kraken]

Sorry

Every GOOD space game

[languid venture]

Nobody wants to spend 17 hours flying between 2 planets in the same system, let alone possible years between different systems.

[amber kraken]

Yall never played ED

Or aNms

[dense solstice]

yes because I didn’t find that fun

[languid venture]

Because I don't want to play a space flight sim

Bethesda doesn't make those

They make open world rpgs

[dense solstice]

there’s a decent mod that does add seemless flight but it also breaks a lot of other things currently

[languid venture]

This total fever dream that games can only have certain things to be good is totally obtuse

[dense solstice]

I love the space travel and use of it to tell stories. Like blasting a ship out of orbit to traversing its wreckage on the planet below, or meeting other strange people and beings. Plus the constant use of it to show finality towards certain quests.

Like I did groundpounder then later on during a jump met the same people whom I helped save we traded dialogue before they jumped to a new assignment. Felt great

Do wish that environmental hazards were a bit more common I get they’re not irl. But man the terror of fighting through one of those solar storms

If you haven’t done CF do it

[amber kraken]

I wish that it wasn't 12 hours of loading screen and 3 hours of play

[dense solstice]

weird I’ve barely had any?

Guess running around doing quests would cause that

[languid venture]

How bad is your system to have bad load times?

[dense solstice]

Worst I get on the series s is a freeze after like 7 hours of play but that’s also because it’s a used series s

[humble grail]

What

[humble grail]

I played ED, its not fun to spend 30 hours going one place to another

The flight controls are super sensitive, and the docking is so realistic, I could never dock

[humble grail]

Good is subjective

[languid venture]

Docking

[dense solstice]

dear god imagine realistic docking the pain >_>

[humble grail]

However, couldn't you just say that the current system of grav jumping is FTL anyways?

[amber kraken]

Theres as a rule stuff to do or your doing stuff for the reward of it. Interdictions wars exploration atmos

[dense solstice]

especially having to land up your docker

[amber kraken]

It's between system jumps

Intra system ftl like in nms

[languid venture]

System jumps sounds like fast travel

[humble grail]

The first mission I would have done in ED was: "Source 30 coffee beans and sell them"

[amber kraken]

Lift off with no loading screen
Fly to a station with o loading screen
Go somewhere else in system all at your whim

[humble grail]

Go somewhere else in system all at your whim

You can do this in starfield

[amber kraken]

S&R are biiig money if you run it right

[amber kraken]

Eyes the loading screens

[humble grail]

You're not beholden to the game's questlines

[dense solstice]

Sounds cool. How’s the rpg elements?

[amber kraken]

⛔

[amber kraken]

Nms about as good as expected.

[humble grail]

Are you trying to say the loadscreens make it impossible to travel to other star systems?

Cause that's not at all factual

[amber kraken]

I'm saying that I spend 3/4 of most quests in a loading screen

[dense solstice]

I’ve legit never experienced any real load screens on planets unless it’s like going into a large interior like the Well

[dense solstice]

Nv did it.

[languid venture]

Games usually have loading zones

[dense solstice]

Most RPGs do

[humble grail]

Also this weird distaste for loading screens is odd when every game in the last two generations have loadzones, loading corridors

[amber kraken]

You can walk from 1 wnd of the map to the other

[dense solstice]

Yes. Same here Lmao

[amber kraken]

How far can you take the main quest without a loading screen in SF

[humble grail]

Hell people were complaining when callisto protocol had the crevasse passing load screens

[languid venture]

How much do loading screen matter? The only answer is a little.

[amber kraken]

It's pronounced cause other games have done it better

[humble grail]

Not during the main quest

[dense solstice]

well the Callisto has a lot of those crevasse ones followed by QTE.

[humble grail]

They did it the same way bethesda does it

[amber kraken]

A lot when it takes a while to load

[dense solstice]

Same problem as God of War

[humble grail]

Upgrade your system then

[languid venture]

But it doesn't for most people

[amber kraken]

I play on cloud, running off of rather powerful systems. 30 seconds is average

[humble grail]

That's not a betheda issue, that's a "You're playing a next gen game on a older machine and expect devs to optimize for everything under the sun" issue

[humble grail]

I play on cloud

That's likely why your loadscreen time is longer

[amber kraken]

Ding dong ur wrong

[languid venture]

It's takes me at most 30 to load

[humble grail]

Its a next gen game

[amber kraken]

On my Computer it's about a minute off a SSD

[humble grail]

Its been optimized for PCs and Xbox

[amber kraken]

So it has to be worse?

[dense solstice]

game works great for me

[humble grail]

Its not worse, you chose a lesser experience playing on the cloud

[amber kraken]

It runs great in say Atlantis or Neon

[languid venture]

Running off an experimental loading program and you are EXPECTING smaller load times

I can't take that seriously

[humble grail]

Exactly

[amber kraken]

Greater auctualy compared to
Not playing it
Or
Playing it on a laptop

[amber kraken]

[humble grail]

Playing it on a laptop

Wrong. I play on a laptop.

30-60 FPS in starfield on high settings, with very short loadscreens

[amber kraken]

K
Give me yours then

Cause mine doesn't

[humble grail]

I can't do that, I only have a laptop

My old pc died from overheating

Its just a tower now collecting dust

[humble grail]

Also while yes in NV you can walk from one part of the map to another, that isn't true for the main quest.

The Main quest has you going through at least 100 different load-doors

[amber kraken]

Yes.

[dense solstice]

fuckin come fly with me with the 40 load screens just to complete

[humble grail]

The Strip itself is 3 load-doors (The strip main gate, and the gate that sections the strip in half, as well as the gate to freeside)

[dense solstice]

There’s good reasons for that

[amber kraken]

But NV Is hand made. Starfeild is ED done poorly with bad RPG Mechanics strapped on

Or an RPG done poorly with terrible space sections

[humble grail]

Come Fly With Me has the repconn door, the upstairs door, the repconn basement door, the ladder hatch, and then the door to the launch observation platform

[dense solstice]

no?

[languid venture]

Did it die the honorable death of trying to load two videos at once?

[humble grail]

WHAT

[dense solstice]

Ember don’t make stuff up

[amber kraken]

I'm not entirely sure which way

[humble grail]

NV is hand-made

Starfield is hand-made too

That's a stupid criticism

[amber kraken]

Proc gened

It's got a few really nice hand made things

[dense solstice]

Most of it is. Basically every single colonized or quest specific planet

[humble grail]

Nah, played 76 during august, never knew that water coolers need to be refilled

[amber kraken]

Back to work
Best of luck

[humble grail]

That's not how any of that works

[dense solstice]

~~then again I think expecting over one thousand planets of multiple types to be fully created is the biggest pipe dream

[humble grail]

You can't just turn on the procedural generation machine and it'll build a game like that

[dense solstice]

Creation and all iterations of it is really good for procedural design anyways

[humble grail]

The system can recognize planets, planet types, biomes, what resources a planet should have, what dungeons it should have, based on all the above variables

If you are going to criticize Bethesda for using proc-gen, you should criticize every game developer for it as well

[dense solstice]

Since if you don’t know the entire forests of Oblivion is all procedural

[humble grail]

There are many different ways to procedurally generate assets, and almost every way is used by many different games

[humble grail]

Yeah using SpeedTree

[dense solstice]

only issue I have is spacing. There’s a lot of smaller scale stuff but damn would kill for a movement boost pack.

Luckily Grav Dash

and Frostwolf

Become the speed

[humble grail]

Yeah everything is spaced out

I don't mind it too much, because I know A) mods will come out to add vehicles or something anyways B) player.setav speedmult exists

[dense solstice]

it’s spaced out like far harbor which is decent but man the distances can feel sluggish especially when it’s like on a moon

[humble grail]

Like there are geniune criticisms to have about the game, but loadscreens and space travel not being seamless is just "I wish this game copied other games"

[dense solstice]

Vehicles will be interesting since how the hell will mods be able to have it adapt to the different gravity of planets

[humble grail]

We'll find out whenever someone tries it

[dense solstice]

Xilandro had to basically rip the entire game apart just for it to work

And that was with consistent gravity

[languid venture]

Isn't NMS proc-gen?

[humble grail]

That was FNV, different engine entirely

[dense solstice]

Entirely yes

[humble grail]

NMS is more proc-gen then starfield XD

NMS procgens the planets, resources, the aliens, the landmarks, the world type, the system, the ships, the creatures, the enviroment

[dense solstice]

Sadly NMS has a major issue where it’s only like a single biome per planet

[humble grail]

Whereas starfield has many planets that are multi-biome planets

only a few are single biome planets like Earth which is all sandy desert

[dense solstice]

mostly moons, and places that make sense

[humble grail]

Yep

Earth makes sense since its state is because of main story details

[dense solstice]

since it adheres to real world logic where often times it’s gonna be a barren hellscape, sometimes it’s a Goldilocks planet

[humble grail]

It lost its magnetosphere and atmosphere, leading to enviromental collapse and its abandonment

[dense solstice]

like I found one forgot where but it was giant rain forests to put Minecraft to shame

really curious as to how many creatures there are total

[humble grail]

Its really hard to count becaue of proc-gen

[dense solstice]

The creatures aren’t procedural

[humble grail]

I thought they were

[dense solstice]

Nope every planet with life usually has the same alien creatures

Such as these

Phobos my modder friend believes the animation process to be somewhat procedural (thank Christ)

[humble grail]

Oh as in Phobos95

I like that guy, I used to follow him on twitter during his outrider era

[dense solstice]

Yes

[humble grail]

Sucks that he got suspended from twitter

I remember all the shit he got from just being associated with the frontier

Though I think once me and him fought and he blocked me on a old account I had on twitter

[dense solstice]

Harassment by others.

[humble grail]

Dang

[dense solstice]

Given his minuscule work on the frontier was harassed by others for involvement. Death threats, attempted doxxing etc

[humble grail]

Yeah its pretty lame that you get harassed for even mentioning it or having a small bit part

[atomic gull]

https://vxtwitter.com/StarfieldNewsJP/status/1714909329688768844?t=YPNHc50h4KgbDn-W_-dWkw&s=19

[dense solstice]

Really interesting to see what the dlc could be. So many options for it to go it’s difficult

[atomic gull]

Peak Starfield gameplay

[empty quail]

saw a youtube video and man coachman does not have a trigger

[tawny kernel]

numerous games before solved that issue pretty easily.

[tawny kernel]

I don't mind that as much, sad as it is, but I do feel that xenosociology is a waste without it allowing you to actually tame and have an animal companion

[dense solstice]

It does

It’s built into the grip

[languid venture]

The issues of people not wanting to fly for hours? Yeah, Starfield solved it by not having do that.

[tawny kernel]

By turning it into a loading simulator. Again, that's swing and a miss. Most people were asking in terms of flying for hours in the older games is due to the lack of anything interesting impacting them as such. The trick was to not only shorten the time traveling from point A to B, but to also implement interesting encounters, phenomenon, cosmic horror, alerts, etc.

[languid venture]

Miss? Do you think the majority of Bethesda's playerbase wants to fly across literally solar systems and land ships? The obvious and correct answer is absolutely not.

People don't play their games to become intergalactic tracker #853

[tawny kernel]

judging by the massive amount of disappointment? Yes, people were actually hoping to fly their customized ship and travel through the area, fighting pirates, horrors and so on

[languid venture]

By massive you mean very little?

Cuz if you don't, then don't even continue.

[tawny kernel]

No, not by a little. Every community I've went into so far has very popular threads of "This game has very disappointing space features"

[languid venture]

Right so we're lying now

[dense solstice]

I much enjoy being able to click on a planet from the scanner and travel to it

[tawny kernel]

literally take a look at the starfield reddit.

[dense solstice]

Plus the random encounter system

which simply put wouldn’t work without this system

rather take my space rpg instead of the space sandbox

[languid venture]

1. Why should I have to prove your point for you?
2. Is Reddit is totally known for its fair and community wide reporting?

I mean look at the NV sub if you want to act like that is a fair place to look for opinions

[tawny kernel]

Reddit, Youtube, discord communities, the list goes on? Critics, Critics with high reputation

[languid venture]

So prove it

[tawny kernel]

do you want me to post every single video from critics?

and flood the this thread?

[languid venture]

It would be a start to proving it

[tawny kernel]

no, it would be a start of being warned by a moderator

because it would be a total downer

[languid venture]

So just send not all of them?

[tawny kernel]

practically doomposting.

[languid venture]

Bro if you don't got any just say so

[tawny kernel]

I do, again, it's not hard to just type in Starfield Critique and you get it.

[languid venture]

I'm not gonna go prove the point you have to make

[tawny kernel]

no, I mean I do, but here, lemme first ask permission from the moderators

before I post a ton of videos

@gleaming apex Yo, is it okay if I post a ton of critique videos?

[languid venture]

https://youtu.be/bmWXNkX7Gew?si=iBN-SFf7zuH7hvHO

Here is a video

[dense solstice]

My one complaint is could use with a boost pack for vertical movement

[tawny kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1iOhX_tN4 I guess one will do for now @languid venture

[languid venture]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BAERjA7Ad54?si=9jMz08_zWwzl4ecD

[tawny kernel]

don't get me wrong I think some of the positives in Starfield are great. Solid.

but there's many things that are wrong with it. Such as the proceduraly generated locations kind of kills the mood on exploration.

[dense solstice]

already move fast with Frostwolf but could use something to close gaps fast

[tawny kernel]

ooo, I use Amp, but that slow time boost pack perk sounds like it could help

[dense solstice]

well the locations aren’t exactly procedural only placements. And they’re actually good layouts with rewards

[tawny kernel]

I don't find the placements all that enticing, Seen one abandoned mine, ya saw them all. I can imagine them being good in NG+ though, because the garaunteed legendaries and such

[dense solstice]

Magazines

they stack

[languid venture]

Dude, did you even watch this?

9/10 of each segment is overwhelmingly positive.

Then the other 1/10? Not only is it half jokes, the rest of it is just his opinion.

[dense solstice]

Plus this ain’t nv not every mine is the same reward wise

[languid venture]

His total conclusion is that it is great.

[tawny kernel]

I did, and he stated the criticism right there. You're not watching it. He explains that The story falls apart, the Exploration is really bad in the aspect of barren planets, The handcrafted areas are great, though, and I agree with him

and yeah, I think starfield is fun in it's way, like him. I just don't ignore the issues with it either.

[languid venture]

What are you talking about? It's like clockwork with how each segment switches from praise to joke then right around the end of the segment he says joke with some critiques.

His issue with exploration? Like his only issue? He encounters the same building 3 times over the course of hours of playing.

[tawny kernel]

he doesn't praise most of it, are you joking? His chapter 1 is literally shitting on the introduction because they hammed up the intro outside of the mineshaft, then takes 1.4 hours to finally be freed to do what you want to do if you chose to work with Constellation as a way to 'get started'

the entire procedure to finally being freed of the side companion (which he critiques as annoying, especially when the game decided he was best buddies with one, when he was clearly romantic with another) is ridiculously long.

[languid venture]

Bro turn off the internet

You aren't even watching the vid

[tawny kernel]

you clearly didn't watch it.

[languid venture]

I watched it

[dense solstice]

Yes the barren planets are barren >_>

[languid venture]

I'm subbed to the guy

[tawny kernel]

he even had criticism on the boss fight at the end about how the powers were pointless due to the bosses being immune to it.

[languid venture]

Have been since I originally watched the vid

[dense solstice]

Anyways I find the story incredible

Especially how much it can change with variation

[languid venture]

His review is a very positive one

[tawny kernel]

it sounded more like a lightly grey one. It wasn't very positive when very key aspects of the game he talked about are in a negative light. Handcrafted locations are a plus, and I agreed. They are. They're amazing.

the rest of the planets though are...not really great.

[languid venture]

Then you just didn't watch it at all

[tawny kernel]

no, I said this before, you just ignored it

or you didn't read that part of my thoughts on the game.

[languid venture]

I know you said that

You're just lying about jt

[dense solstice]

Wish I could speak more about the story and the themes behind it

[tawny kernel]

no, and his thoughts are the same as mine. I don't think it's fun to encounter the same procedurally generated locations on a planet that's not handcrafted.

[dense solstice]

When Emil said it was written while he was flipping between atheism and religion it definitely fits

[tawny kernel]

The ||Pilgrim ||part is great

[dense solstice]

A critique on both philosophies but never really admitting one is better. Asking questions that we can’t really answer.

It’s fuckin great

[tawny kernel]

Chaos and Order, with the third option being ||"I do my own way" ||

[dense solstice]

All topped off with the best reveal imo

Man it’s gonna be difficult for mods to make use of the systems in place

Especially starborn and how that works

Hardly order and hardly chaos

[tawny kernel]

the only thing that's a bummer is the NG+ functionality where you lose your stuff with it. Honestly, if it wasn't for my playstyle, I'd go with what someone said which is to play to NG+10 I think and then settle down with outpost building and ship crafting.

[dense solstice]

Since ||the Hunter is more an embodiment of humanity itself free willed and free flowing but he’s not chaotic per himself he will constantly be doing this forever, following the emplaced rules of the emissary. Hes not exactly chaotic unless you consider choice and freedom to be naturally chaotic in nature||

Reason why meeting him later he just gives you the stuff to cut the time sunk in

You even meet them earlier on and can just talk philosophical

Multiple times

Funnily enough all at bars

[empty quail]

I can't see the trigger

[tawny kernel]

yeah, there's none in third person. There's a lot of questionable quality control when it comes to the weapons, at least ballistic wise

such as the Lawgiver and the Beowulf.

[empty quail]

ah that's weird

[tawny kernel]

yeah, like the Lawgiver's reload animation in first person has the sights sliding back on the wood, which has nothing to to allow it as such, BUT in third person, it slides forward, where there's a groove and slide function right there for it. Or beowulf where it has a charging handle that isn't touch in first person, but it is in third person

it's really weird, like the animation groups are not communicating with each other.

[empty quail]

man weird

[dense solstice]

How it’s always been

[tawny kernel]

yeah, I remember the animation quirks in SKyrim and F4 where you can bypass attack thresholds by going back and forth in first person and third person

[dense solstice]

Basically every title has had different third and first person animations. As for why idk. Likely because third person animations are the most vital since most enemies need em

And have to be done in a lot more circumstances so have to be more varied and more general

[dense solstice]

Only title I think that’s managed to make third and first match up is cod tbh

[atomic gull]

Starfield is a game

[random valve]

Yes

[balmy crater]

you could opt for star citizen...that shits a mess lmao

[dense solstice]

Well that’s because of major bloat ideas that go/went nowhere, choice of an engine not for its technical reasons but because “it’s pretty” and many many other flaws

[atomic gull]

Cos Star Citizen is not a game

[balmy crater]

[atomic gull]

[west kernel]

[atomic gull]

[atomic gull]

[balmy crater]

smells like mistakes

[dense solstice]

Shame they had a med pack and not snake oil or junk flush

[balmy crater]

thats bethesda dev thinking

[atomic gull]

Wandering the Starfield makes me want to enter the unity

[granite galleon]

[atomic gull]

[dense solstice]

Space is dangerous

[atomic gull]

Patrolling the Starfield Almost Makes You Wish For a Unity Run

[tawny kernel]

@dense solstice unfortunately, the mags do not stack indefinitely, looks like you get 10 mags of each and that's it. Grabbing the same one doesn't do anything.

[dusty yarrow]

Rogue missile

It’s just trying to make the starfield logo

Nice, lol

[granite galleon]

Even sleeping in Starfield doesn't stop NPCs from being aggressive

[granite galleon]

But I did manage to fix main quest

I stayed hidden for a good five minutes and it fixed the NPCs

[dense solstice]

@feral wyvern

[tawny kernel]

doesn't make much sense to me. Your skills are at a fixed number of actions in order to rank it further, so...at max, it lowers the requirement by 10%

I guess that's good for some of the crazier ones, but I don't think it's that big of an influence.

[dusty yarrow]

Never been this close to a planet while in orbit lol

Sick

[dusty yarrow]

Can anyone tell me what is very wrong about this picture?

[gleaming apex]

you took a photo instead of posting a screenshot

[dusty yarrow]

Ouch

I did not feel like pasting a screenshot onto discord while in-game

[atomic gull]

But yeah chemistry lessons don't apply Starfield

[dusty yarrow]

Paradiso should be a massive crater according to the scanner

[balmy crater]

H20?

Idk didnt do well in chem

Didnt researchers find out that there is a new state of water found 400 miles into the earths center containing more water than surface bodies so yeah theres that lol

[dusty yarrow]

Cesium explodes when in contact with water

[balmy crater]

then it must be something other than

[dense solstice]

are sure it’s exactly water?

I’ve seen my legs melt off due to microbial influence

[granite galleon]

He looks so jealous

[balmy crater]

dafuck did I just step into

[granite galleon]

Idk

[languid venture]

Then plotting the to steal the declaration of space dependence

[cursive haven]

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Starfield is ruined for me now

[dense solstice]

well you’re in the spoilers channel for it

[cursive haven]

Can't believe someone would say something like that tho

Would have loved to find out myself that starfield was a game

[balmy crater]

Starfield is a what

[granite galleon]

I think its fun

I'm in New game plus rn

Here are some pictures from my travels

[dense solstice]

dangit. Street Sweeper doesn’t get updated with ng+1

[granite galleon]

Crimson fleet is kinda like the Pitt raiders

They mean well

In their own way

[atomic gull]

Found the holy grail

[dense solstice]

Yum

[west kernel]

thats a huge sandwich

[granite galleon]

Hungry?

[atomic gull]

[granite galleon]

Nom

[balmy crater]

now thats a sandwach

[granite galleon]

Happy Halloween y'all

[languid venture]

That's 3 sandwiches

[dusty yarrow]

Is it possible to encounter terrormorphs after ||Londinion||? I haven't seen a single once since then, and that was like 100 hours ago lol

I guess I could probably just go back to ||Londinion|| to see them

[atomic gull]

Yeah after completing questline can talk to mast guy for repeatables

[dense solstice]

Yes you will encounter them via random encounters and more

[atomic gull]

Starfield update on its way

[dense solstice]

Found an explosive Shotty during the First raid

Hits hard

~~also turns out I got seriously unlucky the first playthrough as only Paxton dropped his officer uniform

[granite galleon]

Will it fix companions not attacking enemies and them becoming aggressive if I hit them? 😾

[dense solstice]

Our Starfield Steam Beta is now live! Opt in to play the beta version of #1147568705178448017's next update, coming later this month. We'll see you out there! 🚀

Details: https://beth.games/3QNUFwu

From the discord

[cursive haven]

Damn, didnt know Scuzz works on Starfield

[dense solstice]

Servers I’m on have the newsfeed connected to it

[dusty yarrow]

Only took me 230 hours but I did it

||That end sequence was hella trippy||

[dense solstice]

Congrats you’ve gotten through just the first part 😉

[dusty yarrow]

I'm glad that there's an in-game lore reason to keep playing and all, but I'm gonna declare this playthrough ended right there and move onto cyberpunk

[dense solstice]

Missing out on a ton then ngl

[dusty yarrow]

I'll probably return to it one day, but that playthrough clocked at 233 hours and I'm tired of it for now

I really defeated ||The Hunter|| with words lol. It's like I crossed the space-time continuum, stared God in the face of death, and told him to go fuck himself

Added spoiler tags in case anyone's like me who got 120 hours deep into the game before even introducing the primary antagonists

[dusty yarrow]

When my friend said the ending reminded him of a certain other space game we enjoy, I thought he was talking about Mass effect. But he was definitely talking about ||Outer Wilds||

[dense solstice]

can’t exactly defeat him. You will meet him again

[dusty yarrow]

Defeated in that universe

[dense solstice]

still didn’t hehe

[feral wyvern]

Scuzz.

You do kill that version of the Hunter.

There's just so many fucking Hunters it just doesn't matter.

He probably competes with himself sometimes.

[dense solstice]

Yesnt

since you can meet him later in another run remembering if you killed him or not.

He killed the lodge and gives you the pieces for it telling you “he wants to see how this goes”

[random valve]

Considering you meet yourselves, I assume they're basically split into pieces

They don't drop corpses either

[dense solstice]

You don’t either. I think he talks about it you can’t exactly truly kill a starborn

[random valve]

Basically multiversal parasites at that rate

[dense solstice]

is it a parasite if intended however?

[random valve]

Probably

[balmy crater]

Cute

[languid venture]

Plotting.

[balmy crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Txry002aCE&t=299

[dusty yarrow]

Technically defeat doesn't necessarily always mean death

One could argue that since I convinced him not to fight me, he was defeated in the art of speechcraft

[west kernel]

https://t.co/0wDUMIfdYZ

[balmy crater]

finally!

14.6 gigs gtfo

[balmy crater]

thank you beth for giving me a brightness slider

slightly upset that this has changed to game to a point that it requires a new playthrough the response and quality are ridiculous

its so good im mad ok

this shit is so crisp im in love all over again

[balmy crater]

new atlantis looked like this the whole time

[atomic gull]

@balmy crater what dlss setting did you use

[atomic gull]

Tried auto and felt like a new game

[balmy crater]

yep auto felt like a new game entirely

for beth games i set nvidia control panel to let application decide

it just works

@atomic gull it feels like ive been duped into trying a Beta lmao

[atomic gull]

I got the reach level 100 achievement left so will finish that at some point lol

[balmy crater]

im just wandering around now so i can rediscover with 20/20

[atomic gull]

Now you can eat them chunks like 76

[balmy crater]

going to be checking sandwhich renders and posting them on here

[atomic gull]

[balmy crater]

contrast is defaulted to zero so im messing around with it now to see

[feral wyvern]

Found the stowaway.

[dusty yarrow]

I can't wait for Mitten Squad to release a video about Starfield lol

[random valve]

Completing starfield only using adoring fan

Or only using powers

[feral wyvern]

@dense solstice I boarded an Ecliptic ship that was on a planet and like...it took off with me inside.

I didn't even know that was possible.

[feral wyvern]

Lmao.

[dusty yarrow]

Or can you beat starfield without wearing a spacesuit

[cursive haven]

Can you beat starfield without loading screens (impossible)

[dense solstice]

Yup

[dense solstice]

Technically yes just very difficult

[dense solstice]

That’s basically impossible for any rpg?

[dense solstice]

Would be easier for ng+ because of personal atmosphere

[feral wyvern]

I did it.

[dense solstice]

Which gives you fresh oxygen

[cursive haven]

There's haters that's gonna be making that joke a lot once challenge runs go in full swing

[dense solstice]

Found the halo skull Easter egg?

[feral wyvern]

That's on Reach, right?

Or the planet that's its equivalent.

[dense solstice]

New Homestead actually

Also you did get the costume right

[feral wyvern]

No.

I just scanned the planet and left.

Sold two Ecliptic ships.

[dense solstice]

Become Tardigrade

[feral wyvern]

High gravity planets make me want to aliven't.

New character.

[dense solstice]

Broke your legs again?

[feral wyvern]

I like my jumping.

Thank you very much.

[dense solstice]

Think of it this way, more gravity = less airtime = more jumping

[feral wyvern]

But I like jumping far.

[feral wyvern]

Oh nice, my first terrormorph was found while surveying Jemison.

I just see an Ecliptic running away from one.

[dense solstice]

Yee ton of encounters with them

[dense solstice]

Like when you finish vangurd you have the “Aceles drop” event that can pop up where you activate some defenses then defend/help the Aceles against a terromorph. Really you don’t need to do anything against the morph. With a friendly vanguard member

[feral wyvern]

So.

NPCs can follow you onto your ship, huh?

[dense solstice]

Yup

Certain ones

[atomic gull]

#76_general

[feral wyvern]

There's no such thing as a Geneva Convention in Starfield because Geneva is now a pile of sand.

[languid venture]

Truly now a Geneva Suggestion.

[feral wyvern]

Legendary items in Starfield spawn upon the death of the enemy.

[feral wyvern]

@dense solstice I want a M-Class Starship so fucking bad.

Imagine being able to launch your A/B/C-Class ships from them to land on planets.

Maybe dock your starship on the side and have automated turrets that can fire at enemies while you fly you smaller starship.

...wait why are the UC fascists now?

Never change RPG fans.

[dense solstice]

I’d wager that would be a dlc addition since it’s technically all in the game

[feral wyvern]

Yes.

But yeah, apparently some people think that the UC is fascist now.

[dense solstice]

Folks say that about literally any faction at this point

[dense solstice]

Tldr there’s data and files talking about capital class ship creation and space station creation

[feral wyvern]

Well.

I say that the Freestar Collective is fascist!

[dense solstice]

And there’s even “legendary ships” which are capital class juggernauts that require a full scale assault to defeat

[feral wyvern]

Yeah.

There's also the UC Armored Transport.

[dense solstice]

Ancap fascist

[feral wyvern]

Bungie is fascist.

[dense solstice]

There’s definitely gonna be something with the UC starliners

Im calling it

@feral wyvern so idea, a murder mystery on a luxury star liner cruise but every loop the murderer changes

[feral wyvern]

Razorleaf on a new playthrough.

[dense solstice]

Or maybe New evidence is found something slightly changed

[feral wyvern]

Ngl why would you use any other ship.

The Razorleaf is the only one that has unique dialogue and interactions.

[dense solstice]

The starborn ships have some decent interactions and that special cloak is damn good.

Do hope they add jn more special ships

[feral wyvern]

But they kind of suck in combat.

[dense solstice]

Yeah

Oh also the kepler ships I’ve found them around the place being used

[feral wyvern]

Kepler?

[dense solstice]

Yes

When you help stroud during the main quest he asks of you to go and get his team to design some new ships

[feral wyvern]

Huh.

I must've missed you.

[feral wyvern]

Wait after you finish the quest you find them spawning?

I'm currently trying to farm for decent pieces of Bounty Hunter Armour.

[dense solstice]

Yes

I went with the sleek specialized s and had folks stating it was perfect

[feral wyvern]

...

So you get go design a ship.

And it'll spawn in the map.

So, I got the encounter where a group of spacers try to ambush you only to find out you're flying the Razorleaf.

Apparently if you like instantly annihilate one of them their AI breaks.

[feral wyvern]

Hm...

Fuck it, I'll keep it.

[dense solstice]

Tesla is a good effect

[feral wyvern]

I'd rather have something other than Bashing.

But I'll take this for now.

[dense solstice]

Ngl bashing is legit good

Does high damage and good for backing away enemies while reloading

[feral wyvern]

Decided to restart.

It's nice that Sarah doesn't care if you steal.

[granite galleon]

Why?

[feral wyvern]

Because stealing is fun.

I'll steal from anyone.

Even homeless people.

[dense solstice]

It’s also very lucrative

[granite galleon]

I guess

[granite galleon]

Look who I found

[granite galleon]

@green laurel hate to ping you here but I just have to get this off my chest

Freestar collective Is just trying it's hardest to be a wannabe NCR

[green laurel]

Pretty much yeah, NCR from Wish. com basically

Shady Sands>Akila

[granite galleon]

And what's funny is the Freestar ambiance music tries to sound as Mojave as possible

It's like they treat Freestar systems as backwater wild wests

And everyone talks and looks like a cowboy

[green laurel]

Haha, exactly NCR has much better armour tho

[granite galleon]

I do dislike Freestar tho

They used civilians as meat shields during the colony war

The NCR would never do that

If anything the Freestar collective won by cheating

Very inhumane cheating

[dense solstice]

The United colonies are way more like the ncr?

[granite galleon]

Nah not really.

If anything the UC are a bunch of pushovers that lose almost all the time.

[feral wyvern]

Obviously the Beowulf is the best weapon.

[random valve]

1.6 million are star born out of 13 million?

[feral wyvern]

Surprising no one.

[random valve]

That's really low

[minor fog]

Fully modded big bang it's my fav

https://bethesda.net/en/article/37j5d4CbPfYlZqJKcVtGcY/starfield-end-of-the-year-update-2023

TL;DR Updates every 6 weeks starting in february. QoL features, more ship customization, new ways to travel, maps, survival mode and mod support.

[dense solstice]

Not many know how ng+ works and would think it’s just the end

[zenith hound]

Sounds pretty good to me

[granite galleon]

Mhm

It's cool