The Rings of Power (LOTR)

[hearty onyx]

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[hearty onyx]

@unique saddle @strange timber i can't use the bot to transfer your messages, but here you go kekw

[strange timber]

Wha what happened

[hearty onyx]

https://youtu.be/BVYKwFdMwnQ

this was the song

[hearty onyx]

#announcements!

[unique saddle]

Shenanigans

but yeah music is pretty good

[hearty onyx]

i wanna watch the series when it's all out

[unique saddle]

BUT

[hearty onyx]

only series i break this rule for is asoiaf

i just can't wait

[unique saddle]

Nobody beats my boi Chance Thomas when it comes to LotR-esque music (other than ofc Howard Shore)

Chance Thomas does most of the stuff for LotRO and some older games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gezb98mA6FM&t=341s&ab_channel=BimberMistrz

And the only reason I'm watching it bit by bit is because my dad is

[hearty onyx]

i prefer more melodic, so numenor rings better for me haha

funny how high fantasy this feels

compared to asoiaf's music

which, i love btw

[unique saddle]

I like how multicultural Numenor's feels

Which makes sense since they are like the precursor men

[hollow jungle]

is this show good?

or is it like harry potter where it's an awful prequel show?

[unique saddle]

It's fine

Probably a 6/10

[hollow jungle]

ah ok considering the questionable things i've seen in the lotr show

well images and clips

[unique saddle]

I mean its not necessarily "good" but its not bad

[hollow jungle]

Looks cool atleast

[unique saddle]

I've not watched it so far thinking "I wasted this time"

[hollow jungle]

I do like the concept of an early age lotr show

it would be nice if they turn that into a video game though

[unique saddle]

They were supposed to be making an MMO

But they cancelled it

likely because every game Amazon has made so far has been awful

[round river]

It’s ok
But it’s too slow
Literally lmao

[unique saddle]

Yeah it's very slow

Or at least the filler is not interesting

[strange timber]

Yep

I wouldnt mind if they cut out the harfoot stuff

Least interesting part of the series for me

[unique saddle]

Yeah as intrigued as I am about the Stranger I think that entire thing could just not be there

[strange timber]

I just want more orcs

[hollow jungle]

that would be weird

considering LOTR MMO is already a thing

[unique saddle]

Yeah and ironically now that it got cancelled LotRO has gotten a ton of renewed interest so they revamped their subscription model to be even better and are even getting a graphics rework

(I highly recommend LotRO btw)

[hollow jungle]

Ohh I'll keep that in minmd

[strange timber]

Next time I see someone say Galadriel wasnt depicted as a warrior in the books I'm gonna insane

[unique saddle]

she def was

[strange timber]

Yeah

[unique saddle]

although the level of resting bitch face and angst is debatable

[strange timber]

I argued with some a while back that was taking some rando's word that she wasnt a warrior

Never even read the books

You dont get the title orc slayer for nothing

[dark basin]

I don’t know if this is some super obvious thing or not, but I feel like the harfoots are like ancient hobbits, before they settled down in the shire, and the stranger is Gandalf coming to fight Sauron, it’d explain why he likes the hobbits so much since he’d owe a debt to them, and would help them find their home in the shire. Also show is pretty good, it’s nice to have something fresh for lotr

[unique saddle]

Correct

They're based off a real thing from the lore

In the real lore the OG hobbits lived up in that area then migrated down the anduin river eventually getting to the shire

[tranquil dew]

Yes, this is why they are extinct in the LOTR movies, except for Gollum

[ornate sierra]

Oh dang we probably gonna see pre ring smeagol in one of these seasons eventually

[strange timber]

This episode was fun

I liked the Adar reveal

No longer friends with Halbrand being sauron supporter

Now a new friendship with Halbrand being the oathbreaker king or a tragic Nazgul

[ornate sierra]

Maybe witch king

[ornate sierra]

The dwarves and orcs are the best actors in this show imo

Especially Adar

[fluid apex]

Okay well that was cool, we just witnessed the birth of Mordor

[ornate sierra]

Yea wasn't expecting it so early

[fluid apex]

Same honestly

It happened quite fast

[ornate sierra]

And the show supposed to have 5 seasons

[fluid apex]

The CGI in that scene looked a bit out of place. I mean it looked cool, but kinda weird in the lighting

[tranquil dew]

Wasn’t expecting that

I like it

No happiness

[strange timber]

BTO

BRO*

This episode is 100% the best one

Yet

[strange timber]

I wonder if there'll be timeskips

Since the Balrog only pops up after the war Iirc

[ornate sierra]

Yea that kinda confused me too

How tf are the dwarves gonna mine that mithril if the balrog is already awake down there

I bet we'll see the creation of the mithril chainmail that Bilbo wears eventually

[round river]

Harfoots are useless (and hobbit-knockoffs)
Galadriel’s character is terrible
Please fix this show amazon

[ornate sierra]

I have the same complaints but I still love the show

[round river]

says she’s the protagonist
wants us to like her
“I’m gonna commit genocide” - Galadriel

[ornate sierra]

It was funny when their wagons got lit on fire

[round river]

Bruh that episode was basically: villager op plz nerf

[ornate sierra]

The only good thing that came out of the harfoots was when Nori's dad said he was gonna brain those women in white

[strange timber]

Tbf that is Galadriel

The elves commited genocide against Orcs with her as a leader

[strange timber]

I really think those women are balrogs

[ornate sierra]

Why? Is that possible, idk much lore

[strange timber]

They show some affinity with fire and have a strange attraction with the stranger

It could be some other species of Maiar that arent the fire spirits

Stranger is most likely a maiar of some sort

If he's Gandalf, Sauron or someone else

[fluid apex]

I'm really really trying to like the show. I want to like it, but it's definitely lacking in several aspects

Harfoots are hobbit's ancestors

The word probably evolved into hobbit over time

The actual dialogue itself is pretty well written and deep but the story and characters just aren't that great imo

Well, I like Elrond, Nori, and the mystery man from outer space but it's hard to like a lot of the other characters

And the elf guy that's in love with Bronwyn is pretty cool too

[round river]

Only a few people have good dialogue, the vast majority just suck

[ornate sierra]

I seen a theory that it's the maiar that would eventually become Gandalf, he was sent by the valar to check up on saurons progress and at the end of the series he'll go back to the valar

So that they don't break the lore too hard by saying he's been there since the second age when Gandalf was only around since the third age

[tranquil dew]

They aren’t really knock offs, hobbits are evolved harfoots in a way. Gollum is a harfoot

Just saw the explanation above me as well

I keep reading top to bottom

[ornate sierra]

That Sauron reveal

Was not expecting it to be that character

[strange timber]

This new ep was uhh

Certainly an episode

Pretty disappointing for me

It would have been nice to atleast see the elven version of Sauron

Have him transform in Mordor into his full armour or something

Also the Palantir caused the Black Numenoreans to be created?

Its so weird

[ornate sierra]

What

Black numenoreans?

[safe shadow]

I think this movie ruins the whole trilogy and distorts the plot. John Ronald Reuel Tolkien is rolling over in his grave.

[tranquil dew]

Tons of foreshadowing throughout the season

[ornate sierra]

That isn't about halbrand so no it wasnt

[ornate sierra]

That message was about the stranger when the show tried to pretend he was sauron

[tranquil dew]

Ah okay

Still weird that the direction they took with him

There was only 1 istar in the 2nd age though and he disappeared after there being nothing written besides a little bit

One of the blue wizards

[ornate sierra]

I think it could still be a blue wizard and this one is gonna be the one that Gandalf gets all his sayings from or some shit

[tranquil dew]

Just saw this but yeah, probably. One of the 2 blue wizards arrived in the 2nd age before the other wizards but there’s like nothing written about them

[hearty onyx]

it's not bad, tbh

i've been watching the first few episodes and i'm now on the fourth

definitely feels different to say, classic lotr

[ornate sierra]

Mainly cuz of the dialogue

They don't have Tolkien writing their lines for em

[hearty onyx]

I mean, that makes sense

He's been dead for a while now

I've been rather enjoying the series, on the last episode now and the revelation was pretty neat tbh

[ornate sierra]

I really liked the show

It was funny watching people complain about things missing from the show like females dwarves with beards or ||galadriels husband|| but then they get mentioned in episodes later on

[ornate sierra]

Also yea loved the Mordor reveal, that was honestly a top 3 moment in LOTR cinematography imo

Adar is also just one of the best villains ever in a LOTR media

Dude hates elves and Sauron? Now this gonna be interesting seeing Sauron reclaim his army from him in probably a big orc vs orc battle for dominance

Wonder if they'll have Sauron like controlling orcs the way we do in the shadow of Mordor games

Marking them

[hearty onyx]

I also wonder if the next seasons will focus on the other rings being made, the dwarven and the ones for men

And I assume the last one will be the One Ring

The Halbrand reveal was really neat, as was the Istar

I think that was one of the top moments of the entire season when he banished those wraiths

[ornate sierra]

Yea I also think he's not Gandalf and one of the blue wizards

[tranquil dew]

What bothered me the most was that Galadriel and Elrond are best friends, elf culture is different from ours though

[ornate sierra]

Wdym

[tranquil dew]

well in the movies and books, ||Elrond hooks up with either her daughter or granddaughter (i forget which one) and that's how his daughter is born to later get with Aragorn||

thats why I think it's weird

it's like knowing a dude for 20 years and being best friends just for him to try and hook up with your child

but like i said, elven culture is different from ours

[ornate sierra]

He's basically her brother

She finds him at a young age as an orphan and helps him out

But considering that 20 years goes by in what seems like an instant to the elves they probably don't think about marriage the same way

[tranquil dew]

that makes it worse tbh

[tranquil dew]

yeah thats what i mean, it's different for them, it's still weird though

[ornate sierra]

Yup, what's weirder is that her daughter probably isn't even alive yet in the rings of power series, she still has to find her long lost husband she assumed is dead lol

[tranquil dew]

||technically Aragorn is also related to Arwen (at least in the books, for him it's distant but for her it's just a few generations from the connection)||

altogether, Elves are just weirder due to the age difference

[ornate sierra]

Kinda makes some of them seem like mega groomers lol

[tranquil dew]

yeah lol

[ornate sierra]

Watching this elf grow up from a baby to marry them later on

[tranquil dew]

but anyways, yeah that was my main issue

besides the ||whole Mordor part||

idk why im still covering stuff like this if its not book related

but yeah

overall, I enjoyed it

[raw inlet]

I did not like this show

It’s a shame that we will never see the Silmarillion

Accurately

[ornate sierra]

I liked the show

But uh

God was there some cringe

The scene when they showed Mordor forming was also really cool

[raw inlet]

I was not a fan of it

Especially since it’s super inaccurate to what actually happened

[ornate sierra]

Yea I just treat it as fanfic

I read some of the silmirillion texts and watched a lot of videos

[raw inlet]

Yeah we should have seen morgoth

[ornate sierra]

Also the balrog being shown is so dumb

[raw inlet]

Galadriel wouldn’t be fighting with a sword either but with song

[ornate sierra]

Hopefully tho that scene with the balrog wasn't like something actually happening but more so them reminding us what's down there

I hope they take the audience feedback for season 2 and not focus so much on the harfoots

[raw inlet]

Balrog doesn’t come into play until much later

[raw inlet]

Considering how ignorant the creators are that’s probably not gonna happen

[meager folio]

New season is pretty interesting tbh

[raw inlet]

It changed a pretty crucial detail in the books

[meager folio]

Ok

[meager folio]

It changed a lot compared to the books but I don't consider the show canon so it doesn't matter to me