Osamodas

[random comet]

Welcome to the section dedicated to the Osamodas class! This is where you can discuss the mechanics of this class, share tips and ask for advice!

[wild pivot]

Can someone tell which stats do affect the summons?

[empty jay]

Bro who knows. Its been changed and anounced in 2019. But i feel like it changed again. And i cant find the right info

[maiden rivet]

Every summon does inherit Vitality from equipment to an extent, Koalak and Wyrmling inherit Intelligence and Fire Damage, Gobball and Crackler inherit Chance and Water Damage, and Tofu and Boar inherit Agility and Air Damage. Koalak also inherits some of the Heal stat and Boar also inherits some of the Pushback Damage.

At one point Gobball inherited Lock but that was removed

Unfortunately Power and the general + Damage do not benefit summons

[shadow frigate]

Any recommendation about sets equips till 200?

[empty jay]

https://www.gamosaurus.com/jeux/dofus-touch/dofus-touch-guide-et-stuff-de-l-osamodas-eau-items-panoplies-dofusbook-equipements

The higher end gear can be costly.

But early game the celestial sets are oke too.
Celestial sets attained from 'lairs'

[shadow frigate]

thanks I will save the link for later ❤️ 🙏

[stable pelican]

Does %crit and crit damage affect the summons %crit and crit dmg?

[maiden rivet]

I wish it did, but it does not

[empty jay]

People keep saying Osa is broken in PvP.
Maybe add a special spell cooldown, the turn Osas summons are invoked?

[maiden rivet]

They said in the live stream they're going to do something, but no details on what that something is

[crisp gazelle]

what ossa was better for PvE? int,agi,cha? have u any build for specyfic charakteristic?

[maiden rivet]

All are great for PvE.
Int is the popular build and you'll likely find decent success filling the Healer role with it as long as you find others who can see past using the Eni-heal-bot. It also has the benefit of Unbewitchment and Unhealable in the Wyrmling which can strongly disrupt some bosses.
Chance is the best damage of the 3 with summons that charge in and can cause an Explosion when affected by Martyr, also Determination has amazing range.
Agi is best known for playing safe by keeping enemies away with Crow, Gust, and Boar. It can also use Gravity to stop enemies that jump around and with some careful thinking it can sometimes fill the Positioner role, though not as well as a Panda or Sacrier.

Think about what you want to be able to do best and choose based on that.

[earnest pike]

Just fought n osa and his summons did double the dmg of what mines did, why?

[maiden rivet]

Spell Level and Stat inheritance

Also perhaps Favoritism

[earnest pike]

Wym stat inheritance? And spell lvl really affects dmg?

[maiden rivet]

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And yes the higher level the summon the more damage they will do

[earnest pike]

So to lvl up the summon I j lvl up the skill

[maiden rivet]

Yes just as you would any other spell

[empty jay]

INVOCATION STATS

the characteristics of the summons are half of the total of yours, but not of all the stats...

the stats you give to your summons are:

• your maximum vitality (being eroded has no influence on summons)
• your strength/intelligence/luck/agility
• your elemental damage
• your damage pushed (for the wild boar)
• your healing stats (for the koalak)

summons have their own critical strike chance and power does not increase their damage

ATTENTION :
summons only take the stats of your stuff, your base characteristic points do not increase their damage

[shadow frigate]

good to know

[maiden rivet]

Hmm the accounting only for Equipment stats is new to me I wonder when they changed it. I just checked and you're right.

2 other things to keep in mind is summons also have their own base stats, which is raised by leveling up the spell and you can check your summons' stats in battle by opening up the characteristics tab while you have control of that summon.

You'll see some crazy things with the stats they don't use though, Tofu for example has 1000 Str, Int, and Cha (which we used to our benefit back when Martyr was based on summon Cha)

Also to note, my note about Vitality from equipment wasn't correct, I phrased it wrong. Summons inherit Vitality from the Osa, both from characteristic point and equipment, but the basic HP gained through leveling your character does not come into play (1050 at level 200).

Also the amount of Vitality is different for each summon.

Tofu inherits ~ 5%
Boar inherits ~ 10%
Koalak inherits ~18.6%
Wyrmling and Crackler inherit ~ 20%
Gobball inherits ~ 25%

[coarse tundra]

What is a nice Osa 100 pvp set to try out pvp a bit?

[empty jay]

Bruh i dont know. Only thing i know is. French community has best info

[tough gate]

It depends on your build. For example, I’m full vitality and equipment is boosting chance for spell hits if I have the chance.
I tried first koli 1v1, at level 100 and won other osas, iops, sadidas. 10AP, 4summons, 5 MP. My set is mixture of everything - gelano, hat and amy gives +AP; boots and mount gives +MP; the rest gives chance, vit and wisdom. You just have to decide what element are you concentrating on. Now, after class update we have a nice advancement of controlling every summon step, so it is wise to play with them.

[coarse tundra]

Aii ty. Ive been messing around for an int build. If you wanna see which ,pm me so we can discuss

[unkempt granite]

With the new changes what advantages do you see on ethereal summons? I only use it for kamikaze tofus, reduce summon cool down to get a heal. But I think now it lost a lot of value

[maiden rivet]

Right I agree the Animal Spirit spell just doesn't do enough. Generally Osa damage spells deal more immediate damage than summons, so the only thing I find it useful for was the utility spells. Maybe if they lived for 1 more turn it could be worth it damage wise and for things like blocking LoS, but the penalty now is too large for the cost.

[unkempt granite]

Yeah summons should die at the beginning of your next turn to work as you say. That could really add value to it. I also used it for utility spells but right now seems like a waste

Also without utilities the summon penalty for dragon and crackeler seems too hefty.
A good balance I think would be remove animal spirit, bring back symbiosa but now for 1 turn you can control all summons on field.

[maiden rivet]

Eh no, I don't want to use a spell to control summons again that's a step backwards.

[unkempt granite]

Well I meant just to activate utilities not for actual control haha I agree controlling them is going backwards. Lost some fight because dragon didn’t hit for some reason or koala didn’t go for the kill just to heal more .

I think using favoritism to activate utilities is not adding more. Tofu/Gobbal are not like the best utilities imo.
The pull is too short, compared to what pandas can do for example with much less ap

[maiden rivet]

Yeah getting all utilities I could see. Favoritism locking utilities just means you only see Persistent Flame, Crackler's AP Red attack, and Boar's gravity depending on the element of the Osa really. Otherwise the Osa is sacrificing some important damage for utility which sucks. Imagine telling Iop they can't Wrath if they want to Jump

Of course when we get into the utilities others get cranky, but surely limiting it behind a 2 or 3 AP cost as well as 1 turn wouldn't be crazy. Additional to the Favoritism allowing that 1 summon to have it constantly of course

[static saffron]

Now they can eliminate the favoritismo restrict to summons in that state and that IS Fair,

[maiden rivet]

No I'm saying both. Let the Favo summon use its special spell, then also adjust Animal Spirit so that on top of what it already does (which also kills new summons for 2 turns mind you) all Osa summons get to use their special spell during the state for either 1 or 2 turns. This allows for a burst utility effect, although it would require that ethereal summons at least live until the start of the Osa's next turn. There is no point in casting Persistent Flame for unhealable if that Wyrmling just dies and the state is removed after all.

If we want to set it up so that Favoritism doesn't grant the special spell and instead animal spirit does, we need to remove the Ethereal Summoner state, otherwise it's even worse than what Osa does now (and if you want nerfs now I can't take your seriously lol). What this does is allow Osa to set up a team of summons, then get their utility for 2 turns at a cost of 3AP. Personally I don't think this version works, because the big issue other players have is all the various immediate utility, and if they don't just die then that is an issue.

[static saffron]

Im wanting saying the same as you, but im not native speaker

Ethereal state ==equal favoritism withaut damage and pa

[maiden rivet]

Ok I understand, language barriers make things tough sometimes but I'm glad we can speak through them.

[idle elk]

Hi! Newbie here. I'm currently lv 65 and my hp is only 700+. I pvp someone lv63 and he had 2k+ HP. How can I increase HP that much? Do you have some pvp build guides (updated)

[outer bane]

https://touch.dofusbook.net/en/ try and mess around with this site and build some sets

[static saffron]

The forgemage can increase the life provided by sets, ¿the Smerald Dofus can be equiped?

And a pet can give 550 hp

[idle elk]

thanks for the reply. what's the ideal AP and MP for Osa? I only have 8 AP and 3 MP. I'm full INT since I use ghostly claw and crackler punch but I have lvl 5 koalak, lv 4 boar, and lvl 4 favourtism. I see some issue in my Osa in terms of MP where It's hard for me to reach far enemies (pvp) and limited AP to maximize my skill cast output. I was wondering what can I do to improve this

[static saffron]

A turkey for pm and extra invo. I dont remember the name.

[maiden rivet]

At your level 8 AP is pretty normal. With an Emerald Dragoturkey you can get to 4 MP, consider Almond/Emerald, Plum/Emerald, or Ginger/Emerald depending on what you need. Also keep an eye out for a Shield that gives summons but I think the earliest is lvl 80

[idle elk]

(Almond/Emerald, Plum/Emerald, or Ginger/Emerald) Are these equips? I'm trying to farm God rod. I read somewhere that I can try and use it for AP

though is - AGI

[maiden rivet]

These are Dragoturkey mounts, buy a lvl 1 certificate from the market then go to a public paddock in Bonta or Brakmar near the Pet market. Click on the fence and move the certificate to your Mount slot and you can equip them. You will need to give them xp to raise them, but at lvl 100 the Almond/Emerald gives a Summon and MP, Plum/Emerald gives Range and MP, and Ginger/Emerald gives a bunch of Vit and MP. All give Vit just Ginger gives more.

[maiden rivet]

God Rod is ok, at your level you want Weapon slot for the stat bonuses it gives and AP is great. Keep an eye out for Limbo Wand at 105, and if you really want to PvP at your level (I don't recommend this for new players, it is filled with Smurf Accounts with Maging and items unaccessible to new players) make sure you have every equipment slot in use somehow including shield and trophies/dofus.

[idle elk]

yeah I get my butt kicked by a lvl 63 with over 2k hp. I'm sure he's one of that guy you mentioned

same guy for a lot of rounds in PVP. I always end up with him

[little bramble]

Is fire osamodas better in new server? so far 100% of osas I see use fire build...but I thought chance was good?

[maiden rivet]

All are good, it's just Int has always been the most popular. On Grandapan I played Agi Osa for years and beat Int Osas, and Agi is the least popular. They just have different things they focus on, pick your niche and play to its strengths.

[little bramble]

What about for pve, is int or cha better? I always thought cha was better, when I first played this last year i was told to do cha

[little bramble]

I watched the dofus touch tierlist and even they recommended fire int, for the dragon and boar damage, was osamodas updated recently that fire is a lot better? Should I change to fire, I'm still under 40 on my osa, using CHA right now... I'm asking for PVE only, I don't do pvp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHz_rtTTKpY&t=1957s

[maiden rivet]

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My largest advice to you, especially since you're asking for PvE where things are easier, is to pick for yourself. You will not go wrong here.

Then, if for some reason you aren't happy with your results, you can always change builds down the line.

[little bramble]

Do you agree with their tierlist of osa being average because its damage isn't that high in later levels and it's more a support class?

[buoyant breach]

Is this a good class for beginners?

[maiden rivet]

I generally agree that it's less than those in the tiers above it in burst damage, but it's important to recognize each of those 6 classes in the top have burst mechanics except for Panda that just has good consistent damage with strong self buffs it uses naturally in its combos and Vulnerability which increases the damage a target takes as a whole.

Osa plays differently in this aspect in that your main gameplay is to spam the summons of your element to apply pressure and keep enemies distracted from yourself. Your damage will not burst, but it will be consistent and demand an answer or else you snowball and control an army, and whether that's PvP or PvM that's a force to be reckoned with. Innately this allows you to play around monster AI better than most and comes with inherent damage mitigation as the summons (especially in the Cha route) act as body shields that soak damage away from you.

The difficulty you face at endgame is it can be a struggle to get a summon to live more than 2 turns and so at some point there's an adaptation from building an army to sending in threatening pawns. Cha is better than Int in this regard as Gobball has a better cooldown than Koalak so it's not as punishing to lose, and you can also apply the Martyr spell to a summon when you expect them to die for a cheap and effective explosion.

I'm beginning to ramble but the point is Osa damage wise requires patience where as those above it on the list are either patiently setting up huge burst damage or large amounts of direct damage.

[maiden rivet]

Imo it's middle ground for this. It can take some extra learning to really control the summons, but they handle enemy AI like no other class does so monster fights can be easier as an Osa.

[static saffron]

The tier IS for damage , that IS not all Game.

[static saffron]

I'm chance anutrof, i usually surrender against osa, is my worse match.

[buoyant breach]

Okay I’m in between this class and eni

[buoyant breach]

Best build?

[static saffron]

Int for osa. I prefer agi.

I like tofus over the other invos

[maiden rivet]

Agi gang Agi gang

[little bramble]

which build is best for the lairs under 5 turn challenges? cha or int?

[empty jay]

Air. Pushback damage is crazy powerfull. Its like the boar hits 2 times per attack. So 4 times per 2 attacks if you can space the enemy properly

[empty jay]

Int is best overall. Has healing. Self heals. Easy AoE.

Chance used to be good for drops and tanky summons.

Air is good for pushback and also movement

[little bramble]

I'm not understanding the damage of ghostly claw and crackler punch can someone help: my claw is 9-11 fire dmg,6-7 fire steal, crackler punch is 31-35 fire dmg, but why in battle when I hit monster with claw it does 80 damage, with crackler punch hits 102 damage? both hits were non crit and targeted on the monster, I don't understand why ghostly claw hits so much, according to the skill description numbers, shouldn't it be half of crackler punch damage?

[static saffron]

Each instante of damage add damage , Fire damage and critical damage

[static saffron]

See your stats damage and Fire damage. Ghostly have 2 instances and cracler 1

[grizzled canyon]

I feel sux with me osa. at lvl 75, any suggestion how i can inprove my damage, hp and summons? what element and spell is best to focus for pvm? thanks

[little bramble]

What do you mean 2 instances? It's one fire dmg attack and one fire steal, 9-11 dmg and 6-7 steal, why is that dmg so close to the crackler punch 31-35 dmg?

[static saffron]

Fire steal IS a separate damage instante

[little bramble]

But can you explain why claw 9-11,6-7 is 80 dmg and crackler punch 31-35 is 100 dmg? It's really close but the claw supposed to be lower base dmg?

[flint girder]

Do you have a lot of +fire damage rather than int?

[little bramble]

I only have one ring +3 fire dmg but that doesn't make sense, crackler punch is also fire dmg

[flint girder]

But it's not 2 instance's of fire damage

Crackler punch is a big hit whereas claw is 2 smaller individual hits so takes +damage more into account

So crackler punch is +3 where as claws modifier becomes +6

[little bramble]

That extra +3 dmg is enough to jump from expected 50 damage hit to 80?

[flint girder]

Check other damage modifiers

[little bramble]

Thanks, I still don't really understand but I'll take the higher claw damage

[static saffron]

Damage IS other

[maiden rivet]

To really get into this we need to know your stats, what's your Int, Power, +Damage, and +Fire Damage?

[little bramble]

Int is 167, Power 65, Damage+18, Fire Damage +3

https://imgur.com/a/9a5o4M5
https://imgur.com/JKoimPC

You can see the damage of ghostly claw is really close to crackler punch even though the damage on the right side description looks like should be half of crackler punch, I don't understand it

[maiden rivet]

It's the Damage + 18 and the Fire Damage +3, looking for the average damage, the formula is:
Ghostly Claw: ((9 + 11)/2 * (1 + (167 + 65)/100)) + ((6 + 7)/2 * (1 + (167 + 65)/100)) +(18+3) * 2
Crackler Punch ((31 + 35)/2 * (1 + (167 + 65)/100)) + (18+3)
Because Ghostly Claw has 2 lines of damage, the + Damage and + Fire Damage modifiers affect the damage twice.

[kindred warren]

do OSA summons ever get another passive AP to be able to attack twice the dopple OSA's dragon has 6 ap with no buffs if i get 10 AP at level 100 will my pets ever get more passive ap? or what stats effect our summons

[outer bane]

Nope they only get extra ap under favoritism.

[hollow rose]

Hey I'm new to this game and I'm lvl 25 how do I get more than one summon fighting at a time?

[outer bane]

Different sets or pieces of gear will have summons on them allowing you to summon more.

[wraith wadi]

Anyone doing chance osa? How was it?

[quaint wraith]

Helo, im a 103 osa fore/ air 10ap 3 summons 3mp i reset element to full fire? Or more multi element water/fire , i have the starter set 7€ fire

[static saffron]

You can change element free One time for doplons with the dopeuls guy

[empty jay]

In the beginning its better to be mono. Especially when you're new. Cheaper to be 1 element

[hollow rose]

What does it mean if a monster has a blue skull looking thing above there head

[static saffron]

Its a Boss o archimounster. In a misión you have to capture souls of all of them. Outside that they have x2 damage, HP and have better % drop

[maiden rivet]

Good Looking out I forget about Communion sometimes

[outer bane]

Ahh true didn’t think about that. I don’t personally play osa but haven’t seen any do that yet I don’t think lol

[maiden rivet]

Hard to Sac a crackler when it's so good for Bestial Healing, but good if you need to swarm damage

[static saffron]

The damage increase IS better than heal i think because work for a 2d turn

[maiden rivet]

It's summon damage though so it's condional on having a bunch of summons active and keeping them alive. Good for Agi, harder for Int, not what you wanna do as Cha since you want the Crackler to hit things.

Where as 30% Max HP heal is always huge

[warm bane]

whats the best element for osa im a returning player but its a bit now

[maiden rivet]

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[warm bane]

thanks

[spark owl]

If I want an int build for Osa, should I go all in with int? Or do I have to put some points in other stats? For example how many points do I have to put into vitality?

[little bramble]

It's recommended to go all in main stat until 300 for newbies, then vit

[spark owl]

Thanks 😉

[kindred warren]

how do you increase your summon damage as an OSA i was 112 and fought a 140 OSA and her dragon was doing double my dragons damage how does it work like what stats help etc

[maiden rivet]

#1215613814054191124 message and summon level

Also Favoritism buff

[kindred warren]

but both dragons had the same buff and the level difference wasnt that big

also whats a good mob to fight at 100ish thats weak to fire

[maiden rivet]

Then it's your stats little bro

[empty jay]

Most damage your summon copies is from your stats.
Im not certain if it was solely gear or if your personal stats also mattered

[little bramble]

Is it worth losing 11 damage just to gain 1 AP if I switch from celestial gobball set to celestial arachnee set? summons don't inherit the AP and I feel like I'm losing a lot of personal damage

I also lose 1 mp if using celestial arachnee, but I do gain 2 summons

[maiden rivet]

Yeah 1 AP + 2 Summons > 1 MP + 11 Damage easy

Generally depends on what new things you can do with that AP, but Osa wants as much as they can get

[little bramble]

Was the spell Favoritism changed? I read old comments about favoritism being able to charge your summons power by sacrificing other summons, but i don't see this in the skill description, how does it work?

[strong cosmos]

It no longer sacrifices other summons. It grants the targeted summon 1 AP (allowing it to use its attack twice in one turn), unlocks the summon's special ability, and grants a hefty damage buff that gets even larger over the course of a few turns. Only one summon can be affected by Favouritism at a time, though; if you cast it on a new summon, the previous Favouritism buff is removed.

[coarse thorn]

Guys what's the best set for a lvl 85 fire Osa?

[little bramble]

I don't know if i made a mistake but i bought the O'Ball set from someone offering it to me for a discount, its only 4 pieces get about 110 int and 1 AP and can use lair or other pieces for your other slots, but it looks expensive though, i bought it for 850kk

[little bramble]

What's a good pet/mount for int osa? I have the battle boar but it doesn't give my summons any damage, is the -100 vit and int petmount the best? How bad is that -100 vit?

[static saffron]

The Battle boar IS more for PvP for the resist.

[maiden rivet]

If you want to be a glass cannon then grab the bird

If you want something ultimately valuable, you'll need an Almond/Emerald DT, but at this point in the server you'll have to breed a lot to get there.

[little bramble]

Can someone explain how to use Substitution properly? I've tried summoning adjacent to a monster and then use substituion, i get healed but the monster doesn't get damaged? i remember i used it before and monster did get damaged but don't remember how i did it

[static saffron]

Deal damage around you position before use it

[maiden rivet]

Yeah it's based around your starting location. So if you're surrounded by enemies or allies you can use substitution to move away, hurt those enemies, and heal those allies.

And if you happen to Substitute with a summon that was right next to you, you'll get healed too.

[little bramble]

What set should I be working on getting/farming? I'm lvl 104 Int build, I'm using a O'Ball set and random pieces for boots,belt,rings

[little bramble]

Is gelano ring/9 ap useful for int osa? I have 8 ap right now but i heard 10 ap is more useful i won't be able to get 10 anytime soon

[maiden rivet]

Osa is a class that thrives on more AP, but I've found 8, 10, and 12 to be the real important numbers since only a few spells cost 3 ap instead of 4, so can be tough to get the full worth out of 9 and 11

[empty jay]

https://touch.dofusbook.net/fr/equipement/1023155-db/objets

Level 114 tho

[empty jay]

9 can be useful. If it doesnt sacrifice other stats its good.
Its not optimal due to combo potential but still

[little bramble]

The limbo wand seems unattainable, is there cheaper option?

[empty jay]

https://www.dofus-touch.com/en/mmorpg/encyclopedia/weapons/8610-bow-liwood

https://www.dofus-touch.com/en/mmorpg/encyclopedia/weapons/200-god-rod

There are more options

[little bramble]

Is shika ingalsse set a waste of time to farm if I'm already lvl 114? I like the combined set bonus stats and doesn't look that far off from the higher lvl sets, just missing fire damage

And the mats look a lot easier for me to farm, I'm struggling to farm the lvl 100+ monsters I'm just not strong enough, can only handle single mobs and takes a long time

[maiden rivet]

It's common to be in undergeared equips as long as you aren't doing PvP. Would be better if you could get stronger gear, but go ahead and finish it and hold onto it as long as you can

[little bramble]

Why Feudala set isn't recommended for int osa? no summons? if I use the 2 summons ring instead of gelano i would have a ton more int with the loss of 1ap to 8 ap, is it worth it?

[maiden rivet]

Sure why not

[little bramble]

I "upgraded" from O'Ball to shika ingalsse set but my Int is the exact same as before , I was already using 2 shika pieces with the o'ball..

I also lost 15% crit and 2 range, but went from 9ap,4mp to 10ap,5mp, is it worth it?

[maiden rivet]

Yes AP and MP are your most important stats

As long as you aren't neglecting other stats to get them, and the only Int spell affected by Range is Ghostly Claw.

[little bramble]

Would royal mastogob be the next upgrade for int osa?

[empty jay]

Well its actually tied to personal preference and cost efficiency. It is a good osa set tho

[maiden rivet]

Swizzle yeah you're getting to the point where these decisions are more up to you and what is feasible for you.

General recommendation is to hold out in what you can until you just can't reasonably progress further and then try to upgrade.

For example as a general rule of someone is willing to grind for good gears I will generally recommend Royal Masto with some Elya Wood pieces and Limbo Wand as long as you get 2 summons on hat, but if that isn't feasible you can look up items on touch.dofusbook.net

[little bramble]

For int osa, what is scroll priority? Do I get 25 small int first? Then normal int? Or do I get small vit first?

[maiden rivet]

Nothing set, but I like to do small ele small vit ele vit great ele great vit pow ele pow vit.

Other way is fine too, it's preference

[digital ocean]

Just started playing the game as osa and just wondering, should I level up the summon spells? Does it increase the summon attack or something?

[digital ocean]

Btw I'm playing int osa

[little bramble]

yes should lvl up all the int summons, and also crackler for bestial heal and maybe boar for pushback

[digital ocean]

I see. Thanks

[little bramble]

I'm farming for an item that has -60 Agi, is this okay for int osa? do i need lock for me or my summons?

What does more damage, lvl 6 koalak mummy or lvl 5 red wyrmling?

[maiden rivet]

If you are Int then you don't need Agi, honestly even Agi Osa doesn't really want lock. Wyrmling is more damage while Koalak supports

[unkempt granite]

Level up gobbal as well, if playing solo it works as a tank, might give you opportunity to run away every now and then plus the cool down is short

Honestly all your summons serve a purpose even if they are on a different elemental branch, maybe you can hold tofu but others should be leveled up

[kindred warren]

where is a good place to fight as an INT osa build im 145 just looking for a good mob that has no fire resist or weak to fire and has decent drops

[little bramble]

if you don't have royal mastogob set can grind in frigost for the drops, but the venerable mastogobs are annoying with high resist

[little bramble]

Is major fire wrecker(+10 fire dmg) or major scholar(+30 int) the better upgrade if I can only choose one

[little bramble]

What osa healing skills are affected by int/heal stat?

[maiden rivet]

Substitution and Koalak

[toxic plover]

does The Deulegarnoulle Amulet give the ability to Osa to summon two monsters at the same time

[deft cove]

What stats should I focus on leveling up?

[maiden rivet]

Pick an element and raise it to 300 with your character stats then put the rest into vit #1215613814054191124 message

[deft cove]

Ok

[ionic mural]

How do I increase my summon limit? Is it just a level up thing??

[stable pelican]

U can only increase with gear

[maiden rivet]

You get equipment that raises it

[severe holly]

Maximum is 6, it is the summon stat on your character page.

[long sparrow]

hello guys just started the game totally newbie i am using Osa the summoner

shall i go full Chance or Int ? for max damage

am yet lvl 2 xD but idk if i can reset points later thats why i ask too early

[tidal fox]

It depends a lot on the taste but Intelligence allows you to do more direct damage yourself because Ghostly Claw is a dual hit attack and these kind of spells scale really well and you also get a stronger baseline Dragon and Koala which are the goat summons for damage.

On the other hand Chance boosts your and your summons damage by a considerable amount (+25% to summons from Lashing Claw and 80 power from Determination, which equals to 80 of all elements), it also allows some funny moves such as using Martyr close to your teammates to give them +15% increased damage for one turn.

I am personally a Chance and Int hybrid because I enjoy switching elements according to the situation but hybrid gear tends to be quite expensive, and in most situations the biggest chunk of your damage comes from the summons anyway so loosing some base damage is not really a big deal

[silk temple]

Is agi osa worth? The concept of a army of tofu is really funny to me, but I really like healing.
Or maybe agi and int, me and my tofus on front line and my koala healing us in the back?

[stable pelican]

I'm playing full agi osa, and its quite fun. U got the benefit of dragon and krachler heal since u won't use these sum for smthn else.

Buffed boar for pb dmg.

And the Tofu army of course. For pvm maybe not the best build but still quite good, for pvp I like it quite much.

[silk temple]

Thanks, but another question, what's the downside of hybrid builds? It has the best of both worlds so what's the tradeoff?

[steep dust]

lower scaling + more expensive

but you gain on versatility

You can always hit the lowest resistance of the 2

And get the side effects from spells from both elements and not get punished dmg wise for using them

[silk temple]

I understand thank you, I'm having trouble choosing between full int, full agi, agi+int or cha+int, any suggestions about those builds?

[tidal fox]

having troubles choosing what Osa to play is pretty much the daily trouble an Osa has 😂 chance+int is a good solo farmer you'll forget healing items exist, most of the time you end up using determination+lashing claw even on water resistant enemies solely for how hard the Dragon hits

but whatever you do, whatever you choose and whatever you like, max the Boar he's the goat when things go south

[silk temple]

Oh wow I thought the boar was by far the worst, why is he the goat?

[tidal fox]

he's really good at keeping enemies at bay and also dealing with pushing related mechanics

and in a big emergency like the enemy being immune to both water and fire it can be used for damage although that's not a common scenario

there are plenty of things you can do with a 5 square push extension of yourself

[silk temple]

Thanks!!

[tidal fox]

Well to be fair wether you use Determination or not is really context heavy 😂

i made it sound like "NEVER USE CRACKLER PUNCH" but is more of a numbers thing

[silk temple]

hahahaha no problem, thanks for the tips

[silk temple]

Hey how does the summon scaling work with the characteristics? Is it directly related like higher int higher koala damage? The brown border on the skill means it also scales with earth?

[tidal fox]

the brown border indicates the spell is a summon, the color of the icon is the element of the summon (for osa's summons at least) and except for the Tofu which i dont know they receive 50% of the stat associated with their element from your equipment (mount included), so if you have 300 int from gear the koala gets 150 extra

vitality scaling is different for every summon i think

they also receive 50% of "X elemental damage" of their element from your gear

they do not however scale with general damage or power granted from gear, but they do benefit from it if it is a buff in battle

% could vary based on the summon spell level, you can check all the summon stats when it is their turn in battle

[steep dust]

is there any public dofus book profile with decent sets for each bracket? that is updated

[empty jay]

Gamosaurus has some
https://www.gamosaurus.com/jeux/dofus-touch/guides-de-stuff-sur-dofus-touch

[silk temple]

Thanks, but is it only gear based scaling? What about characteristics scaling?

[boreal kayak]

yeah summons also scale with characteristics

[tidal fox]

the base stat scaling goes to their "base" stats then i presume? i didnt mention it because i dont like to state something I'm not sure of

gear scaling is easy to check because it's just half of your extra thats why i ask

honestly i thought they didnt scale at all from your allocated stats 😂 but i trust you

[boreal kayak]

hmm I'm just going by the devblog when osa got its revamp, not sure if they've changed it since:
https://www.dofus-touch.com/en/mmorpg/news/devblog/tickets/1025340-osamodas-redesign#1025340_nav_3

says total, so I assume it's gear + allocated points

[tidal fox]

to be fair Osa is awfully documented, i checked my Crackler has 150 base Chance and i have 200 base Chance so unless the scaling from base stats is awfully low maybe there's none at all

at least with this last update we finally know the damage value of Substitution 😂

that post is pre Exaltation at lvl 200 so probably back then it worked that way base+extra

[maiden rivet]

Yeah it was found earlier in this channel that the elemental stat inheritance only takes equipment into account

[tidal fox]

What about vitality scrolls? Did someone test it? Im certain the other scrolls have no effect since they act as base stats

[empty jay]

I checked the french discord. Has best info.
All vitality gets passed down. Both equip and character points.

The elements get only passed down through gear.

[tidal fox]

i see thanks for checking!

[shy fractal]

Could someone please explain how to use the koakal curse the heart ability, and how do I use the heal that supposedly heals people in the area?

[maiden rivet]

Regarding Vitality inheritance, It's all Vitality, but the Life gained through level ups and the base you start with aren't affected

[maiden rivet]

It used to be in an area around the target, now it isn't.

Now you cast blessing on an ally, and when the Koalak hits an enemy, allies that are blessed get a proportional heal

[shy fractal]

Ohhh, not my dumb self casting it on myself and immediately hitting myself with a 90 damage spell

I play full int so my koakal is a little strong against weak fire resistant enemies

[maiden rivet]

Hey that's fair, some things in this game aren't really intuitive. And yeah as full Int your Koalak will be strong.

[shy fractal]

As full into my koakal and wyrem will be the strongest right

[maiden rivet]

Correct

[shy fractal]

I have 2 summons since I happened to look at the farmers gloves that give 1 summon and immediately bought them.

So I kinda depend on gobal just to eat hits and distract enemies as I kill the others with koakal and my dragon slash

I just wish they gave us favoritism early on, seems like a stretch to get it at 59.

[maiden rivet]

Yeah each of the others can be used for utility well, and can be good damage tanks until endgame in PvM

[shy fractal]

I did realize something though, I went into the tofu dungeon with a osa and we didn't use the heart thing but it kept healing us when we both summoned koakal and used it.

[maiden rivet]

Tbh Osas get one of the easiest PvM rides early on

[shy fractal]

Ofc we agree that tofu doesn't exist unless you play full agi

And want a army

[maiden rivet]

Actually, disagree, it's also useful as fodder for Martyr or Substitution

[shy fractal]

I personally haven't used it and it was healing me and him, maybe it's a weird interaction or bug

[shy fractal]

Now as someone who doesn't have any of those 2 abilities I probably didn't know that

[maiden rivet]

Yeah that's fair, keep an open mind as you level. Osa has a good amount of reasons to use "out of element" summons for every build, even if you don't need to level them.

[shy fractal]

I am currently 45, so basically don't use tofu, the crow, and that's it I think

Whip is useful but I never found a situation where I should use it

[maiden rivet]

As for Koalak healing without blessing, idk could be a bug or maybe something has changed since I played Osa.

[shy fractal]

Could be because, it kept healing every singe time and I am sure he didn't even use his heart ability because I didn't too.

[maiden rivet]

As Int you probably won't use Gust, Crow, Whip, Determination, Lashing Claw, or Martyr aside from niche situations.

[shy fractal]

Whip I use to hypothetically kill a summon before it dies next turn.
Determination just for the plus boost in power it gives me and my summon.
I forgot about lasing claw, gust, and what does martyr do?

But I never got a chance to use whip like that because I am always far away, I treat my gobals and koakal like Pokémon, I stay behind and just use them to fight mostly if the enemy is far. They take one and i take one

[maiden rivet]

Martyr is a Chance spell that creates a 2 cell circle AoE explosion around the summon when it dies, which also buffs ally damage for a turn.

[shy fractal]

You know suddenly tofu gained a new job in my arsenal of spells

Feel bad for the lil fella, but atleast he is part of the team once I get that him and gobal

And with tofu on the field I might use crow too, just incase I need to push something

[maiden rivet]

Yeah you probably won't need to level it as iirc it has a once a turn CD at level 1, but can still be good

If you need to push something, Boar will take care of that more often than Crow or Gust (unless ur Agi)

[shy fractal]

I can't wait for boar though, I hear alot of good talk about him being strong and good. Probably what I am looking forward to

[maiden rivet]

Yeah PB isn't appropriately balanced for early game so it's OP for a while

[shy fractal]

I wish I am that unique to play agi, you won't see me complaining about tofu if I was agi

But if am honest sadida has the best tank summons so far from what I seen.

The block is so op at the start of The game

[maiden rivet]

Yeah I played Osa on Grandapan for years, was Tri, Int, and Agi. Agi's range and PB is a lot of fun

[shy fractal]

I assume you tried other classes like osa too, that's what I am doing when I get a little bored of osa gameplay.

Sadida is just amazing and easy and a blessing.

Foggernaut if you see the conversation in chat, I just learned about and seems fun honestly

[maiden rivet]

Won a couple PvP fights I may not have otherwise just bc people prepare for Int when they see Osa. Agi surprised em

[shy fractal]

How do you even prepare for int osa, what exactly do you do build alot of fire resistance?

[maiden rivet]

Well I did most of me experimentation when I started the game in 07. In recent years I stuck with my favorites Sacrier and Osa and tried different builds with em. Most recently I've been full chance Xelor on Epsilon for a bunch of fun.

[shy fractal]

Speaking of agi, is there any class that's meant to be played as full agi - vit.

I really need to try agi at least once so far i have a full str, full int, and 70/30 int-chance

You probably can guess who is osa, sadi, and fogger

[maiden rivet]

Yeah basically in 1v1 Kolos at Opti 200 level, you have different equipment load outs to prepare for what's meta. Mostly it's changes in Resistance, so they'd pick gear with high fire res since the common Osa is Int Osa.

[shy fractal]

I mostly played osa back in wakfu in 2012, when he was actually versatile and fun. This osa is fun but also way too simplified

[shy fractal]

Well good to know, not that I even like pvp or will do pvp.

[maiden rivet]

Regarding this, Touch is actually in a pretty good state rn for it's builds. If it has a elemental path available, you can go Mono in that element and be viable in PvM

[shy fractal]

This is so sad I swear how come no one I have fun talking to is playing in dodge it's always grand or epsilon

I am thinking of grinding the plant set in the astrud fields, how long do you think that could take? Since I am too weak to grind gobals and I can't get their set yet.

[maiden rivet]

Haha well Epsilon is the new server and there was a big thing for it in spring, most English speaking players moved there when it opened.

[shy fractal]

If only I knew that before spending 4 days in dodge and getting attached to the time I spent.

[maiden rivet]

Are you following the Astrub quests? Have you been doing the Lair achievements? You get free equips from them.

[shy fractal]

Excuse me? What liar

I am tyring the key master stuff and I keep asking people to do the dungeons for me since it's way too hard

Since I am stuck in the cemetery of heroes final part in the quest

You mean the rough em up?

[maiden rivet]

There's a Lair in most Astrub sections, they are 1v1 fights that give free equipment if you beat the Celestial mobs in 5 turns or less

[shy fractal]

I currently stopped at the gobals, no way in hell am I beating gobals

[maiden rivet]

What about the Tofus?

[shy fractal]

About that, can I redo the celestial stuff and keep getting equipment?

I wanted the full celestial tofu set but I didn't know if I can keep doing them

[maiden rivet]

You can retry them every day, but you only get the equipment once not multiple sets

[shy fractal]

So I keep going until I collect all the pieces

[maiden rivet]

Also sometimes mobs drop badges so you can use those to retry

Yeah

[shy fractal]

Okay, is the celestial tofu set good for osa?

Int osa to be exact

[maiden rivet]

Tbh Osa has a tougher time than the other classes in the Lair Gear bc it's Power gear and Summons don't inherit Power, but it's a lot better than grinding low level gear out.

If you really want to grind out some gear, go for Gobball set

[shy fractal]

Will do once I am lvl 65

[maiden rivet]

Like regular Gobball set in this case not the Lair Gobball

[shy fractal]

For now which liar set is good to grind for tofu and below

I can't do the celestial gobals yet

[maiden rivet]

Just clear the achievements in order

Get Piwi, the Plops, then Tofu

[shy fractal]

Yea that sounds very fair, I can prob get the full piwi set in no time

I planned to sleep early but it seems like I might sleep late again

Thanks for the talk though I really enjoyed it and learned alot of information

[maiden rivet]

Sure thing take care

[shy fractal]

I bought a bow that gives extra int and vit for 20k.(mainly cuz i sometimes love to keep space and the bow almost does the same damage as the ghost claw, so it's a win win)

Probably too late to mention but do you think that's a good choice?

Also as for the mount I kinda need help, how do I even get a mount and which one should I get for my int osa?

[inner lava]

The fastest way to get a mount is through buying a certificate from the marketplace (getting one yourself will take awhile). If you want to boost your Int stat try looking for "Orchid" mounts

Also make sure the mount you want to buy is actually mountable

[shy fractal]

Wait what do you mean mountable

Some mounts aren't mountable

Also should I change my bow for a gobal hammer for that extra summon incase I could use it?

[inner lava]

Some mounts cannot be equipped so if you buy them you cant use them
You can check if they are mountable on the mounts menu

Going for the hammer is better imo

[verbal wolf]

do i lose ability to summon if i summon enough dregg/crackler? -1 summon seems rather annoying

[shy fractal]

You have a limited summon

Starts as 1 and max is 6 I believe

If you have 3 you can only summon 3

Unlike foggernaut who can summon 4 turrets with 1 summon.

Osa and sadida are different

[empty jay]

The -1 summon is to balance tbe summons. Having a field full of dragons or cracklers might be to much in PvP. Sadly
You can have max tofu tho

[verbal wolf]

oh i see

ok also one more question, is going for sets worth it or can i keep going setless at lvl 100? dont know at what point buying gear is worth in epsilon server

this is for int osa btw

[empty jay]

You can use the lair sets. They are good enough. Then after level 100+ you can look for better crafted sets

[graceful scarab]

Hi! Is Osa in a good spot now? Beginner to Ankama series. Should I go agi for leveling?

[empty jay]

Osa is in a great spot. Some people think it needs more nerfing so haha.

Agi is not that amazing all around. Most people go with intel.
Intel: high survival through healing (koalak) (ghostly claw) and AoE (crackler punch)

Agi: movement and placement due to pushback (boar) and swapping (tofu)

Chance: high damage and tanky (crackler spell) pulls (gobball spell) also AoE (crackler)

Me myself im a chance main. But i recommend going intel.
Also has better team synergy. A healing member is always welcome

All of them can heal but the generic heal requires a summon sacrifice

[random hamlet]

Every time I watch an osa solo anything at higher levels, they legit never use their summons aside from position swapping with tofu or boar pushing. Seems largely unplayable at end game levels.

[empty jay]

True thats because the summons die instantly in endgame. Their effectiveness drops the higher you go.

I wouldnt say they become unplayable because of this tho. They are one of the more powerfull buffers

[tidal fox]

Comunion a Dragon then Substitution a Martired Tofu into your party and you gave them 200 power, 15% damage increase and an acceptable heal

altho the heal range from substi is tiny so that portion might not happen 😂

[hearty shoal]

Hey guys, anyone got a guide for an Int Osa? Been looking on the web but haven't found anything yet.

[silk temple]

Whenever u do find it send it to me please

[empty jay]

What guide you looking for? Leveling, gear, spells?

[hearty shoal]

All of them but leveling

[hearty shoal]

Also, I've been having trouble in Trools Lair killing the Troololens in 5 turns for the set. Lvl 95 atm, Int Osa, scrolled to 100 Int (Total Int 540), 8 AP, 1k HP, 5 Summons.

Any tips highly appreciated!

[tidal fox]

best tip i can give you for it is take advantage of Crackler Punch and/or Substitution AoE with the Persistant Flame from the dragon since it doesn't need Line of Sight in case he absorbs fire, but Troololens is better to be faced at lvl 100+ so you have the extra AP and potential level 6 skills

unless you're pretty decked with crazy stuff for these level 90s is an awful battle, and worse if you can't plan Martyrs ahead

[silk temple]

Hey, is a high vitality and tanky osamodas viable? Someone in this discord told me that vitality is the only stat from characteristics that pass down to summons, I'm currently using a int osa, where I tank and use crackler punch while my koalak heal me and does damage from the back (eventually the dragon too)
I was think about leveling around 200 int and the rest vitality, and then getting a int set with some high defense

[tidal fox]

from the stats you allocate (including scrolls) yeah only vit is accounted, the offensive stats scale from gear

and a pretty beefy Osa is what they do for pvp pretty much

that's why they're quite hated since by the time they take some hits they throw a Heal from a Crackler or Dragon and get a third of their health back 😂

for regular play you still want to pack a punch yourself tho, Ghostly Claw scales like crazy

[silk temple]

Lmao I play mostly PvE so I won't piss off many people, is there a guide for this kind of build?

Also, what's the most versatile build for osamodas? In a sense that every summon is viable and can be used based on the needs?

[tidal fox]

Int and Chance build, like 200 and 200 of each stat and the rest vit, but hybrid gear tends to be quite expensive

and they're skill points intensive as well since you use a lot of spells

i can't tell you like a specific guide for pure int since im int+chance myself and I'd end up giving you wrong info accidentally, you'd search for pure Int and Fire Damage gear with a lot of health and some Range I'd presume

regardless of being sets or not, probably is easier to find pure element non set gear with good stats

i dont think you would need a lot of Heal stat since the Koalak only gets 50% from you and the biggest portion of the self damage heal comes from its obscene base anyway

pure Int tho is still like crazy strong unless the enemy has really high fire resistance, once you start having great int and fire damage the Dragon doesnt really care about resistance

hybrid is more of your go-to classic summoner, using Gobballs and Cracklers as decoys, boosting all summons damage by 25% with a maxed Lashing Claw, self sufficient but not particularly overstrong in every area

i dont use it a lot but i also have the Boar maxed just in case i need the pushing for some mechanic, the only summon i dont actively use is the Tofu which is Martyr and Substitution material

[silk temple]

I see, I'm currently running a full int and I level every summon, Im fairly new at the game so been kinda experimenting

But thank you tho!!

[tidal fox]

you're welcome! experiencing with skills is fairly cheap since resetting a spell only requires a few doploons so don't hesitate too much to test stuff, you'll see more or less what's the point of each skill

I'd continue that pure int road if i were you since you already scrolled 100 int

[silk temple]

Lmao it was another dude that scrolled, but yeah I'll stick to int for now thanks!!

[tidal fox]

rofl

[empty jay]

Overlevel and boar has best dmg if you maximise pushback

[tidal fox]

^ that's valid even for non agility and pushback builds since the pushback damage is not spread so you can just focus on the real Trool

it's either full aoe gorila mode or full pushback on the boss

[hearty shoal]

Gomna try stacking pushback, money is not an issue gear-wise

Tried abusing Cracklers Punch but at lvl 96, its only lvl 5

Can only be cast once per turn until lvl 6 (And definately need to down the Trools before lvl 130-140 to keep their set relevant)

[tidal fox]

to be completely honest with you if money is not the problem since you scrolled 100 int which that already is quite expensive that set is not gonna do much for you

you're better off getting an actual set for your build than using Trool set which lacks a ton of vit, initiative and offensive stats your summons could benefit of

think of that set as a super generalist set which pretty much every combination of gear below and above that level outclasses, it's nice if you level an alt who doesn't share elements or if you sold your old gear and are catching up and what not

[static saffron]

You can use the Troll set
In tour 2do ord third pj

[hearty shoal]

Thanks for the tips fellas

[hearty shoal]

Do you use Lashing Claw for the damage bonus even on Int builds?

[tidal fox]

Only if the damage the summons will do can offset the difference of doing close to no damage with Lashing Claw, it's kind of a vague answer I know 😂

in short fights when your Dragon or Koala (depending on your level) doesn't reach level 3 Favouritism generally is not worth it since it also happens the other spell of the same cost which is Ghostly Claw is really good once you have good stats

it's pretty much a math thing you have to test yourself

if the fight drags enough and you have a bunch of summons around then yeah that 25% extra damage goes crazy

although when you get the Dragon at level 6 at Favo 2 the damage could be great enough for Lashing to be worth but that's at lvl 185 and I'm not pure int to tell you it's 100% the case

[hearty shoal]

Thanks!

[tidal fox]

you're welcome

[hearty shoal]

Rak, by the way, when does Ghostly Claw start to catch up? lvl 99 with 550 total Int and it still feels a relatively low impact spell for the AP cost

Whereas Cracklers Punch does a lot more for only 1 extra AP

[tidal fox]

it benefits more from Damage and Fire Damage stats since both hits receive the benefits

when you transition to these 120-140s gears you will notice the impact since that's when you start receiving good Critical chance and Damage stats

[hearty shoal]

Ty! Is the Voyager trophy good? (+1 MP, -20 Dodge/lock)

[static saffron]

Yes, It IS.

[empty jay]

Easiest way to get 6mp.
Mp Boots
Voyager
And set bonus or mount is already 6 mp
So yeah its real good

[hearty shoal]

Thanks man

[tidal fox]

and the penalty is pretty much a formality since what's meant to lock or dodge you will do it anyway 😂

[hearty shoal]

I've been able to solo pretty much all dungeons so far, even blitzkrieg the Royal Gobball, but I'm hard stuck on Bworkette (since she heals a bunch, and my Dragon/Koala pretty much get 1-2 shot on her turn, so the healing block doesnt last long). That, and the annoying 48% fire res she has 😦

Any tips? Currently lvl 104, 770ish Int, 1.4k HP, 10/5 AP/MP

[hearty shoal]

Got her but not on First Position 😦

[empty jay]

Use boar and pushback damage

[hearty shoal]

Are pushback sets / pieces cheap?

[hearty shoal]

Just beat all lairs and gotta say the hardest one by far to get under 5 turns was Troololens

The final one felt much easier for some reason

[silk temple]

Hey any set suggestion for a int osamodas lvl 78?

[empty jay]

Depends on the info you need. Sugg for what?

[silk temple]

Armor set please

[empty jay]

https://touch.dofusbook.net/fr/equipement/517751-osamodas-feu-84/objets

You can always choose cheaper options or things you like more. This is just an example

[silk temple]

Thanks!!?

[sand pendant]

Anyway to cut summon control off? It’s great for tough battles but a chore for easy battles

[empty jay]

Having full control can get tiresome indeed

[static saffron]

Dont summon

[cinder dew]

XD 🤣

[static saffron]

When farm i play without summon. Or only the favorite summon

[tidal fox]

sounds like a "git gud 4head" answer but it's true 😂 you just summon what's necessary on low fights

[cinder dew]

@obtuse wraith all your osa questions can be asked here to learn from the pros

[obtuse wraith]

@cinder dew thx so much!

[ember glade]

Hi would like to confirm how does summon damage calculation works?

[dusky mist]

How should I start using my char points help? I have 200 in int and 100 in vit so far. Going for a int build.

[empty jay]

Most people put points in their main stat until it is at 300 then rest in vit.
What you are doing is also fine 200 int and then all vit.

[empty jay]

Sorry man. Cant say i know

[dusky mist]

Thanks for the tip

[smoky oar]

As I know is calculated based on bonus characteristic devidedby 2... So if all your set and stuff give u 800 than summon benefit 400

Do you have idea how to kill same lvl foggernaut? If starting first? Pvp

[empty jay]

Damage. So not just stats

[smoky oar]

Sure forgot also damage 😉

[empty jay]

Noo haha. That isnt what i meant.
The op asked what the damage calculations were. Like what is the formula for the damage summons deal?

[static saffron]

Its the same. Only need read the spell damage of their spells summons

[gusty ember]

Buff oda pls

[smoky oar]

Exactly it is calculated as character spells damage

[static saffron]

No. When fight see your spell summons.

[tidal fox]

that's what he means, the damage is calculated the same way your character damage is, it just uses the values of the summon spells and stats

[static saffron]

How many squares push the 4AP agi osa spell? I remember push 4 before.

[empty jay]

3 squares at level 6

[hearty shoal]

Guys, which summon do you recommend to use Favo on? Lvl 4 Wyrmling of Lvl 6 Koalak? (113 Osa here)

[static saffron]

Test both

In putch

[empty jay]

Test. And also look at spell dmg whilst you are controlling the summons. Might give a solid idea

[hearty shoal]

Will do, ty.

From lvl 5+ I assume Wyrmling is the superior choice on almost every scenario, but its gonna take a while to get to 135, and Koalak has the advantage of wider range

[hearty shoal]

Tested both and surprisingly, the lvl 6 Koalak is doing around 500 dmg per 3 AP after Favo III compared to lvl 4 Wyrmling (350-400)

Summons level must have the highest impact in damage formula

Lvl 114 now with 820 Int

[empty jay]

That kind of makes sense. Difference between lv4 and 6 spells is big thats why they rebalanced the unlock level

[empty jay]

This is a freak ton of int at your level 😅

[hearty shoal]

Thanks!

[tidal fox]

at level 6 is when the Dragon's damage becomes a force to be reckoned with, iirc at lvl 5 its damage is similar if not just slightly higher than Koalak 6 but as you mentioned the mobility and range of the Koalak are really good

chances are you will rock that spinning furry until 185

unless you need to dispel or drop unhealable

[smoky oar]

Gain summon 50% of crytical from stuff? Also or this characteristic not... Second question if yes try somebody cryt osa? 😂

[empty jay]

No they dont

Only HP
Fire/water/air element
Fire/water/air elemental damage

But who know after the revamp

[smoky oar]

Really hp? 😉 I think it is calculated based on lvl your and number of enemy

[tidal fox]

HP from gear is the way they get the biggest boost

for reference Unequipped/Equipped
Dragon 290 / 784
Crackler 506 / 1000
Gobball 398 / 892

and that's me with my humble stats, those omega stacked Osas who run with like 5k+ HP are even nastier

[empty jay]

Also koalak gets a portion of your healing done
Boar gets a portion of your pushback buff

[tidal fox]

i tend to forget the Koalak does indeed inherit a portion of your bonus heal 😂

[empty jay]

Imo its a bit vague so its understandable

[warm lotus]

Why the summons dont play alone anymore? I have to control them

[maiden rivet]

Bc it's better that way, they're dumb on their own

[empty jay]

Update

[tidal fox]

don't bother he peaced out a bit after making the question 😂

[tidal fox]

How many times we've read the "it will make battles so slooooow" while Osa enjoyers take their turn and whatever amount of summons they've deployed faster than the person who complained about it

[empty jay]

Its more player issue imo. Players not knowing how to approach their turn.
But i do have to say summons sometimes create lag (could also just be group play that triggers it or connection)

[tidal fox]

the connection thing is true tho, the game has a tendency of imploding when there's a bit of lag 😂

i dont take issue with a player taking their time i want to make that clear, is that sting of complaining about slowness while being slow what triggers me

[rich elk]

Any guide for osamodas stats spell priority gearing

[tidal fox]

Right now it's complicated because Osa will get some major changes we still have no idea about save for minor details so everything we tell you will be outdated when they happen

That being said Intelligence Osa is your safest bet

[rich elk]

Thanks a lot

If i pick int osa what should i focus on stats

[tidal fox]

200 Intelligence and the rest Vitality gives you solid damage and great health which Osa benefits a lot from, 300 Intelligence and the rest Vitality scratches a bit more damage in exchange. For PVP i can't really tell you someone will pop and clarify but since I read you preffer to go solo I'd go for 200 Int

you get one free reset in case you change your mind and the game also resets stats and spells when there are big changes

[rich elk]

So first focus on 200 INT and after vit

And what sets for level 50

[tidal fox]

yeah

[rich elk]

What sets you recommend for low level and budget

[tidal fox]

that's just me throwing a guess since I just used the Lair sets you get from beating the Celestial monsters but Fire Kwak looks decent, 1 AP and 1 Summon

and 2 range to throw Claws from even further 😂

[rich elk]

So need to grind money for this

[tidal fox]

Lairs are bosses you have to defeat solo, you can find them as a Sword icon on the map. Defeating them under certain turnos gives you free sets which are acceptable

the first quests will lead you to the Lairs too

[rich elk]

Okey so there is fire kwak lair

[tidal fox]

no, Fire Kwak is an actual set you have to buy or craft

[rich elk]

What summon is good to use at start koalak?

[tidal fox]

yeah mainly Koalak and Dragon for damage and Gobball for distracting, blocking, annoying enemies so they don't get at you

every summon has its purpose tho but that's a thing you'll learn in time

like maybe you need to keep enemies far away or do pushback damage to remove invulnerability then the Boar is love

[rich elk]

How to incrase summon damage INT? Or something another

And also hp

[tidal fox]

they get a portion of their respective elemental stat (Intelligence) and elemental damage (Fire Damage) from gear, trophies/dofus, mounts and stat scrolls

and HP from all sources, they dont get Intelligence through the Intelligence you allocated as points, so for example having 0 or 300 Int you put when leveling has no effect on Koalak

it's weird but it is what it is 😂

of course summons of other elements scale with their element but i preffer to just use the Fire examples to keep it clean and simple

[rich elk]

Okey so what lair set is set is good for osa that i can later start farming Red kwak set

[tidal fox]

Celestial Gobball requires level 55 and is the easiest good to get, gives 1 MP and general Damage
Celestial Arachnee requires level 75 and is more suited for summoners giving 1 AP and 1 Summon but that one is tricky to kill under 5 turns

while they ask higher level than the Kwak set the Lair sets are worse for Osas because they don't benefit the summons

and they are general and free sets

[empty jay]

Sadly lair sets are flawed. They are fine as is but are lacking in providing damage to summons (summons gain damage through +stat point and also +elemental damage, fire=dragon+koalak so on and so forth)

[tidal fox]

yeah most likely he'll get the celestial gobball set which gives nice damage and work on an actual set from there

the arachnee is a deal breaker for new players

or for some classes in general 😂

[wanton coral]

Hello! Does anyone know if it's possible to make the summons attack on their own again?

[maiden rivet]

It is not

[rich elk]

Red wyrming or koala for pvm

[empty jay]

Both but wyrm is stronger if both at lvl6

Koalak is nice for the heals

[rich elk]

Cause im nearly 85 and wanna know if there is a big difference

[empty jay]

Wyrm is really strong. Koalak has better range.
Wyrm has 1 attack that hits through walls and makes unhealable

[smoky oar]

Not sure if already some try new beta osa and there's bugs 😂😂 but I have to ask about whip spell what oreginal y kill summon and give you ap but now down description is when you are in state of animal example dragon you have to received extra 30 power bonus but there s just ap boost as in past

Effects:
• Kills the target
• 30 Power (2 turns)
• 100% of level to shield (2 turns)
• 1 Range (2 turns)
Kills one of the caster's class summons and refunds its AP cost to the caster.
When cast on an enemy, the spell inflicts damage in the caster's best element. This damage is greater if the target is an enemy summons.
1
Points remaining:
An additional effect may be applied depending on the caster's animal form:

• Dragon Form: adds a Power bonus effect on allies around the target
• Colossal Form: adds a shield effect on allies around the target
• Celestial Form: adds a Range bonus effect on allies around the target

[empty jay]

This is if you hit an enemy if i am correct. If you hit an enemy with a friendly next to the enemy whilst you are in animal form you grant these bonusses

[smoky oar]

aaa okej

okej tehre s bug 😄 😄 😄 it recover killed summon on space of enemy on same cell

but you are right in drago it give you

[tidal fox]

there's also a small bug where a Tofu (maybe other summons too but that's the one i encountered) is placed on top of the enemy so the AP recover might have come from that since the game most likely implodes from having 2 entities on the same cell 😂

[nimble epoch]

Well

I guess we no longer on the broken category

[maiden rivet]

Nah, there's always someone with something to blame Osa for

[unkempt granite]

Yeah they always find a lame excuse. Like those who 1v1 srams and lose and suddenly is the srams fault for using their invisibility in fight

[nimble epoch]

Still hating on sram for that

[dense lintel]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but can someone suggest me a good set for Int-Cha Osa level between 160-180? I usually play solo PvM

[empty jay]

https://touch.dofusbook.net/fr/equipement/2204997-db/objets

[dense lintel]

Thank you

[bold widget]

Hey guys.New to game but old fan of series. I'm supposed to start putting points into the spells ..etc. is there a guide anywhere that explains it more? I saw some videos and found stuff on Google including builds but I also saw that this class has been changed so those builds aren't valid. Any good current place or game guide?

Also I ran into an article where the person said that every class is dead , including this one, and a certain ones used. Is this true?

[static saffron]

I don't like the last revamp but the class is good.

[wary yew]

Hello can someone suggest me a good set for Agi-Cha Osa level between 160-180. I often play Pvp. Thank you in advance!

[empty jay]

Try these websites

https://papycha.fr/guide-debutant/

https://www.gamosaurus.com/jeux/dofus-touch/guides-de-stuff-sur-dofus-touch

Most info is sadly really vague or french

[empty jay]

https://touch.dofusbook.net/fr/equipement/search?keywords=Osa

[empty jay]

Best place to put spell points in is you main damage spells and your main element summons

[valid steeple]

Now that Osa's can control their summons is there a way to make them control themselves again? I often DO want to control them but if I am like lazily farming I'd like them to control themselves again. Is this possible?

[empty jay]

Play another class or just use spells 😅

[valid steeple]

I mean its not a deal breaker for me I wast just wondering if there was a way lol

[empty jay]

It was amazing tho. Farming easy mobs by just summoning

[wary yew]

Anyone here can suggest an updated set for lvl 180 Cha-Agi Osa? I often do pvp. Thank you in advance!

[lone jolt]

So nice

[indigo cairn]

Also wanna ask about Cha-Agi Osa cause a lot of the abilities look good for each, my osa is only lv 3X tho and I mainly do pvm

[empty jay]

What is your question?

[indigo cairn]

Just any tips lol I play mostly solo pvm is it good for that
Also is there a site or guide that says which spells I should be upgrading

[topaz orbit]

Hi, I’m playing for the first time since the revamp. Does ghostly claw not heal anymore? It says it does on the spell description but it doesn’t give me any health back, not even in dragon form

[outer bane]

It heals in a aoe or on direct contact, old one was a steal

[empty jay]

It heals in AoE while in dragon form or while directly targeting an ally

[wraith delta]

is agi good for pvm till 200?

[empty jay]

Id say all 3 are good until 200. Chance only has damage tho. Sadly the good healing is removed from chance.
Agi is solid tho with all the shields and the healing claw. Also has the most tanky summons.

I feel like fire is more team based

[final tide]

I am new to game
Which class do you suggest ?
I fell this class is the best for solo player , right??

[final tide]

Some help please 🙏

[glass gale]

What do you think is the best build at the moment voor Osa? Cha, agi, int? Or hybrid?

Both PvE as PVP

[static saffron]

Int

Chance and agi lack of range

[empty jay]

Sacrier is good for solo

[final tide]

Many thanks ♥️

[frigid mirage]

anyone got some good guides for the new int osa?

[empty jay]

New from beta you mean?

[frigid mirage]

from live :V

like, I'm coming back, and from my team wanna just play with my 200 osa until I get the grasp oh the game again

is there a new rework coming?

[empty jay]

Yes some tweaks from beta

[frigid mirage]

got it

is dragon form worth it on osa?

played a bit and still only using summons

didn't see dragon form as that good tbh

[empty jay]

I heard it wasnt up to par with summons no

I do feel its more for teamplay tho

[hollow rose]

hi im lvl 33 and iv been maining int and vit only is this wrong i also can anyone tell me the general level people usually get summon+ items around?

[empty jay]

Depends on set pieces

Some lair sets grant +summon

[rigid socket]

Does the osas vit still affect the summons life pool?

[static saffron]

Yed

[empty jay]

Iirc all vit is taken into acc for summons on osa. So also gear related

[rigid socket]

Ok, thanks for the info.

[odd gull]

Guys what is the best element for koli 3v3 ?

For osa low lvl 80

[low musk]

What stat should I main for osa

I mainly wanna do pvm and a lil pvp

[empty jay]

If you are in a group it doesnt matter.

If solo agi or int is recommended. Cause you have self healing.
Agi is most sustain.
Int is most team support.
Chance is most damage

[low musk]

So if I'm doing solo is int/cha good?

[empty jay]

Int/chance is amazing. But early on not recommended cause it costs alot of kamas to make optimal

[low musk]

Oh kk

[delicate crag]

Hey guys, could you help me with a good intelligence set for an Osamodas? I'm pretty much just focusing on intelligence for now, I just reached level 101, and I don't know which skill to use. I honestly don't even know what I'm doing properly; I have no experience with anything related to intelligence or summoning.

[broken mango]

Hello, Guys! I have and 190 str iop and a 170 osamodas that plays together. I need a good build/set to Osa to complement Iop experience and, obviously, plays alone when needed. Can someone help me with Osa Build/set, please? I was thinking about a set that could be used until 190, or something like this.

Edit: I was thinking about the possibility of doing hybrid builds, for using one element inv + other element beast mode (idk how it is called in english, sorry). Is it viable? Is it viable in "low level" as 170?

[unkempt granite]

Very doable, I played most of the time as a hybrid intelligence chance.

Minotot set should do just fine until you reach like 190

Spell management is the hardest though as an hybrid. So focus on leveling up summons, support spells and then one spell int one chance. If you feel like you need more spell points ignore crackeler (if you’re going int/cha path) better to have Gobbal maxed out as the respawn is shorter

In the current situation you hardly will use 4pa spells as you will focus more on using your summons and boosting them. So both claws and substitution will help greatly.

[balmy perch]

Hi guys! I'm thinking of picking this class and I just started, but I don't know exactly what element to go for..

[maiden rivet]

Agi if you want to tank in melee. Cha for big damage at mid range. Int for support at far range.

[balmy perch]

Ok so I tried chance and it does do a lot of dmg combined with the bird (100-ish on no ma used with corrosion on target) but I do struggle with keeping up with the bird summon to apply the corrosion on the enemy if they're too far

The sheep is the debuff summon yes? I'll be testing it tomorrow since it seems easier to maintain cuz of the green skill that drains hp