#Buff JUNKERS JU 188 E

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edgy beacon
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This bomber is not worth it at all why 5-6 body is good but doesn't do anything but fury and I only really saw it with Eagle Day and it's a special so I think it's might be worth buffing? with a text saying take 2 less damage from ground units or something because it's 7k and cost 6k to used it twice and there maelstorm or Annihilation that works bit better than this bomber and This card is only playable with Eagle day and once Eagle day when than it's died off so what the point of having a card that is needed a other card to play it so yea and my thoughts are make

  • it take 2 less damage from ground/orders
  • when this unit destroy a unit you gain 2 kredits for each time it destroy a unit
  • Deployment add a Glide Bombing to hand
    and it's slow to I think
neon token
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Make it 2op

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!junkers

white gustBOT
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neon token
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I swear it used to be 8k lol

edgy beacon
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Yea and it's only used in a combo deck with %eagle day%

white gustBOT
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ember nova
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The problem with 4+ cost bombers is that they usually either have to have an effect that affects the table immediately, like Deployment or an end of turn passive effect, or have Blitz.

The problem with Junkers is that it doesn't have that. You can't really Blitz this card because it's dangerous, so it's better to give it some Deployment. The idea of ​​Glide Bombing is ok, but I doubt anyone will play it any longer. I'd rather see something like: Deployment: Destroy an enemy ground unit with a cost of 4 or less. Or something along those lines.

ember nova
edgy beacon
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Fair

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I get you

edgy beacon
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it's also be like deal 5 damage to the enemy unit if it's destroy than add a glide bombing to your hand?

maiden parcel
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Hear me out: make it 6k 3op 5/7 Fury

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It will fix most of its problems

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Compare Junkers to other 7k units. It's not at the same power level. Compare it to 6k unit. Now it's not so different in terms of stats and effects (I'm counting fury as an effect)

ember nova
# maiden parcel Hear me out: make it 6k 3op 5/7 Fury

It seems like a bit of an overkill in terms of stats/cost. But it would probably help the card a bit, except that as I mentioned, most bombers either have Blitz or have to do something in the turn they play to make sense. Or would the gigantic stats simply allow him to play? On the one hand, there is a chance for it, on the other, practice has rather proven that it is not ;/

maiden parcel
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Because you are right. All these +7k come into the battlefield changing the battlefield dynamic

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A 6k unit doesn't do that. Rather, they usually just set up a more powerful next round

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So, since Junkers can't compete with other+7k units due to its (lack of) impact on the board, let us bring it to the 6k category with buffed to stats so it delivers on its promise

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Same is true for Liberator btw. I think we can lower its cost to 6k and keep everything else with no loss of generality here

neat jasper
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it could have smokescreen

maiden parcel
neat jasper
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only with japan tbh

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and it'll be more insteresting than just "jaggro, jaggro with extra steps, jaggro-gro, etc."

maiden parcel
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Next turn you bolster for the strongest bomber in the game

ember nova
maiden parcel
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Yes, but now the combo is one elite, one special and one limited, instead of one special and one limited

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Smokescreen would make Junkers nigh unkillable

ember nova
# maiden parcel Smokescreen would make Junkers nigh unkillable

E you're exaggerating, it's true, it would be much more powerful than it currently is, but ever since Supression was added to the game, units that have a "temporary" passive effect that requires them to survive on the board for at least one turn have become terribly off-meta.

So yes, giving him Smoke Screen is a buff, but would it make the overall point of playing the card? I honestly doubt it, because if your opponent has Suppression (and in the current meta, you can honestly find at least 2 in every deck), you have a huge loss of tempo, because bombers have the problem that your opponent trades them for free, so most of them with a cost of 4+ and no effect on the table, simply don't play.

Even a Privateer like this, which in theory has no impact on the table but is very difficult to trade sensibly, is currently not super strong, although it is quite irritating for the opponent.

edgy beacon
ember nova
edgy beacon
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Yea