#Nerf/Rework of Outrage and YANK

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sterile cosmos
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I honestly don't think I have ever had a problem with those cards

sharp fossil
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This has been nerfed enough, the real problem with ramp atm is first responders and glamour

sweet radish
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you can always make the argument that these cards generate incredible value, but games hardly ever last long enough for it to be realized

whole brook
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I think retribution has been nerfed enough for now. It’s frustrating when you see it, but I don’t see it often

bronze zealot
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And self kredit was hit to hard

whole brook
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I wasn’t playing yet when SKD got nuked

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I don’t really like retribution, so I’m fine seeing it in shambles right now. I’d like to see it gone when it can be rotated, but I think other things need more attention at the moment

bronze zealot
bitter rune
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hope I never saw those cards again in a any normal game

bronze zealot
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I can show you them ^^

bitter rune
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nope

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XD

verbal tulip
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Agree, it is simply a silly concept as a whole

finite verge
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Retaliation's choose out of 3 cards is fine.

Yank is a card i have rarely seen any use for.

Blue and grey is good at generating tons of retribution.

By the time you play yank the retribution guy already won.

If the yank were to give you a retribution in hand for each retribution played I would have considered it.

At least you gave a suggestion

fallow narwhal
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I'd argue just removing the 12k retri is the only nerf worth considering, and only in draft
as that can just completely 180 a draft game due to the +3/+3 to all friendly units, and draw on top of that - with the extra kredit slots allowing you to use everything you just gained the last turn

sharp fossil
bitter rune
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or it should be straight up erased

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its a multipliying order for more orders.

sharp fossil
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It's already too expensive

bitter rune
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2 credits for a good amount of order and countermeasures is quite cheap if you ask me

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considering it is from the nation that can bloat its economy to the skies

sharp fossil
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But it's been nerfed so many times

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I used to play it it just became too slow

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Then again
Nothing is too slow for ramp seeing as all they do is delay delay delay with first responders and glamour

light crow
light crow
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Don't think just about the nerf, think about what could sub it in a healthy way

raven hollow
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I think it’s important to view in context. Ret is a little stronger and more appealing atm not because it’s actually good (the nerfs were real) but because there is so much stall available.

Possibly unpopular opinion but let’s fix the leak not worry about mopping the water.

light crow
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There's multiple valid strategies that involve stalling. The problem with retribution is you can get infinite value, and I find that extremely problematic. Outrage need not cost 2k if the pool of retribution cards did not have an option to develop even more retributions.

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Also, my best retribution deck is super aggressive early on. It uses Retribution as a late game finisher, but early game I'm trading cards like crazy to keep the opponent from taking the Frontline

verbal tulip
tall cobalt
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This has already been shit on, dragged through a ditch and then shot 14 times in the head with an AK-47 in the middle of a desert

bitter rune
tall cobalt
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And y'know what happened next?

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They bombed it and shot it in the head another 14 times

bronze zealot
tall cobalt
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Then survived Hiroshima and nakasaki

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Then got cancer and is barely hanging on

bronze zealot
tall cobalt
bronze zealot
tall cobalt
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Then got bit by a Costa Rican mosquito and died

bitter rune