Nerf the german 88

[silk kelp]

Ambush is once per turn.
The general solution to dealing with big units is to either run removal cards that can kill them, or to play a deck that can win before the opponent can play them.

This card is not particularly good at high level, although it has seen a little play.

[gentle rampart]

Its impossible to attack if you don't have any cards in the frontline, and if that card is below 4 health, it dies and does no damage, only way to destroy is for them to do smth stupid or get lucky with an rng random destroy card

[silk kelp]

Note that cards that kill 88 mm Flak are generally cheaper than the unit is, such as The Hammer and Tactical Strike.

Run cards like that

if you spend 3k killing a 6k unit you're winning

[gentle rampart]

lemme paint a picture here, the enemy has a flak 88 and another supporting card that does... lets say 3+ damage, you move into frontline with smth, and ur turn ends, the supporting card attacks you and damages your card, unless you have a tank with beefy health, and the 88 follows up the shot with 6 damage, destroying your card, if the 88 instead attacks something else, you still don't have enough health to destroy the 88, you have to either get a destroy card that has a random chance to destroy the 88, or you have to have a completely incompetent player who doesnt know how to use the card well.

[upbeat willow]

The 88 is reasonable. Ambush is quite powerful, but it is still vulnerable to orders

[grand coral]

!88

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 5

[grand coral]

expensive lmao

if it had blitz i can see it being ok (but still bad)

[wet notch]

If ur gameplan is as in the picture painted, i.e. u aim to win late game by pushing small units to the frontline 1 by 1 to chill and hope for the best, we have issues other than 88 flak.

[grand coral]

speaking of german arties

!h39

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 1

[grand coral]

[placid gate]

Honestly I’ve had my eyes on adding this to the swaggie deck

[gentle rampart]

No thats not what I do, I get lots of credits and use alot of one time use cards such as the kings glory thing, the one american eagle bomb thing, and aircraft to support the high defence stuff up front

[gentle rampart]

See I place those and they get immediately destroyed by the 88, like you don't understand, a competent player CANNOT lose unless RNG or bad timing with the 88

[wet notch]

If that's not what u do, then the painted picture is not a problem u face unless things r already going horribly and would be going horribly without the presence of the 88 flak. So it's pretty irrelevant.

[grand coral]

i feel likw with the type of decks i play i rarely run into issues with these heavy no blitz units lol

i wonder why

[wet notch]

Bc it comes down late, does nothing when it does and it's not a wincon nor a guard.

[grand coral]

only real issue is stuff like panther g

[wet notch]

Basically, u need the luxury of time to spend 6k on something that doesn't help u immediately. Nor to pressure, nor to survive just to have something easily removable on board which if survives can trade 2 unit types well.

[wanton pewter]

When I started playing 88 was pretty strong between ranks 20-15. But if you keep improving your deck and understanding of the game you'll be fine.

[worn oracle]

!hammer

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 3

[worn oracle]

🤷‍♂️

[orchid quest]

!88

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 5

[worn oracle]

its the 88 flak

[orchid quest]

Was confused for a sec, thought he meant ju

That’s a new one, I’ve never seen someone complain about 88 flak, if anything I think it would be cool if it were buffed to deal retaliation dmg vs bombers, although would prolly still be a garbage card

[orchid quest]

Bro I mean this in the nicest way but a competent player would not be playing this card in the first place. If you’re playing a aggro deck you would ignore this card and kill your opponent if they play this. If you’re playing a midrange deck you have to have fallen abysmally behind for this card to be a problem. Control decks have removal to deal with this and tbh prolly enough board presence to contest it without removal just because of how low impact this card is

[static flume]

Is bro high? (No offense)

The artillery isn't even a problem

[hot latch]

I recommend checking out the main kards community contributors on twitch and yt or the monthly OCCs, they’ll tell you a lot about how to play and what decks are good

[zinc apex]

Ideally you use a weaker unit first to cooldown its ambush

But only if you have multiple units on board

[static flume]

That or use Arty or bombers

[zinc apex]

How does that get around the ambush on the 88 who do double attack against air units?

[rustic iris]

Why would you deploy such a valuable and vulnerable unit when your opponent can just destroy it with an arty

[static flume]

Bombers can't receive any damage except when they attack fighters

[dry phoenix]

Flak only deals double to air and tanks btw, not inf

so any inf with higher than 3 health can attack into it without any issues

and that's a lot of infantry

[elder plinth]

Flak is just a removal check

People dont run it in higher ranks beacuse you can destroy it instantly with pretty much no effort

And also pak 40 is just better

If your opponent pays 6k for a flak and you destroy it with honorable death

Thats a huge tempo loss for them

Soviets have hammer, US has firebomb, japan has honorable and commit the reserves, brits have like infinite pin and they usually just bomb the shit out of flak and germany has tact strike

[hot latch]

not to mention any aggro deck would burn the hq down long before 88 even does anything

[elder plinth]

Yeah

[dark kindle]

The Flak 88 isn’t that good to have a nerf, it actually isn’t that good

[karmic cloud]

why would you slam 8 unit on it ?

[vestal grail]

Bro has never heard of removal or pin before

[polar osprey]

I think the mistake was to trade 8 units over multiple turns, instead of at once. Ambush only works once per turn

[dark kindle]

Yeah, that’s sorta strange

This mostly seems like a skill issue

[lean orchid]

yeah, flak 88 ain’t good

[gentle rampart]

Might be cause I can't get close and it drains my deck??

[rustic iris]

my question stands, why did you deploy it instead of blitz units or big units so you can take it down.

[dry phoenix]

eh, im sure theres enough advice i hope by now

!tactical strike

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 1

[dry phoenix]

!hammer

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 3

[elder plinth]

!firebomb

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 1

[elder plinth]

!honorable death

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 1

[elder plinth]

!commit the reserves

[lyric oracle]

Cards found: 1

[silk kelp]

Amphibious Assault, La Decima etc