Dear 1939 developers

[proud bluff]

This card goes into decks with a heavy board presence that wins through continued pressure through units on the board - 5 enemy hq defense will not be a big downside in these decks

[tulip monolith]

So you play all your russian decks with 40 russian cards?

[celest forum]

No, but it just turns out that the Soviets will not be able to do anything without allies, whereas other factions can be safely done without a combination with others

[proud bluff]

That's not true

There has not been an actually good mono nation deck in however long I remember

[celest forum]

Hmm

[celest forum]

Let's test it with British or US deck, what you think about?

[proud bluff]

And soviets still have many of the best elites in the game, I'd go as far as saying if you only compared mono nation deck possibilities they'd be up there with the better ones

[proud bluff]

I can't at the moment but it'd be fun to try yeah

[celest forum]

I don't make mononation decks myself, I like to experiment with alliances

[chilly shadow]

mono britan lmao

[tulip monolith]

so does 100% of the player base mate

[celest forum]

Alright, when would it be more comfortable for you?

[celest forum]

I just thinking about one deck, but I try to found right way for bould

[proud bluff]

Still working until at least 3-4 hours from now but I'll just write in here later

[celest forum]

Write me in private message, if it will be fine for you, will it be good idea?

[celest forum]

Armia Ludowa
Major power: Soviet
Ally: Poland
HQ: STALINGRAD

Soviet:
4x (1K) BLOODY SICKLE
3x (1K) RED DAWN
2x (2K) 845th RIFLES
2x (2K) COUNTER OFFENSIVE
3x (2K) KATYUSHA
4x (2K) SPECIAL REINFORCEMENTS
3x (3K) PROMOTION
1x (4K) IL-2M PL
2x (4K) MASS ATTACK
3x (4K) SU 152
1x (5K) FIVE YEAR PLAN
2x (6K) KV-1 1939
1x (6K) KV-1 1941

Poland:
1x (2K) 7TP
3x (2K) FIRST TO FIGHT
3x (3K) PLAN WEST
1x (3K) PZL.23 KARAS

IMPORT CODE:
%%48|9biSiJiHiA;9a8U7M7Q;9litiOis99iQ;o47H

Main idea of this deck is spam with legions, and strike enemy with mass attack

[agile chasm]

Soviets hasn't seen non-token competitive play I think that says about enough

Self damage is so bad now

also I don't understand why the devs are pushing Countermeasures in the same direction as Self-Damage, when SD has been trash for so long

Play anything, it gets monsoon ss

[proud bluff]

Sorry for repeating myself with this but soviets had a bunch of ladder viable decks, 3 if you're conservative about it

Ladder viable meaning playable into top 34 without being a Genius

How many more do they need

Soviet Push was also always tournament viable, but having more than 1 occ viable deck isn't something most nations had or need to have right

[agile chasm]

You could play basically anything into top34 provided that you play on the 1st at every month and get to fm

Though

Does anyone do top 34 runs with Soviet main push?

I'd love a few videos of that to study how the deck works

[proud bluff]

No i mean season end top 34, and you can play a lot of decks into there but as i said "without being a genius"

[proud bluff]

I played sov tony otk, sov jpn aggro and later on mainly sov brit push for it last season

you just play guards, draw and win

[agile chasm]

Vid or it didn't happen

[daring bay]

What British or us deck doesn't make use of an ally

[celest forum]

I just have a theory, which needs to test, which nation is more independent

[daring bay]

why

like what's the theory and there's a lot to control for

[silent willow]

But I think we can agree that Soviet is kinda WEAKER than US, Germany or Britain as main nation? Having a viable Soviet build isn't the issue. I think the point is the Potential of Soviet is less than other nation

For Soviet so far I only have seen self damage and push OTK

But US or Germany have much more styles to play.

[wet fiber]

If this was an elite I would agree, but I think this card is fine as is. The focus of the card is to cement your board presence so you can deal with the hq later.

There are ways to deal with the healing like Japan anti heal tech, great patriotic war, big Soviet units ect. Although maybe 5 health is too much

[silent willow]

For other nations you can go arggo, or ramp, or bombers; for german arggo alone you have German&Brit/German&finland tank. Front line deck also have amazing variables like US main or German main. For Soviet really you only play two or three sterotype designed by 1939

Plus the new Soviet cards? Man we can call Soviet S**tviet from now on.

Remember the dark meme "Anything But China"? I think we can also have "Anything But Soviet" from now on.

[agile chasm]

You could play Soviet USA anti veteran

They got the best anti veteran card in the game

[silent willow]

man you serious? Veteran major deck never exists, and now you talk about anti veteran. Veterans are only useful gadgets in main stream deck. no deck ever [points at counter veteran.

But there are soviet decks points at countering arggo decks -- it depends on ladder environment. If jap arggo went really popular tons of soviet guard and sickle do counter them nicely. But really? A nation whose value depends on countering other archetypes? it's just pathetic.

[celest forum]

That what I am talking about, Soviets are WEAKEST faction among others, I don't want to say, that this faction must be strongest, of course not, but balance is balance, it means that every faction in game must have +/- equal chances just in different ways and tactics

[undone flame]

Incorrect @cyan dagger ran an absolutely phenomenal Soviet air deck in comp last season

[celest forum]

It would be better if the side were given more opportunities for combination and operational space, otherwise it turns out that the choice is not great, or the tokens that fucked everyone up, or the OTK "Push!", or aggro, that's all, I only can remember that deck "You shall not pass" of course interesting combination of Soviet and Italy, but, is this deck valuable as others, that a question

[daring bay]

It does not mean that at all

Balance meaning equal chances is just not gonna happen I mean that's never really been the case and never will, that's not to say it shouldn't be sought after but like

First off we don't even have the update yet and ur saying it's the weakest nation

[vagrant geyser]

Yeah would advise waiting before jugding what the soviets have as weak

there are quite a few directions that look to branch out into

and stuff like respite is very strong on it's own

[proven swallow]

It’s interesting to me because I think Soviets have some of the most powerful cards in this release

[celest forum]

You are about tokens?

[celest forum]

I think covert mechanic is a dead already, because of new German countermeasures

[celest forum]

For example, just look at this, I have an idea, how to counter it, but...

I don't know it will be more expensive to counter it, I think, to deploy BT-7 or marines which gets double damage during fight, countermeasure will be activated, meanwhile it will not give so much disgusting effects

[daring bay]

wild

[celest forum]

What you mean?

[tough hinge]

That's the worst take ever lol

[daring lava]

it would be funny if the CM meta happen

but like

funny for a few day

then it will be hell

[wet fiber]

This is easy to counter, just play a unit that you don't care about getting suppressed. This will still trigger, then play any other unit

[undone flame]

or

!imperial strengh

[near saddle]

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[undone flame]

!imperial