All cards from the theoretical Heinkel update

[cinder path]

Will continue to make more heinkel cards!

[fair moth]

i

actually like he 177

thats a reallllyyy good take on not just being flat immune to stuff

it reminds me a lot of mtgs new ward mechanic

or well, it and red devils does

[nova zealot]

H-16 with funny Fritz-X 🙏

[boreal summit]

so is this the new Aichi archetype for Germany?

[astral lagoon]

he 177 OTK

[meager scarab]

Bomben need more expensive

[carmine nimbus]

The first card combined with elite panther you already win the battle.

[gritty mason]

can’t you just target he 177 with your own orders? So 3 sickles, through the breach, support column etc deals 21 damage to hq

[fair moth]

yeah but that's expensive and requires it sticking around

if a worry, increase its base cost or just change to enemy etc

on second thought yeah make it more expensive or change to enemy

[astral lagoon]

just made it to enemy orders and units

I mean even then its kind of a guaranteed cheaper bismarck

[fair moth]

good, Bismarck sucks

it is bad and should feel bad

[cinder path]

Germany was such an air powerhouse during ww2 and its simply just not reflected in the game. I’m done with the heinkels, now I’m moving onto more variants of BF 109 and other niche German aircraft. The main point of the update, though, is to have a German air strategy based around all of the current Heinkel kards.

[cinder path]

That could be a strategy. Definitely need suggestions to balance heinkel HE177 tho.

[gritty mason]

I like the concept, maybe just make it enemy orders tho

[cinder path]

Thats what i was thinking. Maybe making it 12 K would make it harder to do this.

[cinder path]

Thinking about changing it to being seven damage to a random enemy instead of HQ

[gritty mason]

love the random enemy idea actually

imagine slinging a bunch of sickles at your own bomber

and the enemy just fucking dies

[cinder path]

Im gonna make it 10 k and random enemies

[cinder path]

Maybe I should make it “ when this is targeted by an order with cost of 2 or more, deal seven damage to a random enemy”

[astral lagoon]

making it random enemies would be good enough

[regal pier]

could we as a community stop making german stuff that was shit irl into epic in-game cards

he 177 suffered from severe overheating problems, it should have a 50% chance of killing itself each turn

air raid is busted

[astral lagoon]

thats like 90% of German vehicles

[regal pier]

lmao

but the 177 was notoriously prone

ooh when are we getting units with buffs against specific nations

like the 177 maybe having "+2 attack against soviet cards" as it was intended for bombing over the urals

[cinder path]

Well wtf else am i supposed to make into that card. The king tiger is a 10-10 regardless of being crap irl

[cinder path]

All its doing is giving your heinkel cards +1+1 and discarding a card. I feel like it’s the exact value that it should be, also it’s completely useless if you’re not playing a Heinkel deck.

[regal pier]

for example, something that is a substantial risk but has high reward

for such a fragile thing it should not have 8 defence

[regal pier]

I wouldn't say it's useless outside of a heinkel deck

it's a discard card, people will use it just for thag

*that

[cinder path]

It’s just like a disadvantaged u 375

I wouldn’t really see an issue with it because for discard decks, people would just be paying an extra K for nothing

Additionally, ever since a lot of the discard cards, removed the reserve pool it’s not really as potent as it used to be

[fickle arch]

I hope not, I feel like those cards would be way to niche just imagine putting those cards in and then running into other nations in which you card is now just a vanilla card. That or being on the receiving end, doesn’t sound fun

[regal pier]

what do you mean?

is it any different from, for example, running 37mm aa hun and running into an enemy that doesn't play air units?

[astral lagoon]

!37mm anti

[carmine willow]

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[astral lagoon]

it is very different

air units are a unit type

nations are nations

[regal pier]

not too different

you will inevitably fight against decks that either do or do not make frequent use of certain unit types

same as nations

!37mm automatic

[carmine willow]

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[regal pier]

bruh

!1k arty sov

[carmine willow]

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[astral lagoon]

certain unit types vs certain nations is very important

there are many nations

comparatively there aren't many unit types

nation type is very much outside of the control of the player

[regal pier]

uhhhh
5 main + 4 ally, right?

[astral lagoon]

yep

[regal pier]

yeah so is unit type

who are you to decide what unit types the enemy heavily runs

[astral lagoon]

it will vary significantly more

[regal pier]

I don't see it as difficult to balance

[astral lagoon]

it probably just wouldn't come to play that often

the 37 mm sees play not really because of its ability

its because its a 1k artillery with smokescreen for the soviets

when it comes into play its good

but it needs to be good on its own