Basically would make it matched version but nothing happens if you win / lose. New players literally getting destroyed by elitè meta P2W players is just plain horrible
#Friendly rework
sweet blaze
coral jolt
Like Casual?
sweet blaze
yes
coral jolt
But what's the difference exactly?
coral jolt
It's alright, it's alright...
sweet blaze
wait so uhh
snow anchor
I don't get what this is about. The point of a friendly is to play against a particular guy. (The ingame rewards for it r marginal, but nice to have something.)
snow anchor
There is some, but in casual, u see the small playerbase come up, so u and ur opponent might be a bit far away.
sweet blaze
ye
im just going to close this in some mins as seeing this thread is a waste of time
snow anchor
If u were to remove the reward, then I assume the players would play that gamemode even less, making this more of a problem if u can get a match at all.
sweet blaze
If u were to remove the reward, then I assume the players would play that gamemo...
im not suggesting the removal of reward
im meaning to add some matchmaking
snow anchor
I assume that'd be more like what classic mode it is like rn: easily 10 mins of waiting time.
snow anchor
im not suggesting the removal of reward
Then what was that "nothing happen if u win/lose"?
sweet blaze
there's no ranks
coral jolt
Ranked matchmaking is based on rank, Casual matchmaking is random. What could be the criteria for Casual to use?
weary bloom
I'm assuming your hidden elo is take in account in casual
sweet blaze
elo?
weary bloom
you have two score
snow anchor
Yeah. I'm pretty sure casual uses the old matchmaking system which is based on ur MMR
snow anchor
He is new.
sweet blaze
im actually not im just dumb asf
sweet blaze
ok
snow anchor
But everyone has a similar, continous hidden score that helps in with matchmaking. The issue is, that bc of the amount of players playing casual isn't that high, u have to pair guys quite far away from eachother for a reasonable matchmaking time.
snow anchor
there's no ranks
There r no ranks in casual.
sweet blaze
But everyone has a similar, continous hidden score that helps in with matchmakin...
true
snow anchor
The whole point of casual is that other then the win/loss notification and difference in exp gain, the result doesn't matter (game mechanically).
coral jolt
In that case I don't believe hidden elo is used at all in ranked. I got matched to play against guys in the top 30 leaderboard without having to wait any significant amount of time in matchmaking
weary bloom
maybe they were the one waiting a signficiant amount of time
and it's used to determine how much each side win or loose
snow anchor
I quite frequently play other top players. So in large, it seems to work.
(The backside to that is that depending who is online, I might get the same guy back within 40-50 mins. That can happen around the edges...)
high void
"hurr durr, those pesky elite P2W players are lurking in casuals waiting for all those innocent new F2P players to crush them without any mercy" - What a ridiculous statement is that? :D. Makes absolutely no sense.
coral jolt
"hurr durr, those pesky elite P2W players are lurking in casuals waiting for all...
That's not what he said. He means that P2W players are prolific and that F2P are at a disadvantage in a matchmaking that has almost no discrimination.
high void
That's not what he said. He means that P2W players are prolific and that F2P are...
- There is no P2W in this game as far as I know. For money you get fancy cosmetics at most. You can't buy yourself experience in the game. Even if you have bought a bunch of packs for money it still won't get you a knowledge about the game other way than just playing it. 2. If you wan't to play against your elo only you play ranked.
coral jolt
1. There is no P2W in this game as far as I know. For money you get fancy cosmet...
Why you're arguing with me? OP is the one who affirmed this.
high void
I am not arguing with anyone. It's my point of view in general. Sorry, I shouldn't reply for your message. It's overall about the topic.
snow anchor
Yeah, the P2W comment of op was off as well, but I just ended up arguing about other points that seemed more important in this context.
Btw, there r a couple of top players that I know that r F2P. Myself included. But know, with the occasional diamond wins we r a bit swagged up now.
(And in the beginning of this summer I got 2 gift bundles from a friend, which gave me 2 sweet paywalled cardbacks.)
But u know, hitting fm f2p first month with not even insane hours is a thing people have done (and... myself included again. This is starting to get a bit too braggy :/ ). And generally, fm is a really achievable goal. Now starting to compete did take a few month to the f2p players I remember, but being at the top requires an amount of skill that generally requires some time (even just to be in the ballpark).
The point is, if u set an ingame (not cosmetic) goal for urself, not paying for it isn't the thing that gonna stop u. Not playing for it could. Yeah, sure, there r some things u can speed up with ur wallet, but some things will take serious effort either way. (And there r some things u just have to grind out like a minimum amount of 300ish monthly matches to have a shot at the top etc.)
tall iris
i agree with the frustration though
although its legitamately possible to do so, the game doesnt discriminate by collection completion
lets say we have person A and person B
A is ftp, slowly ginding out a collection and higher ranks
B is p2progress, having a mostly full collection immediately
They have the same win rate, as A has to sweat more with the stuff he has while B has less raw skill but isnt held back by lack of kards
fighting B as A is going to be super frustrating, even if you win 50% of the time
because you know in your soul that you would be beating their ass if you had access to the cards they do
its like a bossfight, but against another player