#first time singing really - is there any hope for me?

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grand jackal
grand jackal
merry otter
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there's a lot of breathiness and kind of masking of the sound throughout the piece that i frankly would either get rid of or at least tone down

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that's my 2 cents

cinder lotus
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and yet if it was in a game cutscene 😆 ...Rockstar Games would love that for Red Dead Redemption 3. Nice job.

haughty wren
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i actually think the breathiness in hes singing fits really well. as long as this way of singing is managable enough to make it comfortable then its completely fine 🙂

merry otter
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There's ways to gain a soft tonality without exhalation throughout a song tho

haughty wren
merry otter
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Yes there is

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If you do it excessively or without proper inhalation initially you're gonna be gasping for air every 5 seconds

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Because you're releasing it all instead of utilizing it for phonation

haughty wren
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now read my message again "as long as this way of singing is manageable enough to make it comfortable"

merry otter
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He was gasping for air repeatedly throughout which is indicative of it not being manageable

haughty wren
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we can't just assume that it would be like that for all songs tho

merry otter
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It would if he does the same thing for every song

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It's more so a breathing pattern problem than a song problem

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So it would carry on

haughty wren
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i disagree, i think theres a lot of factors to this.

merry otter
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Really, exhalation is just not a very good thing to default to for acquiring soft tones.

haughty wren
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but then again if its not comfortable in ANY song then my advice still stands

merry otter
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Yeah but my point is to explore soft tonalities utilizing diaphragmic support instead of exhalation.

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It allows for more consistency in phrasing and no need to gasp for air constantly.

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Breathiness can be used but it should be kept to a very minimal presence.

haughty wren
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lets not do this in here lmao. if you disagree with me shoot me a dm and ill explain it in more detail

merry otter
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Brother it's just a normal musical discussion.

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But you're trying to argue for breathiness when a more consistent alternative exists and I'm saying you can use breathiness but keep it minimal.

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It's only logical. Every singer that uses breathy tones keeps it very minimal.

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It's used more as an emphasis tool than something used throughout a song.

haughty wren
merry otter
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This is the type of stuff people need to see though. People believe Billie Eilish sounds all pretty like that naturally when likely it's not the case. There's also the element of heavily produced sound, mixing, audio engineering, mic quality, etc. Etc. Etc.

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Her breath inflections are cut out and these things are recorded over many takes usually.

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And so people develop wrong ideas.