keen rune
Mods I'm working on:
Version 3.0 of Dra'Vashai companion 🐱 - Vvardenfell quest commentaries and level up. Latest release build: #1504579540427477122 message
Sason and Malexa's Home 🏡 - they get a guar ranch in West Gash, move there after the vanilla quest, and get to speak with you on Redoran faction quest topics.
Healer of Seyda Neen 🌟 - visit sick citizens, diagnose their conditions, and provide healing. Status: frozen until I learn how to script magic cast detection on NPC.
keen rune
Hehe
Thanks fro encouraging me to start it. I'll do it to get more social and motivated to finish my mods.
rain silo
would be fun if you added some encounters in tombs/ruins with heavily wounded or sick NPCs. The player could decide how to handle the situation.
keen rune
Good idea. Maybe dungeons around the town I intend to place my healing quests at.
rain silo
it adds more RP opportunities as e.g. some players could decide that somebody robbing a tomb deserves to die, while other ones would show compassion
keen rune
Progress from today/yesterday:
rain silo
and if you ever encountered the NPCs later on, that would be great as well
keen rune
See, I want to keep dungeons untouched to allow compatibility with dungeon overhauls.
On the other hand, I can make wounded people outside dungeons in the wild. I can also do it as part of an overhaul (Addamasartus)
rain silo
they could be outside or they could be right after you enter the dungeon since I assume this part usually remains unchanged
keen rune
so far, my idea is to keep this mod about urban healing. But some overlap with wilderness could be as well.
I have divided the healing quests to 5 tiers. Every tier is opened when you reach certain character level. Every tier allows you to find 3 or more people to cure in a town.
It'll keep the quests from being overwhelming in number. But will provide continuity - you are expected to return to the town as you advance in levels (up to level 10), to see more Healer content.
If God gives me focus and energy to implement these dozens of quests for Seyda Neen, I may do Pelagiad Healer as Chapter 2 - will be a separate mod.
rain silo
so far, my idea is to keep this mod about urban healing. But some overlap with w...
yeah, I think it's best to pace the content so it's not sth you can just speedrun. It shouldn't feel as if you are "done" with the town.
keen rune
Right. I just need to figure out how to telegraph it aside from directly saying it on the mod page
rain silo
If God gives me focus and energy to implement these dozens of quests for Seyda N...
why the insistence on this settlement divide btw? Is it about compatibility? SN and Pelagiad are not far away. You could include them in the same package, i.e. it would make sense.
keen rune
too much
rain silo
Right. I just need to figure out how to telegraph it aside from directly saying ...
latest rumors? Little advice/secret?
keen rune
I already feel like it's the biggest thing ever
rain silo
also, some of those quests could require you to go back to the town after X days
keen rune
latest rumors? Little advice/secret?
might be, yes. But how to tell the player "come back when you're level 5. We'll have 3 mote people sick by then"
rain silo
you don't tell it that way
but when those quests become available. you allow them to happen as part of rumours or sth
when it makes sense
keen rune
also, some of those quests could require you to go back to the town after X days
I've been having a hard time with timers in the Addamasartus mod. I prefer exploring some other way to tie story progression to
keen rune
but when those quests become available. you allow them to happen as part of rumo...
yeah, I certainly shouldn't use latest rumors
should*
lol
rain silo
I've been having a hard time with timers in the Addamasartus mod. I prefer explo...
you could create an internal quest count tracker
quest X becomes available after Z is reached
etc.
then you work on pacing
keen rune
that's the plan. I have a nascent form of it already. Just gotta finish the first 3 guys before I start making level 3 quests
Also, as an aside: I broke my final version of Addamasartus418.
Shelving it for now. Until I find energy to fix the scripts
Here's the last non-broken version of it for safe keeping. Anyone is welcome to playtest and share feedback. There are 8 quests in this overhaul. But only 4 of them are true quests
rain silo
yeah, I certainly shouldn't use latest rumors
It could work like this:
keen rune
Good idea. I can add rumors to Pelagiad, Hla Oad and Vivec (not too far?) about particularly sick people in Seyda Neen when the next tier is unlocked
rain silo
Vivec is sketchy because of its size in this case, so maybe just Foreign Quarter. You can reach it via silt strider, so fine.
keen rune
Right
rain silo
it's sth that a person in Vivec would plausibly hear about
and for quests which maybe are intended to be a bit more "hidden", you can restrict the info to some classes like Apothecary and Healer (note: there are "Service" variants as well). It would fit when you already have some reputation for healing. I heard of your good work on X bla bla bla, so here is something that bla bla bla.
pretty sure that with some brainstorming nobody will really need Nexus info stuff (which can be hidden under spoilers)
cool mod idea btw
keen rune
thanks
gotta to to bed. Good bye
astral acorn
That's the same version I've tested, right?
jovial summit
Healer of Seyda Neen sounds 🔥
keen rune
That's the same version I've tested, right?
yep
The book (just so the player has a reference to all the possible disease)
Ganciele illness dialogue
Teruise success
keen rune
implemented Ganciele's cure via a potion path. Had to account for all 5 types of the potion but it's working. Now, the spell path
All writing suggestions and corrections are welcome
rain silo
implemented Ganciele's cure via a potion path. Had to account for all 5 types of...
what potion are you using here? Disease Resistance?
keen rune
Restore Strength
keen rune
I got stuck on this. Can't seem to find the command to damage an NPC's attribute so the player can restore it with a potion or a spell (or a potion thrown into their face as per Potion Throwing)
keen rune
Bal Foyen house mod is the one I'm particularly proud of because of the renting feature. I wouldn't be able to script it on my own. One day, I'd like to add it to all the other house mods
keen rune
-# Nexus link
Finally 🌟
Start by speaking to Eldafire about little advice. Wait 4 days after any quest start and something new might happen. Return to Addamasartus 2 times after the initial encounter and find new content inside 🗡️
Go out your way in exploring this mod and you will be rewarded 🔖
royal trench
Such a good idea. That sort of thing keeps the world feeling alove
rain silo
Interesting!
keen rune
I was chipping away at this update for more than a year
probably, my biggest project so far
if you find any bugs, shoot them
I mean, tell me
keen rune
Doing something else
I shelved the Seyda Neen Healer mod for a time until I learn to apply restore attribute to an NPC
meanwhile, I got inspiration to expand Dra'Vashai
the idea is, he improves skills via contextual commentary to quests
thanks to Hemaris and the mod author of Fons companion for scripting help
The same mod, but you can make Dra'Vashai your apprentice instead of taking him to OE.
here's a working prototype. He has comments to all Seyda Neen quests (including Tarhiel), and A Man and His Guar quest north of Vivec. He'll grow skills depending on your answers. Once you discuss all 5 quests with him, he will level up and ask for your advice on which attributes to improve
The MVP plan is to cover the guild of mages and at least half of the main quest. Some other misc quests too
Any suggestions or corrections are welcome
rain silo
Interesting idea. I wonder how much quest support you intend to provide.
keen rune
Interesting idea. I wonder how much quest support you intend to provide.
not all quests but I want to make a significant chunk at least. Main Quest, Guilds of Fighters and Mages, maybe half of the Misc quests
eventually, I want to start doing the mainland quest reactions starting with Old Ebonheart
Every new update will need a rethink of how much skill points he gains per quest when the number of quests will expand
keen rune
wow, West Gash is the most Misc quest-dense area on Vvardenfell after Vivec
rain silo
wow, West Gash is the most Misc quest-dense area on Vvardenfell after Vivec
Makes sense, considering it's an area where the player often spends a lot of time.
As for Vivec, it actually has areas which severely lack content. St. Olms and St. Delyn cantons with no quest mods are very underdeveloped in particular.
devout veldt
probably has the most misc content because it was developed early
keen rune
probably. Also, most Vivec quests to me belong in the category of secret quests, lol. They're hard to find
the invisible man quest for example
rain silo
I wouldn't call it hard
if you visit the area of the quest giver at least once, you will probably stumble upon it because of forced greeting
keen rune
may be. I don't find myself in Vivec often. But I'll involve its quests in the mod
devout veldt
vivec is my least fav area tbh
keen rune
implemented another quest on your way to Balmora.
forgot a period in the end of the bracketed text
keen rune
Level up dialogue
Belluelle's Silver Bowl quest
when you kill Nels Llendo
Today's progress - 8 quests in total are done:
coral coral
wow, West Gash is the most Misc quest-dense area on Vvardenfell after Vivec
usually when I do a playthrough of morrowind I'll start in Balmora, grab all the quests there, and stop when they start leading into Vivec(which many of them will), and save Vivec for last because vanilla-wise, a big chunk of your playthrough will be in Vivec
keen rune
thanks for your feedback. Yeah, Seyda Neen -> Ascadian Isles -> Balmora -> Vivec should probably be the plan
rain silo
thanks for your feedback. Yeah, Seyda Neen -> Ascadian Isles -> Balmora -> Vivec...
I would suggest avoiding assumptions about the order, though. Not sure if you will be using it for anything, but it's best to just do it on a quest-by-quest basis, I think. Independently.
keen rune
yeah, it's just my roadmap. As I won't be able to do every quest for the first update. In fact, I think I'll skip many of them - Dra'Vashai will only be interested in miscs, the main quest and the guilds of Fighters and the Mages. Keeps it simple and will allow me to get ready for mainland sooner
keen rune
I feel like the og devs broke their rule of keeping quests simple with this one
The Scholars and the Mating Kagouti
rain silo
Index 110 
keen rune
Player character while journaling every minute of his attempts to lead a guy around two mating kagouti:
somehow, forgot to write that Thoronor gives you a book if Edras dies
keen rune
**Today's progress - 8 quests in total are done:**
- Implemented commentaries wi...
fixed bugs
keen rune
More Pelagiad progress done
So far, he and Ahnassi will dislike each other. Her questline is too long to be implemented in the first release. Besides, it's practically a TG questline, and I don't intend to do TG commentary other than few general ones.
Dra'Vashai ends up being Lawful Good despite being a Khajiit.
He also has an understandable dislike of Dark Elves and, not so understandable, of Wood Elves. The latter has to do with the 5 Years War and how his family suffered from it. His father is a veteran, crippled by Bosmer poison and his own addiction to narcotics and alcohol.
But I'm afraid that initially Dra'Vashai will look too negative in his quest comments because most quests you encounter in Bitter Coast and Ascadian Isles have to do with Bosmer and Dunmer
Let me know what y'all think
rain silo
IMO it's good when NPCs like this have their own views, so all good.
Yes-man companions aren't exactly the most interesting.
keen rune
progress from the last day:
keen rune
Yes-man companions aren't exactly the most interesting.
agree. However, I portray him as a kind person and so far all he has to say is "how can you help these people?" 😁
rain silo
agree. However, I portray him as a kind person and so far all he has to say is "...
How can you? 😛
keen rune
hehe
another stable trait of his that's emerging is that he constantly loses unique books you give him during quests. Saves me the locals bloat but might make the players angry
keen rune
Another update:
keen rune
Total quest tracker 📜
To do:
craggy mantle
What’s with the hearts?
keen rune
it's Detect Creature effect from that one mod, I get the ability when I'm in the wilderness thanks to one of the backgrounds in SosnoviyBor's mod
keen rune
Finally getting to making the Dra'Vashai captor to surrender as @astral acorn has suggested to make this consistent with Addamasartus418
works very well with Mercy
The Beauty and the Bandit commentary
astral acorn
Nice!
keen rune
Today's update:
Needs testing.
keen rune
nat* typo
keen rune
keen rune
Today's progress:
Total quest tracker (15) 📜
Bitter Coast ✅
Ascadian Isles ✅
Next:
rain silo
seems like progress is good 👌🏻
keen rune
so far so good. Will see how bloat will affect the mod. I don't know what to expect when the number of quests will grow too much. Or When I start doing questlines
rain silo
you expect reactivity from companions, so I think that as long as this is solid, it should be good
keen rune
hopefully
main attraction here is this constant hunt for quests that train your companion
great incentive to replay even the simplests of quests
rain silo
btw since this is an apprentice, one thing you could consider is sending him away for some time after he is leveled up enough. He would go back after some time and the player could pick him up at a certain location. This would actually be a good trick to move him to a place where you want as well, e.g. somewhere on the mainland.
keen rune
btw since this is an apprentice, one thing you could consider is sending him awa...
I was thinking about this, thanks, it could be interesting. But I found a potential problem - it appears that NPCs when left outside of active cell for more than 3 days reset their stats to default. Meaning, all his leveling could be obliterated if you leave him behind for 3 days
I'm still thinking about how to overcome it. Some companion mods seem to have a workaround. On the other hand, it could be explained story-wise: he is your apprentice and when you stop teaching him, he degrades
rain silo
With so many companions mods, I'm sure that some modders have dealt with this by scripts already 🧐 .
keen rune
I just have to find courage to look inside one of them. Or rather, to stop ignoring the problem
keen rune
Arresting his captor. The dialogue result checks whether he has prisoner's shackles in his inventory and rewards you with money if not. And adds them to his pocket that triggers a disable on cell change
Level up dialogue to level 3
royal trench
nice, that's a good idea. can i recommend, instead of "you did good" ; "you have done well" or "you did a good thing" to fit the setting more closely
keen rune
Yes, thank you. I'll accept any wording and grammar advice
keen rune
implemented Companion Share and NPC commentary of Dra'Vashai
Now, you can finally give him equipment and put all that battle training to use
Dren Plantation
Decided to turn it into a full learning experience if you defeat Orvas Dren
keen rune
Final Ascadian Isles quest commentary (no skill points)
Balmora development has begun
Blades and Caius
Look at this distinguished gentleman
Yes, very distinguished
Total quest tracker (18) 📜
Commentary values (can obtain only one when put separate): 🗡️offensive skills 🛡️ defensive skills 💟 Restoration skills 🔮 Alteration skills 🔥 Destruction skills 🤾 Athletics ⬆️ level up points 💬 only flavor commentary.
Bitter Coast:
Ascadian Isles:
Balmora
to do:
rain silo
keen rune
indeed. I'm kind of scared how unweildy it might become
rain silo
it's looking like a big companion mod now
and it started out as sth modest
Maybe you will be asked for patches and support for X and Y mod combo in the future 
keen rune
I'm happy for that 🐱
keen rune
Today's progress: did a style pass over all of dialogue, cut down on ellipses, shortened some wording, did tweaks and fixes.
keen rune
guilds dialogue to hint the player towards the factions the quests of which he will comment
implemented magic companion dialogue. He will be able to cast Minor Heal, Waterwalk (on both), and Lightning bolt (not AoE) when either of the 3 magic schools get above 30
Sparks in combat
one of the 2 commentary options for the ending of Hasphat's quest in Arkngthand
a new My trade entry for when he becomes your student
More progress:
keen rune
Daily update:
new quest:
skooma corpse
she is only one of the 3 alchemists in Blamora you could talk to about this. All have different replies
keen rune
Total quest count (21) 📜
Commentary values (can obtain only one when put separate): 🗡️offensive skills 🛡️ defensive skills 💟 Restoration skills 🔮 Alteration skills 🔥 Destruction skills 🤾 Athletics ⬆️ level up points (18) 💬 only flavor commentary.
Bitter Coast:
Ascadian Isles:
Balmora
to do:
keen rune
the main problem is, it doesn't seem to change his Fatigue stat. I need to research how it works
rain silo
the main problem is, it doesn't seem to change his Fatigue stat. I need to resea...
Fatigue is a derived attribute and it will get reset every time one of 4 attributes affecting Fatigue is changed. This includes NPCs.
It's better to give him Endurance or sth.
keen rune
ah, thanks very much. That explains a lot
keen rune
First Fighters Guild quest commentary finished
Some more Tsiya dialogue
Second Caius's mission commentary is finished
Daily update:
keen rune
Total quest count (21) 📜
Commentary values (can obtain only one when put separ...
updated quest tracker
keen rune
more testing and fixes to the Tsiya quest
New feature: you can give Dra'Vashai comberries and hackle-lo to eat. Berries restore a bit of his magicka
hackle-lo restores fatigue
second rumor for Balmora to point you to its quests
Implemented the 2nd Fighters Guild quest. Egg Poachers
rain silo
hackle-lo restores fatigue
Not very useful IMO as Fatigue regens on its own and it's dialogue, so not combat-related. You could go for a different effect.
BTW NPCs can get diseased on contact with such enemies and they can get their attributes damaged when fighting Greater Bonewalkers etc. Not sure whether it's sth you cover ATM.
keen rune
thanks for your feedback. The treats feature originally was just for role-play. When I run around these areas with tasty-looking fruits, I have this urge to take and give one to Dra'Vashai. The fatigue/magicka restoration is just a bonus effect. I even scripted replies for him where he randomly refuses the fruit. But the scripting doesn't work (I'm still learning how to use the Random100 global)
as for the disease and damage attribute, you got me there. I ought to learn to make the curing part work
ironically, it is exactly why I stopped working on the [Healer of Seyda Neen mod](#1504579540427477122 message). I have to learn to script restore attribute effect on an NPC
rain silo
as for the disease and damage attribute, you got me there. I ought to learn to m...
I'm sure there are many ways you could do this, but casting a custom spell on NPC that restores attributes or adding an ability that restores attributes (and removing it later on) should all work.
keen rune
probably why vanilla has no such quests at all. Too complex
rain silo
Note that attribute changes will affect Fatigue and Magicka both, depending on which one it is.
So if you damage Intelligence, Magicka will be recalculated automatically. If you damage Strength, Fatigue will be recalculated etc.
this is why modfatigue and modmagicka may be very unreliable unless you use safeguards
you can also add fortify max magicka modifiers as an ability if you need them
then Magicka will be recalculated with Intelligence change, but the NPC will benefit from the bonus
Fortify Magicka will work, but once Intelligence changes, the NPC will probably lose that bonus unless it's reapplied.
keen rune
I use this "Dra-Vashai418"->ModCurrentFatigue, 15
rain silo
Current Fatigue is flavour only because of natural regen, but for those permament Fatigue modifiers you used before, you can do a quick test:
lost
keen rune
I followed your advice and simply replaced Health and Fatigue point quest rewards with permanent attribute increases to Endurance and Speed (+3)
keen rune
you mean, if I modify Endurance, it won't add?
rain silo
no
keen rune
ah
rain silo
only Fatigue
and Fatigue regen
Vanilla tooltips don't say it, but Endurance affects Fatigue regeneration
keen rune
then this is the way
rain silo
yeah, no HP recalc
so Endurance affects Fatigue and Fatigue regeneration, but doesn't change HP for NPCs
rain silo
btw what's your issue with Restore Attribute?
I didn't pay enough attention to this
and you seemed to stop working on the other mod because of that issue
I damaged her Personality with a spell and then restored it with a different custom spell
so the effect is working
keen rune
I was overwhelmed and stopped digging it. But now I may try and resume. Thanks a bunch. This and that one quest from TR will be my basis for learning
one of the Ajira endings for Helping Tsiya quest
in total, there are 4 ways to help her:
arrange the supply of potions
obviously, the last option is the best one. But I wanted to allow the players to feel smart for figuring it out among the 4 variants
rain silo
Nice. It would be good to get a chance for a bad outcome, though. Allow the player to fail if they screw things up somehow.
keen rune
Hm, the failure ending is the proper ending for The Corpse and teh Skooma Pipe where you give Tsiya her skooma pipe. Dra'Vashai will be disappointed and the new quest won't start
it's one of the first quests where you can significantly wreck his disposition towards you. Currently, it dicreases by 20 points.
the mod already has a feature for when his disposition is below 20, he breaks away from you.
one of the most damaging quests I'm going to script is Rabinnia's Inner Beauty. In the ending where you deliver her to the drug dealers (so they could cut her up), I'm thinking of making Dra'Vashai attack either the player or the dealer.
rain silo
Nice
Go for drastic outcomes. They add flavour and reactivity. It doesn't have to be common, just sth that's possible to happen.
keen rune
Will keep in mind, thx
also, another comment on the nexus page today just boosted my motivation to keep doing this update
keen rune
egg poachers quest commentary mid-quest
Daily update:
Total quest count (24) 📜
Commentary XP points: 🗡️offensive skills 🛡️ defensive skills 💟 Restoration skills 🔮 Alteration skills 🔥 Destruction skills 🤾 Athletics ⬆️ level up points (18) 💬 only flavor commentary.
Bitter Coast:
Ascadian Isles:
Balmora
To do:
keen rune
Daily update:
keen rune
more Fighters Guild dialogue example
The middle of the Balmora questline is shady, and it will be hard to find any useful lessons to level up Dra'Vashai through it
his disposition is pretty dynamic - bad quests/decisions drop it. Even bad weather drops it. It'll be worth trying to keep it up. Otherwise, he leaves you for good.
giving him food helps
there's a secret 3rd dialogue option here that appears if you kill Manos Othreleth (trains his offensive skills 🗡️)
if you just bully the debt out of Desele, he learns nothing.
6th FG quest commentary:
3 to go to wrap up Balmora
keen rune
Daily update:
Two Balmora FG quests left.
rain silo
out of curiosity... how many dialogue records you have for this companion? 😄
keen rune
I see that big companion mods have over 6000. But my record is much more modest at the moment. Though, Idk how to count.
A question, I noticed that companion mods add a lot of unique location and quest-based greetings. I dislike working with greetings menu personally. And I think that it's cleaner to keep all the location/quest dialogue in corresponding topics. Like here.
What do you think is the best approach?
rain silo
Greetings are fun, but topics are way more orderly. It's definitely easier not to drown in dialogue records when you split things into many topics. There are many which have few Vanilla records and are rarely touched by mods. Greetings tabs are often overflowing and commonly used topics are little better. Greetings may be useful when you really want to bring the player's attention to sth. Critical stuff.
keen rune
good point, yeah
rain silo
Daily update:
- Implemented **Gra-Bol Bounty**
- Implemented **Alof and the Orcs...
btw I had a look at this file and it seems that your current approach with topics will make things less cluttered. One thing you may want to look at, though, is add some greetings for high priority Greetings tabs if you want some unique dialogue instead of generic one for some specific situations. Currently you keep things in Greeting 5 which means that the cat would get generic dialogue when the player has a bounty, is diseased, is a vampire etc. It's possible that you simply haven't got around to this yet. Still, you may want to have your own versions for that and the easiest way is to use a high priority Greeting tab (like Greeting 2) for such situations (so neither Vanilla dialogue nor modded dialogue would replace your own with generic stuff), assuming that you pick proppa triggers 🙂
keen rune
btw I had a look at this file and it seems that your current approach with topic...
Yeah, I was postponing this because I feel uncomfortable in the Greetings tab. But I have to do this for believability sake
Thanks very much for checking out the file. And for the specific advice about greeting 2, I didn't know that.
I also want to make unique replies for Bribe, Admire, Taunt. And, if I'll manage to make it work, use vanilla voice lines for specific contexts. Right now, he has chosen voicelines for when he's not following you
rain silo
Yeah, I was postponing this because I feel uncomfortable in the Greetings tab. B...
You can check generic greetings and decide which tab will fit. The game goes from greeting 0 to 9. 2 is usually important quest stuff and vampire reactions, while 4 has stuff like disease and high bounty reactions.
rain silo
I also want to make unique replies for Bribe, Admire, Taunt. And, if I'll manage...
Here I would recommend putting your unique id responses very high, above the ones that Vanilla MQ ghosts have. Few mods add any generic responses above ghosts. Actually, few mods add persuasion responses in general, but TR adds many specific ones and I add tons of generic or class specific ones in Better Balanced Taunt and Persuasion 
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You have 300+ dialogue records for the cat already. BTW I only checked this in CS with no in-game testing yet, but if I'm right, then some negative reactions with disposition drops will be easy to avoid by not clicking on the relevant topic. Just sth to consider, but maybe some of them could be moved to greetings. Only the bad ones which I think shouldn't be sth that the player can easily cheese.
keen rune
Yeah, I'm still thinking about it. Potentially, the player can avoid most disposition drops by simply not discussing quests with him. But then the player robes themself of the content the mod was installed for. In addition to that, Dra'Vashai has micro-disposition drops in Greetings for bad weather (rain) and night. So, it still may go down eventually
keen rune
You have 300+ dialogue records for the cat already. BTW I only checked this in C...
5700 to go 🥲
rain silo
Rewards and choices are fine for topics (the player will want to click on that, anyway). For bad stuff sometimes you give -15 or -20 and it's important, so I think it would fit greetings for believability's sake as well. Same content, just moved around in these cases.
covert sigil
5700 to go 🥲
One way they do that is by having relationship tiers/statuses and having different dialogues for those. Not having a romance mechanic immediately reduces dialogue probably by 20%-30%
What did you have in mind for custom persuasion and whatnot btw? If you're interested in having an .omwscripts for your mod, I was going to make a custom UI that shows up instead of the Persuasion window for my companion
keen rune
Rewards and choices are fine for topics (the player will want to click on that, ...
Okay, I'll consider some negative Greetings. Like the ones he currently have when you kill the other slaves in Addamasartus
keen rune
One way they do that is by having relationship tiers/statuses and having differe...
yeah, no romance 🐱
keen rune
What did you have in mind for custom persuasion and whatnot btw? If you're inter...
just new text for the situation of him being your apprentice and you're in total control of his finances
for example, when you bribe him, he'll say something like: "You want Dra'Vashai to carry your coins, %PCname? Of course, he'll keep them safe." (no disposition change)
rain silo
yeah, no romance 🐱
I was about to write that a romance plot with former slave might be too much
keen rune
but!
I was considering that he might fall in love with an NPC Khajiit. It's not set in stone however and might not happen
rain silo
just new text for the situation of him being your apprentice and you're in total...
Disposition will change btw. It's handled mechanically. You would have to use workarounds.
keen rune
Ah, good to know. Gotta think about it
covert sigil
just new text for the situation of him being your apprentice and you're in total...
Gotcha, that's a bit different from what i'm doing then haha
Although if I make a lua replacer for the window I'll let you know
rain silo
Ah, good to know. Gotta think about it
Persuasion tab only has responses (which can have effects but more limited than other dialogue). GMST and stats handle the effects.
keen rune
Although if I make a lua replacer for the window I'll let you know <:todd:559828...
I'm looking forward to your mods
keen rune
Persuasion tab only has responses (which can have effects but more limited than ...
Gotcha. I wonder if there's a way to script a specific result to fire in all cases
rain silo
Gotcha. I wonder if there's a way to script a specific result to fire in all cas...
You mean specific disposition effect? Untested. Don't know. Maybe with setdisposition in script text. I might test that as it may prove useful for other stuff. Persuasion tab sometimes works differently than standard dialogue.
I don't think you can always cause Bribe Fail, for example, but maybe I'm wrong. You can modify the effects and text, though.
astral acorn
I've had time to catch up and read through the thread, and I gotta say - I love the padawan dynamic 
keen rune
I didn't mean it at first, but master-padawan relationships do indeed suit this
keen rune
You mean specific disposition effect? Untested. Don't know. Maybe with setdispos...
setDisposition sounds like it could work
keen rune
Total quest count (24) 📜
Commentary XP points: 🗡️offensive skills 🛡️ defensi...
Quests: 30 📜
Level up points: 26 ⬆️
Commentary XP points: 🗡️offensive skills 🛡️ defensive skills 💟 Restoration skills 🔮 Alteration skills 🔥 Destruction skills 🤾 Athletics ⬆️ level up points 💬 only flavor commentary.
Bitter Coast:
Ascadian Isles:
Balmora:
To do:
keen rune
Daily update:
keen rune
Here, I made basic replies to all critical greetings in Greetings 0
that being:
rain silo
Should work 👍🏻 . Only guards use this tab. You have unique id.
rain silo
It would be fine even in 1
Probably no difference
0 is for crime (guards)
It always goes first
keen rune
ok, I overdid it a little but probably no harm
rain silo
Yeah, unless some mod adds global mechanic for greetings 0, no real impact, I think.
keen rune
Daily update:
royal trench
It's such a cool idea in general. Fair dues it's fun to watch all the progress
rain silo
Daily update:
- Implemented critical greetings.
- Half-way through Larrius's Lit...
Good stuff overall. You may want to make it more chill with crime check. -5 disposition for 1 bounty seems a bit too much .
Also, just so you know, Greetings in tab 0 take priority over tab 5
keen rune
right
rain silo
and you have I-need-to-leave-you dialogue in tab 5
which means that being sick will prevent it from happening
🙂
keen rune
Good stuff overall. You may want to make it more chill with crime check. -5 disp...
thanks for feedback. He's generally displeased with crime. But maybe I should tone down the penalty
rain silo
which means that being sick will prevent it from happening
if the conditions for any of the stuff in the red box are met, stuff in the green box (important things like leaving the player or being mad at him) will not be said
royal trench
So you can effectively gaslight him into staying with you by claiming your sickness drove you to do it
He's a conscientious cat
rain silo
the priority is always like this:
rain silo
I can see now a number of problematic situations with this order of entries
MW dialogue in a nutshell . Order is very important. Nice mod progress btw. Updates are frequent and good. Encouraging.
keen rune
hoping to do more after work
covert sigil
MW dialogue in a nutshell <:doitswit:561465241435897856> . Order is very importa...
Them 56 dialogue records for 1 NPC branching TR quests got hands
Yeah I took a look at my favourite TR quest and how they structured the dialogue for it, 56 records for 1 NPC. Think there were like 1 or 2 journal entries
rain silo
Yeah I took a look at my favourite TR quest and how they structured the dialogue...
It's probably the main reason why they are going for simpler quests now. Hopefully, some of the existing ones won't be "nerfed" much.
covert sigil
It's probably the main reason why they are going for simpler quests now. Hopeful...
Yeah for sure, much easier to maintain. I’ve heard them say that a few times
Although I think they might have had to rework my favourite quest for that reason since it’s right around Almas Thirr/Roa Dyr xd
keen rune
Yeah I took a look at my favourite TR quest and how they structured the dialogue...
I'm curious, which quest was that
covert sigil
I'm curious, which quest was that
A warmonger’s counsel
I think i say 56 combined since i looked at the records for his other quest, Duress of a slave. But yeah those are meaty
keen rune
is the NPC the son of Ilvi?
covert sigil
Yup
keen rune
yeah, it's a beloved quest with intense plot
covert sigil
Danvas
keen rune
Rats' golden work
covert sigil
I don’t even mind if the quest changes with PS, playing through them once was a treat
Aha, of course it was Rats
My hero
Khalaan was good too but idk, those hit hard
keen rune
you can try the new one right now to see. It was already refitted for the new Roa Dyr.
royal trench
Hmm it would be cool to have a version of this mod but for a dreamer, just whichever one is the first you interact with. It could be a lot of fun hearing they're opinions on things and trying to keep them quiet when they start shouting "lord dagoth has risen" in a crowded room
keen rune
iirc, not much has changed. Only technical things
covert sigil
I think I just stared at the wall and cried after the house war one lmfao
keen rune
emotional, yeah
covert sigil
iirc, not much has changed. Only technical things
Yeah I figured it would need to be refit for PS, but that quest is meaty so it would still be a technical nightmare
keen rune
Hmm it would be cool to have a version of this mod but for a dreamer, just which...
curious. I was actually thinking of doing something similar to the first smuggler you meet in Addamasartus. Take her on a journey
royal trench
There's many interesting ways to take the idea
keen rune
TES 3 is an uncharted continent of potential
covert sigil
Mostly I was interested in how he made Danvas remember the player’s choices and how he organised that, of course the writing was beautiful but that’s what stuck with me
royal trench
TES 3 is an uncharted continent of potential
After all these years it's still true
keen rune
Mostly I was interested in how he made Danvas remember the player’s choices and ...
was it with locals?
covert sigil
Yeah, a ton of them
I’ve been looking at a bunch of different dialogue lately so I haven’t revisited yet but I think I dissected it enough to be able to kinda emulate that
keen rune
short doOnce
short Companion
short NoLore
short BaadargoFree
short Moneys
short FargothRing
short Processus
short VoduniusLesson
short TerisHelp
short NelsLlendo
short BeautyBandit
short BelBowl
short Thoron
short AngryGlass
short PilgrimKummu
short TulTong
short Paur
short Dren
short Ark
short Eydis
short Varro
short VashaiLevelPoints```Hmmm no it’s in the dialogue itself
keen rune
this is my current list. Every misc that will teach him something needs a local
covert sigil
Ohh gotcha
keen rune
I don't know of a better way
covert sigil
I don’t even want to see mine 
although I’m doing a lot more since I have some lua shenanigans going on
keen rune
thankfully, I can get away with one local per faction questgiver - like Eydis here - because their quests can be done only one after another
I increment the Eydis local up to 10 with every Balmora FG quest and filter lesson dialogue through it
covert sigil
But yeah Danvas is a huge inspiration for my companion, that really stuck with me
Did rats do any FG or IL questlines? Those are the 2 factions I’ve never touched
rain silo
this is my current list. Every misc that will teach him something needs a local
That's not bad. It's only local. You have a script attached to the actor, anyway, so you can have many locals quite easily.
keen rune
sweet
keen rune
Did rats do any FG or IL questlines? Those are the 2 factions I’ve never touched
He did. Bal Foyen FG is his
no Legion, however
covert sigil
Oh wow looks like I’ve been missing out then