Vampirism skill & Clan system

[balmy minnow]

Hey guys, I'm working on a vampirism skill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td6tceASPiQ
Currently it allows the player to conceal their vampiric nature, the length and strength of which is dependant on one's vampirism level. Guards, particularly Ordinators and Bouyant Armigers can see through the veil much easier and may expose the player.
I've also implemented a Blood metre to go alongside health magicka and stamina.
The skill and blood metre only appear once the player has contracted vampirism.

Was wondering if anyone had any ideas of further implementations for the mod? Was definitely considering:

• Adding the ability to create minions/cattle.
• Adding new vampiric powers/rituals
• Adding the ability to make an interior cell your vampiric lair.
• Adding the ability to create your own Vampiric Clan.
• Adding dynamic Ordinator attacks.
• Adding some sort of bat transformation (not really sure how to do this in OpenMW)

[upper tree]

I don't really have suggestions beyond what you've laid out. But this is absolutely fire. May make me consider a vampire playthrough one of these days

[balmy minnow]

Thanks! I'm the same, I never play as a vampire in Morrowind because its borderline unplayable

[upper tree]

Pretty sure it's one of those things they've never finished. I think there was a quest mod or two floating around, but this would bring it to a new level

[slate adder]

If all the planned features listed are added, this is going to be an amazing experience

[elder wedge]

holy fuck!

Just let it be possible to only activate Vampirism skill in skill extender when your PC becomes a vampire! 🙏

[balmy minnow]

Yep that's the way it is now, the skill only appears in your skill menu once you've become a vampire

I'm trying to think of features for creating a Vampiric clan, I'll definitely add the ability to make NPCs blood thralls, I've made a script for surrendering and subjugating NPCs too so I think overtaking and absorbing the vanilla vampiric clans into your own would be cool too.

[rich trout]

Hi. I think that you may fish for ideas from other vampiric overhauls out there. I've bookmarked some of them in case I ever decide to play as a vampire - https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56101 or https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52969 or https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/50979?tab=posts . But I haven't played any of them yet.

[balmy minnow]

Thanks very much for sending those, the masqeruade mod looks great. I'm not sure if I want to go as in depth as DetailDevil's or the masquerade mod with different stages etc, gonna have the growth lean primarily on your relative vampirism skill level.

I think I'm going to have generic vampires dynamically approach the player too and either offer their service or fight them depending on vampirism level.

Here's an example of the Vampire clan feature appearing in the stats menu like a proper faction

Can name it whatever

[twilit panther]

How is the blood metre used? Or more specifically, how is it refilled and does it power any abilities

[balmy minnow]

As of right now it doesn't do much beyond fuel concealment. It's going to fuel differnent powers and abilities. Was also considering some sort of blood system where if you primarily drink the blood of one race you partly get their racial bonus i.e drinking th eblood of more nord thralls will give you more frost resistance etc

Trying to rig some sort of blood drinking animation, but if I can't ill add a red fileter and some sound effects

[twilit panther]

I was actually looking into your meditation mod recently to get some ui ideas for my vampire mod which is sitting at a concept development stage while I was trying to learn animations for feeding anims 😅 I know you’ve asked for ideas but I also don’t want to intrude too much

[balmy minnow]

haha no way, are you making a skill mod too or just an overall vampirism mod? I'm definitely gonna release a light version of this mod that just adds the skill, concealment and the ability to make your own clan to be compatible with other vampirism mods. Also I got a lot of the UI implementations from Ownlyme, he helped me remake my swimming mod and added crazy UI features so I'd definitely check out its code for inspiration

[twilit panther]

My plans are for a non-skill vampirism mod, a concealement mechanic there would be tied to your current % blood pool and how often you kill people or feed on non-hostiles vs how often you behave in a socially appropriate humanlike manner to counterbalance your obvious undead-ness, but a skill implementation is also great. Ownlyme is amazing at UI isn't he!

[gaunt sable]

this sounds awesome, thanks for continuing fleshing out new skills :D
just to bring to your attention some other vampire related mods with cool ideas
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57621

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58216

[balmy minnow]

Thanks for sharing these! Definitley gonna make a lycantropy skill too a some point

[balmy minnow]

Working on the bloodline feature, basically when you make your own vampiric clan whatever your highest attribute is defines your bloodline. In this case my willpower is highest so myself and NPCs I make into vampires will have high willpower and magical resistances. I'm kinda imagining it in a way where the player could cultivate a Clan based on their playstyle

[elder wedge]

Finally I can live out my 80s HK wuxia horror fantasies as a nibenese vampire monk

[twilit panther]

Do you plan to scale attribute/skill bonuses or sun damage with the skill level? 🤔 and what are your thoughts on consequences of having low or empty blood pool

I’ve sent you a dm with some potentially useful stuff that may end up not being useful at all (which is why it’s not here)

[balmy minnow]

Open to suggestions, but for now I'm picturing a level-scaled buff based on which Bloodline you have. Low blood would result in weakened abilities, buffs and increased sun damage

[balmy minnow]

Working on the lair system atm. It's going to function as a little management system with different workstations you can assign minions to such as a gargoyle carver, enchanter etc. One I'm excited for is the Daedric Envoy, allowing you to commune with different minor daedric lords and strike deals/alliances. I'm also going to implement a main quest alternative backdoor for Vampires,

[balmy minnow]

Going to make a few different seals to choose from for your clan as well. They' display in the menus and in clan specific dialogue windows

Vampirism skill & Clan system

[twilit panther]

The daedric deals component is especially intriguing!

[slate adder]

Can't wait

[coral fjord]

This is AMAZING! I’m loving all these new Skill mods coming out

(And I’m even working on two myself! :D)

[balmy minnow]

Nice! What skills are you making?

[twilit panther]

@balmy minnow sent you one solution for the animation problem

[coral fjord]

Evasion — basically boosted dodge chance when wearing no and light armour

Staves — takes staff weapons out of blunt and make them their own thing. Skill usage also boosts casting chance

[balmy minnow]

Cool! Really like the staff skill separation. I just love new skills, so I'm happy tosee new ones coming out.

[storm oyster]

This looks amazing do you gonna add feeding mechanic like in skyrim or oblivion with animations? That would be great to sneak feeding or combat feeding or feeding unconscious enemies.

[slate adder]

Grr, do you have a release date in mind?

[balmy minnow]

Not too sure, I'm pretty busy in college atm, I could definitely release a version containing some of the features, the skill, concealment, basic lairs and basic vampiric conversion very soon and just update it to the level I want as I go

[balmy minnow]

I'd love to add proper animations but it's proving really difficult. If I can, I will, and if it's not possible I'll create the best visual feedback possible without direct animations

[balmy minnow]

Man issue I'm having is connecting the npc to the player to both engage in the animation

[balmy minnow]

Here's a showcase of the Vampiric lair system, currently adding a bunch of workstations you can assign your vampires to. The blood ALtar is the centre of the lair, and serves as a blood repository. Blood is the primary resource for improving the lair, indoctrinating more vampires, and improving your clan's reputation. I've also added placeable sleepable coffins, as well as the beginnings of a Gargoyle-crafting station to make gargoyle minions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP_av60uDzU

Any non-civilized interior cell can become a potential lair once cleared of hostiles. Personally I find strongholds and ancestral tombs to be the coolest spots. If you indoctrinate vampires they'll walk around your lair, still fine tuning NPC recruitment however.

[gaunt sable]

woah that sounds dope

[slate adder]

🔥 😱

[coral fjord]

[balmy minnow]

Lmk if anyone has any ideas for different workstations NPCs can be assigned to. Right now I have an enchanting, alchemy, teleport, armourer, gargoyle carver, imp maker, worshipper & envoy workstation. These are static objects you place in your lair and can assign an NPC to. They'll stand around their workstation with relevant idle animations and offer their services.

Also adding warrior roles for NPCs. You can order vampires to go out and hunt for chattel or scavenge for supplies. The more excursions you send out, the higher likliehood a bouyant armiger/ordinator raid might occur in your lair.

[slate adder]

😘

Are the NPCs you can assign predetermined or can I make Fargoth my chancellor or whatnot

By the way would Vampire Embrace be compatible with this mod?

@balmy minnow By the way are you the creator of the Meditation mod? Really enjoying it thus far.

[balmy minnow]

As of right now anyone can be anything, but I might make it so that an NPCs highest stats determine what they can do, that way you would have to seek out talented people to convert. Vampire's embrace is compatible but I'm hoping to make this mod have all of its features.

[balmy minnow]

I am, thank you! I'm sorry about its jankiness, for one the skill levels wayyy to slowly. Gonna release an update this week to fix that and some other keybind issues people were having.

[slate adder]

Now we wait...

[slate adder]

The little meditation animation brings great joy.

[hushed shoal]

Would you please allow the mod to work without a new skill? If stat window extender isn't installed, use level x 10 or something

[balmy minnow]

Do you mean for vampirism or meditation? I'd be happy to make versions that don't use custom skills. I couldn't guarantee they'd have complete feature parity as with the stats window extender versions because making new skills is definitely the biggest draw for me.

[hushed shoal]

Nevermind then, no reason to make something you don't want to

[slate adder]

Hmm

[storm oyster]

Hi theres this mod its for mwse. I have no idea how but he manage to make feeding animation and other cool features like visual sun damage or turning into mist and flying and blood serums and claw attack for vampires like khajit and argonians.But takes some inspiration from Game called Vampyr ( and its a great game btw) maybe you can look into it if it helps https://github.com/OperatorJack/Vampyr-Vampirism-Expanded

Mod is not finished of course but there is some progress videos he made too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wsjhfUqxDk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp65shUzxfk