N'Garde. Vanilla-Friendly Parry and Active Block.

[inner hare]

The spear is a common weapon for light irregular troops and militias, but has been developed as a martial art form by the Bosmer. In Morrowind, the Ashlanders favor a wicked and elegant version of the spear, with a spike at the foot of the shaft.

*The long reach and high efficiency of this two-handed long-shafted axe-like weapon makes it well-suited for combat with encumbered, heavily armored opponents. Using this weapon in massed formations requires a high degree of skill and training, and its bulk makes it difficult to use in close quarters, so the weapon is, with significant exceptions, neither common nor popular for use by mercenaries or adventurers. *

[cyan reef]

I believe the in-game literature cites spears as tribal weapons and the weapons of hero-warriors.

[inner hare]

this is what's said in Morrowind

and Legion troops definitely fight in formation

magic exists, but magic protection also exists

so it's more complex than that

[cyan reef]

Archmagister Gothren: "Free mega kill!"

[inner hare]

unless he gets Reflected

in game terms, you would get Reflect roll for every entity hit. It doesn't need to be 1:1 in the lore, but the threat would be there, so it's not as if Fireball AOE is some kills-everything-with-no-counter thing

[cyan reef]

There's also the threat of a Telvanni lord just summoning a heap of unbound Daedra in the middle of the battle.

Tamriel Rebuilt has a quest that does exactly this.

[inner hare]

the Empire literally employs Battlemages

they are the elite part of the Legion

well, the "elite" part is arguable since Battlespire is literally them getting fucked, lol

[cyan reef]

And also,individually,less skilled or powerful than any Altmer war wizard or Telvanni worth noting. Their advantage is numbers and military discipline.

Because,in the systems of warcraft employed by the Cyrodiilic Empire,*all four of them,*logistics and strategic scope thinking is more valuable than any singular overpowered asset.

[inner hare]

they don't need to be more powerful 1 on 1, although I will note that Zurin Arctus was an Imperial and one of the most well-known battlemages in the lore

[cyan reef]

Outliers will always exist.

[inner hare]

and if the Dunmer were oh-so-powerful-beyond-belief, they would have never surrendered to the Imperials, yet here we are.

they had 3 gods on their side, all their old wizards, all their Redoran and Indoril warriors etc.

yet Morrowind still joined the Empire

[cyan reef]

My theory regarding the Four-Score War: ALMSIVI was overwhelmingly powerful,and inspired their troops to incredible feats. However,they had no idea how to properly wage war on the strategic scope.

Thus,Reman Cyrodiil was able to grind them down to a stalemate,and they signed the Treaty of the Armistice.

[inner hare]

well, I doubt that Sotha Sil or Almalexia are strategy geniuses. Probably not their forte.

Vivec would probably be better but who knows

too much stuff told about the Tribunal is mythical or legendary in nature

[rustic latch]

I've given up trying to explain lore inconsistencies in BGS games

[cyan reef]

Sotha Sil's a scholar,Almalexia's the bullish sort,and Vivec's the clever cockbite. Mage,Warrior,Thief. They represent the Guardians,as any Oversoul demands.

[rustic latch]

given their track record of one writer having no idea what another is doing

[inner hare]

there are no inconsistencies here, though. If anything, uncertainty is intentional

[rustic latch]

One of explanations for that was that Tribunal had recently lost access t othe tools

[inner hare]

unless you mean game-to-game stuff

then yeah

because they retcon stuff all the time

[rustic latch]

You're giving them too much credit

[inner hare]

and they will retcon more stuff in TES6

[inner hare]

TES3 was literally made with the assumption that truth is meant to be vague and various historical interpretations are to be presented with no clear answer

that was one of the design goals

[cyan reef]

I'm speaking fully within the scope of what I can find in vanilla Morrowind,and Tamriel Rebuilt. Tamriel Rebuilt has the explicit objective of prioritizing pre-Oblivion lore.

[inner hare]

and it's one of the reasons why MW is exciting IMO

[inner hare]

because they ignore TES4 and TES5 whenever it's convenient

most players do as well, I guess

I mean, do you care about Red Year when playing Morrowind?

[rustic latch]

lmao

Sorta? I usually end up with a player home as far from Vvardenfell as possible :P

[cyan reef]

Actually,I kinda do. It recontextualizes the entire main quest in a delicious way for me.

[inner hare]

nothing post-TES3 truly counts when playing TES3

if anything, it's all alternative history

[cyan reef]

Whether or not you're genuinely Nerevar Reborn,you're still just Azura's patsy in ensuring that Dunmer society gets fucked in the most apocalyptic way possible. Because she got slighted.

[inner hare]

and TES5 is happening like 200 years later, anyway, after a few retcons as well, so it matters the least

I guess that Oblivion Crisis is actually the thing which seems the most legit

because it's been foreshadowed

obv the details would be different

[cyan reef]

Nibenay Cyrodiil is supposed to be old-growth jungle.
According to post-Morrowind lore,Tiber Septim used godlike powers to cool the entire region's climate to European temperate.

[rustic latch]

Nah, I definitely ignore this vain attempt at making previous games irrelevant

Should've just gone with another dragonbreak

[inner hare]

lol, this is literally what Kirkbride wrote - 2 sentences - as a failed attempt to somehow "save" the retcon made in TES4

and it was made outside the game

in-game the devs didn't even care

this is how much Bethesda cares about its lore

[cyan reef]

And Heimskr in Skyrim VERY FUCKING LOUDLY preaches in Whiterun.

[rustic latch]

Warp in the West, Warp in the East, Warp in the Center

Dragonbreaks for everyone

Explans why everything is so fucked, and why and how skyrim regressed 500 years socially in 200 years

[inner hare]

the stupid Nords forgot how to use spears

so I guess 5000

it's actually better when we pretend that each TES is happening within some sort of pocket universe, Dragonbreak or whatever, lol

[cyan reef]

Note to self: Look into the Old Lore as to why Dragonstar is split between East and West,Berlin style.

[inner hare]

it's actually recent history

Redguard-Nord tensions post-war

[cyan reef]

...The locals mentioned a faction known as the Crowns.
And I watched a Just Background Noise video about TESA:R,and the Crowns keep getting brought up as a royalist faction.
Huh. I guess Cyrus has a lasting impact?

[inner hare]

Crowns and Forebears is sort of what Hammerfell is

I'm afraid to link UESP Lore stuff because they mix everything

but you can read about the Dragonstar stuff in-game in SHOTN

the war happened a few decades ago

it was called War of Bend'r Mahk

it's related to BS which happened during TES Arena

with Jagar Tharn causing all sort of mess in Tamriel

it was barely explored back then, but later became more developed lore

I will also note that Jagar Tharn is another famous Imperial Battlemage 😄

[cyan reef]

And a right cockbite.

Several NPCs and quests in Firewatch also mention the mess the Simulacrum made.

[inner hare]

yeah, it was a true mess

[cyan reef]

It was basically no-man's land in Telvannis during the Simulacrum.

[inner hare]

he became a faux Emperor

[rustic latch]

And in and around Anvil too

[inner hare]

Arena happened like 30-40 years ago

it wasn't that long

[cyan reef]

Living memory for all the races.

[rustic latch]

I still maintain my stupid theory that Trebonius is the Agent

Fucked up by all the trauma and the dragonbreak

[inner hare]

yeah, which is why Dragonstar stuff is quite recent history

[rustic latch]

sent for a quiet retirement in Vvardenfell

[cyan reef]

Could explain him being a nepobaby. Could also explain his combat competence. Leaves his administrative competence up in the air,though.

[inner hare]

maybe he is a secret offspring of Jagar Than's!

[rustic latch]

""What do his papers say? Akato? Fuck if I know what Chancellor's name is after that mess""

[cyan reef]

Nobody in the Vvardenfell Mages' Guild liked Trebonius.

[rustic latch]

The man is not sure if he can trust reality

[cyan reef]

Mostly because he's a pointy-haired boss.

[rustic latch]

He's an absent boss

he gives tasks only to those that ask for them

and it's on them

[inner hare]

it's funny that TES Arena basically had shit all for plot yet Simulacrum became an interesting story point in the lore

[cyan reef]

I mean,a pretender wearing the rightful ruler's face? That's epic plot bait.

[inner hare]

I often find that TES stuff works much better in the background/as lore stuff rather than actual in-game events.

probably because Bethesda writers rarely can do the latter justice

and the devs face technical difficulties as well

but if it's history and there are some mysteries involved, suddenly everything becomes cool

[cyan reef]

Maybe Bethesda should stop with the fucking scope creep,and narrow right in.

[inner hare]

if the battles that happen in Skyrim-the-game - the ones with 20 guys on screen and lagging despite that funnily low scale - were described as lore events, they could be epic af

Oblivion Crisis sounds awesome on paper. It's not like that in TES4 because it's just a fucking grind with closing the samey gates and no depth.

[cyan reef]

And then in came the lore of what was happening everywhere else.

[inner hare]

which was fun!

[cyan reef]

Skar was reanimated to defend Vvardenfell.
Skar lost.

[tough juniper]

hey now let's be fair, there was one line in game too. they clearly tied up all the loose ends

[inner hare]

When I was playing Oblivion, I was more interested in the rumours from the other provinces than in-game stuff

when I heard about the Hist recalling the Argonians, Vivec's disappearance, Telvanni wizards struggling with the gates etc., it was all super exciting

my imagination ran wild

and when I returned to the in-game reality, well... it was another boring Oblivion gate that had to be closed

I bet that if I heard about dragons attacking Skyrim and some hero fighting them with the power of Thuum, it would have been far more exciting than what actually happens in Skyrim-the-game, where dragon encounters are sort of like fights with buffed cliff racers.

so yeah, I think that there is sth in the way Bethesda depicts events in-game and in the lore that makes the latter far more interesting most of the time

can't say it's the norm in gaming since many games actually have very boring backstories and you tend to be more interested in what's happening to the characters in-game

[inner hare]

btw I sort of wonder what you mean. Was it sth from the Mysterium Xarses or the prophecies about changing the climate? It's been a while since I've played Oblivion.

[pastel vine]

Probably a dumb question but N'garde should load after mercy?

[cyan reef]

They shouldn't have any overlap,so load order agnostic,relative to eachother.

[tough juniper]

its in one of Mancar Cameron's monologue's, he uses it as a point for why tamriel is a secret daedric realm iirc

but like, a passing mention really

hmm i might have misremebered actually 😂

i was sure there was a line about it but i can't find it now

ah yeah it was from the mythic dawn commentaries, i just love that guys voice so it got stuck in my head

"CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled."

so.. yeah..

i guess thats case closed 👍

[cyan reef]

Here's a thought exercise: Are the Agent,the Last Dovahkiin,and Cyrus the Restless Heroes/Prisoners?

[hearty scroll]

No, you're correct, he does make a one-sentence reference to Tiber Septim. He paraphrases though, talking about a Red King (iirc) and the fact the place was "once jungled"

...or something like that

[hearty scroll]

Nevermind, you found the reference -_-'

(I should read everything before posting too fast)

[regal egret]

80 percent of Tamriel is some kind of tropical environment, and then there's the Nords

[tough juniper]

Yeah it's a good line but not much in context

[tough juniper]

They all spend some time in prison but it doesn't really define them as characters

[inner hare]

They are Smooth Criminals

[rustic latch]

What Riddle said. No overlap in handler so should be fine either way

[cyan reef]

I mean in the cosmological sense,as defined by Sotha Sil.

[tough juniper]

Ah

I see

[iron lance]

I wouldn't say 80 percent, High Rock is pretty temperate and Hammerfell is mostly desert with only the sea borders being tropical, also, Vallenwood is more of a big forest, which we do have in tropical countries, sure, but it doesn't make big forests tropical

Plus half of Elsweyer is almost the same big forest while the other half is a bit of a less dry desert with some mountains and stuff

Also Black Marsh is (mostly) just swamps and Morrowind is... Mushroom in Vvanderfell and rest in rest

Also Summerset Isles are like, magic and stuff

Crystals and shit, yeah? Never payed attention to their lore

[hearty scroll]

I don't even remember what "the prisoner" concept was tbh 😅

[cyan reef]

Someone unmoored from causality,with no history or real identity. Unfated and free-willed. Able to see the bars of their prison,the Godhead's dream,and potentially see the door.

[rustic latch]

^ Main character

[cyan reef]

In the meta-sense? Yes.

But in-universe? Cyrus has a clear identity and history... and yet he still does some genuinely wild shit. Same with the Agent. And the Last Dovahkiin is,at least by my reckoning,a heat-seeking missile loosed by Akatosh.

[rustic latch]

Also, I dunno. I often find deeper "metaphysical" stuff in TES mindnumbingly boring. It's a soup of real-world mythologies, and those are not great at undertanding even their own made up world already

[rustic latch]

Agent has no history or identity beyond "friend of the emperor" tho

[cyan reef]

And a complete service record that you define.

[rustic latch]

Eh

about as much definition as talking to Socucius in MW

[regal egret]

I don't think you can really count pre-redguard stuff as 100% canon anyway

[tough juniper]

I think there's a lot more to it than that but at the same time I agree with the TR take on the esoteric lore, it's cool that it's there, but it doesn't need to get in the way

I think you can safely define it all as canon. Its more interesting that way imo

[cyan reef]

Every myth is true.
Every *account,*though...

[tough juniper]

Nothing is true, everything is permitted. I find the idea of a world built of literal metaphor pretty compelling

But it still shouldn't really affect the lives of your average muck farmer

[cyan reef]

And then in comes the living god to help the muck farmer.
At least,so the story goes. That reads like state propaganda.

The Temple of the ALMSIVI Tribunal is a deeply flawed and corrupt institution,but it still does good work. You can make a whole damn,if small,game around that on its own.

[hearty scroll]

Agreed. At least until some portal to oblivion opens up in the middle of their farm, or a meteor crashes on their head 😅

[tough juniper]

Yeah but you don't spend time worrying about supernovae when the vetch need milked

[hearty scroll]

I mean, when you look at the everyday values and actions of the low-level temple members, at the very least these gods have influenced their society with some good (though you don't necessarily need godly powers to do that)

[rustic latch]

I'm not sure where "corrupt" part comes from, except for general assumption that "all religious orgs are corrupt". Authoritarian? Yes. But Temple is the reason the people of morrowind are healed, fed and housed when they can't fend for themselves

There are no beggars in MW, and that's cause Temple hostels. One of the reasosn I dislike Populated Morrowind and other mods just mindlesly adding beggars to cities

[inner hare]

Yeah, Vvardenfell wouldn't be flooded with beggars except in some extreme circumstances and people who avoid the Temple or the law.

Repopulated Morrowind is good. It's made by one of the TR devs btw.

[fair wing]

I have an idea @rustic latch

if theres a way to detect if the player is falling but also colliding with terrain or whatever (sliding down a cliff) could a sliding sound be added?

/vfx /animation?

animation is too complicated because it depends on direction / IK

but dust vfx and sliding sound could be really cool

could make the sfx and vfx scale with the amount of time "falling"

[rustic latch]

Not quite sure. I don't think there's a straightforward way to detect that...

Specifically that case whene player is not on ground, but only cause collision is wonky/slope too steep -

[fair wing]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58575 this mod works in tcl

it disables controls when there is a collision at the direction of movement input

[rustic latch]

raycasting probably

[fair wing]

probably yeah

[rustic latch]

I basically do the same raycast for NPC collision avoidance in N'garde

with some bells and whistles

but for sliding - I'm not sure how to do that

[iron lance]

You can not count a lot of things as non-canon through out the Elder Scrolls

Hell, even recent stuff is considered not so canon, like the ESO Golden Road Expansion

There is no way there is a actually a multiverse in Elder Scrolls, but they made it for some reason

Though not really a multiverse

But still, it's basically a multiverse

And they decided to put it in the lore

But there is no way it's canon, it contradicts other stuff too much

[fair wing]

oh right this mod also doesnt work on terrain

the running one

so I'm guessing detecting terrain collision is rough

[rustic latch]

It's tricky

[fair wing]

I'll copy these messages anyway, as an idea for the future maybe

[rustic latch]

I can't test rn, main laptop dead, but will may take a look later

[fair wing]

I read about that, rip

[rustic latch]

Still a sliver of hope. Gonna go and see tomorrow. Mentally preparing myself that it would be dead-dead

[inner hare]

hope is the first step on a road to disappointment , You have to try, though.

[rustic latch]

Hope is a cloud, grief is deep water

Mostly annoyed at the idea of having to buy a new one, with the way hardware prices are right now

[fair wing]

what even happened to it?

I was considering buying myself a gaming laptop to do textures on the fly

but I'll get a desktop instead probably

I keep hearing they overheat easily and when that happens a portion of the computing and rendering power dies

[rustic latch]

Honestly, not a clue. Friday night I was questing around Akamora. FPS dropped to 2. Laptop hot. I shut all the heavy programs down, desktop lag seemed fine.

Shut it down, opened it up, cleaned out the dust, as I did many times. Put it back together - dead.

Not even a light on the power button.

Opened it up again, check all the connectors etc. Put it back together - light on power button, still won't turn on. At that point I've disconnected the battery and on Sat went looking for a repair shop. No one would take it (come back monday) but I think I found a shop that does decent board level repair, hence the hope. So imma hit them up first thing tomorrow morning

I've used to only ever run desktops, but I've had to move 6 times in last 4 years - hence a laptop

[iron lance]

Jesus

[fair wing]

damn that sounds exactly like the warning I received from those people

[fair wing]

I get moving a lot, it sucks

[rustic latch]

🤷‍♂️ laptops can overheat, yeah. Some more than others

[fair wing]

rip

[iron lance]

I use an external cooler on mine

[rustic latch]

It's generally fine, but sometimes shit happens

[iron lance]

But external coolers aren't really practical

[fair wing]

I'll invest in a good desktop to have for the future

rn I sorta use my dads desktop

I bought some of the components

[rustic latch]

Most new laptops are also choke full of ai crap

including a "copilot button" that you can't even fucking rebind

[iron lance]

Only windows 11 ones

[rustic latch]

🤮

[fair wing]

but when I move out I'll def need my own desktop

[rustic latch]

a physical button

[iron lance]

Oh shit, fr?

That sucks

[fair wing]

c*pilot

censor that please

[iron lance]

Why did they think this was a good idea?

[rustic latch]

that you can't fucking rebind, cause it's "meta + shift+ f23" but doesn't register properly even in windows, let alone other OS's so you can't rebind it

[rustic latch]

cause microslop gave them money

[iron lance]

Aaargh

Fucking shareholders, man

They think they know so much, as if their jobs aren't gambling with extra steps

The idiots couldn't know what is a good product if it hit their heads with a hammer

[uncut sun]

finished TR addon for my armor mod. Posted in new thread if you want to check it out

[iron lance]

Noice

[iron lance]

Disgusting

[rustic latch]

Great news!

So I'm leaning towards buying a desktop and just biting the bullet if I need to ship it anywhere

if I have to buy a new pc

which is alos a fuckign bad time for it

[iron lance]

You could buy an external cooler on the mean time

They are pretty good

[rustic latch]

Laptop dead, I remind you :P

nothing to cool

[iron lance]

Oh yeah

Oof

[rustic latch]

I have an old work HP, that I'm writing from right now - which I think my company forgot I have, but it has no dedicated graphics and doesn't overheat

[iron lance]

In my country we have a saying
"Who doesn't have a hound, hunts with a cat"

Pretty much that •-•

Still, really sorry for your laptop, this kind of shit is unfortunate.

[rustic latch]

Bad timing generally. I was thinking of replacing it one day, but I was hoping I'd be able to sell it or give it away to a family member at least

🤷‍♂️ meh. We'll see what tomorrow brings

[iron lance]

Guess you can't do either when it doesn't even turns on

[inner hare]

ironically, if you want to play modern games, GeForce Now may be a far better investment as it's sort of like subscribing to Netflix. You can play Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings even on a potato PC, no problem, as long as you have a good connection. You control the subscription, so you can cancel/pause when you aren't really playing. It won't work with games like OMW, though.

[rustic latch]

Meh

I have 700 hours in Cyberpunk and am done for now

have not been interested in anything else "modern" recently

and my other stuff very much needs to be local

[iron lance]

Also you can't mod in these type of things

And modding is like

Half the fun

[inner hare]

well, that's fair, lol

[dusk palm]

Has anyone tried this in TES3MP btw ?

[rustic latch]

Won't work. TES3MP iirc is a fork of openmw 0.47 and while it is updated on occasion, it diverged too much. And Tes3mp lua is a very different beast to what is available for OMW

[wet tendon]

that's why I like desktops. if something blows up, I can fix it- with laptops there's 59.5 little screws you gotta take out to get to the inside of it

[rustic latch]

And if it's a board you can replace it

moving across countries with a desktop is much tricker however

[wet tendon]

yeah, I think with most laptops the boards are welded in

[rustic latch]

so 🤷‍♂️ . I had to pick my battles

[wet tendon]

ah, where you from?

[rustic latch]

Ukraine

[wet tendon]

that's cool- I still use the pc I put together 13 years ago

[rustic latch]

Had to move around quite a bit last several years. And when I could afford a new pc - I went with a laptop precisely cause - "i've no clue when I'll need to pick up sticks"

in retrospect - may have been a wrong choice, but eh, whatever

[drowsy rain]

laptops have been deliberately made harder to repair, so

especially keyboards. my god, the keyboards

[rustic latch]

well, at least the fucking keyboard while you can't repair you usually can swap out

and it's not that expensive

e-waste still, but not as bad as a dead cpu, or soldered ram

[inner hare]

Just witnessed Dremora Lord blocking my arrow shot

[rustic latch]

Nice

[rustic latch]

Welp. Left main laptop at the repair shop. Now we wait

[rustic latch]

Ultimate mark of approval (if you're in the server, love the name)

[sour cipher]

This W8 mod took around 20 years to finish and is spectacularly bad, but look how a few frames snatched from an existing pain / death / attack anim could work to visually telegraph dodging (at least in a Nix Hound). https://youtu.be/jfomcLpSBQg?t=48m59s (it’s actually a pain anim in this mod but it does look like it’s dodging)

[rustic latch]

Creature dodge animations are not in not cause it's hard to do, but cause there's fuckton of creatures. :P It being a few frames doesn't make it meaningfully easier I don't think

But also. wtaf is that mod O_o

[sour cipher]

Frame snatching could be automated with an AI or something?

[rustic latch]

Maybe, at that point it stops being my problem and won't be in this mod

[sour cipher]

Just your average insane Russian mod for W8 that rips the entire roster of creatures from WoW, HoMM5, Morrowind and a dozen other games, triples the slog, and makes the game less enjoyable in countless innovative ways https://www.moddb.com/mods/wizardry-8-expanded

[rustic latch]

I mean... I've seen some of those im my day. This one beats several records on all insanity charts

[sour cipher]

Yep, it’s a crane.

[rustic latch]

jfc

[sour cipher]

Dude has been playing W8 since he was a kid and always dreamt (to liberally quote his own words) of combining all the ideas from the big W8 mods into one and make a playthrough last at least a few hundred hours and shove in as many new creatures and items as possible. Also good luck finding out the new 200+ crafting recipes, let alone the changes in mechanics—all traces of documentation are missing on purpose because «manuals are spoilers» or something. He started making the thing around 2005 or 2006.

[rustic latch]

That's some dedication

[sour cipher]

About 4 people on this planet were able to finish a playthrough before going insane.

I believe the MW equivalent would be 4NM.

[rustic latch]

4NM is tiniest bit self aware

that w8 thing doesn't seem to be

[hearty scroll]

He an agent of Cthulhu ?

He found the hidden knowledge, and now tries to spread it

[rustic latch]

quite likely

[sour cipher]

BTW can someone identify what game the mod stole this alit / kagouti hybrid from? Looks tangentially Gothic.

[sour cipher]

Are you religiously opposed to the use of AI for even mere automation?

[iron lance]

Is openmw even equipped to properly change creature animations currently?

I know it can do for humanoid and beastfolk characters, but idk if it was even tested in creatures

[tough juniper]

Yeah you can change or replace them to whatever. We got goblin shield blocking in for N'garde

[iron lance]

banger

[kindred imp]

borger

🤤

[inner hare]

looks like a squig from Warhammer

[sour cipher]

My first thought actually because of the cartoonish legs and spikes but squigs have quasi-humanoid faces and that thing’s mug evokes a shrieker from Tremors

[somber quail]

There are some amazing expansions to Quake that still hold up today, but 'Scrooge' was not one of them, lol.

Very d*ckish enemy placement and ammo shortage issues.

Cute 'lil feller does fit in with the rest of the MW gang though.

Just stopped in to say that mod is working flawlessly still in spite of a lot of carelessly maintained mods.

Figured some good news might cheer you up.

[sour cipher]

And it defo had no Chompers. God I hate the system prompt google uses for the Gemini instance built into the search box, it bars the thing from saying «I don’t know» or «I’m not sure» altogether.

[rustic latch]

That's good to hear. Sometimes the lack of bug reports worries me

[wet tendon]

if there was ever a mod of the year award, I would suggest this one- ngarde broke openMW's combat system wide open

and also I thought it was silly that you couldn't block arrows

[rustic latch]

At least with shields yah. I still think that deflecting arrows with a weapon is a bit silly, but TES is a land of gods and heroes, so whatever. But at least shields fits exactly with my idea of "what if beth had another year to cook"

[maiden tangle]

Even though the mechanic is now included, I don’t really going for it actively, since it’s still often much easier to just move out of the way while handling other resources like taking potions, throwing spells, shooting projectiles yourself.
Best scenarios are when there were a narrow interior corridors where I carefully deflected arrows, while trying to get less space between me and that insert cat meme here

So in general it the best case having the option, but not overusing it jut cause

[rustic latch]

Given the high skill levels necessary for it I'd say overusing it would be tricky

[inner hare]

Yeah, it has low impact if the whole playthrough is considered

[wet tendon]

Unrelated: I wonder if anyone's tried to do discord RPC support for openMW

[rustic latch]

Can be done and ownlyme posted a version few days back.

I've never enabled discord activity at all, so never tested any of it. Nor understood the appeal.

[wet tendon]

i've had one made for months, but the way it works is sort of cursed and is sort of beyond the scope of what openMW sandboxed lua can do

[rustic latch]

Rubic0n then?

[cinder gulch]

Just a powershell script

Not even necessary though if you use vencord

[rustic latch]

Imma go out on a limb, and guess that "parsing logs" is the cursed part :P

[cinder gulch]

Not really

[rustic latch]

However, meh - doable several different ways and that's good

[rustic latch]

Vencord's a client - can it plain read logs? Or does it have some API?

[cinder gulch]

Has an addon you can just add RPC to for any exe

[rustic latch]

Yes, but how. Fucker's not reading hot memory, does it?

Ah. Just user input ( at least what I'm finding)

reasonable

[rustic latch]

🧐

Anyone seen any jittering or enemy freezing in place on latest version?

[misty phoenix]

I haven't tested it yet, but I might play a bit this weekend

[rustic latch]

Let me know

Can't reproduce that specific one. Thinking the user might have done something silly

[candid wren]

Is damage on perfect parry a thing?

[rustic latch]

Nope

Why?

[candid wren]

I think I just figure it out

Toying with it and I got damage based on block and strength implemented idk how poorly though, no errors in the log for me after overwriting this with your existing parry.lua file

[rustic latch]

I'll need to take a closer look once I wake up. But I'm not sold on it as a feature

We already reflect quite a significant amount of fatigue back to the attacker

health on top of it seems too much

To the point when right now if you get hit by something stupid strong that would otherwise one -shot you - you can theoretically knock the enemy out with a perfect parry

On the first glance - works as you intended though.

It's 3 AM however, so Imma head to bed

[candid wren]

Ok np

[rustic latch]

So three pieces of good news, and one of bad news.

Bad first:

1. I don't think I will integrate it into the main mod. As is - feel cheap and unnecessary to add damage to the perfect parry.

The good though:

1. What you've posted works. Even if I would've made some changes to integrate it properly.
2. I've just updated the interop hooks and events in the indev version of n'garde, but also - the perfect parry hook already exists in released version - so you can make it a submod with relatively little trouble.
3. I'm going to try something with animations and much shorter (like 10% of current) window for a "riposte" - that would do something like this. However - still feels a bit cheap, and if I don't figure it out with existing animations - it will have to wait till my main laptop is back from repair, cause current one has alot of trouble running blender

[rustic latch]

Minor notes:

1. Perfect parry already burns attacker fatigue, so don't think that is necessary in the "bash"
2. util.clamp exists and util.clamp(value, from, to) will do the same as min(max(value,to),from)
3. Debatable, but this one may be a decent fit for the "hit" event instead of "modifyStat", as it's essentially a counterattack

[inner hare]

How is your laptop?

[rustic latch]

{Technician name} working on it

Actually, I probably should give them a call today, it's been almost the entire week

[inner hare]

||F?||

[rustic latch]

No idea, that's the problem

They told me they would diagnose for potential repair and then I'll need to make a call if I want to pay for the repair. I haven't heard the diagnosis yet

🤷‍♂️

[wet tendon]

nah, parsing the log is the easy part- and hyacinth is right- what I did was grab data and dump it to log in lua, used a powershell script to parse the log file and translate that to readable variables that a wrapper could use to send to discord

the cursed part is how to handle different continents, and how it should handle situations where a player jumps from an interior to another on a different continent

[rustic latch]

Recursing through doors till you hit an exterior?

[rustic latch]

Well fuck. They think the CPU is dead, I guess I better go and start checking modern parts and compatibility et al

[wet tendon]

i stopped using namebrands a long time ago, I had a Dell Inspiron 530 that I couldn't swap the motherboard on because it was welded to the case, so I built my own

[rustic latch]

meh

I needed a laptop, not a tower. Lenovo had a configurator that meant I could skip storage OS and some other stuff and save ~300 bucks

🤷‍♂️

I'm not happy the fucker died

but whatever

[inner hare]

F

Was it a good toaster?

[rustic latch]

Bleugh. I guess time to build a tower, seems like it'll be much cheaper than a new laptop

[rustic latch]

The best

[wet tendon]

yeah, you saved 300 bucks, and now you have to spend 1000

😄

[rustic latch]

Seriously, however - was quite a beefy laptop. If GPU was on the weak side.

[inner hare]

I give you .... you receive...

[wet tendon]

im surprised mine hasn't blown up yet, i've had it for 13 years

[rustic latch]

I've had to travel with it, and moved house 6 time in that time span. I've saved more than 300 bucks, that's for sure

[sour cipher]

Some places offer free diagnostics, but if you turn down their quote, they'll steal your stuff and swap in dead parts to make up for the 'free' man-hours; others will plant things like dead CPUs the moment they realize it's not worth it. The verdict always shifts the blame toward the swapped part and never mentions the root cause

inexplicable cpu death is extremely rare, especially resulting from a cleaning routine

[rustic latch]

I've not turned down anything

jeebus how paranoid are ya'll

[sour cipher]

and this is the first place to look at this issue? no other shop touched it?

[rustic latch]

yeah, the first one to look inside

also, it's a fucking laptop - you're not swapping a cpu without swapping the board, or resoldering it

[sour cipher]

did they say anything as to how this could have happened

[sour cipher]

ehm i have swapped laptop cpus multiple times not all of them are soldered in place but even those that are take just a few minutes if it's an automated IR station

wait 3 minutes, remove

put in a new one

wait 3 minutes, done

[rustic latch]

They are not even done looking at it yet, I've called them up - they say "short circ, but we are trying to find where, cpu may be dead, we are waiting to hear from lenovo, when we know everything - we'll tell you"

[sour cipher]

the reason why i learned all the stuff i know about pc repair is exactly to avoid electronics repair shops; my home society is a low-trust one, swindling the client is considered a virtue, and electronics repair is barely legally regulated; one of my favorite YT shows is a repair dude dealing with laptops plundered by previous repairmen and sometimes engaging with them in various ways

[rustic latch]

Consumer protection is very much a thing here. Local solicitors would be chomping at the bit

[sour cipher]

it's just bizarre that cleaning the thing would somehow short it and finding the exact spot is most of the time pretty simple, from minutes to an hour at worst; sounds just a bit like a cop-out for "it won't turn on, it's not a typical case either, it's low on our priority list, let's falsely suggest the worst outcome and tell the client we have to talk to lenovo to buy us more time"

"we aren't done looking at it" is often a polite "we haven't had time to look at it yet"

[inner hare]

I wonder if they did actual work during this week btw

as it varies a lot

but "high priority" looks nice

[tough juniper]

My last laptop CPU died because of a design flaw in the model. I had it fully replaced and the motherboard melted

Towers hold up the mundus

[sour cipher]

aaaah intel 13 or 14 gen?

yeah they do that

[inner hare]

it's funny because there are laptops that have beefy stats on paper, but towers usually just end up working better

[sour cipher]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1eg8wl0/intel_core_13th14th_gen_issue_megathread/

[sour cipher]

means in this kalpa

[rustic latch]

powermanagement and thermals

mostly down to that

most laptops also come with laptop specific GPUs, so you read "oooh 3060!" But nah, it's not the same as desktop 3060

[inner hare]

yeah

this is very noticeable

like, 3060 should be good enough for 95% of stuff on the market

but it's different 3060

[rustic latch]

yup

Should I buy a used gpu 🤔 now. Probably would off some crypto-miner cunt

[wet tendon]

jawa.gg has good deals

(sometimes)

[rustic latch]

I've seen too many adverts for it to trust it

I also hate the idea of buying a new nvidia gpu for the fucking prices they are charging :/

[wet tendon]

Someone was selling a 5090 on it for the low low price of $3899 🤣

[rustic latch]

[rustic latch]

So... I got KCD style riposte working. Mostly. Needs more polish.

Some points about it:

1. Rewards passive playstyle. Even more so than parrying does already. But I guess it would only work in 1v1s anyway.
2. I don't want it to be reasonably possible to win a fight just by doing that. So lower damage and spread over more skills and attributes.
3. Weapons only, screw shield bash. But really - I can re-use vanilla weapon attack animations, but currently don't have anything that would reasonably run blender, so can't polish my shield strike wip anims
4. How is it different from just attacking after the parry? I don't know if it is. Maybe make it a guaranteed hit, but again, cheeeeeesy
5. I'm thinking it should only fire in the first half of the perfect parry window.
6. And probably will need a higher internal skill threshold.
7. Will add a setting for it, but won't do "player only" - that feels bad

[river sluice]

Can we get different sfx and vfx for hand to hand blocking? Especially if it's wearing no armor.

I'm loving the mod btw

[rustic latch]

Yes, eventually. SFX are already "different" but let me explain
My idea for still including the "ring" - is to make it clear that "perfect parry" has happened. Feedback clarity over anything else

Without the perfect parry h2h plays a "hong kong action movie style wood thwack" sound, which seems very appropriate.

For the VFX - I need to find something, or come up with something, not sure what would be appropriate

[river sluice]

I think no vfx probably better than sparks

[rustic latch]

Hmmmm

Maybe

I can see that

specifically for unarmored h2h block

[river sluice]

My fave hand to hand fps game was xeno clash

Had great thonking sounds for blocks and kicks etc

[rustic latch]

well, can't reuse them. obviosly

but I may check it out

[river sluice]

I just mean for inspo

On mechanics and feel, too

First person melee combat that works well is rare I think

[rustic latch]

I mean, that's for sure out of scope - maybe one day, but I'm not overhauling h2h combat in its totality here :D

[river sluice]

Don't expect you to

But you never know what ideas might come

From mucking round in a game with good first person feels

It's only 8 hours or so

Fun one shot

[rustic latch]

enemy health bar also doesn't appear during the riposte 🤔

[subtle turtle]

Saw this mentioned this above, not seen any freezing, but do see NPCs jittering, rotating towards/away from the PC while guard is held. Doesn't happen all the time, had a look at load order and seemed to happen less frequently when removing Real Weapon Range Extended (fCombatDistance + weapon range edits), but could be placebo. Double checked settings and Smooth Movement etc.. are all enabled, use a lot of the same animation mods as in the demo

[rustic latch]

Interesting. In dev version has some udpates to movement controllers, but it will be a bit before I release it

Would you say it happens when enemies are just at the edge of their weapon range?

And do you have mods that would cause enemies to flee, e.g. Mercy or HBFS

Meanwhile @candid wren , check this out

[rustic latch]

Just to make sure - the issue I got report of yesterday, was indeed caused by disabled settings. So whatever you have is not that.

But just in case:

Enable "Use Additional Animation Sources" setting in the launcher
Enable "smooth animation transitions" setting in the launcher
Enable "smooth movement" setting in the launcher. This one and one above will prevent jitter on NPCs in combat
All three are enabled, right?

[subtle turtle]

Yep those are all set - HBFS yes, Mercy no. Tried standing still and trading blows and doesn't seem to happen - NPC enters guard, rotates away, but no jitter. Not sure if it would be of any use, but happy to share a log

[rustic latch]

The rotation is the weird part

cause I don't touch NPC rotation at all

log, maybe

can you spawn an npc, enter combat with them, and then do tai and see if it still happens when you attack them

that may not help too much, but won't hurt to try.

oh

do you have fair care?

[candid wren]

Testing out the shield bash?

Or perfect party bash?

Ive made some changes since i sent that last files idk if your interested i been playing around with options and different things, made a bracing block too

Over looked bashing an enemy to death so there a threshold now on a percentage, and an option to not kill on bash, set the threshold to 0 for knockout after fatigue damage

[rustic latch]

#1482416741077356692 message

[waxen cliff]

.arrean

So... I got KCD style riposte working. Mostly. Needs more polish.

Some points about it:

1. Rewards passive playstyle. Even more so than parrying does already. But I guess it would only work in 1v1s anyway.
2. I don't want it to be reasonably possible to win a fight just by doing that. So lower damage and spread over more skills and attributes.
3. Weapons only, screw shield bash. But really - I can re-use vanilla weapon attack animations, but currently don't have anything that would reasonably run blender, so can't polish my shield strike wip anims
4. How is it different from just attacking after the parry? I don't know if it is. Maybe make it a guaranteed hit, but again, cheeeeeesy
5. I'm thinking it should only fire in the first half of the perfect parry window.
6. And probably will need a higher internal skill threshold.
7. Will add a setting for it, but won't do "player only" - that feels bad

Linked by @​.arrean from #N'Garde. Vanilla-Friendly Parry and Active Block. · May 22, 2026, 8:26 PM

[candid wren]

Ohhh ok ok gotchu

[rustic latch]

Mostly. You gave me some decent ideas. However - I'm not implementing it without animations - that just feels cheap, instant damage however low.

So for now - I'm re-using vanilla attack animations

for shields it's a toss up

either do the riposte with the weapon held in the main hand, which is more realistic anyway

[candid wren]

Understandable

[rustic latch]

or leave them alone

cause shields are strong as is

[candid wren]

Attack types then?

[tough juniper]

maybe it could be tuned to be more risky when your not 1v1? or vice/versa. so its less passive, more of a choice

[rustic latch]

best attack of a held weapon

and I'm thinking instead of flat damage - it will do some percentage of the weapons attack damage

for that attack type

But you're getting into credits for the idea and original implementation. I redid most of it, added animations and key listeners etc, and it is now an actual "attack" as far as the game concerned, but still - good idea and good POC

[rustic latch]

yeah, that's something I've been thinking about

so it's a choice

and never happens on its own

probably can re-use the same hooks I did for shieldstrike

so riposte only happens if you have LMB held down while holding the guard up and it fits within half of the perfect parry window

may be finicky, both to implement and for the player though

[candid wren]

Thanks, I have a bracing stride/stand for blocking while standing still and moving idea, like a vanguard or bombarder type play style

[rustic latch]

Elaborate? Not sure how that would work

[tough juniper]

what if instead of a portion of damage it somehow reduced the targets armour rating? like a short damage armour skill effect, so it just opens them up for more hits 🤔

[rustic latch]

do creatures have armor?

[candid wren]

So I hold block after a set time I loose more fatigue that normal, and moving drains the fatigue bar faster.
Incoming damage is lowered overtime at the cost of more fatigue drain over time.
The incoming damage lowers and fatigue drains faster the longer you block in place not moving

[rustic latch]

hmmmm. Not sure I like that. Doesn't really fit the general playstyle I've worked the mod around. I tried to discourage turtling

[inner hare]

No

[rustic latch]

Thank you

[candid wren]

Ok ok

[rustic latch]

I mean - once the main is a touch more stable - you're free to modify it for personal use. But yeah, I probably don't want that specifically in the main mod

"touch more stable" meaning "I've stopped fuckign with it"

[candid wren]

Yea no definitely can’t wait nothings wrong for me so far with the mod

[subtle turtle]

No fair care, attached might make it clearer exactly what i'm seeing - first example NPC enters guards fine, second see this rotation & jitter back and forth. Tried tai and jitter stops, even if moving to very edge of weapon range.

[rustic latch]

Ah

[tough juniper]

but do they have an AR?

[rustic latch]

Well, that is normal

[inner hare]

If they cast Shield.

[rustic latch]

The "supported one hand guard" animation is a bit jank, the jitter is a bit weird, but generally - that's the same kind of behaviour I'm seeing

[candid wren]

Maybe having using the same attack type at the same time as the enemy trigger the riposte
Ex. You use a thrust attack at the same time as an enemy

[rustic latch]

she is at least not freezing in place, doesn't actually rotate away from you - the small rotation you're seeing is due to animations behaving slightly differently for movign and stationary targets, jitter probably is too

[candid wren]

Or is enemy attack type not recognized

[rustic latch]

Fencing wise - yes
Game wise - no,

tricky to design around
and also not possible without significant jank currently

Actor A has no knowledge of Actor B attacking until that attack lands

I have some threat communication hooks - but due to dealy on events - it will be very tricky to tell which attack is which

it won't be continuous

well, not just because of events

in general

[candid wren]

Prediction? Like attempting to determine what type by the windup

[rustic latch]

nah-nah-nah

that's not the problem

the problem is continuity

I can't connect that windup to the hit event in any meaningful way

and if you are fighting more than one enemy it becomes a whole mess

Also - need jank to tell which attack the player has wound up

cause self.controls.use doesn't work right

or does, but not for this

And also - we have no way of getting weapon position in the world

hence I think - riposte should happen on parry,
parade-riposte and all. But I'll think about how I can make it only happen by choice

I also want it to be very difficult

Or, reasonably difficult, but only available on higher skill level.

[rustic latch]

And yeah, it seems it happens at the edge of their weapon range, when they try to decide whether to stay put or move closer

I may have some improvements ideas for that

[hard tree]

I've been playing Avowed and I'm really looking forward to trying this mod out with Poison Song 😁

[rustic latch]

So, Imma wait for your feedback come late August :P

[inner hare]

If lucky

[subtle turtle]

Ahh, great - yeah that would make sense when standing still it doesn't happen (and adding in real range making it more frequent). Thanks, fantastic work on this!

[rustic latch]

Yeah, sorry, not a bug just a bit of my animation jank :P

[inner hare]

If there is no jank, is it even Morrowind?

[rustic latch]

[rustic latch]

Speaking of.

@here

I've been adding interop and information fields and events.

Here's what's currently in, that is there mostly for other mods to know wth is happening.

https://gitlab.com/Arrean/openmwluaparry/-/wikis/Home/Interop-Hooks

Any ideas on what else should be there?

[inner hare]

is @here supposed to be a prompt-type message?

[rustic latch]

Supposed to ping those present in the channel

🤷‍♂️

[inner hare]

right

[rustic latch]

May be disabled by default

[inner hare]

well, I didn't get a ping

[rustic latch]

Well, naught I can do about that

[candid wren]

You just added these?

[vagrant needle]

Is there a recommended setting to make it work best with Sols mods? (Expanded Vanilla included attacks mods)

[rustic latch]

Recently yes, those are in git version but not on nexus yet

[rustic latch]

Maybe someone else can assist. My understanding is that it shouldn't really conflict but I haven't played with Solthas mods in a while

[candid wren]

No conflict at all

Hmm I’m thinking, is there a way to implement a timing system after a riposte, perfectly parrying an attack and then pressing the attack key would allow to do a quick attack, not a shield bash but like when you open up from the prefect parry you can hit the attack key at a finer window for a counterattack

Playing the thrust anim to show breach of the counterattack kinda

The anim can be like a jab with the hilt?

[rustic latch]

I mean. You can do that already through stagger

That's the point of perfect parry. Open up the opponent for an attack or two

That plus riposte on a shorter timer than perfect parry seems plenty

[hearty scroll]

IIRC Solthas is in my install. N'Garde is lower in my LO since I basically just added it at the end on top of my old install.

BTW, is it vanilla behaviour that HtH hits damage HP instead of fatigue when the target is paralyzed?

[real onyx]

yes

[rustic latch]

Good to know. I don't use it, but it seems popular. Glad there's no conflicts

[hearty scroll]

TBF I don't even remember what Solthas's mod does, this is an old install from before I took a break, so for all I know there could be incompatibilities and I wouldn't notice that Solthas's mod isn't working. But N'Garde at least seems to be working working properly and I haven't noticed anything crazy occur during fights 👍

BTW I was testing stuff with paralyze, and noticed that console command TGM makes me able to move around even when paralyzed, but I cannot attack : is this vanilla behaviour, too?

[rustic latch]

Partially

N'Garde considers paralyze a "stagger state"

so I prevent parrying and attacking during it

attacking more as a side effect, but yeah

and N'Garde currently doesn't respect TGM

I probably should add a hook for it, it's not too difficult to do

just for consistency

[vagrant needle]

Yes, but (and maybe that is just my setup) if you use charge attacks mod (one that if you spam attacks you lose stamina) there is, in my experience, very small window of attack between blocks/parries of the enemy.

Generally, I feel like there could be more punishment for parry spam for both player and npcs. Fighting two dagger opponets regardless of level while having twohander can be quite frustrating. But overall I really like the mod.

[rustic latch]

I mean. All NPCs have a parry cooldown of 0.5 seconds minimum, and that's 0.5 seconds at 100/100 in main and secondary skill. Generally you're looking at a second or longer

they also don't hold parry up for long before dropping guard and continuing to attack

and you got staggers etc

[hearty scroll]

I had a mod on TES V that added a "perfect parry" sort of thing, where if you raised your shield just before the enemy hit landed, you negated all damage and staggered the enemy (IIRC).

The way this mod dealt with the spam prevention was that when you raised your shield, you gained an effect that lasted for a short duration and had a cool down, and receiving a hit during that effect was what negated damage and staggered the enemy.
You received the effect regardless of wether you were under attack or not.

I know N'Garde works differently, this just reminded me of it.

[rustic latch]

No, in that sense its quite the same

raising a guard starts a timer

whether in combat or not

getting hit while that timer is running and the guard is still raised results in a "perfect parry"

lowering the guard actually didn't use to reset the perfect parry timer. But I've changed it while troubleshooting something else an update or two ago

need to change that back

Importantly - only one timer exists per actor, and it can't be restarted if it's already running

It's generally not noticeable if the perfect parry timer is stopped when guard is lowered, cause it's short. But I better restore original behavior

[hearty scroll]

That TES V mod also had a feature where if you successfully perfect blocked an attack, your cool down was reset, but if you didn't, cool down occured. To prevent defensively spamming, but rewarding successfully timing the blocks.
Though both the ability to perfect parry and the ability to reset timer were unlocked via perks IIRC, the cool down reset being higher level in the same branch as the perfect parry.

[rustic latch]

I mean - ultimately, I think I have similar thing achieved? I'm not sure I agree that with the current setup either NPC or player parries are spammy

[hearty scroll]

I love N'Garde as it currently is 🙂

I thought I remembered the "effect" timer being visible in my buffs HUD, but now that I think about it, I think it was the cooldow that appeared as an active effect.

[inner hare]

IMO the mod is in a good place. In fact, barring the obvious stuff like technical improvements etc., I think that it would be best to make potential future features optional. Reading these ideas about riposte and such makes me wonder whether the risk of overcooking is becoming too high. Shield bash, master strike etc. sound cool on paper, but the way N'Garde is integrated with Vanilla mechanics make it seem like... enough?

Mod appears to be pretty feature complete. At least on the player side. I bet that a lot could be done on the AI side, but it's PITA in terms of implementation (because MW actor AI) and compatibilty (everything should work smoothly with Mercy, Fair Care, Take Cover etc. or it will feel like a downgrade), not to mention the fact that some people would riot if things became more difficult (and this is what would happen if flanking, melee-ranged coordination, anti-AOE defensive manoeuvres etc. were implemented).

[rustic latch]

It is perfect for it ends here. Indeed

The riposte - I'm personally not sold on yet. I have it implemented, it's not bad. But it definitely is going to be off by default if I decide to ship it

[inner hare]

that's fair

[sour cipher]

A possible expansion vector is creating a Mercy extension, gimme a sec

[rustic latch]

What for?

[inner hare]

N'Garde works with Mercy.

[sour cipher]

I was just reacting to Cybvep's words "et that a lot could be done on the AI side, but it's PITA in terms of implementation (because MW actor AI) and compatibilty (everything should work smoothly with Mercy, Fair Care, Take Cover etc. or it will feel like a downgrade)"

[inner hare]

New stuff would be more N'garde specific like getting out of parry FOV, for example

[sour cipher]

yeah, and if it has to be compatible with mercy at all times, it could probably use mercy as a dependency and be a mercy plugin -- the extra ai-related features, that is

so it would require ngarde cause it expands ngarde

and mercy cause it's a mercy plugin

this is terribly overlooked https://github.com/MaxYari/behaviourtreelua2e

[rustic latch]

I wouldn't say it's overlooked. It's just too big for what I am doing or want to do

[inner hare]

Yeah, AI stuff is big and annoying to deal with. I'm still happy that N'Garde works with Mercy so well.

[sour cipher]

Overlooked in the larger community.

Like it's just Mercy that is based on it lol.

[inner hare]

That's true. Probably because few modders want to deal with actor AI or with Mercy compatibility.

last time Max worked on Mercy he seemed very tired of it. He did a lot of work, though, fixing various bugs and improving performance.

[iron lance]

Isn't Max retiring because of all the job Mercy gave him?

[inner hare]

was he working on Mercy? I think that not recently.

well, last update is Feb 2026, but not after that, right?

[rustic latch]

He just said "I'm not having fun at the moment, burnout bad - Imma do something else for a bit"

which is completely fair

[inner hare]

yeah

[iron lance]

True

[inner hare]

he made a prophecy before he left, though

[rustic latch]

Translation call

🇩🇪 @maiden tangle🇫🇷 @hearty scroll When/if you have time and inspiration:

enable_riposte_setting_name: "Enable riposte mechanic"
enable_riposte_setting_desc: "Enables manual or automatic riposte that happens when an attack is perfectly parried in the first half of the perfect parry window. In manual mode hold down the LMB while parrying for the riposte to happen"

controller_left_trigger: "LT"
controller_right_trigger: "RT"
controller_off: "none"

fatigue_effects_full: "With fatigue effects"
fatigue_effects_partial: "Fatigue effects limited to 50%"
fatigue_effects_off: "Without fatigue effects"

parry_creatures_all: "Yes"
parry_creatures_shields: "Shields only"
parry_creatures_off: "No"

riposte_mechanic_manual: "Manual"
riposte_mechanic_auto: "Auto"
riposte_mechanic_off: "Disabled"

And not sure if LT/RT for controllers even makes sense to translate, leave them as is if not

I've finally gotten to integrating the values of select settings into localisation too

[hearty scroll]

In what context do these appear? Just to phrase it the most appropriate way :

`controller_left_trigger: "LT"
controller_right_trigger: "RT"
controller_off: "none"

fatigue_effects_full: "With fatigue effects"
fatigue_effects_partial: "Fatigue effects limited to 50%"
fatigue_effects_off: "Without fatigue effects"

parry_creatures_all: "Yes"
parry_creatures_shields: "Shields only"
parry_creatures_off: "No"`

[rustic latch]

Here

It's the select values for these settings

[hearty scroll]

cheers

[sour cipher]

😭

[hearty scroll]

What does "fatigue effects limited to 50%" mean? Is it divided by 2, or is it a ceiling? If ceiling, 50% of what?

[rustic latch]

Divided by really

I may need to rephrase that

[hearty scroll]

Wondering if a "100%" and "50%" would make sense, or if it is a misrepresentation of the mechanic

[rustic latch]

what it means in a long-winded way is that if you have 15% fatigue, all formulas will act as if you have 30%

20->40 etc etc

[rustic latch]

A bit, cause it can go up to 120% with fortify spells :P

[hearty scroll]

But not to 60% with the partial effect option?

[rustic latch]

no

[hearty scroll]

Cheers

[rustic latch]

Hold on, let me think on how to best explain in a way that is not a code snippet

What I meant by "50% fatigue effects"

Is that fatigue is about 50% as impactful and you generally won't feel the impact at all until you are below half

does that make sense?

[hearty scroll]

I'll go with the "effect cut in half" route then

[rustic latch]

Cheers, that works

[hearty scroll]

@rustic latch 🇫🇷

`enable_riposte_setting_name: "Activer la mécanique de riposte"
enable_riposte_setting_desc: "La riposte se déclenche (manuellement ou automatiquement) lorsqu'une attaque a été bloquée par une "parade parfaite" dans la première moitié de la fenêtre de "parade parfaite". En mode manuel, presser et maintenir le clic gauche durant la parade pour déclencher la riposte."

controller_left_trigger: "gachette gauche"
controller_right_trigger: "gachette droite"
controller_off: "néant"

fatigue_effects_full: "Impact de la fatigue"
fatigue_effects_partial: "Impact de la fatigue divisé par 2"
fatigue_effects_off: "Pas d'impact de la fatigue"

parry_creatures_all: "Oui"
parry_creatures_shields: "Uniquement avec bouclier"
parry_creatures_off: "Non"

riposte_mechanic_manual: "Manuelle"
riposte_mechanic_auto: "Automatique"
riposte_mechanic_off: "Désactivée"`

I'm not a controller user in general, so I'm a little unsure what video game conventions are for the french version of "RT" and "LT" (could be that the english "RT" is actually what french players are used to 🤔 ). In doubt, I went with no abbreviation to make sure it will be clear in any case.

IIRC : "RB" "RT", "LB" and "LT" are litterally written on the controller's buttons/trigger, but I'd rather take no chance.

[rustic latch]

Yeah, even just "left" and "right" would've worked too

Well, if anyone plays mod on a controller and in french - they may tell us :D

Thank you very much!

[hearty scroll]

You're welcome

I feel that the "fatigue impact" section in french is a bit awkwardly phrased tbh, but it felt the clearest and most synthetic way to phrase it.

[rustic latch]

I have no choice but to rely on you. I took one year of french back in middle school - I don't remember anything

[hearty scroll]

In this case, I prioritized clarity over flow :p
Couldn't think of anything more clear that wouldn't turn into a full sentence

[rustic latch]

Yeah, completely fair

[rustic latch]

1.2.8

• Minor hotfix for miss combat feedback handler.
• Minor hotfix for lower guard animation handling on script detach

@random spear check it out and re-enable "miss combat feedback"

@remote gazelle should address what you've reported too

[inner hare]

patiently waiting for first report just to confirm no regression memes happened

[rustic latch]

the png is ready

[inner hare]

You recovered the cat from the laptop?

[rustic latch]

However - shouldn't. I've deliberately made this update based on last nexus version, not whatever bullshit I've been up to on the dev branch

[rustic latch]

Oh, yeah. Pulled everything off

Just heard from the shop today - they think they can't fix it. So I'll go and collect it tomorrow

"no fix no fee"

[inner hare]

"Why is my character master striking?"

[rustic latch]

Oh, btw. Got that working fully within player control

if you don't press LMB while parrying - no master strike will happen

considering removing the automatic mode

And ofc npc do it too

[inner hare]

"From Sekiro parry mod author: Morrowind combat has just become KCD combat!" 🗒️

[rustic latch]

I at least played and almost 100% achievements in KCD

[inner hare]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-mckay-tom-kcd-tom-mckay-kcd-kingdom-come-deliverance-henry-of-skalitz-gif-181997993219534957

[rustic latch]

There was a funniest interview with the guy soon after 1 came out btw. He never played the game, so was very confused by some of the memes

never played at that point

iirc he since did

[inner hare]

Later on he embraced them

[rustic latch]

yup

[inner hare]

I underestimated crossbows. They are like repeaters. Very fast.

[rustic latch]

Need context on that one

but yeah crossbows are stupid fast in MW

[inner hare]

Faster than bows

[rustic latch]

and/or stupid strong, cause a crossbow that can be reloaded that fast is either a mechanical marvel or very weak

[rustic latch]

Do you mean the load and shoot animations?

yeah

[inner hare]

High tier bows have higher max dmg

Like way higher

And there are no crossbow artifacts

[rustic latch]

I think that's just cause there are not really any high tier crossbows

[inner hare]

I have Adamantium one

38-38 😏

[rustic latch]

Yeah, fair, that's high tier

bows go up to 50-something tho

[inner hare]

Yep

And there are artifacts

[rustic latch]

min==max is cool tho

projectile speed still stupid however

[inner hare]

Also, throwing weapons are underrated

Very fast support weapons

[rustic latch]

crossbow shoot animation is ~150 ms long, but bolt flies very much faster with "full draw"

noticeable difference between "click" and "click->hold->release"

[opaque raptor]

Perfect translation. 🇫🇷 Impeccable, difficile de faire mieux sans perdre en clarté 🥐

[vocal ibex]

hey @rustic latch ! is there a way for me to blacklist my mod's cells from being effected by n'garde? I've found that this mod is breaking my boss' behaviors and causing some framerate issues

[rustic latch]

No, there isn't. What are the bosses?

[vocal ibex]

well, two bosses in beneath the permafrost. I also have scripts attached to some npcs in encounters, which seem to be breaking

[rustic latch]

Breaking how?

[vocal ibex]

both bosses are pretty heavily scripted to cast spells based on timers and dice rolls, with n'garde they end up getting stuck and just stop doing anythingg

[rustic latch]

N'Garde releases NPCs that are in mage stance

this shit again

fuck

[vocal ibex]

also there are some swarms that I think the lua is causing big fps drops when i spawn in like 50 skeletons lol

[rustic latch]

I mean...

that is on you

[vocal ibex]

xD

i like l4d

[tough juniper]

[rustic latch]

you do realise that on MWSE that will just blow up, right? :P

[vocal ibex]

there's no plan to make some sort of blacklist that's like "hey n'garde just turns off in this cell"

[rustic latch]

well maybe not blow up, but performance will be even worse

[rustic latch]

no, not really. There's no logic to support anything close to that

I mean - for exteriours it's also going to be stupid

you cross the cell boundary and suddenly npcs stop or start parrying? Can you imagine the bug reports?

However

Since you're the mod author - we can work on fixing the boss fights

Downloading your stuff now.

[vocal ibex]

i'll get you the ids of the npcs

[rustic latch]

I've had the same problem with "Tribunal Main Quest Reforged" and after a long while gave up. And I couldn't get a hold of their scripter for it

one thing that was the case there

and that I urge you to try and try and explain to me

get into a boss fight

let it start

then disable/enable the boss

smart money says that after that the fight will complete normally with ngarde enabled

No idea why

[vocal ibex]

hmm ok i'll try

[rustic latch]

but that worked for Tribunal mod

obviously not a solution

but it's fuckign weird

Do let me know what cells boss fights are in, and what quest stages are necessary tho

[vocal ibex]

so disable/enable fixes it for a moment, but then when they roll to cast another spell they freeze again

[rustic latch]

...

I'm getting through your dependency list

give me a moment

[vocal ibex]

lol

bosses are in:
"Morasil Skarr"
"The Frozen Crypt of Nhar'zekhaal, Chamber of the Lich"

[rustic latch]

any journal/quest stages necessary?

and are you on 1.2.7?

of ngarde

[vocal ibex]

no, boss fight will just start if you tp in
i'm using 1.2.8

[rustic latch]

cool

forgot I've updated today :P

that really meant "are you on latest"

[vocal ibex]

no problem if our mods are just incompatible, I've got a LOT of crazy shit happening in my mod. most of the combat npcs have some scripted behavior

i've just been getting reports from poti people and yea it seems this is causing the freezes

[rustic latch]

I mean - My stuff is optimized best it can be, but generally 50+ actors in combat is something MW is not well equipped to handle

but maybe we can work it out

Alternatively

do your skeletons have unique IDs?

[vocal ibex]

yes

yeah i was thinking if you had a blacklist

[rustic latch]

cool, get me those - we can blacklist them

I do

They will get a much lighter creature script still, instead of the fencer script

but should help

as they won't be making much decisions etc

[vocal ibex]

sch_FVFC1_sc_e1CrMum
sch_FVFC1_sc_e1CrSkel

[rustic latch]

oh ffs. I forgot OAAB data is a fomod

fuck I hate fomods

[vocal ibex]

fo for fuck off

[rustic latch]

got these. Any more that you may spawn in unreasonable quantities?

[vocal ibex]

well

[rustic latch]

Also:

which is it?

[vocal ibex]

skarr

uhh the boss is in the barrow part of the cave

you'll prolly wanna tcl through the walls

you'll see a room with very blue lights

when you get near the statue in the center of the room the boss spawns

[rustic latch]

yup see it

[vocal ibex]

prolly should put these on the blacklist too
sch_FVFC2_cr_BSpec2a
sch_FVFC2_cr_BSpec2b
sch_FVFC2_cr_BSpec4

that's all of em

i will say this parry shit is pretty 🔥 tho ngl

[rustic latch]

Right. Got these, thank you.

Bosses first though. Had to step away, let me see if I can spot anything obvious. Should be easier here than with 5 almalexia's hands

Can you send me the mwscript for the boss in the skarr?

Cause I don't really understand what's going on. When he gets stuck - the control is very much released

n'garde is literally not doing anything to him

except check "still not in weapon stance? cool, carry on"

[vocal ibex]

both of my boss scripts are nuts

lemme get it

[rustic latch]

hmmm

[vocal ibex]

i guess to sum it up, boss rolls dice to determine time between casts, and rolls dice to determine spells, then special events happen at health points

[rustic latch]

Just for posterity -here's his n'garde state object while he's frozen

stance:2 is spellcasting, which means that I don't touch any of the character behaviour or controls. Other importan-ish stuff is isStaggered, isAttacking, isParrying and startedParry - all false, and processing of those doesn't happen in mage stance anyway

[vocal ibex]

haha oh well
probably just two things pulling on the npc and he gets stuck somehow

[rustic latch]

That's the problem innit - I'm not even pulling at him at that moment

getting somewhere though

your sequence is actually simpler than that hands ambush

[inner hare]

50 skeletons isn't the best idea btw 😛

"Battles" like that don't work well in MW although I remember 20 vs 20 even back from 2003-2004 days. Ah, glorious 12 FPS. The game didn't explode, though .

[vocal ibex]

actually it's something like 800 skeletons

[inner hare]

😂

[vocal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-works-for-me-meme-engineering-dvd-gif-27508941

[inner hare]

No wonder people are reporting this

[vocal ibex]

but i don't play with texture mods

rip

[inner hare]

It's not sth you see in MW, that's all. That's why some thought it's a bug.

[vocal ibex]

oh i understand lol

[rustic latch]

[inner hare]

How did you implement scripted combat encounters? Mwscript?

[vocal ibex]

yea they're all mwscript

[inner hare]

Do you have 800 skeletons with holy Todd scripts?

And the game runs?

[vocal ibex]

oh the skeletons don't have scripts on em

just bosses and some of the npcs

oh wait i take that back the skeletons do have scripts

HAHA

but the scripts just make them delete when they die

[inner hare]

[rustic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

500 skeletons

[inner hare]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59080?tab=description

Looks interesting

[rustic latch]

Didn't G7 make something like that very recently?

[inner hare]

No idea

Good for finding items buried somewhere in the modlist

I like these moments. Not Vanilla, not TD, not TR, not OAAB and it turns out that it's an item from some city mod

[rustic latch]

lmao

Alright, @vocal ibex It's late. And testing is proving to be incremental. I'll keep at it tomorrow and will let you know how it goes

[vocal ibex]

hey sleep well, thanks for looking into it! np if it just doesn't work out lol i know my scripts are uhhhh unorthodox

[rustic latch]

It's not even your scripts

something stupid is going on

I'm down to dumbest debugging techniques

so currently - it works with empty onUpdate

and I'm re-enabling it line by line, reloading the game and seeing what happens

Problem is

so far I'm down to only the part this is inside the if is in weapon stance if

which is not fucking active when the mofo freezes

I'll continue tomorrow

but:

[sour cipher]

maybe at least if there are 50 mobs attacking me rn, ngarde should affect just the one / few i'm actively targeting with my weapons?

like maybe pause the scripts altogether on anything that's not actively engaging in combat but is instead trying to merely figure out how to even reach the PC?

getting whacked by the player might be what triggers a more intelligent behavior

if something is hacking away at your literal back it needs no advanced combat ai or mechanics as long as you aren't trying to actually fight back due to it, say, being one of the 50 skeletons that have swarmed you

so some routines could be autopaused for as long as the creature / npc isn't being actively targeted by the player?

[rustic latch]

@young aspen you've played with MULE, right? I see Mort's comment that the issue should be addressed. Do let me know if you can now gain skill progression while parrying

[rustic latch]

So... Mwscript breaks(I think) AI

When N'Garde releases the actor - if it was enforcing self.controls.use - the value gets stuck. This is a problem when that value is 0 - "No Attack". Doesn't seem to happen under normal circumstances, as Actor AI package should and does, immediately update it next frame with whatever it needs.

Not so when an actor has a complex mwscript attached. Then the value just gets stuck at 0 and the fucker just stands there as if tai was enabled in console

[young aspen]

I saw that update, thanks

But also decided to try a different leveling mod that works like the base game

[rustic latch]

Fair

I've tested Mule with N'Garde after I've sent that message - seems to give skill progression on parry correctly

So think all is good

[vocal ibex]

[rustic latch]

You have N'Garde installed?

find fencer.lua
find if becameNotWeaponStance then line
add self.controls.use = 1 below it

[vocal ibex]

Do you think, if i rewrite the npc scripts in lua would that also conflict?

[rustic latch]

I need to also do the same for "became ranged" probably, but that's a touch more involved

but this, while feels hacky as fuck

fixed it on my end

so do try and let me know

[rustic latch]

Depends, but probably not. Mercy which is quite Involved as far as behaviour modification mods go, is fully compatible with N'Garde without any patches from either side

I'm also curious to see how that boss fight will play out with Mercy

but you wouldn't have gotten any reports about that yet since POTI doesn't use it

[vocal ibex]

AYYYYY

bingo

[rustic latch]

yuuup

Now, I'm still very curious why the fuck the value gets stuck

But I'll get the patch out later today or tomorrow. Depends on if I want to ship other changes with it

And thank you for confirming. There was still a chance it won't help

Another way of fixing the same for test purposes is
console -> select the npc -> luas -> self.controls.use = 1 they get immediately unstuck

This fucking bug was a problem for a few months, glad I finally found it

[vocal ibex]

checked it on the other boss too, and he's fixed as well 🥳

woo-hoo

[rustic latch]

Excellent

[vocal ibex]

thanks for all the help, both bosses have pretty high block skill so it'll go good with this mod i think haha

[rustic latch]

The fucker is overtuned to all hell tbh

[vocal ibex]

LOL

[rustic latch]

tribunal levels of hp

Oh

btw

I think you should despawn his shadows when he dies

Cause they stick around

[vocal ibex]

oh yeah that's on my bugfix list

[rustic latch]

And another thing - He seems to summon those twice

I didn't check the actual values

but somehow the second set seems stronger

was I just tripping?

[vocal ibex]

so he randomly summons them based on timer dice rolls, they always show up once, but if he rolls good you might see them 2 or 3 times

but the second set shouldn't be stronger, i'll look into that

[rustic latch]

May be just that it was trickier to time attacks and parries by the end of the fight with a tired character

they got me on the ground several times

[vocal ibex]

he pretty tough 💪

[rustic latch]

Honestly - tougher than Alma and Vivec, which is why I say overtuned

Dunno how the fight would go with an actual high level character with matching gear - but it was annoying on my test toon

Granted - it was 200 in all combat skills and matching stats from NCG, bonemold set and a silver greatsword

So just on stats alone - should've been fine,

[vocal ibex]

ah shit i tested again and now he's getting stuck again 🙁

it happens less often now

[rustic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-muppets-slow-turn-shaking-my-head-shakes-head-gif-13105902

hmmmm

[vocal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[rustic latch]

Does he get unstuck if you do this ^

[vocal ibex]

yeah that fixes it

when he's stuck

[rustic latch]

Ok, so the same issue, just need to make sure he actuall gets the controls "released"

I'll handle that. Main thing is it's not something new

[vocal ibex]

imma look into rewriting some of these scripts in lua too, if that generally causes less conflicts it might be worth it

don't think it'd be too hard for these guys

[rustic latch]

Wouldn't be able to tell you one way or another, for conflicts that is. It seems fine. But then you lose MWSE compat, if you care abou that

Unless you want to write two sets of lua

[vocal ibex]

right that's why i wrote everything in mwscript BUT toddwind isn't handling the mod well generally lol

[rustic latch]

Depends, it's slighly less straightforward than "cast x"

[rustic latch]

500 skeletons

Right. On that note. I need to step away for a couple of hours.

[vocal ibex]

cool, I appreciate the help thanks again

[maiden tangle]

enable_riposte_setting_name: "Aktiviere Konter-Mechanik“
enable_riposte_setting_desc: "Aktiviert einen manuell oder automatisch ausgeführten Konter, wenn ein Angriff in der ersten Hälfte des Zeitfensters beim perfekten Parieren abgewehrt wird. Im manuellen Modus müsst Ihr die linke Maustaste während des Parierens gedrückt halten, damit der Konter ausgelöst wird."

controller_left_trigger: "Linker Abzug“
controller_right_trigger: "Rechter Abzug“
controller_off: "keiner"

fatigue_effects_full: "Mit Ausdauerauswirkungen“
fatigue_effects_partial: "Ausdauerauswirkungen halbiert“
fatigue_effects_off: "Ohne Ausdauerauswirkungen"

parry_creatures_all: "Ja"
parry_creatures_shields: "Nur mit Schilden“
parry_creatures_off: "Nein"

riposte_mechanic_manual: "Manuell"
riposte_mechanic_auto: "Automatisch"
riposte_mechanic_off: "Deaktiviert"

Bitteschön 😁

[rustic latch]

Vielen Dank!

[maiden tangle]

Thanks for those awesome boss fights! Finished playing through the whole mod yesterday.

That 800 undead fight was really funny, as I was running around while trying to not getting surrounded by enemies.
I thought it was fine with the Skeletons still having the parry ability enabled, but I can see why it would be better to have it disabled for the sake of more frames and mowing them down more easily.
The last boss fight worked well for me. The boss only sometimes tried to block with the shield and did a roll (because of the Roll mod I have enabled).
And for the boss for the What lies beneath quest: The parry ability made him harder of course, but also increased the fun of that fight too. Loved the dungeon designs btw. While backtracking, stumbling into a new previously unnoticed passage.

[rustic latch]

Interesting. I wonder why it broadly worked for you, but is obviously broken before the patch for me

the boss fights I mean

Mercy maybe?

Since it would keep messing with AI, after n'garde releases the actor

[maiden tangle]

Could be mercy. I have it enabled

[rustic latch]

yeah, I figured roll doesn't work on NPCs without it

What was your fps for the skeleton fight, btw?

[maiden tangle]

I haven't tested without Devilish Thuum yet, which made those final fights even more dramatic with the shaky camera
But I think it were 20-25 fps, which is fine on my end.

[rustic latch]

And how is that compared to your "normal fps"?

[maiden tangle]

Kinda similar depending on the area I'm walking through. Like 25-30 in Narsis, but 60 in unmodded Molag Amur for example.

[rustic latch]

Interesting

Is that fight part of a quest?

Or just happens somewhere?

Kinda want to test

[maiden tangle]

It is. At the end of the MQ.

[inner hare]

with such a ridiculous number of enemies, isn't an AOE spell or enchantment an obvious answer? Seems pointless to even fight them one by one.

[maiden tangle]

Definitely and you have some followers with you by default (part of the quest). I summoned some Atronachs, but didn't wanted to make the fight too easy by just spamming AOEs, especially since the enemies are not targeting me all the time.
It felt a bit like Dynasty Warrriors sometimes

[hearty scroll]

Semaro fighting litteral hundreads of enemies at once : "I didn't want to make the fight too easy"

[inner hare]

I've never been a fan of such fights 😅 . Definitely prefer it when there are only a few enemies, but they can actually do sth instead of just dying

[rustic latch]

this mod kinda has both

the bosses are imo overtuned, at least the one I've tested, but that fight is quite nice

[inner hare]

I know that there are hard individual bosses

but I wouldn't want to fight 800 skeletons 😂

it's always about balance

[vocal ibex]

ayy a fellow swarm enjoyer! glad you liked it 🙂

my next patch has extremely optimized variants of the swarm creatures so they shouldn't impact fps nearly as much (when i test it's no frame drop even though there's lots)

also i'm tuning the numbers, there will still be a SWARM but it'll be tuned so there aren't like 200 just running into each other, instead should be more like a constant stream for a minute or two

glad the boss worked!

[rustic latch]

(when i test it's no frame drop even though there's lots)
that with N'Garde enabled?

[vocal ibex]

nah the n'garde scripts drop fps by about 10 it seems, but i think once you have those ids blacklisted it should be better

[rustic latch]

Right, I was wondering if I still need to

but let's just say we have agreed it's a "stupid undead swarm" and they can't parry

[vocal ibex]

🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟🧟🧟‍♀️🧟

x200

[tough juniper]

This is like Radan all over again, I want to experience @maiden tangle 's pre-patch madness it sounds dope

[maiden tangle]

Jiup, good comparison
You can also sprinkle some Everdark Libra on top of it, if you have played Nightreign too 😉

[tough juniper]

I haven't yet, I still have yet to get my hands on SotET too someday

[maiden tangle]

Oh yes, I loved the DLC even more than the main game. Such a good atmosphere and visual storytelling

And for the Everdark Libra fight, you can just check some footage if you don’t have problems with spoilers for mechanics. People loved or hated that fight. I really appreciated the chaotic approach by From. Felt like a raid.

[grizzled crane]

Ich glaube selbst in den Beschreibungen wird in Vanilla Ihr/Euer benutzt, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere.

[vocal ibex]

Nightreign bosses are 🔥🔥🔥

[maiden tangle]

Danke fürs drauf hinweisen! Habe „Ihr“ immer in den vorherigen Übersetzung verwendet und es aber dieses Mal anscheinend vergessen 😅
Hab‘s nun in der Nachricht korrigiert.

[maiden tangle]

Could you copy the translated text again? I corrected a short bit. Was about the “you” to “Ihr” thing instead of “du” we talked about in the past.

[rustic latch]

Sure

Btw, I do understand you both, despite the braincogs struggling, but do please keep it in English in here

[grizzled crane]

Sorry, I didn't know how to put this into English. And I didn't want to be petty either, because it basically doesn't matter whether it's Du or Ihr.

[rustic latch]

Nah, it's fine. And I actually know about the "old timey language" they tend to use in period or fantasy media in German

[rustic latch]

Ok. It ain't working out. The bugfix for the casters is in. Manual riposte ain't working right. And I don't like automatic riposte.

[cinder gulch]

Shelve it for another day, imo it takes a certain mental to overcome API gaps and engine features

[rustic latch]

Yeah, I'm leaning screw it

Feels like feature creep anyway

and the sendEvent("Hit") is very ass

It is perfect because it ends here

[wet tendon]

why would you need a riposte if you're going to attack the enemy after they're staggered anyway

[rustic latch]

yup

It was a fun sidequest prompted byt tae's idea

[opaque raptor]

Screw it.
Even if I prefer manual riposte too. But 2 days of work... 🤯 take your time ^^

[rustic latch]

but doesn't really fit

I meant that as a time limit, not that I'd spend 8 hours each day to do it

and no guarantees that I can in a way that I'm satisfied with

currently - it works

[wet tendon]

I think factionPerks handles counterattacking, but I think it only does it when the player is charging the weapon attack for a certain period of time

[rustic latch]

but it breaks so much other stuff that - screw it

[wet tendon]

speaking of hax

[rustic latch]

hm?

damage numbers? Like on hud somewhere?

[wet tendon]

yeah, it's hitkillfeedback, was showing raw damage numbers

[rustic latch]

I mean, cool. If anyone wants it - I know I don't. Don't like floating numbers as a rule

Did you mean this like as a replacement for the healthbar that is not showing up?

that was for riposte anyway

[wet tendon]

what healthbar 🤔

[rustic latch]

Nevermind then

This one - it wouldn't show up when I was doing the counter-attack/riposte thing

[wet tendon]

oh, I wonder if that'd conflict with solthas' mods

[rustic latch]

What did you mean by "hax" then?

[rustic latch]

that's vanilla healthbar...

[wet tendon]

pushing a global variable as a table for nearby.actors to grab current health for that mod was the hax

[rustic latch]

I mean, I see an opportunity for optimization in there :P

But yeah - it's fine. Probably other ways to do it, but probably what would've ended up with too

Ok, yall. Before this one goes up on nexus it is in need of some playtesting:

1.2.9

• blacklisted mass spawning creatures from "Beneath the Permafrost" - Let's be real you weren't going to fence with those anyway, and a good AOE scroll/enchant/spell was the solution anyway. For now let's agree those are dumb undead and can't parry
• Hopefully fixed the "mwscript actor is frozen" issue for scripted boss fights and duels. This specifically affected actors that switched between spell and weapon stance often and were sent "Cast" directive from mwscript
• Parry Animation speed update - 2h weapons slightly faster, 1h weapons slightly slower. h2h 3rd person and 1st person now match and generally slightly slower.
• Interop fields and events
  • attack.ngarde_glancing - set to true when miss is converted into a glancing blows
  • attack.ngarde_perfectParry - set to true on perfect parry
  • attack.ngarde_damageRemainingRatio - 0-1, ratio of remaining damage, 0 is none, 1 is full
  • attack.ngarde_parry - set to true on parry
  • ngarde_parrySelf - player event - event data has { damageRemainingRatio `= float 0..1, isPerfect = bool }
• general code cleanup and optimizations

Too much bullshit between then and now, and I'm not even sure I got everything in the changelog. But specifically - get into some fights and look for any weird behaviour.

And @vocal ibex - try this version with the bosses

And if you play on German or French version of the game, check that settings (the select ones) are displayed correctly in your language

[pastel vine]

I'll start it tonight

Thank you so much for the hardwork