Minimillest Devilish Needs icons collection (v2.07)

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You think that Devilish Needs icons are proper gauges, but they only display 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, or 100%. Here, we display the 5 possible readings more cleanly, with no need to squint at a gauge or even see icons when all of our needs are met:

1. No unmet need = no icon
2. 25% on the gauge = mostly transparent icon
3. 50% on the gauge = less transparent icon
4. 75% on the gauge = opaque icon
5. 100% on the gauge, soon to die = opaque icon with red alert circle

Opaque and circled icons are visual calls to action which really stand out until you address them. The incentives run the right way here -- meet your needs to keep your screen clean.

Thanks to:

• J.R.R.T.
• Gary G.
• Todd H.
• jarizleifr for Basic Needs
• Merlord for Frostwind
• sevenfm for Frostwind Helper
• DetailDevil for Devilish Needs
• OpenMW, MOMW, and MMC communities
• GNU/Linux

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545?tab=images

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1.5 is published in dazzling HD (64x64): https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545

Minimillest Devilish Needs icons

Minimillest Devilish Needs icons HD

[spare kernel]

I like this version 🙂

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Thank you!
What would you change, amigo?

[spare kernel]

The exhaustion icon stands out and isn't intuitive, so probably this. The other ones seem fine.

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Well, here is what I thought. Temperature is a special meter, since it goes up and down, and the cure is always the opposite. We will leave it out for now.

Drink meter: drink icon showing up, better get drink

Exhaustion meter: foot icon showing up, better sleep```
So exhaustion is weird. But when the icon shows up, you need sleep. What is the icon for sleep that has no "Zzzz" in it? Well, night-time sky. Hey! MW has a moon-and-star logo already...

My other inspiration was to have two crescent moons to represent Masser and Secunda.

Oooh! What about crescent Masser and Secunda that wax larger as you become exhausted???

...instead of less transparent, like the others

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🤔

[spare kernel]

Could be cool. Depends if it "fits" the other icons. Currently the exhaustion one is very different from hunger and thirst ones.

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I think it is good that it be a different color, though, would you agree?

Maybe a sun that is gradually eclipsed, or something?

[spare kernel]

That's interesting. It could use similar colours as the others in this case.

Masser and/or Secunda could work as well

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I have food and drink colored the same for design reasons

[spare kernel]

Currently using this version and I like it overall.

This fading icon trick works quite well

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I have to take it back because the gradual eclipse would not play well with the edge of the icon's area on-screen

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I stole the base concept from sevenfm's Frostwind Helper, which was text-based: https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45654?tab=files second file

[spare kernel]

I remember that one.

Icons are better than text. DD had the right idea here.

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I was pretty excited when it came out. Excited to bring something similar to DN. I wouldn't care if DD took my work in wholesale, but I would wait for it to improve further, if I were him

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Best of both is icons that are invisible when the need is not unmet

I would also add that, given the broad variety of UI skins available, these icons should be stylistically neutral in those terms. The hard bronze squareness of the prior DN icons rubbed me wrong

Some ideas for how to depict the exhaustion icon:

• new moon(s) that gradually wax(es) to full
• a stick figure that starts with a sprightly spring in his step and ends up drag-foot and hunched over (this would mean an icon when the need is met, have to scratch it)
• a comfy pillow that fades in (Drarayne would approve!)
• a pair of eyes that goes from bright to lidded (again, displays while need is met, booooo)
• an abstract green (just for the color scheme) energy blob that grows or fades in over time, maybe something like ectoplasm
• gas can that empties (just making sure you are awake! this would never work)
• a tent icon that fades in
• a starfield that fades in, with a bright moon at max need
  Keeping in mind that it must be invisible when the need is met, I would love to hear more ideas.

I'm generally inclined to stick with fade-ins

[vague trench]

a red eye that fades in?

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Oksy...

• an eye-shaped pattern of blootshot veins fading in
• a "dozing" eye depiction that fades in, maybe the iris gets brighter near max need
• like, we can't settle for some clipart of a bed, right???
• what are we gunna dooooo??? ideas

Or, or, or, hear me out, invent some lore about like these gross creepy cockroach/bedbug things that eat your flesh if they can so you and everyone else in Morrowind always have these little cockbug/bedroach catcher-and-killer devices that are quite distinct-looking. So, your icon for needing sleep would be a depiction of that device, since all of the cockbugs and bedroaches must die every time. Plausible!

I just want all potential contributors to know that everything is on the table here

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It is only a friendly challenge and an urge to improve things everywhere when I ask you how you would make it better. I respect your opinion very much. I understand that it's a very niche area of MW modding, but it matters to me, dammit. 😆

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an eye-shaped pattern of bloodshot veins fading in
Something like this could work, if a bit visceral for regular display. Any ideas?

Maybe like some kind of Sauron flame eye orb

But...it just doesn't evoke sleep needs for me

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Seems like phases of Masser could be good for indicating exhaustion -- full moon, gotta sleep soon

@spare kernel what do you think?

[spare kernel]

Looks like an interesting idea

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I think I will go forward with it. It's not going to fade in like the other indicators -- rather, it will wax into fullness

[vague trench]

yeah i like that, moon phases is probably the best way to go with it

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I am going to go SXHD (512x512) with this update, as well

I am cooking and tasting it right now, and I think it's going to be a lot better than moon-and-star

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This may turn out to be an overcommit

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Masser will be

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I got permission from Jacey to use those fine vector icon assets, will make hi-def frost and fire icons look nice

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@spare kernel @vague trench Any feedback on the Masser implementation, guys?

I struggle some with matching the overall brightess and contrast of it, since the Vanilla textures are not consistent between phases

Also, I tried to make 512x512 icons, but they just scaled so horribly

[vague trench]

i like the design but it does stand out a bit next to the others

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I think I am just accepting that. Hunger/thirst vs. exhaustion vs. temperature are each a category of need, in my head-canon

[vague trench]

makes sense

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It's that or come up with a cutesy icon of a bed, but I am resisting that for aesthetic reasons

[vague trench]

haha yeah a bed is the most obvious but just doesnt feel right

[spare kernel]

Maybe lower the contrast a bit or make the icon a bit more faded.

the concept is ok

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Good feedback, thanks

[spare kernel]

yeah I think that if the red colour isn't as bright it should be ok. Notice that every other icon has some fading effect

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Aye, phasing in is distinct from fading in, to be sure. Thanks again

I suppose I could just fade it in, but I wanted to try the phases since it is a moon after all

[spare kernel]

phases are ok. Still, some amount of fading may help with making the icon more subtle

just make sure that slight exhaustion is still visible

[spare kernel]

you know, tent icon probably wouldn't be a bad choice. I'm not saying that it should be the only option. You can have variants, right? Just saying 🙂

https://images.uesp.net/5/5b/Secunda_full.jpg you can also consider Secunda as its colours are more neutral

food for thought

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I balked at the concept just because sometimes you sleep inside in a bed, and sometimes out in a tent

[spare kernel]

and sometimes you eat eggs instead of drumsticks

these icons are abstract 😄

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Touche haha

[spare kernel]

Very nice!

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I decided I like the non-temperature needs sharing a color scheme

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Updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545

I am considering actually using it to play the game for once 😅

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I'm a little bit more than a little bit colorblind, and I suspect that the blue I used for cold is not as intense or as visible as the red I used for heat. Any feedback?

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Some discussion about the mod has taken place in #showcase message

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illest503

Minimillest Devilish Needs icons HD was updated. Tent for indicating exhaustion in place of moon-and-star. https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545

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Linked by @​illest503 from #showcase · Oct 7, 2025, 1:11 AM

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@haughty sable We are going to offer some stylistic options in subdirectories in this mod, and 1.0-style temperature icons will be brought into the HD (64x64) age

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Neat

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...maybe haha

It really needs to just be done correctly for the ages and have 00 Core and all that

There is room for imagining an icicle that turns into an iceberg, and a wee flame that turns into a bonfire. 4x the work but perhaps worth it?

I am overall pretty okay with the illustration style of the first 3 needs, though I note that the tent tint is a bit off from meat and grog. Maybe that's okay.

There is an inconsistency in the density of the three as well, but that I just chalk up to the limits of my sources for images. I think temperature needs something, but I'm not 💯 what it is

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And then have the amount of bars below the icon dictate the magnitude of the effect

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The thing for me is that is just so crisp and obtrusive

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This is what BOTW does

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They are organic needs, so I lean that way in the aesthestics

Could you please post the progression image you posted in #showcase?

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which one

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I got it

I just think that when you are on hour 200 with these icons, you will want something subtler

Also, a major theme here is that met needs display 0% icon

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I also wish to recognize that I have a huge mouse cursor, for my breed, at least

Guess I lost ya, @torn drum

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Thanks to:

• J.R.R.T.
• Gary G.
• Todd H. - I may have meant Michael K. here, oops
• jarizleifr for Basic Needs, and Merlord for Frostwind - helping us ghetto OpenMW survival survivors get by since long-time
• sevenfm for Frostwind Helper - this is where the idea of "no indicators for needs that have been met" comes from
• DetailDevil for Devilish Needs - clever integration of existing works and advanced development with promise for the future
• Nutszake for HD Icons for Devilish Needs - the script changes I needed to not figure out on my own
• JaceyS for Vector Icons and permission to use them - the fire and frost shapes
• dubiousnpc and Cybvep on OpenMW Discord for discussion of this mod
• Onkija who made Colored Icons for Devilish Needs, offered to share vector graphics, and now uses this mod
• OpenMW, MOMW, and MMC communities - this wouldn't be here otherwise
• GNU/Linux - Linus isn't great at pool and seemed to guard many secrets; Stallman is one of my favorite kooks

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my b, I started watching Naruto and got distracted

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You have yet to fall out of my good graces, amigo

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Might as well ask everyone in here which style they prefer, the fade or the icon being a bar

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Too bad no surveys on Discord. I will just make 00 01 etc. directories so users of this mod have every option

• 00 Core //just the blank icons, for fully-met needs
• 01 Hunger - turkey leg fades in
• 02 Thirst - beer mug fades in
• 03 Exhaustion - tent fades in
• 03 Exhaustion - Moon-and-Star fades in
• 03 Exhaustion - Masser waxes to full
• 03 Exhaustion - candle burns down and out (inverted scale)
• 04 Temperature - Vanilla frost and fire symbols
• 04 Temperature - Usability cold and heat symbols
• 04 Temperature - icebergs to icicles to flames to bonfires

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https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

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I am about sick of you using that meme and wish I could delete it here. Please do not come here meming my shit up

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We just stopped interacting, congratulations

Saw you Chop a lot of people off pretty hard, not into it. Good luck

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GTFO already

I tried to be kind and you are done

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https://tenor.com/view/mgs-metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-kazuhira-miller-gif-21017959

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I am aiming for resonable discussions here, and you have been reported for your misdeeds

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Calm down son it's only a drawing

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It was out of line to meme again after I said it was garbage

It's like the lowest form of expression. Use your damned words

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I can't tell if you're trolling or actually crashing out

Either way this is deeply funny

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As you wish. ELSEWHERE

Screengrab and post it for updoots for all I care

I cannot count your posts as contributions here

There was a moment there...

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Anyways, Discord has polls

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This seems constructive, and I thank you for offering it. I'm more of a mind to dictate what I want, and let users adapt the work to their needs, since no rights are reserved

[spare kernel]

This is good IMO. Obviously having 999999 of them would be overkill, but what you have here is nice. Icon preferences are subjective and you made them already (moon and star, tent, moon etc.), so no reason not to give the players the ability to pick and choose.

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Options look great! I regret I didn't have a lot of time to contribute ideas. I found some good tent logos that looked fitting, so I'll probably be going for that option personally, do you have example of the flame-bonfire transitions?

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the flame-bonfire transitions
Just a brain-seed at this point, a lot of fiddling I wouldn't do unless there is interest or I want it myself. I'd be curious to see your choice of tent icons, though.

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Onkija (creator of Colored Icons for Devilish Needs, using this mod now) and I are corresponding via Nexus, and they sent over their temperature icons with a request to include them as an option, and I will do it. Any feedback on their approach?

I had actually been considering duo-tone for fire and frost

To me, the snowflake is a bit busy for my needs, and the flame borderline

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yeah for agreed, but the general design isnt bad, i like the idea of the colour kind growing on the icicle. please excuse the hasty 10 second ps job just to illustarte my idea

something like that could be interesting like the way ice actualy grows in microscope

and yeah my tent was gonna be pretty similar

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💯 and this is the direction I was thinking of for "iceberg-to-icicle-to-flame-to-bonfire"

I think the "folder options" update might need to include a left-handed turkey leg and beer 😆

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heres a better example of what i mean

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I think I would also use transparency to ease it into indication

[vague trench]

oh yeh this has the layers and transparency if you like that feel free to take and edit, i could probably do it a bit cleaner if nesecary, not sure whats required, or how it would look ingame

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Make me a fire one 😁

I will credit you and include it as an option

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lol yeah ill give it a go. no promise on the outcome though because fire is hard..

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There is also the consideration of how the icons will look at 64x64

^ This one looks pretty good IMO

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ah yes i always forget about the sizing. its not bad in fairness

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I think that blue-toward-white and red-toward-red-and-yellow might be good for temperature icons

[vague trench]

whew! that was an intense rabbit hole. fire is indeed hard😅 . i think i came up with something that im actually happy with though. i might just have been staring at the pixels too long so feedback is welcome

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Aw, dude, you are too good for doing it!

On first glance, I think the sizes are not different enough, but with fading-in, the small one(s) won't pop too hard. This can probably be what I end up using for my own play

You surely topped my chops with this effort. Get ready to be a star in the credits of this icon replacer mod for a niche survival mod for a niche game engine 😉

I think also that the massive contrast between fire and ice, specifically in the shapes and manners of indication-growth are fucking

It is 💯 appropos that the smaller fire is redder, and the smaller snowflake is bluer ❤️ 🫂 🎉

I just wish we had "inflection" or "tangent" indicators to depict when indicators are rapidly rising or falling

I also appreciate the attention you paid to the relative visual coverage

It's all just super CHIM and I am so grateful

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haha sweet now we just need to wait for the cheques and groupies to start flooding in

no worries dude, im glad to be of help and ive been needing get the rust off with photoshop. its awesome that you dig it

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FUCK YEAH bro, if you want, I can kick down some of the 9 endorsements I got

[vague trench]

you're too kind sejro

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its awesome that you dig it
If we are going to do something trivial, we certainly aren't going to half-ass it!!

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damn straight haha

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Build it for the future, and let the future generations wonder

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*you're

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The scripts in this overwrite the latest update of devilish needs which removed the updateAll() btw

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Oh shit TY will fix

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Okay, yeah, so I dug out and dusted off my Alphasmart Neo, and stole a printer cable from the neighbor. So here is an update.

There will be folders with options, including community contributions, and updated to the non-updateAll scripts from newer Devilish Needs. This will happen after a real keyboard arrives.

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Keep myself honest, at least 🙂

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545?tab=bugs

[spare kernel]

I got a bug with your version, i.e. resting didn't lower tiredness. When I reverted to standard DD the problem didn't appear again. If it were only icons then that would have no effect but you also change scripts. Maybe there is an issue here.

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This is strange because resting cures exhaustion for me. At any rate, I will be updating the scripts to current DN and writing some instructions for how to modify any new DN releases to accommodate the larger icons.

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Oh man I've been wrecking my head for two days trying to get the code working for Camping Gear.. I thought it was my fault the resting wasn't working..🤣 😂😭 😅

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Oof. 🙁 You can probably affect a fix by editing the showIcon?.lua files from the latest DN to have
resource = ui.texture { path = texturePath, offset = util.vector2(0,0), size = util.vector2(64,64) }, in place of
resource = ui.texture { path = texturePath, offset = util.vector2(0,0), size = util.vector2(32,32) },

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Oh cool thank you, I'll have a look when I'm at my PC later, what would that do? Im very green with coding

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It makes DN read in the entire 64x64 icon, instead of just the top left quarter

It is necessary for "HD" icons

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Nah my icons are fine, I was trying to patch the mod Camping Gear to run smoothly with DN but my rest mechanics were bugged so I was going in circles lol it was just when Cybvep mentioned it I realized my mistake, no big deal

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I fixed the wrong problem, my bad

[vague trench]

All good, no worries. It's a relief to figure it out. Making progress again 👌😎👍

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Version 2.0 beta (file removed, 2.0 is released)

• tent color fix
• new waxing Masser exhaustion icon (2 versions)
• moon-and-star exhaustion icon updated to HD
• new temperature icons contributed by Ojinka and Dubious
• updated to latest (v1.5) Devilish Needs scripts to include ui.update fix
• screenshots folder for preview images

If anyone is willing to give it a look-over or test it, I'd be grateful.

I note that I forgot the lefty victuals, will do that before release

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Lefty victuals are in

[vague trench]

congrats dude! im sorry to say i couldnt help but switch to Sun's Dusk so that could be why but its not working for me, i switched off all the devilish stuff and went and stood over lava, it was apearring and disapearing its probably dn conflicting rather than yours but idk. it looks good though! sorry not very helpful😅 🤷

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That's all good, I'm pretty sure it's good to go. Kinda hard to mess up even without testing every option

Looking at the velothi icons for SD, I am not too motivated to make my own icon set 😉 daedric ones are sweet too

I haven't played for some time myself, but it will be with SD when I do again

[vague trench]

yeah its pretty smooth, maybe when they implement temp we can come back to it 😂

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Oh, I will just use DN for temp still, with the other needs disabled

...so I am stoked to have your icons as an option for that

[spare kernel]

I'm on DD, def interested in those icons

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You have them above. That there beta is almost definitely the release

[spare kernel]

Will try these out

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The readme has info for how to modify DN scripts for 64x64 icons, or you can use the included scripts in 00 Core

[spare kernel]

Seems to be working in a quick dirty test 👍🏻

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This looks fixed, then? 🙏

[spare kernel]

yeah, script changes probably did it

I will be keeping this one

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Noice, thank ya 🙂

[spare kernel]

will give you a call if sth bad happens

but seems to be ok so far

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Love it buddy

[spare kernel]

don't want to change to SD mid-game tbh

DD is too big of a mod

will try SD next time

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I will honestly probably actually wait until SD is a little more cooked. I really like where it's going

[spare kernel]

yeah, there is time

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Would be a shame to make this and never use it haha

[spare kernel]

Morrowind is eternal

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Almsivi in every hour.

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Minimillest Devilish Needs icons collection (2.0)

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https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545

[spare kernel]

Enjoying those icons. You cooked ☺️

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Ayyy broseph, stopppp! Screenie of your chosen icons? TGM and stand around for us so we can see

[spare kernel]

I use the "core" ones

everything working ok

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I wonder if you will dig my far out style on the background icons for inventory: https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57639

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Right on. I did have a last-minute fix that I sniped right in there, seemingly before any DLs

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But it was graphical and minor

[spare kernel]

the only thing I noticed is that sometimes when the game is loading a cell or saving then the icon gets fully bright (no transparency). It is not a real issue, though. It's probably just some technical stuff.

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I wonder if DN also shows a different icon in this scenario, or if it is just a quirk of how OpenMW handles the alpha channel

[spare kernel]

if we only had issues like that, it would be a perfect world 😄

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I hope it won't interfere with your enjoyment haha

[spare kernel]

I saw this mod. Seems that you are busy. However, this one I won't be using because I don't need those circles around the equipped items. BTW it seems to me that you like making icons. Maybe if mym decides to expand Fresh Loot to cover scrolls in the future, you could help with unique icons? Dunno. Just a thought I had after seeing how busy you are with those icons 😄

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I hate it but someone has to do it

The background icons are quite um artistic or whatever. I just like to break up the grid a bit and have both shape and color to differentiate

[spare kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-philosophy-philosophical-choices-will-difficult-marvel-gif-16615025

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The Potions and Scrolls icons mod (of which Setty has a mashup) needs to be updated to 128px

Seems that you are busy.
Ha! Those barter/equip/magic icons sat around for a month or so waiting for some attention to a few details before I just shipped them as-is because I wanted feedback. Pretty sure those are not for everyone, and probably not a permanent solution for me, either, but I liked where I was going with it, if I can say so myself 😉

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https://discord.com/channels/260439894298460160/1428968957699948554

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Minimillest Devilish Needs icons collection HD has been updated to 2.02 on Nexus, with Onkija's intended icons:
2.02: an update to Onkija icons, 2.0 download removed

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I'm not saying it's a great icon, but it is non-alcoholic!

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Throw it on the pile, then

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Version 2.07

• new non-alcoholic thirst icon by illest
  https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57545?tab=files

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Minimillest Devilish Needs icons collection (2.07)

Minimillest Devilish Needs icons collection (v2.07)

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https://discord.com/channels/260439894298460160/1328136202041163886

Oh Mr. Chop, everyone is free to pee or poo anywhere...why would you choose to do it here?