Dumb mod ideas But Actually We Post Good Mod Ideas

[misty geyser]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56459

this has all of that but also some bugs @celest blaze , maybe now is the time to revisit the idea

[celest blaze]

Most definitely

Patch with the skyships mod or some type of merger

[pearl furnace]

thanks! i hate it

[vernal dome]

I can think of more stuff like this if you'd like 🙂

[misty geyser]

replace all the dialogue lines with anime surprised gasping

[pearl furnace]

please… do… 😭

it's the dumb mod ideas thread so i'm legally obligated to encourage this kind of thing

[celest blaze]

Collision reactions for walking past npcs

Goblin thief type of creature that jumps out of chest and steals some of your items and you have to chase them to get it back

Cursed tombs but other dungeon types

LOOTMIDGETS

[bleak star]

Is this channel for requesting suggesting mods?

Id like to see no collision on followers. They constantly get in in the way.

[vernal dome]

A dnd party goblin that shows up in seyda neen called "foblin the goblin" and follows you around making whedon-esque quips.

The true master of both the morag tong and the dark brotherhood who controls both.
He is a vampire and dual wields katanas.

A rewrite of the tribunal main quest where you have the option to bring up almalexia's feet at every stage of the questline.

If you take foblin the goblin with you he's the one who gets every guild promotion and rank due to a series of hilarious misunderstandings where everyone thinks you're his sidekick
Naturally this is a compatibility nightmare

[narrow niche]

Mod idea courtesy of the VS Code autofill

[hollow zenith]

A mod that lets you pet the goats! 🐐

[vernal dome]

An isekai mod where you start off in the real world (could use emba-5 for this) and then die and are reborn as a character in morrowind with a choice of various incredibly powerful boons.

[turbid minnow]

do we have any fat npc models yet?

Thinking that there would be a unspoken dynamic in senior Telvanni circles - as wizards who are presumably always floating and never exercising physically they should put on weight easily and how this relates to an aesthetic that privileges the traditional Dunmer lean typing

accusations that any fat Telvanni lord is corrupted by western/imperial culture

[fickle crown]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-harkonnen-arena-baron-vladimir-harkonnen-gif-13782135413706216311

[visual flume]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53390

[misty geyser]

the true peak of morrowind

[willow ore]

So speaking of. I read a great article on the Baron.

He is one of the more obvious examples of portraying gay characters as diseased and truly despicable in media.

Especially in older media.

Still one of my fav bad guys. What a bastage. Completely irredeemable.

[fickle crown]

He was "diseased" only in old Dune movie, I think.

[serene mulch]

garak is a quark-type character. more chaotic good i think or at least neutral

he did do some evil shit, but there's also stuff that implies he did good things later on that resulted in his exile

[fickle crown]

Also, Baron was a pedo in the book. True psycho all around. Cunning psycho, though.

The twist was about his daughter.

[willow ore]

Yeah. He was a pedo, gay and caught the disease from raping a Bene Geserit.

Also a sociopath. Dude was legit bad.

They tied all that in one neat little knot. Had he just been less gay and rapisty he wouldn’t be diseased.

Definitely early to current tropes.

And Garak is awesome.

[serene mulch]

he also literally murders a whole ship of romulans at one point later on so lol he's a complex character

[turbid minnow]

well the 60s had both the Lavender Scare (anti-gay hysteria) running paralell to the red-scare (anti-commie) hysteria - so naming your psycho flamboyant gay-coded pederast baddie Vladimir Harkonnen is just Herbert pushing all the buttons to see what happens

[serene mulch]

sisko is an accomplice in that murder, but you'd never describe him as evil

idk

[misty geyser]

The worst sisko gets is chaotic neutral

[turbid minnow]

mod that adds all the readmes of your installed mods into an in game library

[queen timber]

and the mod only works if you've read the readme

[steep sundial]

Your mod includes random changes to dialogue and lore

[queen timber]

please don't attack my sloppy edits like this

[steep sundial]

I was thinking more about spreading your personal lore to others

"It's in the game, I swear"

[narrow niche]

Maybe then could we get TR_preview back

[turbid minnow]

I want to do this - various tweaks to dialogue, probably quest dialogue, according to various metrics after certain events, etc

[weary ravine]

We need a romance mod to capture the VN audience

[visual flume]

Vietnam audience? I'd suggest a mod about Akaviri invasion, where you get to play as a guerilla, instead.

[lone pagoda]

disposing a corpse deletes any items in it

[willow ore]

I thought it gives them to you?

Oh YES! That would be asome

Not a dumb mod idea at all.

[willow ore]

I'd d'l it in a heart beat.

[narrow niche]

Or at least just drops them on the ground

[willow ore]

I'd prefer deletion. The ongoing myth of inevitable savegame bloat is a spctre not far from my mind.

[pearl furnace]

items disappear from your savefile when the corpse despawns

^ not a mod idea, a statement of fact

[narrow niche]

Yeah fair point. It would have to account for quest items

[willow ore]

So if I just leave a corpse, that ahs some baseline armour I don't ned and walk off, it just desapwns with no ill onsequences?

[pearl furnace]

yeah

[willow ore]

Phew.

Lot less iron armor to lug around.

[pearl furnace]

morrowind has no FormIDs so items in inventories have no existence other than as a tally mark in a list of ids

there is also no filesize difference between a chest with 1 of an item and a chest with a stack of 5000000 of that item

is this a thing in later games? save file size bloat from stuff left on corpses?

[willow ore]

No clue. It used ot be in OG Morrowind.

[pearl furnace]

everybody cheats the boots of blinding speed to nullify their downside, so i think the dumbest way to balance this out is to give them some other downside which is bad enough that the player feels it but not quite so bad that they cheat their way out of it. in that spirit, i propose: the Boots of Annoying Noise

[willow ore]

What is the downside?

Never used 'em.

[pearl furnace]

the enchantment is constant effect Fortify Speed 200 pts and Blind 100 pts

[willow ore]

LOL! Love the blind.

[pearl furnace]

the Boots of Annoying Noise still have the blind effect, for vanilla parity, but in addition to that they play a squeaky shoe sound effect about 40% of the time when you take a step

[vernal dome]

Could you replace the model with clown shoes

[celest blaze]

World events or dynamic area events, moment to moment bosses or event based quest progression

Depending on the cell and general area of the player, level, major skills, guild or temple alignment, there can be a timer to complete the general tasks, find a special item, hunt a specific beast, pledge a tomb, beat some bandits

[vernal dome]

Reporting Caius to the guard for skooma possession and they arrest him

[turbid minnow]

Speaking of - noise should be more of an issue. It's super underused in the game.
To make it more of a problem:

• More common attack, from animals and hedge wizards
• Make it uncurable and permanent (kinda like tinnitus) unless seen by Temple healer
• When afflicted by noise, spells don't work (though maybe this should be a sliding magnitude) but also - anything governed by Intelligence doesn't work (Alchemy, Enchant and Security checks)
• Obviously sneaking is not good if you can't hear how loud you are
• Major debuffs to other actions which require a success condition (smithing)
• Personality debuff because you are constantly irritated by the noise
• Speechcraft debuff because you find it hard to hear what anyone is saying
• Mercantile decrease because it's hard to concentrate on haggling

[thick jackal]

When afflicted by noise, spells don't work (though maybe this should be a sliding magnitude) but also - anything governed by Intelligence doesn't work (Alchemy, Enchant and Security checks)
Spellcasting chance from noise is base game feature though. Scripts can even do negative noise for a flat + to cast chance

[turbid minnow]

Ah how does negative noise work?

[thick jackal]

Flat bonus percent to casting chance of all spells. -100 noise will mean you'll never fail. Not possible ingame, only via scripts

[fickle crown]

What do you mean by "noise"? Is that the "Sound" spell effect? If that's the case, then it already affects spellcasting by its magnitude without stopping it entirely like Silence does.

[thick jackal]

Oh, yeah. Sound that's what I was talking about

[fickle crown]

I don't know why it should be caused by animal attacks and be permanent. That sounds weird. If it's some curse or disease effect that affects concentration then ok. If somebody implements long-lasting player injuries, then Sound would be good as one of the effects of a Head injury.

[vernal dome]

Sound is really annoying and if it was something you'd need to get fixed at a temple I would probably just turn off my headphones when I get it.

[thick jackal]

Replacing a sound file is an option, but yeah

[vernal dome]

Having strange creatures give more varied negative player effects could be cool.

Temporary slowing from webs or slime. Curse of ra turns off regeneration.

[misty geyser]

Does it actually make a sound?

[thick jackal]

The sound spell? Very much does

When you are affected that is

[misty geyser]

What does it sound like? I think that may have been tripping me out a few times 😅 I get terrible tinitus so I often miss stuff like that

[misty geyser]

Ohhhh

That explains a lot

😅 I hate that sound so much

[woven salmon]

Mod that makes Caius one of the few people who will actually buy Skooma

[misty geyser]

You have to get him Skooma to unlock duties

More each time

[vernal dome]

There is a CE item in TR that has sound as a negative effect and i put it on for a few seconds before realising there was no effect that would be worth it lol

[misty geyser]

Fr

[woven salmon]

That makes him getting recalled hilarious

[thick jackal]

Moonlight has it on some of the birhsigns. Iirc negative on some for pure plus casting chance. They overwrite the file with a silent one though

[misty geyser]

Yeah Im gonna do that for sure, thanks for the tip I'll just pinch that one

[misty geyser]

It's like Training day "your in the blades now son"

[woven salmon]

You know how I'm working on pure lua text to speech implementation?
Hear me out... Dwemer Speak-and-Spell.

[misty geyser]

Would you like to play a game🤖

[woven salmon]

Good old WOPR

[misty geyser]

Got to bring back Microsoft Sam. The peak of ai technology

[woven salmon]

You enter a large chamber in a Dwemer ruin and it's just the final boss fight of Portal 1 with that voice.

[misty geyser]

KagreMAC

[woven salmon]

The biggest hangup with lua TTS is timing. It's difficult to get the samples to line up properly without gaps or overlap.

Which has led to some... interesting sounds

[misty geyser]

It wouldn't be a Bethesda game without strangely paced dialogue

[woven salmon]

Strange pacing is an understatement when you're reading off diphones, which actually need to overlap.
"Hello world" becomes:
he-el-ll-lo. wo-or-rl-ld.

[turbid minnow]

Animal/creature whatever, it feels like a pretty cheap but potent curse. The more annoying it is the more necessary it is to build in countermeasures or come prepared. But the point stands I think it's very underutilised as a mechanic

[misty geyser]

Mechanically, yes I agree. There's a lot you could do with it. Is it possible to have an ambient magical effect on an area?

[fickle crown]

I think I got sth like that in a Sheogorath shrine

5-10 pts Souds ability or sth

This was a shrine with Adamantium Helmet from the official plugin IIRC and while using the EV modlist.

[turbid minnow]

That's quite cool

[steep sundial]

I'm still not happy with the Sixth House but it's also tricky to approach them

They're complicated and yet underdeveloped

I think the biggest issue I have is the heart chamber

You don't construct a god like that, especially not "standing in lava" which is just peak stupidity

also, where are the workers and logistics for this construction

[vernal dome]

In the rest of dagoth ur, or maybe dagoth does it himself

He is a wizard and seems to spend most of his time on this

The heart chamber and dagoth ur boss fight are huge let downs

[narrow niche]

A.B.C improves it a bit but some of those issues you have are still present lol

[steep sundial]

I'd also prefer it if the Ash vampires respawned in the heart chamber (or at least "are respawning")

because that's like one of the most unique features of the Sixth House elite

they are immortal

[narrow niche]

Like the various dagoths that you kill prior to the end?

[steep sundial]

yes, according to lore they are heartbound and will respawn in the heart chamber

[narrow niche]

That doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement as a mod

[steep sundial]

No, but I think there is so much more that needs to be done

Like an organized effort of building a god with cranes, workers, platforms

logistics

that's much more difficult

perhaps they'll partially use the tools the dwemer used to build the numidium

I'd image the Dwemer created some cranes to construct their brass god

none of this is in the game or available as an asset

and probably it'd be a better idea to construct someone lying on the floor instead of standing

[vernal dome]

People have discussed the ash vampire respawning

[fickle crown]

There is no set respawn timer for them in the lore that we know of but if you made them respawn in the Chamber and that's it, that would be legit bad. It would be more optimal to ignore all ash vampires rather than eliminate them (which supposedly weakens Dagoth Ur).

[narrow niche]

Devilish Akulakhan when?

Devilish Sixth House Overhaul

[fickle crown]

Hard to call it a boss fight in Vanilla. So easy. In OG Morrowind he was also falling into lava often which was just lol. Not sure how common it is nowadays.

[vernal dome]

Lol yeah

Definitely held up by dialogue

[narrow niche]

There’s a mod that makes it like 10x better

[steep sundial]

I called it off for the time being. If the project is too big, I just don't get anywhere

it's easier to create one to three day projects

[narrow niche]

Yeah fair

[steep sundial]

It's not satisfying to work, come back home and work some more

if you can't see results fast

[narrow niche]

Yeah I feel that

[vernal dome]

Onto dumb mod ideas:

Replacing speechcraft with Looksmaxxing, intimidate is renamed "mogg", admire is renamed "jestermax".
There would also be bone smashing and mewing lesser powers

[narrow niche]

That’s why my mod page is just a bunch of tiny mods lol

[narrow niche]

Mods ban this person

[narrow niche]

You’d need to combine this with one of those face mods that makes everyone look like a model lmao

Use Sunder to bone smash

[vernal dome]

If you lose too much fatigue or health too quickly you get a "cortisol spike" debuff.

[narrow niche]

Add this to Sun’s Dusk

[vernal dome]

"We will use sunder to bone smash" is the sort of line you'd find in a sixth house discarded note

[narrow niche]

Dagoth Clav

[fickle crown]

You are close to an idea which would actually be good, i.e. injuries

[vernal dome]

Injuries can be cool yes

[narrow niche]

I think that exists already

[vernal dome]

I like the way the 3d fallout games do it

[narrow niche]

I still want “Elemental Effects” in openMW tho

[vernal dome]

With limb based damage and tactical crippling

[steep sundial]

Fallout New Vegas crippling system

[narrow niche]

It’s kind of wild that Skyrim didn’t incorporate the bodily injury thing from fallout

Especially in a game with swords

[steep sundial]

better yet, permanent disabilities. So over your playthrough you accumulate injuries

[fickle crown]

Curved swords

[vernal dome]

Yeah, i play with mods that add stuff like that back in and it's cool

[narrow niche]

I’m sure it’s a lot more complicated than “just adding it” but I feel like it would make sense to have that in TES

[fickle crown]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[steep sundial]

imagine limping as on old man who has been in too many battles

[narrow niche]

Then someone would have to make ADACCOM

(ADA Compliant Cities of Morrowind)

[narrow niche]

That would be kinda cool

[steep sundial]

just levitate

[narrow niche]

Dynamic scarring would also be cool

Instead of just picking permanent ones on the character create screen

[steep sundial]

I'd also prefer it if injuries were more serious instead of "chuck a potion and you're fine"

Fights are a matter of life and death

and they have long term consequences

and there shouldn't be so many of them

so that they are memorable

[pearl furnace]

DD i have a dumb mod idea for how to fix the lava pool with the power of lore!!! there are 3 Dreamers working in Akulakhan's Chamber. if you sneak up on them, you should be able to overhear a conversation between them about how annoying it is that the lava level recently rose and flooded the area around the Akulakhan's feet. how are they supposed to put the finishing touches on those parts of it now??

[fickle crown]

That's why there would be injuries. Not just HP dmg and poof, done. Injuries would last longer. Some would have permanent debuffs.

[thick jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/fantatstic-storyteller-ron-howard-68whiskey-storytelling-amused-gif-16448747

[steep sundial]

I know I have said this a million times but fights should be rare, there should be a good reason for fighting and the fights should be memorable

and they should be dangerous, especially if you are outnumbered. Even a great fighter will lose if they are up against three mediocre fighters.

So, there should be some planning and strategy before engaging. Conjure your summon, order a mercenary, mark a location to teleport to

[narrow niche]

Just out of curiosity, what mods do you use to get closer to this

[fickle crown]

Meanwhile the actual convo: - I saw mudcrab the other day. - I've heard others say the same. - Indeed. - Goodbye.

[steep sundial]

Mercy Combat overhaul introduces forfeiting. The other aspects I'd need to work on myself

Mercy is definitely a good mod that makes combat scenarios more realistic

[pearl furnace]

i have heard tell that not all is well in the land of the dark elves

[misty geyser]

you could add all the scientists dialogue from half-life to the enemies there

[balmy violet]

Mod where you play as Dagoth Ur himself

a twist - you can only walk around that cave and dwemer base of yours

another twist - its a dating sim

(Yes you can date nerevar)

[pearl furnace]

that won't be possible until openmw 1.0

[balmy violet]

but you have to attract their attention with thoughfull gifts and blight zombies

[balmy violet]

we have hope

[turbid minnow]

I had a playthrough in Skyrim where I raised difficulty to max and used a mod to increase lethality of destruction magic/explosion radius of fireballs, etc so basically every ice spear/fireball/lightning bolt was a 1hkill. Was pretty enjoyable, made for some totally nuts close quarters wizard battles.

But it's how I would imagine getting a fireball to the face to actually pan out.

Historically accurate to make melee weapon combat similar. Principle s from Kendo are relevant here - one bonk on the head - you're out.

we've had stormrider - maybe we can get island rider - the proof of concept has already been done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJsIOXOVOE

(if you don't know the cartoon, the polar bear is the ruler of the island and he drives the island around the ocean by funnelling the power of the volcano via a complicated series of bamboo hydraulic pipes. well it made sense when I was a child)

[misty geyser]

i'm Rocko

[fervent frost]

Mod that replaces sound.wav with some ASMR sample

[pearl furnace]

mod that renames Silence to Dumb

[turbid minnow]

I know group combat scenarios is still not really a thing - but always wanted to see some guards adopt the Sardaukar fighting style when surrounded

[balmy violet]

An invisible fargoth constantly follow you every where you go. You can only occassionally hear his faint breath right by you ear

[prime plover]

Something like the ghostfence except instead of a glowing magical shield that surrounds Red Mountain, it's a wall of dense mist or fog in the Inner Sea between Vvardenfell and the rest of Morrowind.

Not for any practical reason, just to make the Inner Sea seem less comically small when playing with Distand Lands and Tamriel Rebuilt. It's barely a major river by real-world standards.

[fickle crown]

Items with constant effects have charges which are slowly depleted if these items are equipped. They no longer work if charges are depleted. An option to blacklist items if sth needs to be special.

[willow ore]

Ooooh. Like “the soul escaping” or some such.

I like that one.

[narrow niche]

Ghostbusting mod: the only way to kill ghosts is to soul trap them

[lone pagoda]

A mod that allows you to add your own soundtracks along with the vanilla one

[autumn girder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56836

[weary ravine]

guar

[pearl furnace]

that's it, that's the mod idea

and boy do i have good news!

[balmy violet]

your idea is not dumb enough 🙂

[fickle crown]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[thick jackal]

No, no. That's the "but actually good" part

[fickle crown]

😄

[thick jackal]

I wouldn't play with that, (unless there was a recharge mechanic) but someone might like it

[fickle crown]

There could be a recharge mechanic, np.

Conceptually, I mean.

[thick jackal]

ye

[balmy violet]

You can become a housewife, you lose all your combat skills but get household-related skills

[misty geyser]

LOSE combat skills? hmm not very realistic

amiright fells

[balmy violet]

twist: Its an actually wholesome and genuine story about relationshipsl, attraction, love, sacrifice, values and a human soul

[balmy violet]

haha

you can also date fargoth ofcourse

[misty geyser]

naturally

thats the endgoal of all of this

[balmy violet]

a trauma-porn fargoth dating simulator

fargoth is very lonely and everyone in the village despises him, every time the boat arrives he greets newcommers hoping to finally find some real human warmth and acceptance

you use a healing ring to propose to fargoth, which symbolically heals his broken heart

[misty geyser]

turns out Hrisskar puts the ring in the barrel because he just wants to see the little guy find love. the big twist is that it was he who truly loved him all along. you have to decide betwwen a life with fargoth but Hrisskar hurls hismself from Karthag point or save his life but doom yourself to eternal loneliness

[steep sundial]

I still have this concept collecting dust of "Touch of Madness" where imaginary things happen when you are on drugs such as skooma

Tiny wizards, talking animals, Sheogorath, bad hallucinations such as sounds, shadows, insects, creepy, funny things. Humans making animal noises and vice versa

[thick jackal]

And those effects you've just posted in #screenshots

[steep sundial]

Yes

the effect is already quite awesome and I could imagine being Sheogorath's champion wandering inbetweeen realms of varying madness

Mind you, I also have my Wabbajack mod lying around

Inpredictibiltiy is a great source of fun

Maybe the Wabbjack is more effective when you are high on Skooma

I already have a partially written quest mod about a tiny wizard and mind mage, meddling with the minds of the Old Ebonheart mages guild

He disappears into thin air whenever you sober up

[thick jackal]

That's very on point for OE mages guild somehow

[steep sundial]

yes, it's one of my favorite places

[thick jackal]

(iirc it's being reworked though)

for Poison Song

[steep sundial]

I love how the time is slowed, the distorted voices, sounds and the of course distorted visuals. It really invites imagination

Now add some lua generated sounds around you

and perhaps make imaginary objects appear to mess with your mind

so trippy

[thick jackal]

That's nice for some trips, but I imagine e.g. something like painting quest from oblivion may be great too

[steep sundial]

I just need a convincing reason why a player would seek to do this except for the visuals. Some deeper purpose

ofc, there is the addiction route

but maybe some Sheogorath quest content too

the thrill of experiencing something strange

a singing bug here, leading you to treasure

[thick jackal]

Well, quests are usually good reason to engage with something

not even quest rewards, just quests, if well written and interesting

[autumn girder]

Doing thieves guild quests while high on skooma for extra rewards

[misty geyser]

i was wondering if an effect like that could be applied to the ground the way wetworld does with raindrops and puddles, so the world is warping seperately to your vision, there is also SSshadows like LiamMello's that can cause some very creepy unintended effects

[autumn girder]

I had a character with a skooma addiction and had a playthrough like that ^ super fun

[steep sundial]

It's alway surreal hearing about people using your mods in their playthrough. Well, I assume you used the skooma overhaul

maybe moon sugar and skooma is too scarce to sustain the habit

[misty geyser]

thats part of the fun. in my current playthrough im dealing with mushroom addiction and the penalty is so severe that i find i need more but its really rare so im getting desperate so its always a juggling act

[steep sundial]

yes, I haven't gotten around to updating it. I figured the other two mods are just better

[misty geyser]

i agree, just saying that the scarcity is part of the challenge of addiction

is there any actual detailed lore about skooma use? because im confused about what actually gets smoked in the pipe. skooma is a liquid, yes? so is a vaporizer?

[steep sundial]

I just need there to be better reasons to do it. Like fun quest content, new Wabbajack capabilities

Additional content, specifically centered around Sheogorath

good trips, bad trips

for example there is a tiny snippet of lore about changelings who can change their appearance at will and are dangerous beings

encounter strange creatures

I have no limit here as once you turn sober, it's all gone

Your activities are meant to look like you're a lunatic to Outsiders

like searching for the tiny mages in Mages Guilds

I just love the mental image of that

maybe you are a travelling mage fortune teller and your visions gain accuracy when high

I love the idea of setting up your magic tent around towns and have people come in, while occasionally stopping by the local mages guild

[autumn girder]

Yeah and skoomasthaesia iirc, not exactly sure but I know some of your mods were involved xd

[autumn girder]

Not if you’re doing thieves guild in TR they give you moon sugar and skooma as currency instead of gold

More valuable for a skooma addiction anyway

[autumn girder]

There’s this in TD https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:An_Alchemist's_Guide_to_Skooma
Skyrim (the game) also has a bit of skooma lore

[autumn girder]

Reminds me of this quest https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:Confessions_and_Last_Resort

My first idea for a mod was a quest about that book ^ because I just love it so much

[lone pagoda]

The For Sale Sign from earthbound https://earthbound.fandom.com/wiki/For_Sale_Sign

[turbid minnow]

I tried to enter the Vatican barefoot once (walking on marble floor with no shoes is soo nice) but the Swiss Guard wouldn't let me proceed. So - mod idea
Temple Propriety mod: just a script that makes a Temple NPC to come over and ask the player to follow courtesy dress codes-
No hats/helmets/masks in Temple holdings
No active/equipped weapons
Wear shoes
Must wear clothes
Maybe a criminal offence if the player is underdressed/nekked

[vernal dome]

No running or jumping either

[turbid minnow]

Unsure whether much has been written down on Dres/Indoril social orthodoxy - but I'd submit it would make sense for Dres and Indoril Temples to expect women and female beast races and female outlanders to wear veils, at least in the ultraconservative districts

[fickle crown]

I don't think anything has been written about that. The Temple doesn't follow this even for priests, though, so relationship with the Temple wouldn't be enough to support it. The Ashlanders are very conservative and they don't follow this, either.

Dres was out of scope but it's a pity that we didn't get much more about Indoril in Tribunal. It's annoying how half-assed this expansion is.

[fervent frost]

Don't make women an underclass in Morrowind. I don't think there's much basis for that at all in the lore, aside from royal families or something (haven't read the Wolf Queen in a long time). There's already slavery and loads of racism.

[serene mulch]

it's already pretty cringe when people expand those features imo lol

[pearl furnace]

"shoes required for entering the temple" would be dumb because you can play as a beast race in this game and they do let you join the temple faction

[fickle crown]

Well, they def aren't in-game. Morrowind isn't medieval in that respect. Individual characters may be raunchy or sexist or sth but as far as the Dunmeri culture is concerned in-game, only the Ashlanders seem to have clearly defined gender roles.

[misty geyser]

Procedurally generated obsidian mines for infinite radiant jail time. Tuned for Sun's Dusk, work to the bone each day to trade ebony for food/items. Balance between sleep and work, or secretly gathering supplies for your escape. hone your skills or gamble your earnings in the fight pit. Build alliances with the other prisoners/guards (doubles as a dating sim)

[fervent frost]

Aren't you making this? 😆

[misty geyser]

There's a few aspects of that idea that are beyond my current capabilities 😅

[weary ravine]

what stops you from resting at the bed for the amount of your conviction?

[hollow zenith]

Dehydrate/starve to death

[misty geyser]

[your rest was interrupted]

Get to work criminal scum

[pearl furnace]

500 in-game days of walking to the prison mess so you can eat your portion of gruel and drink your flagon of suspect water

[misty geyser]

He did warn you not to cross him

Tbf prison time is usually a choice in vanilla

[fickle crown]

You lose skills so you become weaker. Probably the only case of permanent skill loss in Vanilla. You wouldn't die in prison, as they feed the prisoners (enough so they don't die) and there would be no gameplay if you simply died (might just as well resist arrest).

[pearl furnace]

doesn't it sometimes make your security skill increase? or am i remembering something from a mod or another game

[fickle crown]

Yeah, it does. Exception. Not sure whether a feature or a bug.

[pearl furnace]

seems featurey to me

my next nord barbarian character, Hrolvardr Hard-Knocks, will master the art of security despite being dumb as a rock through sheer quantity of jail sentences

this is called overcoming your limitations

[thick jackal]

Feature, security and sneak may increase in jail

[willow ore]

I picture a mechanic where you can’t continue a quest or talk to NPCs or what or UNLESS you are experiencing a vision.

[pearl furnace]

guy who is real but you can only see him if you're hallucinating

[turbid minnow]

wouldn't this just make racist Dunmer conservatives even more angry though

[pearl furnace]

i'm just saying the mod idea is in the right thread

[fickle crown]

we should have 2 mod threads - one for dumb ideas and other one for non-dumb ideas - and eternal flame wars about fitting categories for various proposals

[fervent frost]

Sunder gets 1 lb heavier every in-game day

[celest blaze]

A mod that displays armor durability like this, having unequipped armor and weapons show as grew when nothing equipped

[fervent frost]

MechWarrior right there

[steep sundial]

You aren't the Neravarine, but you help the Neravarine or alternatively you can observe the Neravarine's progress

You and bunch of people step off the boat and will eventually figure out which one of you guys is the Neravarine

and then it's just somebody else

[fickle crown]

Then you enter an area and fight like in the Hunger Games. Dagoth Ur and the Tribunal are the spectators. Azura is the gamemaker.

[turbid minnow]

Maybe - you aren't the Nerevarine (until you put on the Moon and Star) - but by doing that, you have helped the Nerevarine take one more step toward fulfilling the prophecy. It's the same way that Vivec describes his innocence, by taking each measure of time in discretion.

I don't have a solid opinion on Azura's role in the Nerevarine prophecies, even after more than 20 years - it's such a good story. I switch between a very low mythic approach - of Azura as a custodian of fates, non-intercessory apart from sometimes - weak in the sense that it seems she can only work through the muddling affairs of generations of false incarnates. and then - sometimes, her workings literally decide the fate of mundus and prophecy is the main theme of the whole game series.

[visual flume]

You are not the Nectarine, you're just an ex-con recruited by the Blades to do stuff. Once you gather enough information, a task from the higher-ups comes: to fabricate the prophecy using a similar ex-con coming from Cyrodiil, whose background and birthsign are fitting. You go to Seyda Neen to meet that person, but turns out they ran away. You investigate, and the Nectarine ends up dead in Samarys Tomb, killed by tomb guardians; the Nectarine turns out to be Fargoth. Caius is mad and, since you done fucked up, makes you play the role of Nectarine. Azura is, like, WTF, but whatever, spice must flow the prophecy must be fulfilled, blight storms are bad for the economy and all that.

[celest blaze]

An extension to Actor Interactions https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57955
you can change your companions ai responsiveness and actions during combat, similar to kingdom hearts/final fantasy ai customization

Companions can heal you or each other based on levels of health, you can pick how of they use specific spells or attacks based on range, they can use potions to suit the situation

[celest blaze]

A new guild but most if not all the quests are basically episodes of the office

[visual flume]

There's gonna be Imperial Curia in P:C. Stay tuned.

[celest blaze]

Companions instead of dying go into a second wind state letting you have a chance to help them up within a set timer, let the time run out and their dead forever

[balmy violet]

spice must flow 🙂

[narrow niche]

Starwind style conversion mod but it makes Morrowind into Dune

[visual flume]

Morrowind is already Dune (in a manner of speaking).

[narrow niche]

Needs more sand

[visual flume]

It has enough sand (it's gray tho for some reason).

[narrow niche]

What about the worms

[visual flume]

It has an excessive amout of worms (albeit smol).

[narrow niche]

Im going to make a mod that claims to be a total Dune conversion and it just sets the scale of Kwama Foragers to like 100

And makes moon sugar orange

[celest blaze]

Witcher 3 style Places Of Power, basically the standing stones from Skyrim that give you a buff and a specific skill increase for a specific skill ie sneak -> chameleon or invisible, sneak fortified, and agility fortified, could either interlope with Reading is good to give gated increases to skills instead of a flat value

[thick jackal]

I mean imperial and temple shrines do basically that, don't they?

the blessings are often kind of weak though

[celest blaze]

Seeeee

Yea but I mean like places around the world you come across it and am like huh maybe I do maybe I don’t, maybe they are place suspiciously close to tombs or area of relative conflict

[willow ore]

I like being a nectarine.

[willow ore]

A mod that changes the spellcasting duration based on magic usage or damage.

Gotta crank up those giant murder fireball casts, but you can fling a bunch of small ones quick.

If the paramaters are set right, it might not even be too bad for compatibility.

[nocturne birch]

Normalize weapon damage so combat effectiveness is more based on skills/attributes than items

[willow ore]

That is clever.

How would you handle all weapons being the same?

[weary ravine]

boooooo

[weary ravine]

the only way would be that better weapons have higher hit chance

[pearl furnace]

or higher durability

[fervent frost]

Weight and animation speed, too

[lone pagoda]

Make sixth house bases more rewarding and difficult

[willow ore]

Ooooh. Look on Nexus. They have that.

[celest blaze]

Using OMW Achievements you could give titles based on achievements gained, activating the title has npcs acknowledge your title and achievements, and some difficult titles to get give buffs or debuffs based on how you got the achievement

Ahhh a ranking and competition system with other npcs in guilds and temples to override the base advancement system, example when you join the thief’s guild instead of just completing quests you are basically constantly competing with other npcs for the next advancement in the thief’s guild, higher valued items fronted to the guild increases your rank, successfully stealing a number of owned items from an npcs house or business, you can get intersecting quests where you occasionally run into the other npcs and you have to complete the mission without being detected or killing the competing member, higher ranks give more elaborate missions with more difficulty, the same with fighters guild and mages guild, you go to find an artifact only to learn that a competing member is already a few steps ahead and placed magic traps throughout the mission location to slow you down, or you go to a mine to clear out some telvanni agents only to find that they are already dead but you competition didn’t collect the leaders head for the bounty and increase in favor,

Like a leaderboards for guilds and temples that advance you based on favor on top of governing stats

[fickle crown]

BTW I heard that SERA mod has a very special greeting for Argonian wearing a Colovian fur helmet.

[celest blaze]

SAME HAT

[celest blaze]

May have to see something

I was thinking about creating the same but for like a housing association type of thing, you compete with other npcs with who has the best looking house in every town, ranks increases based on the type and number of furniture you have in a given home, whether you eat or sleep in the house and how many items you have stored in the house, but staying away from the home slowly lowers the rank, other npcs rank against you change dynamically based on your willpower, personality, and luck. Passing an npc in the ranking has a chance for them to booby trap your house for your next HOA visit if you can clear whatever trap is laid, ie some infamous cave rats, then you get a modifier that multiplies the amount of housing rating you get for a set period, all actions to increase rating is affected by the modifier, when you pass your inspection you get a letter from the inspector with gold or something

I’m basically trinna figure out global scripts rn

[fervent frost]

Animal Crossing

[celest blaze]

Exactly

[queen timber]

Magical Missions Recharged has the rival for the mages guild

[queen timber]

Boa Targe Amigo!

[vernal dome]

The MMR rival is really good, wish there was more stuff like that in faction quest mods

[celest blaze]

I think imma see about using MMR as a template to just layer it on other guilds

[vernal dome]

That sounds great 👍

[celest blaze]

Or create a new guild specifically based on competition advancement

Ohh I was also thinking was there a lore reason as to why the mages guild and fighters guild advancement style isn’t the same as oblivions? Imma assume traditions changed over the time

[thick jackal]

What do you mean? Fighter's guild advancement in oblivion is not meaningfully different than Morrowind

Mage's Guild has this whole gimmic with "get recommended for the arcane university" but it's not that much different either

[vernal dome]

The recommendation system is probably due to different standards in cyrrodil vs the newly founded vvardenfell guild.

In cyrodiil you gotta get accreditation and people to vouch for you because it's well established and bureacratised, on vvardenfell it's a frontier that's still setting up and actively trying to recruit to outpace the telvanni and rogue mages.

Probably to filter out necromancers trying to infiltrate them too.

[willow ore]

It's not for me but kinda odd, that it's not obvious on Nexus. A mod that uncapps attributes/skills. Just that. Nothing else.

[autumn girder]

MBSP lol

[willow ore]

Ah.

"Includes an uncapper allowing skills to be naturally trained above 100"

[autumn girder]

You can disable everything else abt the mod haha

[misty geyser]

Prestige Mode

[celest blaze]

Waving a knocked arrow around fire turns it into a fire arrow

[celest blaze]

I was in some ayelid ruin in charach and it had the soul stones shooting fire at me, maybe a custom spell that allows you to summon one like a companion for a short time

https://www.google.com/search?q=arc+soul+destiny+2&client=safari&hs=QYpU&sca_esv=a9712045909877f0&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ANbL-n5ThUkSJdn7yvFMpPHBx0tz8V6fWg%3A1773172916300&ei=tHiwabT_Edyh5NoPj-f8-AU&oq=destiny+arc+sol&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIg9kZXN0aW55IGFyYyBzb2wqAggAMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHMgoQABiwAxjWBBhHSLYMUABYAHACeACQAQGYAY0BoAGNAaoBAzAuMbgBAcgBAJgCAqACFJgDAIgGAZAGCJIHATKgB8oFsgcAuAcAwgcFMi0xLjHIBxGACAA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[willow ore]

Skyrim had that same functionality. A temp pet like that would be AWESOME!

[misty geyser]

yeah id love to be able to summon flaming skulls that track and explode on command

[autumn girder]

Mining ore makes you dirty

(not a dumb idea, I’m adding it rn)

[spark ermine]

I'd like a mod that makes ALMSIVI Intervention and Divine Intervention only work for characters that are of sufficient rank in their respective organizations.

[solar axle]

Is it possible to do small rocks and pebbles with same technique as eg https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56570 to enhance graphics with low cost?

[turbid minnow]

torn on this - feels like of all the manifestations of divinity between the cult and the temple that interventions are the most important and vital to the needy, the imperiled, the lost, etc and shouldn't be gatekept to the faithful. but teleportation should also be a more rare and powerful magic.

I think limiting it to at least members of any rank to the faiths makes more sense.

that also makes me think that we need a way to give more than one faction affiliation to NPCs since I'd imagine most Imperials are lay cult members, even if lapsed, and most Dunmer are Temple members, even if lapsed etc, maybe omitting 95% of the Telvanni.

[nocturne birch]

ALMSIVI intervention, but if you teleport too close to anything you get turned into a horrible dunmer-nixhound hybrid

[hollow zenith]

Nobody cared who I was until I put on the moon and star

[vagrant pier]

dirty talk
"i shall see you disgraced before the council... yes!"

hearing dirty talk makes you dirty. better go find that bath.

[spark ermine]

Limiting it to members makes sense. I've got a few mods I'm playing with now which restrict which factions can be joined. For example, you can't be a member of both the Tribunal Temple and the Imperial Cult. I think it makes sense, it's fun for RP, etc.. So perhaps a different approach, assuming a similar faction restriction: the higher ranked in the Tribunal Temple, the lower chance for Divine Intervention to actually work, and same for Imperial Cult and ALMSIVI.

To a point where they simply don't work once you're to a high-enough rank. They can be originally available to all, but as your faith in one faction strengthens, the other denies you

[vagrant pier]

what a roundabout way of saying Fargoth

[celest blaze]

A Chopper/ One Piece style companion:
starts out as a basic scamp but learns three other forms based around the three specializations:
combat- ogrem or kagouti
magic-ascended sleeper or golden saint
Stealth- nix-hound or cliff racer (obviously with a new sound for the animal cries for cliff racer)
You can obtain these form by capturing the soul of the champion of each creature and he uses the soul gem of that champion to then adopt their form, this or you find a very convenient midget that can use a new magic ritual or alchemy to “accidentally” adopt their form

[crisp terrace]

Reminds me of the felthorn mod

[vagrant pier]

wanted to say this too

[crisp terrace]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52740

[celest blaze]

That but just creatures

Or expand the mod to use crossbows or a shield

[willow ore]

I think a fun mod would be something for people to do in tombs that isn't grave robbing.

Taking care of the urns, praying to the rando ancestors to make them happy or whatnot.

Just feels strange playing a Dunmer who loots from the dead.

[celest blaze]

Like a tomb caretaker

[fickle crown]

That's some nice idea for quests and activities. Taking care of some tombs, throwing out the looters etc.

[turbid minnow]

Maybe a Dunmer player character should lose their Ancestor Guardian power for a day as a punishment each time they plunder an Ancestral Tomb

"You disturb the dead for no reason other than your own gain, the ancestor spirits refuse to serve you"

But what constitutes looting and what is legitimate quest-based tomb stuff might be difficult to implement.

[prime plover]

"Opening any burial urn which does not have a script attached to it" might be a solid option. It'd be cool if doing this also disabled Almsivi Intervention temporarily

Honestly, it'd be neat if Dunmer or acknowledged Nerevarines had mostly non-hostile tomb guardians until they attack one of them or steal something

[thick jackal]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56978?tab=files

[queen timber]

A fine addition to my 'mods to make list' collection

[fickle crown]

What's on the list? 👀

[queen timber]

A couple require me getting perms

These don’t include mods I’m actively working on

[fervent frost]

I was thinking of a toddslop mod that adds procedural quests to the temple to deliver urns to tombs. You get a big ol 40 lb urn and have to trek out to the tomb and deliver it. Would be pretty similar to Radiant Theft

[fickle crown]

I always chuckle when you say "toddslop"

hilarious

[willow ore]

Love the inconvenience factor!

“Nobody ever said it was easy being a tomb keeper!”

*drags a giant urn halfway across VVardenfel”

[fickle crown]

Would be even funnier if you got a bonus for not destroying any of the traditional tomb guardians (calmimg, avoiding or tanking them instead).

[spark ermine]

Oooo that Terror tho

plzplzplz

[celest blaze]

Idols: you get a mini version of the deadra god you follow, they are a companion that doesn’t engage in combat or be targeted but till give you a buff, what they offer varies based on what god you have

[fervent frost]

If you get hit while carrying the urn there could be a chance the ghost in it will get upset at you

[thick jackal]

but tiny

[celest blaze]

Yea

[fervent frost]

I love that daedra shirt

[celest blaze]

I have no equivalent comparison other than rpgs that have a pet mechanic

Small animal that need to be fed in order for you to get the buff they offer

That or something like fairies or pixies/ small ball of light that follows you

Depending on how good I get with openmw I might even take that on 🫡

I’ve seen a chair as a companion so I’m sure I just need a meshes for it like how it is

[misty geyser]

butterfly companion

[vagrant pier]

who gets really upset if you kill butterflies

[misty geyser]

no message box or any kind of feedback, you just know

[misty geyser]

how do you actually make a companion?

is it just giving a particular script to an npc?

[autumn girder]

I think it’s just setting their companion state to 1 (usually from a dialogue) but I haven’t done it in a while so I forget

[misty geyser]

does it work on creatures?

or only npc types

[autumn girder]

It should, at least I know there are some companions who look like creatures but the mod creators might have had to do some jank

Devilish’s backpack mod has an invisible rat companion and Katya has a winged twilight

[misty geyser]

yeah and there's pack guar companion in TR and the aforementioned chair

there's a nix hound companion mod but appearantly it doesnt work on openmw so im curious about why. id like a dowg

but also a butterfly would be hilarious

all its dialogue is "it seems to moving erratically"
and your responses are
"catch" (%chance luck+disp)
"ignore" goodbye

and it goes in a jar in your inventory

[vagrant pier]

and if you forget to put it back in a jar when it rains it dies

if its a moth dont take it out near fires

during ash/blight storms aka windy weather they get blown away

ok it's actually the hardest to keep alive companion i know of

[misty geyser]

the mod is called Challenge Run

with really metal hardcore artwork and screenshots

[vagrant pier]

and then theres the real challenge run

youre the butterfly

[misty geyser]

replaces all NPC dialogue with "blablalab" except when the word pollen or nectar comes up

and then you get that as a dialogue option but their only response is "pbhhtbhh, eh this butterfly thinks im a flower"

[vagrant pier]

no one trades with you for this same reason

[misty geyser]

what would your racial abilities be?

detect plants

calm humanoid

[vagrant pier]

except for khajiits

[misty geyser]

"butterfly effect"
1/100 chance to instakill an npc

[vagrant pier]

them you aggro

your carry weight is more pitiful than that detail devil mod

[misty geyser]

maybe magica regen,
but strength is 0 yeah

[vagrant pier]

ahhh right, aptitude for illusion

charm

high personality

[willow ore]

Snarky lines about "my nephew would have been more careful."

[autumn girder]

||ostim|| and other funny Skyrim mods, don’t need any fancy camera work or animations either just give me a fade to black with Vehk

[vagrant pier]

thats exactly why i proposed dirty talk yesterday

[narrow niche]

Whether you can interact with the companion at all is based on speed and agility

[celest blaze]

The fade to black works so well with scripted events

[celest blaze]

I think striders rests has one

[narrow niche]

If your strength is too high, any attempt to interact with it kills it instantly

[vagrant pier]

it doesnt have to be disgusting, rather fun and unexpected and generally morrowind way

[celest blaze]

Tame horses fade to black

[autumn girder]

Dice roll

[celest blaze]

Luck and personality dice roll

Ahh hunterwind could bring bug catchers and moth in a jars

[willow ore]

bug cathers would be fun. Have a reason to use those outside light sources.

[visual flume]

It was proposed, like, 10000 times before, but there you go: proper nomadic Ashlanders.

[nocturne birch]

There's the ashlander trader mod

[misty geyser]

and the ashlander silt skiff

[celest blaze]

👁️👄👁️ huh

[fossil stone]

recreate the stat system from Daggerfall

where you have to roll

[autumn girder]

Think someone wanted to commission that some time ago

[fossil stone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/thanos-fine-ill-do-it-myself-0NTG9ffrXT870Wt9qv

I found it

I wonder if they mean the WHOLE thing

with the background quiz

and the bonus gear

[vernal dome]

Backgrounds and bonus gear would be cool

[autumn girder]

Think there’s a thread for it somewhere

[fossil stone]

[autumn girder]

Just a head’s up that there was a $200 bounty on it that ownlyme turned down bc it wouldn’t even come close to how much time it would take to make it

[fossil stone]

Really?

you can directly change stats and skill levels

then just questions to spawn in items

[autumn girder]

Making the UI?

[fossil stone]

character creation end is a flag too isnt it?

THE UI

the bane of my existence

https://giphy.com/gifs/bombaysoftwares-movie-hollywood-oppenheimer-6oMhPwjvQc6LAEpEuq

[autumn girder]

Not to mention altering skills and attributes in a way that doesn’t mess with the player’s stats

But that’s what pretty stats is for these days

[fossil stone]

isnt this a 'fixed' issue?

fixed in the sense that other mods have already dealt with and worked around it

whats pretty stats?

[autumn girder]

Depends on if the mod author is ownlyme or not

[autumn girder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58304

[fossil stone]

think brain think

https://giphy.com/gifs/week-finals-summed-mRh4cLIYhrs9G

[misty geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/260439894298460160/1266702316053204992 this mod has done some nice stuff for that. It works but I think it's abandoned from what people were saying

I was thinking https://discord.com/channels/260439894298460160/1419201246841147443 could also make a good base for such a mod

It's already got a ui too

[fickle crown]

DF character creator has some great ideas but unfortunately, balance is absolute trash. I bet that sensible results can be achieved but it's not easy to balance a system like that.

it's still the most involved character creation system Bethesda ever made, though

[fossil stone]

sans the advantage/disadvantage it seems doable

although like you said... unbalanced

you can get up to 75 in a skill/attribute in Daggerfall at lv1

[fickle crown]

Yeah... 1. "Forbid" a weapon or armor type you won't ever be using, anyway. 2. Gain more points for advantages - buffs which will actually make you stronger. 3. Profit

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

As for background gear, some alt start mods already do sth like this

[misty geyser]

Quickstart Unchained does it

[pearl furnace]

@primal badge S3maphore preset to play porno music while the player is talking to Crassius

it's a funk/muzak arrangement of a soule melody. the track title is Nerevar Rising

[primal badge]

Challenge accepted

[nocturne birch]

Honestly the hardest part seems like it would be the difficulty slider

[nocturne birch]

Soul gem pokeballs

[celest blaze]

Enemies weapons can have soul trap on them and when you die to it your teleported to a soul cairn like dimension where you have a short time based on your level to escape if not you are trapped

Time to escape is based on level and type of soul gem your trapped in

[fossil stone]

the UI AAAAAAAAA

[fossil stone]

it doesnt work yet but its something

I mean the rng is copied over and all that from daggerfall

but the mod doesn't work yet

[fickle crown]

Shields can block ranged attacks with the same chance as with melee attacks.

Crazy. I know.

[thick jackal]

working on that

I mean, literally one of the features of the parry mod I'm making

no chance though, active blocking

[fickle crown]

That's different, though. More involved, adding a completely new mechanic.

[thick jackal]

Fair

[nocturne birch]

Animal hats, like the mudcrab hat and wolf/bear helmet, make you allied with those creatures and they help you in fights

[pearl furnace]

@fervent frost Same Hat Expanded ^

[fickle crown]

If a guard spots you in Mournhold with an equipped artifact stolen from the Museum, you immediately get a bounty. After X time the info spreads to major cities on the mainland and on Vvardenfell so same restrictions apply there. Non-Mournhold guards ignore you if you are a high ranking member of their faction, though.

[narrow niche]

Quest mod that fleshes out that Indiana Jones Easter egg in that one ancestral tomb and sends you across the different parts of Project Tamriel and Tamriel Rebuilt

You also get a brown Colovian helm and a guar whip

[woven salmon]

Sounds like we're adding Navi to Morrowind

"Hey, Listen!"
"Nerevar look!"

[vagrant pier]

flashing out abc for barbarians
you start illiterate (you see gibberish in the books instead of text or just receive a message “you don’t understand a thing” without books getting opened)
trainers who can teach you to read, success rate/training time depends on intelligence

[vagrant pier]

go on, laugh while im feigning illiteracy on my new run

[pearl furnace]

questgiver: You'll do it? Very good. Now, the route to your destination is rather long and complicated, so let me write this down for you. [Questgiver's Directions has been added to your inventory.]
you:

[vagrant pier]

mer im just a simple hunter, the only direction i know is where to find some nice kagouti morsel

[turbid minnow]

Something for ES4-5 players: You should get rewarded if you find Balmora on the first attempt. Confetti and balloons should pop up at the gates.

[fickle crown]

maybe just add an achievement for reaching Balmora before day X without using a silt strider 😄

[prime plover]

A mod that makes all keys in the game five times the size and vibrant purple.

[prime plover]

Steeper seating for the arena in Vivec, so that you can actually see the fight without leaning on the railing.

[woven salmon]

I'm kinda surprised it has that walkway instead of solid stadium seating all the way down to the ring.

Put some nets up to keep the audience safe.

[celest blaze]

Banter between enemies when they are in groups https://www.nexusmods.com/daggerfallunity/mods/1037

[prime plover]

The most immediately amusing thing about this is that it has the same quirk Morrowind does where they re-use lines for men and women so sometimes they just sound really identical lmao

[visual flume]

This feature exists in Mercy.

[thick jackal]

Mercy while great is bit scuffed in other ways, and does much more, which is not always a plus, granted the "invalid attack" thing may get fixed in c++.

Also, daggertalk has actual voiceactors, so inherently that's a plus

[willow ore]

I like Mercy, but yeah, it's a pretty big NPC behavior change. Same with FairCare. It really changes how you play the game.

[misty geyser]

Perk: If you can land on an NPC you transfer all fall damage to them and cast devilish Sleep Spell on them

[willow ore]

Perks are so cool. Especially if they’re tied to ingame stuff.

[turbid minnow]

For some reason this reminds me, as teenager I lived in Japan and went to high school - and physical education class we often did basketball. One time I tried to do backwards basketball shot by throwing the ball straight upwards+behind me - it landed on pretty much vertically some boy's head - and it looked like it transferred all the fall damage onto him because the ball bounced off his head and he went down.. 😵‍💫

He was fine... I think. He got up and there were no immediate injuries. But couldn't really tell with that one either way.

[fossil stone]

we just need perk packs to go with the perk framework mod

[fervent frost]

Yeah. Also note the framework is AGPL so everyone is free to fork and improve it provided derivatives are also AGPL

[prime plover]

Additional hit reactions for vampires, so that stabbing one with a dagger doesn't just become a continuous loop of a one second voice sample of some lady moaning at you

[willow ore]

That “some lady” was an unpaid intern, to you!

[vernal dome]

Vancian magic in the context of perks systems has been discussed before, I do like how Ordinator for skyrim handles it:
30 - Vancian Magic - Cast magic like the wizards of old. Your next 20 spells do not use Magicka and are 50% more effective. When you run out of spells, you are unable to cast spells until you rest by sleeping at an inn or in your home.
50 - Intuitive Magic (2) - Novice/ and apprentice spells of any school cost 100% less Magicka to cast.
50 - Quadratic Wizard - Whenever you recharge your Vancian Magic spells, you gain 1 additional Vancian Magic spell for each 10 points of base Magicka.
70 - Dungeon Master - Whenever you recharge your Vancian Magic spells, you may choose less or more spells in exchange for increased or decreased spell effectiveness, and/or choose one of three metamagic enhancements. Your choice remains in effect until your next rest.

Home Mythal and it's associated perks are also really interesting:
60 - Home Mythal - Summons a permanent magical field at the location where you learn this perk. Alteration spells gain x2 duration if cast within 5000 feet, and x20 duration if cast within 250 feet. Additionally, Vancian Magic can be recharged by sleeping within 250 feet.
80 - Dimension Door - Grants the "Dimension Door" power. At will, creates a magical doorway that teleports you to the location of your Home Mythal.

That 20 times duration for alteration spells is really good, allows for armour spells to last for hours irl (days with proper stacking).

[vernal dome]

"90 - Gods and Mortals - Shrine blessings last 50% longer, and the blessings of the Divines (Akatosh, Arkay, Dibella, Julianos, Kynareth, Mara, Stendarr, Talos, Zenithar) confer powerful additional effects."

This from the restoration tree is really good too.

[balmy violet]

Oh re good ideas - mixing different spell effects on a custom spell often is useless rn, so - spell recipies! Mix in burdain to you fireball - it's "heavy" now, it arcs in the air and staggers enemies. Different combinations of different effects result in different unique effects or even unique spells

Recipes can be found in the world andbought off wizards

Fireball + levitate = levitating fire orb that spits small fireballs at enemies

Shield + elemental dmg = bursts of damage at enemies tgat hit you

Infinite pissibilities

Does require dehatdcoding of spell picking and spell aking uis though to have proper ui for unique effects and descriptions

[misty geyser]

That would be wild. Break open the spell crafting menu for dynamic casting. You cast your base spells as like a spell soup and then activate it to fire off bespoke crafted spells on the fly

[balmy violet]

Elemental traps, some cool move tech (gliding flight or something) , firewalls, shotgun spells - many things can seamlessly be integrated with the world and suell system this way

[balmy violet]

Oh you thinking of mixing it at casting time, might also be interesting, but i was thinking of mixing at spellmaking time

Easier to manage for a player, prob

[misty geyser]

Yeah for sure

[thick jackal]

And probably easier to code ( at making time)

[misty geyser]

Naturally

But it would be preeeettty cool

You have all your spells on a radial menu and the strength of modifiers is based of your Incantation skill

Pick them out of the air like you forming a glyph of power

That could tie in with the vancian magic idea to build more powerful spells in advance by making alchemical glyphs with special ingredients and candles like in Ultima 8

Meditation and ritual skills to improve casting times and recastability

[turbid minnow]

What's the point of "you can't sleep when enemies are around" when there is a mechanic which wakes you up from sleep if you are disturbed? Are there any mods that do something with this mechanic? I think a simple change to the language could help. Of course in active combat, it should be something like "you must not sleep in combat", etc

It feels like - you shouldn't want to sleep if you know there are enemies around - or otherwise the message should be "you are too anxious to sleep with enemies nearby" - etc/

[pearl furnace]

mod idea: you can sleep anywhere! but if you sleep in a cell with hostiles wandering around, they quietly gather everyone in the cell around you while you're sleeping and attack you as a group

[autumn girder]

It’s possible to make a mod like that lmfaooo

[pearl furnace]

also, it no longer warns you before you sleep with enemies nearby

because how would you know that? it's on you to cast Detect Humanoid and thoroughly check your surroundings before putting yourself at risk

this mod idea is inspired by something that actually happened to me in morrowind once, when i slept outside the "enemies nearby" radius of a group of hostile NPCs, but within aggro range of the nearest node on the local pathgrid

[steep sundial]

Roleplay as Uncle Sweetshare. Set up your workshop in sketchy locations and supply local citizens with moon sugar / skooma

I'd love to have other ways to have "purpose" in Morrowind instead of ordinary quests

like being a fortune teller and going from town to town to foresee the future

just some alternative ways to roleplay instead of doing the faction quests

[thick jackal]

Some ways to exist

just exist. I have this weird deja-vu telling me that I saw a mod that does something like that

but I can't remember neither details nor the name

[steep sundial]

I just love this idea of being a weird mage traveller who offers services to towns and occasionally visits Mages Guilds

maybe I magically set up my tent by putting a tiny inventory tent on the ground and expanding it to full size

then I go into my tent and Npc of that area come to my tent for my fortunte telling business

then there are randomly generated visuals and I tell them what their future is (and maybe these are quests)=

or even roleplaying as a rogue alchemist learning the skooma recipe from uncle sweetshare and trying to make riches could be fun

[willow ore]

That would be fun. Some sort of mundane purpose mod. Like a side gig.

Priests could cure colds or whatnot. Mages could summon ancestors …. Fighters could exhibition show.

[steep sundial]

yes, but be assured these would be very time consuming to get right

[willow ore]

No doubt.

[steep sundial]

i have this tendency that if I gets too big of a project it collects dust

I prefer mods I can create in 1 or 2 days

[willow ore]

Always wonder how much time you guys sink into this.

Maybe start with just your fortune telling mod? Like a one cell “convo sim?”

No clue how that works.

[steep sundial]

plenty of lua wizardry

basically a check of nearby Npcs and then spawning them in your tent

and giving them dialogue could be tricky

[willow ore]

Like. The writing?

[thick jackal]

custom scripts for every variation of this too

and writing

[willow ore]

I feel some pain coming here, but I did go to school for literature.

Can’t code or like … mod.

[steep sundial]

The problem is rather that all dialogue is usually linked to a "specific" Npc.

And the Npcs coming in your tent aren't specified

[willow ore]

Oh. Gotcha. Mechanical stuff. Hrm.

[steep sundial]

I'm sure I could make it happen. Maybe a greeting for all Npcs in my cell with a random global for random dialogue

but still

it's not easy

[willow ore]

Maybe a generic NPC that gets randomly chargen’d?

Like. It really is just one NPC that just looks diff?

[steep sundial]

You can create dialogue that's available for many Npcs and then randomize which dialogue they get to use

so I guess, technically this is all possible

If you want to be able to "see" the visions, it would become difficult once again

videos take up too much memory, so it's better to just create a cell and control the camera for a video effect

and you'd need to create a cell for each vision 😄

[willow ore]

Maybe just a little “woosh” screen.

[thick jackal]

Honestly just text will be fine

"You see this and that"

ranging from silly to ominous

[steep sundial]

yes, maybe. I may get back to this idea eventually.

My current focus might be to revive my project "Touch of Madness"

which is about skooma fuelled adventures

experiencing things on skooma trips that don't happen in reality

[thick jackal]

weren't you working on that last couple weeks?

[steep sundial]

yes, I worked on my skooma mod

The skooma effects last longer now

[thick jackal]

Completely not my cup of tea, but what you've shown is very cool

[steep sundial]

I think it allows for "out-of-the-box ideas" to be implemented. Tiny wizards, dragons, talking objects / animals anything goes under the effects of skooma and creeping madness

[thick jackal]

yeah, very much so

[steep sundial]

Sheogorath and the concept of madness is hard to implement and I think I'm one of the few people who can and would work on something like this

I think I might be able to add a nice vignette shader effect to the skooma effects so you get tunnel vision when high

[steep sundial]

Imagine if there were houses that only exist when your are high on Skooma and disappar when you sober up.

Anything that makes you qestion your experience

How about dynamically replacing misc objects for absurd objects and change them back when you sober up

I love the idea of messing with the player's perception of what is real

Keep them guessing

Slowly losing your mind about what is real and what's not

it should be subtle

An ordinary Npc you search for later but who never existed

Skooma is supposedly hallucinatic (if that's the right word)

so you should be seeing these things

[misty geyser]

a whole town that only exists in skooma haze, imagine trying to do quests for them

or an island

that would an interesting use of old mods too. some of those old epic town mods that add dwemer towers everywhere, or a battlespire.

obviously way over the top

but just a fun idea

[pearl furnace]

sign outside the skooma town that says "You must be this high to enter 🫳 "

[vernal dome]

Add a "sarcastic" dialogue topic

[balmy violet]

that sounds like a very cool quest mod

[steep sundial]

I have a partially written quest about a tiny wizard who lives on the ceiling beams of the Old Ebonheart Mages Guild

[steep sundial]

It's quite good actually. It's technically demanding but a fun quest

[willow ore]

Eternal Darkness on the GameCube was amazing for that.

[nocturne birch]

Autosort bookshelves

[pearl furnace]

Quackstart: it's a mod where chargen takes the same amount of time as usual, but you are a duck

[visual flume]

I'm sure you'll fit right in... in the oven 🍖

[pearl furnace]

🦆‍😱

[steep sundial]

I'm currently working on Ylbert being a mind mage who makes you do quests for him whether you are willing or not

You blackout sometimes and wake up in different places. If you tell him no, he just whistles at you and you do it anyway.

The current idea is that you carry him around in your inventory as some sort of involuntary companion (only exist when high on skooma). And he'll occasionally take control of you, to take you deeper into the madness.

He's like a devil on your shoulder, whispering in your ear, except he primarly cares about sweet pastries.

and I have more crazy ideas for that quest

basically he wants to make Mother Alessia (Old Ebonheart's bakery) his kingdom. First you'll carry him there, then .... (to be decided), the recipes have weird ingredients now, the customers behave ever more strangely. Many people are dancing, the guards are investigating and join the dancing. Later he wants his own castle inside the bakery, which leads up a long long stone staircase and when you look outside the window you'll see the realm of the shivering isles.

should the effect of skooma run out every hint of Ylbert, the castle and anything supernatural, will be gone, except that the baker and the residents are still mad

maybe even interconnect it with Doors of Oblivion where you suddenly end up there

[severe marsh]

Balance the Calm spells by making them resistible through a dice roll every few seconds and the probability of success is determined by the NPC's willpower stat and character level vs your own willpower stat and illusion skill level. This would simulate an ability to break free from mind control effects at any moment based on how strong a character is. This could balance these skill effects which are currently an auto win button.

[fossil stone]

seems entirely doable

pulse every x seconds, read willpower, feed into roll system

could dispel any spell really

paralyze

blind

charm, calm, frenzy

a sort of “DnD” system

[pearl furnace]

Durations and Dispelments

[woven salmon]

So, there's a mod that places Jiub in the ministry of truth, as you'd expect... But it's missing something: A quest line that massively culls the number of cliff racers.

[celest blaze]

GTA style load save: when you load into a save your character is doing a random task, walking, talking to an npc, eating, bathing etc

[narrow niche]

It has to do the thing where it zooms in on the map too

[celest blaze]

Hell yea

Or at least a continue button that starts the game exactly from the last save like no loading or anything between launching the game and hitting continue

[nocturne birch]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Intimidation

[fossil stone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rockstargames-gta-trilogy-gtatrilogy-6ILjOfJ1oL7NAc9SQ7

[narrow niche]

Ah shit

[fossil stone]

here we go again, n'wah

maybe if you got rid of that imperialistic haircut you're wife wouldn't have cut your feet off nerevar

[lone pagoda]

make the dunmer look like how they did in daggerfall

[fossil stone]

so change skin texture to bosmer

[visual flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6NmzzgYzCw

[turbid minnow]

Now I've started making some volcano/geo active areas I go back to the idea that a certain proximity to magma (internal) should be instakill unless you have a 100% fire shield. for lava I don't think it doesn't feel like an issue. Maybe a set of messages to say "You are feeling woozy from the gas" or something.

for example, there's a cell in Caldera expanded I think - where you are not only triapsing this wooden plank above the magma but are just inches above it in a low ceiling cave. I don't normally mind but in that instance it felt a bit stark.

to mimic noxious gases, I think giving the furn_lavamist mesh a low level poison script would work too.

like this place should be completely hostile to all forms of life and if you need to enter, you should have a plan to get out as quickly as possible

[fossil stone]

I've NEVER seen a game get Lava right

not once

its either "the floor is lava" rules where a pixel touches and you insta-die

or its unrealistic in one manner or another

BG3 for example

it does A LOT of damage

but you CAN just stroll around in it and then jump out, no issues at all

you can be knocked prone in lava

completely submerged

what should really happen somewhere like that is if you get close enough you just literally start burning all over your body, not even touching it

you also would have a hard time sinking in lava if I remember correctly

its ROCK after all

[nocturne birch]

There isn't really much point to The Volcano Level if you never get close to the lava, though

[fossil stone]

thats where the power of m a g i c comes in

[nocturne birch]

Also, in Morrowind this would work very badly due to how many low level Dwemer ruins would be instant death zones

[fossil stone]

imagine if certain areas needed fire or frost resistance potions/spells/enchantments/etc because of the hazardous enviroment

[fossil stone]

Dwemer traps could be so brutal if they actually tried

high pressure steam jet is invisible and will absolutely destroy your body

[nocturne birch]

But the reward would have to be worth the extra effort, which Dwemer ruins suck so it's not

[fossil stone]

imagine walking down a hallway and you hear a sudden high pitched whistle and your companion falls over, cut in half

[nocturne birch]

A Delta-P situation

[fossil stone]

isnt delta-p the reverse

big object get sucked into tiny passage

like uh... the crab on the deep sea pipe

[nocturne birch]

Yes, but it's just a pressure differential

[fossil stone]

not to mention all the spinning objects inside dwemer ruins

as a machinist...

I've seen horrible safety videos

spinning objects are death traps

the idea has been brainstormed

the "OSHA violation" Morrowind mod

now all these unsafe areas are actually unsafe to teach you why OSHA rules are written in blood

[nocturne birch]

If it's raining you have a chance to slip and fall off of Telvanni mushroom bridges

[fossil stone]

see this is why you should just always be levitating

walking is for the... weak willed and feable minded...

https://giphy.com/gifs/cool-crazy-nerd-hxi61Njny6hxu1hFWJ

[autumn girder]

Yeah there is already a mod for that

[autumn girder]

Crazy that there is already a mod for that too

[fickle crown]

It'a always a good sign when the answer is: we have a mod for this already

[turbid minnow]

I always headcanoned that Dwemer magictech sorted it out. For example, Wraithguard being a prime example of a heat shield and whatever-the-fuck-radiation the Heart gives off

[turbid minnow]

does it work in modded interiors?

[autumn girder]

Yup

[turbid minnow]

ah nice - mind reposting it? 😄

[autumn girder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57526

https://gitlab.com/lhya/sunsdusk/-/wikis/survival-mechanics/temperature#death-by-lava-and-ice

The information is all here along with the protective gear and info about magic and resistance xd

[turbid minnow]

Yes I've been meaning to install this

but considering I don't actually play morrowind, just the openmw-construction set, I haven't gotten round yet

[fickle crown]

Modder's curse.

[fickle crown]

BTW since I've been playing with Sun Dusk for quite a long time and with Devilish Needs before that which also had a similar feature, it's really not as big of a deal as you are suggesting here. It only affects some areas (parts of some cells with lava) and there are ways around it like healing, resistances, fire shield or even running through. You get to used to this.

[night grail]

Your past comes back to haunt you.

[fossil stone]

yeah I never did work on that mod heh

oopsie

[pearl furnace]

mod where you can eat misc items

[serene mulch]

dwemer puzzle box hard mode

[pearl furnace]

swallowing keys to gain their powers

[autumn girder]

You can do this with lua haha, I do this for soap and towels

[fossil stone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/splat-nicksplat-ren-and-stimpy-l4Ep7qm9rtkyq57d6

[vagrant pier]

appraisal skill/spell: define which gems are cursed before picking them up
then you can dispel them if you want, but thats not very fun
so you can store them in cursed state, then the moment you sell them to a merchant guess what

[north verge]

Replace bounty with a GTA-style 5 stars system

[narrow niche]

I think something like that exists

[fickle crown]

There is a mod for GTA-like wanted stars when you have the bounty. Most Wanted Nerevarine. It doesn't add any new mechanics, though.

[lone pagoda]

in game emulation, example https://www.emuvr.net/

[celest blaze]

Chess mini game 👁️👄👁️ board game style or from the Harry Potter movies

[celest blaze]

You can use the various deadra as the ranks ig

[turbid minnow]

If water walking is active but you fall from a great height into the water, you die. Maybe it shouldn't be like that.

[thick jackal]

why not?

waterwalking magically ingame allows you to treat water as a solid surface - so I'd say working as intended

I'd even say you should die from falling in water from above certain height without waterwalking,

[pearl furnace]

lava planes should have collision. yeah it's a liquid, but it's a liquid which is about as dense as rock. you should not sink in it

[turbid minnow]

just feels the magic is a bit thoughtless when you get fall damage on the water if you have water walking

[pearl furnace]

i was going to write "lavawalking spell effect" but that came out instead

[thick jackal]

It's lore accurate though, there are books that describe how alteration works

and that is very on brand for how it would backfire

[turbid minnow]

I know in-game the character is always falls foot-first - but if falling was accurate to Rl then if you fell headfirst/any other way would you still get crushed?

[thick jackal]

it's really the closest to Mage:The Ascenscion magic - with your will bending the reality. hence the backfire of a "water is now solid, so you broke your legs" actually makes sense

[turbid minnow]

but only a solid on your feet? or all external water? in what relation haha

[thick jackal]

Solid "for you" - same as "water breathing" works "for target"

so head first - yeah

also crushed

[pearl furnace]

i forget what happens when you cast water walking while you're fully underwater

[turbid minnow]

you can't I think

[thick jackal]

you can't ingame

[pearl furnace]

there's some depth where it pushes you up instead

[thick jackal]

if you're just below the surface - you get pushed up

Pretty sure it's at "can breathe" depth

[pearl furnace]

what if you're in an airpocket in a flooded tunnel?

can it push you out of bounds?

[thick jackal]

which for the player model - is submerged except for the ear tips (on mer)

can't pretty sure

Need to load up and doublecheck

[turbid minnow]

you get the OceanGate Titan treatment

[pearl furnace]

that's where i'm going with this, since we are in the dumb mod ideas thread

[thick jackal]

hehehe I like that one

[pearl furnace]

dumb mod idea: instead of the spell failing, casting waterwalking while submerged should instantly kill you by crushing

[turbid minnow]

well there are other considerations - if water walking alteration makes water into a solid - then breathing in water vapour becomes breathing in ice shards

[pearl furnace]

dumb mod idea: enable collision on all fake water planes and waterfalls and mist/splash particles and rain when the player uses water walking

[stuck dome]

Though not the most useful in truth, a mod allowing the player to save custom classes would be great.

[vernal dome]

Sarcastic death messages
"What did you expect casting waterwalking underwater?"
"A daedric ruin at level 2 really?"
"Try slowfall next time"
(Dying to the undead) "Maybe you'll do better in your next life, it's coming soon."

[serene mulch]

How about water walking "works", but you're just walking on the surface underwater

Like a cursed amulet of levitation in nethack kind of thing

[pearl furnace]

lol. waterwalking but it disables swimming mode and you fall to the bottom, where you walk and jump like normal

[willow ore]

Should just die. “Suddenly set concrete “

On second thought. It could just cause mad tension on the surface. So a large body should become bouncy.

[willow ore]

A curse system that does weird stuff like this.

[vagrant pier]

there is an optional chess addon in uvirith's legacy, it adds a working chess board to the tower

[celest blaze]

Imma check that out thanks

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53858 this?

I see the chess addon

[vagrant pier]

yep this

[celest blaze]

Ok

If anybody played dishonored 1 and 2, a mod that recreates Elizabeth’s heart talking to you and telling you lore about the world

[narrow niche]

Lorkhan's (Other) Heart

[thick jackal]

||Is only available after Tribunal for a full Dishonored hommage||

[misty geyser]

mod that lets you throw coins like throwing stars with your gold as the actual ammo

[narrow niche]

And you get a buff if you throw them into a well or fountain

[celest blaze]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58331

But it doesn’t use your gold

[misty geyser]

yeah i like that mod haha the only comment on there is me asking about it. i figure it would be the only way i could use Foxunders new surrender mod with unpaused menus

[misty geyser]

Surrender Outlander now has a hotkey to drop coins quickly 👑

[narrow niche]

https://x.com/RavenTofu/status/2037874758583545863?s=20

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This but in Morrowind

[fickle crown]

Nice one. I expected the mod to be hardly usable with Pause Control.

I sweat enough when I run out of potions under hotkey so trying to find the gold and dropping it on the ground while the enemy is running at you...

[misty geyser]

yeah it wasnt really going to be an option

[fickle crown]

the guy is on a roll, though

he keeps pumping out those cool mods!

[misty geyser]

seriously, its really impressive

[celest blaze]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/53074

[vernal dome]

Guar tipping

[nocturne birch]

Weapon material gives special hit effects
Silver: Turn Undead
Dwemer: Silence
Daedric: Demoralize Human
etc

[misty geyser]

Wood: Splinters

[narrow niche]

But for you and the target

[celest blaze]

Hircine’s forbidden club- the damage you deal to a target is halved to you

Fortify health
Damage health on target on hit
Damage health on self on hit

Or the higher the health you have the more damage you do then the damage done to you is half that

[weary ravine]

sleeping leading to debuffs if you do it too much or too little

but no stamina shit
instead: blind effects (pasty eyes), yawning, etc

[serene mulch]

Voices of the void style hallucinations if you fail to sleep

[weary ravine]

yessss

throw in a stalker shadow (paranoia)

[celest blaze]

Audio cues for suns dusk needs changes

[viscid flint]

I like this idea, as a sort of collectible/challenge thing to do in various places

[final carbon]

Probably come up before, but I don’t think I’ve seen a mod that gives you a satisfying combat usage for security à la setting traps in BG1/2. Placing some sort of activator on the ground that pops and does damage/paralyzes/etc when triggered.

[pearl furnace]

i think Tamriel_Data has bear traps that snap shut when an actor walks onto them

[steep sundial]

learn how to brew skooma from Uncle Sweetshare and become a rogue wandering alchemist who brings joy to every corner of Tamriel

occasionally get kidnapped by gangs and guards

[narrow niche]

I unironically thought about making a skooma kingpin mod lmao

[steep sundial]

I was thinking small scale, just you slinging your own made skooma under the locals

making an unhonest living

like uncle sweetshare, but mobile

[willow ore]

How would you ensure a steady supply of moon sugar?

[steep sundial]

rumors, dealers, criminal gangs

[dapper pewter]

Teleportation sickness

I'm thinking that it could be a neat immersion thing of why people choose the silt strider and boats

A couple of dialogue topics, a book on the subject, and a new sickness spell could be done on the esp side

I don't know if there's a mwscript that could be used to add it, though 🤔

Probably a clunky thing like editing the travel dialogue of guild guides 😅

[willow ore]

Oooooh, maybe something where you take extra magicka damage for a bit. You're not "recombobulated" yet.

[queen timber]

Miscasts. Cast Recall with low mysticism and you end up off course

[misty geyser]

naked and alone

[fickle crown]

*Alone. Naked.

[weary tendon]

I made some progress on the skooma quest content but I still need quite a bit of content for what can happen on a skooma trip in general. The quest content will be tied to specific places yet I want some hallucinations to happen anywhere you are. My current idea is to occasionally place invisible activators around you to play random sounds to confuse you. Another idea is a shadow figure that will stalk you in the distance and disappear when you get close.

I need to mess with the player´s perception of what is real and what is imaginary. Some of it needs to be more subtle.

[fervent frost]

Could always black out and regain consciousness in a different location

I want a mod that strips you of all your expensive stuff and spawns you in the wilderness if you lose all fatigue in a dungeon inhabited by hostile bandits

[willow ore]

Some of the really great movies do some subtle color manipulation.

The Syfy channel “Children of Dune” comes to mind. Or “Tigerland.”

[willow ore]

Also, darkening and lightening the picture might work. Color filters … like making everything gray except for like … blue?

All very subtle of course.

Maybe some wonky reverb!

For something even more subtle. Maybe remove one completely normal item that just blends into the background.

Like … cups or whatnot.

Don’t know how easy it hard that would be. But your average player would notice there is something missing. But would look pretty hard to find out that suddenly there is just no plates.

But it’s create just enough weirdness to throw someone off.

I imagine all that is a lot of coding for people who might not even like … notice in their min max runs or whatnot.

[fickle crown]

BTW in KCD there is a sleepwalking perk which may result in the player waking up in a different place after rest

[willow ore]

A jail centered quest forsworn style would be cool.

[willow ore]

A fortune telling Guar mod. That actually says useful stuff.

[willow ore]

Mod Idea To Avoid Cheese:

a mod where if you have too much of a buffing booze potion you black out and wake up face down somewhere in the bitter coast.

[weary tendon]

fortune teller who tells you the location of artifacts (basically the wiki without the cheating)

[willow ore]

Hell yeah.

[weary tendon]

yes, I love that idea but I need to work on the skooma mod first. I just love the effect and need it for my own playthrough

[willow ore]

For real. HAve you looked at Eternal Darkness yet?

[weary tendon]

A skooma addict mage who does x. X could be a mobile fortune telling business

[weary tendon]

I think we talked about it before yes and I looked at it

X could also be a skooma alchemy business

[willow ore]

I am attempting my first mod. My pipe dream is a mod where you're a travelling clergy type who preaches and deposits urns in tombs.

I'll start with delivering an urn.

[weary tendon]

let me know if you need help

sounds fairly straightforward

and doable with mwscript

[willow ore]

Heh. Watching Danae's videos right now. I am like, way in over my head. >..<

[weary tendon]

if you want to have it work for "specific" tombs, it's fairly easy -> mwscript

if you want to make it work for "arbitrary tombs" it gets difficult -> lua

[willow ore]

Haven't run into mwscript yet. Is it a separate program?

[weary tendon]

its "the" scripting language of the construction set

you can attach scripts to objects or have them always run as a global script

[misty geyser]

you can do it!

[weary tendon]

the best guide for mwscript is "Morrowind Scripting for Dummies"

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/13969

With this and ChatGpt you can easily create functional mwscript

[willow ore]

But ChatGPT.

[weary tendon]

Well, it creates functional mwscript and quickly, so I dont see a good reason not to use it

Sometimes it will still hallucinate syntax or functions but overall it saves time

[willow ore]

I am a hippie. 8(

But we shall see! Through the foreword. >.<

[pearl furnace]

she's a nord and her name is Juespi Wee-Key

[willow ore]

A Guar!

[misty geyser]

and the maiden fair..

[weary tendon]

How about a genie in a bottle with fully scripted wishes that come back to haunt you?

so many ideas, so little time.

[arctic quarry]

People just cannot get used to new era for some weird reasons… it’s time to deal with it that AI is king for such tasks. Theres no coming back so why fight with it I wonder 😄

I mean, we are not making brainrot videos or some kind of any other wasteful shit

[weary tendon]

functional code in seconds

[arctic quarry]

Gives you more time to make the ideas happen🤝

[fickle crown]

You mean that the cat videos are not real?

[arctic quarry]

I am heavily against the slop ai videos, thats the true cancer of the ai

And they waste a lot more resources than producing code

And make the kids stupid

[fickle crown]

Images are often bad as well

[arctic quarry]

True but saves me some time for mod pics

🤣

[weary tendon]

depends on the ai tool used and how much effort was put into the prompt

if you use midjourney and good prompts the results are usually good

[fickle crown]

https://tenor.com/view/fruit-cat-liberty-cat-dancing-ai-dancing-cat-gif-8376363588070991531

[weary tendon]

I try not to watch short form videos

[queen timber]

Claude has created two who Lua mods for me with a single prompt. It’s insanely good compared to even 15 months ago

The latest one it created:

Fair Trade —
*Proportional Disposition — instead of the vanilla flat +1 per transaction, merchants gain disposition on a logarithmic scale: a 10g trade gives +1, 100g gives +2, 1000g gives +3. This makes the old cheese of selling 50 cheap items worthless (each gives +0), while actually rewarding meaningful trades. A daily cap of 5 per merchant prevents grinding.

Passive Mercantile XP — the player script monitors whether the vanilla Mercantile_Success skill-use fired during each transaction. If it didn't (meaning you accepted the price without haggling), the mod calls I.SkillProgression.skillUsed itself with 50% of normal XP, scaled slightly by transaction value via log10. If you did haggle, vanilla XP applies normally and the mod doesn't double-dip.*

It did it in a single prompt, and it worked flawlessly. Now I just need to manually tweak and balance and do the fun stuff

(Gonna be posting a showcase and a beta file this weekend, along with my other WIPs)

[queen timber]

I especially love AI for coding the grunt work like readmes, even experienced devs can see value out of it for creating certain task that would typically take a long time to manually type

[willow ore]

I am really more like, worried about the environment and the fact that we're trainign them with free slop and that they in turn put out slop. It's more of a "future people" worry.

They already found out that our ability to think creatively in children has dropped since AI became readily available. Read that in the NYT, I think.

Like "I just use it for writing prompts."

"I always edit the output!"

But in the mean time, people are literally fogetting how to create original content.

[queen timber]

That’s a big concern I agree. Imagine a generation of AI-iPad children 😱

My usage of AI is actively boosting my creativity/creative output, by allowing me to do more (both in terms of breadth and quantity) things than I otherwise could. It’s a phenomenal learning tool when used correctly.

I’ve learned more about lua scripting in a single week than the past 2+ years combined, at the added benefit of not needing another person’s valuable time spoon feeding me.

[willow ore]

I wouldn’t characterise basic skills teaching as “spoon feeding.”

Just like in terms of pedagogy.

Mad shout outs to the Gs who sat down and showed me super basics, btw.

[pearl furnace]

Weresifier. lua mod that gives every NPC a small chance to turn into a werecreature

[turbid minnow]

Splitting out "Can't sleep enemies nearby" and "Can't sleep wild creatures nearby"

I want to put wild creatures in some of these caverns I've been building, which are semi-wild, semi-inhabited, hence wild creatures aren't enemies in a this sense.

[pearl furnace]

you can't sleep outside in the bitter coast with the BC Sounds official plugin installed because the god damn night insects will not shut up

You can't sleep here, the animals are loud af.

[tidal crow]

You can't sleep here, Dwemer machines go THUNK CRASH

[celest blaze]

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58576 some throwables can functionally knock out enemies

[willow ore]

That’s a lullaby where I come from.

[celest blaze]

A mod that lets you try on clothes and armor before buying them

[misty geyser]

A mod that makes armour come in random sizes so you don't know if it will fit

[fickle crown]

I would expand on that. Random would be for container loot. For enemies, you would only be able to wear armour if it roughly fits your size (basically a spreadsheet for race and gender combos). Otherwise, you would have to pay the smith to modify it.

[misty geyser]

Similar to Fresh Loot but it's Used Loot

[fickle crown]

BRING ME THE BREASTPLATE STRETCHER