drg-board-game

[royal nacelle]

1. As soon as you connect a hidden cave tile to a cave that Dwarves are in, you reveal it, and populate it with what's on it. The pile of rubble is for stalagmites (there's an example picture for setup in the beginning of the mission book). It's described in the mission book.

2. Yes, drop pod leaves and comes back. Described in the "MOVE" section of the rulebook (page 12 if you have 2nd ed, I think)

3. Nope. You can use optional extra rules, page 27 (End of game - variants: ) to spice up the ending (drawing swarm card instead of event card when the drop pod returns).

[next gorge]

My Dungeon master just put us against a false hydra, my first time even hearing about one let alone fighting it, so I wanted to preserve some of that, tension lol

[lime jungle]

More eldritch horrors to come, oh my!

[sick python]

Ty

[kindred gale]

What

[hoary girder]

Ignore my voice in the background

[royal nacelle]

The small hidden caves don't have a set number of exploration tokens to place beforehand, as you can tell from the mission setups. You only place an exploration token if there's a flare.

[hoary girder]

Oh well

House rules

[kindred gale]

Problem solved

[royal nacelle]

Page 16 specifically states that you place a random pickup token on it when one is revealed with a flare symbol.

[hoary girder]

🤓🤓🤓

[dry niche]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-driller-satchel-charge-charge-throw-gif-12668204393087787311

[royal nacelle]

You're not fixing a problem. You're changing the rules.

[hoary girder]

House rules bro

Cry about it

[royal nacelle]

Sure, you're free to house rule, but it's not a problem, or error to fix.

[hoary girder]

When you put it like that

Yeah

Sry for being offensive

[royal nacelle]

I'm not crying about it, I'm merely pointing out that the rulebook specifically states that you only place the exploration token if there's a flare. You don't place it beforehand.

[kindred gale]

Wait then why is there a flare in the back in the first place

[hoary girder]

As i said, sorry

[hoary girder]

He is not getting out

[tacit yew]

this was what i thought at first too

its kind of annoying that only one of them has a weapon upgrade

if half of them had a weapon upgrade i would be fine with it but its only one

[proven saffron]

Can someone ping mods

Thx

[tacit yew]

this is amazing

i need one

[ember ledge]

how do you spell "wow, i'm jealous"?

[ember ledge]

i don't know where i would store it, but i would make space 🤣

[coarse fox]

Where did you get that

Did you make it?

[rough geode]

Custom made myself yes. I work is a steel shop

Here it is before paint

Made from aluminum

[oak wyvern]

Damn

That’s really good

[barren quartz]

That’s incredible, nice work. Gonna show this to my girlfriend as evidence I’m not the lone madman spending hours on end just to improve the game’s storage lmao

[rough geode]

Fight the good fight brother

[barren quartz]

How did you handle storage for the miniatures? Foam inserts or magnets or smth?

[spiral belfry]

Cool factor

It is Interesting that the real secret cave tiles all have a spot, but no mark on the back, yet the mini ones have a mark and (usually) no spot for the tile

[midnight maple]

That's the one problem I have with the newer secret cave tiles. If you roll a mission with both bet c and korlok tyrant (especially in the new industrial sabotage mission) you're going to be grasping for air midway through

[rough geode]

The drawers are the same size as the plastic mold trays they come in.

[warm thunder]

I hope Ghostship sees your creation and puts it in the spacerig.

[delicate seal]

Anyone got some fun custom missions? Looking to spice things up tonight.
I've got all the expansions so anything can go

[barren quartz]

I think they did it out of necessity for the small cave tiles. The usual secret cave tiles (the big ones) are the only tiles of that size & shape. So you can just put all the same shaped big tiles in a stack. But there are a couple other 3-space tiles that aren’t secret, so they have to differentiate them somehow - hence the mark.

[spiral belfry]

The only one without the back is the refinery which did come in the same expansion. Though I feel like they could have just printed the refinery on both sides and it would have been fine

[barren quartz]

I was gonna point out the dreadnought egg, magic hole, and minehead tiles are all the same size but yeah you’re right. Those are all double sided so I’m not sure why they didn’t just do that with the refinery too.

Oh wait, it’s probably so they can differentiate that these are random tiles specific to this expansion.

So any future expansions can have their own deck of random 3-space tiles that are easily distinguished by the symbol on the back

[spiral belfry]

Possibly, but truthfully that wouldn't make sense to me. If I'm mixing up the two, it's because I want it to be a mystery, otherwise I would only take from one pool

[barren quartz]

Fair enough, if you enjoy mixing the decks. Personally I enjoy that they made it intuitively simple to sort all the pieces back in to their respective boxes if players are so inclined.

[twilit hemlock]

So uhhh...
How is this supposed to be the easiest of Biome+rig missions?????

it soon ran out of swarm cards, only to shuffle and top deck bulk det, before we decided to call a pause because 2am

there should be another 20 grunts on board but we ran out of grunts a good uhhh hour before this picture

[urban iron]

You got a lot further into the mission than i got. I made 1 pipeline and we died

[delicate seal]

I saw a question on the KS where someone was commenting on the new expansion rules.
Was this in a project update?

Found it! Sorry 🫣

[wooden widget]

I feel like this game has one major crisis moment but then it gets easy. Not sure if RNG is on my side or missing some rules, but all of the missions we've tried, along with the pipeline extraction, went quite fast when focusing on objective.

Anybody else have that feel or is it just me playing the wrong way?

[stiff rivet]

I have the same feeling as you however, space rig can spice up a little bit the gameplay with the warnings, and like the video game RNG can make it very hard sometimes

[delicate seal]

Depends if it's solo mode.
Playing single player, 2 dwarves, was easier compared to the 4 player game I was in recently; Same mission, no nasty random tile as I was able to get back safely than when we maxed out the swarm counter.

I also think the mini expansions really threw some hard pivots in small caves/ tunnels.

[warm thunder]

Solo player moves waaay faster than 4.

Right before the 4th event card, a solo player could have moved a possible 36 tiles worth of movement.

In a four player game, in the same instance, every player could have only moved 9 tiles max. Additionally, every player can't do hardly anything for three entire events.

This is the difference in difficulty based on players.

I have a homerule that has worked out quite well: joint turns. In a 4 player game, two players get two actions each before an event card is played. Then the other two players go, with two actions each. When event cards are specific to "the active dwarf," we coin flip to see who is affected. Same with enemy movement if distance is the same.

This does make the game easier (because you're getting 4 actions in-between rounds instead of 3) but man it is so much more fun as everyone gets more playtime and the coordination is much smoother.

[urban iron]

That actually sounds pretty fun! though i rarely play with more than 2 players

[royal nacelle]

Particularly the mixed missions aren't exactly listed in order of what's easiest, and the difficulty ratings can almost be arbitrary due to RNG. Unless you've played the biome expansion a fair bit the new creatures can also be tricky, they're a step up from the base game creatures.

Same tactics still apply, you've left Engineer on their own for example, rather than being grouped up, and for on-site refining it's really just a race to get the pipes set up and pumping started before you reach the end of the swarm threat track. As such you have to pay attention to when you can/can't spend extra time going to explore small hidden caves or do mining.

Not sure if you're playing some house rules, or have something mixed up, but you shouldn't be running out of swarm cards, even with the additional rules you'd just lose if you run out of swarm cards at the end of the swarm threat track. Since you stop drawing event cards during pumping it's all about getting that started.

[twilit hemlock]

from our understanding, the rules for on sight refining said when pumping is finished you draw a swarm card instead of event card each turn. Unless we got this wrong this is what we understood was supposed to happen after rereading the rules like 4 times as well

As for engineer being down, I was with the driller, Gunner was alone in that mess next to spawn 2, Driller Left for 1 turn, suddently my suroundings went from 2 grunts, to a webspitter and pretorian and I lost 3 HP before it became my turn again going down, Driller then had to solo the Oppressor to get gunner up.

[royal nacelle]

When pumping is completed you draw a single swarm card, then go back to drawing event cards. So yes you misunderstood.

[warm thunder]

If I had a dollar for every board game rule I misunderstood, I'd be able to buy everyone a collector's edition.

[royal nacelle]

well someone on Reddit had to ask for help to figure out that the cave tiles are double sided. They couldn't find the 'dark' tiles used for Mission 6.

So yeah, misunderstanding a slightly convoluted step by step listing of OSR pumping is quite understandable in comparison xD

[spiral belfry]

Ah, the common culprit: rules mistake.

How do you run out of swarm cards? Did you even start the machine?

[twilit hemlock]

yep

[spiral belfry]

Reminds me of the days people thought bugs activated after every turn

[twilit hemlock]

I also like to use the house rule of final tile is swarms every event activation instead of instant death

ah no, I know that.

[spiral belfry]

A very fun alternate play style. I technically run that rule, but have only gotten that far once

I'm pretty good at judging my fellow dwarves skill, so we win pretty quick

[twilit hemlock]

the problem we faced was I was completely out of ammo and trying to get to a resuply I summoned earlier, only to die 1 turn before could,
While driller also left my side to revive gunner, a decision made while I was still alive

then I went down, driller was cornered, and had to kill oppressor frontally before he was allowed to revive gunner, while because miss interpreting rules, more and more swarmps spawning

[twilit hemlock]

we just passed the second swarm on the tracker when we started the pumps, and this insanity starting.

[royal nacelle]

I suppose it's difficult to spot such mistakes when you're in the middle of it just trying to play, same as with some players mistakenly only moving one tile per movement action. At some point one needs to step back and consider "is this right?", especially so when normally in a game you draw up to 6 swarms. And even with the additional rule there's no restocking the swarm deck, you just lose.

[twilit hemlock]

We reread the rules like I said 3-4 time som what's supposed to happen after pump finishes, it doesn't actually say to go back to drawing event cards, it ends with "draw swarm"

[royal nacelle]

It says to carry out the steps until extraction is complete. Once extraction is completed you shouldn't be doing the steps.

[twilit hemlock]

ya, like I said we miss interpreted the rules and now are dealing with the consequences

or where, we had to stop because 2am.
That was a 4-5 hour game somehow

[ember ledge]

that sounds like WORK 🥹

[somber sky]

Anyone up for tabletop simulator drg boardgame in like 2-3 hours?

@urban iron maybe you?

[urban iron]

Maybe, depends a bit

I will let you know

[twilit hemlock]

WIP.
finished Goo

[warm thunder]

I like the way you do your layers. Very painterly!

[twilit hemlock]

that was my bulk detonator

I'm not the best at blending yet....

[twilit hemlock]

Just gotta figure out what colours I need exactly for the goo bombers...

well yes, green square could work but looking at references, most seem grey or brown in some amount of it.

[barren quartz]

I made some damage cube holders for high health enemies

There’s a magnet hidden inside and I’ve magnetized all my miniatures so they gently stick together

[midnight maple]

Can you send the stl?

[neat mirage]

amazing

[viscid field]

Or publish the STL and send us the link to it.

[proven saffron]

I think an stl for something like this already exists online

I thought I saw one before on printables or some other site

Maybe not

[royal nacelle]

There's been a few different designs, yes

[barren quartz]

I don't have an STL unfortunately. I use a laser engraver so I just made a couple layers of 2mm horizontal slices but it should be pretty easy to convert this one to an STL or find an STL online.

[midnight maple]

You made it with a LASER?

That's cool

[barren quartz]

lol yep I started when I wanted to make a bunch of cutout inserts for the base of my pieces - it's a lot faster to cut stuff out than to print from nothing (if your 3d printer is as slow as mine)

For reference (this is also how the damage token holders attach):

[midnight maple]

That is really cool

I'm stuck in 2012 where in order to have lasers you had to be a scientist or buy a cheap laser pointer

[heady sinew]

That is honestly really cool.

[twilit hemlock]

ooo that would help alot

[royal nacelle]

reverse engineered it from the image, as I couldn't get the file to work. Seemed like 9mm squares for the cubes, not sure on the magnet size tho?

If anyone has a magnet size preference I can throw it into the model and send it over.

[barren quartz]

Good call on 9mm slots, I used 8mm because the kerf gives them just enough room but naturally that doesn’t work for 3d prints. I’d recommend some 12mm diameter neodymium magnets off of amazon, they’re just small enough to fit into a 2mm inset

[royal nacelle]

Laser also cuts a bit, but just now realized I sized mine for the larger bases, and yours might be a tiny bit smaller. I measured the drawing after rescaling it for 35mm hexagons, so looked closer to 9mm xD

[barren quartz]

Oh got it, yeah I originally tried both sizes but the board gets cramped enough already so 30mm side to side prevents the cubes from jutting out too far.

[royal nacelle]

aha. Well I can do a quick 30mm version

[midnight maple]

Can you send the stl?

[royal nacelle]

I'll leave that to @barren quartz

[barren quartz]

If you open up your DMs to people from this server or add me as a friend, I'll send em right over

Thanks to Johnno for making the STLs 😁

[barren quartz]

Laser cut acrylic also works

…it’s all the same, really. There’s no functional benefit to any particular material. This one is shiny, though

I can confirm MDF doesn’t work. It’s not rigid enough to hold the cubes, though plywood/acrylic/most any 3d printed filament will all work fine.

[fair flame]

What is the best way to make sure I don't miss out on late pledges?

[royal nacelle]

Turns out there's no late pledge this time as they're trying to get production and fulfillment done fast. MOOD have said they'll have preorders on their webstore at some point. Best way to not miss out is to keep checking at least weekly I suppose.

[urban iron]

Does that mean we will receive them earlier?

[royal nacelle]

Well the campaign page says "spring 2026" while MOOD have stated it's looking like January.

So earlier than we would've if there were late pledges and such.

[urban iron]

Thats amazing!

[worn lava]

that would be amazing to have it in January

[warm thunder]

Bosco was way more detailed than I thought, whew. Challenging paint!

[next gorge]

Pretty happy with this guy, need to work on my brush control but the lines are as clean as I could get em.

[warm thunder]

I need to learn how to clean up lines. I was so friggin' shaky with Bosco, you would'a thought a Bulk was busting through a cave wall.

[royal nacelle]

Painting from the inside out is what I mostly do. I paint the innermost parts, not caring if I paint across to where I don't intend, because when I come with the next paint I'll be able to fix what I messed up earlier. Find and angle where you brush can't reach the parts you don't want to paint, and you're golden.

[royal nacelle]

For example on your Bosco here, instead of painting him grey and then yellow, having the yellow spill over, you could paint his lights and center part grey, then angle your brush so it's coming from the outside, not reaching the grey aread, and paint the yellow. After that swap to grey again and paint the outside

[warm thunder]

Thanks for the tips

[hasty vortex]

So how long until the Tabletop Simulator workshop is updated with the new expansions?

[royal nacelle]

We have no info / ETA on that yet.

Rivals is pretty straightfoward to cobble together, as well as certain parts of Horrors of Hoxxes.

[hasty vortex]

Is anyone willing to drop a list of the tool upgrades from the rival expansion?

[royal nacelle]

For yourself that is, until we get an official update.

[royal nacelle]

You can grab the rulebooks yourself: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4444692

[hasty vortex]

Nice

My favorite is Tunnel Drone

Omigosh Rival Nemesis Mechanic

[hasty vortex]

Has anyone tried making a 3d model of the Tunnel Drone?

[lime jungle]

Doretta?

[lime jungle]

oooh right I'm blind

[royal nacelle]

Not yet, but easy enough to do. Could even use BOSCO as a base and add some drills. Can use the Driller's drillheads for example.

Or keeping with the theme that it's a rival piece of equip, I can check what the rival models have that'd be viable for kitbashing

[hasty vortex]

Nice work

[kindred gale]

Idk what a Tunnel Drone is, but it looks like something that would stalk you in the cave, steal your minerals and timidly escape when you look at it

[dark rampart]

Starting to paint allll those minis. This is gonna take a while.

[next gorge]

Love your supply pod

[dark rampart]

Thank you. Practicing a new painting technique.

[twilit hemlock]

What do you do to get the suttle gradients? still learning model painting

[proven saffron]

I 3D printed covers to snap onto the back of hidden cave tiles to hide and prevent scratches

This now eliminates my issue with my korlok tile being scratched

Now I can be properly surprised when flipping it

[scarlet narwhal]

yknow what thats a great way to get around the issues of the backs being scratched AND the korlok tile back having a different color

[daring yew]

Hey guys, how you go on about dreadnought being oneshoted by droppod, since it should kill anything it falls on.
Yes/No?
Or do you guys have any other way you play it?

[hasty vortex]

It's one of the excavation tools you can steal from the Rivals

[scarlet narwhal]

IIRC you can't place resupply pods on occupied spaces, and the since the presence of a dreadnought means the mission objectives are not done yet (as all official missions with a dreadnought require you to kill it as part of the objectives), this would not be possible for either of those in the board game, unless you wanna houserule it

but that would make the dreadnought fight trivial as long as you have 3 gold/nitra

[ember ledge]

[warm thunder]

Reminder that the video game and board game are thematically the same but are mechanically very different, so different rules and features are necessary.

[urban iron]

Just curious, where did they say this?

[upbeat oasis]

Yeah I'm wondering where they said that too
I'm glad to hear it and that does make sense considering that's the estimated shipping after backing

[kindred gale]

Does backerkit claims money when time to pay is up?

[ancient prawn]

Yes

like, they'll have a deadline, at which point, they'll charge whatever payment method you've indicated in your survey

same as kickstarter

[kindred gale]

Ah, thanks for that explanation. I was confused when backer kit said everything went thru but my bank didnt even locked the money

[ember ledge]

Update 14 @urban iron @upbeat oasis
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4457746
Was the update where they shared their new timeline. But I think that might get messed up by Kickstarter taking their time with the payment over time delay for a good portion of the backer population. No actual real update on that afterwards

Ah my mobile phone did show as if it had double send it but it didn't 😡

Original timeline https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/description

[midnight maple]

So march-may?

[vestal orbit]

Does anyone knows if a late pledge will be possible ? 🤔

[midnight maple]

@vestal orbit

[vestal orbit]

Too bad. I will find a way to grab the expansions at a later time

[urban iron]

Q1 is january-march, so if they send it out in that time we will have it by May

[merry aspen]

Kind of off topic sorry! I work in wildlife rehabilitation and this year's theme for our harbour seals is 'board games'. Does calling one "Deep Rock Galatic" seem stupid?

[royal nacelle]

One of the updates states 2026 Q1, and I can't find the specific comment mentioning January now. Maybe I just remember wrong, even so "by Q1" would still indicate earlier fulfillment than the original timeline, so we'd have the games January-March. But, all preliminary so far so let's see what their next update(s) say.

[ancient prawn]

wasn't it maybe in an email?

[royal nacelle]

I recall it being a comment on Kickstarter but yeah can't find it after a brief search so eh. We'll know more soon enough, even January is buncha months away.

[urban iron]

Alright, very excited

[ember ledge]

Update 14. Picture is above in chat

[ember ledge]

I remember a question by someone that asked if q1 meant January, and the answer was no.
Not sure if I remember correctly though

I did find this though

But it doesn't give an actual time, just a "definitely not before Christmas"

[royal nacelle]

🤷‍♂️

[ember ledge]

shipping march
delivery january 😄

[lime jungle]

Out of all the base game minis, which one is the most edible?

[worn lava]

the ones I print fresh on the resin printer

mmmmmmm uncured resin

[scarlet narwhal]

Stalagmites, they have precious minerals

[lime jungle]

Granite Smoothie, anyone? 🧋

[urban iron]

Interesting, considering they said it will be an earlier delivery it will probably be between january and march

[urban iron]

Grunt looks like he would taste like a gummy

[delicate seal]

Hi All, having issues looking at the combined mission PDF on BGG. My hard copy has a possible issue with the mission 2 drill dozer where it says web spitters emerge from the cocoons... but there arent any?

Is it thematic only, or should I be using the glyphid egg tokens?

[royal nacelle]

The one on BGG has been updated to correctly show the cocoons, as I recall (without looking at my hard copy) you just swap the poison spore fungus for cocoons.

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/285122/mixed-mission-book-updated-mission-2

[delicate seal]

Thank you, the website won't load weirdly for me 🫣 can't even log in.

[dire raptor]

Not a mini but I really want to eat the morkite

[scarlet narwhal]

hear me out tho, the aquarqs are blue raspberry flavor

[warm thunder]

Red sugar cubes

[cloud aurora]

Not done yet but done for the day. My first mini painting session and my first grunt painted! Too tired to continue for now

Also dry brushed the stalagmites, for anyone wanting to at least color them, it was super easy to do to get a good enough look

Much better than the bland grey

[lime jungle]

noooo itchy and prickly 🤮🌵

[barren quartz]

Agreed, dry brushing rocks (and stones) and crystals in this game with a lighter color seems to be the way to go

[jade wolf]

Hey! I’m not active here but I just wanted to share my excitement. I’m a big fan of Deep Rock and asked for the game for my birthday. The 2E base game is here now, still trying to understand the setup and rules before the party but even that’s pretty fun

[royal nacelle]

Driller's flames last until his next turn, and sentry gun shoots when creatures activate, move, or spawn in range. Those two rules are the main confusions that got muddled up with the rewrite between 1st and 2nd ed, else you should be good to go.

[steady tartan]

Quick question about the kickstarter campaign. It's possible to add acrylic tokens. Are they the ones already included in the 2nd deluxe edition? Or are they completly different? If they are different - do you think they are worth it? If I would purchase them for all editions it would be about 55€.

Additionally - I have not started sleeving DRG. Does the sleeve-add-on make sense, does it cover the whole game?

[scarlet narwhal]

I think those acrylic tokens are the same as the ones on MOOD's store, except for the new expansions (because they aren't there yet)

[scarlet narwhal]

the sleeve addons IIRC cover all expansions for the biggest pack. might be wrong on this tho

[royal nacelle]

Same type of token, but there's a new batch of them for the new expansions.

[jade wolf]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[cloud aurora]

Golden lootbug here!

(not complete yet)

[slender perch]

Golden Lootbug! We're rich!

[barren quartz]

The gold/nitra chunks came out really well, nice job

[cloud aurora]

Thank you, I didn't expect them to look good but turned out ok

The gold paint was quite nice, it was my brother's. Just need to correct mistakes with the grey color

It was quite easy to do

[warm thunder]

Can someone remind me, will there be replacement cards made for Goo From Above so they match everything else?

[cloud aurora]

I'm afraid not, Mood said the replacements were only for base game

Stop spitting!

It was quite a challenge to paint not gonna lie, almost done

[urban iron]

That looks like it came straight from the videogame! Amazing job!

[warm thunder]

I am le sad

[cloud aurora]

Thank you! It was hard to get the colors right, had to mix 3 times to get the best result

[upbeat oasis]

I wonder when we get the 3d files

[royal nacelle]

After everyone has paid I reckon, in November perhaps.

[royal nacelle]

ummm... maybe I need to add a few more sets...

Also pledge manager has been extended to the 19th, so go get yer extra dice folks.

[urban iron]

Those look so good

[ember ledge]

colours are a thing that might change. they plan to get them closer to our basic dice. (from a mood comment in the comment section of that post)

[main ridge]

Is the board game worth buying?

[ember ledge]

i love it. most here do 😄 so our biased consensus is: YES Very much!

you can test it on steams table top simulator (if you own the table top simulator) for free

i would describe it as a fun coop game that comes very close to the computer game, cannon & feel wise.

[main ridge]

Thanks for the info

[ember ledge]

the different classes you can play feel as unique as they do in the computer game. The enemies feel like a challenge that mimics the feel when a wave pops in ingame. Sometimes you get tested to your limits due to unlucky spawns. The expansions add more biomes and difficulty (-options) as well as customisation to the missions.

and each mission is fun to play. Usually selecting a mission with a simpler smaller cave means an easier mission (time to move from A to B is less so you can accomplish more in that cave)

more of the different mission types get added by the expansions

[urban iron]

Couldnt agree more

[ember ledge]

also it can be played by 1-4 players, so you don't have to find 4 people.

but a full house is always nice.

[urban iron]

I play with only my dad and its a blast

[eager cove]

Does the board game deliveries reach Canada? I'm looking forward to getting it

[ancient prawn]

can confirm, they do.

canada post has some quantum delivery tech though, so expect the "expected delivery" to be in the past of the future delivery transit that happens.

eg: #drg-board-game message

[supple mango]

the metal dice are an add-on?

[eager cove]

Thanks

[royal nacelle]

Yes

[supple mango]

how much are they? I have pledge over time so can't access the pledge manager yet

[royal nacelle]

€25 per set.

[ancient prawn]

According to the rewards and campaign page, the Premium set were part of the collector's bundle, pledge 4. (and the all in deluxe everything set, pledge 5).

Are you talking about additional sets beyond the first one included in the collector's?

[royal nacelle]

Yep

[ancient prawn]

excellent.

[royal nacelle]

I'm still fighting the urge to get 4 sets.

[ancient prawn]

understandable... given that each player would then have their own set in that case, and being premium, cardboard destroyer metal dice, having them not moved/shuffled around the table is not a bad idea.

[royal nacelle]

I had previously settled for 2 sets when I thought they were resin (as originally advertised), now it'd mainly just be future proofing/completionist to get extra sets xD

[lime jungle]

Didn't take much for me 😄

I see new dice on the kickstarter, I submit

[warm thunder]

I have a superpower that prevents me from overbuying.

It's called being poor

Get rekt

[lime jungle]

I bet they taste like skittles with a hint of lead poisoning

[coral turtle]

im having trouble finding the pledge manager

[ornate dock]

you can still get into debt though

[royal nacelle]

Are you paying over time?

[ancient prawn]

You should have an email inviting you to backerkit's pledge manager. Unless you're doing the deferred payments (the 3x payments over time). They will only send you the invite for the pledge manager when you're done paying for it, ie: after Oct 1st.

[vale spindle]

I have already caved 😆 (am getting flashbacks to the original campaign getting extra dice)

[royal nacelle]

I'm practicing my willpower, trying to consider if I need 8 sets of dice (we know I do)

[ebon flicker]

dicey situation

[ember ledge]

everyone in my household gets a dice tray handed with the metal dice. but i understand your concerns 😄 only trustworthy players will get the dice in hand

[ember ledge]

glad you are realistic about it. 😄

[ember ledge]

Mental note that i need 3 more dice trays -.- 😄

[lime jungle]

You like custom weapons. Maybe you can make one where you roll all 8 sets of dice for damage

[royal nacelle]

MIRV deployment, roll 16 explosive dice and distribute them within range 5 of target tile.

[spiral belfry]

Each must be applied to a different square (but not necessarily to different enemies)

[green garden]

I havent been here in ages, but I missed the deadline for pledging the recent expansions. They come back around for purchase again eventually right?

I don't remember them doing that, I was just hoping

[tacit yew]

yeah they will eventually

except for the exclusive stuff

[green garden]

Ofc ofc, thats only for the real ones

But thank you

[royal nacelle]

They're available for preorder on MOOD's webstore right now

[green garden]

Oh no kidding

[oblique wind]

is the board game worth it?

[scarlet narwhal]

Opinions here are pretty much always gonna be biased, but in my experience, yes, it is worth it

[lime jungle]

Don't listen to them. You should buy the entire set... NOW!

But jokes aside, I think it's a pretty fun game. Better with friends. You can always try it on Tabletop Simulator for free (Minus the cost of TTS)

You don't need the expansions to enjoy the game either. They are purely if you want to add those specific things to the game.

[warm thunder]

From the standpoint of thematics, it is everything you know and love surrounding our dwarven roughnecks.

Gameplay-wise, if being critical, the game is certainly far better than most IPs converted to board game form. There are some quirks that boardgamers are used to, such as turn-waiting, that feel almost diametrically opposed to the video game, but overall it's a fun solo and coop experience that echoes foundational roots from Zombicide.

[ember ledge]

would describe it as a fun coop game that comes very close to the computer game, cannon & feel wise.

the different classes you can play feel as unique as they do in the computer game. The enemies feel like a challenge that mimics the feel when a wave pops in ingame. Sometimes you get tested to your limits due to unlucky spawns. The expansions add more biomes and difficulty (-options) as well as customisation to the missions and new missions types.

Each mission is fun to play. Usually selecting a mission with a simpler smaller cave means an easier mission (time to move from A to B is less so you can accomplish more in that cave)
was my answer a few days ago 🙂

[barren quartz]

I’ve found the smaller expansions that you can mix into the base game make each playthrough more fun, whereas the large expansions that add game modes tend to give the game more longevity/replayability

All of them are a good value but if you don’t intent to buy everything from the start, I’d factor that into your decision

[warm thunder]

...wanted to toss this in as a HIGHLY EFFECTIVE homebrew rule to mix things up, though it does add a few minutes to setup. I have my swarm deck cards separated out into multiple piles, based on the creature itself. The base deck includes grunts/slashers/praetorians and the many random basic combos, then I have piles for each specific creature.

I roll the three green dice for each pile. 2 or more hits tells me to include the pile, and I prepare the mini for the possibility. 1 or less? Sorry creature, you won't show up this time!

I do this for high profile targets too like the Oppressor and Bulk Detonator.

It feels good knowing the enemy variety before the mission, helps prepare more uniquely in a way for greater gameplay variety. "Less is more" functionality.

Just thought I'd share.
I love love love changing up the creature odds, makes it feel more random.

[lime jungle]

I find it funny how all the bug minis are all "raah raah raah 🤬"

and the exploder is just like: 😬

[kindred gale]

Now that I think about it...

[warm thunder]

Molly, get over here!

[iron lintel]

Is there friendly fire in the Board Game?

[ember ledge]

some weapons have friendly fire dmg

[hasty vortex]

Perfect for when you want your funeral to be a sober occasion/j

[royal nacelle]

I recall the FAQ stating everything has friendly fire. I've always played with FF, but it very rarely happens.

[golden spire]

Quick question for fellow board game players:

do you assign lead storm dice to separate spaces like the CRSPR or to a single target like the BRT? Or you can pick single target or multiple spaces? Rule book didn’t really clear it up. Any help would be appreciated!

[rigid birch]

Hello! Streaming some DRG board game mini painting, this time it's a gunner mini made by @royal nacelle and some of his markers if we get into those over at https://www.twitch.tv/dreffbuilder

[scarlet narwhal]

unless it states otherwise (like the BRT), you can pick either a single target or multiple spaces. IIRC what the rulebook says for spreading dice for attacks is that the first dice must be assigned to a target you designate before the roll, and for 2nd and beyond it must be the same space or adjacent to your last die, though that last bit might be adjacent to any die. I'd have to double check

[golden spire]

Ok thank you very much!

[plush iron]

What's the policy on placing a stalagmite on the tunnel exits lmao

[barren quartz]

I think there may be some mention in the rules saying you can't choose to place stalagmites on exits

but even if there isn't, blocked exit tiles don't prevent bug spawns. They just mean you place new bugs in the next available spot near the exit (which usually results in bugs spawning closer to you)

[plush iron]

I figured as much, though I couldn't see any rule saying that you couldn't place it on an exit on a quick flip through. And given that it doesn't block spawns it would have to be a really niche tech if available to group them closer for AOE damage.

[steel wasp]

Ive played it as its not an empty space so not an option to choose (as it has a tunnel exit on it rather than just being blank)

[warm thunder]

Engineer's Turret!

[twilit hemlock]

finally painted the bodies

[warm thunder]

Does anyone have a go-to blending paint tutorial they know and trust? I'm getting ready to paint the dwarves themselves and I feel the need to research a bit more.

[worn lava]

https://youtu.be/GPXd95SLYmI?si=WQPlWveJB3yuyKm_ this is a technique I like to use for blending colors, it may or may not work for you

[warm thunder]

Nice, I watch a ton of content from this guy! And yet I haven't seen this video yet...thanks for the share!

[vernal veldt]

Hey folks, is there any news about a complete edition of the board game that includes all expansions? At least any plans/thoughts for its release?

[royal nacelle]

There was one during the recent Kickstarter

If you mean with its own box so everything's together, then no, the FAQ said they've no current plans to make an all-encompassing box. You'd have to get all-in bundle pledge during the Kickstarter, or just get everything retail.

[ancient prawn]

Also, an all encompassing box would be the size of a mini fridge

[ember ledge]

we will all eventually accept that we will need one cupboard just for the DRG:BG

how many people does it take to carry an all encompassing box?

• Steves: 1 (Steve is awesome and can do anything)
• Dwarfs: 4 (It's a job for the whole team)
• moving company: 1 should do

[warm thunder]

One file cabinet, problem solved.

Reference: #drg-board-game message

[ember ledge]

that is out of reach for me. other than that: the perfect solution

[twilit hemlock]

I've heard this can help with mixing

it makes the paint thinner without messing with the pigments like water can do

there's also the other product I don't like saying the name of but helps make your paint dry faster. but that's kinda thr oposite of what you want

[warm thunder]

Thank you

[twilit hemlock]

This is the other product. I know in this case it's the right thing but man my brain does not like it

[lime jungle]

Like a medium

[midnight maple]

Has the pledge manager opened for the people who payed in installments?

[ancient prawn]

I just found the possible source for the Jan 2026 "delivery" date

It's in the receipt of the email confirmation for the installment pledges

[ancient prawn]

I just paid my last installment a few minutes ago and I haven't received the pledge manager yet

[royal nacelle]

It's on some of their webstore's preorder products as well, while others say march

[warm thunder]

I'm just thrilled it's before the end of next year, which was how long we waited last time. Huge improvement being the first quarter, let alone the first half!

[worn lava]

Very excited ship time estimate, lets just hope the cost estimate is also decent lol

I really hope its what they estimated and not what Kickstarter estimates

[royal nacelle]

If Kickstarter is giving you an exceedingly high estimate simply contact MOOD.

They can adjust it once they have your address.

The estimated shipping costs are on the campaign's main page. Those are the ones you can expect.

[worn lava]

Any word on when they plan to start charging for shipping?

[worn lava]

ive seen those, I just figured with tariffs here in the US it might skyrocket the cost

[ember ledge]

supposedly(!) when pledgemanager closes. i expect another update about it. So far it would be 3 weeks+ after we get pledge manager access (for those people that get access now)

"Another reminder: We will charge your cards for shipping at the beginning of November—we will, of course, give you a heads-up before it happens. "
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4484849
i do not know if it goes for all people who plegded or just for the pay over time people

[ancient prawn]

Well, given that there's a general (read: total) postal strike right now happening here in Canada, I'm glad we're not getting it sooner... but I expect some wierdness at that point

[ancient prawn]

generally, they charge for shipping when the pledge manager closes... so something like early/mid-november

Pledge manager/backetkit works on a single drop and single source of information, so there's going to be a delay thanks to us "installments" people. sorry aboot that, eh?

[supple mango]

I thought the metal dice were add-on only, but they're included in the collecter's bundle. Nice

[delicate seal]

cooooor £65 shipping and VAT 🫨 wish it was click and collect haha 😂

[stuck marsh]

yup same. so i added a second set to completely replace the two sets of plastic that we normally use

[worn lava]

mine was £49, not as bad as I thought it would be considering I did all in lol

[delicate seal]

you must be near a distro center as I didnt get that much :L

[worn lava]

probably, I am only an hour from Chicago

[twilit hemlock]

the email from MOOD Publishing is legit correct? Never had to go through them to get shipping done for the previous 2...

[royal nacelle]

I checked my email and all my 3 survey response needed emails came from MOOD.

[twilit hemlock]

they're asking me to confirm my mailing address and card details for shipping, which are already done so on kick starter... which is why I'm asking

[royal nacelle]

I'd have to look at the email in detail to make any sort of comment then. If you don't think it's legitimate either ignore it, or email [e-mail] and ask them.

[twilit hemlock]

Alright

[kindred gale]

I thought so too, now no one gonna run out of metal dices at my table 🙃

[verbal aurora]

rq, if i finnished my backerlit and quickly went a few pages back and updated the purches and finished it again
will i be billed twice or is the bill updated

[warm thunder]

Part 1 of my first dwarf. Got the base coat and a wet wash. Part 2 will be highlighting and edging. (Why am I nervous?!)

[warm thunder]

Pretty freaking happy with the end result, woo!

Some observations: Wish the brown leather straps were more pronounced, it's a fun little detail. Color smoothing is hard, but I like the gritty look!

[vale spindle]

It will just update the bill with any extras you have added if any. You shouldn't be charged twice.

[past sequoia]

I have a crazy idea and I'm curious what people think here. So I'm trying to find a way to play this game with up to 8 people. I already have a deluxe version of the game but I was gonna get a base version aswell mainly for the second board and dwarves. My thinking is put the boards together, paint the yellow rig space between the boards so it's just more hexagons and mirror the mission but connecting the maps in some way. So each group of 4 or 3 would start on seperate ends of the map so it wouldn't get too claustrophobic on the board. And to keep the pace of the game smoother 2 people on opposite sides of the table would go at the same time and only pull one event card each turn.
Idk it's all theory rn because I don't wanna buy another version of the game lol but I think a massive 8 player game would be alot of fun. Please let me know what you think. Or if you have any ideas.

[past sequoia]

Looks really awesome!!

[royal nacelle]

People have already smushed together two boards, but instead of painting or in any way modifying the boards they simply put some of the cave pieces to align between the boards, so you move from one board to the other in one of those caves. Not 8 player as I recall but 4 player double length mission basically. But 8 players with 2 playing at the same time could be doable yea.

Then effectively use the swarm threat tracker of both boards, one after the other.

[past sequoia]

Ooooh 1 long mission sounds pretty cool, I just got the biome expansion and I'm wanting to try a multi biome mission.

[warm thunder]

Gunner! Holy crap I am proud, never painted eyes before!

[warm thunder]

Engineer finally finished, whew. This one was the hardest so far with all the leather and metal details, but satisfying! (Reposted because I saw problems with the hair in the last shot and had to fix.)

[verbal aurora]

oh! okay cool thanks! :D

[ancient prawn]

There, finally finished the backerkit survey

[warm thunder]

Lights up!

[scarlet narwhal]

not complete without him in a c4 crater

[hazy salmon]

Does the warden's shield protect itself too? We play with it that way but it quickly becomes a problem when only the gunner and driller's base attacks have enough damage to kill it

[royal nacelle]

No it doesn't

[twilit hemlock]

Menaceies

[ionic widget]

Hey I missed the last expansion kickstarter but I saw the mixed mission book, is that what I think? Mission type like escort but happening on biomes?

And how can I buy it separately if it's available yet?

[scarlet narwhal]

its available on MOOD's official store for $18, or you can download the PDF of the book for free on Board Game Geek, though you will not get the mission cards meant for the space rig expansion that way

[ionic widget]

ight thank you, I was probably gonna buy it even without the cards just cuz I like having stuff physical

[scarlet narwhal]

should have clarified, the cards come with the physical book

[ionic widget]

yeah I got that

[storm peak]

do y'all share some brush work here?

[warm thunder]

I love how you painted biome variants! If I had more money and time, I'd buy the whole game multiple times over to do this.

[bright tartan]

Wow they look amazing!!

[storm peak]

thank you! yea i'm pretty bad at painting the same thing 7 times in a row so i had to

[twilit hemlock]

so apparently my meneces got scratched and paint chipped off from them sitting untouched on my desk during the time I was waiting for the paint to dry to put varnish on them....
Sadness

[royal nacelle]

Sounds like abrasive atmosphere..

[twilit hemlock]

it as only along edges, like it was scrapped against something

[twilit hemlock]

Tyrant weed

[warm thunder]

All the boxes

[lime jungle]

Out of all the available models, which one looks the most POLITE and RESPECTFUL?

[warm thunder]

Bosco

[scarlet narwhal]

the Mactera Spawn, they are just waving hello

[warm thunder]

Praetorians just looking for a high five amirite

[bright tartan]

Whereas the spitball infector is laughing at us

[lethal abyss]

Will the bulk detonator and tyrant weed packs come back?

[scarlet narwhal]

probably when the new expansions are done with backer fulfilment if I had to guess

[dawn ibex]

Did this guy just with speedpaints and white acrylic for dry brush

[ancient brook]

Hello folks, is there anyway I can get just the 4 minis of the dwarves?
I would love to get them as Characters for my Leagues of Votann Army for 40k but buying the whole boardgame just for that is something I can't really afford right now.

[ancient brook]

Btw these 2 looks so cool

[ancient brook]

and all this is awesome too

so much cool minis in this channel. Rock and Stone

[storm peak]

there's slt files out there if you have a printer and there's a box that costs half as much as the one with the minis which has just the dwarves minis

cost like 80 € in europe, no idea about na

[royal nacelle]

You can pay for the STL files from MOOD, and then outsource 3d printing if you can't print them yourself. They'll need to be scaled down to fit, since they're 40mm scale. They'd be monstrously huge compared to your Votann.

If you want the original minis and want to go the cheap route you might be able to find a used Standard edition on ebay or something.

[ancient brook]

Thank you both. 2nd hand Standard editition or the stl files are probably the way to go for me then.

and thanks for the downscaling tip.

[royal nacelle]

old timey marine on 25mm base, as comparison.

[ancient brook]

Oh damn. I see. 😅

[bright tartan]

""Dwarf""

[keen hamlet]

Old DW were on 25mm bases? Wow.
Wonder if the DRG dwarfs would make a neat proxy for the Kin....ideas for later.

[warped coral]

I got the 2nd edition of the goo from above but it doesn't seem to have any explanations of how they work other than the stat card that shows hp movement and range

am I missing something?

even under the box it doesnt explain how they work

thankfully I was able to play with an image I found online from the 1st edition

[royal nacelle]

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/283811/goo-from-above-creature-info-sheet

It was omitted from 2nd ed boxes due to some error while introducing the creature cards

[warped coral]

oh alright

thanks for answering my question!

at least they dont have complicated rules so it's easy to remember

[coarse fox]

Beautiful firstborn right there

[regal narwhal]

what do you do in the board game, is it similar to the video game

[lime jungle]

You mine stuff, you shoot stuff, you get outta there

[raven fern]

Yes, though it's turn-based and the enemies (usually) get fewer turns. Some aspects are changed to adapt to the format of board games (like specific pickups, like barley bulbs, granting "rock and stone" cards, which then can be used to help the team), but that's expected.
The missions are also almost the same: get in, mine stuff, kill stuff, get out. Though, each mission has specific events.

It's very cool imho.

Guys, I got a question about the material of the board game:
I'd own the base game and an expansion and I'd like to have a digital copy of the rulebooks (for quicker lookup, so that all players can look up stuff they need). I would like to avoid scanning the rulebooks, because I'd have to bend them too much and I don't want to damage them. Are there digital versions for download? (I imagine not, because that'd make the game playable for anyone without paying, I it's worth to ask. 😅 )

[royal nacelle]

MOOD have uploaded all the rulebooks to Board Game Geek (as well as rules for Goo from Above); https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/348220/deep-rock-galactic-the-board-game/files

Click the expansions tab and then files for the different expansion.

[raven fern]

Amazing, those guys proof yet again how awesome they are.

Thanks!

[warm thunder]

Also, the online rules/missions are updated beyond the printed books. Not sure if this is weird or not but I have all my printed books in storage and use the downloaded ones for playing.

[lime jungle]

Keep them next to my mint condition Marvel comics they gonna be worth BILLIONS I tell ya

[dawn ibex]

will fix the goggles eventually

[warm thunder]

I love how bold your colors came out! If I might nitpick, there's a little bit of mustache that looks like it could be touched up as well. Regardless - even if you didn't clean this up - you've done incredible work sir.

[dawn ibex]

I will once I have access to acrylic colors again hehe

was on vacation and only brought speedpaints and white acrylic to fix major issues

[mint badge]

Man, i may be telling on myself but I have to admit to engi's suit looks comfy af

[warm thunder]

My wife just told me my engineer paint job looks like Dr. Eggman and now I'm upset

[tacit yew]

lol

[spiral belfry]

The engineer is eggman tho. That's not really the fault of a paint job

[raven fern]

Hey guys, I've got a question for you all: Do your runs take a long time?
I've got two players who CONSTANTLY complain (, they also praise the game design, as they should, but they also vehemently complain) about he waiting time for each round.

The way I like to play is:

1. Think what would be best as a team at all times
2. Advise each other (both "give advice on their turn" and "take their advice on my turn") without overstepping boundaries (like if they don't want the advice)
3. On my turn, collect ideas about what to do
4. Execute my turn
   I feel like this way everyone is involved in everyone's turn, eradicating waiting time. It also allows for constant planning, keeping the plan dynamic and adjustable, without having to know what other players think without them communicating that, and without having to know the best (if that even exists) or guess the most likely course of action for each player to take until it's my turn, because each idea that doesn't come to my mind can come to someone else and they tell the rest.
   Thus, quickly finding a consensus on the plan on each turn seems like the most agreeable playstyle to me.

If I get it correctly, the other two players would like to let everyone play individually, knowing on their turn exactly what to do both without missing a beat and while avoiding sub-optimal moves.

Maybe people smarter than me can do that, but I can't, so I'd like to know: Do you have any tricks for speeding up gameplay?

[royal nacelle]

Unless they're first time players what'd most speed up play I reckon is not coming to a consensus, nor having a specific plan other than try to stick somewhat close to eachother and keeping the main mission in mind. Lot quicker instead of having to discuss everything. I usually discuss a preliminary plan at the beginning, and then we get to it, don't need to discuss during each player's turn, nor really gather ideas on what to do. If everyone knows the basic actions it'll flow pretty easily.

I've only noticed the game slowing down with 4 players, and then particularly with indecisive ones who have a hard time deciding for themselves what to do. Sure can guide them a bit by giving suggestions, but play speeds up once people know how to play.

Ultimately if people complain that the turns are taking too long then perhaps a different game with simultaneous play would suit them better, if they're that impatient.

[ancient prawn]

I echo these sentiments

the first few games were lenghty. the most recent games i've played with people were quick and effective

it helps if people get very familiar with their roles and abilities as their chosen class

[summer reef]

Generally if you wanted a fast pace board game, you're pretty much limited to something about as complex as 'Sorry' or something else that's very generic.

[lime jungle]

I feel like even though I'm playing friends and we choose our own dwarves and builds, we all end up controlling each dwarf together

So even if it's technically not your turn, you're still engaged with the game and doing something

[summer reef]

Most often, any game can be fun as it just depends whom you are playing with that truly matters.

[lime jungle]

or you can put on a timer per dwarf

[raven fern]

Thank you, guys! It's nice to know both playstyles are valid.
I've yet to play with less than 4 players and not answer questions from my players I don't fully know how to answer. (Avoidable rulebook lookups surely also take a lot of time, but while searching for strategies online I learnt Scouts can use their flare gun as the movement action's free ranged attack for some reason... Where does it say that? I think some parts of the rules could be more clear about that. My point: Even though I've played every standard mission at least on haz1, some things are still not clear, let alone commited to knowledge.)

As for things to speed up gameplay, I noticed it may sometimes be useful to disengage and let another dwarf (with more hp) take the lead. The problems I see here:

1. If I am in the front and want to go back, but there is nothing to mine, nor enemies to kill nearby, the actions of my turn seem wasted.
2. Between the turns of the players who want to change between front- and backline there may be up to three events, which might result in a setback avoidable by not changing.

Do you have a strategy for how you switch initiative like that?

Also, do when pairing up, do you match (or avoid) specific classes? (Like Engineer and Driller, because then one team would not have an aoe weapon)?

[royal nacelle]

Scout's flaregun : Says so in 2nd ed rules, and the first FAQ video MOOD/Ole posted way back when.

1 - 2 : You've created an unnecessary "frontline / backline" tactic. You can be side by side, or even just one tile apart; as creatures follow strict rules they'll attack the closest Dwarf. If you're in danger of being overrun, ie enough creatures that you both might get hit, then you'd want to be closeby anyway. Use AoE or crowd control to take out/control more enemies.

It's not useful for you to waste your actions, nor go stand in the back with nothing to do. So only way to avoid that is not do it.

If you need to step back then have Gunner drop shield, Driller can use flame wall or free action freeze, or sludge puddles, Engineer can set up the sentry gun as bait. If anything it sounds like you're being a bit too careful with who's at front/focusing too much on health. Don't really start need worrying until you're down to 2 health, and be careful ahead of time not to get into that situation.

As for classes it's far more enjoyable for everyone just to pick what they prefer to play, than trying to optimise. At least once you're used to the game there's little need for optimisation, and you can rather do it on a character basis, Scout picking an AoE weapon as secondary, Driller picking a long range secondary to offset their primary weapon's short range, and so on.

[raven fern]

My caution with health and the front-/backline idea comes from my most recent game, in which one of the mentioned players was following me and had to pick incapacitated me up twice. Them being forced into a support role frustrated them, so I thought a strategy for switching could help with that. (I wasn't careful ahead of time. 😅)

What would you advise one does in that situation?

[royal nacelle]

Health is something you have to balance across the team, and once someone goes down unless you get a resupply in or find red sugar, or have a heal R&S card, you're likely gonna have to keep picking them up if others aren't soaking up the damage.

The player following you should've been up front after the first incapacitation, instead of you getting up and storming ahead.

If anything I'd suggest trying to take out enemies as a group, and not having a front seat / back seat tactic, rather going shoulder to shoulder, throwing out crowd control/AoE when necessary as a precaution even. Setting up sentry gun near tunnel exits, even goo puddles/flames in advance.

If you've ended up splitting into two groups in a 4 player game just to cover more area faster it would be best if both Dwarves can deal with any enemies that show up, or at least freeze/stun/block them as necessary.

Of course, can't expect every Dwarf to be capable of handling say an Oppressor on their own, but should be able to freeze/stun/flamewall it at least, to wait for backup, rather than getting ROFLstomped while the others try to make their way to you.

[raven fern]

Yeah I realize now that I need to consider the should-to-shoulder approach more. Thanks!

[royal nacelle]

Not necessarily attached at the hip always being adjacent to eachother, but certainly within firing range for reaction attacks, and being able to move for one action and then fire on anything that has spawned near someone else.

[ember cobalt]

I have a question about the recent Kickstarter expansions

Do we have an ETA on when they will be finished or are we still unsure?

[royal nacelle]

Finished? As in delivered/fulfilled? They've said Q1, likely toward March.

[ember cobalt]

Yeah, delivered

So March? Ok

[royal nacelle]

Until we hear more, you can expect march yea

[ember cobalt]

Ok, thanks mate

[lime jungle]

The Valheim Board Game is in the middle of dispatch so they possibly focusing on either DRG or Goat Simulator now

[spiral belfry]

The president has potentially delayed my game, this is tragic

[warm thunder]

That's quite the conversation starter. Careful.

I'm still thrilled we'll be seeing the game as soon as we are. Even if delayed, the overall turnaround from the start of the campaign to being delivered is waaay sooner.

[ancient prawn]

sips maple syrup from his log cabin, watching his caribou and geese graze the wild grasses around my 100 acre land

Excellent.

[lime jungle]

Gamer oppression 😤

[raven fern]

Hey guys, I'm making a cheat-sheet, because I forget the rules all the time. However, I don't find many sources online (but, luckily, you guys have already sent me the download link to some sources) and they still manage to contradict each other. My best guess is some of those rules are from the first edition.
I'm currently going through the second edition rules, have already watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLd3_5b0Tho and will be checking https://moodpublishing.com/pages/deep-rock-galactic-faq afterwards. However! I wanted to ask:
Is there a more recent video of the whole gameplay, explaining all rules along the way, but also from an official source? (I don't want to fall for some homebrew rules or interpretations without knowing.)

[royal nacelle]

That video is from 1st edition, and no they haven't made a second video explaining all the rules, nor even what has changed. The official FAQ may or may not be out of date as well.

I'd recommend picking either 1st or 2nd edition rules, and sticking to them, without looking at others' interpretations unless necessary. You're free to make up your own interpretations as well, considering we often end up in back and forth discussions here, and not everything makes it into the FAQs.

[raven fern]

Thank you. I see. Now knowing this, I'm a little stumped.
In my humble opinion, I'm rather new to boardgaming and this is the first boardgame-community I am a part of, so please tell me: Are there usually many discussions and a lack of consensus about the interpretations of minute yet relevant details of the interpretation? The designers are already doing more than I'm used from other boardgames (with the videos and FAQ and such). Having a community actively discussing must also be good for the game's lifespan, which makes me happy.

I also must admit I don't know about you guys' interpretations and differences of those. How well are you organized? 😅 Should I just go around asking people? Do different, larger groups have their interpretations already written down somewhere?

[royal nacelle]

More often than not it's theoretical discussions about edge cases that don't appear in normal play. And most of it can be avoided by not intentionally doing something that's unclear (intentionally going onto black ice that slides you into a wall, comes to mind).

A lot of questions are also things that are either explained, or not explained in the rules, and that people ask anyway, because they've assumed otherwise. Like "do exploders destroy walls?". If they did it'd have to say so in the rules (like it does for the Bulk Detonator), but many assume ahead of time, then can't find it in the rules, and end up asking.

Last few discussions have been about things that nobody has done for 3 years, only for someone to suddenly come up with a theoretical thing that's not technically ruled out and the wording can be interpreted as it not being forbidden. Like ziplining into a wall, where only a Driller would be able to use the zipline by doing a drill-move into the wall after the zipline use.

And some things just come down to if you want to make the game easy, or not, like how many shields can you pull out of a resupply pod. One per time you take at least one supply means that you can pretty much make Dreadnought encounters utterly facile. Personally I prefer only one shield per resupply.

I don't think there's any public/community list of agreed upon rules that've been ambigious, it's moreso down to individual preference. You can ask if something's not clear enough, or if you think there might be multiple interpretations, but yeah you'll get different answers depending on who you ask, and may need a bit of a discussion to actually figure out the different approaches.

[raven fern]

I think it was you who I've already talked about some clarifications of the rules with. Iirc, you told me back then that the rules were permissive, so I can only do what the rules state and if they do not state I can do what I want to know whether I can do it, I should assume I cannot. I've not quite understood my error in that, which is why I'm uncertain which questions of mine (that I couldn't answer using the materials) I can ask without annoying you guys here. 😅

Like the thing about ziplining into a wall: Although it is not stated in the rules, I think the target space of the zipline must be a tile where dwarves (not just the driller) can move into (on or through), so it cannot be a wall anyway.
I fully believe I will have most of the rules in mind (or on my cheat sheet), but unless I can derive answers to not explicitely answered questions like I did here, I'm somewhat bound to come back and ask here. 😅

For example, I've recently gotton my hands on the spacerig expansion and the beer we got on our first game, "Tunnel Rat", let us move into freshly excavated wall spaces. It says "move [...] for free", which made me think: "It is free move action, limited to a specific spot." But, then again, the Scout's ability "Light-Footed" grants them a free ranged weapon attack, free throw action, or free Flare Shot. So I ruled that the Scout also gains one of those free actions after making use of walking into the wall because of the beer. Does that make sense?

This is also an example of what you already said: It comes down to whether people want to make it easier or harder for themselves.
I'm a fan of these emergent synergies, but I tend to misinterpret them and I want to avoid skewing the original experience the game (and their designers) should (or want to) provide.

[royal nacelle]

Does say in the rules that scout's light-footed is "after a move action", and pickaxing isn't a move action, even if you were to get to move for free with tunnel rat beer.

[raven fern]

Alright, so I'll just ask here and see where the discussion leads to.

[royal nacelle]

There's a R&S card that allows for a free move action, but it specifically states something along the lines "including any class benefits" or somesuchs, allowing for Driller to use drill move, and scout using light-footed

[raven fern]

I think I might have finally understood my problem with this "permissiveness" of the rulebook.

By explicitly declaring the class abilities available, we do not have to worry for any other rules. One just reads the card and executes it, ignoring everything else unless stated it is relevant to the execution of the card. This makes it easy, because one does not have to keep anything else in mind.
On the other hand, I'm used to the aforementioned "emergent synergies", as I'd call them: All previously stated rules apply unless stated otherwise. It is exciting to explore them and beautiful in writing too, as a lot of rules become implicitly true, reducing redundancy. Though, if that was the case for DRG, the addition "including any class benefits" would be redundant (which is why I probably ignored it) and instead the cards without (like the beer) would have to have the addition "class benefits to not apply" (which, in a sense, means, even this emergent/implicit style can be more redundant).

So, am I right to assume, that, in DRG, it boils down to: "Does it say you have to keep your class benefits in mind? No? Then don't do it!"?

[royal nacelle]

Permission based is more like rules say what they do, there's no long list of how things don't work. If there's an exception then it'll say it doesn't, whileas that particular R&S card states that class benefits apply because it's specifically a free action, which is an exception to your normal turn function.

It doesn't have to be stated anywhere that Scout doesn't get light-footed when forced to move, since it's not a move action. Like being pushed by a creature, or wind tunnel, or anything of the sort. So just the same it doesn't need to be said if he does/doesn't get light-footed on Tunnel Rat, since it's not a move action. If for some reason light-footed were to apply on a move that's outside the Scout's turn/control (ie not a move action), then it'd have to say so.

Just the same that Driller doesn't automatically drill into a wall when he's pushed by a wind tunnel, it's not a move action so he can't drill move. Doesn't need to be stated that he can't do that, since he can only do so during his own moves.

[raven fern]

If we agree that it is not a move action, then I agree with you, but I cannot yet agree, because I do not know: Why is it not a move action?

• Because it is defined on a beer card and therefore and extension (and thus not part of the basic rules for movement)?
• Because it is limited (to 1 space, in a specific direction, and bound to have the pickaxe action before)?

Things that do make me think it is a movement action:

• All exceptions (action being free, action being limited etc) are specifically stated, such that the core movement action can be taken as a template and this similar action is somewhat of a descendant.
• "[...] allows you to move into that space for free." (allow -> there's still control, unlike with a wind tunnel, I assume; move -> it is movement of the dwarf; for free -> it would usually cost, further indicating it is an actual movement action)

In German we say "Die Ausnahme bestätigt die Regel" ("The exception confirms the rule"), which means that, by defining an exception, a differentiation from the rule (or the pattern) is elevated as such and the rule still usually applies. The beer card refers to movement and action economy and also defines this exception from the general rule, meaning, to me, it sounds like: "This is a movement action, but different, but still considered a movement action".

[royal nacelle]

Well, these are the exact kind of theoretical discussion that people end up with, I don't know a single person who has previously argue that Scout gets light-footed on that beer card because everyone knows what a move action is.

Personally I view that move as an extension of the pickaxe action, it's not a move action. You're doing a pickaxe action and are allowed to move into the space you pickaxe, and that's specified because you normally aren't allowed to do that.

If you want to play that way feel free to, you can do the same for forced moves, since it says move.

[raven fern]

So, the main points I got from that last message of yours are:

• My question is stupid and I should feel stupid.
• It's (according to your personal opinion) part of the pickaxe action, not an additional, limited, free movement action (though I don't see how the phrasing makes this the necessarily better interpretation).
• My question is stupid and I should feel stupid (again).

[warm thunder]

No one is calling you stupid.

[ancient prawn]

uhh... no?

you took that way more personally than Johnno meant or intended.

i think you need to decouple your own personal bias from this, and look at it objectively. "You" in his statements, aren't directed AT you, they indicate the general "you", as in "people".

Your questions aren't stupid and you shouldn't feel stupid for asking them, just like you shouldn't assume Johnno is treating you like he thinks you're stupid.

[raven fern]

I can read between the lines. But that's okay, the example they brought earlier seemed clear to me, too, so I can relate. For them to be involved in a discussion about something so obvious must be frustrating.

[ancient prawn]

You're not "reading between the lines" you're injecting inferrence and personal bias based on perceived tone. That's a subjective reaction to language used.

[raven fern]

I think they might be fed up with me, that's all. 😅
We had that a couple of months back, too.

[neat mirage]

There's some projection and Johnno can sound too cold as well for a lot of people

it's both

let's not make assumptions, it's for the better

[lime jungle]

I do sometimes find it difficult to understand tone or emotions through ones written text. However I, as do other patreons of the forum, may agree with the interpretation that it is not one of hostility. I believe the questioner should not feel offended nor belittled, as it is only an answer for their unknowing, heed it be one that they may not be hoping for. This is a public communal where such questions may be asked and answered only to grow the shared knowledge of our similar interests. I may kindly ask all of you to only feel welcome and support, as we do not need such negativity in this public space nor our personal lives; it is simply not worth it.

In writing this, I would also like to thank the Questioner for opening up to the public and sharing what they wish to understand better of. I believe there are many others with the same question, but you were the first to ask of it. I would also like to thank the one who answered these dire questions with haste.

[naive elk]

Dream come true ❤️‍🩹

[naive elk]

47 padges of instructions

Its going to be a long night...

[tough ridge]

My economic situation has stabilized- are they accepting late pledges

[ember ledge]

pledge manager might be open for a tiny bit more (they already wrote the last call email a few days ago). but one only gets access to it if one had pledged 1$ or more to the actual KS campaign

[tough ridge]

Craaap.

[ember ledge]

they have preorders up in their shop iirc

[tough ridge]

Oh

Not ideal but significantly better thank you

[midnight maple]

I had a funny but not impossible thought that a member of MOOD lurks in this server and occasionally checks in to see what we're blabbing about

[royal nacelle]

Ole lurks, not sure if MOOD does.

[midnight maple]

Ole?

[royal nacelle]

Ole Steiness, the board game's designer.

[midnight maple]

Oh that's cool

[worn lava]

Johnno, random question but how have you come to know so much about this boardgame

genuinely impressive

(tho I admit bad example of info since it can be googled)

[royal nacelle]

I enjoyed the video game a lot and then got hooked on the board game, so played it a lot and whenever someone asks a question if I don't already know off the top of my head I go look it up. Repeat that nearly every day on Kickstarter/BoardGameGeek/here on Discord, plus I haven't played much else for about 3 years.

Plus going through the rulebook to give anyone asking a question a page/text reference instead of "trust me bro" has lead to me knowing the rulebook quite well.

[boreal pasture]

Lurker here! 🙂 @royal nacelle is right, I drop by occasionally, to check for (loot) bugs when I have time. Johnno is fantastic, I am sure he knows the rules better than me at this point!

Just got back from Essen SPIEL, meeting a lot of DRG fans while demoing the game. Also got to preview the early copy of the upcoming expansions for the board game - looks awesome, especially the new minis. I like the Shockwyrm, that was actually an idea from MOOD (like the Stingtail).

Anyways, awesome to meet so many happy board gamers still enjoying the game with friends, kids and family. Love you all! 🙂

[boreal pasture]

From Essen SPIEL. No playing, just showing factory preview of the next expansions.

[midnight maple]

Can you give other people aquarqs and other held minerals with the exchange action?

[ember ledge]

he has a rulebook under his pillow at night.

[coral turtle]

dont see why not

[midnight maple]

Nice, playing with aquarqs like hot potato is kinda fun

[steel wasp]

Id say probably not as its a 'mineral' and not listed inthe things that are exchangeable but hardly seems game breaking to include as a house rule 🤷‍♂️

[lime jungle]

Sounds like a cool idea. But the rulebook doesn't say anything about exchanging minerals

[midnight maple]

I know it doesn't really work like that in the video game, but it's pretty fun assigning roles for mineral hunters, retrievers and pest controller

[upbeat terrace]

I just play with myself.

BOSCO, you’re the best!

[naive elk]

First game (ever) and my mate who i am playing with gets a Slasher and an Opressor in the face when we are about to clutch up 😭

[royal nacelle]

Remember, leave no Dwarf behind!

[naive elk]

I hope managment doesnt mind dwarf remains on the drop pods

[vale fjord]

ain't no way its cave johnson from portal 2

[naive elk]

Do not use the vents for escapes ahh

If Enemies activate. Do they have 1 turn so they get over to you or attack or 3 turns like the dwarfs

[lime jungle]

Just one move or attack action unless the event card says otherwise

[lime jungle]

What's everyone's favorite cardboard/cave tile?

I like the stalagmites I never use them

[tacit yew]

the web spitter eggs

[scarlet narwhal]

I like the Magic Hole from the Azure Weald

[midnight maple]

The upgrade tokens are neat

[naive elk]

Holy smokes.. i dont know if i did something wrong but i think i managed to get the upgrades to oneshot a opressor with the M1000 Classic

[warm thunder]

I use the stalagmite tokens as markers for when the Menace burrows after being hit. Looks like a diggy hole.

[warm thunder]

+1 blue and x2 will do it.

To increase odds, you can move into position + flare, then focus shot.

[naive elk]

"im sending you back to hell" ahh shot

[ornate dock]

frrrr

[patent surge]

Hi new member here, fan of all things Deeprock, and have just played my first 2
Sessions with the Boardgame!

I’m in the process of painting my miniatures, is this something that I can show you here - or is this for rules discussion?

[royal nacelle]

All things board game, so even work in progress pics is absolutely fine.

[royal nacelle]

You can also post in the fan-art channel if you want a slightly larger audience.

[patent surge]

Must say these are really well sculpted. A joy to paint!

[neat mirage]

beautiful painting

[patent surge]

Thx! I have just learned a bit more precision with the airbrush.. normally not too fond of painting smaller miniatures, but this was really fun to do!

Trying to dry the varnish

[neat mirage]

very nice

[patent surge]

I have just ordered everything, after just playing two missions. For me just the miniatures are “worth it” but the game seems awesome as well. I have played the two first missions - 3 players with the Goo from above mini exp. Loads of fun!

[bright tartan]

Wow these are incredible

[patent surge]

Thank you! I have the Stingtails left to finish from Biome - all other miniatures are varnished and back in the box! Looking forward to take some proper pictures!

I have read a few reviews, have played some "dungeon crawlers" before - but must say the initial impression is that DRG board game is a really great Co-Op. A bit harsh action mechanic, but that keeps it tense and make for some great (miserable) stories! How many games have you guys played? I'm really happy that I discovered this game, cannot believe I missed the kickstarters..

[royal nacelle]

Lost count of how many games I've played, mainly on tabletop sim though. Some physical games but vast majority of time I've spent on designing /painting custom miniatures.

[patent surge]

Any tips for a beginner? (We probably played some rules wrong - like being down and stunned.. was impossible to get up it seemed)

First game we let the bugs move + attack.. got interesting

[royal nacelle]

Knocked over and stunned is one of the roughest situations for a Dwarf to be in, to deal with it I'd stick together so you can help eachother up (hence the Dwarf is only stunned next turn, not also down). Prioritize killing/crowd controlling creatures that stun/knock you over, as well. Damage you can somewhat soak up to begin with, being knocked over or stunned multiple times in a row really eats up your action budget.

Yeah, I've seen a few newbies make the mistake of move + attack, which is basically "Fast Critters" card but each turn. I wouldn't play it that way unless I wanted a real challenge.

I like having 'crowd control' options for primary/secondary weapons, all of Driller's primaries for example, so give him a longer range secondary. Gunner can get something that stuns as secondary, for Scout I like to run Bulldog Revolver so he can freeze stuff (once overclocked).

Figuring out the team's weapon choices can be tricky at first, for myself I try to find a combo that can deal with most things, at least until someone can pop over and help (so stun/freeze/scare)

[patent surge]

We played a 3 dwarf team with Driller, Scout and Engineer. Some weapons seemed very useful (free actions seemed like a nobrainer)

[royal nacelle]

For game tactics, mostly try to stick together so nobody wanders off too far and gets knocked unconscious (ie no health), the swarm threat marker tends to start moving fast when you have to skip someone's turn and move it up. And staying within line of sight and range (of at least some weapon) for reaction shots is something I try to do as well. For a grabber/cave leech etc.

[royal nacelle]

Yeah Subata on Scout is somewhat popular at least, personally I prefer the Bulldog so I can freeze and two-shot big stuff xD

[patent surge]

Cool, yeah, I had a perfectly timed grabber (swear it was a mactera attack) transport me back to my buddies from the far end of the cave system.. was hillarious - I would hate to be removed from the team in that way 😛

Also, all 3 of us rolled ! on the earthquake card

then triggered the swarm I think

[royal nacelle]

I've been sent to the other side of the cave before, think my record is 10 or 11 tiles.

[patent surge]

Straight line is like LOS isnt it? We wondered a little about that when we tried to resolve that card

[royal nacelle]

One of my funny moments was Driller going on a "side quest" to quickly get a drone (Mission 4), but Stingtail spawned, yoinked him 5 tiles to the tunnel exit, while the other Dwarves were still making their way. Then they got clogged down on the way and Driller went down, and game went south when I went into the side cave to get a breather, but Korlok Weed was in there.

[royal nacelle]

You can play it either way, if you want a bit easier just go straight 6 directions on the hexes, personally I prefer "draw a line like LoS". Does make it more dangerous.

[patent surge]

Yeah, that is the beauty of this game - no need to spend all evening arguing - "we just play like this tonight"

Is the Korlok Weed a fun addition? I haven't been able to get it yet, but have a preorder in with a game store..

[royal nacelle]

I like it, some have too many bad memories from the video game to enjoy it.. but the encounter is at least a bit different. I'd be hard pressed to decide between it and the Bulk Detonator, for example.

[patent surge]

I looked at those sets and just figured "more is more" - good thing for this kind of game.

And stunning minis.

So far I have DRG base set (deluxe 1.ed), Biome and Space Rig. Preorder for Horrors and Rival Incursion plus Bulk Detonator, Korlok weed and the electro thing.

[royal nacelle]

I suppose the last way I described the Korlok was that it's different in that it's a big "uh oh" moment, compared to Goo from Above being a more 'constant'. You're not as likely to run into the Korlok while GfA is frequent encounter. I like the Korlok because it's a bigger engagement, while GfA is more an 'annoyance' (but mostly in a good way).

[patent surge]

base set included Goo from above

[warm thunder]

I am a bit newish to mini painting, your skills are wild @patent surge. Rock and stone!

[patent surge]

I have not been able to paint like this until a few months ago. Still a beginner regarding lighting and my highlights are kind of rough. But I have improved very much in a short time - mainly learning the principles of OSL (object source lighting). The only stuff I have been showing people earlier is bigger terrain pieces (for Necromunda). Very happy that you like the minis!

Oh, and some of this is just airbrush "cheating"

[patent surge]

Also, I have been painting for some years - happy to help if I can!

[ebon flicker]

stunning!

[patent surge]

Thx! Working on the Stingtails now

Trying to make it more bluish than black on the carapace

[thorny bluff]

Painted the most important deep rock galactic miniature first guys!

Before:

After

[warm thunder]

That base tho

[thorny bluff]

Karl only deserves the finest of marble bases

[tacit yew]

beautiful

[kindred gale]

How one even achieve such a magnificent base

[patent surge]

Base looks like sponge + freehand + brown wash and edge highlight ! Epic stuff!

[lavish salmon]

finally got my hands on it! any tips on what to use on figures? will be my first time painting em

[royal nacelle]

I'd recommend acrylic paints, and I always recommend new painters practice a bit on some cheapo toy figures (like green army men or something). Depending on what look you're after you could have a peek at speed/contrast paints as well (google/youtube is your friend in that case).

[lavish salmon]

yeah im gonna practice, don't wanna mess up on any of em, they look amazing

and i will look at it, thanks!

[patent surge]

A kind of easy way out is to prime them white and use Citadel contrast paints or army painter speedpaints, Vallejo Express or something similar.

[royal nacelle]

That said, you can strip down acrylic paint using alcohol (and some other cleaning methods), so it's not the end of the world, but I figure green army men are cheap enough to get a bucket for next to nothing from a dollar store or something.

[patent surge]

I have only six more minis to paint now

Drilldozer and Beam pylons. Plus the liquid morkite pumps.

(also considering stripping and start over with the exploding plants)

[warm thunder]

I am thinking I'll do the drilldozer this week. It has been hard to find the time to paint as of late.

[midnight maple]

How good is the assignment system of the space rig expansion?

Asking as someone who primarily runs deep dives

[lime jungle]

It's fun. Gives your game a little extra to work for. You just need to remember about your secondary objectives

I tend to forget about them until near the end

[dire raptor]

Though that remove every mineral in every mission achievement is comically difficult at times

[kindred gale]

Also remember that they tend to last at least 5-7 hours

[midnight maple]

Yeah, I've heard that they can take multiple sessions

[proven saffron]

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[kindred gale]

How big are the art prints?

[steel wasp]

About A4 size I think so 210mm x 297mm...thats going off memory thoh

[safe smelt]

I have a question,where can I buy the biome Expansion for the board Game ?

[ember ledge]

https://moodpublishing.com/collections/deep-rock-galactic

is their official webstore

[safe smelt]

Thank you

[patent surge]

Do you know anything about the mixed missions book? (Space Rig and Biome missions) They are listed as sold out at moodpublishing..

[ancient prawn]

looks over at his copy

what do you want to know?

[royal nacelle]

Basically 4 Escort missions and 4 on-site refining missions, one for each biome/mission combo. Easy enough to make yourself; use the escort/OSR missions from spacerig rules as guides, plop down biome tiles and hazards, and hidden caves. Pick a mission specific event from any other mission really.

[naive elk]

If the Engineers sentry gun is surrounded by like... grunts and lets say they wont attack it will it shoot all the grunts?

[royal nacelle]

No. It only shoots during activation.

[autumn warren]

heya, does anyone here have a ready made youtube playlist of only the swarm ost from drg? (no extraction ost) I wanna use it for swarm blocks

[proven saffron]

I use this for my games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFboCWYEVY&list=PLKuhlc4AVptVYbcy7-6lLJu3UmTHI1-Gm&index=1

Hope this is what you are looking for

Wait mb I think this has extraction ost

[autumn warren]

yea i think i found that earlier, oh well

i have another question actually: can bosco reveal flare symbols when next to them?

i'm gonna guess "no"

[lime jungle]

screenshot from the rulebook

[autumn warren]

does the turret fire at anything upon being placed or does it only fire on enemies when they're active?

like if you place a sentry within range of a grunt, will it immediately open fire or wait for an activation?

also do explosives blow up walls?

[midnight maple]

Turrets attack once per activation per creature within range/entering its range

Pretty sure that if a creature spawns withing its range it also counts

[midnight maple]

Only when they say so

Like the satchel charge and tunnel carver

[autumn warren]

can a dwarf stand on top of a loot bug token?

or an enemy for that matter?

also do exploders die upon attacking?

[outer totem]

Broskis i might be cooked. I forgot to finish filling out the survey with my address

I hope support can help me

[outer totem]

If I remember correctly loot bugs you can but creatures im pretty sure you can't

[autumn warren]

how do these upgrades interact with the HE attack on this weap?

[outer totem]

Dude. I'm not trying to be mean but think about it. I'm pretty sure first one is one extra bullet die you roll when you fire it and a stun effect as well to all creatures hit and the second one is the same thing

[autumn warren]

yea but i'm guessing the bullet die just means it's a single target

[outer totem]

Also its not a competitive game its fine if you mess up the rules abit i forgot a lot of thing the first time I played

[autumn warren]

and so is the flame die?

just wanna make it fair

i'm currently in the process of learning it so i can introduce some friends to it

[outer totem]

Does the HE do the same damage to all creatures or do you assign the die? I'm at work so I cant pull out my game

[autumn warren]

same damage

you roll an explosive die and apply that to all creatures in the radius

[outer totem]

Yeah then it should be the same thing

[autumn warren]

so the flame die would be aoe too?

and the bullet die?

i know for a fact ppl are gonna ask about that

[outer totem]

Yep

Weapon upgrades are pretty crazy

There might be a another page that explains it better somewhere else

[royal nacelle]

There is an FAQ on MOOD's website, on BoardGameGeek, and some of it is also listed at the end of the 2nd ed rulebook as 'easily forgotten rules'.

You have however asked a heap of questions that're listed clearly in the rulebook, so please read the rules fully.

Upgrades apply to all tiles of an AoE weapon.

[outer totem]

Also does anyone know if I might still get my stuff considering I had my card info but not my address and now I might not receive the new expansion? I'm going to contact support if I don't get charged when the emails come in the nex lt little bit hopefully

[royal nacelle]

Contact support, I'm sure they'll be able to help. I've seen several who've moved and changed their addresses after the initial pledge manager, as long as you email them prior to everything being shipped it'll be fine.

[outer totem]

Thanks

[autumn warren]

yea sry, i read it, but it's hard to keep all the info down after one read lol, i'll re-read it later

[lime jungle]

The rules are a little overwhelming in the beginning but after a few games and read-throughs of the rules you'll get the hang of it

[tacit yew]

when are we supposed to be charged?

[ember ledge]

Next week, we will begin charging cards.

This means that if you have filled out your survey and confirmed your payment information, everything is set. BackerKit will handle the charges automatically, and you will receive a confirmation email once your payment has gone through.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4535094

is all info i'm aware of

[mystic compass]

Couldn't find anything in the rules, but can satchel charges remove the corestone spikes? We played it as if they could, due to the satchels being able to destroy stalagmites (and it was by far the prefered outcome)

[royal nacelle]

Corestone? You mean Ommoran Beamers?

[mystic compass]

Yeah, those things

[royal nacelle]

The intent of the rules as the card says is that you have to pickaxe them.

"able to destroy stalagmites" isn't the same thing, as they're not stalagmites. Else there'd be a list of things that can destroy them.

[mystic compass]

Considering video game mechanics and the existance of the achievement for the dozer to take no damage on a mission we're probably gonna keep homeruling it that way, but thank you for clarification

[muted terrace]

if i had to guess you probably have to pickaxe the beamers, but yeah you can still homerule it if that's more fun for you.

[tacit yew]

its a very niche scenario

having a satchel charge during the fight

[muted terrace]

btw does anyone know if scout can grappling hook over dangers in the biome expansion without consequences (e.g. lava pools, deep snow)? my group has been conflicted on whether or not he can, since as far as we could tell, the manuals neither confirm nor deny if he can.

[tacit yew]

the manuals say he can

if you read the descriptions of the hazards

at least thats what i remember and thats how i play

yep he can

"only the scout and flying creatures can move over the elements without triggering their effects"

[muted terrace]

oh my gosh it was in the intro

i think that's the one section we forgot to check when looking for this

[warm thunder]

Season 6 DRG fossils look suspiciously similar to MOOD Publishing's Shock Wyrm.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[ebon flicker]

Purely coincidental. Meet me in the airlock in 5.

[warm thunder]

Giraffasaur was not the imposter

[warm thunder]

Escort Duty anyone?

[rigid birch]

The forbidden meatball

[valid horizon]

it looks so good tho 😭

[lavish salmon]

finally had my first games with some friends and got a praetorian and me having a lil staring contest

[dull dew]

<@&296918282403840000>

[worn lava]

for the latest campaign has anyone gotten charged for shipping yet? Wondering if I did something wrong on the survey since they said it would be taken out this week in the latest update

[vale spindle]

No I don't believe anyone has been charged for it yet - I haven't either yet. MOOD have put a comment out on their latest Kickstarter update with the following (below). so I'd assume they're ironing out some bits before they can start charging orders for the shipping and would expect another update shortly.

[worn lava]

appreciate the info!

[muted wadi]

Thanks for the info

[vestal orbit]

I am not sure if i saw aything related to that but. Will they eventually release a Big Box Storage solutions for all of it ? Or since the minis are so "space consuming" they won't even bother ?

Cause i own the deluxe game with just the Goo expansion, i would love to get my hand on other content.

[ancient prawn]

at this point, any "big box" storage solution for the deluxe versions would need to be an old school travel trunk... it's gotten to the point where with the recent expansions in the most recent KS campaign, we're getting into "Hockey Bag" territory for portability.

I mean one of these

[worn lava]

I would buy it if it said deep rock galactic on it

lmao

[plush surge]

The ultimate power move from mood would be making a 1:1 replica of Molly to store all the precious minerals board game boxes in

[worn lava]

the final move to throw me into financial ruin

[ember ledge]

i think the only practical solution is a bag from harry potter with an extension charm on it

but the technology isn't there yet (TM)

[lime jungle]

Just empty the contents in a duffle bag. If you shake it up a bit you might squeeze in a bit more.

[ancient prawn]

how do i delete someone else's comment? /j

[patent surge]

Regarding boxes - why Are the inlays with form-fit design so tight that painted minis will get wrecked? Seems cool on pictures, not cool to varnish a mini with 6 layers…

[royal nacelle]

Because whoever did the inlays likely didn't think/know about painting. Same way they didn't think about how card sleeves would make the inlay for first edition not be able to fit all the cards.

[patent surge]

Probably it, it is the first ed. I got. Will have to look at a good custom solution, or be prepared to touch up every 4 sessions 😆

[royal nacelle]

Soft pluck foam pads don't cost that much.

[patent surge]

Thanks for the tip, just curious about the layers in the box etc. It is definitely something I can figure out. I was also considering expanding the sockets with some hot air or something like that.. make more space for each mini.

[royal nacelle]

You can get different thickness pluck foam, some of them come with a bottom pad already else you can glue on separator pads.

[wooden widget]

Finished for now. Wanted to play with yellow armor.
Don't have the patience to refine it further, but I've enjoyed this little guy.

Just love the fundamental shapes design of them 😄 kudos to designers

[muted terrace]

hot damn i almost thought that was a drawing

[upbeat oasis]

Is there a deep rock galactic stand at pax unplugged

[royal nacelle]

Don't think I've ever seen MOOD mention PAX, you could check their Facebook and Instagram. Only ever seen them talk about SPIEL in Essen.

[upbeat oasis]

I found the stand! Thank you for the help

[royal nacelle]

I wasn't much help, glad you found it and that they're there! sweet

[warm thunder]

Doretta!

[royal nacelle]

Looking good! you're inspiring me. I still haven't painted my own, I'm using my old version....

reminds me of the pre-expansions chats about how many tiles Doretta would take up...

[coral turtle]

wow wow super shmexy stuff right there. amazing color

[midnight maple]

my friends made a home rule to spice up egg missions
instead of rolling two creature dice to spawn grunts, you roll one and on ! you draw a swarm card

[warm thunder]

When I first started playing, I somehow thought to draw a swarm immediately after collecting an egg. After I found out about the dice roll mechanic, it was decided we would play with our accidental rule instead

I do like your homerule. Acts similar to swarm triggering in the video game. Not that they should be the same since the games play differently, but I digress. It's cool.

[midnight maple]

we actually did that to make it feel more like the video game. it ended up feeling a lot different from the video game though, but in a good way.
now taking eggs is more of a gable since rolling a bad result would spawn a lot more enemies and trigger already existing ones rather than max 2 grunts that you can just kill as soon as they show up.

it adds an element of doing strategic calls on whether it's good to take the egg now and risk a swarm to get things done quicker or try to clear out the already existing enemies beforehand

[wooden widget]

Another dwarf down, 2 to go

[ember ledge]

Pick him back up. It is gonna ruin your whole run if you let him stay down 😁

[river galleon]

Omg thats beautiful i love that

[muted terrace]

can you use prox mine on spitballer? one friend says no and one says yes.

[warm thunder]

"Ground creature" seems specific to identify a creature that moves across the ground, further supported by the text "that enters." It seems the rules-as-written doesn't allow it.

HOWEVER, throwables are very situational and can be harder to use at times. Granting more flexibility on their usage makes it feel good to play the game instead of feel the game playing you. Rapid spitballer growth has to grow from the ground, and it has to "enter" the tile after all!

I'd personally allow it.

[steel wasp]

Id say no.

1. The spitballer is placed as soon as the tile is revealed (so dosnt move into the space).

They could in theory place the grenade there but it wouldnt detonate until a)the spitballer is dead & b) another ground enemy moves into the now vacant space.

But as said above house ruling for fun (within reason) and granting some flexability on gear is up to you.

[royal nacelle]

As I recall the FAQ says you can't throw the proximity grenade at an occupied space.

[warm thunder]

Yes! That said, the way I interpreted the situation was a rapid spitballer growth card (the proximity to the drop pod has me think this), so the proxy grenade was there first.

[pastel sphinx]

Hello! Fellow gray beards, me and some friends started trying out the drg board game and wanted to ask something, can you use 2 or 3 actions as movement?

[royal nacelle]

You can use any action multiple times (up to your total number of allowed actions), but you can't string them together so that you say you're moving 6 spaces with scout for example across heaps of pits. Each separate movement action has to be legal, and finish prior to starting the next.

[naive elk]

Ok gang i might have found THE place to play this game

[pastel sphinx]

anyone would like to play a bit on TTS?

[naive elk]

Cinema 🙏

[heady sinew]

You!

[supple mango]

I paid for shipping, got the confirmation email for it. But I still got an email after to update my payment information?

[cold ivy]

so if prate butts are 1x weakpoints, can you just shoot their mouths with 0 penalty as long as your weapon doesn't have a weakpoint bonus?

thinking about typical M1k build which usually takes blowthrough over weakpoint bonus in tier 4

[supple mango]

yes, if it's not resistant to the type you're shooting with you can just shoot it in the front

[cold ivy]

what if it is?

do weakpoints ignore damage resist or something?

[supple mango]

yes, praetorians resistance only apply from the front. If you shoot it in the butt/Weakpoint, its resistances don't apply & you get full dmg

same with oppressor

[cold ivy]

oh wait this is the wrong chat lmao

sorry about that

although while I'm at it, can't you only damage opressors through their weakpoint

(aside from area damage I guess which has a type too)

[supple mango]

In the video game, pretty much; it's front armour is impenetrable to all projectiles. but elemental weapons like the flamethrower or sludge pump can still dmg it from the front.
In the boardgame you can get overcome the resistance with enough damage

& aoe doesn't do multiple instances of damage even if you hit multiple hexes of the oppressor

[pastel sphinx]

"Managment pick me up i am scared" 💀

[scarlet narwhal]

Five. Hundred. Grunts.

[pastel sphinx]

even more appeared bruh

[scarlet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/bendy-and-the-ink-machine-bendy-2017-prototype-out-of-the-ink-machine-ollie-bendy-gif-17763589306956153170

embed fail nooo

[pastel sphinx]

we got out alive

doing deep dive lol

[simple hatch]

Dumb question that’s probably already been answered but is there any way to get the STL files for the minis of each expansion or where the limited to each one’s respective kickstarter campaign?

[tidal matrix]

you guys think they will do a late pledge on kickstarter for rival expansion and horrors of hoxxes? Since i missed the campaign

[ember ledge]

no, but you can already preorder the expansions in their webshop

https://moodpublishing.com/collections/deep-rock-galactic

[ancient prawn]

You can buy the STLs from Mood Publishing directly at the link above this message

[tidal matrix]

ty

[simple hatch]

I’ve checked the page and can’t find exactly where they are selling it

[ember ledge]

yeah, i think that is incorrect. the stl files are not for sale. i only ever saw them sold during kickstarter campaigns, not in the shop

i don't know where but i seem to remember a comment under one of the updates or in the comment section stating that ~~mood does not intend to sell them on their website. ~~(maybe due to licensing resons or similar)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes/posts/4457746 (down in the comments, an answer on a question by a user named RJ)

i misremembered. They intend to maybe offer them in the store at some point

At the moment, i don't see them on their website.

[wooden widget]

Last one. Next time will make a more distinct metal color to break up such pieces, but happy enough to call it done

[ancient prawn]

ah, i misremembered as well

[naive elk]

Any tips for painting my dwarfs? (first timer)

[wooden widget]

for quick and tabletop ready results i highly recommend contrast paints and the slapchop technique

[naive elk]

Karl would be proud

[patent surge]

It is also possible to add manual highligts to enhance this effect, or use slapchop first and clean up with regular layering after (on some areas). If you have an airbrush zenithal priming can be something to look into - or just drybrush the same light. Black primer, grey mid tones, white edge as the foundation for slapchop.

[patent surge]

I hope everyone realize how peak this work is. I mean, I'm really happy with my own minis - but this is just hands down fantastic work. That Pickaxe! ❤️

[pastel sphinx]

quick question, why does this gun says "same target"? i thought you coudln't spread dice damage beteween targets

[warm thunder]

Is it possible to get a shot with all four of your dwarves next to each other?

[empty karma]

hey guys i was wondering what paint set would be best to buy for the board game and what brush set, my budget is around 50 bucks

[viscid field]

You can spread dices over hexes. You need to start with a hit and have line of sight.

[pastel sphinx]

i thought you could only spread damage with pickaxe dice

[warm thunder]

The dice can be assigned to adjacent hexes in line-of-sight and range. DICE. Not damage. If you rolled a double, a blank and a hit, you could assign the double to the first target, a blank to an adjacent to the first target, and the single to an adjacent to the second target.

You could NOT take the three total damage and give three targets one damage each.

It is in the rulebook...unsure which page though.

And obviously, there are exceptions, like the crossbow and the brt7 that must be to a single target.

[pastel sphinx]

ah i see, uh, luckly we got a bit messed cuz of that but at least we were able to continue the dive anyways lol

[pastel sphinx]

you can see how not being able to spread attacks did to us lol

if a weapon has freeze, and you get an upgrade extra damage, can any damage of the weapon give freeze? or has to be the weapon default damage type?

[topaz urchin]

Does anyone have a picture of all the weapon cards? Or at least a link to a preview

[wooden widget]

will look into it, but my setup is calibrated for one on one pics 😄

[scarlet narwhal]

i'd have to double check but i think it inherits the weapon properties?

[pastel sphinx]

thanks yhe

[pastel sphinx]

how about given propetys tho? like the bullet damage + stun weapon upgrade?

[wooden widget]

Forgot about the little fella. Quick one as I move to test something else

[royal nacelle]

Only that die will stun, if it hits.

[pastel sphinx]

and if i put it in a weapon that does area damage? does it stun everything i hit with it?

[royal nacelle]

As long as the die rolls a hit, yes.

[marsh bronze]

How is the board game? Hard to learn?

[ancient prawn]

Not too bad... that's a very subjective thing though

it's not like, the hardest game to learn, that title belongs to Anachrony in my mind

It's a cooperative, mission based exploration/combat game

[wooden widget]

Just like in the video game, I feel there's a moment of calmness and then overwhelm - if you manage the overwhelm you win. Either I'm playing wrong or that's the flow I've experienced 😄

[midnight maple]

Not really. Just takes a bit of time to explain

[delicate seal]

Hi all, shamefully had a payment bounce for the recent collection mood pushed, could someone sling me the customer service email?

[royal nacelle]

[e-mail]

[delicate seal]

Thanks

[cloud aurora]

Have in mind that I had a similar issue and I got an automated email that said that due to a high influx of emails the response time can be like 5-7 days

[oak crag]

Yo is this decent enough

Difficult to resemble the original

[warm thunder]

Major props for putting the camo lines on it too. I was not as brave lol

[oak crag]

Thx! I just sort of went for it lol

[royal nacelle]

Quite decent, and as you already yourself noticed the originals are somewhat 'monotone'. Could perhaps take it a tiny bit further with more variety like black gloves, pick out his shirt between the shoulderpads and gauntlets. Else you've already added a splash of colour with the bronze/brass. Certainly decent tabletop quality.

For the brass you could also add a bit of oxidization. Here's a pic of mine. It's still fairly monotone, but I've changed the glove colours, shirt/trousers, and blue on the brass.

[worn lava]

I am so excited to finally grab the game

especially seeing all these mini posts

[pastel sphinx]

when you mine a stalgmite you roll the mineral dice?

does it say it somewhere in the manual?

[outer olive]

do we do lfgs here?

[midnight maple]

The last sentence

Also important to note that destroying them with driller's drill-move action doesn't give you the mineral die

[pastel sphinx]

Thanks, we werent able to find it for some reason lol
Our problem was we found the driller part so we assumed we did indeed rolled the mineral dice

[midnight maple]

Yeah, I often missed rules as well
We have a running joke at my friends group whenever we sit down to play where we start by saying "what rule did we miss this time?"

[wooden widget]

Cute model.

[oak crag]

Must say I was sceptical at first to buy a board game based on a video game but damn it’s pretty good

It’s a good mix of a war game and board game

[gleaming dune]

Welp. Tried painting some models and it went very poorly. The tight fit ruined the paint job, so I tried stripping it so that the two I tried painting would match the rest and it didn't go too hot

Drop pod is looking more or less back to its original self, but Bosco is a bit... Shaded.

I think the rubbing alcohol might have really softened some details as well 😭

[lime jungle]

The DRG minis are made of PVC; it's different to most wargames plastic miniatures (polystyrene)

Sorry to hear that's rough

You might be able to just re-spray the model with primer over the residue

if it's not much left

[gleaming dune]

Yeah. I really wish I'd never bothered.

I'm not planning to try repainting. Just gonna leave bad enough alone.

Unfortunately I'm the type of person who's going to be irritated by the slight visual traces of Leadbelcher until the end of time, but oh well... Live and learn.

[lime jungle]

I see a few threads saying Simple Green All Purpose can work like IA

It shouldn't damage the mini like IA

I'm not sure if I can post links here, but I found a reddit post testing 3 different formulas including the two. Maybe you'll find something there

[gleaming dune]

Gotcha. Might look into that.

[royal nacelle]

I'd still recommend repainting, and using the soft edges to work for you by adding some chipped paint to make him look damaged. I have a poorly 3d printed BOSCO myself and at arms length on the table it doesn't really matter.

Another alternative of course is having a new one printed. Or you could use some liquid green stuff to build up the edges and sand them crisp again.

[ornate dock]

Holy shit you keep cooking

May you show us the back ?

[ornate dock]

Insane

[wooden widget]

Thanks for the kind words ❤️ Sure, but there isn't anything interesting - I just airbrushed his firebug ass and left as is :p

Cleaner shot

[wooden widget]

Last one. Moving to paint something different than bugs for a while. Thanks for all the kind words. Rock and stone friends ❤️

[oak crag]

youre not the only one, however id reccomend for you to try repainting, the differences will be a lot less visible and eventually you will forget about it

I bought a 30 dollar figurine and cut his small fingers off, impossible to reglue, but I painted some stuf over it, reshaded it and somehow it got salvaged, you really have to not worry and just keep going with what youve got 😄

you can hmu about painting if you have any scepticism about what you will do with the paint it is tricky

but peopl are happy to help

and as someone else said when you are playing the small stuff is really hard to notice from afar

you only notice them because you know something was supposed to be there and on top of that you are looking at it from very close distance

put it on the board in the middle of everything and its gonna be 👌

[steel wasp]

When is latest KS due to start shipping again?

[royal nacelle]

Q1, I would personally expect February

[steel wasp]

Did think it was earlyish next year thanks 👍

[warm thunder]

I am personally expecting March. Better odds at being pleasantly surprised.

[ancient prawn]

I expect June. Better shot at being "whelmed"

[warm thunder]

One of three pumpjacks done...these guys are more detailed than I anticipated. WHEW. I have a feeling my next two will improve.

[oak crag]

Do alien eggs block los and can you move on them?

[royal nacelle]

"pickup tokens do not block movement", and regarding LoS "if this line crosses or touches a hexagon containing a creature, a standing dwarf, a cave wall, flames, or a stalagmite, that's where your line of sight ends".

Pages 9 and 12 in the 2nd ed rulebook

[oak crag]

Does the marked ranged enemy has los in situation 1 and 2

[royal nacelle]

1 no, 2 yes.

[oak crag]

1 because of slasher?

If no slasher would that be in los

[royal nacelle]

yes

[oak crag]

Can grunts move under mactera?

[royal nacelle]

All creatures can move through eachother, except Oppressors will crush grunts. They just can't end their move on the same tile.

[oak crag]

Oh damn

[midnight maple]

I went through the kickstarter R&S cards and WOW they're stronger than I remembered (except for the one that blows up a grunt)

[oak crag]

This is how it be sometimes

[ancient prawn]

That it do. They don't believe it be like that but it do.

[muted terrace]

first swarm turn 2 bulk detonator
(haz 4, got increase swarm cards twice in row)

[warm thunder]

Explosive start, surely that means it'll get easier...right?

Korlok flip would be hilarious

[frank tinsel]

2 bulk detonators... I guess you could say it's really "bang for your buck!"

I'm so sorry

[muted terrace]

[muted terrace]

thankfully the firewall bought us a ton of time

[proven slate]

One of my praetorians fell off my desk while painting and their arm broke quite cleanly off. I’ve tried GW superglue and that doesn’t seem to do much, does anyone have any ideas how I could go about fixing this?

[bright tartan]

Hotglue could be an option

Or you make it seem intentional, like if its arm got blasted off, adding blood and all

[proven slate]

That’s actually not a bad idea.

I’ve found one other adhesive I’m trying but if that doesn’t work then I’ll work with it.

[copper sorrel]

Use CA glue (superglue), if you want to make it stronger, you can drill both side and add a piece of a paperclip to act as a bone.
Otherwise, strongest glue you can easily get your hands on would be 2-parts epoxy glue, but it's thicker than superglue.

Please don't use hotglue, the heat will release bad chemicals from the abs plastic and it's the worst glue, just after your regular paper glue, you could use in this case.

[bright tartan]

Ohh didn't know the effect of the heat on this type of plastic! Good to know

[copper sorrel]

Hot glue is very weak as a glue anyway, so the parts were going to slide from it easily. Good thing is, your hairdryer or iso alcohol is enough to remove it completely

[uncut basalt]

I've fixed very fragile parts (swords, etc.) on resin 3D prints by drilling a small hole with a hand twist drill (not a powered drill) and inserting something like a paper clip. The metal shaft of the paper clip adds a lot of strength to the joint if you embed it half in one piece and half in the other.

[worn lava]

I've had good luck bonding resin with Loctite superglue

[muted terrace]

i think it might be joever

[raven fern]

Hey guys, can I have some feedback?
I'm embarrassed to admit, but I still don't know by heart what blocks what, so I went through the two rulebooks I currently own and visualized it in this table, which I should now be able to use as a cheat-sheet.
Please tell me:

• Is there something I am missing? What is it?
• Are the rules written here correct?
• Do you have any suggestions on how to improve this cheat-sheet?
  Thanks in advance!

Oh, I just noticed the 6 right columns' heads are not easily readable. First thing to improve, I guess.
For now, imagine they represent whether line of sight, throwability, and movements of dwarves and creatures, through and onto, are evaluated for whether the position is blocked or not.

[raven fern]

Reworked.

[raven fern]

Numbering on the left is corrected.

[muted terrace]

i thought all bugs could go across/end their turns in pits as if they're normal ground tiles

[lime jungle]

yall can breathe now

"This Hidden Cave Tile addon will be added to all pledges containing any expansion in this campaign - free of charge."

[neat mirage]

neat

[ancient prawn]

I'm really glad for this, both because people were upset, but this paves the way for more hidden tiles in the future

It "sucks" to have to draw a tile at random halfway through a game in a way, but this is really the better solution

[ancient prawn]

Yes, this is true.

[raven fern]

Actually, I find this solution very elegant. The stalsgmites, crestures, and tokens have to be set up upon exploration anyway. The only thing this removes it having to turn the hidden cave segment around which is kind of annoying anyway. I approve (and will remember this template of a solution). 👍

[tacit yew]

YES

i love this

[royal nacelle]

I'm having trouble reading the chart, or it's not correct in places. Like space - Stalagmite. "move through" on the left side points to acting creature. And move to points to scout can move to the stalagmite? Which isn't correct. So move to is 6, and through is .. 1.

[midnight maple]

I didn't really understand what they're supposed to be used for but they look cool

[royal nacelle]

To be placed instead of hidden cave tiles. Or like I'll likely use them at a push, to be placed on top of hidden cave tiles.

@raven fern Space - Dwarf - left side "LoS" is 6, which isn't correct. Should be 7

Not seeing pumpjack

Either way, my feedback would probably be to write down the rules, rather than a chart. Most of the "to" fields can be eliminated simply by the rule "two miniatures can't be on the same space at end of movement". And a blurb about flying takes care of most "through" fields. Creatures can move through creatures, Dwarves can move through Dwarves.

What generally blocks movement is the same for creatures and Dwarves, with the exception of flying.

Or I'd separate it into two separate charts, it's bit much to look at.

[ancient prawn]

When you're setting up the mission, you have to randomly select which hidden cave tile you place in the spot for it, face down. The issue was that some of the backs of the tiles were different colors based on some of the expansions... like the korlok tyrant tile has a bit of a greenish hue for me, for example. So if you knew what color, scratch, or pattern on the back of it was, you were able to prepare with the knowledge that it was a certain enemy in that hidden cave segment... with these tiles all being the same back, they are placeholders for the real tiles, but you don't know ahead of getting in there (on reveal) what's in/on the secret tile.

So now, you'll use those when setting up, and when you reveal, pull a random one from the box (or a bag) and set that one up in it's place.

[kindred gale]

I have an issue when painting edge highlights where paint blends and even after multiple layers it still isnt looking as it should

Any tips how can I make it not blend

-# pls

[royal nacelle]

Blends how? Is it reactivating the paint under it or something? Or just that it's too runny and goes everywhere? If the latter, use thicker paint. If it's reactivating paint you could use a varnish prior to the edge highlights.

I normally edge highlight gently, not with the tip of the brush but with the body, with the brush at an angle to the edge.

like so

I also do quite subtle highlights, if you want them to be distinct you'll have to use a brighter colour than you'd expect.

[kindred gale]

Both, its hard to ballance how much paint I should get on the brush, but thats just mine to figure out and I think I might have make them not as bright, I make the colour I want and I make it very very bright. I just have that dillema that if I do white I wouldnt get the light-color effect

[wooden widget]

the paint can't be overly diluted or runny. You're doing something similar to a drybrush, but a very precise one with the edge of a normal brush - if there's too much moisture in the paint it's gonna be too transparent or it'll flow down instead of sticking to the edge.

Takes practice to get right tho'

[copper sorrel]

Can also be the paints you use that have shitty coverage. Especially true with certain colors being notably awful to work with: orange, yellow, green are often too transparent.

For reactivation issue, did you use something akin to armypainter speed paints?

[tacit yew]

does anybody have any clue on how the barrel kicking minigame is going to work?

[copper sorrel]

I'm guessing it acts as some small kind of catapult.

[steel wasp]

Im assuming place barrel on different difficulty levels (Yellow X easy, Orange medium, Red hard) flick the barrel which will then use the push button flap as a sortve ramp...and hopefully fly into the hole...🤷‍♂️

[idle finch]

Kick it

[kindred gale]

[tacit yew]

is the barrel going to be wood in the actual game?

i think this is the first wood item we have got for the board game

[neat mirage]

doesn't look like it would be wood

[steel wasp]

But if it is wood...how much wood would a wood barrel flick if a wood barrel could flick wood?

[tired kestrel]

Swarm Approaching Miners !!!

[kindred gale]

man I wish I could get morkite from stalagmites

the life would be so much easier