drg-board-game

[royal nacelle]

Says it's a swarm tracker... can only assume it tracks swarms.

[upbeat oasis]

Makes sense
Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything

I wonder if there'll be a neat little place to put the steeve statue like there was for the dwarf in the space rig and biome expansions
Maybe it's an alternative to it

[royal nacelle]

They're supposedly the same size, so you can pick which one to use.

[lyric sapphire]

I personally don't mind. I'm just glad that they didn't pull a Helldivers board game situation on us and lock major content behind the Kickstarter

[royal nacelle]

I'm more frustrated at the fact that people now are asking for the large creature sheet to return, because they no longer like the individual cards. I preferred the sheet and would've wanted to go that route for the previous expansion too, but no people had to demand individual cards.

I've seen exclusives come and go in various forms for various businesses/industries, doesn't really bother me as I assume I've missed a bunch if I get interested into something 'late'.

Was brought up with the "be happy with what you have" mindset. Doesn't matter if someone else has something I can no longer get.

[lyric sapphire]

The main issue with the Helldivers board game is that the game launched with 7 expansions (already kind of weird) but then they made 5/7 of those expansions Kickstarter exclusive, including many iconic creatures from the game, and Biomes, which is kind of ridiculous

I'm just glad MOOD isn't going to lock away major content for the game behind their Kickstarter's

Because the stuff that they're making Kickstarter exclusive isn't really anything that is completely game changing (Ex: Biomes)

[royal nacelle]

Yeah stretch goals are a bit weird anyway, either people feel it's something that was supposed to be in the game anyway, and get upset if the company sets the goals too high so we can't get the stuff.. or its extras that really can't matter, else people would feel that they're missing out on actual content. And then at the same time many are looking to get the cheapest version possible, without extras, that's something they have to navigate as well.

[upbeat terrace]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of Deep Rock as a game to have timed exclusives. I’m specifically thinking of the seasons and how all exclusive season cosmetics were added to the regular loot pool after a season ended and now we can just play through all five seasons again whenever.

[wise flint]

Yeah, are they optional addons that aren’t important for the core experience and won’t be considered as such in the future, or will others be missing a critical part of the game going forward… or both

the glittering cave tiles in particular I’m interested in how they affect things

betsy’s more of a korlok style expansion, but changes to the core mechanic of “digging holes” is pretty notable

[pastel gyro]

I also like the big sheet. Don't have to go through each creature like a deck. Also don't like them being out of order when I take them out. But the individual cards is still cool and nice art on the back

[spiral belfry]

I like the cards because I rarely had space for the giant board. My only criticism is the lack of information on the cards, otherwise I love them

[royal nacelle]

I use a miniature easel for my creature sheet xD

[upbeat oasis]

I'm assuming herbivoe is a typo

[neat mirage]

most likely

[royal nacelle]

You can assume there'll be typoes across the board and that anything shown is still work in progress.

[tacit yew]

do you think gameplay will be hindered in any way due to the fact that the new enemies will always activate after the old ones?

[royal nacelle]

How would it be hindered when that's quite literally a gameplay mechanic working as intended? There's rarely enough enemies on the board that they block eachother, and where there are you're in enough trouble without the toughest enemies necessarily acting first or getting ahead of the line.

Feel free to remove all the base game enemies if it's a concern though.

[spiral belfry]

They also could always add something like 6b and have the new creatures happen after older ones. (Like goo bombers getting 0)

[royal nacelle]

Can also just shuffle the deck and have a random order every game.

[upbeat oasis]

Yeah I don't think it would be hindered because everything still gets to move regardless of the order and also like gunner main said the designers could find any number of ways to have it ordered as they feel is balanced

[midnight maple]

I think I'll add a homebrew rule of an "enemy pool" like in the video game where we remove some cards from the swarm deck at the start of each round to make it less bloated and give specific creatures a chance to shine more

[ancient prawn]

Quick Quesiton for people who've run the TTS version before

does it accurately relay all the pieces of information that you need for learning the game/how to set it up

is there anything i should know? ie: rules differences etc

[royal nacelle]

It's a nearly identical to the physical game.

[ancient prawn]

ok awesome. I finally was able to plan a get together with RL buddies for the 26th of july so i want to get to learning the game before then

[royal nacelle]

There may be some odd tiny bits that've been changed (as I found out earlier one of the Ommoran cards has a single word difference for example), but all in all it's about identical

[ancient prawn]

a buddy and I are going to be getting into a game over tts in a bit, so i just wanted to make sure

i'll come back and ask specific questions if they come up

[kindred gale]

Buying another karlok expansion would be illogical or cruel?

[royal nacelle]

Why stop at one extra? Surely you'd want the possibility of getting 3 on the same mission.

[hollow crow]

I think for cosmetic stuff it’s absolutely fine but yeah, nothing gameplay related should be Kickstarter only. Hopefully they change their mind and release the bet c and glittering caves later, or at least upload the rules

[ancient prawn]

Farming an apoca bloom, is "free" but it's in the pickaxe section of the rules

because sometimes the token you flip (eg lootbug) is a pickaxe action

so do i need to roll the pickaxe die before flipping the token, or only after?

[royal nacelle]

You only roll the pickaxe die if you want to harvest something that requires you to use a pickaxe.

And tokens are flipped as you get adjacent to them.

[ancient prawn]

So I can just walk next to a token and flip it

or i have to finish my move in adjacency

[royal nacelle]

You walk adjacent to the token, flip it, and decide if you want to continue your movement action (if you have movement points left). If it doesn't have a pickaxe icon you can walk over the tile and pick it up. If it has a pickaxe icon you can pickaxe it from an adjacent space, or the same space.

[kindred gale]

Do you think bet-c will have seperate box or will be put on inside one of the expansions?

[royal nacelle]

Since it's an exclusive I reckon it'll be its own box. Else they'd have to change the layout of the expansion

[kindred gale]

I dont understand. If it wont have seperate box, then they will have to modify layout of one of the expansions

[royal nacelle]

If they put BETC into one of the expansion boxes... and then the Kickstarter ends... they have to sell a different expansion box, without BETC.

So they would have to make two different inserts for the expanion they put BETC in.

Instead of just having a limited production run of a box for BETC

[kindred gale]

Seems like a great solution

[ancient prawn]

For you, maybe... for them, not so much.

[royal nacelle]

I'm sure they'll be able to figure it out themselves.

[ancient prawn]

once finished with the event phase, do you always activate all creatures? or only in the case of a swarm?

the turn summary is... unclear

[scarlet narwhal]

only if the event card tells you to activate creatures

[royal nacelle]

only when the event card says, and always for swarms

[scarlet narwhal]

and yea, always with swarms

[ancient prawn]

ah! okay. so i got evented by getting nabbed by a grabber

because the card doesn't say anything about it, nothing happens

[royal nacelle]

the grabber grabs you

[scarlet narwhal]

the bulk detonator swarm card (at least mine) has an error where there is no text telling you to activate all creatures

[ancient prawn]

well, yes. the grabber grabs me, and moves me to the furthest spot

[scarlet narwhal]

unless someone is close enough and within LOS of your dwarf for a reaction shot and it succeeds

[ancient prawn]

he wasn't... I got moved from X to current location

[scarlet narwhal]

oh really? i thought the grenade launcher on engi has 4 range IIRC

unless engi is not using that

[ancient prawn]

Stalagmites in the way at the time... engy removed stags

[scarlet narwhal]

ooh

[ancient prawn]

he was in the pod

[scarlet narwhal]

oh wait, grenade launcher ignores LOS (outside of cave walls)

since the grenade would go over them

[royal nacelle]

Depending on his position in the pod he'd be out of range

[scarlet narwhal]

its in the rulebook for engineer's specific abilities

oh right, thats how the pod is oriented in mission 1

[ancient prawn]

yeah, we checked that

[thin vigil]

i presume it'll be like the memorial statue, it's own plain little box with the error tracker, and a separate little box for the caves and bag

[royal nacelle]

BET-C has a hidden cave tile as well, so reckon it'll have an insert like the mini expansions

[ancient prawn]

pickaxing a wall to move... do you need to roll the die for it?

like right here:

ie: digging action

i'm guessing it does, yes

[tacit yew]

they will probably put both sets of kickstarter-exclusive items in their own box

like bet-c box will also contain the error cube, new cave walls will also include the dice bag

i dont think they will make special packaging for all of it

[gentle pine]

Would anyone have time to give me a teaching session of deep rock galactic the boardgame over TTS?

Just looking for a base game experience, see if this is what I want.

[scarlet narwhal]

yep, you use an action to roll pickaxe die, then perform a number of pickaxe actions equal to the result rolled (either 1 or 2, 0 means ya missed). Mining out a wall is part of the list of pickaxe actions, and you do not move into the space after mining a wall tile out

[ancient prawn]

finished the first mission

[barren quartz]

I’m about to paint my brood nexuses, does anybody have one they’re proud of that I can take inspiration from?

[dawn ibex]

I like mine

for something very stylized check out this one

pick a dark base color, dry brush another color for the more raised areas, maybe an accent color for the tentacles

[ember ledge]

it is a fantastic ressource to try out stuff and situations and to do a "quick" playthrough without having to wrestle with 5 boxes 😄

[vast cosmos]

Hello Fellow Dwarfs,

Been playing the regular game since a while, I really would like to buy the board game but before investing in some better equipment i was wondering if some of you tested the tabletop simulator version on pc/Steam

I never played any real board gales, only card games like magic and might be overwhelmed by the rules, so testing it on tabletop simulator that is on sale might convince me to buy the regular version.

On the other hand any extensions that are essential even when starting the game?

Rock and Stone!

[midnight maple]

Not at all! I played with the base games for months before I got an extension (and even now I only have one).
There's plenty of replay value in the base game beyond the preset missions in the book! You can make custom missions and map layouts, and (if you have the time) deep dives are a ton of fun!

[ornate dock]

Deep dive are so fun, and yiu a an even add homebrew rules to spice the game up

[midnight maple]

Yeah! It's the main way I play with my friends group

[midnight maple]

What homebrew rules do you use?

[barren quartz]

Those are both great inspiration, thank you! I think you nailed the brood nexus in terms of color

[stiff rivet]

Depends on how many you want to spend, the base game is great easy to play, and straightforward. For the new expansion we can't say if they are good or not however, the biome expansion add a lot more to mission variety with the new mobs and biomes. The space rigs add the mission campaign which add a continuity between missions. Both expansion add something great to the game, however the game itself is already very good.

[royal nacelle]

I'd have time shortly but looks like we're in wildly different timezones. Feel free to poke me in a private message next time you have time and we can see

[royal nacelle]

Tabletop Sim version is up to date with the previous expansions (not the ones currently on Kickstarter). Fully playable and even has a heap of automation to help with setup and whatnot. Let me know if you want a quick walkthrough and I can show you the ropes

[vast cosmos]

Hey thanks for the reply, so if i can get a grip understanding the rules on tabletop sim and enjoy it there i'll certainly enjoy the physical version.

I'll probably buy it then.

If I have any questions, I might bother you then, but probably not too soon. Lot of work and not many days off.

But I appreciate it 😉

Thanks 🙏

[vast cosmos]

I checked out fast the simulator, but might need to find a guide, heading to work soon. I tought maybe the scripts loaded the missions and placed some of the biome and other stuff for starting the missions on the main board.

so probably need to add them manually, I do get an error when trying to load the scripts

[royal nacelle]

It does, you click the mission names on the left in the list

[vast cosmos]

marked in red in the chatbox

[royal nacelle]

you don't have to do any fancy scripting or opening of stuff, just click the list

[vast cosmos]

ok I'll try that

[royal nacelle]

it's fully automated

don't go touching scripts n stuff

[ornate dock]

Before the expansions we had a rule similar to hyperactive creatures Where every mob would activate every turn

And you ?

[vast cosmos]

ok, was A Dumbass didn't know i had to click on the table directly

my mistake

I seem kinda stupid now

[ornate dock]

Thank you for showcasing mine as an exemple that made my day !

[dawn ibex]

I really dig the palette

once finished it would look really cool on the table

[royal nacelle]

No you seem a bit too bright since you thought to go look into loading scripts and whatnot. xD

[vast cosmos]

I'l probably watch on youtube some video's first of a play through of mission one and some others and I'll try it later on. Thanks again for all the help.

[gilded niche]

This How to Play video via TTS may help a bit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5LQ5FVhO00

[midnight maple]

We have a few

1. At the start of the game, each player draws 2 random secondaries to pick from. And if they don't like their options, they mulligan and draw a third secondary, but they have to take it. It's mainly to increase diversity in games so we don't lock ourselves to the same weapons
2. Turn order rotates like in texas hold'em, where the player that went first last turn, goes last in the next, and the player that was after him in last turn goes first. This one is just to give everyone a time to shine and make strategizing more fluid.
3. Creatures pile up where if multiple dwarves are in equal distance from an enemy when it activates, it chooses to the dwarf who has more creatures close to it.
4. My favorite one, if the swarm threat marker reaches the final space, instead of it being an instant loss, every swarm threat increase triggers a swarm.
   I won't lie. It does make the game kinda easier, and we did win a fair bit of games we should've lost without it. But it also makes it more fun for us by allowing us to be greedier with our time, and it's more fun losing to a hoard of enemies than an anticlimactic countdown

[royal nacelle]

Don't think I've posted my full female team before (only individually). Realised while ago after finishing Gobbo driller that I can run a full team 🙂

[steep pulsar]

I've seen all these before, and your painting is always good, but I wanted to specifically call out that Hawaiian shirt. Totally nailed it.

[royal nacelle]

Thank you kindly 🙂

[vast cosmos]

Great work, showed them to my wife she went nuts, she wants the same if we will play the board game. She would have loved similar skins ingame.

[vast cosmos]

You got yourself a new subscriber, always nice getting help from a fellow Dad.

[gilded niche]

Very kind, thank you!

[heady sinew]

That is an excellent Hawaiian shirt.

[midnight maple]

How do you print with so much details?

[royal nacelle]

Resin printing. Could probably even squeeze some more detail out of the models with a better printer/resin, mine is a pretty cheap one.

[midnight maple]

Oh, I don't have the equipment nor environment to make resin printing safe, sad

[royal nacelle]

Yeah, can always outsource the printing itself I suppose, but depends on how much of it you want to do.

[gentle pine]

What time zone u in?

[royal nacelle]

GMT+1

[gentle pine]

6 hours ahead of me, not bad

[royal nacelle]

Nah just considering your message was at nearly 4am my time xD I'm sure we can find something that works on weekends if not today

If you're up for it in the next 5 hours or so I'm game

[gentle pine]

That's fair. I'd need to do it on a Friday

[dawn ibex]

I might just fall for fomo and get horrors of hoxxes

damn you mood

[bright summit]

that´s exactly what I said. Ended up pledging the 185€

[gentle pine]

If all the characters were screen printed meeples I think id back without knowing how the game played

[dawn ibex]

I think I won't pledge actually

Ill hold strong

don't think the ks exclusives are that dramating atp

but its hard

[barren quartz]

Working on my praetorian

[warm zealot]

Yeah don’t worry! Even if you don’t get them, you’ll still have fun with the main expansions!

[warm zealot]

This looks awesome.

[barren quartz]

Thank you!

I can’t quite manage to mix together a color that works for the lower body / under the shell

[warm zealot]

Maybe a sort of reddish brown?

[barren quartz]

That might be worth a shot

Ideally I’d like to use a cream color but that just ends up undersaturated with speed paints

[ancient prawn]

Question regarding pickups... do i have to finish my movement ON the actual tile for a fossil/apoca bloom ? Or can I run through the tile and pick it up as a free action? the "Farming" section isn't specifically covering it

[warm zealot]

Whenever I pick up something, I spend a movement action while next to it to pick it up.

That’s atleast how I do it.

[ancient prawn]

Actually, found it under Pg 9

just answered my own

[royal nacelle]

You automatically pick it up as you move on the tile and can continue movement

[warm zealot]

Good to know!

[ancient prawn]

yeah, just found it there

for the engy turret... when you place it, can it automatically fire to the grunts that are in range?

or does it have to move in the range? (like motion activated)

[midnight maple]

Once per activation, it shoots once every creature that moves inside its range, and every creature that enters its range (provided it has line of sight on it)

So basically, shoots once per creature per activation

[royal nacelle]

It doesn't fire when placed. It fires when creatures move into its range, or activate within its range (move or attack), or are spawned in its range. One shot per creature per turn.

[ancient prawn]

so if grunt A moves into range, it shoots. grunt dies. grunt B moves into range, it shoots at grunt B, correct?

in case of 2 grunts during one "activate all creatures" card

[royal nacelle]

yes

[ancient prawn]

Korlok Tyrant Weed Sprout... the attack with the ! is a wierd symbol...

I don't see if anywhere else

is it supposed to be

[tacit yew]

im pretty sure thats it

[ornate dock]

No it mean that it knock you one Space behind you like the shellback

[tacit yew]

it never made sense to me that a tyrant weed would do that

[ancient prawn]

mission 2 success

despite korlok weed, and a bulk spawning

[warm zealot]

made it out of here right when the oppresser spawned

[tacit yew]

i love when that happens

when a massive enemy spawns as you are extracting it makes it so much more fun

[midnight maple]

Happened to me on my first mission ever

[upbeat oasis]

I can't find the rule but I feel like I remember reading once that one of the big ones could crush grunts if it walked through them

[midnight maple]

Yup, and it's not even sorry about it

[upbeat oasis]

That's great
Thanks for letting me know I never would've found it

[midnight maple]

Np!

[wooden widget]

Little man is chuffed!
So happy that the package arrived quickly - I'm in Europe. Bought on Wednesday afternoon and it's already here. Very hype

[royal nacelle]

Surely chuffed because he's getting a big box to hide in.

[midnight maple]

Cool car

[plucky furnace]

For anyone painting their minis what do you prime them with? Black or white? Or some random colour depending on the mini?

[plucky furnace]

MOOD is amazing at shipping in europe. I believe their warehouse is in germany, so when I ordered some stuff to deliver in Netherlands that order came withing 2-3 business days, really love that instead of waiting for several weeks!

[royal nacelle]

Mainly black, altho still working on using up a can of light brown so occasionally prime some creatures with that

[wooden widget]

i start with black, then i go a zenithal with a grey and white (albeit testing if white should be done only via a drybrush).
Then I go with two light colors - one from top and one from bottom (like a zenithal and undershot) to get an environmental shadow/ambient light which I build on top of. But that is a bit experimental.

If you're running speedpaints you can do some fun color tricks with your underpainting

[plucky furnace]

Wait, what book is this rule found? I cant find it as well

[midnight maple]

Base game rulebook, in the oppressor's description

[plucky furnace]

Gotta check that one when I get home then, i guess we have been playing this completely wrong. Whoops

[midnight maple]

Dw, every time I play with my friends, we start the session by asking "What rule did we get wrong this time?"

[ancient prawn]

Is this supposed to apply to all "big" (double based) enemies? like the Bulk and Dread?

[royal nacelle]

No

[ancient prawn]

ok, just the oppressor

[royal nacelle]

Dreadnought goes through walls and stalagmites, Bulk Detonator doesn't.

[midnight maple]

Not sure about bulk because I don't have that expansion. Dreadnoughts do break walls and stalagmites, but don't harm grunts

[ancient prawn]

ok

[barren quartz]

Ohhhh I just realized why I struggled with the Korlok tyrant weed so bad, I assumed at symbol meant you get knocked down this whole time 😅

I’m glad you clarified since I didn’t even notice the difference between the symbols lol

[ornate dock]

i don't want a virus thanks

[barren quartz]

Mods ban this man 😠

[ornate dock]

mod execute him

[tardy merlin]

New weapons (Kickstarter Exclusives):

Sorry about bad quality, took screenshots on my phone

[bright summit]

I can already imagine the "shooting the eye of the Caretaker" mechanics. Having to stand on a specific side of the caretaker to do any damage, similar to standing behind the Praetorian to ignore the resistances.

[royal nacelle]

The images themselves are actually lowres, I scaled em up a bit

[midnight maple]

Are they part of the whole kickstarter rewards, or exclusively to the rivals expansion?

[ornate dock]

plasma catapult is an intersting anti-grunt weapon

[royal nacelle]

Previously they've gone into a specific expansion.

[dawn ibex]

black if just using acryllic, zenithal with speedpaints

[midnight maple]

-# My bank account may never recover from this

[royal nacelle]

Altho that said: "These cards are Kickstarter exclusives, and they won't be available after the campaign has ended."

[midnight maple]

Yeah. But that begs the question, for any kickstarter pledge, or exclusive to specific pledges?

[royal nacelle]

Going back looking at the earlier campaigns, the other cards (as well as the swarm cards) are for backers only.

[royal nacelle]

Any expansion pledge I would assume as last time around.

[midnight maple]

Cool

That, my bank account can handle

[rain escarp]

I for sure would drop money on the kickstarter the discount is pretty nice but im also waiting on the main board game still

[royal nacelle]

24 days to go

[spiral belfry]

I already pledged the collector's edition because I have really enjoyed the game thus far

Very excited to get another coin, I missed out on the first one because I was busy and didn't expect much of the game when I heard the first announcement

[rain escarp]

Im being cautious cause i have not played the game yet cause i had some item troubles im for sure i would enjoy it tho

[spiral belfry]

Hopefully you do enjoy it, then :)

[urban iron]

Boosterbomb will become my go-to for sure haha

the reason i lose missions is not being able to revive other dwarfs

[vast cosmos]

Hey another noob question as i'm trying to learn the game by tabletop simulator. How does this explosive dice work as the grenade launcher seems to touch up to 3 squares, does it scare up to 3 Enemies and do they all move two squares away?

And do any of you guys play the game in the close future on tabletop simulator or might stream it on discord, so i might watch a game?

thanks again for all the help so far 🙂

[royal nacelle]

Yes the dice roll affects all creatures in the area it hits.

[vast cosmos]

thanks!

[royal nacelle]

Hard when it's random draw, altho could always play with the Helmet HUD upgrade that lets you select an additional throwable.

[urban iron]

I never do random draw at the start with grenades, i only do random draw when i get an extra grenade

[royal nacelle]

aha fair enough

[midnight maple]

"Heroes never die" intensifies

[urban iron]

hahaha

[spiral belfry]

Do you pick grenades before or after you decide on a mission setup? Very curious how the game plays with one extra pre-determined tool at your disposal

[urban iron]

Its the last thing i pick before starting the mission

No specific order

[kindred gale]

Doubke hit wses if addicional?

[royal nacelle]

double hit uses 1 additional secondary ammo

[kindred gale]

Oooh so 1 ammo per damage

[midnight maple]

A friend suggested the idea of making classes based on the classes of rogue core, but giving them a twist like a reverse/counterparts to existing classes with a twist on the base mechanics of the game like tainted characters in the binding of isaac

Could be a fun challenge

[urban iron]

That sounds really fun!

[median ice]

New expansions means I have to get through painting the previous ones before they arrive! Love how sloppy I can be with the undercoating for speedpaint on the bugs.

[ornate dock]

I really like the effect on your base

finally finished both the brood nexus and the spitballer

[mystic compass]

Pledge 1 dollar. Then you can always increase your pledge the desired ammount, while it also takes VAT and shipping into account. Gives you maybe 2 months to make up your mind

[night tundra]

THERE IS A DGR BOARD GAME !!!!

[tacit yew]

[night tundra]

What is that supposed to mean ?

[tacit yew]

nothing

but yes there is a drg board game

[night tundra]

SUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY !!!!

[midnight maple]

We got another one, lads

Welcome to the crew

[midnight maple]

LMAO

[royal nacelle]

There's currently a Kickstarter campaign for some new expansions, everything's pretty well discounted as well if you don't mind waiting about half a year to receive stuff. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-rivals-and-horrors-of-hoxxes

Altho they may send the base game earlier, they did that last campaign.

[night tundra]

Thnx ill look forward to it :]

[vast cosmos]

Mann if I Had the money I would buy the full collection, cause I Didn't decide where to buy it yet.

Hesitating between regular and deluxe and Would like at least the Space rig extension to start

[royal nacelle]

If you're getting any expansions then Deluxe is the way to go, there are no standard versions of the expansions. Altho I suppose Spacerig is the one you'd probably not mind the miniatures from much.

And get use of the assignment system and whatnot

[midnight maple]

The biggest challenge I found with this so far is making each class's traversal tool

[midnight maple]

Is there something special about the deluxe version beyond having 3d models for everything?

[royal nacelle]

Nope. Deluxe is just miniatures.

[midnight maple]

Ah

Welp, I'll stay with my standard version then. Don't have the space to hold and carry the deluxe edition

[vast cosmos]

Do you travel a lot or take your boardgames with you?

[midnight maple]

I live pretty from my friends, so when we play, it's usually me coming over to their place.

Each of us has a different board game we bring, and I'm on drg duty

Already, bringing the base game box and biome expansion box is a lot

[vast cosmos]

Yeah I understand in that Case.

It's really cool to have such gaming nights with friends.

[mystic compass]

I am lucky to be the DRG guy and also be the owner of a 6'x4' table from playing TT Wargames. It's about enough space to play DRG

[midnight maple]

Best I can offer you is the kitchen counter or dinner table

Although playing on the floor/living room carpet is also fine in a pinch

[tacit yew]

i would never put a game this expensive on the floor

especially if there are pets or children around

[mystic compass]

When the dog eats the morkite:

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-gif-6658387537738097417

[mystic compass]

I assume it's a small dinner table in this case?

[midnight maple]

We don't have those, thankfully

[midnight maple]

Not really, just need to put everything that was on it aside before you can set up the game

[dawn ibex]

We finally beat the damn dreadnought but it took a full crew of four! Can you find the scout???

[wooden widget]

there's no scout, only re-supply pod

scout was consumed by his greed

[prime gale]

Embed fail🥀

Forgot there were no gifs here

[wooden widget]

only re-supply pods friend

[prime gale]

Praise the nitra!

[bright tartan]

In the belly of the beast

[warm thunder]

The painting is absolutely incredible, major props!

[dawn ibex]

Thank you so much! It really elevates the gameplay

[midnight maple]

Does making a slicer class that has a melee primary weapon sound like a good idea?

My general idea right now is making whole kit revolve around his sword, where it can function as a better pickaxe and a mobility tool at the cost of ammo

[tacit yew]

sounds more like an upgrade to driller than a new class

you could give him the plasma blast attack from the breach cutter

[midnight maple]

Well, that is kind of the idea

But I was going more in direction of like a cleave attack with R1 attack that you roll 2 pickaxe dice for and a single target lunge attack with R3 that moves you in an adjacent space to the target you attacked

[royal nacelle]

Melee usually ends up being rather situational, a lot of the time you don't really want to intentionally move closer to creatures when there's more than one around. It could end up too much like a "hit and run" weapon where you get into melee, hit once (or twice if you're doing a lunge attack) and then always have to spend movement getting away, unless you manage to kill the creature(s).

Sounds feasible I suppose but would require some amount of playtesting. Don't want to make the weapon too powerful, or too weak either, so it's some Rambo Dwarf rushing into melee and chopping everything up every time.

[midnight maple]

Yeah. I want to make the class feel like a reckless tank charging into a horde of enemies rather than a hit-and-run coward acrobat, so a reward for jumping into danger is really important

[scarlet narwhal]

could add fear effect to nearby enemies to prevent being swarmed by melee

[midnight maple]

Tinkering with the idea of temporary health when you get melee kills, but that's a really thin line to tread so it won't turn out overpowered or completely useless

[midnight maple]

Could work. But i want something that lets you scream "witness me!" In a stressful situation rather than giving you literal breathing room

I'll playtest these ideas soon

[warm zealot]

Can someone explain to me how the sentry works?

[royal nacelle]

It shoots when a creature is placed within its range, moves into or inside its range, or activates within its range. It shoots at the same time as a creature activates so if a creature is within attack range they'll attack eachother (potential mutual destruction).

[warm zealot]

Thank you!

Sorry, fat fingers.

[hollow crow]

yeah knowing that enemies are going to need to 'waste' one activation moving into range is really important to staying alive. The poor melee class wouldn't get that luxury, they'd probably need more health or to ignore the first point of damage each turn

[lime jungle]

The Spitballer grows legs and walks a few paces back

[warm zealot]

Do you draw a card once bosco's turn is over?

Event card)

[lime jungle]

You play your turn, then bosco, then you draw an event card

[midnight maple]

Yup. But a flat extra health boost is also problematic because it it would help you survive a few hits before getting back to normal player health and then you're just a resource sink to keep yourself from dying in melee fights
That's why I think the temporary health on adjacent kills is a good idea since it solves that problem by doing the exact thing you wouldn't want to do with other classes by going for melee fights, and you have to keep fighting to maintain the reward and survive these fights

[lime jungle]

Got that infectious, acidic toe jam 🤮

[royal nacelle]

If you end your turn adjacent to it you have to roll for damage due to the poison cloud.

[plush surge]

The lack of eyes is unacceptable.

[lime jungle]

Consider the following:

Mad, glyphids?

[royal nacelle]

Lucky with the Slasher there

[mystic compass]

Until the webspitter kills the sentry next act

[royal nacelle]

Can't shoot past the Slasher, and the Slasher is resistant to bullet damage, so the sentry can't kill it.

[mystic compass]

Oh, yeah. That's right

[royal nacelle]

Here's hoping for some indirect fire creatures next eh? 😄

[lime jungle]

Bugs get the L

My guess is the stabber vines have that ability next expansion

Or more likely septic spreader

[royal nacelle]

Sandy Shark du duuu du du Saaaandy Shark du duuu dudu

[lime jungle]

should paint the trawlers baby shark color scheme

[mystic compass]

It's already announced. Septic spreader

[mystic compass]

I wasn't the first to think of that ig. 😁

[royal nacelle]

And by the looks of it, it might have range 7? xD

[mystic compass]

Oh damn

The barrage infector might also be indirect

For all that matters Bet-C will be

[spiral belfry]

I don't care what the rules say, I'm not disabling bet-c

[spiral belfry]

That bottom line of text doesn't exist

[royal nacelle]

What line of text? 🙈

Reckon you'll give it 5 health when repaired? 😛

[spiral belfry]

I'm going to rule BET-C more like the turret. 1 health, least priority target, after the first swarm/objective event it rolls 2 bullet dice when a creature is activated in range (applied only to the target creature)

I also think it would be funny to roll a d6 to determine which direction it moves once no longer infected

Makes it decently useful, but not quite as powerful as a seven space explosion on each creature that activates, lol

[royal nacelle]

Suppose you could also have it go dormant after swarm, and require a 'repair' again.

[midnight maple]

Huge win

So the only exclusive part to each pledge now is the cosmetic stuff
I'm completely fine with that

[royal nacelle]

Pledge levels though, not actual boxes, unless I'm reading it wrong.

Think it still means they're exclusive, just that you'll get both if you only pledge for one expansion.

[midnight maple]

What do you mean?

What's the difference?

[royal nacelle]

Well they've written pledge level, rather than expansion (or expansion box). After the Kickstarter you're no longer pledging for a campaign level, you're buying an expansion box. So difference is what comes in the box, wether or not the bits are added to the box or are tied to the campaign. Unless they misspoke when typing pledge level.

Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding the wording.

[midnight maple]

Oh yeah I understand now

[royal nacelle]

I hope they did add them to the expansions, just that the "pledge level" mention confused me.

[midnight maple]

I think they're still KS exclusive

[midnight maple]

I assume it refers to the pledges to the different expansions

[ancient prawn]

yeah, because basically, you're not getting both of them if you're getting the "all in" bundle.

you get it if you're doing "only" horrors of hoxes, you're also getting it if you're getting "only" rival incursion, but you're already/also getting it if you're getting both.

if it was "added to the box" you would get it twice if you were getting both.

[midnight maple]

So basically
one of each if you get horrors of hoxxes, one of each if you get rival incursion, and still one of each of you get both?

[royal nacelle]

That certainly seems like what the update says.

Also max one per pledge does make it sound like you can't get extras even if you were to add extra expansions through the pledge manager.

[midnight maple]

Alright, nice to have that cleared. Though they haven't updated it in the pledge contents yet

[tardy merlin]

They have updated pledges 1 and 2 under the Campaign tab now.

[midnight maple]

Oh even error cube tracker??

Christmas came early I guess

[tardy merlin]

I think this mus be an error as the table that shows everything included in each pledge level shows Horrors of Hoxxes having the glyphid dice bag instead of the error cube tracker:

[midnight maple]

I don't think it's updated considering it still shows the glittering cave walls and bet c only available in their own pledge level

[wooden widget]

Hey quick q, regarding dug out surprise and grabber attack - can the affected dwarf react with an attack or only others?

[scarlet narwhal]

only other dwarves

[scarlet narwhal]

this also applies to the slasher version of dug out surprise

[gleaming dune]

Anyone happen to know what size sleeves I need for the mini beer/mission cards?

[scarlet narwhal]

i've been wondering this myself tbh

[royal nacelle]

Cards themselves are 44x63mm

Think I saw 48x68mm mentioned, but don't quote me on that

[stuck marsh]

✅ quoted

[midnight maple]

I have a question about stls because I don't really know how they work. Do they have the dimensions built into them or do I have to set the size before I print then?

[royal nacelle]

Dimensions are built in, although you'd have to double check if there's a millimeter/inch conversion, some slicers can prompt regarding either, but usually I've had no issues.

[midnight maple]

Nice. Thanks!

[dawn ibex]

Alright, I think the inclusion of bet-c convinced me

damn you mood

[royal nacelle]

Yep they're clearly evil

[dawn ibex]

actually surprised that people backing individual expansions are a minority

3900~ went for the collectors bundle

26 for only the rivals expansion

73 for horrors of hoxxes

[royal nacelle]

Very few first time backers, reckon those still hanging in there are the devoted ones.

[cloud aurora]

It always was like that, most people go for the all in collector's, it's usually the best deal

Kind of sad we didn't get another update today on some of the new mechanics like last time

[midnight maple]

My biggest question is how do you people have the space to store everything?

That the biggest reason I got only the horrors expansion and not the standard bundle or collector's bundle

aside from money

[royal nacelle]

They're on a shelf.. they don't take that much space, unless you've no space at all I suppose. Then again, DRG does take up nearly as much space as all my other board games combined. I could get rid of a few games I suppose that I extremely rarely play, but DRG is my most played one.

[midnight maple]

Amazing how fun a game is when it's built for replayability and not a forced one like playing the same setup over and over

-# I really hate repeating games like chess

[scarlet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

dang embed fail

im sure you get the message from the name of the gif tho

anyways, i just have all my board game boxes stacked in my closet

[scarlet narwhal]

heaviest boxes at the bottom

[pallid mantle]

Are the mini mules supposed to be this off center?

[royal nacelle]

Supposed to be as in intentionally designed? Unlikely. That it's at times a reality of production, sure.

[tacit yew]

my cave exit 1 and 2 tiles are insanely off center

it saddens me

but at the same time i dont really care

¯_(ツ)_/¯

secret tiles being off center definitely does affect gameplay though

[pallid mantle]

Yeah, I haven't played with the expansions yet, too busy painting them. But I'm making 3D printed inserts for the tokens and noticed it being off center.

[scarlet narwhal]

dangit now im gonna check mine and realize its off center too

[pallid mantle]

Don't check them! Ignorance is bliss.

[mystic compass]

I think the size is called american mini

[tacit yew]

are you designing your own?

[pallid mantle]

I found a file online that I am making some changes to

[tacit yew]

ok

[warm zealot]

Finally got goo from above! My question is though, how annoying are the bombers and menaces?

[royal nacelle]

I've had some really really annoying situations with the Menace, having it sit at range 6 picking at my Dwarves that're behind grunts or webbed, with range 5 weapons...

Bombers can at times be really annoying, I often pick them off as primary targets.

[warm zealot]

Hell yeah! This is gonna be “fun”!

[royal nacelle]

Menace is annoying enough if you can't kill it in a single attack, since it hides until next turn.

[somber hemlock]

I was kinda surprised to see that, for the people who are only getting one expansion, horrors of hoxxes is more popular than rivals. I'm likely not going to be getting anything from this kickstarter as I don't feel like I really need any of the new stuff, but if I did, I think I would be inclined to just get the rivals expansion. That's the one that's adding some new and unique content to the game, whereas horrors of hoxxes just seems to be sort of a remixed version of biomes with slightly less content. I guess maybe people's hatred for the caretaker mission in the video game has influenced the board game as well.

[lime jungle]

Literally unplayable

[royal nacelle]

I think a lot of people look at the number of miniatures and amount of cardboard/cards. Spacerig vs Biome was quite hotly discussed last time around, or rather that they were the same price and differing amount of 'content'.

[scarlet narwhal]

if I had to guess why Horrors of Hoxxes is more popular, then it would be that Horrors has more content, mainly through the minis/enemy variety but also the new biomes

[tacit yew]

horrors definitely has more content

more enemies and biomes > one new mission type

[scarlet narwhal]

for all we know there could be more than 1 new mission type, like with how the Space Rig expansion got those underground deposit missions. it could be added the same way as that mission type too

though it is unlikely

[tacit yew]

even if that was true, they would probably do the same thing for the horrors expansion

which means both get more content

which means one of them still has more

[scarlet narwhal]

could happen

but also could not

only time will tell

[gleaming dune]

Hoping to pick up everything, but if I can only choose one between Goo From Above and Detonator, which do people recommend? Already have the Korlok and Shockwyrm looks cool as hell

[royal nacelle]

If you're picking up everything else I'd recomment the Bulk Detonator, as you'll have plenty of smaller enemies but not so many big ones.

[scarlet narwhal]

between goo from above and bulk det, I would pick goo from above. the Goo Bomber and Menace have both swarm and event cards so you usually get to see one or both of them at least once per mission

while the bulk det is only a swarm card

[warm thunder]

I have played 8ish missions or so with the Bulk Detonator shuffled in but have never encountered him yet, so I can thoroughly vouch for Goo From Above having a greater chance of entering into every time played. The number of Goo Bombers and Menaces I've faced is a LOT.

Though, one could argue the rarity of the Bulk makes it more exciting and creates more unique setups based on what's happening on the board. The looming threat has definitely created tension, even without him showing up!

Can't really go wrong with either direction: Either get smaller, more frequent events or one big but rare event.

[scarlet narwhal]

personally I've only encountered the Bulk twice. the first time was a solo + bosco round where I just used Bosco to deal with the bulk detonator while I completely ignored it because it spawned on the other side of the board. The other time I was playing with my brother... and it ended up being the death of us.

[tacit yew]

goo from above creatures spawn way more but when a bulk spawns its pretty much the most stressful thing that can happen

i think i would choose bulk

[warm thunder]

I'm really torn going either way. They're both great but for completely different reasons.

[tacit yew]

flip the 24 hour collectable coin to decide

i was bored so i just decided to sleeve all 175 of my cards

it feels so much better

im not sure why i didnt do this before

[hollow crow]

I haven’t pledged yet, as if Games Workshop announce a cool looking Chaos Dwarf army next week as predicted it will probably take my hobby time and budget, but I also think Horrors of Hoxxes is much more appealing

Firstly, you get more miniatures, but also the extra biomes kind of complete the whole DRG base game. You can go to basically everywhere you could in the computer game

Also, I never loved the robots as much- caretaker fight was fun the first time, but got old, and their designs aren’t as iconic as the bugs

that said, as ever, the collector's bundle is the best deal by a long way

[wooden widget]

is there a way to get or print the memorial statue? 🤔

[scarlet narwhal]

nope, its a kickstarter exclusive

[lyric sapphire]

Is the Korlok Tyrant Weed expansion worth it?

I have every expansion except it

[tacit yew]

in my opinion its the worst expansion out of them all

they are probably going to fix the cave back colour issue but even if they do the expansion still doesnt change much

the korlok fight is definitely fun though

if you really care about being a collector and having all the expansions then i guess its worth it

[lyric sapphire]

I'll probably get around to getting it eventually but I think I'll wait

Thank you

[midnight maple]

I personally dislike the idea of chance based content, but at least the korlok cave doesn't have to compete with an entire deck of cards for a chance to show up

It's still random but a 1 in 9 (soon to be 1 in 10 with bet c) is much better than 1 in [however many cards the swarm deck has]

[tacit yew]

yeah true i guess

[midnight maple]

You also lose a potential weapon upgrade by getting it instead of a normal cave but I'm not sure how good the tradeoff is

They hid the bottom tiles of the bet c cave in both pictures but I hope it will have a weapon upgrade and not only just the bet c encounter

Would actually be a reward because trying to get it while bet c is active is a death wish

[plush iron]

Hey, quick question. Does anyone know if the tabletop sim version has the new expansions available to play yet?

Or at least what's been shown so far

[lyric sapphire]

They probably wont be out until the expansions themselves are fully out

[plush iron]

Figured as much.

[midnight maple]

The models aren't public yet so I assume not

[plush iron]

Have the Bet-C cards been shown at all? I haven't been too active at tracking info about it.

[tacit yew]

for a rock and stone card and grenade and ammo (i think thats what it gives you) i would say its worth it

nevermind its 2 RNS and 2 grenades and mineral dice

still worth it imo

[midnight maple]

Yeah I guess

[dawn ibex]

backed HoH now that Bet-C is included

Seems like an interesting addition

not sure how mechanically interesting the Rivals enemies are otherwise

[hushed marsh]

They might be on tts sooner than that actually, last expansion had them up way before at least. We never know ofcourse, but there is hope!

[dawn ibex]

don’t think its an event, but based on a cave tile?

[mystic compass]

Wait until it has launched and take a look at Thingiverse or Cults

[royal nacelle]

Someone asked me to replicate it once but never returned. I put together a quick mockup with video game files, not too hard to do. Depends how accurate you want it.

But the official model has never been made public, or been included in any of the STL packs.

[wooden widget]

gotcha, yeah I was thinking about printing one just to fill out the insert I'm printing, as it has dedicated place for it 😅

[royal nacelle]

else you'll have to pledge for the Steeve statue and wait for that one 🙂

[ornate dock]

Intersting

[royal nacelle]

I would say so. If you don't like to sacrifice a hidden tile for it you could still incorporate it by using it as an 'elimination' type mission (like mission 6 in the base game) where the tile is already revealed and populated, and your mission is to go eradicate it (along with maybe some other side mission).

I've found the encounter to be interesting, and the times it shows up when you least want it to can really throw a wrench into your plans. Difficult part is if you can't get everything and have to decide between them, they all bring something different. Goo from Above creatures show up more often but they're mainly just annoying, add a slight bit of tension, while Korlok and Bulk Det can be really hard encounters.

Most fun I've had with any mini-expansion was really the Bulk Detonator, I've had to kill it with several of my dwarves in the blast area, ending up with 2 of them going down and the third dwarf having to get them up. And one time the bulk (and some other creatures) ended up pushing my entire team into a side cave, where their backs were to the wall and they only survived because Gunner managed to get a zipline up to a small ledge so they could get away from the explosion.

[hushed marsh]

They seem to be throwing the dwarves a lot of bones in the form of the Bet-C assist, the hackable sentries, new upgrades and now the reload Jadiz.
That caretaker and shockwyrm are gonna be no joke are they?

[mystic compass]

I guess they pair well with the new hazard 6 swarm cards and I guess it makes it easier for newer players to play highet difficulty mission, hazarf and anomalies

[mystic compass]

Could also just add it as side objective in any mission with hidden caves. If there is multiple, just shuffle them

[royal nacelle]

Yes but one comment was concerned about losing a weapon upgrade

Of course, there's ways to make up for that as well

new update dropped, mainly to say the mixed missions book is included in the all-in pledge.

[royal nacelle]

Haz6 will be no joke xD

remove all base game swarm cards, only have expansion and haz6 cards.. yup yup

[midnight maple]

A bit of everything and loathsome growths are BRUTAL

Actually piles of pests is as well

I can see runs ending to these swarm cards

[royal nacelle]

Avoid tunnel exits like the plague, basically xD

[bright tartan]

So Brood Nexuses and Spitball infectors arent there at the start of the game/round in the tabletop game ?

[mystic compass]

Unfortunately all of these monsters have 2 health... rip sentry

[bright tartan]

Or is it when you go in a new area they can spawn depeding on the card ?

[royal nacelle]

They are. But can also spawn.

[mystic compass]

Usually they are, but only 2 cards can make them spawn now

[bright tartan]

Huh, interesting

[midnight maple]

I don't think there was a card that spawned brood nexuses before, no?

[mystic compass]

Only spitballers

[bright tartan]

Wonder how it would turn out in the video game, you're mining and then a spitball spawns behind your back

[royal nacelle]

No but I'm too tired to write a longer explanation.

[midnight maple]

God help us all

[ornate dock]

At this point put all thé minis on the table lmaoo

[mystic compass]

There is no god. Only Karl

[royal nacelle]

creature pile-up you might as well.

[ornate dock]

Oh god I forgot about that

Running out of creatures will be easy

Also some hazard 6 évent card would be really cool

[lime jungle]

New Objective: Run.

[royal nacelle]

I think Driller bunkers are going to make an entrance into the board game xD

[ornate dock]

Until a bulk or an oppressor spawn

[royal nacelle]

Quite rare, especially with more and more swarm cards.

[spiral belfry]

Hidden cave segments could spawn both brood Nexus and spitball infector

[ornate dock]

Yes but What if

And îll personally remove the base game swarm for the hazard 6 one

But I do wish we got little more Big enemies

Like I Hope the némésis will have a swarm card

[midnight maple]

I was talking about event cards and swarm cards

[spiral belfry]

Then it was just the sudden growth event card that spawns a spitballer.
Besides that, you're correct. No other card spawned either

[hushed marsh]

The Rivals Expansion doesn't list any swarm cards, while the HoH does... So I doubt it will be one.

[spiral belfry]

That could be an oversight, if it was just the one. Otherwise, the only way it could show up is starting on the board

There's also no swarm card listed for the shockwyrm, nor a tile for it to spawn on

[midnight maple]

Maybe there would be an elimination mission with it like the praetorian mission in the base game

Considering it has its own action deck, I don't believe it'll be a part of a normal swarm

[royal nacelle]

or MSE

[hushed marsh]

I could have sworn I've seen the Shockwyrm's hidden tile somewhere, but I can't find it anywhere anymore.

But is's not listed indeed, that's for sure

[spiral belfry]

The potential to hit two before you kill the 6 health Nemesis makes me think it would be improbable to see it as an MSE, but I guess it is technically possible

I still have nightmares of hitting 6+ spitters in one game because of the spitter MSE

[royal nacelle]

I remember someone here discussing a Dreadnought version that if already spawned from MSE would just heal from a second MSE card

[spiral belfry]

The dwarves are standing on what might be a tile, maybe that's what you're remembering?

[spiral belfry]

Interesting, but would require quite a stretch to work now, considering the mechanics of the beasts

[royal nacelle]

shrug , activate it if it's already spawned, or heal it a point and activate. Or it could be like the Huuli Hoarder MSE, only the first MSE card spawns it, further cards do something else (spawn patrol bot instead?)

[spiral belfry]

I mean, if you aren't pulling the special event cards while it's alive, then I guess? I'm more inclined to got the route of "subsequent draws do something else/nothing" because otherwise it breaks things

[hushed marsh]

I found it in the narrated trailer, the wyrm is standing on what is shaped as a hidden tile, but that doesn't confirm it's the Wyrm's. Guess all we can do is wait for more clarity on that.👀

[royal nacelle]

I was speaking of the Nemesis.

Which doesn't seem to have its own event deck

Since Shockwyrm has its own event deck I'd reckon it spawns from an event card instead of swarm card.

[somber hemlock]

If I do get the rivals expansion, I'm thinking about making a custom "rival presence" hidden cave tile. Kinda like the korlok tile, but with rivals enemies instead, and maybe a space for the new upgrade tokens depending on how they work. Honestly, I speculated before the campaign launched that they might do something like this because it seemed like a good way to have rival enemies incorporated into non-caretaker missions, and it fits with the theme of the video game.

[spiral belfry]

Oh, I saw the dreadnought and thought we were still on that

[royal nacelle]

Sorry I'm bit slow/tired today.

[royal nacelle]

Easy enough to pick one of the existing hidden tiles you don't like much, I've been using the 3 grunts one for the Korlok.

[hushed marsh]

Found the answer to the ShockWyrm question

[urban iron]

I like that

Hope its the same for Nemesis

Would love it if rivals show up in normal missions too

Not just industrial sabotage

[ornate dock]

Yes I hope we get robot swarm/évent card or hidden tile

So we can see them outside IS

[urban iron]

Same

[midnight maple]

I have a feeling they're going to implement the nemesis using the caretaker's cave segment
Since it's a mystery cave, you could shuffle it into the normal mystery caves and implement it like any other, but it would be weird if a caretaker showed up in the middle of a different mission for no reason.

[ornate dock]

That’s an intersting idea

[midnight maple]

It also makes more sense since it's not a bug so there's no reason for it to spawn from a tunnel exit, and having it spawn in the middle of the map like sudden growth would be brutal

[agile ivy]

so will i need to own a moving truck or forklift for when i bring my game to the store now =x lol

i love the game but the boardgame is huge xD

anyone solve their storage issues?

[royal nacelle]

Other than removing the plastic inserts and having the miniatures all loose in the base game box, and then throwing away the other boxes, I'm not sure what a solution would be. If you don't throw away the boxes, where are you storing them, and why can't you store your game there instead.

And if it's about transportation, then decide on what size box you're willing to transport, and go buy one, then add custom padding.

[agile ivy]

well yeah i can do that, but was wondering if anyone had found a good system for storing them all

i might need to magnetize them and store them like i used to do warhammer armies

[gleaming dune]

My storage solution is not owning other board games 😅

[agile ivy]

i dont like bringing just 1 box at a time

i want options =p

[gleaming dune]

My transport solution is inviting people over lol

[agile ivy]

ah yeah my place is too small lol

[royal nacelle]

Unless you can put stuff in a bigger box, or a bag, you could just tape the boxes to eachother.

[agile ivy]

i goto stores

[royal nacelle]

Get a plastic bin your comfortable transporting, or a large backpack.

[gleaming dune]

Hmm... Kinda dicey, but if you're close with the owners of whatever store you play at, maybe you could stash some boxes in the back room?

Not for long term storage, obviously, but if youbplay regularly and keep your space rig at tue store that's one less box to transport?

[agile ivy]

rn my corner of my room is my DRG corner haha

like 4 feet tall xD

[royal nacelle]

How're you stacking them? Or do you have multiples of each box?

[viscid field]

There exists a buyable self-to-print insert which will fit all existing elements into the main box. But this doesn't include the new expansions...

[midnight maple]

I've seen people use deckboxes to hold the cards and make custom boxes with sponge inside to store the miniatures in a more compact storage

[fringe loom]

is there a way for me to access the 2nd edition rulebook somewhere like a pdf?

[royal nacelle]

it's on board game geek

[fringe loom]

ah, forgot thats a thing thx

[royal nacelle]

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/281806/rulebook-deep-rock-galactic-the-board-game-2nd-edi

[agile ivy]

basically you do something like this magnets on the bottoms throw a white board material or a thin metal sheet in a carrying box and throw models on it

how im gonna carry em probably

[frigid shoal]

Everything up until this point fits exactly in a large IKEA FRAKTA Shopper bag without having to throw away the inserts. Stack the Main game + Space Rig expansion on top of eachother, put the Biome expansion on its side next to it, put all Mini-expansions next to that and stick the game-mat on top of that.
However, this is without taking into account the Rival Incursion and Horrors of Hoxxes, so that'll just mean a second shopping bag, probably :P

IKEA apparently has an even larger version of the bag, that might work too!

[agile ivy]

ah the body sized ikea bag

[frigid shoal]

I'd say about Dwarven-sized

[tacit yew]

i probably dont have the skill to play with any of these swarm cards and survive but the art sure is cool

[tacit yew]

so we have 11 hidden caves in total now?

[royal nacelle]

12 if the Shockwyrm actually comes with one.

Considering it's not pictured or mentioned in the campaign text I'm not convinced it does.

[midnight maple]

Did they explain how haz6 is going to work yet?

[royal nacelle]

It's not actual haz 6. You just mix in those fancy new swarm cards and that's it

[midnight maple]

Ah, so the swarm deck is now a Russian roulette

[somber hemlock]

One thing I thought about when they revealed the first set is that if you're playing with all of the expansions, are unlucky enough to get all 5 cave exits in one mission, and then draw the "haz 6" grunt swarm card then you would need to add all 18 grunts the game comes with at once. 💀

[ornate dock]

maybe there will be more, who know ?

[tacit yew]

that would be crazy

[royal nacelle]

Well they said "This is our Hazard Level 6", referring to the first three cards. Sure there might be more cards but I doubt it's going to become some bigger thing.

[ornate dock]

no maybe some customs rules

[royal nacelle]

Just wanting to temper expectations a bit, I'm seeing a lot of wishful thinking and hoping. The risk is getting disappointed because we get basically what we've been told we'll get, and not an imaginary heap more.

[tacit yew]

what is the point of that paper thing on top of BET-C?

[royal nacelle]

Parasites.

[tacit yew]

i feel like it isnt necessary since shes only infected the first time

[royal nacelle]

If to signify if it's been defeated or not yet.

[tacit yew]

i wish we had that for the menace

[somber hemlock]

You could maybe hide it under half of the ommoran heart stone to indicate it's burrowed, if that's what you mean.

[midnight maple]

Or just replace it with the enemy health cubes after you damage it

[midnight maple]

Solution
✨ 𝓕𝓵𝓸𝓸𝓻 ✨

[royal nacelle]

I was going to post an image of an IKEA shipping container.. but didn't wanna derail the channel... yet here we are.

[tacit yew]

lol i never thought of that

i just flip him upside down

[warm thunder]

I replace a burrowed Menace with one of the cardboard stalagmites, it looks like a little burrowed ground spot from the right angle, and doesn't get confused with the stalagmite minis.

[royal nacelle]

"but what are the cardboard stalagmites for, in the deluxe edition?"

[agile ivy]

everytime i see death stranding videos or whatever i just think my god why is your pack so dang tall

dudes 6ft but with backpack 9ft even

lol

[idle finch]

Now you know, it’s all the DRG boardgame

[gleaming dune]

PSA: American mini boardgame sleeves do NOT fit the mission or beer cards. They're a hair too narrow.

[ancient prawn]

BGG has a sizing guide, if i recall correctly, for the game that's actually accurate.

You just have to select the space rig for it to show up, it doesn't show up by default

This is the full set/amount for all expansions, base game, extras and the combined mission book:

[gleaming dune]

Can also now confirm that Dragonshield European mini sleeves are too tall to fit in the box 🤬

[gleaming dune]

Are these the card sizes or the recommended sleeve sizes?

Preeetty sure those are the card sizes.

[ancient prawn]

They're the card sizes, but the sleeves that are supported in the list, list those card sizes as what's supported:

so.. idk. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

there's more than just those two that are on the page

it's just an example

I had some that were for another game, Red November, that I tried, and they didn't fit, because the size was 43x65 instead of DRG's 44x63

so not all mini sleeves/cards are created equal

and the 43x65 are those American Mini ones you were talking about

sorry, i'm a bit of a sleeve slut

[royal nacelle]

What's the opposite? I tried sleeving a couple cards, felt icky, and had to remove the sleeves. Pure unsleeved cards for me only.

[gleaming dune]

I think gamegenic's American size are 43x65? 🤔

[ancient prawn]

i dunno, i just came up with the term because i thought it was funny...

[gleaming dune]

Sleeves for life

Don't take worse care than you have to when it cones to things you care about

[royal nacelle]

I'm a Sleeve Abolitionist

[gleaming dune]

We're enemies now

[royal nacelle]

You don't have the game, I've made custom character miniatures for 3 years...

[ancient prawn]

generally I look them up on amazon or in big sleeve supply stores, to see what the sizes are on the actual package, not on the description page, since most vendors will have them wrong or omit some of those details... if you can see the label, you can generally see the sleeve size.

[gleaming dune]

Yeah, finding the actual sleeve size on the packaging has been an issue

[royal nacelle]

I recall issues even just getting the card sizes, way back when xD

Someone worked out exactly what sleeves the first campaign used

and found them on Amazon

Didn't have any for the small cards, until now though

[ornate dock]

I wonder if you have more hours put into the board game or video game

[royal nacelle]

Counting time spent in Blender making miniatures? xD

[ornate dock]

Yes

Time invested

[royal nacelle]

I reckon it's still the video game, although probably getting to equalizing, all things considered.

huh

okay, well, maybe.. yeah. I dunno. Turns out I have over 500h in tabletop sim which is almost exclusively DRG.

Then model making on top of that...

[ornate dock]

How much hours do you have on the video game ??

[royal nacelle]

🤏 1860 🙈

[ornate dock]

Godamn

Even my most played game doesn’t equal this

[ornate dock]

Deep rock galactic is a way of Life

[royal nacelle]

Guess I'm not telling you my most played hours then

[ornate dock]

I want to know

I am sûre it’s something like factorio

[royal nacelle]

🙊

[ornate dock]

Did i get it right ?

[royal nacelle]

Nope it's a game that I mainly played in alpha and beta

wasn't factorio

was a spaceship crew sim

[ornate dock]

Tell me more I am curious

[royal nacelle]

nah

[tacit yew]

i just got factorio a few days ago

i love it

factorio could actually work as a board game

[scarlet narwhal]

FTL?

[neat mirage]

alright, back to the board games please

[royal nacelle]

Right, do we want an honest 3am Johnno answer to Kickstarter questions...

[warm zealot]

What kickstarter exclusive are you guys most interested in?

[scarlet narwhal]

Barrel.

[warm thunder]

Haz 6 cards (the red swarm cards)

[warm zealot]

Oh damn, had no idea about this, thank you!

[warm thunder]

So far they've shown 6 of them. They might show more, not sure, but I love how spicy they could make a situation become.

[chrome hollow]

does anyone here play the drg board game on Tabletop Simulator??

[tacit yew]

glittery cave walls

[warm zealot]

When i have nobody to play with.

[warm zealot]

Yeah! That one looks super cool, specially the new crystals.

[lime jungle]

Same. Had a bit of a moment figuring out my sleeves

[ember ledge]

Happens to the best of us 😂😅

[ornate dock]

Factorio is so addictive bro

[ornate dock]

Probably bet-c

[hushed marsh]

I have to agree, BET-C sounds awesome

[hushed marsh]

I asked on the kickstarter page about the ShockWyrm and bots/Nemesis.... This answer is rather different than the one they gave before lol... Guess we're gonna have to wait and see.😄

[ornate dock]

So it’s not hidden tile ?

[hushed marsh]

It's a little unclear, as the MOOD collaborator who said in a comment that it was, is the same that now says that it isn't lol.

[royal nacelle]

Best to expect what the campaign page shows I reckon

ie no hidden tile for Shockwyrm

[violet musk]

We know what the jadiz does now

Hey! The Jadiz is a rare gem! At any point during their turn and as a free action, any player may discard a Jadiz gem to reload :)

[mystic compass]

But... but in the videogame jadiz allow me to buy cool beards. I can't believe that they will ruin the game by keeping that feature out.

[royal nacelle]

Send your Jadiz to me and I'll send you beards

[mystic compass]

Now that is an offer hard to decline

[somber hemlock]

I wonder if the kickstarter exclusive stuff will make its way into the TTS mod

[royal nacelle]

Can always make your own that you import as a saved object.

I made this for myself for now.

[somber hemlock]

True (assuming I actually get the content) but it would still be nice if the official assets get added to the mod so it all looks pretty.

[tacit granite]

Is the mixed rulebook in the Kickstarter the same separate rulebook that was in the previous campaign with space rig and biomes?

[hushed marsh]

Yep, the same as last time

[tacit granite]

Cool, thanks.

[barren quartz]

Mostly finished painting my base game constructs

Molly is too silver IMO but I don’t want to risk just painting her white, idk

[royal nacelle]

could try a thinned down black wash (or just regular acrylic thinned down a lot) on top of the silver, to darken it.

[barren quartz]

This is a great idea, I’d prefer this over the box inserts

For the miniatures that have the standard hexagonal base, does anybody know the depth of the cutout at the bottom? I’m trying to see what thickness of magnets would fit underneath without lifting the model off the board (if that makes sense)

[wooden widget]

Do those tile fields mean anything? Like an obstacle you can't move through or just graphical?

[neat mirage]

stalagmites

[royal nacelle]

You add stalagmite miniatures (tokens if standard edition) to them

when you reveal the cave tile

[wooden widget]

If I run out of stalagmites minis I dont add anymore, right?

[royal nacelle]

I checked mine, they're not uniform, and beyond that many miniatures are hollowed out to such extent that it might be difficult to attach anything to them unless you first glue something to their side or fill them with for example green stuff. But some looked to be 2mm, some a bit deeper (the ones that had a flat surface)

[royal nacelle]

Well you can't add more if you don't have em xD you could use the two cardboard stalagmites in addition.

[wooden widget]

Yeah was wondering if it's tied to game balance like with limited enemy count

But if it's always it's all good

[royal nacelle]

You're likely to destroy stalagmites, for their resources. If you don't well then you might end up with a map full of them.

[barren quartz]

Ah okay, I forgot some of them are mostly hollow. Thanks for checking!

[royal nacelle]

It would be a bit of work but if you have a 3d printer maybe you could print small plates that you insert, that fit snugly inside the hex shape of the bottom, and then have a hole in the middle of them for a magnet. Probably the route I would go, stuffing them all with green stuff would take a lot I reckon.

[upbeat oasis]

Does anyone have any clue when the rules to the new expansions will be released

[timber snow]

is it meant to show this date?

[ornate dock]

No it’s an estimation

[timber snow]

a what

oh

[ornate dock]

Sorry typo

[timber snow]

its fine

[ornate dock]

Let’s hope but I doubt it

[thin vigil]

time travel

[timber snow]

yeah, going back in time to give me the board game is crazy

[ornate dock]

This is the estimation

I Hope we can get it sooner but I doubt it

[scarlet narwhal]

you already had it, you just never knew

[timber snow]

hey chat, so i just found out that is the old kickstarter, how do i cancel my order?

it didnt actually stop from ordering it btw, so i just want to know if i can cancel it before the money gets taken away for nothing

oh and i didnt use a Kickstarter account to order it either, am i screwed?

okay, so, if its the old kickstarter, when they go to collect their money, it wont take from that will it?

[viscid field]

I've made such plates, but for the 3d printed ones which have a different cutout. Have space for a 5x1 magnet. Can be found on Printables.

[ancient prawn]

Rules question: Does the creature's "damage resistance" apply even if you wounded it in the previous activation? Ex: Menace has a resist of 1 bullet and 3 HP... with 3 hits, I deal 2 hp damage to it. (`1 gets "absorbed" by the damage resistance). Since it has 2 damage already, next turn/dwarf, do we need to do 2 bullet damage to it, or just 1?

[royal nacelle]

Resistance always applies to each attack except when removed by "ignores resistances" upgrade or such.

[ancient prawn]

ok

[royal nacelle]

Each shot even, doesn't matter if you're shooting multiple times in the same action, or anything else. Always applies.

[ancient prawn]

so gunner's 3 round burst is 1 shot, the next "salvo" shot, would "eat" another bullet hit, since it's a subsequent shoot action

[royal nacelle]

Yes using the minigun you roll three bullet dice, you remove one hit due to resistance, even if you continue shooting in the same action the next dice rolls are reduced again due to resistance.

[ancient prawn]

Also, in the case of a card like Sweet Spot -

if I don't do the option, I don't increase the swarm

[royal nacelle]

yup

some cards will increase swarm threat either way

but if it's part of the optional text then yeah it's optional

[barren quartz]

Is this the one? I notice it specifies it’s for the 3d printable models but I’m not sure how different they are from the production miniatures
https://www.printables.com/model/1271174-magnetic-bases-for-deep-rock-galactic-the-boardgam/files

Also, I’ve been taking a lot of painting inspiration from pics people have posted here so I thought I’d share mine in case anyone benefits:

[barren quartz]

I tried laser cutting some pieces of 2mm plywood to fit the bases and it’s pretty easy to seat them snug inside a miniature

I’m still waiting for my magnets to arrive before I cut out magnet slots but this seems to be the best solution for my use case

[mystic compass]

Question. If I say pledge for the collector bundle and I put on an additional of the new expansions. Will I then get the 20% off the add on as if I hd pledge level A or B?

Same with getting 2 collectors, do I get it as if I pledged 2 times?

[viscid field]

Yes, those are mine.

[barren quartz]

Oh, I didn’t realize you were saying you were the one who designed these. Thanks for sharing them! It you don’t mind I’d like to use your stalagmite model for reference

[viscid field]

I don't mind. Feel free to use them. Be aware that at least some 3d printed models only have a clearance of 1mm below them, not all of them have 2mm.

[midnight maple]

Ok, I tried this out out. Honestly, wasn't half bad.
Completely forgot about the idea of protection/extra extra health for survivability (basically played like a vanilla character) and it went pretty well

I tried it on mission 11 of the biome expansion on haz 5 and he died only once

We still lost because we weren't focused enough on the objectives, but that's besides the point

[ornate dock]

Was it fun to play ?

[midnight maple]

yeah! the idea was that the primary was a melee weapon where the first attack mode functioned as two pickaxe actions, and the second was r3 for 2 pierce dice, but it's a single target attack and moves you to a space adjacent to the target (basically as a traversal tool to cross wide pits and deal with flying enemies). it was a bit clunky because he got the jury rigged boomstick as his secondary so he had very little range, but he managed to do really well

[ornate dock]

It sound really intersting i will try it because it looks really fun to play

High risk high rewards gameplay

[midnight maple]

maybe try adding something for extra survivability like "each once per turn/activation, block the first instance of damage you would take" but that's up to you

[ancient prawn]

The discounts aren't applied at "check out" in a traditionnal sense... the 20% discount is already factored into the cost of the pledge, as compared to the retail cost (after the campaign). So in short, any prices you see on the campaign are the already discounted prices.

[ornate dock]

I don’t know Maybe i will try this but for the moment he sound balanced enough

[nimble shale]

Sooo….

DRG has board game?

What is it about?

[neat mirage]

same as the video game

[ember ledge]

Beer and Gold
'n

[gleaming dune]

It's a surprisingly faithful recreation of the video game. Shoot bugs, complete objectives, extract. There's some remixing and tweaks of specific mechanics for the format, of course.

[mystic compass]

Alright, thank you

[mystic compass]

#drg-board-game message

[nimble shale]

True

Oh, nice song btw

[mystic compass]

Thank you

[mystic compass]

Unfortunately no beard customization

[warm thunder]

Aside from color, to which you have to paint it, but otherwise true

[mystic compass]

This game is unplayable!

[mystic compass]

Aside from 2 of the characters not really having beards

[royal nacelle]

I customized beards for someone's miniatures during the previous campaign.

And I've seen someone add beards from Warhammer/Blood Bowl Dwarves, which looked really good.

[mystic compass]

I mean, I do have a 3D-printer, but I don't want to bother. I'm just trolling over here

[warm thunder]

I mean if we wanted to get nit-picky, there's far more customization in the board game because you can pick and choose individual coloration for every single part of the dwarves.

[mystic compass]

And If you want to get crafty, there is greenstuff and milliput. But you might have trouble with the inserts then

[nimble shale]

What a shame!

[mystic compass]

The driller honestly looks like a naked mole rat

[ornate dock]

Reset the counter

[mystic compass]

already did

[nimble shale]

Did already. It’s on 0

[ornate dock]

Sorry i didn’t see it

[mystic compass]

[elder lodge]

Hello, looking to try out the board game on TTS. I've got one more friend that wants to play it but we're new to it so if theres anyone looking to teach us

[urban iron]

Yeah i can teach you how it works

Would love to, got time tomorrow?

[upbeat oasis]

I have a horrible confession
I brought drg to pax unplugged and on the ride home goo from above got a little beat up
It's not that bad but I wanted to at least ask in case someone knew how to get the crease out

[royal nacelle]

put "how to get creases out of cardboard" into youtube and watch a few videos. Usually involved a tiny bit of water and ironing, as far as I recall.

[upbeat oasis]

Sounds good I'll check it out

[midnight maple]

Have you tried it?

[ornate dock]

I cannot access my board game yet but once I can play with a few of my friend I will try

[midnight maple]

Alright. I just really want more feedback on the thing I made

[ornate dock]

Îll ping you once I tried it to give you some feedback

Does it has any other special abilities to help teamates ?

[midnight maple]

Alright!

[midnight maple]

Not currently, but if you have any suggestion I'd like to hear it out

It's just that I wanted to base it around the rogue core class and I don't know if they have new traversal tools or reuse ones from classic drg

[ornate dock]

Maybe vampirism or maybe give him the driller arm so he can also help the team

[lime jungle]

You can cut the crease off with scissors

[barren quartz]

Here’s my solution to attach magnets to the miniatures for easier storage/transport

[barren quartz]

This turned out to be a relatively time effective process but matching the exact dimensions of the miniatures is near impossible

[silk sand]

Of the first two expansions, which do people think is better?

[wooden widget]

I think Biome is great for more variety in one shots. But I do enjoy the space rig to have something to look forward to as in continuing a mini campaign

[silk sand]

My adhd brain is going to buy between 0 to 4 expansions at random and I have no idea what it's going to do so I am just gathering as much information as I can before it makes the arbitrary decision

[wooden widget]

I went with biome and rig and quite happy. Played on TTS and didn't find the mini expansions as engaging

The korlok weed one was cool

[silk sand]

Yes I have found that Goo From Above has not brought me 50 AUD of value so I will not be buying further mini expansions despite how tempting the bulk det looks

[silk sand]

If I'm going to spend the money on the expansion it definitely will be so that I can table the game as a centrepiece feature in pick up groups (due to DRG being one of the easiest table-engulfing games to introduce new players to) rather than for it to be played more often in my regular group so more variety for one shots sounds like a plus

[wooden widget]

Sounds like a plan. One plus of space rig is the randomized challenges, beers and modifiers, which makes it a more interesting challenge than vannila

[silk sand]

Are you able to activate those modifiers before the first mission or do you need to collect resources to trigger them?

[wooden widget]

Yeah it's triggered on the first mission and each new mission between runs

[silk sand]

Alright

The new mission types sound honestly really cool

Though they came out in the videogame after I stopped playing

[wooden widget]

True, had fun when doing morkite extraction. Useful to introduce some new challenges

Honestly the core box is kinda lackluster without those expansion(s). Completely playable, but I was looking for that kind variety it brings

[silk sand]

My brain:
• All of the expansions sound good!!!
• I honestly don't need any of them and they'll take up a lot of space and cost a lot

https://tenor.com/view/metronome-gif-17433149157757821754

Ok I think my brain has decided 0.
Before shipping, 85€ is 150 AUD, and I cannot justify dropping that much on what is an expansion to a boardgame that already is a lot of fun when we break it out. Let alone multiple times that for both expansions or more from the newest kickstarter.

That's the cost of a whole new boardgame with all bells and whistles

[rain escarp]

Reasonable brain

I got the deluxe board game plus all but goo from above but the main board game got caught in a warehousing mistake so im yet to have an opinion yet

[silk sand]

Wait so you never got it years ago?

[rain escarp]

I ordered mine from mood while ago

[silk sand]

Oh ok, not the original kickstarter

[rain escarp]

Going on like 3 or 4 months ow

[rain escarp]

Nope I was not in a position then to drop the large amounts of dollerydoos

[silk sand]

When the original arrived I got it and I was like "I am half delighted, but I also half regret getting the deluxe version with all the miniatures"

I've loved the game, and the gameplay pays off having to cart the weapon around everywhere

[rain escarp]

I like having minis if I do decide to learn to paint one day they will atleast look good on display

[silk sand]

But then I backed the Heroes 3 kickstarter at the 4 boxes level and when that arrived I was like "ugh, never again, no more miniatures"

Then Arcs arrived from a kickstarter I had backed 2 years prior and I was like "this is the repurcussions of my actions"

[rain escarp]

You shall be drowned in mini figures

[silk sand]

I did not learn my lesson fully from 40k

Thanks for the recommendations @wooden widget

[wooden widget]

In the case of it takes a lot of space

I've found on Etsy a 3d printable insert

That squashed 3 boxes into one. A bit heavy but lovely for transportation

[silk sand]

I have not purchased a 3d printer for reasons that should now be obvious 🤭

[rain escarp]

The shipping costs for the kicker starter to OZ seem alot nicer than what I paid from mood for all the stuff I got

The current kickstarter

[silk sand]

The shipping is very nice yes

Freight and distribution are very good at making shipping cheap

But that's still causing it to edge too close to 200 AUD for my liking

[rain escarp]

I still paid a hefty sum for what I ordered from mood in shipping

[silk sand]

I would have loved it if the expansions had standee versions

I reckon that would have cut down weight and cost

But the budget audience for expansions is probably very slim

[rain escarp]

Im very tempted to just have everything while I'm in a position of having alot of disposable income before I no longer have that privilege but again I still have not played the boardgame due to shipping losing me it

[silk sand]

I backed Pixel Tactics recently and the base game which was a really good deal only had like 80 backers at like, the $30 level, and the all 7 expansions $100 level had like 500 backers

[rain escarp]

Seems pretty cheap must be electing to not have figures

[silk sand]

It's a card game

[rain escarp]

Ah that makes sense

[silk sand]

I'm just saying that the "buy all expansions" tiers of boardgames are not the "80% of all income", they are actually the "80% of all backers" demographic

[rain escarp]

I suspect the current expansions is majority collectors for the drg boardgame

On Kickstarter.com

Yep that's 4000 backers

[midnight maple]

Vampirism is a neat idea. Maybe just exclude grunts so they wouldn't be health farms.
I feel like it wouldn't be interesting taking a core mechanic of another class and slapping it into a new one. Maybe an ability that lets you swap places with another dwarf/friendly unit (so it could work in solo with bosco) within a certain range would be better as a way to get others out of sticky situations and get yourself into close quarters with enemies without the other player getting in the way

[ornate dock]

Yes I forgot to explain that vampirism would not work on grunt, that swap ability would be pretty cool ngl, maybe exclude downed player so you cannot just téléporte them next to another dwarf

[heady sinew]

Wait does the Board Game have its own weapons and overclocks?

[ornate dock]

Yes but overclocking doesn’t work the same

[heady sinew]

oh?

What are overclock like?

Or what are they?

[royal nacelle]

You pay gold to improve your secondary weapon, gives it bit more ammo and range, damage, or some effect.

[heady sinew]

Ah.

So just... upgrades.

[royal nacelle]

Some of them add effects that change the functionality.

[midnight maple]

Yeah, that sounds fair. I think it would be most balanced with either R3 or R4

R3 to make it a buffed move action, or R4 to give it more versatility in tough situations

[ornate dock]

R4 sound more intersting tbh

If it’s r3 it’s just a movement action away

[ember ledge]

do you have your vampire driller setup / rules summarized somewhere?

[spiral belfry]

The EPC with explosive die gets an AOE overclock, the bulldog freezes enemies, and some weapons get a complete damage type change

[midnight maple]

Primary weapon: "Supernova" energy sword

• R1 2 pickaxe dice (counts as 2 pickaxe actions)
• R3 2 pierce dice, moves you to an empty space (within range) adjacent to the target

Vampirism: killing a non-grunt enemy with a pickaxe attack or with the primary weapon heals you for 1 health

Support tool: R3 swap places with a friendly unit that isn't downed

Important note: this class doesn't hate driller's "ignore pickaxe resistance" ability to keep it more balanced and keep the upgrade that ignores resistances useful

[ornate dock]

Bro got todo boogie woogie

Maybe let him swap other dwarf with other dwarf

Or swap with enemies

[ember ledge]

here team, i deal with the grunts and you can deal with the detonator. continues to swap places with the detonator

[ornate dock]

Even if it isn’t usefull it would be so fun

Swap with a dreadnough

[midnight maple]

I think swapping other players and especially swapping enemies would be too powerful. Instead of swapping places with a downed dwarf to take them to safety, swapping with an enemy that's adjacent to him - has the same problem of making it a low risk, easy revive

[ornate dock]

I didn’t thought about that, yeah you are right

[heady sinew]

Oh now THAT'S interesting.

[midnight maple]

The lok-1 gets 1 extra damage die, but it can target enemies that are far away from each other so it's effectively an extra target

[ember ledge]

i'm impressed with how well thought out their "we are adding the base game as pledge" is. Even catching people who had been directed to their webstore who now might have been missing out. Very cool move

[barren quartz]

Is this the first time they’ve introduced acrylic tokens or were they an add on previously?

[ember ledge]

acrylic tokens had been a thing before. The acrylic tokens in the current campaing had been there from the beginning of it. There was only an issue with one set being wrongly priced. They fixed that and since then it shows as Rival Incursion Acrylic tokens (Fixed)

[barren quartz]

Ah okay, but nobody has received acrylic tokens from a prior campaign?

[royal nacelle]

They've been a thing for 3 years, ever since the first campaign. There's ones for the base game, and each of the two large expansions that came before this campaign

[ember ledge]

the last campaign had some and the first as well. (you can check the last campaigns on kickstarter, if you wanna dive deep)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-the-board-game
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moodpublishing/deep-rock-galactic-space-rig-and-biome-expansions

the collectors edition had them included in both iirc

[barren quartz]

Ooh cool, I just added the acrylic tokens to my pledge for this campaign but I’m curious if people think they were worth it previously

[royal nacelle]

Depends how much you play, I've seen some mention they play enough that wear and tear has started showing up on their cardboard pieces. Others enjoy the feel of plastic rather than cardboard, and then some weirdo purists like myself prefer cardboard.

[barren quartz]

Yeah that makes sense, I guess the player cards are cardboard regardless so there’s gonna be a mismatch with the acrylics

[ember ledge]

i love them 😄

[royal nacelle]

Imagine turning the entire game into acrylic.

[ember ledge]

you had me at imagine 😛

neopren board tiles / pieces on the neopren mat

acrylic pieces

metal 🎲

3D Cavewalls that feature lightning of the biome

[ember ledge]

that might be too heavy. I bet the ones, which we will get in this campaign, will be great

[royal nacelle]

You just made me think "floppy board game" instead of "floppy hammer".. ugh

[ember ledge]

they are not to be too great though. My wallet decided i can't afford the 4x

[ancient prawn]

i picked up all the acrylic tokens for every expansion and basegame so far, and this is going to continue as a trend for these as well. Mainly because I'm going to likely be playing this game with my kid and her cousins, so it's going to be in a potentially dangerous environment when it comes to spills and liquids.

Having had pieces of other boardgames ruined due to liquid damage, i prefer to hedge my bets for longevity of the game as much as I can (thus also the neoprene game mat board, and my nearly rabid infatuation with sleeves)

[barren quartz]

Exactly my thinking, especially after spending what must be $800 on the game at this point 😅 might as well make sure the parts are durable & premium

[ancient prawn]

the cardboard is already very premium feeling... but I just wanted to go the extra mile, you know?

[ember ledge]

also on my imaginary wishlist:
led health counter for bigger units that slips under the base of those units. Small battery that gets charged wireless on a small and simple charging station next to the gamemat. Buttons to add or remove hp. Less(?) realistic alternative: a small screen

I wonder how large the components needed for that would be and if it would be possible to fit them in a reasonably small base

[ember ledge]

The AI generated shopping list has me at around 8-10€ per piece 🤔

[royal nacelle]

You'll need a heap of them what with the new swarm cards spawning bucketloads of creatures all at once 😉

[ember ledge]

we gotta push down the costs ... for now i'm sceptical the AI is anywhere near realistic on what it can do

i really would love to learn how to do this 😄

sadly my knowledge of micro controlers is: don't break off the feet 😄

nothing an AI can't teach i guess

first iteration shopping list was
small 7 segment display / eink display
8-Bit-ATtiny
small battery (because it tells me a capacitor wouldn't last long enough? (I dont trust that though, will have to verify))
small wireless charging IC (device that lets me wireless charge? i have so much of no idea of what i'm doing here :D)
small smd buttons

But yes, there is a boardgame for DRG and i went a little bit offtopic 😛

[royal nacelle]

For health counters I've seen a few different designs of a hex plate that goes under the miniature and has sort of 'shelves' sticking out from it on the sides, with slots for damage cubes.

[ember ledge]

yeah i have seen them as well. great solution that is printable.

but not electronic 👉 👈

[barren quartz]

This would be less tactile (and thus less fun) but it would probably be pretty easy to handle a lot of that with an iPad app or something

[ember ledge]

fair point.

[barren quartz]

For me, the main hindrance to playing the DRG board game was just a matter of storage & unboxing. The gameplay itself is a blast but having all those miniature trays strewn across the table just gets annoying. Or I’d keep everything in the box and have to sort through it every time a less common enemy pops up

In general it’s a game that gets a lot more enjoyable (in my opinion) once the friction is removed & the nice to haves are thrown in (painted miniatures, neoprene mat, etc)

[royal nacelle]

I grab a handful of grunts, and generally one of everything, put them into a box lid, and carry that to the table. If I need to spawn multiples of something I go get them from the other room. Friction gone.

[gleaming dune]

In my ongoing saga of finding sleeves that fit the mini cards while still fitting inside the game box, I reached out to MOOD amd the official answer is... They don't know. The mini cards are custom sized. 🙄

[royal nacelle]

You've tried the ones listed on BoardGameGeek when you click their "find sleeves for me" thingie?

[gleaming dune]

I can't find them in local stores and I'm a bit worried about shelling out for shipping in case they don't actually work

[royal nacelle]

Fair enough

[gleaming dune]

I'm genuinely kinda pissed off.

Not that I know anything about the behind the scenes R&D and manufacturing of a boardgame, but I would ASSUME just picking an existing and widely used(?) size like European or American mini would be way easier for everyone than a custom size requiring custom sleeves

[royal nacelle]

63x88mm is a standard size, and the small cards are 44x63mm. As far as I can tell it's a standard, just not as widely used since they're small cards.

Hence not as much need for sleeves.

At some point large cards become an issue, I've noticed it myself with how much is on the table and how much space you need.

[midnight maple]

Hot take: I dislike using sleeves on cards

I understand wanting to persevere them, but I like the feeling of drawing cards like how I used to in my childhood with games like Sorry and Rat-A-Tat Cat

[ember ledge]

i like the feeling of cards in the hand opposed to the feeling of them sleeved. BUT i'm a scaredy cat

[barren quartz]

Honestly I don’t think this is an especially hot take. It’s just normalized for a lot of serious hobbyists to preserve their collections so they get used to it. I agree with you though. I ordered the custom card sleeves but I may decide it’s not worth it to use them.

[lime jungle]

You can get sleeves with a matte texture which imo feel nicer for larger decks than gloss