drg-board-game

[shell lava]

Looks like something straight out of Nemesis, very cool

[ornate dock]

I gotta say both version looks interesting in their own way

The board game one looks more glyphid in my opinion

[south violet]

Agreed. I feel like because they had more polygons to work with due to rendering not being an issue, they had more ability to convey the similarities that show all the Glyphids are still Glyphids. And bonus, they also don't need to be a readable silhouette from 50 meters away.

The Glyphid menace is already in game, but honestly I don't think I'd noticed it had legs at all before the mini arrived.

[ornate dock]

Yes because it’s a big blue silly triangle

[ornate dock]

I never looked at it this way but now that you mention it it seems obvious

Peak game design

[kindred gale]

Guys, Im painting my gunner and Im looking for reference. I count find anything interesting on internet so Im want to ask for help to any of you who would be so nice to send a photo of their painted gunner. Thanks in advance!

[ornate dock]

I have none of me but a lot from other

Go look on instagram # like drg board game or smth

[ornate dock]

Or look at the sent image in the chat on the researche bar

[rustic breach]

hey yall I have some questions regarding the 2 new expansions if anyone else who has them can help!

[royal nacelle]

sure

[rustic breach]

more than 1 of the missions seem like they cant be built and or aren't functional, but I could be wrong

[royal nacelle]

Yup there are a couple of errors

The rulebooks on Board Game Geek have recently been updated if you want to look there, rather than fixing the missions as you see fit

[rustic breach]

ok I see

Mission 7 of the Biome Expansion cannot be build since the both sides of the Minehead piece are used seperately

[royal nacelle]

Just swap it for a different pit tile.

[rustic breach]

(so a 3-tile pit and the minehead which afaik isn't possible)

ok so this is known about, thats good

[royal nacelle]

As I said, already been fixed

[rustic breach]

the only other one I've found is a mission in the joined-expansion booklet that calls for the mechanics of glyphid cocoons but doesn't place any. I'll check the website as you've said, thank you!

[keen hamlet]

Yep, the size 3 pit was swapped for the size 2, going across.
And the cocoons just swap the acid shrooms

[royal nacelle]

And the 2 tile pit that covers a flare is moved slightly

[keen hamlet]

oh shoot was it? drat need to pull it out to get a better idea then

[royal nacelle]

And now whatever mission it was that said there was a brood nexus but it was an exploder instead, says exploder.

[keen hamlet]

Did they remove the updated Biome book? I can't seem to find it today.

dang it, should have saved it last week

[royal nacelle]

Seems like, yea

[rustic breach]

is that because they'd be working to make more changes?

or do they not like their books up on that site

[keen hamlet]

Nah, the person uploading the books is a Lead for MOOD, so it was put on BGG for corrections.
You might be right on it needing further correction, but they have left old versions on the site til the newest is out, so no clue.

[gilded niche]

@keen hamlet Not sure if this will work...

I downloaded these a while back, so they're not 100% up to date.

Space Rig while I'm here

[keen hamlet]

That is the release one, they had corrected ones on BGG for like...2-3 days, now that one is missing, the rest are still there.

[gilded niche]

Ah, okay. I'm afraid I don't have those.

[uneven bronze]

Got some minis painted and wanted to share. They turned out so good

[south violet]

Damn dude those are fantastic

[uneven bronze]

Ya I’m stoked. The guy who did them nailed it. I’m gonna go visit him and bring up the two new expansions and have him do those too and we’re gonna play all day too, hahah. This game is awesome

[violet musk]

YES

YESSSSS

[violet musk]

ok question

opening it all up still

is there a guide on how to put this back in the best way

[royal nacelle]

Nope, it's an exciting puzzle to figure out

[uneven bronze]

Is that the new expansions ?

I always take pictures of how things are packaged before unpacking

[royal nacelle]

Think it was more a question of putting everything back in the boxes once you remove stuff from the punchout boards etc.

I had to play a bit of tile tetris to figure out how to sensibly fit the Biome tiles, for example. Everything else was pretty smooth

[royal nacelle]

Big boomer

[reef smelt]

I didn't find anything about this in the rulebook, nor the faq page. If at the end of the mission, a dwarf is already in the drop pod, while another dwarf is still outside does the dwarf waiting in the drop pod already gets their turn too? So an event card should be drawn for that dwarf which started his turn inside a drop pod and didn't do any actions?

[royal nacelle]

If you're in the drop pod after the objectives are completed you don't draw event cards. Since it's not written that you don't get a turn you do get a turn, and if you go outside the pod again and end your turn outside you drawn an event card.

If you skip your turn inside the pod you don't draw an event card, since... you don't draw event cards when ending your turn inside the drop pod.

[reef smelt]

Thanks! We ended up making it harder for us the last time then, but not like it made the slightest difference. But will keep this in mind for next time!

[ornate dock]

Damn that’s awesome do you have more pics ?

[gilded niche]

Mission 4 of our custom assignment has been uploaded. That’s the last of these for a while, but hope you enjoy nonetheless.

https://youtu.be/vWaV4oqEHT8

[uneven bronze]

My experience with this game has been making the game way harder than needed 100% of the time lol. I’m working on a spreadsheet to simplify the rules.

[uneven bronze]

I’m working on some better pictures. Once the expansion minis get painted I plan on getting some more pics

[ornate dock]

Okay now

[ornate dock]

Thank you !

[ornate dock]

Ngl that’s one of the best painted spitball infector I’ve ever seen

[uneven bronze]

The guy did amazing. I’m going to see if wants to share his info. Thanks for the feed back I’m doing to send it forward

[uneven bronze]

https://okminipainter.etsy.com/

His Etsy

[south violet]

I found it worked best to split up the big stuff into the different boxes- Board, Books, and hidden caves in the base game, terrain in the biomes, and spacerig and character boards in the space rig. And then anything 1-3 tiles in the compartments. Afterwards I didn't have to work so hard to get it to close again like I did with the base game!

[somber hemlock]

Yeah, the rulebook is probably the weakest part of the game imo. A game as straight forward as DRG really shouldn't need an FAQ as large as it has. I've also been working on some resources to try to simplify things. I'm nearly finished with my consolidated creature sheet that gets all the needed info on one page.

[uneven bronze]

I’d love to see what you put together if you feel like sharing! I completely agree. With how much quality has gone into the board game I’m shocked the rule books are so convoluted.

I’m working on something that explains every component in one place instead of it all being spread out randomly.

[royal nacelle]

A lot of the FAQ is people asking unnecessary questions though.

[somber hemlock]

I would disagree. I think you have a unique perspective, johnno, because you eat sleep and breathe this game. I would guess you have all of the rules memorized by now, so the rulebook doesn't bother you. However, I imagine there's a large portion of people like myself who only play this game maybe once or twice a year in between other games. So there's plenty of time to forget some of the rules, which means you need to reference the rulebook, and the way the rules are structured is horrible for referencing. And then there's several terms and concepts that simply aren't defined which leads to more confusion. So yeah, the rulebook could still use some work to be what I would consider good.

[royal nacelle]

Thta's fine in itself, but the length of the FAQ is no indication of what's in it, or how the rules are written. My point was that you shouldn't judge the rules by the FAQ, when people in the FAQ are asking for stuff that's in the rulebook. Or stuff that isn't in the rulebook because it isn't a rule, the rulebook can't hold what stuff doesn't do, it shouldn't have to be pointed out except in exception cases that something doesn't do something. Prime case for example is Exploders, it shouldn't have to be said that they don't destroy walls or stalagmites, because they don't.

Structure of the rulebook could well be different, but then again there are just as many different views on how it should be structured. I've seen really weird complaints about where stuff should be.

[somber hemlock]

The board game certainly suffers a bit from being based on a video game. Some people may assume that something is supposed to work a certain way because that's how it works in the video game, like exploders destroying terrain. My issue is less with that, though, and more with relevant rules or definitions being absent or not located where you would expect them to be.

[deft eagle]

when did you guys get the message about shipping?

[royal nacelle]

Day before arrival

[deft eagle]

good to know

thanks

[spark nebula]

Slowly getting expansion content done

[royal nacelle]

Dang lookin' hot

[dense heath]

Expansions arrived today! (UK)

[ornate dock]

Heartstone looking hella good

Not to mention the beamers

[ornate dock]

Quick question

What color do you guys prime your minis and why ?

[copper sorrel]

Depends. I have a grey polyurethane primer, but also a lot of colored acrylic primers. So if I want to start with an unified shadow or do the heavy work right from the start, I use them.

I often start with some kind of zenital priming, but with colours instead of the regular black/white gradient.

[south violet]

I always used to do black, but now unless it's terrain I stick with white. Black gives the colors a nice muted tone, and if you're looking to do OSL or Slapchop it serves as a good base. However, doing any pops of color on black is a DRAG. Many many layers to get anything bright. White picks up color on the first layer, stays bright when using bright colors, and can be darkened easily with a wash. Any speed paint or tinting methods almost exclusively require white as a base as well.

I still like black for doing background or earthy tones like walls and rock and mud however

[deft eagle]

Someone make 3d pipes, pump jack and refinery for free https://www.printables.com/en/model/605006-3d-pipes-for-deep-rock-galactic/files

[royal nacelle]

That would be Foxbyte.

[deft eagle]

looks good

thank you @amber moss

[ornate dock]

They are awesome holy cow

[amber moss]

I was so confused with that mention wahahha

But cheers man

[copper sorrel]

btw, small life hack, but if you want to paint yellow, prime magenta/pink, then zenital white. Paint yellow over it.

0 effort yellow

[royal nacelle]

Coincidence, just wrapping up my driller paintjob now.. xD

[rustic breach]

friends and I had an idea to play a larger game of the DRG tabletop game on a large hex mat

measured the pieces and found they're 3.5cm, so idk where Im really going to get a mat like that lol

[royal nacelle]

Get multiple game mats for DRG and stitch them together.

[rustic breach]

at that point, I'll just print off sheets of paper measured to be 35mm

was just wondering if someone had the same experience as me

[royal nacelle]

I've seen people play with the game board combined with the game mat from the first campaign.

Only thing that needs changing is the swarm threat meter really.

Or you can just combine them, ie moving the tracker onto the next board. But the timings get slightly weird.

Does require you to kinda just double the map, double the objectives, spread everything out.

[cloud aurora]

Looks amazing!

[serene hazel]

Am I correct in assuming that if I ordered through backerkit very late (like a week before the notice that they're starting shipping) I will be near the end of the queue? I've never ordered a Kickstarter late before and only found out this even exists a few weeks ago.

[royal nacelle]

Not necessarily, they're sending out orders by what's in the order, so depending on what all you selected your order may be sent out earlier.

[copper sorrel]

Get a roll of paper

Pretty easy to find a black roll big enough for you needs. Then draw dots at regular intervals on imaginary lines before completing the hexagons.

https://www.amazon.com/HAPPYSPORT-Neoprene-Sponge-Aquarium-Non-Adhesive/dp/B0D5BL9HDL/ref=sr_1_41?crid=86HJ9ARDYBLH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.J8nTxtqIemXOu3VnU4GIe0Eb336lNEmA4kWP6HzluPyBZdwvuUQCLuhfNL3uZ-ruK75Unc4-SGbCs20N8ML4ucyvEcfFc_ZTU1Z5SefGoJKfLe_a2IhWrEfBRco7RQEzEq5wz-eCZpzo9Pvy0ZHByTK2CYrJnyWF82dPZpS54GkfTY3TEN0V-E7xnRlxSza8.I4Z6P_hqck2E_Gq9eX_6xsnn7YkXYjWptwrF6Xv8QTw&dib_tag=se&keywords=neoprene+roll&qid=1724193321&sprefix=neopreneroll%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-41

neoprene rolls aren't that expensive either

[royal nacelle]

Cost about the same as the DRG ones, per area. Could just the same just buy extra DRG neoprene mats and cut them up to fit together xD

[copper sorrel]

that's also another way to do it 😄

[royal nacelle]

$45 vs 2x€25

[vernal wren]

I was overly excited and bought 2 base games so I could play multiple of the same dwarf. I usually use the playmat, so I’ll probobly just cut part of the 2 boards to make them line up… but most cannot do that so my advice is sorta useless.

If you’re looking for another idea you can always make some sort of magnetic tiles if you have a 3d printer. But again that’s likely more work than most would want. So not sure how helpful that really is.

[south violet]

This one was a pain in the ass to get the effect right- decided since the Rammer shield looked so much like a mushroom to base it on one- specifically the Indigo Milk Cap. Tried to get that weird leathery spongy texture- what do y'all think?

[kindred gale]

Ok, ss done, now only wait for my rammer and paint it in "inspiration" to this

[neat mirage]

looking good so far

[ornate dock]

How did you get the little hole in the carapace darker than the carapace

Did you paint all dark blue and then white on the top ?

[south violet]

Along those lines yes! White base, blue wash/ink/speed paint dabbed on to the scratches, then a thin grey layer everywhere but the scratches themselves to kind of soften the edges of the blue splotches/serve as a darker undercoat for the highlights. Then layers of very light grey over that in a sort of branching fibrous pattern with more blue showing through in some places, less in others, and finally white veins and highlights

[ornate dock]

The mushroom idea is pretty good, I don’t have the minis yet so I never actually saw that the back of the rammer was mushroom like, I’m litteraly gonna do the same thing

Maybe make it glow

[ornate dock]

Thank you so much for your process ! It looks fire btw

[south violet]

Nice, and thanks! I was originally going to do a glow, but now I'm hesitant to mess up the dark crevices

[ornate dock]

You really are doing amazing with all the expansions minis your heartstone looks awesome too

[ornate dock]

Maybe do a crash test on a printed one if you have a 3D printer

[south violet]

The heart stone's someone else's I'm afraid lol- it does look fantastic though, I'm taking notes as well

In the game the stone is more reflective/gem like; but honestly I really dig the magmatic look... I'll have to try a few things!

[tacit yew]

Just got an email!

Expansions coming on Monday

[uneven bronze]

Looks amazing!!! I love that core. It looks like it’s actually glowing 🤩🤩

[spark nebula]

Yeah I opted not to try that glassy reflective look because I don’t really know where to start for that. I’m not very good at OSL either but it worked out pretty well since that texture is so deep on the heart stone

[spark nebula]

Thanks, contrast paints make smoother transitions much easier.

[uneven bronze]

This game absolutely NEEDS the paint jobs, worth every penny. I played through a couple missions last night and the painted minis just make it so fun.

[lime jungle]

Did anyone else recieve just the Base Game and none of the expansions in their delivery?

[fiery slate]

ROCK AND STONE BROTHERS !!

[viscid field]

This is normal. The Base Game was send out first, then the expansions should be send out by now.

[keen peak]

Mine sadly hasn’t shipped yet it seems and august is almost over, might just be late this time since i got my base game quite early

[royal nacelle]

Mine had made it across Europe before I got the message that it'd arrive the next day. So don't think you can quite know if it's being shipped or not xD

[keen peak]

Yeah just hopping to get it soon so we can implement it in our next time playing

[royal nacelle]

Still, estimates are estimates, considering they originally said september-october I wouldn't consider it late if you get it beginning of september.

[keen peak]

Fair enough

[lime jungle]

Okay, I thought so. I was excited and ready when I heard a package arrived for me and then panicked a little when I saw only a small-ish box at my door

[royal nacelle]

Now just gotta figure out some houserules for it

[south violet]

Something similar to the scout's flares or the vantage point event perhaps? Oh! Allow you to reroll one die on attacks by foes within range X?

Because you saw them coming in time to react

[royal nacelle]

Yeah I've been thinking range 2 rerolls, but costs 2 ammo to deploy.

[south violet]

I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

[kindred gale]

Suggestion: Cost no ammo but 2 actions to place. Any dwarf within 4 tiles of this turret might use 1 free range action per turn

[royal nacelle]

That would be utterly overpowered.

[kindred gale]

than range 2 tiles? :3

[royal nacelle]

No, free actions. Especially with no ammo cost.

[kindred gale]

oki

[royal nacelle]

Maybe defensive rerolls instead of offensive. Staying within Range 3 of it allows you to reroll one creature die per ranged attack.

[ornate dock]

Does the rammer have a mouth ?

Or eyes ?

How does he eat then ?

[royal nacelle]

Ambulatory fungi don't need mouths nor eyes.

The need to introduce pieces of sustenance into a body through an opening in it is rather primitive.

Although if you look under its forward shell you can see some sort of mouthlike opening. Maybe it rams and smushes its targets into a paste, then suckles them up

Sure looks like a mouth

[frank forge]

hello i have been thinking of buying the board game and i was worndering is there a difference between first and second edition

[subtle socket]

probably, else why make a second edition?

[frank forge]

could you tell me what the difference is

[urban iron]

i think first edition has miniatures of all the creatures, second edition only has miniatures for dwarfs

(not 100% sure, someone confirm?)

[scarlet narwhal]

thats the difference between standard edition and deluxe

[urban iron]

oh sorry

[scarlet narwhal]

2nd edition is pretty much text corrections and quality of life changes

[urban iron]

ah okay

[royal nacelle]

2nd edition has A4 rulebooks instead of A5, some rulebook layout differences and clarifications, player aid cards, and separate creature info cards instead of a large creature datasheet. 2nd edition fits better with the newest expansions since they come with creature cards instead of large datasheets, but you can just the same play with 1st edition base game

If you only intend to play the base game then it's down to if you want to wait for a 2nd edition compared to a 1st edition that may be locally/quickly available, and perhaps price if you can find a cheaper 1st edition somewhere where the haven't adjusted the prices recently.
The quick reference cards for 2nd edition are enjoyed by many, but you still need to go into the rulebook for special rules, so if you don't play often enough to remember the rules then the large creature sheet might be just as good to have on hand instead of flipping through the rulebook.

That, and some have found the larger rulebooks cumbersome, so A5 rulebooks might be better in that regard too.

[ornate dock]

He actually looks really cool from this perspective

Remind me of the shadow leviathan from subnautica

[burnt sparrow]

"You're poor"

[ornate dock]

?

[burnt sparrow]

I saw one meme about this game board. Gonna cut it and senbd here hol up

[ornate dock]

No way some people make memes about it

[ornate dock]

Remake with the expansions now

[burnt sparrow]

My country impossible to buy for unfortunately.
But we may ask ppl that keeps both board games.
If there?

[frank forge]

That's a lot of info ty so much so if I'm gonna buy the expansions I should get v2

[royal nacelle]

It'll mesh better with the cards, but isn't a necessity.

[kindred gale]

Cost 1 action. Dwarves within 8 tiles of turret can can throw pickaxe duce twice per action

Wouldnt be too op because even if you have 4 pickaxes then even then theres probably not even that much things to mine around dwarf and can be useful when you get 0 pickaxes at first try. You can re-try it without using another action

[royal nacelle]

What's a scanner got to do with pickaxes? 😒

And it would actually be ridiculously overpowered at times because you'd be able to hit creatures 6 times.. driller's already powerful against certain creatures, now imagine he gets to just roll twice as much

Which also saves immensely on ammo. Would just have the entire team walking up to creatures to pickaxe them

[south violet]

Fun fact! One of the Naedocyte hatchlings on the models has too many legs.

[upbeat terrace]

I wouldn’t know because there’s no event or swarm cards for the Naedocytes and the mission generator app hasn’t been updated for the expansions yet.

…or at all because I don’t know if the creator is still into the game.

[south violet]

The one with one leg open still has the leg in the closed position as well

[south violet]

Yeah the brood Nexus is like that too right? It's there on spawn or not at all? Cause the mission book from the Biome expansions has it there on a number of mission spawns

[upbeat terrace]

Yes

The Brood Nexus does spawn on a hidden tile though. And the mission generator app has it, of course.

[royal nacelle]

The mission generator app is a playermade resource, only available because someone was passionate enough about making an app.

The Naedocyte breeder does spawn from a mission specific event, if memory serves me.

[south violet]

Oh damn that'd suck. Random missions are gonna be harder to do without the app, but at least there's enough missions that you can just draw mission cards for now?

[royal nacelle]

Random missions aren't that hard to do by using the mission book rules.

[royal nacelle]

Funnily enough, doesn't appear to be the case for the version on tabletop simulator, meaning its an error that came at some later point in adjusting the models.

Nothing a blade and some putty can't fix xD

[royal nacelle]

Mixed Mission #3.

[ornate dock]

Random mission are actually pretty fun to make

[upbeat terrace]

I know. I just don’t know if they are still passionate.

[royal nacelle]

Sorry but what're you on about?

[upbeat terrace]

People get tired of things and move on to other projects, hobbies, or start modding other things. It’s entirely possible that the creator of the Mission Terminal has since moved on and is no longer interested in development of the resource.

[royal nacelle]

He hasn't, he's said on Kickstarter and BGG that he's planning to put in the expansions. But it's a hobby, and a passion project, you can't expect it to be done instantly.

And it's a lot of work as well.

[upbeat terrace]

Of course not. I’m just not on BGG.

So I didn’t have that information

[royal nacelle]

Even if he's moved on we've gotten a free app out of the kindness of their heart. And even if the app gets pulled we've gotten to enjoy it as long as we did.

You're free to make your own app, program, HTML page, whatever have you, and share with the community if you want. Or even just refine the random mission generation in the mission book to suit your needs.

[cloud aurora]

Yup I saw him commenting on kickstarter, he mentioned he will work on it. I think he actually got the expansions already

Pretty cool app nonetheless

[royal nacelle]

Yeah, altho it did make some odd layouts at the start at least, not sure if all that's been fixed. Still oughta do a double check if you're using it to set up missions

Absolutely a great tool for a quick setup without having to put effort in yourself

[cloud aurora]

Huh didn't see that. We still haven't completed the whole game yet

Another guy made a soundboard app that we like to have on the background. That's also one I hope gets updated one day xD

[royal nacelle]

I just recall a few instances of maps they posted that had a tunnel exit locked away behind stalagmites so creatures could spawn but not move out (other than flying creatures). Spitballer tucked away in a corner where it wouldn't really do anything.. that sorta stuff

Hard stuff to make checks for in a random map generator I reckon, so yeah I'd suggest a sanity check before starting xD

[cloud aurora]

A haha yeah, can't really blame him for that, hard to think of and program all possibilities

[reef meteor]

isnt this board game like $200

[royal nacelle]

No it's $85

[bitter hinge]

pretty sure the board game is $7,500

[kindred gale]

I got it for around 783

[warm breach]

Board game costs a human sacrifice unfortunately

preferably sacrifice a billionaire

[kindred gale]

Bro, ur telling me rn, how in the world, did you make that ommoran heartstone shell look SO FREAKING EPIC

[south violet]

HAH. Done with the little bastards.

Now, I have the strangest craving for pop tarts... 😂

Still need to touch up the base, but I am extremely done with those tiny little spikes

[kindred gale]

For some reason they look silly to me c:

[south violet]

I feel like that's also a reference but I'm not getting it if it is lol

[kindred gale]

Not any reference, they just look silly to me for some reason :p

[south violet]

Fair enough. The in game hatchlings are a little more muted, but you also might be thinking of the shockers which have a much clearer color scheme

[kindred gale]

If I have brought sll files, I cant send them to anyone or share online. But if I dont own 3d printer and I want someone to print them for me, is it okay to send them to a local 3d printing bisuness or something like this for them to print them for me?

[south violet]

Like that's so muddy to me. But yeah, that should be fine- you're not using the STLs for commercial purposes or sharing them for mass duplication so that should be fine.

[ornate dock]

These little buggers looks really cool, I love how you chooses to go for the violet variant instead of the blue

[south violet]

The blue is what you think of first right? I did the same thing, but those don't actually hatch from the breeder's eggs! Shockingly the shockers are an entirely different species 🤣

[tacit yew]

im not 100% sure but i think its ok

because otherwise they would just be unusable for 90% of people

[ornate dock]

I thought they were just more mature form of the blue one

[south violet]

Hm- looks like the lore is inconsistent, but implies they may eventually grow into the blue ones.

[spark nebula]

Contrast paints is about it. Just used a really pastel yellow for the cracks and then worked my way from light to dark on the stone leaving some of the lighter stuff on the edge each time.

[royal nacelle]

How spoiled with options is your Engineer?

[somber hemlock]

Just think of all the war crimes you could commit with those babies

[royal nacelle]

I just played a game of DRG:S where I got heaps of extra tracked sentries.. maybe I just need to print like 5-6 more.

[south violet]

WIP of the Naedocyte Breeder

[ornate dock]

Looks really good !

How did you put the Shadows ?

[south violet]

I actually started with a wash of army painter purple tone all over; straight over the white to give it that pastel violet to dark purple you see on the tendrils - then I just dry brushed on the brighter blues over the top to get that bluish purple sort of ombre

[ornate dock]

So you went dark to light ?

[south violet]

Yup!

[violet musk]

This will work for now

[royal nacelle]

xD

[tacit yew]

the naedocyte floaters also exist

so my theory is that the purple shockers come out of the egg, grow into blue shockers, then grow into floaters, then into breeders

[ornate dock]

Breeder look nothing like shockers so they may come from something different

[south violet]

The base needs another coat, but I think I'm happy with the breeder over all.

And with that, I've gotten one each of the Biome monsters, save for the dreadnought. Think I'll hit the last few terrain bits before I take on that monster tho lol

[royal nacelle]

No softening of the tentacles I see.. xD Nicely painted

[ornate dock]

Ayo that’s peak art

Awesome

Really I love the color choice and how you implemented them

Plus the paint is really well thined out so we can see all the details

[tacit yew]

maybe they go into a cocoon like the dreadnaught

[kindred gale]

Did... anyone... in poland... got... any... email?

Its like about a week to an end of august and still didnt got any info

And I saw twice that someone sends an email they got here and I get the same email like delayed 2 weeks

[royal nacelle]

Just gotta wait is all.

[kindred gale]

Well that expains stuff

[royal nacelle]

Estimates are estimates. They can't know beforehand that it's going to be exactly 30 days or something. They estimate, and try to reach that timeline.

[dawn ibex]

polska gurom

(i am required to say this at any mention of Poland)

[kindred gale]

Polska gurom indeed 🇵🇱💪

[dawn ibex]

does anyone know if the sentry gun got nerfed in the 2nd edition? if i'm reading it correctly, it looks like it now only fires on enemies when they first enter the range of the gun, and not every time they activate while within range

[royal nacelle]

It didn't, no.

[dawn ibex]

huh, maybe it's just poorly worded then

[royal nacelle]

It was shortened and ended up a bit unclear yeah. But if you read the whole section then it would contradict itself if it doesn't fire when creatures activate, since it says it fires at the same time as creatures activate, allowing them to still hit it even if it kills them.

That whole piece supercedes the "once in range" bit, basically.

[dawn ibex]

i assumed that was for when things move and attack in the same turn

like rammers

well they resist bullet i think

[royal nacelle]

Nope, always.

[dawn ibex]

sweet

also i love that flare gun is now usable

[royal nacelle]

Always has been

[dawn ibex]

i have never seen anyone use it lol

but now it can be a free action

[royal nacelle]

Was FAQ/Errataed in the first FAQ video during the previous campaign.

[dawn ibex]

oh

didn't know

[royal nacelle]

So.. two years ago almost 😛

or video might actually be older, I'd have to look

[dawn ibex]

i haven't really watched any content about the game tbh

just going off of the rules as written

[dawn ibex]

i was in your country less than a week ago ^_^

in piernik Toruń

[kindred gale]

Then you know whats good >:D

[royal nacelle]

This is what happens when you leave HACK-C down in the caves for too long. Spoiler is Arachnophobia warning

[dawn ibex]

ok but can i still pet him

[royal nacelle]

Might lose some fingers

[dawn ibex]

eh, a little red sugar will patch that up

[crisp echo]

Reminds me of glados in a weird way

[vale spindle]

So cursed lol

Glad I wont see one of those on my boardgame, think I'd cry lol

[royal nacelle]

Genuinely tempted to actually make a physical model now xD

DRG LoTR crossover diorama...

[turbid grove]

I didn't know there was a board game till I saw it mentioned here

Anyways. Good morning server. Rock and Stone

[turbid grove]

Lol

[south violet]

Working on the cryobulb right now, but it's proving tricky to get the effect I want. Think I might try painting the bulb part with a little turquoise and seeing if that keeps it from being so flat.

Either that or try to do some highlights on the spikes

[waxen hazel]

Looks like what happens to toys at that kids house in Toy Story

[main fulcrum]

They all showed up way sooner than expected I’m so excited to get to playing and painting everything 😊

[copper sorrel]

Can't wait to see more painted games

[main fulcrum]

I will try and get some painted in the next couple weeks to show off. Just need to prime them

[royal nacelle]

Any chance you'll be going through the boxes soon? Hotly discussed topic of the back of some of the new cards, been wondering if they changed the graphics for the 2nd ed base game cards as well

[main fulcrum]

I can crack them open later after my show and post some photos of the backs. Is it just card backs from the main box you want to see or do you want me to do the expansions too?

[royal nacelle]

well the expansions have the cards that are supposedly 'wrong', so I have those myself. Would love pics of the base game cards

But if you wanna throw them together for comparison feel free, but shouldn't be necessary.

[main fulcrum]

Actually I have a few moments before I start just gimme a minute to crack some stuff open

[royal nacelle]

Lovely 🙂

[copper sorrel]

give them a soapy bath first. I had issue with primer not sticking to the minis.

[royal nacelle]

Meanwhile I painted several minis without a bath and without primer xD

[copper sorrel]

I guess it depends heavily when the mini was injected. Got unlucky and there were grease residue in the mould.

[royal nacelle]

aye

[main fulcrum]

I will have to take a better look at the minis but thank you for the tip. I use primer since that’s how I get my warhammer stuff started.

Top deck is main box, second is the space rig expansion and last deck is the biome expansion cards

[royal nacelle]

Thanks a heap. Mystery solved xD

[main fulcrum]

No problem now to tidy up boxes before I stream don’t want a messy room 😅

My experience painting warhammer space dwarves has prepared me for this game 😋

[royal nacelle]

Space Marines all the way

So.. part of the mystery with the card backs is solved, not telling if it's a factory issue or an intentional change. Suppose the factory could've used the wrong files, and then QA didn't notice it because they were looking at all new 2nd ed stuff, so no discrepancy between them. Or the wrong files were sent, and same result with QA. Ah well, see if MOOD say anything about it in the near future.

[main fulcrum]

I have no idea what the difference would be between the old ones and new ones 😅 I have an imperial fist army and necrons already painted up. Votann was my 3rd and just slowly growing that one. Also got into AOS too now 😅 I have no life.

[royal nacelle]

First edition cards have the same hex bolts you see in the corners of the swarm cards on the rock & stone and throwable cards as well. And the hex bolts on the 2nd ed swarm cards are more centered in those corner graphics than the 1st ed ones were

So if a 1st ed player pays attention to the top of the decks they can tell if an expansion card is coming ,basically.

[main fulcrum]

Ohhh Neato well I never got to get into the 1st edition sadly but I luckily got in on the pre order through game found right before it closed

[royal nacelle]

Thanks for the help with the cards, it's been bugging many people for a while. I'll go spread the news on Kickstarter 😄

[somber hemlock]

@main fulcrum if you wouldn't mind sharing a picture of the player boards as well whenever you get a chance I'd be very grateful. I've been curious as to what exactly was changed on the 2nd edition boards.

[south violet]

Think I'm finally satisfied with the cryobulb

[royal nacelle]

ooh, the darker tone on the base works really well.

I may have to yoinks, once I get to painting mine

[somber hemlock]

They look very cool (I'll see myself out)

[visual shore]

Hello everyone I just recieved my expansions today and I noticed that they came with extra copies of the emerging event cards (Slasher, spitballer and grunt) what are these for?

Are they just better explained versions of the previous cards or are they extra copies to add to the deck?

[somber hemlock]

They have some extra clarifications on them and are intended to replace the ones in the 1st edition game. That said, the slasher card is missing the text that tells you attack with it, which is likely an error, so it's up to you if you want to use the old or the new one.

[visual shore]

oh ok thanks

[tacit yew]

i dont think its an error

it seems like it makes more sense

a slasher spawning out of nowhere and attacking you seems kind of unfair

[south violet]

And that's the volcanic geyser! Next up, crystals!

[royal nacelle]

Reaction attacks are specifically for interrupting attacks, so there would be no reaction attack if it wasn't intended to attack you. That's already been errataed for the Slasher in the mission specific event of mission 9 or whatever it was. It's exactly as fair as a grunt popping up and attacking you on a Haz 5 mission with warnings that give it extra dice and damage. A grunt can put out 3 damage at a higher statistical chance than a slasher doing 2 damage?

[tacit yew]

but slashers can stun, and in a lot of cases stunning is worse than taking damage

at the same time grabbers also knock down so idk

[royal nacelle]

There are events that stun or knock over, I see nothing unfair with a slasher popping up and attacking when you're given reaction shots. The entire point of reaction shots is to give the players a chance to kill the creature before it attacks.

[south violet]

Some events are great, some suck glyphidballs. There's no balance they have to stick to to be fair- and so in this case glyphidballs it is.

[tacit yew]

well then why did they remove the text that makes the slasher attack?

[royal nacelle]

Because it's a mistake.

[tacit yew]

isnt it a second edition card though

what error did they fix

[royal nacelle]

They've rewritten/extended the text and possibly it's even just on the next line of text that falls off the text box.

well read the cards and you'll see.

[tacit yew]

ok

[royal nacelle]

They clarified that it shouldn't be placed if not possible, or somesuch, don't recall the exact wording.

[royal nacelle]

Got me curious, are you painting just one of each, or all of them?

[south violet]

At the moment, going through and painting one of each. Figure that'll let me have an example to show what it's supposed to look like until I can go through and paint all of them. Bonus; if a scenarios just has the one Stingtail and one Spitter on the board at a time then the only one needed is the painted ones.

[royal nacelle]

Oh yeah I saw you write that earlier, I meant the biome specific hazards/pieces

I mostly do one creature at a time as well (until very recently at least when I just wanted to get some of em done), but been painting multiple biome thingies when I've done so

[south violet]

Ah gotcha. Yeah I did end up painting two of the explosive plants, but the rest of them I decided to just do one for now so that I could say I'd painted one of everything in the box

[royal nacelle]

hehe fair enough

[south violet]

I am a little leery of the glowing crystals though, trying to get that translucent look is a struggle for me. 😅

[royal nacelle]

I might save em for later and consider some clear coloured resin for printing some new ones

probably save them for last anyway since I prefer the other biomes ahead of Azure Weald

[south violet]

Oh that's not a bad idea! I'll have to keep that in mind if it's not working out.

[south violet]

Though now that I look at it, it looks like those are meant to work like the glowing pillars with the Tron lines; rather than clear crystals. Hm. Eh, I'll try some different things and see what works.

[somber hemlock]

I'm considering getting some color shift paints for the crystals. Seems like it would be an easy way to get a cool translucent/shimmering effect.

[royal nacelle]

All those fancy paints are beyond me, ie haven't even begun to look into them. Please do post pics if you go that route (already pondering glow in the dark paints due to Gunner Main)

[south violet]

I will say after seeing what a difference the disgusting slime made on my green glow effects, I went ahead and bought some florescent colors:

And they made a huge difference in anything I wanted to look like it was glowing.

[royal nacelle]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into those

[south violet]

I struggled a lot with my fire or explosion stuff looking muddy or washed out before, so I'm really liking the brightness it adds.

[royal nacelle]

Just noticed and realized something (and checked my own cards). The new secondary weapons don't have the hex bolts either, but the old ones do. So guessing the bolts are on a separate layer or something and were forgotten about entirely for most of the 2nd ed cards.

[main fulcrum]

Glow effects would be good I was going to do my own using some contrasts and special technical paints. That might save me time using glow effects over my way of doing it 😅

[royal nacelle]

Rocjaw Cypher is halfway convincing me to look into contrast to begin with, don't you start too

[main fulcrum]

@somber hemlock you still want the board pictures? I would assume like game board?

[royal nacelle]

Think he meant the player board, as in characters.. driller, scout, etc

[main fulcrum]

You should see my paints I can do all sorts of nifty stuff

[royal nacelle]

some of them got text changes

[main fulcrum]

Ohh okay one moment

[somber hemlock]

yeah, what johnno said

[main fulcrum]

I will do that then nap time

[royal nacelle]

chuckle I was about to ask about some other pics 😛

[main fulcrum]

Hit me up I will get them to you a little later Johnno

[somber hemlock]

Thank you! My curiosity is finally satiated.

[royal nacelle]

well I got curious about the secondary weapon cards. You showed R&S cards, and swarm cards, and throwables I think. But only secondary from the expansions. I think that I've sussed out that the secondaries in 2nd base game also lack the hex bolts, but would love pics there too.

[royal nacelle]

Light-footed doesn't say flare, altho engi platforms says 3 platforms... don't recall if that's a change. I'd have to pull out my cards. You wanna do the honours? xD

And gunner shield should say empty space, I think, eh

Driller's drill attack says close combat, think that's his change

[somber hemlock]

Driller: Flaming ground specifies that it can only be used twice per turn now, and "movement" was changed to "drill move." Also, drill movement was changed slightly to say "end your movement."

Scout: all of his special rules were reworded slightly. They used to be...
Light-footed: One free ranged attack or throw after movement.
Grappling hook: Move over any pit or creatures.
Flare Shot: 1 action to place a flare token, unlimited range.

[royal nacelle]

Quite sure flaming ground used to be at most twice per turn, before as well.

[somber hemlock]

It said that in the rulebook, yeah, but my 1st edition player board doesn't mention it.

[royal nacelle]

oh right, sorry

Got mixed up

[somber hemlock]

Engineer: The T was added to his AoE diagram for the grenade launcher, and the platform gun (called Platform Shot on the old board) now specifies that you can only place up to 3, instead of one or more. Also the Sentry Gun was called the Sentry Gun Turret on the old board.

[royal nacelle]

I hadn't seen it on the player board til you pointed it out now

The elusive HE T

3 platforms I feel is the important one.

[somber hemlock]

Gunner: no notable changes. Both of his special rules add "spend" at the beginning like some of the ones on the other boards, but that's really it as far as I can see.

[royal nacelle]

I was about to say how gunner's zipline should say 1 to 3 zipline tokens, then realized ... he has max 3 xD

except the loophole of using both cardboard and plastic tokens, I suppose...

[somber hemlock]

Most importantly, all of the hex bolts seems to be in the same locations as on the old boards

[royal nacelle]

haha

It's kinda hilarious that this is the new issue.. used to be 4 lacking plastic sleeves... now it's missing graphical hex bolts.

We joke, but it sure is a sore spot for some on Kickstarter.

🚨 HOT NEWS! 🚨 2nd ed upgrade kits now available: https://moodpublishing.com/collections/deep-rock-galactic

[ornate dock]

No way thank you

12 is pretty cheap I expected them to price it higher

[kindred gale]

ahh, 12$ kit 80$ taxes

[tired pike]

wait so it comes with the goo bomber expansion?

[limber crow]

Clearly it doesn't, since the Goo From Above expansion costs twice as much. It's saying it comes with the updates to the base game and Goo From Above expansion, which is to say it includes Creature Cards for Goo From Above as well as the base game

[autumn grove]

So im confused on how the modifier tracker works

Does it keep track of how many missions you complete or is it a difficulty setting?

[south violet]

The 1-2-3-4 is the missions left in the assignment, with how many modifiers you apply on each mission

And you can do assignments on haz 1 or haz 5, up to you

So the first one, draw a rock and stone and apply a yellow mod. The second, a red mod, and 4 has double ted

[steep pulsar]

The one in the middle with the large cube is for the mission you're doing, and shows what modifiers to use. First mission uses one yellow; second uses one red; third is one of each; fourth is two red.

[autumn grove]

I see

I just got it today so i wanted to see how everything worked

[steep pulsar]

That's all covered in the Space Rig expansion rules. If you just want to play a basic mission, you can skip using it for now.

[autumn grove]

Yeah im going over all of the rules

I mightve just glazed over something by accident

I might have just discovered an error on the spacerig book

The bottom 2 peices are duplicated

Page 45

[tacit yew]

interesting

i dont think ive seen that one before

[autumn grove]

I just top decked the mission terminal

Told me to go here

And i noticed it

[keen hamlet]

That is not a rock n stone on the first mission of the track.
It is saying you always get a free beer bonus on the first mission of the assignment

[south violet]

Oh yeah; that.

Probably going to keep experimenting with this one but it'll do the job for now.

[autumn grove]

Okay in this situation how would a korlok sprout even come back, the space where its supposed to be respawned is on the driller, but hes blocking the spawn, so the only nearby spawn locations are the pipe, or healing pod. But theyre occupied. Would the sprout still spawn elsewhere?

[autumn grove]

Another question, if i get one of the liquid morkite to reach the refinery, do i still have to roll for damage or its just done

[fiery panther]

Hey question, when would be the time to get worried about my expansions not arriving due to whatever reason? I live in the Netherlands and kinda expected to be somewhat early, just like the base game a couple months back, but so far, nothing

[supple mango]

They're shipping for europe throughout August so still got a week left, I haven't gotten mine either. (Belgium)
Might even be September since August is earlier than first anticipated.

[royal nacelle]

Yes, closest free space on the Korlok tile to begin with, I'd personally put it outside the Korlok tile if necessary as not to just game the system.

[royal nacelle]

Two weeks after MOOD announces that they've completed deliveries.

We'll likely get an update next week that says things are slightly behind schedule, and to be patient for another few weeks.

[ornate dock]

Oh hell yeah

[twilit dune]

Question, the bulk detonator card doesn't state activate all creatures. But the rules state on a swarm card spawn the creatures and then activate all creatures. Is this a mistake that this is the only card that doesn't mention activating?

[royal nacelle]

Swarms always activate all creatures. My guess is that they initially thought to have it as an event card but changed it to a swarm card, and forgot to add the text. So yes it's likely a mistake that the text isn't there, but creatures still activate since it's a swarm.

[golden rune]

Do you think it can dig through walls? Like the Opressor.

[gilded niche]

The dreadnaught and oppressor are the only ones who dig out walls from what I’ve experienced.

[royal nacelle]

No, it can't.

[golden rune]

It can in the game though. Doesn't help it doesn't have a good description card

[royal nacelle]

Do praetorians leave poison clouds, like they do in the video game? Do bulks move as fast as grunts in the video game?

Not everything is a 1 to 1 translation

[somber hemlock]

Is there somewhere that says it needs to be on the korlok board? I've only seen rules that say to place it as close as possible to the spawn point, which means it could be on any board. In the picture above, the closest space would be the one that's next to the refinery. Unless it can spawn on pit spaces, which is something I didn't think of until just now. Can the korlok spawn on pit spaces due to creatures being able to enter them?

[mystic compass]

Been looking at the contents of my expensions, bought the collectors edition. Does anybody know whether sleeves should be included at that tier, since they were for the basegame back in 2022? Because I can't find any.

[royal nacelle]

Sleeves aren't included.

[royal nacelle]

Nope it's my interpretation when comparing to the Ommoran rules. You can play whatever way you like, I'd personally treat the Korlok cave as its origin. And sure you could use pit spaces, just be consistent I reckon. Pick a way you prefer.

[mystic compass]

Bummers, was afraid so

[royal nacelle]

The pledges listed what was included, card sleeves were an add-on you could add to your pledge.

[mystic compass]

Now I gotta actually think how to distribute the sleeves I got with the first shipping of the game

[mystic compass]

Pretty positive that they weren't an add-on

[royal nacelle]

Sleeves were included in the previous Kickstarter's Collector's edition, but not in this one's. They were an add-on this time around. If you assumed you'd get sleeves that's kinda on you, since they're not listed in the descriptions of the pledges, and were added as add-ons in the survey.

Expansions Kickstarter update #7 mentions the sleeves being added as addons in the pledge manager.

[mystic compass]

Should probably have added them as a add-on on kickstarter as well, so you don't need to skim through 23 updates to find it

[royal nacelle]

But they were, that's what the pledge manager is for. You couldn't get the Bulk Detonator or Korlok either except in the Pledge Manager, and on Backerkit later.

Or maybe I'm misremembering. But either way they were an add-on.

[hushed marsh]

You could get em in the (newcomers) collectors choice plegde. But for other tiers you could get em in the Pledge Manager, yeah.

[royal nacelle]

Yeah I'm mistaken, the bulk and korlok were in the optionals list, but sleeves weren't.

[hushed marsh]

but @mystic compass you could really get any pack of standard size card sleeves on amazon or at your local game shop, they fit perfectly

[royal nacelle]

BGG also has a thread about which sleeves people have tried for the smaller cards

[proven nest]

Any bag recommendations for carrying all these lovely boxes to game night?

[ornate dock]

65 liter box

[south violet]

Large tarp

[somber hemlock]

I have the premium bag from Allplay (formally Board Game Tables) and I really like it. It's pretty much just the right size to fit the deluxe base game and all of the expansion boxes snugly inside.

[inner lance]

Will a creature finish it's entire move before the engineers turret shoots it, or will the turret shoot as soon as it's within range, even if it has spaces left to move?

[royal nacelle]

As soon as in range, and then the creature continues if it doesn't get killed.

[inner lance]

Thanks

[ebon flicker]

Drop pod

[copper sorrel]

A mule would be helpful

[mystic compass]

I know, the issue is that I want some similar to the ones I got in the first box, when it comes to texture and fit

[royal nacelle]

You can still get them on Backerkit

[mystic compass]

I'll check my storage, I have a few sleeves from my brief time collecting TCGs

[somber hemlock]

I just had a realization. The Warden's new "can only damage it first if it's closest" rule makes a lot more sense for weapons like the Breach Cutter, Coil Gun, or Springloaded Ripper. I wonder if that's mainly what they had in mind when they wrote that one.

[royal nacelle]

Those are effectively AoE weapons, so applies for AoE reasoning.

[ornate dock]

What is this new rule ?

[somber hemlock]

"When dealing damage to multiple creatures at the same time, including the Warden, you may damage the Warden first, as long
as it is not further away from you than the other targets."

[south violet]

AOE as well- if the grenade kills the warden, then the other creatures are no longer protected

[somber hemlock]

Yeah, there was some discussion on BGG about how it seemed a little unintuitive that the warden would need to be closest to you in order to damage it first for AoE weapons when the blast essentially "originates" from the T space. That's why I was mentioning that it made more sense for the "AoE" weapons like the Breach Cutter.

[vale spindle]

Can also confirm, a 65 Litre Really Useful Boxes seems to fit all current expansions and the deluxe base game in nicely and protects it all. I know its not a 'bag' but it works. Otherwise, getting a similar sized travel bag might work.

Heres a couple pictures showing it all fits

[hushed lodge]

I use a bigass duffel bag that just barely can't zip shut.

[somber hemlock]

Here's how everything fits in the Allplay bag I mentioned. It's pretty snug, but it zips up just fine, and you've got a little bit of extra room above the mini expansions for something like the memorial hall box I imagine.

[steady tartan]

So now I got it too - I love it, and I'm sad I have seen it so late and missed all Kickstarter benefits, also for the expansions.

And now I have to get into figure painting 👀

[tulip lotus]

I forgot to add the extra card sleeves to my pledge, does anybody know what kind of card sleeves drg used? If there's a noticeable difference between brands, I'd prefer to get something similar to the ones drg sent

[royal nacelle]

You can still get them on Backerkit, although shipping might cost more, even so they cost lot more elsewhere so something to consider. Last campaign someone stated that they're these: Quiver Time 200 Apollo Standard Clear Card Sleeves - Ultra Transparent Trading Card Protector Sleeves
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093G2PK82?th=1

And backerkit for good measure: https://drg-expansions.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders

[tulip lotus]

Thank you very much, I really appreciate that :D

[royal nacelle]

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[steady tartan]

Aww that's adorable! Nice 👀

[tired pike]

your dwarf minis can now play the board game in missions

[somber hemlock]

ᴿᵒᶜᵏ ᵃⁿᵈ ˢᵗᵒⁿᵉᵎ

[hushed lodge]

My deep rock set in a however many liter whatever brand duffel bag.

If the duffel bag was just a tiny bit higher I would be able to zip it completely but as it is the outer edge of the biome box sticks out and cannot be zipped.

[winter spindle]

Is the board game worth getting? Just curious

[south violet]

Given the people you're asking, that's going to get a fairly biased answer, but if you enjoy dungeon crawlers and coop games and deep rock galactic, then there's a good chance you'll quite enjoy this. While expensive, the deluxe versions do come with quite a lot of high quality miniatures- so if you like/intend to paint them it'll be good value when compared with Warhammer miniature prices. Finally, the game has very good replayability, scaling with the amount of extras you get for it.

Whether that's worth it to you for the price it's at, only you can decide; but obviously we liked it enough to get it for ourselves and I don't think any of us regrets it.

Also, I'm really liking the direction this dreadnought is going

Still lots to do, but I'm getting an idea of what the final product is going to be and I'm very excited.

[ornate dock]

WOW

ngl that’s the first one I see painted yet

But damn

It look excellent

The claws and mouth part looks really really good

What brand of paint to you use btw ?

I want to start painting my minis but the acrylic I use are for painting and does not stick really well to minis

[south violet]

A mix of reaper, Vallejo, and army painter. What are you using, and do you prime your minis first?

[ornate dock]

I prime them first but the paint is made for painting and not minis

Forgot the name and don’t have it on hands en

Rn

It give decent result but it’s really hard for it to stick to the minis and the color goes weird on it sometimes

I only have one exemple

This grunt I made about two months ago

[south violet]

No worries. Also recently I've picked up a set of Speed Paints (Or Contrast Paints), which is what I used for the bone spikes there. As much as I like them though, I wouldn't pick them up until you've got all the basics covered as they function as a dye that you have to apply to a fully white mini- each successive coat only darkens the color, and can't be used to fix mistakes with further layers

[ornate dock]

Yeah I’ll rather stick to normal paint even if that sound interesting

[south violet]

Oh he does look very good tho

[ornate dock]

Thank you !

[south violet]

What do you mean when you say has trouble applying? Like what's it do instead of sticking?

[ornate dock]

It’s like painting with butter

I dunno if you get what I mean

But yeah applying is really hard

[south violet]

The liquid slides off the mini without leaving a mark?

[ornate dock]

No color get on or too much and the paint isn’t thined

[ornate dock]

No it stay but there is absolutely no color

I think I need more pigmented paint

But I dunno what brand to start with

[south violet]

Reaper or army painter are my suggestions - they both have good starter kits with 10ish paints and a guide on the basic methods to apply them for different effects

[ornate dock]

Thank you I’ll look into it and try it on some war hammer minis before doing it on the drg one

Because I have honestly zero experience in painting minis

[south violet]

Advice I would give when starting off:

• Get some white spray primer, matte varnish, and some black wash/tone in addition to the basic paints.
• Prime your minis enough that they change to a mostly solid color but not so much it starts to smooth out the details
• Thin your paints with water enough that it doesn't completley hide the color of what you paint it over (IE if you have a black spot and a white spot, you can still see the contrast after applying paint) but not so much that it gets watery and runny, pooling in cracks and stuff.
• Basecoat with a medium darkish shade of whatever color it's supposed to be. Mud brown, tanned skin, shady evergreen...
• Don't worry about super fine details yet- belt buckles, trim, eyes, ect. Just paint them the same as the rest of the face/shirt/belt.
• Wait until dry (15 minutes in most cases is plenty) then apply wash with gusto. Should be enough it pools in the crevices but not so much it hides the details and pools on flat surfaces.
• Once dry, take a brighter shade and either layer or drybrush-
• Layer smooth spots on upper side of limbs and whatnot with thin coats, applying each coat over a smaller area so it gets brighter and brighter towards the center/raised area.
• Drybrush textured areas by taking a short stiff dry brush, dipping it in unthinned paint, then gently wiping it back and forth on a paper towel until it almost completely stops leaving paint. After that, rapidly and firmly brush back and forth over texture, and the raised edges will catch the little bits of paint.
• Now go back in and very carefully do the details with mostly unthinned paint, so that you don't need to apply several coats in the same spots
• Once you're happy with it, hit it with matte varnish. One or two coats will remove excess shininess and protect the mini from wear and tear

And last but not least:
Do it badly. Do a mediocre job, do it sloppily, just get the paint on the miniatures until you can tell what they are even if they don't look very professional. If you put off painting until you feel you're good enough, you'll never make any progress. But if you do a bad job, you can see all the issues: "that spot isn't bright enough" "the leather bled onto the skin here" "that looks too flat"

It's already messed up, now you can fix it! Go in and apply another layer, and another, and another until you like what you see. You can always fix mistakes, but you have to let yourself make them first.

[ornate dock]

Thank you a lot for all thoses advices, can’t wait to get home and paint

I’ll show you the result when I can

But thank you for real that was really usefull to me

[steady tartan]

I also have zero experience with painting figures.
I guess I will start with some separate figures to practice the painting in general, so that if I mess up something, I don't mess up a "good grunt" - does that make sense?

[royal nacelle]

I always recommend getting some cheapo green army men or something. Whatever toy figurines you can get your hands on, unless you wanna go down the route of trying to grab cheap minis off ebay or something

[copper sorrel]

Don't dread painting a "good" figure, you can always bath them in isopropyl alcohol to remove the paint and start anew.

[steady tartan]

That's good to hear, that takes of a lot! :D Thanks

[copper sorrel]

No problem 🙂

I would recommend keeping them tho. You will be able to see your evolution.

[steady tartan]

I'll have a look into it - I also need some colors first, I yet have to dig into the topic

[copper sorrel]

Grab a starter box and mix the colors you don't have. You will buy more paint as time goes.

No one needs 200+ paints to start having fun

[steady tartan]

That's true - do you have some recommendations about the brand?

[copper sorrel]

Vallejo, army painter 2.0, pro acryl

Can't vouch for other brands because I haven't tested them or I don't think they are oriented for beginners.

[steady tartan]

I'll look into them, thanks!

[copper sorrel]

Don't hesitate to ask any question you have. There's no dumb question, only stupid answers 🙂

[steady tartan]

First have to look into budget, maybe one or two tutorials and the most important thing: time

[cloud aurora]

Hey guys, for anyone who has the expansions, one question

They arrived, hurray!

Weren't these supposed to be recessed? They are not for me

[south violet]

I thought they were too, but they aren't for me either, did the Kickstarter say they were or did we just assume?

Yeah the pictures aren't recessed on the Kickstarter, I guess we assumed since the player boards were that quality these would be too. Not the end of the world, but a little disappointing

[cloud aurora]

Yeah I thought they were but my memory was incorrect it seems

I swear on a trailer they were though. But whatever, it would be nice though

[royal nacelle]

They weren't. Easy assumption to make but they've never been depicted as dual layer.

[cloud aurora]

Yup I actually took a look at the teaser trailer lol

[cloud aurora]

It's true that they haven't. My bad. It's fine though

Looking forward to playing!

[royal nacelle]

Make yer own 😉

[cloud aurora]

Oh I'm jealous now

3d printed or?

[royal nacelle]

Lasercut wood with plastic backing

Could print nicer ones tho

Made the drilldozer too

[copper sorrel]

buy a second game, cut holes from the drilldozer board, glue the two board together. Boom problem solved

[royal nacelle]

Pretty quick design for 3d printing.

[cloud aurora]

Oh that sounds quite complex

Nice one though

And for anyone wondering, I received no email or any notice from DHL, apart from today's message that I have a delivery. So if you have none there is still a chance it's coming

[ornate dock]

Arr you in Europe.

?*

[cloud aurora]

Yup

[ornate dock]

So it arrived like this unannounced ?

[cloud aurora]

@ornate dock Yes, the only notice I received was an SMS from DHL about 3 hours before delivery today. It was the same with the base game as well for me last year

[ornate dock]

Okay thank you, I was curious, so maybe mine are already in their way

[royal nacelle]

Or you may have to wait a few more weeks.

Considering a few of their comments on Kickstarter I wouldn't be surprised if an update is posted saying deliveries will stretch into September.

[ornate dock]

Delulu is the solulu

[ornate dock]

Maybe we’ll get expansions

Maybe

[tired pike]

I’ve been considering painting my minis, does anyone have a recommended painting kit? Is there an easy way to remove paint from the figures?

[tired pike]

and that removes all paint without damaging the minis?

[copper sorrel]

Absolutely 🙂

It's safe for every kind of plastic, metal, resin.

Although if you use lacquer paints, it won't remove it

But for acrylics, no issue.

[stiff rivet]

MOOD please have pity with my money

[steep pulsar]

This is really the best painting advice, IMO, and too often goes unstated. Painting is a skill (or several, really) and it takes time and effort to develop. You should practice and experiment, and that means that sometimes it won't work out like you hoped. And that's ok!
Don't fall into the trap of comparing your attempts with something you saw on Instagram. No matter how it turns out, there will always be things you could do differently or better - and that's part of the enjoyment.

Learn to enjoy the process, not just the results.

[hushed lodge]

Actually, an easy and excellent model to dip your toes into learning CAD.

[supple mango]

I thought about painting my minis (despite never painting before), until I looked up how much the paints costs.
Not anytime soon 🥲

why must the creatues of hoxxes be so colourful

[royal nacelle]

You can get pretty far with a handful of paints, and mixing your own

[copper sorrel]

Something like that will cover all your needs for months

[supple mango]

That could work. Looks like these are all base colours, would I also need, no sure what it's called, some "shading" paints? like what you put on after you've done the base colours, to darken the recesses of the mini, so it doesn't look too flat.

A wash?

[royal nacelle]

Agrax Earthshade from Citadel is a good allround one

[copper sorrel]

You don't need washes. You can create any wash with the color + water

they are mostly a loss of money imho

[supple mango]

Perfect, that's like the one I DO have (Got a set from my sister once, which has it)

[royal nacelle]

I use that one as an allrounder, for darker shading I thin down black to act as a wash.

[tired pike]

looks just right
Link?

[copper sorrel]

Try Vallejo website or any hobby store in your area

[supple mango]

I just ordered a paint set 😤
Should be here wednesday
Wonder if it will arrive before the expansions 🤔

[lunar bluff]

what? There's a board game for DRG?! I just started playing on Steam, but I'll have to check this out and maybe add it to my growing collection!

[royal nacelle]

Yup

[rancid junco]

baby!

[wanton token]

yup, its pretty good too

[tired pike]

just ordered some paints, gonna grab some brushes from my hobby store
It’s time to make these things drip

[quasi ravine]

Are they shipping them out based on order-queue? And do they send out an email letting you know the package has shipped/fulfilled?

[royal nacelle]

Orders are being shipped depending on their content. And they do try to send an email but it may well arrive after your package, since they have to do some of them manually (depends which warehouse is fulfilling your order)

[quasi ravine]

I've already had 2 dreams about unboxing my expansions. I am awaiting them with high anticipatiom

[livid venture]

I keep checking around, but can't figure it out, are the expansions actually out yet, or were they just for kick starters until they're finalised?

[urban iron]

rival expansion could be pretty cool

[copper sorrel]

Loving the Jumbo figures. 600% scale boardgame is the way to play.

[steady tartan]

As far as I understand they are out

You can order them

[royal nacelle]

Get them here: https://drg-expansions.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders

They're "out" as in they're being delivered to those who've ordered them

[livid venture]

thanks

[tame tapir]

Reset the count

[lunar bluff]

What do you mean?

[steady tartan]

hahaha :D

[neat mirage]

we're getting better at this, been a while since the last reset !

[heady sinew]

GOD-

[lime jungle]

Question about the Cryon Cannon: The Rulebook says that as a free action you can use the Flake Storm ability. I assume that it still costs ammo to use, but does the description mean you can only use it ONCE per turn?

[royal nacelle]

Rules clearly state that all shooting actions cost ammo. You can take as many free actions as you want per turn.

[lime jungle]

Given that there's only 4 frozen tokens in a set, are you still able to freeze more than 4 enemies at a time? Or are tokens just swapped from the board?

Much like for Engineers platforms nd Gunners Ziplines

[royal nacelle]

You can freeze as many as you like.

Ziplines, platforms, flares, etc are limited due to them being player owned objects. Freezing, stun, web etc are effect states, and you can have as many as necessary of those. Just make your own markers if need be, or remember which are affected.

[lime jungle]

Makes sense cool cool

I'm combining my 1st edition tokens to my 2nd edition Base Game

Just making sure I'm not adding too many of one token that may break any rules

[royal nacelle]

Shield, flames, flares, platforms, ziplines, and the throwable tokens are limited.

Conditions like stun, freeze, web, are not. They're limited in tokens but not number of effects that can be applied

[lime jungle]

How about weapon upgrades? Wouldn't having two of the same upgrade in a gun be an issue?

[royal nacelle]

Those too are limited

[lime jungle]

Cool cool thanks 👍

[hushed lodge]

I have the organizers drafted on printables but right after publishing I saw one of the models is messed up so I will have to fix it when I come home tomorrow, kinda annoyed.

[ornate dock]

What are contrasts paint and when do you actually uses them ?

[royal nacelle]

They're thin flowing paints that give a light coat on raised surfaces while flowing into recesses, creating a contrast between the highs and lows (lights and darks). You can use them exclusively really if you want, or you can use them as a base to then paint on top of. Just check youtube for videos I reckon

[south violet]

Both of these photos were done with contrast paints- the solid purple on one, and the flesh and black on the other. One coat, applied liberally over white primer

They're good for getting the base color onto a model, and you can go back and add more detail after. They aren't as good for large smooth surfaces however:

The spitballer there looks a little blotchy for my taste. And you can't correct mistakes by adding another coat like you can with standard paint, as it only tints it, not covers it.

They're a good addition for getting lots of minis painted quick, but not what I'd buy just starting out

[ornate dock]

okay thank you a lot for the tips

i think i'll stay with base paint for now but they look usefull for showing details so i'll see

there is no way to make some using normal paint ? or am I forced to buy them for every color i'm interested in ?

[royal nacelle]

You can buy 'contrast medium', which is a flow aid.

And mix that with your paints

[ornate dock]

that sound really intersting

[toxic ore]

You can fix mistake by going with white / grey paint over the mistakes.

Shit my expansion arrived. Need to finish the minis of the base game 😅

[royal nacelle]

Don't remind me 😛

[toxic ore]

You can always mix colors to have a highlight and a shadow color.
As a beginner you can take one dark wash. Read a little or watch videos. I think major techniques that are easy and effective can be: (maybe wash), dry brushing and stippling that are good for these "creatures"

[royal nacelle]

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[south violet]

Agreed. Speed paint/contrast paint basically gives the same effect you'd get from doing basecoat, wash, dry brush/edge highlight

[prime junco]

just painted the spitballer from the board game. Im kinda new to painting minis but I think it turned out pretty good

[copper sorrel]

I really like what you've done with it

[prime junco]

Thanks ❤️

[scarlet narwhal]

its very shiny, looks cool

[prime junco]

Im trying to go for a Bloody and Dirty look on all of the minis to really add this grim "cavey" look but also show that those guys are no joke to fight

[prime junco]

thank u <33

[ornate dock]

Okay I mean I still didn’t buy anything but that’s gonna help me

Probably gonna paint some during this week

[coral turtle]

just got the shipment email

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[warm breach]

I've got the expansions, just been busy with moving so I haven't had any time or space to play them

hopefully once I move I'll be able to get some games with the expansions in

[south violet]

I am loving where this is going. Gotta clean up the legs and hit a few other spots, but overall this paint job is exactly what I wanted.

[royal nacelle]

Looks good, fits magma core very nicely

[tacit yew]

Does anybody know how heavy the expansions are?

[ornate dock]

That’s an odly specific question

[tacit yew]

im just asking because the shipping email says its 13 pounds which seems a little bit light to me

the base game was 10 pounds

[ornate dock]

I have no idea sorry, I don’t got them yet

[tacit yew]

👍

[somber hemlock]

Dang this is looking good. The blending on the tips of the spikes is particularly nice.

[hushed lodge]

Space Rig and Biome expansion organizers are up.
https://www.printables.com/model/987327-space-rig-and-biomes-expansions-organizers-deep-ro

[south violet]

Y'know, it'd be fun to do the math and print out a correct scale version of the dwarves- they're what, twice the size they should be compared to the Grunts? Just to put the pint sized figures on the table in front of the oppressor or dreadnought and be like, damn y'all are in trouble.

[south violet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/qx6zow/in_case_anyone_was_wondering/

This is the only thing I've been able to find that even guesses at the sizes

[ornate dock]

I mean the oppressor and dreadnough still dwarfs them

[south violet]

Badum tis.

[ornate dock]

?

[royal nacelle]

The dwarfs pun.

Dwarves being dwarfed.

[ornate dock]

Oh my bad didn’t do it on purpose

[tacit yew]

lol

[warm cargo]

I got korlok, bulk, biome, and space rig, plus an extra dice set. I think that's it and the shipping label says 18 Lbs. Don't know how useful that is for your math, but most of that is probably in the Space Rig and Biome Expansions.

Oh yeah, also plastic tokens for those ...

Kind of deconstructed it, so getting exact weights isn't really possible, but I could see 4-5 pounds in the stuff outside the two big expansions.

[tacit yew]

well thats weird

ive seen people report that they werent sent the space rig expansion

so maybe that happened to me

[royal nacelle]

Mine said 6.3kg which is bit over 13 lbs. Not sure why you're obsessing over it instead of just waiting to get it.

Absolutely nothing you can do about it until you get it.

[tacit yew]

ok

[royal nacelle]

Snapped some new pics, figured I'd share

[supple mango]

Do you also homebrew some rules for these new minis?

[royal nacelle]

Yeah they're kinda in the works. I haven't sat down to play with them yet but have a rough idea of some rules.

The mission object minis just use the rules from the mission they're in really, so just the sentries needing bit of tweaking.

[lime jungle]

Clean 👌

How do you make your prints so smooth? Just a whole lot of sanding and patience?

[royal nacelle]

These are resin prints

Rarely have to sand them. Might have some tiny spots where the print lines are visible, but usually very minor.

[limber crow]

The trick is to concentrate real hard and then will them into existence like that. Oh, and be a wizard, of course. Which is what Johnno is

[lime jungle]

Damn didn't even know there was such a benefit with resin over plastic prints

[tired pike]

3d printers are just magical conjuring devices

[limber crow]

Yeah, but they're DnD Wild Magic that surge every time you use them. Roll a d100 and use the Surge table to find out the results

[steep pulsar]

Looking good!
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were procrastinating painting those base game minis again 😉

[royal nacelle]

I just painted a webspitter, exploder, and slasher actually... just.. not in the original scale 😛

[south violet]

I do love the grunt in the process of clawing it's way out of the ground. To scream at you.

[royal nacelle]

It's a stingtail. Stingtail Nest, on Biome mission 13

[south violet]

Ah! That makes sense.

[south violet]

Rough measurement of the the figure heights:
Grunt: .5 in
Spitter: 1 in
Exploder: 1.5
Dwarf: 2 in
Praetorian: 2 in
Dreadnought 2.5 in

Bugs were measured from roughly the base of the middle leg to the highest part of their body, with the exception of the dreadnought which has some intense spikes. Him I measured one of the front claws point to spike, which should be about the right height to estimate scale.

Based on the size comparison made, I'd say that if you scaled the dwarf and common bugs (Spitter, exploder, ect) down by half, everything should line up pretty correctly. An interesting thought!

[steep pulsar]

Most of the bugs are in "close enough" scale with each other, although a lot of the bigger ones are a bit undersized.
Printing the dwarfs at about 65-75% puts them in typical ~28-32mm miniature scale, and at that size, the bugs also look "close enough" to them.

[steep pulsar]

I will absolutely not admit to putting basecoats on the whole Escort mission set instead of the last 5 models from the first KS. 😜

[lime jungle]

(WIP) Organizing cards, dice and tokens in their own boxes and drawers, all of which are from 'Gamegenic'.

I sealed the Creature and Player Aid cards in a hard case so they're more "token-y" and distinguishable from the rest of the deck. All cards are double sleeved with one-sided cards in 'Dragon Shield: Clear Mattes', and double-sided (Secondary Weapon) cards in 'Ultimate Guard: Katanas'. I found these sleeves just small enough to fit perfectly in the secondary slot on the Character Board.

Cards are stored in their own categorized boxes which I can adjust to stand. The red box is for Grenades and the black boxes are for the game board stacks (Event, Swarm, R'n'S, Resupply). I used a spare card of each category, out of my old game set, as a label.

The set of drawers, although too big to fit in the large box, were conveniently colored for each class. I used it to store all of the character tokens to save time setting up. They all include Primary Weapons, starting health and ammo, and other tokens specific to the class. So far I've only got two sets of dice, but later will have a set of dice for each drawer.

I got a set of green dice to replace the enemy health cubes provided in the game, and pink dice to indicate Warden protection. I found the dice helped in keeping the board a bit cleaner and easier to manage this way.

I still need to organize spare health cubes, minerals, ammo, and other tokens, which I've currently stored in the little black bag from the set. I'm also waiting on the expansions, so there will be even more things to organize 🥲

I know this is not the most money efficient nor space saving solution to store the little bits and pieces of the game. Although in my personal opinion, and through a bit of usage, I've found this to be very satisfyingly easy to find what I need and also pack everything up after a game.

[royal nacelle]

Certainly looks neat and organized.

The card hard cases look really sweet

[reef smelt]

I think I may have found a funny exploit if you were to strictly follow the rules.
So, the overclocked Zhukov specifically says "Don't spend ammo if both roll blanks."
If I were to slap 1-2 upgrades on it which gives you an extra damage die roll after the initial attack roll and only use it as the bonus action after movement due to the Scout's Lightfooted passive, I could technically achieve a semi-free action AND free ammo attack. Given that I were to roll the Zhukov's base roll all blanks and the additional dice hits.
Obviously it's a very situational and doesn't seem intended at all, so I probably won't be exploiting it, but thought I'd share for the shits and giggles anyway.

[royal nacelle]

Considering how lenient bonus dice are on other things I'd allow it, mainly because it's a 11% chance or whatever of triggering, after overclocking and finding upgrades. Considering how rarely I personally run Zhukovs I certainly wouldn't mind considering it a tiny buff to the weapon, to make it more attractive.

[steady tartan]

That's awesome, I just found the ones for the base game. I also love the damage holder, thank you!

[south violet]

Yeah scaling up the bigger models would also work, but I mostly chose scaling down because if you scale up the big bugs they wouldn't fit on the board. Also if you scaled the Grunts up to the size of the Spitter, it'd end up being just as much reprinting anyway.

With scaling down, doing 50% in the dwarves still leaves the Grunts a little undersized, half way between a grunt and a swarmer, (Not the worst thing since they basically got combined by the boardgame, but 75% for the other bugs might be better) but would put the bigger models in exactly the right spot while remaining playable.

Also the whole reason I mentioned the idea in the first place was mostly because I went "it'd be funny to see a correct scale dwarf in front of the dreadnought I just painted." Everything else lining up was just bonus 😅

[steady tartan]

It really looks great! Which card sleeves do you use?

[lime jungle]

I used 'Dragon Shield: Perfect Fit Clears' on every card as an inner sleeve.

The one-sided cards have 'Dragon Shield: Clear Mattes' as an outer sleeve, which gives it a more textured back for better grip. The Secondary Weapons have 'Ultimate Guard: Katanas', which are clear and gloss on both sides to match, and are just a tiny bit shorter than the 'Dragon Shield' sleeves. This helps the card sit nicely in the secondary slot on the character board.

I used 'Gamegenic: Slide Card Cases' for the token cards, which only have an inner sleeve. These are also interchangeable with the boxes.

[royal nacelle]

I mean, I joke... but at the same time.. the more I think about it the more I want it...

[copper sorrel]

accidentally sneeze, lose half of the minis to the void.

[toxic ore]

You snooze, you lose

[stuck marsh]

make a metal base and all pieces can be magnetic

like the old school fold and go travel editions of classic games. chess with each piece being magnetic

had backgammon and a cluedo

[lime jungle]

Little baby dwarves fighting grunt-sized swarmers 🤏

[marble wren]

Can a dwarf take damage if they are in the drop pod at the end of the game?

Ah saw page 14

[tacit yew]

[winged turtle]

finally unboxed my expansions. I have to say I am very impressed with the box art and packaging in general.

[reef smelt]

Are the new weapons, throwables, R&S cards and such supposed to be tied to a specific expansion they came with or was it just for simplicity's sake to include in one of the two expansions and they are meant to be part of the base game box?

[royal nacelle]

They had to be part of one of the expansions as they couldn't just come loose on their own (consider how they'd be distributed in retail for example). Intent is to use them alongside everything, they're meant to be part of the normal setup so that you can choose them even for the base game. What box you put them is up to you.

[reef smelt]

I was wondering, cuz the event and R&S cards are actually marked for which expansion they belong to. Despite the effects do not indicate any expansion specific behaviour (for a swarm card I'd understand, as only the expansion would be having the minis they spawn)
On that note, I'll be needing to do some minor reorganization in the base box, as the cards with sleeves are likely going to be an issue as a lot of new ones are moving there now

[royal nacelle]

It's quite normal for games to mark their expansion cards, no matter if those cards have specific effects for stuff. It's to identify cards as well if you want to "reset" down to the base game.

[lime jungle]

One teeny tiny detail I noticed when sleeving my deck: The 2nd edition cards are missing corner rivets compared with the 1st edition

Top: Old
Bottom : New

[royal nacelle]

Quite old topic by now xD MOOD have stated they've been looking into it and will hopefully be able to say something in their update next week.

[lime jungle]

Oh right I've been living under a rock 😅

[royal nacelle]

The new secondary weapons also are missing bolts, on both sides, so from what I can tell the bolts are a separate graphic that was forgotten during design.

[reef smelt]

I also just caught this prior to seeing your message 😅

[steady tartan]

Do you know by chance how many you needed for the whole game? Do you have the expansions?
I just own the base game - but expanding it is planned, and I would like to buy the sleeves for the whole game :)
Thanks!

[reef smelt]

You can check it on BGG easily under the "Sleeve It" button. It shows the dimensions of cards and the quantities.

(And that's for most boardgames, not just DRG)

[mellow oak]

Literally unplayable! 😆

[royal nacelle]

You joke but a few people on Kickstarter have gotten a bee in their bonnet over this.

And they actually are arguing that it's unplayable/the cards are unusable xD

[mellow oak]

Full refunds all around, terrible quality control

[royal nacelle]

again, you'd be surprised...

we'll see what MOOD says next week

[copper sorrel]

Just erase the rivets on the base game cards and done.

[steady tartan]

Ah nice, thanks a lot!

[limber crow]

They should sell a $45 package of rivet stickers for everyone who misses the rivets

[livid venture]

That is good idea

[reef smelt]

Just put a sticker on each card's corners so you won't see which one has and hasn't got bolts 😂

[rigid walrus]

Without you guys I wouldnt even have noticed the difference on the new cards

But sadly, the different colored background of the Korlok Map tile... I noticed immediately

[royal nacelle]

Korlok box even says colour variations may occur xD

Personally I will just be using the base game hidden cave tiles, and pick one to substitute in the Korlok cave for

[rigid walrus]

I dont care about replacements for the cards, but if they would offer a replacement for the korlok tile.. I wouldnt say no to that ^^

[reef smelt]

Oh no, I didn't even notice that. Tho I didn't put them side by side yet. Will check when I can.

[rigid walrus]

Maybe your color variation is better - my background is a light brown

[charred robin]

Has anyone figured out a seamless way to incorporate elements of the space rig expansion into a deep dive? I understand why they are seperate atm but it’s a bit of a bummer for groups who love mega deep dives to not be able to use the new upgrades or progression

I’m thinking something like abandoned gear comes with a ransom upgrade or something

[royal nacelle]

You can pick and choose missions for Deep Dives.. just pick missions from the spacerig expansion while using the Deep Dive rules.

They're not at all separate at the moment.

The expansions are meant to be played with the base game, and with eachother. So mix everything together and just play. You can make your own missions even instead of just using prebuilt ones from the mission books.

[charred robin]

Im aware of that, I’m talking about the space rig rewards and progression

[royal nacelle]

You still can, the Spacerig specifically states you can use the upgrades for freestanding missions.

[charred robin]

Those are playing individual missions though. There’s nothing stated about how it interacts with deep dives

And you pick those in advanced, I’m looking for something more seamless

[royal nacelle]

Right, and Deep Dives are built up of individual missions, is it not? You could even use the assignment reward track and challenges while doing a deep dive, and simply at the end keep going with the upgrades you have (or even reset the track and pick up new ones to trade for), but would suggest keeping the double warnings to keep balance.

Well you can make up anything you like. What would feel seamless to you?

[charred robin]

How would challenges work? Would they still reset every mission

[royal nacelle]

The big difference is how assignments reset, and how deep dives reset. To make it seamless you'd have to figure out the balance.

Yeah I'd reset challanges each mission, and once you run out just reshuffle.

[charred robin]

Ok

I think that could work well

I think the final concern is that Space rig gear upgrades and beers are only acquired upon returning from a mission

Gear is easy to work around, but not sure about the beer

[royal nacelle]

shrug you can just as well make up any headcanon about how the upgrades are aquired, like being dropped by a pod next to the drop pod.

[charred robin]

lol yeah

[royal nacelle]

You'd obviously have to make a beer supply pod miniature...

[charred robin]

An absolute must …

[lunar bluff]

I just ordered the 2nd edition standard game from Mood Publishing! Where should I look for card sleeves, and what sizes do I need? Also what are some other must-haves for the standard edition?

Also, how much shipping time should I expect for NA (Midwest USA)?

[royal nacelle]

Anywhere, 63x88mm, you'll need bit over 100 so get 200.

[charred robin]

Well thank you for helping me think through this. I think im figuring out the rest. I’m gonna test different ways to bridge the gap between deep dive and assignment resets soon

[royal nacelle]

A handful of weeks I'd guesstimate. Depending on how deliveries for the Kickstarter pledges are going and if it's the same warehouse that's handling them it could be 3-5 weeks.

Not sure how orders for Standard Edition are handled frankly.

[reef smelt]

I just didn't compare them side by side. Tho if I recall correctly, mine might be a more green-ish tone.

[steady tartan]

@lunar bluff Fivr sent how he sleeved his cards yesterday and I found the advice great - maybe it helps you too

[reef smelt]

Did anyone else think that the Bulk Detonator mini expansion is rather adorable with its teeny-tiny box, teeny-tiny tray covered by a teeny-tiny see-through top? The very same enemy type that's causing total chaos and panic amongst greenbeards when it makes an appearance. 😅

[tacit yew]

[steady tartan]

How do you handle exploding exploders with stalagmites and walls?
Do you roll the mineral die? Or do you just remove them?

[royal nacelle]

Exploders don't destroy walls or stalagmites. The Bulk Detonator destroys adjacent walls and stalagmites, minerals in walls drop to the ground and stalagmites are just removed, no rolls.

[split cairn]

How can i get these??

[royal nacelle]

The creatures use the board game's STLs, with the bases removed in Blender. So you could buy the STLs and print them (or have someone print them for you). The dwarves are custom, I'm available for commissions if you'd like some made.

[split cairn]

etsy?

[royal nacelle]

No?

[tired pike]

Johnno made them himself I think

[split cairn]

I was asking if he was available on etsy

[royal nacelle]

I don't have an etsy shop (yet?) since the stuff I've mainly made are custom one-offs that I'm not allowed to sell in bulk

[karmic creek]

Ah Yes, johnno inc. Nice

[south violet]

At last. It is finished.

[lime jungle]

You can buy sleeves from their store and they'll send you enough for single sleeving both base game and expansion cards. I recommend getting your own for better quality and better protection by double sleeving.

[lime jungle]

It should say how many cards are in the game on the back of the box or in the rulebook. The 2nd edition has 129 and the 1st edition has 115. I don't have the expansions quite yet.

A box of sleeves usually come with 100, but I've heard 'Dragon Shields' come with a couple extra to make up for any pre-damaged sleeves

[ornate dock]

Epic

Just bought the paint btw

Gonna start posting my minis soon

[lime jungle]

What did you go for?

[ornate dock]

Probably gonna paint the grunts first

[lime jungle]

I started with grunts too. Removing mould lines are a pain so far

[steep pulsar]

Removing mold lines is the worst part. It literally takes me less time to paint a grunt than to prep it first.

[hollow socket]

I received my big expansion box today. I guess I know what I will be playing this weekend.

[thorn sandal]

How many mission types are there in the Deluxe 2nd edition?

I want to order it but I just wanted a heads up to have more knowledge about it

[royal nacelle]

5

Mining Expedition, Egg Hunt, Drone Retrieval, Elimination (kill praetorian version), Point Extraction.

[thorn sandal]

Thank you!

[royal nacelle]

Biome expansion adds Dreadnought Elimination and Salvage Operation, while Spacerig adds On-site Refining, Escort Duty, and Underground Deposits.

[thorn sandal]

Nice to know, I’ll probably get them in the future

[steady ferry]

Heyo, I found you. :))

[royal nacelle]

Yay!

[steady ferry]

So I like my dwarves to have the big full beards, and I do that for all four roles. 😮 and i know that the gunner is beardless in the board game

[royal nacelle]

Driller is even more beardless, Gunner is at least depicted with a stubble xD

[steady ferry]

yeah, i wanted a beard for the driller too, lol

i want them to have as majestic of a beard as the scout

[royal nacelle]

Sure thing, let's chat details in private message 🙂

[steady ferry]

okay 😄

[inner sable]

My expansion finally delivered this weekend

We are super struggling with the first mission though.

Between Hypothermia and naedocyte stunning us, we literally couldn't do a thing

Anybody else run into this problem?

[royal nacelle]

Hypothermia is a bit rough at times, I try to keep routes clear to oasis pits. But yeah sometimes you have to sacrifice actions just to get over to them to get warmed up. And yup, naedocyte hatchlings can be nasty, primary target plus try to kill any breeder ASAP.

Getting the hatchlings down one health so they only attack with one die helps a lot too.

[urban iron]

Nice! Im gonna get it when they are available for purchase again in October

[inner sable]

Yeah we kept rolling ! and could do literally nothing

I feel like stun should probably be reduce actions by 1 now since there are so many more ways to lose actions

[royal nacelle]

Hypothermia and stun is kinda akin to being knocked down and stunned at the same time. You could houserule it of course. Personally I've found it exceedingly rare. Hypothermia is kinda luck of the draw on event cards, and then you need to ASAP get to an Oasis, most times it's not that bad.

[inner sable]

Okay could be our string of luck on our first play. I'll try it again

[royal nacelle]

Yeah all of the biome stuff and new enemies take some getting used to. I had to figure out just how to deal with stingtails and rammers as well, and just how dangerous it is to leave a naedocyte breeder up and alive.

[fiery panther]

Just asking if this message still holds true

Short yes or no works Johnno

[royal nacelle]

Well what it meant was that even after the warehouse sends your package it may take a week or two to arrive. So assuming MOOD do announce that every single package is on its way you'd consider that it can take a bit to arrive. Right now however MOOD are about to post a new update next week, which'll likely say that they're running behind and deliveries are going to take a few more weeks

[fiery panther]

Gotcha

Thank you!

[royal nacelle]

And if you've ordered off Backerkit and aren't part of the original Kickstarter campaign pledgers, it could take a tiny bit longer than that, since they're prioritizing backers, as far as I know.

If push comes to shove you can email [e-mail] and ask about your order.

[ionic sorrel]

Has there ever been a ruling on whether engineers 3 platforms from a single platform gun action need to be shot adjacently similar to how dice are assigned?

[royal nacelle]

Since it's specified that it's not a weapon, and there's no mention of them having to be adjacent, I've never played it as them having to be adjacent. Just line of sight that counts.

[ionic sorrel]

Got it, makes sense to me as well, thanks as always

[steep pulsar]

I definitely recommend the two big expansions. All the smaller ones are nice too, but personally the space rig and biomes really bridge the gap to make it feel like the "full game" of DRG to me.

[dawn ibex]

What barley bulb do? We'wve searched it in rulebook, but there was nothing about it

[tired pike]

It lets you draw a rock and stone card

[dawn ibex]

thx

[tired pike]

it’s in the rulebook

[dawn ibex]

Oh, it was in core rules, not space rig

im dumb lol

[royal nacelle]

Yup the green pickup tokens are in the Spacerig, others are in the core game

[ionic sorrel]

Know it's in the rules somewhere but is it one rock and stone card total or one each for the oppressor kills

[royal nacelle]

One total, to the player delivering the killing blow

[supple mango]

what base colour primer have y'all used when painting? just a plain white? Never really painted before

[royal nacelle]

You mean primer? Black or Desert Yellow, because those were what I had laying around.

[supple mango]

yea thats what I meant, although you might have a spray can for it. I'll just have to paint it on with a brush. Is there anything to take into consideration when deciding what colour to use?

[copper sorrel]

Black gives you more desaturated colors and might be harder to cover with some paints (i.e. yellow), white will gives you brighter popping colors. It really depends what you prefer 🙂

[south violet]

Next up: Korlok sprouts.

[tacit yew]

was it just me who thought killing the dreadnaught gave 2 rock and stone cards?

[kindred gale]

Is there a safe way to slighty expand the gaps in mimiatures black plastic thing? Most of them are losse but some are really tight like pretorians and ballspitters. Everytine I put miniatures inside Im scared the paint can scratch so I want to make these gaps more wide and loose. Any ideas?

[hexed urchin]

Just got my expansions! Hard to decide what ones I want to paint first, but looking forward to painting them all.

[lime jungle]

You could replace the plastic trays with foam and make cut-outs for your miniatures

[reef smelt]

It's the Korlok weed that gives you multiple rewards afair

[steep pulsar]

There's no way to just expand them that I know of. In fact, I saw on a different forum where someone tried to use a heat gun on a similar tray (for a different game), and it ended up shrinking back almost into its original flat sheet.
So don't try that.😉

But I do agree on the issue you describe, and my Gunner already has paint rubbed off. I've been hoping someone would design a good 3d print replacement, but all I've found are token trays. I'll probably make some new foam inserts like FIVR suggested.

[toxic ore]

You can push on the insert slightly so it sits less harsh on the minis. I just ordered https://www.feldherr.com/300-mm-x-300-mm-x-40-mm-rasterschaumstoff-wuerfelschaum-feinraster-10-mm/a-57715
Trying to put all minis in one box and making the paint long lasting.

[urban iron]

Can i still get the STL files on the Kickstarter website? Because i missed it but want to 3d print the miniatures. It says pre-order though so i want to know if i have to wait or if i can get them now

[royal nacelle]

Backerkit says pre-order because that's what it originally was, and they can't edit the site I think. Yes you can still get the STLs, you can purchase them and then email [e-mail] for quicker order handling (but still probably takes a few days I would guess).

[urban iron]

Alright, thank you

[ionic sorrel]

Alright another fun one, if a stunned enemy activates next to a turret does that still count as a chance for the turret to shoot

Although I guess revised rulebook indicates it only shoots once when something comes in range?

I'm gonna rule it that a sentry will fire everything that's ever in its range once each per activation phase in the spirit of the game irregardless of status effects

Sentry isn't a movement sensor

[royal nacelle]

Since it doesn't actually do anything I wouldn't have it be shot (kinda like how I wouldn't allow reaction attacks vs stuff that doesn't attack).
And the new sentry entry is a rewrite error, it still triggers when stuff activates.

[ionic sorrel]

Got it

Stingtails still pull on misses, RAW?

[royal nacelle]

Yup they pull no matter what. It's not a roll to hit, but a roll to damage.

[ionic sorrel]

Got it as well

Blue dice applies to acid pool too right

Can you tell we're marathoning

[royal nacelle]

No, only the shot

[ionic sorrel]

Mmmm got it okay

So resist to any attached weapon upgrade, is that more for the stun benefit

And I guess does the top attack with two dice now apply acid to both enemies it hits if I target two

Sorry lots of questions with these new interactions

[royal nacelle]

Means if you add bonus dice and creatures have a resistance against something the resistance applies. The original flame die creatures don't have resistance again, nor the sludge pools

Yes the acid would apply to bonus dice as well, but not stack on the same creature.

Also ruling on Korlok from Ole, everything dies when the Heart Clam dies, and doesn't regrow. Can't place them on pits, and they can spawn outside the Korlok cave if necessary.

[urban iron]

Hello, about 3d printing the base game minis:

-is 0,4 printing enough? Or do i need smaller

-how expensive is it to print the entire set? I am asking someone else to print them but he doesn't now how much it will cost yet. I want to be prepared before i buy the files

[copper sorrel]

0.4mm?

on a fdm printer then?

[urban iron]

Probably yeah

[royal nacelle]

Depends on what quality finish you want. I printed some with 0.4mm nozzle FDM, passable I suppose at arm's length but doesn't quite hold up on close inspection. If you're paying them at all for their time and effort you'll be paying more than it'd cost to just buy the deluxe edition instead of standard, not sure you'll break even with only paying for the filament as is..

[copper sorrel]

Something like 1 roll of filament, maybe 1.5. Roughly $30-45.

I would highly recommend a resin print instead.

[urban iron]

Okay

[royal nacelle]

At which point you might as well get the Deluxe xD

Consider $20 for STLs and then $30-45 for filament..

[urban iron]

Deluxe Edition is 100 more expensive than what i have now

[copper sorrel]

Sure, but if you pay for labor and printer usage, you will end up with waaaaaay more.

I would ask at least $200 to print them + shipping.

[urban iron]

Hmm

Well i got my board game for 77 euros, deluxe edition is 150

Nvm, i can get it for 130. Might consider that

[tired pike]

are the new weapons in the biome expansion or the space rig expansion

[ionic sorrel]

Biome I think

[royal nacelle]

The primary weapons are in Biome, both have some new secondary weapons.

[serene hazel]

Is there an app or website out there that has tools for making pretty custom maps? I’ve just been using Acrobat and a pdf I made of the board. Using the comment feature I draw in what I need. It gets the job done but it’s really ugly.

[median ice]

Broke out the game this weekend, Mission 10 was a success!

[tacit yew]

ok

[gilded niche]

While I wouldn’t consider mine pretty, I use TTS and PowerPoint. Folks don’t seem to be complaining about the maps I uploaded to BGG.

[bitter hinge]

looking at your praet base. Is the drybrush all under? Did you squeeze a brush in there or pop the base off?

I am dreading painting the new stuff because of how much a pain the pre-glued bases are

[median ice]

Drybrushed before speedpaints helped a lot. Also small drybrush. Priming black hides areas untouched by paint.

[serene hazel]

Thanks

[ornate dock]

Can you mix black and white primers ?

[copper sorrel]

Sure

Just make sure they are both of the same composition (ie: acrylics-polyurethane, lacquer or enamel)

[steep pulsar]

That is a very good way of phrasing it. That should go in a FAQ.

[ionic sorrel]

Do pump jacks block line of sight and or movement

[royal nacelle]

"Pumpjacks block line of sight for Dwarves and creatures alike. Pumpjacks do not block movement, but no Dwarf or creature may end their movement on a pumpjack."

[ionic sorrel]

They paying you yet? Lololol

[royal nacelle]

I should start a DRG board game questions hotline. $2 per question.

[copper sorrel]

5 morkites, take it or leave it

[reef smelt]

But charge extra for stuff clearly written in the rulebook :D

[upbeat terrace]

I love when the drill says “it’s drilling time” and then drills across the board to drill the Ommoran Heartstone.

[tacit yew]

yep

[crude bloom]

Instead, charge a symbolic price of 8 bismors