modded-drg-chat

[clear drum]

Do you know if approved mods (or any kind of mods) are capable of corrupting/modifying your savegame in some way? Or do mods always save their state in a separate file or whatever? For example this one https://drg.mod.io/fabulous-molly

[unreal quail]

There have been issues with players showing up in default cosmetics for other teammates when using Flashlight range mods, I don't know if that has been fixed. If you're that concerned about your savefile integrity, make a new savefile right before installing mods or never bother with them in the first place. Not much research/testing has been made into the issue if I'm honest.
Not all mods save their state in a separate file, usually it's only the blueprint mods that do so.

[clear drum]

Ok thanks

[wanton vortex]

does anyone have an old build before update 29 where they removed bouncy plasma

it would probably be easier to mod back in if I had the code for it already made

or maybe its possible to somehow pull it from a steam repo I dunno

[unreal quail]

DRG Historian had a vid on how to pull older versions of DRG from Steam repos, do check it out.

[wanton vortex]

also would replacing heat shots with bouncy plasma be sandbox or approved

probably approved right

[warm agate]

approved

sandbox is only definitely cheaty stuff

[wanton vortex]

cool

[final panther]

excuse me, how does one use mod io?. there's a mod i wanted to use but it says i have to be in game

[spark spoke]

to what extend are "cheat mods" allowed to be used right now on the stable branch?

[warm agate]

doesn't really matter cause 2 days left before mod support goes live

[spark spoke]

fair i guess, just was in a game with 2 "cheaters"

[warm agate]

be ingame (right now on exp. branch) - open modding - link your steam to mod.io account - subscribe to any mods - they will be automatically downloaded - press "apply changes"

[final panther]

is modding on the main menu?

[warm agate]

yes

[final panther]

thanks dude

[hollow bough]

Yea, cheaters are so annoying
I was in game with scout that had infinite ammo on his boomstick
It's really destroying any challenge
I don't understand why people go into public lobbies with this kind of stuff

Especially deep dives where you can't sacrifice your teammate without loosing important features his class provides

[marble obsidian]

how do i go about making a mod, i feel like there's some pinned message somewhere I haven't seen but I'd like to know if there's a tutorial somewhere

[honest nacelle]

#fan-communities modding discord

[marble obsidian]

ty

[shell inlet]

We don't really have any. 95% of ammo, health, etc cheats that you see have absolutely nothing to do with mods.

[spark spoke]

ah okey fair, I do have video "proof" of what happened if interested

[shell inlet]

I am not since cheating on this game is incredibly easy and it takes like 1 search on the internet to find cheat related tools for it.

[unreal quail]

If you meet a Cheat Engine user, best you can do is quit his lobby and never join it again.

[spark spoke]

fair nough ^^ thanks tho

[weary saddle]

I don’t understand the notion of cheating on a pve co-op game. Some people.

[honest nacelle]

Whatever floats their boat 😂

[glossy hatch]

Whatever boats their floaties

[orchid hemlock]

is there a way to simulate having 4 players while solo? i want to have the scaling of 4 dwarves but play solo

[scarlet obsidian]

#modio-feed message

Anything with “carry” in it is usually scaled for 4 players

[orchid hemlock]

thank you

[worn shadow]

Not sure if this is the place to ask but how do I log into mod.io in-game?

[small horizon]

are you in the experimental build?

[worn shadow]

no, how do I do that

[small horizon]

before i tell you, i wanna let you know that the modding update goes live on the 14th (tomorrow), so if you can wait a day, you will get it then via an update

however, if you still wanna try it now, you can swap to the experimental branch by going to your library, right click on deep rock galactic, go to properties, then the betas tab.

you can swap to experimental from the dropdown list

[worn shadow]

oh, okay, Thank you for the help

[small horizon]

any time

[cerulean swan]

do i need to delete my mods in the fsd folder tomorrow?

[unreal quail]

Yes. Otherwise you’ll be forced into Sandbox-only mode. Mod.io is the only supported location for Verified/Approved mods. That said, you will also need to change your save file to non-Sandbox even after all the old mods are removed.

[wheat latch]

so for tommorows update i can download the mods and it should automatically be installed in the main game? if i want to disable tthe mod can i do it from the game itself ? or do i need to disbale it from the website

[warm agate]

ingame

[glossy hatch]

There will be an article about it tomorrow with all the details

[amber roost]

Wonder how modio will handle the release day load

[dusty lantern]

There'll be dozens of us, dozens!

[unreal quail]

They've handled more popular games' modding support just fine I reckon.

[light zodiac]

Make a mod that replaces Bosco sounds with Wall-E sounds

👍

[cerulean swan]

mod idea: old doom fov is it possible?

[small horizon]

i think Banagement had made something like that already, but it wasn't released IIRC

[cyan wagon]

Can you add custom music for bar with upcoming mod support?

and how hard it will be to create such mod?

[idle wave]

will client side mods force me to play on a modded save

[gaunt locust]

What about Fabulous drop pod mod like Fabulous molly?

[glad oracle]

Check pins for a breakdown on what does/doesn't count for necessitating a modded save

[scarlet obsidian]

I believe arctic was contemplating fabulous betc/minehead/utility tools last time I checked, but tbf drop pod ain’t bad, just a shame you don’t see it too much on mission (unless it’s salvage)

[bold tusk]

Are there any mods to increase the number of loadout slots? currently there are 3 and it would be nice to have say 5...

[dusty holly]

nope
I don't even think modders can actually mod it into the game IIRC

[bold tusk]

damn thats a shame'

[dusty holly]

don't worry, the devs are looking into it

[bold tusk]

oh cool

glad to hear

so the mod support update is meant to release on steam today?

[dusty holly]

yeah

[bold tusk]

id say thats in Denmark time right?

considering its 8am on the 14th for me atm

and only 12am on the 14 for the danish

and ghost ship games is a danish company

[dusty holly]

indeed

We can expect the release in the afternoon for them so in 13-15 hours from now

something like that

[bold tusk]

ahh fair enough

[dusty holly]

it's 1am for the devs right now

[bold tusk]

yup yup

[glossy hatch]

and yet pedro still doesnt sleep 😔

did someone ping me and deleted their message?

[dusty holly]

yes I did

because I realised I might have been doing another "miss the joke" thing

So I ended up deleting my comment lol

[glossy hatch]

ive been fooled and quite possibly bamboozled

[dusty holly]

sorry

[glossy hatch]

Pedro should be the one apologizing for staying up this late

[violet hull]

is there a mod that lets ya save more than 3 loadouts?

i keep taking the wrong grenades on accident

[small horizon]

nope

[warm bone]

I wanna remove the mods in the paks folder before the update for 34.5 tomorrow right?

o its in pins nm

[violet hull]

phooey

[small drift]

Is there a mod to bring jukebox music to Hoxxes?

[warm pulsar]

No idea, but you can check yourself at mod.io

[halcyon crest]

Hey Big question. I want a assault rifle that fires "explosive Bolts" at the carnivorous bugs. This Bolt-gun, a "Bolter" if you will; how much work would I have to do to add that in? Could I pay sombody to do it?

[cyan wagon]

I wish we could replace molly with catgirl robot with cute/erotic sighs when she moving around

[scarlet obsidian]

Could I pay sombody to do it?
Todd Howard? That you?

[halcyon crest]

after deep consideration "no...."

[scarlet obsidian]

modders are a pretty magnanimous bunch, they'll probably do it for free

[halcyon crest]

where must I ask to get there attention?

[unreal quail]

#fan-communities DRG Modding link is right there.

[cyan wagon]

link?

[wraith pumice]

Anyone know when 34.5 will drop today ?

[cerulean swan]

like right now my dude

[wraith pumice]

do i need to be on the experimental branch to have it ? .I am sure from the last patch note they did say we will have it today . i just don't know which hour the update will drop .

[cerulean swan]

dude restart your steam

it drop like rn

[wraith pumice]

ok . it just started downloading . thanks mate .

[heady sleet]

🥳 The day has come!! RnS!

[stable jewel]

sad

[formal spoke]

i am hoping thta someone makes a skin for the engie to be the engie from tf2, heavy to be heavy from tf2, driller to be pyro from tf2, and scout to be a fat scout from tf2.

[pastel nest]

Kindly suggesting putting the dev blog posts about modding to the stickies 🙂

[unreal quail]

Yeahh, guidelines stuff should be stickied or we'll never hear the end of "what does Approved/Verified stand for"?

[pastel nest]

It won't change that, but we can say 'read stickies' 😛

[frigid torrent]

can we now tell if servers we join have mods installed?

[hollow cedar]

enabled some mods which crashed my game and now my game crashes on opening

[pastel nest]

what's the launch option to disable mods called again?

[pastel nest]

yes

[frigid torrent]

nice

[hollow cedar]

-disablemodding

markiyo

[warm bone]

This whole thing came out much cleaner than i ever figured it would

[weary heath]

hey lads have any of you heard of a haz0 mod? my wife enjoys DRG, but mostly for mining, not murdering bugs, is there an option like that?

[warm bone]

Yeah it exists

It's like haz 0: sandbox

Im not sure if it's ported to mod.io yet

https://github.com/ArcticEcho/DRG-Mods/blob/main/Gameplay/Gamemodes/Hazard Levels/README.md#hazard-0-creative---v20

yeah just gotta wait til this gets ported to mod.io that sucks

[digital jackal]

Excuse me? I want make mod, is there any tutorial information?

[warm bone]

In the modding discord there's everythin ya need

https://discord.gg/p4UGSnU

[pastel nest]

dunno how strict you want to be, but Haz1 is actually just a handful of bugs from time to time, no?

[digital jackal]

Oh my, thnk you

[warm bone]

np!

[stone rover]

ever since I downloaded the newest update I can't join my friends or vice versa. (im not even using modded it just wouldnt let me launch DRG until I downloaded it) I already verified my files thru steam and nothing is the matter. Help?

[simple pilot]

So verified mods are always enabled if you have them installed, but approved mods are only if the lobby has it enabled right?

[warm agate]

yes, and they synchronize to host's approved mods

all your approved mods will be disabled and host's mods downloaded and installed upon joining

[dusty lantern]

have your friends updated their games as well?

[weary heath]

it was just an idea to try out different types of mods as well

[simple pilot]

Alright so kinda like a modded left4dead2 or gmod server?

[warm agate]

I don't know how it looks in both

[simple pilot]

nvm then

but seems simple enough

Can other people see if you have a verified cosmetic mod on?

[warm agate]

never except skin ulockers

[simple pilot]

Alright okay

[warm agate]

this ones just unlock for usage existing skins for armor, pickaxe and weapons

[stone rover]

that fixed it. TYSM!!!

[dusty lantern]

no worries

[earnest kernel]

I'm waiting for someone to give Gunner's cannon bolter sounds from Warhammer 40K. It would be great.

[slate topaz]

installed verified cometic mod
https://drg.mod.io/bongos-verified-cosmetic-pack
got moved into sandbox save.

10/10 updates we never asked for and noone really tested.

[pastel nest]

it says AIMED for verified

which means it's not approved yet and therefore sandbox

[unreal quail]

It's a cosmetic pak he uploaded 30 minutes ago, are you expecting GSG to review it right here right now?

[slate topaz]

it is made out of verified functions.

[pastel nest]

Yes, GSG verifies it by hand

[barren kelp]

I wonder if it's possible to make a mod that adds a meter to your HUD to tell you how drunk you are

[edgy wharf]

https://drg.mod.io/guides/mod-guidelines-and-status-categories

[slate topaz]

and........?????

[edgy wharf]

it explains what happened: "As a general rule, GSG does not review/assign Approval Categories to mods with the type Cosmetic, Visual, and/or Audio, since mods with those Types are checked in-game against a filter that detects the files they modify and automatically assign the Verified Approval Category if they pass or the Sandbox Category if they do not pass."

Also the guide explains categories.

[lost fiber]

Do modders go in groups? Anyone in need of a 3d artist for their mod project? I love DRG and I've been a 3d artist for more than 10 years 🙂

[edgy wharf]

Just a suggestion to read it since you seem to be confused about it.

[slate topaz]

so HOW to interpret this: a mod compiled 3/4 of cosmetics and 1/4 of longer ping length will be reviewed/not reviewed at all?

[edgy wharf]

All mods with [aimedfor...] will be reviewed.

[cyan wagon]

ty for mods

Someone tested cat purr purr mod for loot bug?

[edgy wharf]

We are finishing up a guide on review process and how to tag mods when uploading

[cyan wagon]

I was thinking about either virgin lootbug or cat purr purr lootbug

[slate topaz]

and are the approvals gameside or serverside? I mean if the game will now need to update after each approval "wave" ?

[edgy wharf]

You will probably have to reload the spacerig

[cyan wagon]

Do you need another save for mods?

[edgy wharf]

or reopen the game for it to be updated. No new patch release is needed.

[edgy wharf]

For Sandbox mods - yes

[cyan wagon]

after restarting it works

but mod save isn't created. So its not sandbox mods?

[edgy wharf]

So a feature of the mod support is that if installing mods makes the game crash (which happens - we have no control of UGC) it all mods that were in that install process will be disabled. You can then try to enable one at a time to locate the mod that caused the problem.
If a Sandbox mod is not enabled you will not have to change save - only when you enable them will you be prompted to make a Sandbox save

[vestal delta]

Can't approved mods be used to speedrun progression by making the game easier/faster?

[pulsar blade]

Its pretty obvious that someone could sneak in a unverified mod into a compilation so it has to be checked literally twice.

[slate topaz]

and what about mod updates of verified mods? do they have to be re-verified too? 😉

[void whale]

No 😉

Friendly reminder no one is forcing anyone to engage with modding support if you dislike it. You can just go about your day and play the game as you're used to without any changes.

[slate topaz]

I used to play it with 2 direct mods, not recognized now.

[small horizon]

not really. most mods that affect difficulty increase difficulty, the the ones that make it easier are only like resupply cost mods meant for use with difficulty mods. all the broken stuff is in sandbox

[void whale]

Have you asked the mod creator if it has been updated to the latest game version?

[obtuse light]

If there is, what is the flag for when the minigun is in the red bar status?

Kinda considering to fiddle with modding to add a "Press R when in the red to instaoverheat" action when using aggressive venting

[slate topaz]

they are not on Mod.io they are on nexus mods

[vestal delta]

That is currently, under these guidelines they could do that no?

[small horizon]

do what with what?

[vestal delta]

Make the game easier and faster to speedrun progression.

[void whale]

It doesn't have to. But it has to be compatible with the latest game version. And seeing as the update has only been out for two hours, it's pretty likely the mod creator of that mod hasn't had a chance to update his mod.

[slate topaz]

i don't know how currently to put those mods into game, the gave us ZERO info.

[small horizon]

not really. you could probably use slightly stronger items or cut resupply costs down but all the stuff that cheats resources or is broken strong is in sandbox

it wouldn't really speedrun anything

[void whale]

????? There is literally guides on mod.io explaining exactly that

[vestal delta]

So mods will be vetted for this?

[small horizon]

yes. the devs actively categorize the mods, so all the broken stuff you're worried about will be in sandbox, not approved

before a mod is categorized, it is defaulted to sandbox as well

[slate topaz]

can you cite a line from mod.io where they describe how mod WITHOUT mod.io????

[void whale]

If you have mods installed the old way, they will be detected in-game and show up in the Modding Menu. However, the mod will default to the Sandbox category and has to be compatible with the current game version to even show up

[void whale]

"Note to Modders: Mods added to the game “the old way” will also automatically act as a Sandbox mod ingame."

[slate topaz]

I see. Can you please check for me if fabulous molly mod (verified on mod.io) is not working not only for me?

[void whale]

It is working.

If you have Fabulous Molly installed the old way, remove it from your game files

Then download it through mod.io instead

[slate topaz]

am i blind... was the molly terminal moved???

[dusty lantern]

no, do you have the bp mod manager installed?

[slate topaz]

no, i disabled it before update

[dusty lantern]

well you need to enable it, fab molly wouldn't work without

[slate topaz]

good info, missed it somehow

[void whale]

If you download Fabulous Molly through mod.io, it will automatically install the dependencies (like BPMM) too 🙂

[slate topaz]

LOL, no. it installed dependency mod only after game restart. Before it was neither shown as downloading nor as installing. Looks like I found a minor bug.

[atomic swan]

I'm very surprised the two "molly doesn't move automatically as much" mods don't seem to be on mod.io yet

those are by far the mods I use the most

[slate topaz]

Any info where mods save additional parameters: in save file or in PC registry?

[small horizon]

the mod author(s) just haven't gotten around to it yet i guess

[small horizon]

they save to .sav files in your game save folder, in a mods subfolder IIRC

yeah they do

just verified

[slate topaz]

let me guess: this file is not secured by steam cloud saves..... thats an issue

[small horizon]

i dunno why you'd assume that

i dont know if they are or not

[void whale]

Yes they are. And they are also backed up every time you join a modded server 😉

[slate topaz]

I checked this link.https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=548430 cloud saves only have vanialla game's save file

[void whale]

Try to check the 'Restore Save' menu in-game.

[slate topaz]

Just incase you didn' understand me: I mean saving my molly config, not my changes player savegame.

[void whale]

Oh. Yeah, fair enough. Don't know if specific mod changes are saved.

[slate topaz]

that is what I asked, because my molly appeared in same look like, before this update, even with old mods removed.

[dusty lantern]

The mod config save path hasn't changed

[slate topaz]

can you tell me the path please?

[white edge]

who whatever create the barrel armor return mod thanks you for that

[dusty lantern]

FSD\Saved\SaveGames\Mods

[slate topaz]

@edgy wharf are there any plans now, after official support, to add mod config save-files to "steam cloud saves" backup?

[edgy wharf]

Not sure I understand - Do you mean Sandbox Saves? because those are in steam cloud

[slate topaz]

NO. Some mods add additional configs: like make your own molly. Those molly configs are saved too in Steam\steamapps\common\Deep Rock Galactic\FSD\Saved\SaveGames\Mods\Fabulous Molly\ Master Config.sav

[stuck kernel]

I have a few music mods that I can't upload to mod.io due to concerns about their copyright. But now that the mod support update is here, I can't use them with my main save.

[pastel nest]

mods outside of mod.io will be used as sandbox AFAIK

[edgy wharf]

Ok - No there isn't any plans to support steam cloud saves for those

[charred lodge]

uh i'm bringing this here bc i haven't found an answer in the bug discussion:
i deleted all mods from my .paks folder and unsubbbed uninstalled all mods from mod.io, uninstalled and reinstalled, deleted old fab molly configs and other mod saves from the fsd\saved\savegames but my main save is being read as sandbox and i can't create a non-sandbox save onto it. i've launched with -disablemodding and it's still being read as sandbox. there are cloud non-sandbox saves that i can't restore. wanted to ask here before doing any save editor as a last ditch effort

[slate topaz]

you must LOAD manually your old NON_sandbox savegeme. It will not switch back automatically.

[charred lodge]

how do i do this?

[slate topaz]

go into options, save menu, and look for most current save game marked with (main save)

[atomic swan]

the [Modded] label next to everything I say in chat is extremely weird

[slate topaz]

what is weirder: now you either use mod.io and install approved mods, or you can't join approved lobbies. Before it was just working without being overregulated.

[pastel nest]

Yes, now anyone can install mods with 2 clicks from within the game, without needing to look up how modding works and folder stuff, and nobody screws his savegame progression by accidentally joining sandbox games 😉

[slate topaz]

Now I only need 2 mods to be happy: "x3 flashlight" and "jump boots" perk.

[neat robin]

I only have approved mods, bout i can't see approved lobbies, is this normal?

[raven canopy]

Maybe you are still using a sandbox save?

[stoic ingot]

Can some one do an Alien/Aliens music mix? 🙂

In fact a whole Aliens reskin of enemies and marines lol Be nice to see a proper Alien game for once. ok ill go now lol

[neat robin]

hmm, maybe

@raven canopy changing save worked, thanks

[slate topaz]

Why is "radioactive zone without ash" verified mod but "3x flashlight range" approved mod? Zero logic zero sense. Why force whole, lobby to install cosmetic mod????

[warm pulsar]

Did you read the description for the categories in the patch notes?

[void whale]

Because 3x flashlight range is a gameplay advantage 🙂

[cosmic shuttle]

true

[strong bear]

I noticed something weird with the mod i made.. 'Mammal based class Icon' after the patch, I tried logged in and the mod seems to work just fine but then I noticed the Server class icon hasn't change like it intended to.. it still looks the same so, I check with the original .pak file to see if there anything change with the current location of those files but there is nothing then I try throw in the .pak file I have which it works like intended to therefore im asking is it because the file review by dev was a version before what it is now so, the current version does not work and need the dev to later review it for it to work properly?
*sorry for my bad english

@raven canopy

[warm pulsar]

Updates to mods should inherit the category they’ve been assigned already.

[heady sleet]

If your mod do not work, try repacking it with the new version of the game 😄

[slate topaz]

and no fog is not. While both are playerside only. WHY to force whole lobby to install it? I just want join running lobbies with this mod, and hardly anyone will have it. I have 1200 h ingame all achievmetns, play HAZ 6 more than HAZ 5. I need no loot. But with this mod I now can not join running games any more.

[cosmic shuttle]

you got all achies?

[slate topaz]

I WON the game. I have no drops any more, bought everything, 69/69 achievements.

[cosmic shuttle]

bruh, that's something :0

[worthy helm]

I haven't followed the mods-discussion alot - I understand there are modded and non-modded saves now. Can a modded save join a non-modded gamelobby and do their mods impact that lobby?

[warm pulsar]

#patch-notes-steam

[strong bear]

@heady sleet Does 'scan in progress' in the site have anything to do with this?

[heady sleet]

Scan in progress? On the site? Anything to do with what? Not sure I follow you here. 😄

[strong bear]

this

[cursive eagle]

How do I remove all the mods listed as "deprecated"? they not longer appear in my mod folder

[heady sleet]

No, that should not have anything to do with it I think 😄

[heady sleet]

Remove the your .pak files from Content/Paks 😄

NOT the windowsnoeditor.pak though 😄

[slate topaz]

I can only say it here directly so the DEVs understand the consequences of their decisions: they are forcing a triple-epic 1200 h veteran into cheating, because otherwise I will not find lobbies to play with. Those light WILL shine x3 even without their approval.

[worthy helm]

@warm pulsar Thanks, I read through it and it doesn't specify that. It says that "verified mods" will automatically install and uninstall for players (in case of non-modders joining a modded lobby with verified mods). But I didn't find if a player using "verified" will get his mods disabled if they join a non-modded lobby.
It states that there are sanbox-saves that CANT join non-modded lobbies, but thats not what I asked.

[strong bear]

i tried compared two installation method, by simply throw in .pak mod file it works... but by uploading this same file into mod.io it doesn't work or not all feature work properly so im confused

[heady sleet]

Hmm that should not happen. Can you send me the link to your mod? 😄

[cursive eagle]

Thanks, I'm clean now

[slate topaz]

@Jonas - Platform guy can we discuss why "x3 flashlight range" mod while cosmetic and client only is approved and not verified? Why it needs a host using it, while it is 100 % cosmetic only?

[heady sleet]

Well, Mark answered you on this: #modded-drg-chat message 😄

[pastel nest]

The 'X times flashlight range' I see on mod.io are all approved

[cosmic shuttle]

it's an advantage though

you can see grabbers and minerals

[white edge]

there is the armor barrel mod

https://drg.mod.io/barrel-armor

[strong bear]

I send em to you directly is that okay?

[heady sleet]

Yes, that good. I will have a look at it 😄

[strong bear]

thank you

[slate topaz]

I refuse to accept such not logical answer because my GPU has gamma settings and my AOC monitor has nightvison mode.

[heady sleet]

so if i'm the host, and I have a Verified mod installed, (say it's a hat for bosco), will everyone else in the lobby be able to see bosco with the hat? even if they didnt go to mod.io and install it themselves?

[worthy helm]

Flash range is obviously an advantage.. Imagine having that in Horrorgames.. The whole game is basically pointless to play since it's changed that much, the brighness settings are crutial to the gameplay

[void whale]

No. That's the point of Verified. They're personal.

[cosmic shuttle]

we use Bosco in solo games anyway so you'll see that lil hat 💚

[warm pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/Wu6Xi3S.png verified mods are treated as if you're a vanilla player.

[heady sleet]

i suppose it was a bad example, then :3

[void whale]

We know what you meant ❤️

[winged urchin]

Can't speak for any other modders, but I can say personally that lack of 3d modeling experience/talent is a huge limitation for my nonsense high-quality mods and I'd love to collaborate!

[opal basin]

Hello, I am having a hard time finding out how to start modding for Deep Rock Galactic
I have searched mod.io, pins in this channel, google for modding, sdk, etc for Deep Rock Galactic, I have read through steam updates about modding
I cannot where to go to start modding.

Is it private?

[winged urchin]

I, uh, don't have that exact thing uploaded, but Codependent Molly definitely changes the automatic movement 😬

[warm pulsar]

#fan-communities modding discord

[snow bobcat]

question about modding: i installed a few QoL mods and it prompted me to make a new save based on my current one, if i go back to my old unmodded save and level up on there, will the other save be updated too?

[opal basin]

Thanks Loan, so there is no official link to a modding sdk from Ghost Ship? (that is a fan comunity?)

[sand compass]

Why cant i find a thomas the train detonator mod?

[warm pulsar]

no official SDK from GSG

[void whale]

No, but you can always create a new copy of your current save

[normal wedge]

After I subscribed to the mods I've chosen, and logged into mod.io from the steam browser in game, I'm not seeing my subscribed mods showing up in the manage mods tab. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[snow bobcat]

ty 👍

[void whale]

Did you subscribe to the mods in-game?

[normal wedge]

Yes. From the steam browser.

[void whale]

Try to press 'Manage mods' in the Modding tab

And make sure your Steam account is connected to your mod.io account

[normal wedge]

It is.

[rotund frigate]

Cant get mods to work. I logged on mod.io linked steam account. Clicking install mods in game opens mod portal but subscribing to any mod does not do anything. It's just pops message -- This mod will be automatically installed when you are logged into mod.io in-game.--

[normal wedge]

I see my steam avatar and my name in the top right.

[stray halo]

#bug-discussion message Try this, it worked for me.

I had the same problem

[void whale]

Try this @normal wedge

[normal wedge]

Will do. Thank you.

[rancid iris]

do other people have to download cosmetics mods I have?

[atomic swan]

unfortunately it's the exact opposite of what I want 😢

[heady sleet]

How do i uninstall mods?

[small horizon]

unsubscribe from them on mod.io

[warm pulsar]

verified no, approved yes.

[thick forum]

what y'all think about waiting times for people coming to ur lobby? even when ur on approved mods and not sandbox

[olive widget]

nobody is able to see my room on the EDD panel because modded rooms are automatically turned off

[rotund frigate]

That's helped a lot thank you. Rock and stone.

[atomic swan]

to be clear, with verified they don't have to download to play with you, but they won't see the same cosmetic mod

[thick forum]

I really think they should at least automatically turn all ON, noobs wont even know what they miss out on

[olive widget]

yeah

[rancid iris]

what's the difference between approved and verified?

[olive widget]

honestly i have no idea

[heady yoke]

verified is usually cosmetic only, so audio/visual mods

it doesn't affect other people at all

[normal wedge]

Not seeing a way to delete the mod.io account. Even google was unable to help me with that.

[thick forum]

Im telling you, I would get EDD lobbies in 5 minutes or less, and now I can sit for 2 hours and literally nobody joins the game (and im only on approved mods)

[olive widget]

yeah

me too

[void whale]

Try without deleting your account first and see if that works.

[normal wedge]

k

[heady yoke]

i set approved to on, but game never saves the setting

[olive widget]

before the modding update i would just stick starship troopers and cave leech clusterfuck in my rooms

nobody knew the better

i put "Starship Troopers" on my room channel though

room name

[craggy sluice]

Then perhaps do vanilla game then. Not everyone wants to do EDD with mods

since it is EDD after all

[olive widget]

i put it there they know what they were getting into

[thick forum]

best thing is gonna be to create a group of set people who like mods

and invite them thru steam

[craggy sluice]

well theres #lfg-modded-steam

Which essentially serves the same purpose

[olive widget]

there's so little singapore players though

[thick forum]

Well, nonetheless its quite sad to see this

[heady sleet]

Can we expect more fov mod to be verified?

[olive widget]

i used to be able to get people to join quickly

now nobody joins

[heady sleet]

Yeah me too, I had only one guy that joined and he left

I did alone rest of the mission

[thick forum]

Really a lot of people dont like mods it seems

[olive widget]

or they don't know they can turn it on

[thick forum]

Or they just dont see the lobbies cuz its automatically turned off

[olive widget]

yeah

it's automatically turned off

[heady sleet]

Kinda pisses me off that more fov isn't verified lmao

[slate topaz]

makes no sense at all.

[heady sleet]

Really don't see what advantage it gives you

I mean that faster moving thing is just illusion

[slate topaz]

as I said above: current regulations force legit players into cheating actually.

[thick forum]

yeah I would say add FOV improvement to verified too

[edgy wharf]

You delete you account by going to your profile - click privacy and in the buttom there's the option to delete the account.

[snow bobcat]

Another modding question: does using mods in any fashion, even outside of sandbox, disable achievements? im getting close to the veteran miner achievement but i dont wanna lose any potential progress on it because I happen to want my promotion terminal inside my personal cabin

[edgy wharf]

What achivement is veteran miner?

[normal wedge]

Thank you!

[snow bobcat]

Oh, excuse me, I meant Legendary Miner

its the 500 missions achievement

im at 410

[edgy wharf]

Ahh okay - So Verified mods do not disable achivements - approved does. So it depends on what category you have installed.

[olive widget]

lol damn

so starship troopers disables achievements

[snow bobcat]

aw man, ive got an approved mod on

thank you

[olive widget]

even though it makes it strictly harder

[warm pulsar]

the issue is approved mods allow for slight alterations to gameplay and progression.

[olive widget]

yea...

i just want people to be able to see my modded EDD room

it's just starship troopers

[craggy sluice]

Unfortunately you have to accept the consequences of running a modded game

[rancid iris]

what's the point of differentiating approved and sandbox if you can't see any modded lobbies by default or get achivements regardless if you have sandbox or approved mods

[craggy sluice]

just wait and someone will eventually

[olive widget]

i'd rather have no update at all

just put starship troopers in

or i just put it in the title

at least more people joins

[heady sleet]

How is more fov altering gameplay and progression

[cyan wagon]

I got last achievement with basic visual mods 1 hour ago

[warm pulsar]

Ask the devs, they categorized it.

[atomic swan]

not nearly as much as before

[olive widget]

nobody joins my room lmao

[craggy sluice]

that may be so but they most likely either they don't get its a mod or not which the filter deals with

[olive widget]

it was actually much better pre update

[craggy sluice]

it wouldn't be fair to people who just wants to play vanilla would it now?

[olive widget]

i put it in my title bro

[craggy sluice]

just because you do not everyone is gonna know what starship troopers is or understands what it is lmao

[olive widget]

it says [mod]

[craggy sluice]

for all I care its someone named Starship Troopers hosting it

[cyan wagon]

they're scared of mods with 99millions exp maybe

[rancid iris]

tbh people putting [MODDED] in their server titles was a lot more effective then now where you can't even see modded lobbies by defaeult

[craggy sluice]

also if you're hosting now, its bloody 11:20 PM, not many will be playing atm

[olive widget]

it says [mod] starship troopers and i get more people

[unreal quail]

Why do Approved mods disable achievements? We've talked about this GSG, it's just going to make Approved mods way less attractive with no real benefit to modding.

[rancid iris]

^

[olive widget]

lol i hosted on a tuesday night once at 11 am and i get more than right now

i managed to get a 4 man team in 10 minutes

i meant 11pm

[cyan wagon]

depends from which country

In Russia/germany prime time now

[craggy sluice]

He's from southeast asia

I'm from southeast asia

[atomic swan]

My personal take is I used to run games with extremely minor QoL mods. like "drop countdown is instant" and "molly moves automatically at 55m away instead of 20m away". Now, if I want to run mods like that, I have to play with a much smaller playerbase, so it's a strictly negative change for me.

[neon cairn]

mb because it alters gameplay which affects how you gain these achievements?

kinda obvious

[oak sparrow]

okay even I'll admit that the Fat Man OC is too much

[cyan wagon]

each player downloading mods when he joins modded game?

[olive widget]

yeah i don't take weapon balance mods

usually take mods that make my life harder

[cyan wagon]

some music packs can be around 300mb

[neon cairn]

I like some QoL mods

[small horizon]

the music stuff should be client side, which people wouldnt be downloading when they join your game

[cyan wagon]

that's change of balance and not minor mod, no?

[oak sparrow]

so verified mods wont mark your game as modded, correct?

[cyan wagon]

minor i.e changing textures of weapons/sounds effects

which is completely fine

[craggy sluice]

yes, its all only on your side

[warm pulsar]

If it's verified, this is correct. If it's approved then it downloads.

[buoyant sphinx]

Is it normal that having both approved and verified mods marks the save as sandbox?

[atomic swan]

not really lol

[warm pulsar]

disable all mods and see if you have any non sandbox save available

[buoyant sphinx]

I do have the backups so i'm fine yes, but like

Having both these kinds of mod sets it to sandbox

[warm pulsar]

do you have any mods installed outside of mod.io?

[buoyant sphinx]

You mean mods in the in game browser?

I only got those

[warm pulsar]

mods manually installed in the paks folder

[buoyant sphinx]

Nope, never did that

[cyan wagon]

I don't get why 1 music pack is sandbox and other is verified

they are same but with different music

or it depends if its outdated i.e N/A version

[olive widget]

i'm going to have to name my room Starship Troopers waiting room lmao

then tell people to turn on their mod search in the EDD panel later

[warm pulsar]

mods are automatically uploaded as sandbox with manual approval to other categories. If it's freshly uploaded then it's going to be sandbox.

[edgy wharf]

Did you play with mods on experimental?

[oak sparrow]

swarm size control overwrites starship troopers right?

[buoyant sphinx]

Didn't even download the experimental build

[copper ember]

Im sad the fabulous bug mod doesn't work for me

[tropic harbor]

I do have a question, does anyone know where the mods I download through mod.io (via in-game menu) are being saved on my system?

[languid moat]

How is Double Ammo a sandbox mod? its basically the 40 Nitra Resupply mod with less steps.

[buoyant sphinx]

It breaks progression by giving you an advantage with no balancing

[edgy wharf]

Dm me a list of the mods you have installed and send me your SaveGame folder as a .zip

[buoyant sphinx]

Aye

[languid moat]

how tho? isn't having 50% nitra costs effectively the same?

[buoyant sphinx]

50% nitra cost for the same amount of ammo as 100% the cost would get you isn't balanced

[copper ember]

The 50% nitra mod seems to be balanced with less ammo per pod

So no loss no gain

[lime sandal]

anyone still having the bug where it wont install a mod?

[hot wharf]

i had to fully restart my game to get some to enable

[lime sandal]

I'm subscribed to Starship troopers but it's not loading in

[edgy wharf]

Have you downloaded its dependencies? it should get them from mod.io automatically - but it can take a while depending on your internet

[copper ember]

I did not maybe that why

[edgy wharf]

Could be yeah 😄

[merry field]

Can you use mods on deep dives?

[lime sandal]

yes

[languid moat]

EIther or, either double ammo or 40 nitra. For x2 ammo mod - 100 ammo = 200 ammo so a 80 nitra RS gives 100 ammo. 40 nitra mod - 100 ammo so 80 nitra would give 100 ammo. (if one refill per drop)

[atomic swan]

it still makes it easier by allowing you to call earlier/with less

[copper ember]

yeah basically but it will force you to call more often

fair trade imo

[languid timber]

And you have to spend twice as long actually holding E to get a full refill

But I have been in missions that ended up in failure because we couldn't find enough nitra to go from 76 to 80 so in those cases the mod would make it easier

[olive widget]

starship troopers waiting room method worked lmao

[languid moat]

Been there too, it sucks xD

[copper ember]

I can confirm this was the dependency missing

I thought it was me who subscribed to something by accident so i removed it

[edgy wharf]

Ahh yeah if it has the "Framework" tag - it is often a dependency

[snow bobcat]

hmmm, i have only verified mods but my achievement progress for the legendary miner achievement is still stuck at 410

[unreal quail]

Approved/Sandbox mods now disable achievement progress; doublecheck all mods in the Modding tab.

[snow bobcat]

yeah, they're all Verified category

[fervent ginkgo]

if i download mods while on a specific save and I change saves, will the mods carry over? im wondering because im not an avid fan of mods but i'd like to goof with friends and i'd like to be able to switch on a moments notice

[unreal quail]

Your save might be labeled as Sandbox still; check that in the options menu.

[unreal quail]

Mods are tagged on to your account, saves do not matter as far as I know (except Sandbox stuff).

[fervent ginkgo]

well I guess it's good im only going for cosmetic ones.

[languid timber]

You can enable or disable specific mods selectively at any time through the modding menu

[unreal quail]

#bug-discussion hopefully there will be someone to help your issue.

[wooden hornet]

Hello there! I'm looking to create a mod that replaces all the voice lines with my own. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks :)

[languid timber]

There's guides on how to get started with modding in the dedicated DRG modding discord, which can be found in #fan-communities

[wooden hornet]

I'll go ahead and join that discord, tyvm!

[languid timber]

[fervent ginkgo]

where is it found in the options menu to change the type of save you're on?

[olive widget]

i think save menu

[fervent ginkgo]

i dont see it in the save menu

[olive widget]

strange

i saw mine in save menu

[languid timber]

You can't convert a save that you're playing afaik?

When you install a sandbox mod, it automatically prompts you to create a new sandbox save. But once a save is marked sandbox it can't be reverted

[fervent ginkgo]

ah

i assume you can't mark what is registered as your "main save?"

[languid timber]

Probably not

[sharp hill]

...why is improved flashlight not an approved mod?

[glossy hatch]

It has to go through the inspection process, new mods will automatically be sandboxed

[sharp hill]

It's approved, tho.

Just not verified.

I am so confused.

[fervent ginkgo]

verified is something you can use on your main save right?

[sharp hill]

Verified = you can use it anytime even if no one else has it.

[languid timber]

A flashlight mod is TECHNICALLY cosmetic, but it DOES affect the balance of the game because the light economy is so carefully balanced

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah

[sharp hill]

Eh, maybe if you're running a crazy brightness, sure.

Not sure a slightly higher flashlight setting is really unbalancing the game.

[cyan pendant]

Question

[glossy hatch]

"Insert Scout's utility debate"

[cyan pendant]

How difficult would it be to enable all classes to use all weapons?

[atomic swan]

I mean, if you wanna see farther you're supposed to either want scout or strong arm

[sharp hill]

Never have I see flashlight boost outdo a flare that can cross a room. Just sayin.

[cyan pendant]

I just wanna warthog scout

So I can shotgun while I boomstick

[glossy hatch]

Fairly sure it has been done before, idk if there is an updated version for mod.io

[cyan pendant]

I know there's a utility one.

[edgy wharf]

Verfied mods are not allowed to change gameplay elements and/or playstyle of a player. If you can see more in the darkness you will play differently.

[edgy wharf]

if that is the case - then it is a bug. #420195388675588096 - also add a list of what mods you have installed

[cyan pendant]

I wonder if it's possible to replace a gun's projectile with another projectil

[sharp hill]

Has not been the case yet after 6 months. But okay.

[cyan pendant]

Replace boomstick pellets with flaregun rods.

[oak sparrow]

its fine if you have them installed but theyre disabled right?

[edgy wharf]

Yes

And if it isn't working it is a bug 🙂

[thick forum]

Uuh, a bug. Shoot it!

[hushed pasture]

Launching the game for the first time after the update and can't get passed the "Choose a saveslot to load"

IDK what save was named? IIRC I only had the one

[edgy wharf]

Okay and then when you go to the save menu - what does it look like there now?

[hushed pasture]

I can't get passed this screen at all and cannot see a save menu

[hot wharf]

try pressing esc?

[edgy wharf]

okay you write a name there

Call the savegame something.

[thick forum]

Yeah, write something in the bar and then click create

[hushed pasture]

the only keys that work are alt+f4 >.>

[thick forum]

You tried writing smth and creating? doesnt work?:

[hushed pasture]

trust that esc was the first thing I tried

[edgy wharf]

do you have any mods installed?

[hushed pasture]

I was (am?) almost player rank 500 and would rahter not loose my progress

I had mods installed

[edgy wharf]

try uninstalling them and relaunch

[hushed pasture]

I had them installed

the mods folder is empty post-update

[edgy wharf]

are you subsribed to any mods?

[hushed pasture]

I was subscribed in experimental branch

[edgy wharf]

have you unsubsribed to them now?

you can do that from the mod.io website

[hushed pasture]

oh boy, the mod.io site outside of the game is quite unintutitve 🙂

[edgy wharf]

Yeaah 😄 they are working on revamping the website though

[warm pulsar]

it's allegedly getting a face-lift soon

[edgy wharf]

sooooon

[languid timber]

My gf installed only verified and approved mods but her main save file got marked as (modded), is there any way to fix this?

[hushed pasture]

clicks mods
"here's the mods you've developed"
...oh
clicks games
"here's the games you've developed"

I think I unsubbed from everything and relaunched

[edgy wharf]

Does it still prompt you to change save?

[hushed pasture]

yes it does!

I may have missed a mod

[warm bone]

Approved gets marked as modded cuz its stuff like haz 6/ starship troopers whereas verified is clientside stuff

[hushed pasture]

I found a checkbox...I missed a mod

After restart I'm still prompted to change save

[warm pulsar]

Not quite. Verified and approved mods can be utilized on a regular save without issue. Sandbox mods require the use of a modded save file.

[warm bone]

Ye but u still get the modded tag

on ur name

[languid timber]

Ah I see, thank you

[hasty ridge]

I'm not seeing deep rock on the steam workshop

[warm pulsar]

because it isn't there

[warm pulsar]

#patch-notes-steam

[idle wave]

if i join someone elses game who are using approved mods could it mess my save up

[warm pulsar]

define mess up

[idle wave]

cause jacked xp/monetary gains

corruptions

etc

[edgy wharf]

try launching with -disablemodding in launch options

[sharp hill]

Believe unless everyone is running it, it turns off the mod. There's a steam post that explains it.

[warm pulsar]

approved mods alter gameplay and progression in minor ways inline with vanilla progression and gameplay. You may run into a few that have increased xp to compensate for increased difficulty. You shouldn't run into issues where your save becomes corrupted. That being said, you're playing with mods so the risk exists and is on you.

[hushed pasture]

woohoo!

[edgy wharf]

go to the save menu an click restore save

[idle wave]

how often do the backups update

[hushed pasture]

this is an A double plus informative message lol

love it 😄

[edgy wharf]

Not to actually restore your save, just to load your saves

[hasty ridge]

Are they planning on adding DRG to the steamworkshop

[edgy wharf]

no

[idle wave]

they have mod.io

which has what the devs want

[hasty ridge]

for sheezy

[hushed pasture]

went to save menu
loaded my "Player" save

[oak sparrow]

installed 10 cosmetic mods in 10 minutes lets go!

[edgy wharf]

Make an extra save save of the main - close down the game and relaunch without the launch options: do you still get the prompt?

[hushed pasture]

had this

[oak sparrow]

Sandbox - Affects Progression & Achievements
Approved - Affects Achievements but not Progression
Verified - Basically the same as Vanilla

did i get this right?

[warm pulsar]

pinned messages

[hushed pasture]

closed, removed launch option, relaunched and still get prompted to create a save

[edgy wharf]

and you can not type in anything?

[soft hare]

I need help, my doesn't function after i installed too many mods

[edgy wharf]

have you tried uninstalling them?

And unsubsribing

[soft hare]

i can't, the game doesn't start to do that

[edgy wharf]

and launching with -disablemodding

[soft hare]

i did that but it doesn't let me uninstall the mods

[edgy wharf]

you can unsubsribe through the browser - the mod.io webpage

[soft hare]

ooh okay i'll try that

[oak sparrow]

Unsubscribing from the mod will automatically uninstall the mod

[edgy wharf]

Steps to do when mods cause issues: https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/discussions/1/3044985412487214673/

[tepid sequoia]

Would client side mods like custom HUDs count as verified?

[warm pulsar]

if it doesn't affect others then likely yes

[tepid sequoia]

I’ve always thought it would be cool to have a customizable HUD

Cool, if anyone finds a mod like that, don’t hesitate to let me know

[hushed pasture]

Typed in a placeholder save name and I now have 3 save games. Interestingly, if I look at hte modding tab I see all the mods I manually installed prior to official mod support. I don't see a way to removed the deprecated mods. The "X" to the right is a disabled button. Clicking "manage mods" takes me to the mod.io page for DRG when I can see I am not subscribed to any mods currently.

Seems like something got cached or moved when launching post update? I think I could resolve the problem, admittedly of my own making, by just removing all of the local files and reinstalling the game. That said, happy to keep troubleshooting if it's useful! If not...I'll just go clean up my mess 🙂

[hushed pasture]

Modding tab

[edgy wharf]

Thanks for info! If you have mods installed the "old way" you will automatically be flagged as Sandbox - and the only ways to remove those mods is also - as you said - the "old way" of finding them and deleting them and reverfifying stuff and reinstalling 🙂

[hushed pasture]

IIRC all of those are "Approved" yet, because I sourced them from Nexus Mods, they seem to be sandboxed and that explains why I couldn't select my main save

[warm pulsar]

because you installed them manually instead of through mod.io

[hushed pasture]

I am an impatient person

[warm pulsar]

if you want to play outside of the sandbox then you'll need to download them through mod.io and delete all mods from the pak folder.

[restive elm]

https://youtu.be/8w1e-rjK69o

ngl this mod is pretty cool

[hushed pasture]

🤦 silly me for looking in the "mods" subdir and not the "paks" subdir and getting confused

nothing to see here! just another EBKAC

[oak sparrow]

arent the dwarf cosmetic armor mods kinda useless since its client side only and you're in a first person POV?

[warm pulsar]

They're perfect for the higher difficulty mods where you'll spend most of your time downed

[honest nacelle]

it costs one mod slot anyways for the combined one

i use it cuz why not

and molly one too 😂

[unreal quail]

Don't forget to grab Better Spectator to look at your own cosmetic stuff in detail while dead ;)

[honest nacelle]

^

[earnest kernel]

It is. I hope someone adds the bolter to the heavy cannon sounds.

[gaunt locust]

Delete your old "paks" files from game folder if there's any installed

[oak sparrow]

Hmm i think one of the mods messes with Engi's Sentry build-speed mod

took me 4 secs to build my own sentry even though I had the mod on

might be the upgraded doretta mod but i cant be sure

[unreal quail]

Post a list of your mods if you have suspicions.

[oak sparrow]

yeah i think its the upgraded doretta mod

went on a mining mission and turret build speed was fine

cant post a list of mods though since I only joined some other guy's room

[shell inlet]

The turrets on upgraded doretta are stock with no bonuses.

They are much worse than your actual turret but they stay on her.

[hot wharf]

EM discharge doesn't care

[shell inlet]

I could update it to replace them with minehead turrets or buff the turret stats but I didn't want them to be considered too strong.

But I also can't update it since I lost all of my project files for the mod, lol.

[sharp ledge]

is the mod.io search bugged or something? the Swarm Size Control mod wasnt found by searching for Swarm, and the 40 Nitra Resupply Pods wasn't found by searching for Nitra

[unreal quail]

No. Swarm Size Control shows up as the first in list when typing Swarm into the search bar, and Nitra finds all xx Nitra Resupply Pods with 40 variant being first. That said, I'm doing this through a normal browser, not the in-game interface. Something might be different.

[honest nacelle]

That worked in game for me and in browser.

[true jewel]

You will see other players wearing it too, if they are using the armor that it replaces.

[civic wadi]

Quick question, are the verified mods as well as the approved mods ok for multiplayer on my main save? Or is it only approved?

[warm pulsar]

both

[civic wadi]

excellent, I'm a happy boy

Ty

[olive widget]

Hiding modded rooms in the Deep Dive panel sucked pretty hard

I literally had to unmod my room and name it “Starship Troopers waiting room”

And wait for people to join

And then I tell them I’m about to mod the room and come back in 30 seconds when I modded the room and started an EDD room

Managed to find a squad to play with with this method as opposed to waiting for an hour for no one to join when I mod my room normally

[iron island]

Any chance of having extra FOV mods as non sandbox?

[unreal quail]

Because GSG verifies mods by manual review, it's probably going to happen tomorrow and not earlier.

[iron island]

Sweetness

[pearl dove]

are there any mods that change the sound of the gk2?

[shell inlet]

Yes, not sure if it is uploaded though.

[gleaming shard]

one question, even if a mod doesnt change the mechanics and difficulty of the game, or like textures or skins, but just sound or perhaps a UI enhancement, would others have to have the mod as well? or would it only effect you?

[slate topaz]

here you see how their intrusion into working system made the life worse for true modders.

[shell inlet]

Just you.

[gleaming shard]

oh good because i was about to say usually games implement this other than the other person having to have the mod

what a relief

[slate topaz]

but if it goes into "approved" everyone will have to install it ))))))))))))

[shell inlet]

Sounds like a bug, your server should be listed to everyone unless they have opted out of mods via a setting.

[olive widget]

no they don't see it

unless they click "approved mods"

i had my friend test it out

[slate topaz]

wrong person

[olive widget]

he couldn't see my room

[shell inlet]

My bad, lol.

[shell inlet]

I haven't tried this update out at all yet, is that a filter they have to select?

[olive widget]

yes

it's automatically turned off for mods

so when you search for rooms in deep dives panel you will only see normal rooms

[raw yacht]

in the future will they approve quality of life/cosmetic mods so you don’t have to play in a sandbox save

[oak sparrow]

i think approved mods should be ticked on by default. There's an indicator anyway so the player would know what he's getting into

[shell inlet]

Yes, the devs manually approve stuff so it takes a few days.

[raw yacht]

i don’t see how changing bosco’s sounds changes my progression

[shell inlet]

All mods are sandboxed until the devs change the category.

[sturdy copper]

aight so hear me out

[sharp ledge]

weird... do i have some sort of filter enabled or something? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/172737275296219136/887386440412057650/unknown.png

[sturdy copper]

molly except all the sounds are replaced by voicelines of donkey from shrek

[slate topaz]

when your mods are no more sandboxed, you must manually load not-sandboxed-savegame. this is a VERY important thing no one is saying clearly.

[raw yacht]

also is there any way to see which mods have been approved by the devs? like is there a little icon you can see in the mod list to help you select the ones compatible with a vanilla save file

[shell inlet]

You won't see anything not "safe" for vanilla progression unless you are using some yourself.

Because those types of mods use a different save game.

[pearl dove]

i want a mod that makes everything a goo sac

[weak maple]

Really wish mods that we download from other lobbies are separated into its own list so i can easily find and uninstall them

[pearl dove]

there's goo in that sac!

[faint summit]

Hi, i have 2 questions :

1. Is it normal that my game literally made all keybinds by default the moment i restarted it after installing mods ?
2. It seems the "closer promotion terminal" & "molly customization" terminals aren't appearing in my game. Is there a way to fix that please ?

[shell inlet]

Need blueprint mod manager

[pearl dove]

had the same experience for number 1

[faint summit]

oh

blueprint is a mandatory mod to use specific mods ig ?

[shell inlet]

yes

[faint summit]

Alright that fixed the 2nd point, thanks

regarding the first one idk if that's a thing that happens only once

or if that will actually occur each time i start the game

[pearl dove]

let me fire it back up and i'll let ya know

standby

[faint summit]

Oh also

[pearl dove]

all good. my keybinds are back and stayed back

[faint summit]

i found that the "Metal Gear heightened senses" SFX is labelled as sandbox

Which is kinda weird tbh

[warm pulsar]

I need a pinned message saying that mods default to sandbox and require manual assignment of a category.

[small horizon]

it's new. it will need to be verified by the devs to be assigned to the right category

sandbox is the default until then

[warm pulsar]

Evidently the auto verified system is not functioning and thus should be a #420195388675588096

[true jewel]

include something about if it still says "Aimed for:" it hasn't been vetted yet.

[faint summit]

Oh i expected it to be old

Seems i didn't look well enough

[void bison]

hey im having an issue with modding. Ive only been using verified mods. and im stuck in sandbox mode.

[timid phoenix]

there is literally zero sense in the current categories, and thats what I feared most with this update. Now either you cheat client sided or you have a disadvantage either visually or audible. Not even through the entire audio sections yet but it won't take long until somebody releases no back ground audio or some stupid shit along this side.

[warm pulsar]

did you install the mods through mod.io or manually?

[void bison]

mod.io

[warm pulsar]

all of them have a verified tag and not an aimed for verified tag?

[void bison]

they are verified fully

[warm pulsar]

PM Amanda a zip of your savegames folder.

pinned message for her discord

[void bison]

ok thanks

[simple rain]

how are armor cosmetic (verified) mods handled in-game? Do other players see my glorious new looks or does it auto default to something else?

[nova cedar]

Does starship work on non sandbox?

Because idk if its working for me there

[weak maple]

if you had mods installed previously with the old method of putting them into paks folder, make sure to take those out too

[void bison]

I did but I took them out when I saw the update.

[nova cedar]

Just did a mission and enemy caps seems very low, like haz 1 level

[north phoenix]

Those are completely client-side. If you are running a modded hat, for example, it would just show that you're wearing the normal vanilla hat to everyone else who doesn't also have the mod.

[nova cedar]

Yea I think the regular enemy cap mod is broken so I am using the alternative one

[livid nymph]

How viable is it to do character/weapon changes on a gameplay level? There's a mod I want to make that would involve changing how certain characters/weapons behave.

[small horizon]

you can make alterations to the stats and performance of weapons, and you can shift around mod trees/change mod properties/add OCs

[timid salmon]

well I broke mods they don't download when i subscribe

[stray halo]

Try this #bug-discussion message

It worked for me

[livid nymph]

I'll play around with that, thanks!

But I couldnt, say, add/modify blueprint behavior on a weapon?

[small horizon]

I think you can, but I'm just starting my mod learning so I'm not very knowledgable

be sure to check out the modding discord! they have guides, tools, and a project to share mod source code

and lots of people to help that know more than me

the link is in #fan-communities

[livid nymph]

Appreciate it ^^

[red agate]

the new update is terrible.

[simple rain]

how doth one customize molly in the Fabulous Molly mod? time to sort through a few forums

[severe beacon]

There should be a terminal next to the Bosco upgrade terminal

Looks just like the normal appearance terminal

[simple rain]

I looked up the nexus version to double check its location. it aint there.

let me restart. see if anything helps

[severe beacon]

That should be what you're looking for

[severe beacon]

Hm

That is a problem

[silent forge]

are there any mods to use class specific armor paintjobs on other classes

[simple rain]

a restart added it

[severe beacon]

Noice

[severe beacon]

Not sure

[silent forge]

also weapon paintjobs on armor would be sick

or weapon paintjobs on bosco

[simple rain]

there is a mod to unlock the MK1, MK 2, ect. default paintjob for the other armors

[severe beacon]

I'm just waiting for Mighty Weapons to get fixed

[silent forge]

yeah i have that one

[severe beacon]

It's saying download failed whenever I try to download it :P

[nova cedar]

You got blueprint mod manager installed?

Its required for fabulous molly

[strong garden]

Hey I can't connect steam acct to mod.io, any ideas?

[valid sparrow]

I have a question can you use sandbox mods on your Main save or dose it have to be on another save I want to know so I know if I can mess up my Main save by accidentally using a sandbox mod?

[severe beacon]

No, sandbox mods must be on a separate save

When you download one, you'll be prompted to make another save

You'll keep all your progress you made thus far, but you won't make any more on your main save unless you disable the mod and load the main

[valid sparrow]

okay so I can't accidentally mess up my main save that's good to know

[severe beacon]

Nah youre good

[valid sparrow]

okay I was worried about that so I was apprehensive to try out most mods

[nova cedar]

Yea most mods are non sandbox so you should be good

[daring heron]

Is anyone else having a problem with mods not showing up in game

[nova cedar]

I might be

Idk if starship troopers is working on regular save for me

And the main enemy cap mod doesnt either

But the alternative one seems to

[wild schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/po6wi6/want_to_see_a_full_vr_drg_mod_made_just_help_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Thoughts?

[broken zinc]

is there a mod that lets you drill minerals as driller?

[wild schooner]

Looks very interesting

[shell inlet]

It is possible and has been done but you get no minerals when they are drilled for some reason, which is why there isn't anything for it.

[broken zinc]

alright, i was scratching my head all day

why nobody thought about it

[simple rain]

Battle Droid voice lines for Bosco is the best thing ever!!

[hard owl]

probably asked a thousand times

can i browse available mods ingame?

[severe beacon]

Yea, it just pulls up the browser

So kinda sorta

[hard owl]

doesnt seem to work

can only see ones added by joining modded games

[small horizon]

modding tab, there should be an "install mods"/"manage mods" button in the bottom right

it'll open a steam overlay tab with drg.mod.io

[hard owl]

yeah that button does nothing for me

[small horizon]

do you have steam overlay enabled?

[hard owl]

i need to have steam overlay enabled

yeah

nono i dont have

but yeah thanks

[summer falcon]

Where would someone go to get started making mods? Is there a DRG modding discord or something?

[small horizon]

yes! it's linked in #fan-communities

they have guides, tools, and people willing to help and give feedback

[heady sleet]

12 dreads at the same time while extracting

That was intense

[clear valley]

How do I make my save a non sandbox?

[obtuse depot]

Disable or uninstall all sandbox mods, then manually load your save in Options -> Save Menu.

This includes all mods you have installed manually outside of mod.io.

[heady sleet]

any mods that change the pre-explosion sound of the det to that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpjtBWYifg

Skibbity bop mmm dada

[obtuse depot]

Be the change you want to see in the world.

[heady sleet]

Idk how to mods things.

[obtuse depot]

If you're interested in learning, there's already a guide for it. https://drg.mod.io/guides/drg-mods-a-comprehensive-guide-to-audio-modding

[pulsar blade]

Is it possible to add stuff, atm I only see replacement mods

[void bison]

yeah thats what happened to me though. my main save is stuck in sandbox. i think its a bug or something. I sent my save to Amanda though so hopefully either there is a patch that fixes it or they can fix my save.

[rancid glade]

Here be a question:
Do all mods disable achievements?
Or just sandbox (and approved)?

[rancid iris]

sandbox and approved

verified don't disable achivements

[cursive eagle]

Question, even if on the top right says "modded" this means im using the main save right? The "modded" is just because im using verifeied/approved mods?

[obtuse depot]

It is because you are using Approved mods.

It does not show up if you are only using Verified.

[raw yacht]

my main save is in sandbox, but i have no mods installed anymore; how do i revert my save to a vanilla file so i can actually play pub lobbies

[obtuse depot]

You must manually load your previous save.

[cursive eagle]

Alright, but I can join any server?

[raw yacht]

i can’t

[void bison]

I also have that issue

[marble pagoda]

The only guide on mod.io lists DRGPacker and DRGParser as required tools but google nor Steam are giving me results. Where are these tools?

[raw yacht]

when i try to load a previous save it tells me that i can’t load a sandbox save to a non sandbox save

[obtuse depot]

Did it not prompt you to create a new save file when you first installed Sandbox mods?

[hushed pasture]

there's a DRG modding discord that would be more likely to be able answer that question

[small horizon]

check the modding discord. it's linked in #fan-communities . there's a channel for guides and tools that has those tools

[raw yacht]

yeah it did; i made a new save file for mods which is sandbox, but now my main save file is sandbox too ig

[void bison]

It did for me but when I pushed to create it, it just opened my main save and applied the mods. so im kinda screwed, cant even make a new save

[obtuse depot]

According to this user, there is a workaround that involves duplicating your save file again and resetting progress on one of them. I haven't used it myself, though, so I can't provide any further guidance.

Either way, you should both probably file a bug report.

[raw yacht]

how do you duplicate a save file, can i do that in deep rock

[void bison]

I sent my save to Amanda explaining my situation so that might work out. but Ill try this method and see if it works thanks

[obtuse depot]

Yes, in Options -> Save Menu there should be a button for that.

[raw yacht]

uh, where? i have to options of restoring a save, resetting my progress, saving my current, and loading saves in my save slots

[void bison]

when you push reset progress it only resets the active save right?

[raw yacht]

i don’t see an option to duplicate

[void bison]

just push save and make a new one

"save current"

[obtuse depot]

Correct.

[raw yacht]

That didn’t work, it just made another sandbox save

omg why did i ever download these lol

[void bison]

now how do you "migrate the save file?"

[obtuse depot]

Thaaaat part I'm not so clear on. I think he means saving over it again or copying the file manually in your file system.

[limber bronze]

hey does anyone know where the settings for "Advanced Darkness" can be found?

[small horizon]

press n

should open the blueprint mod manager

[void bison]

OK I found a solution

[limber bronze]

Didn't work :/

[small horizon]

make sure you have blueprint mod manager installed

[limber bronze]

yeah I'm double checking now. I thought I did but I might not have

[void bison]

you will need a backed up save, from the cloud for example of a previous version of your save.

make a new save from your sandbox main save. while your second new copy is active reset its data. THEN you want to restore save data with a older version of the save.

this will create a copy of your main save but without the sandbox.

[sweet portal]

anyone got the m1000 m1 garand ping mod

[dusty lantern]

if you do have it installed, you might need to restart the game

a lot of people are getting issues with first-time installs

[limber bronze]

Okay cool, yeah on the website it says I have it installed, but its not showing up in game, I'll try restarting, thanks

also just so I understand correctly, only sandbox mods require a separate save file and lock you out of regular games right? approved mods don't do that?

[dusty lantern]

correct

[limber bronze]

Awesome, thanks Arctic. Also your suggestion for restarting was exactly what I needed to do.

[spice gust]

Anyone else having performance issues after the recent updates ? Used to be able to play the game on max but now i cant even run medium

[dusty lantern]

Nice. Not sure why it needs to be restarted, but it should be fine after that. Haven't had any reports on the contrary so far. lol

[sweet portal]

i cannot seem to get the mods to work

except for the barrel icons one so far

[astral saffron]

How do I remove mods I had before the update I wana go to my main save but it wont let me while its modded but the mods arent activated

[hushed pasture]

the old mods are in Deep Rock Galactic\FSD\Content\Paks

[astral saffron]

so just delete em

[hushed pasture]

gotta delete those, restart game

[astral saffron]

that was easy

thanks

[hushed pasture]

anyone gotten stuck waiting for your host's mods to download

[heady sleet]

For experimental build do I need to make a separate save for mods?

[sweet portal]

i don't think the exp build is active any more

[jaunty zenith]

Only save I have active is sandbox save, is it possible to restore the old one?

Is it possible to restore the non sandbox save, because its basically fucked over my whole progression

[void bison]

yes there is a method I found just a bit ago

[void bison]

you have to make a second save of your main save. and have that one be active. reset the progress of the second save. and then restore save with a recent non-modded backup.

[jaunty zenith]

Only have the sandbox save that just overwrite my main save

[daring heron]

My mods wont show up in game, has anyone else had this problem and been able to fix it

[vale kindle]

mine too

stuck on this for 15+ mins multiple times, only using verified mods and everything is linked up for me

[limber bronze]

try restarting the game, worked for me.

[vale kindle]

tried that twice, ima give it a few hours then try again

[limber bronze]

weird, sorry to hear that. Good luck!

[pastel nest]

Did GSG follow up what the plans are if I want to have the same mods as the host who's using verified mods?

[oak urchin]

anyone else having issues with having mods installed the old way and having them just stay there

it recreates this folder every time i launch the game

[small horizon]

@finite steeple did you install them thru mod.io?

[oak urchin]

regardless of if i delete it

[shell inlet]

pak directory

not just mods folder

[oak urchin]

wdym?

[shell inlet]

E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Deep Rock Galactic\FSD\Content\Paks

[oak urchin]

oh wait im dumb

i forgot how you installed them lol

yay ty!

[pastel nest]

Personally I think -disablemodding should be an option on the launcher below (-DX11 - DX12) for newbie players who don't know of launch options
Plus maybe being in sandbox mode / save should put the filter on the server browser to 'show sandbox games'

[weak maple]

are the flashlight increased range mods affect other clients too if the host has it? seem to be the case

[shell inlet]

Shouldn't work for clients but the host will see brighter lights.

Unless it is approved?

Then it will.

[weak maple]

hmm interesting. i did join a few earlier and i seem to be affected

yeah it is approved

[shell inlet]

Oh, then, yes.

Because you download the mod to make it work for yourself.

[oak urchin]

wh-

[shell inlet]

Should be verified but it can be used as a client so that might be why it is not since unfair advantage.

[weak maple]

bleh, i wish i could turn off even approved mods..so many nice difficulty lobbies but then get ruined by the increased flashlight 😩

[merry field]

how do I let my friend use the spawn menu

[small horizon]

i dunno why the flashlight mods are so popular

[merry field]

also how do I change my save profile

[finite steeple]

@small horizon Yea mate through the new in game tools.

[small horizon]

sorry, that was from way earlier

[finite steeple]

escape, options, save game @merry field

[small horizon]

i think ser pounce ended up helping ya

[merry field]

thx

[finite steeple]

Ah okay cool 🙂 - yea I loaded my regular save then loaded up ones i thought wouldnt matter like things relating to sound, which works in regular play. so im good with that

[merry field]

also how will balance work with approved mods? couldnt someone just use mod that makes all the caves lit up or something

[shell inlet]

I made that specific mod sandbox since I consider it a cheat.

[merry field]

ye but couldnt someone who didnt consider a cheat make their own cave light mod and call it approved

[shell inlet]

Yes?

But not many people know how to make blueprint mods let alone how to do what I did to make it a thing.

[sweet portal]

can mods be used to cheese achivements? hopefully not

[merry field]

I feel like approved mods could be used to cheese alot of stuff

[small horizon]

The devs haven't been putting things like that in the approved category AFAIK

[echo nest]

speaking of achievements, do approved and sandbox mods PERMANENTLY disable achievements for a savefile? i have just a couple approved mods but i've been working on getting all gold dwarves and i would be really salty if i can't get the achievement now cuz i think fast lootbugs are funny

[sweet portal]

if they did it right, only sandbox mods should disable achievements

[shell inlet]

approved mods disable achievements while active afaik

[echo nest]

as long as it isnt permanent i dont mind that

[gaunt locust]

Is this issue still continue?

[echo nest]

i should sure hope it isnt

[vale kindle]

ill try again after this lol game

[gaunt locust]

If still continue, try these:

1. Unsub to all mods on modio site and delete account
2. Launch game with -disablemodding in launch options
3. Exit to desktop and delete -disablemodding from launch options
4. Go to "C:\Users\YourUser\AppData\Local delete modio folder
5. Go to "C:\Users\Public" delete modio folder
6. (Check "C:\ProgramData" and see if there's a modio folder, if there is - then delete it)
7. Then launch the game

[oak urchin]

can someone help me with this

[gaunt locust]

@oak urchin where did this appear?

[zinc crow]

Can anyone help, the modding menu doesn't even appear, I go to settings>modding>install mods>login with steam>subscribe mods. The modding tab ingame doesn't change, seems mod.io is not connected ingame?

[oak urchin]

it went away?

what

that happened after i installed a bunch of mods

nvm it's still a thing

when i enable all those mods, and then click reload space rig, it does that

well, found a bug. if you press escape when choosing wether or not to delete a save, screen goes completely black and you can't do anything

[gaunt locust]

Delete the others until 1 sandbox save file remains, this happens because you installed sandbox mod

[oak urchin]

i only installed mods that weren't sandbox tho i think

[shell inlet]

Someone had to make a fresh profile to be able to switch back to a vanilla save, apparently they don't show up if on a sandbox save.

[zinc crow]

everytime I subscribe a mod I get this "This mod will be automatically installed when you are logged into mod.io in-game.". But I literally signed in with steam directly after clicking "install mods". How did this shit get through testing?

[waxen copper]

I don't know about you, but I like being able to see further than my hands can reach

You telling me that space dwarves have flashlights less useful than my $10 duracel LED?

my flamethrower shouldn't have a greater range than my flashlight

[gaunt locust]

@zinc crow Do these steps

[stable swan]

I get that light is limited so scout has some role to fill

but its annoying when you don't have a scout and can't do anything about the light problem

esp solo when you are also low on flares

[waxen copper]

especially with that big biocave layout. I can't see anything if no scouts are around

[stable swan]

although I don't really use light mods, I think its a bit unfair

[true jewel]

It doesn't have to make sense, it's for gameplay reasons. Danger. Darkness. Dwarves. (See it's more important then dwarves even!)

[waxen copper]

i don't use them, but i 100% understand people that do

[stable swan]

if I were, i'd probably want to confer some mechanical bonus to scout flares

[obtuse depot]

I like playing solo. Flashlight appeals to me because I don't like playing Scout solo.

[true jewel]

It's approved so you're good you just can't use it somewhere else that doesn't have it.

[waxen copper]

i was hoping it was considered an accessibility thing and would still be allowed clientside

[stable swan]

its in a grey area, but lighting in general is a mechanic that takes resources to get

so I think it should be approved, not verified

[waxen copper]

understandable

[stable swan]

but idk, I'm sure there are visually impared people who would like it as an accessibility optoin

[waxen copper]

if i'm in a 4man, we should have plenty of flares + a scout so it's not that big a deal in group play

[silent forge]

i just opened the game and all of my subscribed mods are gone, and all of the buttons in the modding menu are grayed out

anyone else have this issue?

or does this belong in #bug-discussion

also this pops up when i open the game

[waxen copper]

restart steam?

i've had the occasional time where I'm having network hiccups so my steam cloud isn't updating on time.

don't forget tuesday is steam updates day and it can be unstable, especially with new game patches

[silent forge]

aight thanks

i'll try that out

[waxen copper]

yeah see my steam friend just disconnected