its a PVE game, you hard to say which class is more powerful, the only compare is speedrun
#deep-dive-speedrunning
abstract valley
high sun
the problem with that is... mobility
abstract valley
if have to nerf base on 'power', scout and driller go first
cause two of them did better on speedrun
high sun
driller and scout have the best mobility tools, hence why they are the top on speed run
only time where engie gets a close, is when there are defenses and dreads
and that is due to map ending up really close and clustered
unborn mirage
Speedruns are (for the moment) a fringe part of the gameplay. Would be weird to nerf classes on their basis. Much more likely you see changes based on the core gameplay loop as its played by most players, no?
abstract valley
yeah thats basically what I mean, its hard to say which class is powerful cause you cant confront other players on the core gameplay
‘feeling’ is inaccurate, we need data or stats, like win rate or something
but its a PVE game
high sun
the other problem is... how many of the players play on haz5 , how many of those stay as scout mains outside of solo
cursive iron
Scout or gunner/engineer or driller group herein
2/4
We keep failing the 2nd/shield disruption on edd
Is there someone Who could Help us out or wanna join?:)
formal sigil
What system you playing? How many people youu got running with you?
gilded nebula
Deep Dive!
gilded nebula
Deep Dive Elite!
tough fulcrum
sonic moss
drop pod automatically opens up around 10-15 seconds remining. There's also a failsafe on salvage missions.
proper wasp
any tips for the EDD?
oak kayak
salvage missions and bulk detonators dont mix 😦
dapper willow
for the easy deep dive this week, here's a roadmap
cloud elk
I don't know if i can sub 20.i think it's hard.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ct4y197hM/
cloud elk
of course,M1000:MINIMAL CLIPS 2 1 1 2 1 JURY-RIGGED BOOMSTICK:JUMBO SHELLS 1 1 3 1 1
cursive iron
thank you!
heavy obsidian
Tried a driller run, this week is crazy
rigid hull
first DD solo run ever
not meant to be a speed run
was blind and I never play solo
got both detonators before I started the uplinks
so the defense was ez
karmic trout
Now time to grind that time down 
grave dawn
me and my team cant even get past the first obj on elite how are yall speed running it solo in 20 mins lmao
dim ginkgo
glacial raven
People do 20 min because they know the map and do only the objectiv and get out asap
rigid hull
solo makes enemies 1/4th as hard and also gives a robot that can fly, gab ore, shoot electric bullets, and fire rockets. Oh and he can revive.
also spawn rates scale so when you get overwhelmed a few high power gadgets or large ammo use usually solves the issue
cold widget
Okay, this brings up something I've been asking for awhile @rigid hull is it 1/4 difficulty when compared to a 4 man party?
rigid hull
no
because you only have 1 man
BUT
you do get more for each resupply despite non scout classes having a harder time spotting nitra
cold widget
Thank you.
rigid hull
also when difficulty increases but you have to share ammo more and coordination becomes key, 4 people can be harder
cold widget
Okay, so my main question is, is doing solo similar in terms of bug difficulty to the amount of work I'd do in a 4 man squad?
Because while the link @sonic moss posted covers hazard levels, it doesn't go into player numbers
sonic moss
yes it does
sonic moss
cold widget
Ah, thank you, and apologies for being a bit blind there
So, it's not that much of a drop off then as I though.
Thank you both again
echo moth
talked in the wrong chat and just realized, my b
acoustic shadow
anyone know what the modifiers are for the deep dives?
cursive iron
Second of edd is low oxygen
acoustic shadow
thanks.
acoustic shadow
thanks again
karmic trout
Should get that Google doc pinned in here tbh
ember pecan
Google doc?
unborn mirage
Thats cool.
plain cargo
All done, pretty smooth this week
tender light
I only did one run of the edd so far
clocked 31 mins
i think im gonna try getting like 20 maybe
unborn mirage
Dark morkite should help a lot with that this week
cloud elk
Yes, there are three stages of morkit.
plain cargo
Morkite!
warm wharf
For being a Darklord your game looks pretty bright.
unborn mirage
I didnt even notice that before ._.
outer verge
This week's EDD and Ed were very very easy. Disclaimer. I've got 810h in this game. I'm a nerd.
I really wanted the black box to work on the stage 3 ED. But nipe.
Oh wait speed run chat. Wrong place. Sorry.
glacial raven
accidental succes, not accidental speedrun
unborn mirage
The gentlest of shade 😄
cloud elk
I think we can be faster. Because we didn't drink beer . If it's dark morkite, it will improve a lot
The following video is from the perspective of driller and I
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nz411e765/
glacial raven
for that time did you try stage 1 to " controle" the drop pod to make it spawn on the mule and stage 2 each of the dwarf go solo a dread ? or it was a waste of time ?
cloud elk
All the times I've tried, drop pod is at the beginning.I don't think he will change his position in the first stage.
I've tried every dwarf to kill one.But one problem is that one of the dreams has a very small space.My friends and I sometimes fall.Because the oxygen is thin, you need oxygen, which is not convenient for you.
heavy obsidian
WR lads
unborn mirage
intentional death or nah?
heavy obsidian
at the very no, it was at the end, couldn't res so just ended
glacial raven
i had no chance to survive 
spare torrent
wow, nice
abstract valley
EZ sub 10
cloud elk
hhh，It's too fast.
tender light
On this topic
Would it really be fair to accept speedrun WRs in the current deep dive?
It has no black box like 99% of the time, and that bug probably wont happen again. Sounds kinda cheaty and unfair to people who missed this week
tender light
deep dive speedruns are a thing, no? @glacial raven
dont they track the WR in it too?
glacial raven
for this week it's useless to say fair or not if 99% of the time you don't have the black box for the normal deep dive, also it's the WR for this week only not for all the normal deep dive since there is a salvage + PE
heavy obsidian
maybe @tender light but we hold the WR for regular DD too
tender light
pog
cold widget
was q mining nerfed or removed from the game completely?
i get a placebo effect where i think it makes me mine slightly faster but it probably doesn't
karmic trout
Removed a long time ago iirc. You can still animation cancel kinda' by letting go of right click after the pickaxe strikes. It's not a major improvement like q mining but it can save a bit of time if you don't cancel the animation too early and negate the strike entirely.
cold widget
yeah that's what i was thinking
abstract valley
@glacial raven @heavy obsidian its a funny team, i dont know them, but they said that they beat you cuz 4 men run is harder than 2 men
What do you think about it
They don’t look like joking
heavy obsidian
Then don’t do it if it’s harder
abstract valley
LOL basically they think one man run should get better time
but they dont wanna do one man run to prove it
heavy obsidian
That’s also fake news. Maybe last stage but first and second I don’t think that much, one man beating 9:25 is reaaaally tough I think
But sub 10 maybe yeah
abstract valley
they cant even sub 10 with 4 men, i consider that one men beating 9:25 is not doable for them
but one man sub 10 is doable, maybe reaaaaaally tough
heavy obsidian
Because you can’t make the drop pod fall on molly and stage 1 & 3 and that’s a big time saver, I think that’s where you lose more time
heavy obsidian
Sub 7 OMEGALUL, no, 4 men is almost the same, they lose time on stage 2 because the bosses are tankier and you don’t get that much time on stage 3. Best time for 2 men with the perfect run is 8:59 so maybe but yeah.
abstract valley
what if the team has big bertha+lead spray gunner, i think that can save maybe at least 30secs, even the dreadnought tankier
and gunner's shield will charge each stage because of the bug
glacial raven
Impossible to sub 10 alone since on duo you gain time because you are 2 doing the objectic and drop pod spawn
For a 4 men speedrun they win a lot of time stage 1 and 3 but stage 2 if they don't know how to kill the dreadnaught as a team it's a lot of time lost
abstract valley
if the team has 4 Silaises, what time it will get?
yea if one man run, the drop pod spawn will be a problem, but i still believe if someone makes zero mistake, like DRG AlphaGo or something, sub 10theoretically is doable.
beautiful dream😄
abstract valley
hopefully
haughty ravine
glacial raven
@forest hull can you delete this ? thing like that are not welcome on the discord
grand bough
@thin whale pls delete @forest hull post
forest hull
yum
glacial raven
thanks
cold widget
@agile juniper your account had me almost dead at work. Best account ever.
Just had to say that.
agile juniper
@cold widget Thanks, I plan to buy this game when the steam summer sale goes live. Anyways thanks a lot.
cloud elk
My friend DTEVE and I set a new record!
Scout and driller are really good partner！
This video below has a dual view of DTEVE and me.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dz411i7h1#reply3079911137
glacial raven
where can we see the driller pov ? can't see the dual view
abstract valley
@glacial raven you can switch to driller pov on page upper right
glacial raven
found it after clicking everywere x)
glacial raven
it worked
since the hotfix there is small change on the map that help
but i don't know if we can beat that time with zh0s
abstract valley
i didnt do speedrun this week, what map changed?
abstract valley
oh i got it
glacial raven
when the first deep dive rush happened on the french discord we had the halloween update hotfix and the map changed a lot x)
so this time it's small change the run doesn't change so much
glacial raven
don't know if he is up to with his finals
i finished mine yesterday but for him don't know
abstract valley
glacial raven
and you don't wanna try to do a time this week ?
abstract valley
I'm traveling, this week I feel like I don't have time to do a good time
traveling is not a good word
Vacation is better
xD
glacial raven
Ho good vacation ^^
I hope one day we are gonna get real server so we can play without ping would be nice
abstract valley
yea hopefully😄
glacial raven
It's sad we don't have more time to beat madel and Dteve but we did the same time without beer 
safe axle
What class is the guy on the left
tender light
@safe axle driller
abstract valley
LOL same time
cloud elk
OK， new record 8:15
I'll post the video later
@glacial raven
random lily
omg just as zh0s and silaise got it omg
heavy obsidian
I wish we had more time to battle because this EDD is so fun to speedrun, especially in competition
safe axle
Hot DAMN
Just watched ur 8:32 mission earlier, love the second you guys took to pet the golden loot bug lol
How does one start getting into speed running? Are there leaderboards for this stuff?
Are there classes that you should stay away from completely?
high sun
there isnt a leader board, getting used to completing objectives in haz5 quickly is what I would usually recommend to get the handle on it
as for classes, the one that proven themselves are the one with the best traversal meaning scout and driller
snow jackal
Where can i watch cuz jeeeeeez
undone loom
i couldn't do more
cloud elk
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dz411i7h1/ 8:15 WR In P3
unborn mirage
this is last week's?
glacial raven
Yes
glacial raven
and it's sad we can't save the old DD to do them later because it's possible to do 8:00/sub 8
unborn mirage
Ye adding the option to run a a DD based on a seed the player enters sounds cool. That way you can rerun cool seeds for record attempts
glacial raven
yep
glacial raven
is someone gonna try to speedrun this week dd or edd ?
unreal ginkgo
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21 years old, the microphone is working.
tender light
at least someone tried to speedrun it
high sun
tbh it was a lazy attempt just to say I did it
lime cove
Nice! Especially as a engineer!
tender light
for a speedrun this is not really @high sun
but like
no ones gonna seriously speedrun this edd
at least it doesnt look like it
third and second stage are kinda disgustin
it lasts like 15 mins longer than usual
high sun
my main issue was digging out the tunnel for extracting on the first stage tbh
the 3rd stage is okish, aslong as you dont tell bosco to try and bring the aquarq from the swarmers nest
the 2nd stage though... so much rng with the eggs swarm
tender light
my main issue was digging out the tunnel for extracting on the first stage tbh
@high sun just platform your way out of it
when i first tried this mission i just minecrafted my way out of there using the wall
high sun
that is what I do, just tunnel down so I can exit after mining the morkite
because then I dont have to tunnel up during the swarm
tender light
Oh
@high sun i actually rode last stage
Its more effective to just go all the way down and platform spam your way up
empty stratus
Guys we failed the Deep Dive after nearly 2 Hours and like the last hour of this with tousand of grunts that keept despawning because they were to many. Stage 3 is fucking stupid if you dont got a fast team und kill the dread in the beginning xD
at on the xp and money site we got good at the end xD
best game that i had to be honest
tranquil trench
this was the most intense edd i've ever had playing deeprockgalactic - highly intense shit ! rock and stone to the bone ! (~JustAwesome)
unborn mirage
that brightness though
wraith flax
sorry for shitty quality and also it's not a speedrun xD
but yea this weeks Elite is tough
earnest wing
What happened to the quality
safe axle
I like it
Reminds me back when 3D graphics were so bad, your imagination kinda patched the picture together
tender light
What happened to the quality
@earnest wing 0% resolution scaling
idle citrus
This reminds me so much of original Starcraft! It's totally better this way. Makes we want to try doing this to other images, 0% resolution you say...
earnest wing
@tender light is that what their entire game looks like?
sonic moss
UI elements and menus are at the native resolution. Everything else is scaled down drastically.
tender light
@earnest wing i think so
ges
*yes
I play at like 30% scaling
It looks alright
But go too low and...
sonic moss
If I had to take a guess, I’d say that’s somewhere around 480p (0% scaling), but don’t quote me in that.
high sun
nearly sub 30 :/
sage delta
Guys could you help with advice - how to cancel the pickaxe animation while mining?
high sun
its a practice of releasing the right click early
sage delta
so I hold the right click and unhold earlier?
high sun
that is what I do atleast
glacial raven
it's useless to mine thing like that it's not faster just a feeling
but against enemis it work
unborn mirage
This. It doesn't mine faster (anymore)
tender light
Its great against enemies
high sun
this week isnt too bad
fallen thistle
Dam sub 30
true karma
I did my first solo today and got 58 minutes
I didn't realize they sent Bosco with you, this is rad
glacial raven
Sub 16/17 maybe possible but it's "boring" to tryhard because there is a lot of mactera and that's making me tilt
cloud elk
I will continue to try and do better
long gyro
So is this sub just for the EDD or does regular count
earnest wing
Both
long gyro
well, we did our 2nd ever DD with a 3 man crew and finished in 48 mins compared to our first of about 1hr 10 min. I think were going to see if we can get sub 45 next
long gyro
3 man 2nd DD ever
we probs could of been sub 45 but we took our time getting extra gold cause we were all low on credits
abstract panther
oooh my team got around 42 mins on this weeks deep dive
long gyro
now are there different time categories for each class? I kinda wanna be a mad man and try with my driller
warm yarrow
they never listened, you are a mad man.
cloud elk
Maybe sub 15.But it's hard.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iC4y187K7
glacial raven
do you have a run without dark morkite ?
cloud elk
Yea, I made two plans. dark morkite and without dark morkite.
glacial raven
this time dark morkite make a lot of difference
and the beer is reset every 30 min -_-
by the way you don't have a spitballer stage 3 ?
cloud elk
I didn't touch it. So it didn't attack me
glacial raven
ok i check and we don't have the same seed stage 3
my egg are 3 in the room and 1 close to the spawn, the mini mule are really close and a spitballer between them
and no breeder
cloud elk
Oh, I've tried many times, and there's a breeder every time.
glacial raven
i think with my seed you could do a better time since everything is close
but harder since you have the two minimule wave + the egg if you go to fast x)
cloud elk
emmm, i'm sorry. there was a mistake in my answer just now. I have dark morkite in this run.
glacial raven
i know there is dark morkite i saw the run ^^
cloud elk
long gyro
so what Im hearing is, if I do it as a driller it be a first lol
glacial raven
what ?
unborn mirage
Driller sees some play for speedruns @long gyro , its not as common as scout but its probably the second most common choice I see come by in this channel
heavy obsidian
16:01 Today. Almost a sub 16 NO BEER
quick peak
@heavy obsidian really? No photoshop? It took us four dwarves 1h 24h. Hahahahaha 😅
quick peak
@heavy obsidian so insane dude. 🙂
warm yarrow
lvl 445 my god
grave sand
glacial raven
Can do sub 16 but the edd is cursed, rng with menace/bulk/40 grabber without sound
tidal kettle
i managed to do a dive in 40 mins today and got the under 45 mins 'chievement
safe axle
Why does it say Forevr on your class?
surreal shadow
leaden condor
is there some kind of character level reset? I don’t see how he could be level 19 driller but have 900 xp levels. i’m xp level 6 and level 16 engineer
urban lark
Yes, every time you promote your character levels resets to 1
leaden condor
There is no penalty?
novel plover
not that i have seen only a lvl reset back to 1
and i got my engi promo 1 lvl 22 or so
novel plover
some are nice some are less nice ^^
ruby wadi
Tbh useful only 1st promotion on each character
novel plover
I know but I'm a engi main xD
glacial raven
he he he thanks dark morkite
safe axle
Hey Silaise, how much does the plasma pistol help you for mining on speed runs?
glacial raven
for the joke i would say 7
But the epc + tcf help for nitra/morkite mining when it's not on the ground or it's a big vein if you don't have dark morkite. It help for aquarq+egg if there is a good placement for that
and if you want to see the run https://www.twitch.tv/videos/672683088
unborn mirage
gratz on the sub 15 Silaise
unborn mirage
what build did you run on your EPC?
long gyro
I wannna start attempting solo and group speed runs what are some tips you all can give me. (For solo I wish to be crazy and use my driller)
unborn mirage
(not so crazy, this driller above you literally got best time for this weeks EDD)
safe axle
I’m willing to try grouping for speed runs at some point. Still working on the basics for a bit though. I don’t exactly smooth sail EDDs all the time
long gyro
my group only recently unlocked it. First one we did in 1hr 7 mins. We did a 3 man one last Friday coming in @ 48min. We probs would of been sub 45 but we were gold greedy
safe axle
Yah, I haven’t done better than mid 40s...last weeks I didn’t even beat third stage tbh
Almost all of mine have been solo since my group isn’t quite there yet
earnest wing
I get 30 average on dd and 35 for edd
safe axle
I’m playing engie tho
earnest wing
Engie is probably best all around class
long gyro
@earnest wing what FPS do you run it on?
earnest wing
Best carrying class
long gyro
yea but only my driller is promoted to do DD/EDD
safe axle
It’s great all round, but my return time to the pod is shit
long gyro
so running at a lower frame rate doesn't account for anything
earnest wing
I have meh pc
safe axle
I actually die sometimes trying to return solo
long gyro
cause I know when speed running some games on PC you want to lower the FPS or the graphics
earnest wing
What?
long gyro
like in RE2, you want to lower the graphics and drop the frame rate to 30 FPS
when speed running it, I was curious of that was needed for DRG or not
earnest wing
For deep rock you want best fps possible
And i guess better res and lower graphics might be good?
long gyro
well, I guess that will be something I tinker with
glacial raven
i speedrun with everything on ultra but low on shadow and it's fine if you have a potato PC you can lower it it's not really important in drg
the important part when you speedrun : mapping, decision when it's hell, not give up
high sun
also needs to remember, the road to mastering can have fails
so do not give up if you fail several time at first
glacial raven
@unborn mirage for the epc build : 2-3-2-1-2 with energy rerouting
unborn mirage
Awesome, thanks!
long gyro
most awesome, thank you for the tips and I know I will fail. Im a terrible gamer! I think first were going to focus on team DD speed runs and then I will attempt a few solo. Does the game scale depending on players in DD
unborn mirage
Yes, depending on your team solo might feel a lot easier or a lot harder compared to 4stacks
I'd say that in general its easier to solo than to two-man though.
glacial raven
to start speedrun duo is maybe the best thing because it's the same healf for most of the enemis including dreadnaught as solo and you have a friend to help you think about what to do
long gyro
is there always a morkite mission in the deep dives?
tender light
No
long gyro
but still take the dark morkite drink just in case?
sonic moss
It depends
If there’s a mining mission it may be worth it. Usually there’s a post in #deep-dive-discussion or on reddit with the stage objectives.
high sun
usually if there are atleast 2 morkite objectives it makes it much easier, if a morkite is a big objective, it can cut down the stage by a fair some
long gyro
solo speed run, what perks am I looking to run? also I have all slots for my driller
unborn mirage
Iron will seems like a staple, same with deep pockets
glacial raven
dash/iron will for the actif and deep pocket/quick ressuplyer/veteran depositor for passif
unborn mirage
i think every single sub 20 ive seen on this discord has used iron will bad turtle
glacial raven
for the actif you can swap with other thing like iron will + see you in hell
for the passif it depend of the map and mission
long gyro
thoughts on using born ready?
cause im thinking born ready, deep pockets and resupply for passive
then dash and see you in hell
unborn mirage
I can't stress how good iw is enough, but I'm a 25 minute runner so take that bow you will
unborn mirage
Iw isnt for the revive, it's because it makes you immortal for 12 seconds
So you can hand in eggs or resupply under pressure
long gyro
can <@&296918282403840000>
jeez some people
@unborn mirage that can be clutch
Guess this will be one of those things I need to do multiple runs with to see what works. I'll start with IW since I have that maxed out
unborn mirage
Zh0s recently did a stream showing how he mapped out a speedrun. He plays scout but the general process of choosing where to resupply etc was really helpful to me
dusky moon
tender light
yes agreed
odd zinc
"darkness isn't our friend"
cold widget
Curious, are there any specific builds for driller that lend itself better to speedruns?
fringe falcon
Hello, what's the fastest way to level scout solo?
Assuming no x2 xp missions are avaiable
glacial raven
there is 2 way :
1= you play on any hazard and you do the mission fast like 4egg/2 dread/200 morkite if you can do them under 5 min it's good but not really fun
2= if you have the deep dive available speedrun the stage 1 and abort some week you can do them in 3-4min and it give you everytime good xp/credit
but it's not how you are supposed to play the game for it to be fun
fringe falcon
@glacial raven hmm are elim missions fast? I wouldnt do them with scout
morkite & egg make more sense
morkite seems the most straightforward
glacial raven
with scout full damage shotgun + m1000 you destroy them
you can do it on haz1-2-3 it's sub 4min if the map is not bad
glacial raven
if you start the game
fringe falcon
So it's not really exactly speedrunning
glacial raven
don't try to rush xp it's " useless"
fringe falcon
Just want to lvl my scout quickly using speedrun strats
glacial raven
since you have a lot of assignement to do
glacial raven
ok
glacial raven
do egg or morkite it's gonna be the fastest
just grapple everytime there is a lot of enemis close and you survive
fringe falcon
I'm not too good at grappling + hover yet
so I'll go with morkite for now
seems harder to mess up
unborn mirage
I find you can do point extractions really fast solo
I guess it's probably slower than the 4 minutes silaise is giving, but it's also a lot easier
Just Ctrl click bosco 4 times and dig 3 aquarqs yourself and you're done
fringe falcon
morkite really doesn't feel faster than alternatives
I did a h3 aquarqs pub and we finished in 8min, morkite always takes longer
long gyro
what do we have for DD this week? I'm going to do some of my first pratice runs this Sunday/Monday
heavy obsidian
my time for the EDD (didn't try DD) my stream crashed during the last run so no record of it 
Oh and this is Solo too (scout)
glacial raven
@long gyro the dd this week is easy, morkite + egg / dreadnaught + mini mule / egg + dreadnauhgt
long gyro
thank you
glacial raven
if everything is "good" you should do between 15-20 min since you start speedrunning
long gyro
@heavy obsidian attempted to catch you the past two days but its super early for me im American EST
well this will be my first attempt Im hoping for under 50 mins
heavy obsidian
yep a lot of Americans have been telling me about it, usually I stream for longer but the streams is undergoing changes atm ( not permanent tho ) but glad to see you like it 
long gyro
first ever solo speed run attempt with driller!
to give context my first ever one full crew 1hr 7 mins 2nd one ever 3man 48 mins
hallow dirge
Can you do Elite Dive Solo?
urban lark
Yeah, there's nothing stopping you
long gyro
Have not tried the elite yet
just wrapped up for tonight, when back to see where I could do things better
the first time was going in blind to the Deep Dive without practice
tender light
Can you do Elite Dive Solo?
@hallow dirge provided theres no haunted cave, edd is pretty solo friendly
bosco charges revive each stage
i generally find solo easier than trying my luck in pubs lol
long gyro
yea I was kinda surprised the revives recharged with each stage didn't expect that. Lot I still have to learn I didn't even expect to get sub 45 mins. So for the first to be that, I think I can work for sub 30 on DD at least
glacial raven
if you want advice or pathing for the normal dd this week you can ask to do the sub 30
long gyro
well alot of my screw up where I spent time fighting when I shouldn't have and those damn eggs. Also a cave leach or 4
hallow dirge
Well @tender light I tried solo edd and died stage 2 because of grabbers + sharks
tender light
happens
hot warren
Any tips for a relative beginner to solo EDD with scout?
I have negligible overclocks
unborn mirage
As a speedrun or just to finish it at all?
hot warren
Just... to... finish
unborn mirage
You can generally play what weapons your comfortable with. I heavily recommend iron will: this way you can excavate a bunch of eggs under pressure and then hand them all in using the 12 seconds immortality, even if you're being attacked. Beast master is a good perk if there's nothing else you like more. Playwise, if youre struggling on any edd try and mine as much nitra as possible on early stages so you can focus on just doing the objectives on hard stages. For scout you can keep running away while you make bosco do objectives, for this stage 2 try and get the mules repaired first as those are way harder to do as the map goes on
Edd has a pretty steep learning curve, but you'll get there :)
hot warren
Bosco can't do black box either right?
hot warren
Shoud I not run cryo? I'm having trouble getting weakshots on the larger enemies solo
or shoud I just aim for the mouth
I'm running deepcore + shotgun
unborn mirage
Cryo isnt bad, but you only get 4 and they're gone when you throw em. You can run out before you finish the uplink
And shooting praetorians in the mouth can be acceptable if it's too hard to get around em
Shooting a praetorian in the mouth with the shotgun will usually stop it from spitting at you, too
Honestly though if youre comfortable with cryo it's probably fine
hot warren
yeah I can't even get past lvl 1s black box
I die before the detonator even spawns
Theres too much trash
staying in the area is prettry hard
tender light
theres not always a detonator
@hot warren you can safely fail black boxes
unlike uplinks they dont end the mission
you just gotta restart
unborn mirage
Til
hot warren
til
slate bobcat
I failed the black box with scout but made a ditch around it with driller and helped a lot
pearl violet
wait this is deep dive oop
heavy obsidian
I find cryos to be better for holding points with scout, why?
Because if you get an oppressor in ur pretty much f*ed so 2 cryos and a Jumbo Shell shotgun shot and he’s out
tender light
you can do the same with ifg but a bit slower and significantly less cost
like it goes from 1/2 of your nades to 1/6 of your nades
i dont think it would have much effect on an uplink
i'd still rather take cryos for normal grunts / uplinks or bb anyways cause they fast
safe axle
What’s your guys strategy on speed running with a BET-C on the map. Just avoid it at all costs?
tender light
ye
unborn mirage
Depending on the mission it's not a huge deal if you trigger Her, the recent edd stage 3 with haunted PE it really didn't matter if she was active or not
undone wedge
warm wharf
Really? Don't think I have had the opportunity to test that.
glacial raven
Yes you can
unborn cosmos
Do you still get rewards?
tender light
Do you still get rewards?
@unborn cosmos no, you are forced to restart the objective and try again
unborn cosmos
ooh ok
real spade
My fastest was 33m on my first time
wheat hamlet
Probably an easy question for most speedrunners, but is it actually 100% confirmed that letting go of the left mouse mid pickaxe swing saves time? I was doing it a while ago for quite some time, and I never felt a huge difference, if any tbh.
warm wharf
It saves a tiny amount of time but adds up a little bit the more you do it.
Something like mining 4 things of magma core stone with canceling gives 0.5 - 1 second in savings.
If you mess up the cancel at any point though it kind of ruins it.
For melee it makes it a lot faster.
wheat hamlet
Thank you @unborn mirage and @warm wharf . I had a feeling it was a very small amount.
cloud elk
This week is crazy.
hot warren
wow
heavy obsidian
Sub 25 Solo this Week, last stage took 15 
lament prairie
nice
lament prairie
is this an alright time for this week's normal deep dive? this is my first time trying to speedrun solo
had to do a lot of waiting with two black boxes unfortunately
glacial raven
it's not an optimal time, but it's not bad for a first time
lament prairie
ended up getting faster on gunner. stage 1 and 3 were pretty sloppy though
glacial raven
didn't try to speedrun this week dd but the time for each stage should be around :
Stage 1: 4-7min
Stage 2: 5-8min
Stage 3: 5-8min
if you focus only the objectif and no enemis on the way
lament prairie
i'll try to keep those times in mind
so in theory i should be getting something between 14-23 minutes, yeah?
this'll probably be my last attempt for today
nimble crescent
This week is crazy.
@cloud elk 厉害😂
I still haven't had the courage to do edd this week yet
And y'all be under 20 min
hidden saffron
elite deep dive any one?
sullen apex
try #lfg-steam
long gyro
doing my runs tonight for the DD/EDD first run for each will be the first attempt, dont even know the missions
long gyro
best I could muster last night with the run as my drille was 37 min. Between the bulk donators and multiple preds I got my ass handed to me
glacial raven
@lament prairie i did the speedrun with engi and ended with 19:09
stage 1 = sub 5 easy
stage 2 = 6 min for my best time
stage 3 = 8-9 min with a platform glitch so for the time i told you,
it's sub 20 with driller/engi but maybe impossible with gunner/scout
lament prairie
Platform glitch?
long gyro
@glacial raven did you use dark morkite?
glacial raven
yes but it doesn't gain a lot of time
the platforme glitch = you dig a wall, spam platforme and you fall on the map to the last room
long gyro
well I did my best to make sub 30 this week but that didnt happen
although I just go in blind with minimal planning
lament prairie
ohhh
safe axle
Hey @glacial raven what do you mean by ‘spam platform’ I’ve been trying to get this to work for a while
glacial raven
spam platforme to cover all your dwarf
and walk
and make sure to dig a little hole to fit your dwarf
plain echo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564752575115558925/735678047855837264/unknown.png
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Karl Would Be Proud Solo Speedrun booiss
sadly i now realize that this is for deep dives and not general speedruns
oh well. looking forward to speedrunning deep dives solo now
frigid oar
F
long gyro
man I hope to get below sub 30 soon
glacial raven
it's easy, just do a run to find a pathing
and when you find the pathing do it but faster
agile juniper
Not bad, at least its under sub 30 eh.
agile juniper
long gyro
Had a lot of molly issues at extraction probs can do better
heavy obsidian
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got em
long gyro
Shaved some time off my latest run had some bad RNG also molly kept getting stuck on stage one. This week is a wash for my runs. Video of the run/clip of molly coming soon
alpine orchid
Slowly getting more comfortable and less clumsy than my last solo EDD so yay me 😄
wild shore
I'm pretty sure there are, and there is a discord specifically for speedrunning this I think?
Yea, it's in #fan-communities
unborn mirage
Zh0s frequently maps out his routes on stream, i think he usually does it on saturdays or sundays
glacial raven
you always need to map the path for the speedrun
ps: the speedrun discord about drg is only about normal mission not deep dive
heavy obsidian
@hot warren a mapping is kinda personal, not that it shouldn’t be shared, but that it might not be the ultimate best at first sight but it can help if you need for yours. And I don’t post plans because it’s a nightmare to explain everything by message so as @unborn mirage said, I just do mine for myself on stream and go by that
unborn mirage
Ye i think the main advantage of watching others comes from learning what to look out for while mapping. You'll invariably have to adjust your route on the go to respond to some unlucky spawn or other so getting the basics of mapping down is pretty valuable, even if you copy most of your route directly
long gyro
The more you run the DD/ED the easier it will be to learn.
glacial raven
if you want to map a path just go all over the map without doing the objectiv, check what's the fastest way to go to the objectiv, and check each morkite/nitra spot to know wich one to take or not and when
heavy obsidian
There is some advice that you can apply to mapping in general: what I do for Nitra is try to take it on the way back to the drop pod to press the button as fast as possible and use that time for extra nitra after.
tender light
this one should be pretty easy to speedrun
the mini mules in s1 and the s3 eggs are right next to eachother
unborn mirage
ye i think i did s3 sub5 minutes on the first run, goign in blind
low grav meant you could actually get the 3 aquarqs down the cliff up to the minehead super easily byourself
heavy obsidian
Bad Cell speedrun is in #drg-videos
merry hedge
1st try, no bosco. will try again for better rng but still happy with it
glacial raven
Stage 1 is "bad" since all the mini mule are close, you are gonna trigger thz spawn for all of them when you repair thz first
sullen apex
also makes it faster
glacial raven
nope, it's not faster to do everything with 60 glyphid on you
shell ginkgo
"no bosco run" when can i make this into a t-shirt?
merry hedge
no robots doing all the work, taking jobs from hardworking dwarves like us
sullen apex
nope, it's not faster to do everything with 60 glyphid on you
i would think fighting all the enemies at the same time is better than doing it 1 by 1 also pulling mule legs spawn enemies so you still control how many things spawn
unborn mirage
thing is tho, if theyre further apart you can trigger all the enemies at once but then go back and forward hetween the mules to repair them while the bugs are running across the world to chase you
tender light
nope, it's not faster to do everything with 60 glyphid on you
@glacial raven our experience concludes its way faster
additionally driller is a bit of a must for this one, and driller has c4
our current strat is leave him there with mules as engi goes to mine morkite with fatboy
tender light
@safe axle nice chat
cloud elk
maybe sub 21
stark hollow
nice!
glacial raven
autumn barn
Can you solo the EDD?
sacred pier
@autumn barn yes you can, its easier on solo
safe axle
@autumn barn Are you joking? There’s literally pictures of people soloing it in this chat, directly above you
autumn barn
@safe axle I am not much for solo playing hence why I asked
safe axle
Oh, I see. Sorry i couldn’t tell if it’s sarcasm
Yes, the pictures everyone posted above is them soloing EDD on record times
sharp flax
Is there a top record for the fastest run of a elite deep dive?
glacial raven
the fastest was made by madel and dteve with a 8:15 with dark morkite on duo
solo it's zhos with a 14:18
for a 4 man speedrun CA and his friends did a sub 14 but i can't remember the time exaclty ( Edit : 13:46)
heavy obsidian
Mine was actually 14:18
glacial raven
i tought you were better x)
warm wharf
Mine was 10 seconds for solo, could have gone faster if I wanted to.
long gyro
may just be the DD but my first sub 30 feels great!
sullen apex
heavy obsidian
Nice ! Grats
long gyro
Thank you @heavy obsidian
humble totem
@glacial raven is that the all time EDD record or just this weeks ?
glacial raven
the best of " all time"
if you want eech week just scrool, if you want what's the best ever done ask we can answer but the fastest of all time means nothing if that week the EDD was a fast objectiv and easy map
echo crag
I wouldn't call this a speedrun, but my first ever Deep Dive that I ever did I believe I did in 42 or 43 minutes.
humble totem
this weeks had so much nitra its ridiculous
our first run we ended at like 700+ nitra
and we didnt even clear the 3rd stage
plain cargo
Gunner run, 800+ kills with Neurotoxin payload
silver copper
Good god, how do you play the game so Bright?
plain cargo
brings out the bright side in me, lol
sullen apex
jfc
deep sinew
Scouts running with high gamma is why we often don't get proper flares
safe axle
That makes so much sense
long gyro
first sub 25 speed run as the driller solo
glacial raven
Gg sub 20 when ?
long gyro
I think probs next week. I wont have time to run more this week
heavy obsidian
Record on today's stream
long gyro
Hell yes Zhos!
graceful dew
1 gold collected XD
long gyro
do peeps turn up the Gamma to see the Morkite better?
earnest wing
it's a speedrunning strat
long gyro
seems kinda I dunno cheap?
earnest wing
keep you from having to use flares
well, it's in the game and they're gonna use everything to their advantage
long gyro
No, I get that
glacial raven
the gamma is like that because i can't see my weapon on my laptop
it's not for speedrun strat x)
long gyro
you can't see your gun?
glacial raven
yea the screen is shit
glacial raven
since you know where is the morkite / how many you need and where you get it, gamma is useless
it can help if you are blind
glacial raven
i think i am the only one with you mortaldrill
or the other never post the time her
sullen apex
his gamma isnt even that high
you can get close to that with certain settings
just lowering a bunch of video settings will make ending screen and space rig bright asf
regal bear
Here's my attempt at speedrunning this week's Deep Dive, almost didn't get the Sub 30 😅
long gyro
@glacial raven gotcha, Im still leveling up my scout but I think at the end of the day Im sticking to driller for my runs
safe axle
Eventually I’ll be here trying to post speedruns for my gunner+scout team...
Get ready @lilac crow lol
kindred warren
how the hell are people getting such low times on driller? the dreadnoughts alone take me ages
what primary gun and OC is preferred for speedrunning?
glacial raven
For dread the strat as driller flamer or cryo full dps ( no face melter it's bad) and use c4 with 625 damage to break the armor
3 c4 = 3 armor break
You kill the 2 at the same time and you win a lot of time/ammo
kindred warren
interesting, thanks
long gyro
I agree with @glacial raven I run flame thrower cause I can damage from the front and back. c4 is really good for breaking that armor but I have to agree I lose most my time there
glacial raven
I just wanted to record the sub 13 so I did 1 try today with nvidia to record, my pc is burning but i got such a good time
heavy obsidian
Noice ! Have a link to it ?
glacial raven
I started the upload on youtube at 14h, and i am at 41% at 20h
I hope Tomorrow it's finish x)
robust trout
Are you maxed out lvl wise? Or just didn’t promote yet?
heavy obsidian
When you speedrun you are often capped at 25 and don’t go out of your way to promote during runs so he just didn’t promote yet
glacial raven
glacial raven
for this week EDD the best time are gona be between 14-17 I think ( for solo)
heavy obsidian
Driller or Scout ?
glacial raven
Both i think
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Cold Delight
Stage 1: 
6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | 
Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 
1 Dreadnought | Rich Atmosphere
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 
2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Freak Vault
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Volatile Guts Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts + 150 Morkite | Parasites
long gyro
This weeks deep dive
long gyro
@heavy obsidian what was your best time from today?
heavy obsidian
Best time on Stream today
jolly rover
glacial raven
solo speedrun is the slowest
duo speedrun is really fast
trio is slower than duo
4 Dwarf is the fastest
but it depend with the objectiv, Solo is the more common because you don't need your friends, and it take a lot of time to do good time
cloud elk
third stage is bad,maybe sub 15?
heavy obsidian
Dark Morkite ?
glacial raven
Do you have the video ? I am curious about the pathing difference between you and Zhos
cloud elk
Dark Morkite.The video is uploading.
long gyro
Im just over here just trying to get better at deep dive speed running and sub 20 lol
spice ermine
Me and a friend duo'd the DD, didn't get the endscreen. So slow! How do we go Fast AF?
regal bear
Dunno if this count as speedrunning but I'm posting it anyway
Seeing people completing this week's EDD in less than 20 minutes kinda makes me doubt about my skills xD
glacial raven
25 min is not a bad time if you didn't map the EDD + try a lot of time
glacial raven
so it's a good time
regal bear
I'm kind of an adept of soloing and made a specific build for that with my driller
glacial raven
if you want to do a sub20, you need to do a mapping to check the shortcut as a driller
regal bear
Mmmh yeah, just completing objectives isn't enough
Altough I managed to sub 10 the first stage
All eggs where clustered together so I just popped them all with Bosco and took care of the wave while staying close to the black box
glacial raven
for this week EDD, stage 1 is sub 5, stage 2 is 6-7 min, and stage 3 is 4-5 min for the best time
regal bear
Noted
glacial raven
it's scout time, not driller but you can do the same time
regal bear
Damn... How is scout so fast?
glacial raven
grappling hook
regal bear
I mean sure he has the mobility, but dealing with waves as scout is a real pain in the *ss
glacial raven
when you speedrun, you don't deal with the wave x)
you rush the objectiv, sometime you kill the enemis but it's rare
glacial raven
that's why it's " hard" to do a good time
you need to do everything with a horde of glyphid after you
in case of mactera plague, scout = cryo nade, the other classes = rage quit on grabber x)
regal bear
Black boxes and uplink must be a speerunner worst nightmare right?
glacial raven
black box is not so bad in reality
salvage is nightmare
and aquarq is " bad"
you can finish an aquarq mission in 1 minute, but you need to wait 2.30 to get into the drop pod
you take more time to wait than doing the objectiv
heavy obsidian
@regal bear that's a legit time, not bad
regal bear
Thanks!
long gyro
@regal bear I only recently hit the sub 25 mark as the driller. Gone from 39, 35, 34, 28 and now im sub 25 working for sub 20
drowsy swan
Here I was thinking I was fast doing 36 minutes... 😅
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Abyssal Downfall
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Defect Well
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 1 Dreadnought | Critical Weakness Parasites
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Exploder Infestation!
zinc holly
heavy obsidian
Defect Well 
Depending on how the map is organized, just from the objectives I think a sub 20 is achievable
long gyro
I hate stage 2 of this week Deep Dive
STAGE two I could not get down shorter then 15 min those mules were so spread out
heavy obsidian
Fastest EDD in the west 
long gyro
Wouldn't you be in the East Zhos lol
cold widget
Being a new player wanting to get into speedruns, i have a probably idiotic question but how do scouts deal with uplink / fuel rod defense ? dont you get overwhelmed due to scouts subpar swarm clear?
neon folio
IFG with blowthrough boomstick is my go to
cold widget
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Feral Carcass
Stage 1: 225 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 1 Dreadnought | Parasites
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Shield Disruption
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Raw Tomb
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 1 Dreadnought | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 1 Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
glacial raven
long gyro
is that the Deep Dive or EDD?
sonic moss
No banner underneath the area where it would say deep dive so I reckon it's the regular dive.
long gyro
ah
sonic moss
You can see the banner on this one https://discordapp.com/channels/257785731072786435/626770765525680170/749609973809545257
glacial raven
it's a bad week for solo run the map are just frustrating
long gyro
well, gonna give it my best shot tonight for Deep Dive
long gyro
rough week let me tell you stage 3 sucked
pure anchor
What's your driller build @long gyro for speed running?
long gyro
@pure anchor give me one second and I will pull it up
But am I crazy or stage three of the deep dive is missing morkite
long gyro
Driller
Flamethrower
1
3
2
3
1
Sticky Additive OC
Subata 120
2
1
3
1
1
Homebrew Powder OC
Bosco
3
1
2
2
3
@pure anchor
pure anchor
Ty
long gyro
No problem im always tinkering with it guy on youtube called legionless does vidoes on best builds
@onyx mirage
This guy here
onyx mirage
I also like going AAACA with Face Melter if I wanna burn something super fast
Volatile Bullets on Subata is noice (gives 50% damage buff)
cold widget
whats the fastest ever speedrun for a deep dive??
heavy obsidian
whats the fastest ever speedrun for a deep dive??
@cold widget Best Deep Dive: 9:45 (Duo)
Best Elite Deep Dive: 8:15 (Duo)
heavy obsidian
Today's record on EDD defs not best time tho
pearl violet
wheres the morkite
long gyro
I guess inside the drop pod on stage 3 if your asking
amber lantern
long gyro
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Mammoth Covert
Stage 1: 225 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 
7 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 1 Dreadnought | Low Oxygen
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Empty Caves
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 7 Aquarqs + 1 Dreadnought | No Mutators!
long gyro
aw shit, here we go again
glacial raven
go for the elite deep dive this week it's better and more fun than the normal
long gyro
any baseline for the Regular Deep Dive?
glacial raven
stage 1 = really long and boring, you need to do a lot of shortcut
stage 2 = big map for aquarq you need to use bosco a lot
stage 3 = at least this one is fast and not hard
long gyro
well, EDD it is this week
long gyro
I dunno if I can hit those times yet, stil working on it
glacial raven
it's easy, do the correct mapping, never stop moving, and train a lot x)
but it's the "best" possible time that i think possible, i don't know if i can do them
long gyro
right, I just hate the magma core
glacial raven
don't play heat radiance and you are good
long gyro
you mean on the flame thrower?
glacial raven
Yes
glacial raven
I got prank by the drop pod at the last stage and losed 22sec
and it was a bad stage 3 -_-
manic arch
damn pros here i cant even survive the 1st elite dive floor. i am a newer player though
uncut gorge
i probably could get into stage 2
but i've only tried one elite dive and failed miserably,so....
glacial raven
Easy pz citron squeezie
heavy obsidian
Kaya
final rover
pretty good
stuck thistle
wait what, and i thought 30 minutes was fast
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Bloody Killing
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 1 Dreadnought | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Loaded Nightfall
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2 10 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | No Mutators!
cold widget
Hola, alguien que hable español? 🙂
stone karma
Hola, alguien que hable español? 🙂
@cold widget si, yo
sonic moss
@cold widget #fan-communities
ancient charm
Yo tambien
waxen pecan
Fastest EDD time this week?
glacial raven
Solo this week is hell, 27:55 soli driller with bad stage every stage
earnest wing
yikes
heavy obsidian
So, we sub 20'd the EDD this week
glacial raven
7 loot raptor
waxen pecan
damn that's crazy
slow basalt
I’m unclear how that would even be possible. I guess if you’ve ran it multiple times and know exactly where every objective is...but still, damn.
sharp lagoon
Cheaaaaterrrr
cloud elk
no beer
humble totem
wait with uplink + fuel pod + 2x black box + 1:30 PE extract how is that even possible?
i guess running black box while doing aquaros
and running BB while mining
but that leaves like 0 time for nitra
polar spruce
@heavy obsidian Damn nice. How did you got to complete under 20 mins? There are black box and uplinks.
heavy obsidian
I post ALL of my solos and duos speedruns every Monday at 3pm GMT+2 in #drg-videos and that I do theses runs live at www.twitch.tv/zh0s every Saturday at 1pm GMT+2 that I post in #drg-streams so do check these more often I guess that’s all you need to know. I hope I didn’t sound rude in that message btw but I think you have it all
polar spruce
No, I thank you for leading to these channels!
sonic moss
Iron will
First down gets counted and when IW expires it counts as another down.
Or a successful recovery from IW and a self down with C4.
Yup, IW basically gives you a few seconds of up time with 0 health. Get some health from red sugar or the vampire perk and you won’t go down again when IW expires.
heavy obsidian
Also I can exit the stage without reviving him and he’ll be up for the next stage
The run is on YouTube, link in #drg-videos
silver copper
DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Weeping Mork
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 📡 1 Black Box | Critical Weakness Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Meek Bottom
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Exploder Infestation!
heavy obsidian
Double Black box again 
glacial raven
solo it's possible to do sub 20
duo maybe sub 15
but double blackbox with mactera plague/no shield -_-
manic rapids
oi, another 2 bunkers driller, stat!
macteras last edd were shooting me through the walls in our little bunker -- perhaps a bug but if anyone dies unexpectedly like i did, free bug report ig
kind moth
heavy obsidian
It's an uplink without the mini mules nor the fuel cells
warm wharf
You also can start it multiple times, it doesn't fail the mission if you leave the area too long.
covert oracle
Oh nice, I didn't know that
heavy obsidian
ok so we got that time in 2h38 minutes so ye
cold widget
woo!
ashen schooner
thin pine
@ashen schooner how did you do that?
ashen schooner
When you're in a game
If you go in discord
Theres an invite plus icon
Next to your message bar
dusky island
need an engineer
thin pine
neet
heavy obsidian
Yeah just don’t do it in here
flat silo
Little late, but thanks for the Black Box info, didn’t realize you could abandon it. Lost a Deep Dive solo run this week when a swarm started in the middle of the black box timer.
cloud elk
Experimental EDD!It's hard.If the official version is as difficult as this. I think speed run will be very interesting.
heavy obsidian
@cloud elk where's the big difference ?
glacial raven
new mission are 15-30 min long
and solo it's gonna hard to optimise
but you should post it on experimental
heavy obsidian
I didn’t know the EDD had the new missions. Yeah I’m also pretty sure that when I see one of them in EDD or DD it’s gonna be a duo or squad speedrun x)
glacial raven
for the objectiv
silver copper
Bit late on this...
LIVE BUILD DIVES ARE -
DEEP DIVE
Region: Sand Blasted Corridors | Code Name: Massive Track
Stage 1: 7 Aquarqs + 1 Dreadnought | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 225 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 7 Aquarqs + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Bare Downfall
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
silver copper
Cheers!
proud nova
glacial raven
why is it always deep dive speerdunning the victime
stark hollow
it was pretty easy to understand
lusty roost
glacial raven
2min30 faster and you had deep for speed achivement
fickle mountain
does this count as speedrunning?
tacit summit
you can def do better in that category
hot kettle
how does gunner and engineer have 2 downs each but theres only one revive? iron will?
cold widget
they all died and failed the mission
frosty osprey
ya that would be the second death
the question is...wwho rested the gunner the first time assuming scout ressed engi
tawdry mantle
Iron will
native imp
super easy deep dive, time is def beatable
terse hamlet
Is the time for each speed run reset every week? Or are they permanent untill beaten?
heavy obsidian
The best time for every week
glacial raven
Normal Deep dive
manic rapids
merci
silver copper
Bit late again but...
LIVE BUILD DIVES ARE -
DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Unhealthy Ideal
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Darkest Hole
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 200 Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators!
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 1 Dreadnought | Parasites
empty onyx
Ty for this ☺
bleak scroll
glacial raven
Can definitly do better but rng is never with me -_-
pale ferry
No mactera eyyy
empty onyx
How??? Do speedrunners in this game just ignore enemies and memorize the map layout?
heavy obsidian
yup
empty onyx
OHH deadass I searched up drg speedruns and your videos got recommended
Holy shit man drg runs are sick
stark hollow
i couldn't do speedruns because i enjoy murdering too much
manic rapids
feels like additional stress
heavy obsidian
@empty onyx thx man
heavy obsidian
Time today on Stream, sub 15 doable
glacial raven
Hunting for sub 14 , this was the god run but at the end I failed
Drop pod open, fall in the pit before entering the drop pod
glacial raven
yesssssssssssssssss
tardy current
as a greenbeard, watching that was completely baffling lol
I don't understand how you can stay alive for so long after your shield is out
if my shield goes down I die within the next shot if its haz 5 / EDD
glacial raven
keep moving to stay alive and avoid damage + dash (perk)to get out of the crowd and don't panic
waxen orbit
how did you refill on satchel charges between missions 2 and 3?
heavy obsidian
They refill each stage like Iron Will
waxen orbit
Does that also apply for the other classes 4th slot thing?
glacial raven
Yes
silver copper
LIVE BUILD DIVES ARE -
DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Driller's Grotto
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Stage 2: 7 Aquarqs + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Sunken Ground
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 1 Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators!
Thanks to Silaise for the Dive Info!
tame helm
Does a Solo (Elite) Deep Dive count towards the achievement "Bosco you`re the best!"?
@silver copper Thanks for posting this. Are those Mini MULE salvages or just Repair Mini MULEs?
silver copper
Stage 1 and 3 are Repair, Stage 2 is a full Salvage Op!
heavy obsidian
Does a Solo (Elite) Deep Dive count towards the achievement "Bosco you`re the best!"?
@tame helm Nope
tame helm
Thanks a lot for the answers!
waxen orbit
Afaik if the mules are a "secondary" then you dont need to do the unlink
glacial raven
no uplink but you need to take care of the wave that spawn when you are close to a mini mule
quiet knot
First attempt at speedrunning elite deepdive. did take a long time though.
glacial raven
3 sec and you had the achivement
spark bear
haha, luckily had that unlocked already
quiet knot
@glacial raven would you like to join us on the second attempt?
glacial raven
no, i am testing experimental and i don't like this week EDD
quiet knot
aight
terse hamlet
What's the drg speed run record?
glacial raven
you want the fastest ever or solo/duo/team ?
terse hamlet
Solo, fastest ever, both
glacial raven
elite or both ? x)
for the normal : 12:35 solo driller / elite 13:34 solo driller
fastest ever duo normal dd = 9:45 driller/scout
elite duo dd = 8:15 driller/scout
terse hamlet
Oh, interesting
glacial raven
and before last week the fastest solo EDD was scout 14:18
so it really depend of every week if the deep dive are good ot not, objectif and complexity of the map
terse hamlet
Yeah, I thought about that
When setting a new record do we have to record our runs or just post the end screenshot?
glacial raven
people post just the end screenshot her most of the time
but there is almost always a video record of them
It's better if you record with a video so there is no doubt of " maybe he cheated"
terse hamlet
Yeah
glacial raven
for exemple I only post the screenshot her, i post the video only if I am proud of the run
glacial raven
There is 4 deep dive that I know by heart
3 are because i did them a lot
and 1 is because the map was easy to go around and do speedrun without much try
the first i did was a mess x)
terse hamlet
My first one was so bad I managed to brake the timer
Iwas in for like an hour
Or more
glacial raven
and now it's between 20-40 depending of the objectiv x)
glacial raven
quiet knot
It would be nice if drg had a little bigger player count. I bet that would make the speedrunning more active and competetive
now there is not too much people who do it
glacial raven
there is a speedrunning discord and a categorie on speedrun .com
the problem is it's about random mission
not deep dive
and for a " competition" about speed on drg everyweek it's another deep dive to run so you can't say you have the WR if other people can't do the same deep dive and try to beat it
quiet knot
bigger community=more players doing speedruns
i dont see an issue with the deep dive changing every week
glacial raven
The best thing would be "archives" and you could launch previous deep dive just to do good time
quiet knot
other games have changing maps/levels that people speedrun also