Speed Runner role, when ?
#deep-dive-speedrunning
calm hatch
urban lark
lusty roost
Tater has it, even though he is a couch pahtates
jade dew
@dense mango Well done, how hard is EDD solo as scout? Is it often touch and go?
spare torrent
Does Tater have all the roles? ๐ค
spark basin
Nope, he doesnโt have Cave crawler or mighty miners
BECAUSE DIRT DIGGER IS THE ULTIMATE GANG
austere kraken
he doesn't have Dunce role
dense mango
@jade dew pretty much similar to soloing a haz 5 mission, except with a slightly bigger time constraint
crisp rose
Aight, I don't know about speed running, but it is def. possible to do the Elite Deep Dive as a scout solo
That was the most stressful experience of my life
oak drift
Now do it again, but without Bosco ๐
crisp rose
sir, I don't think my heart could handle that
dense mango
Tour de Hoxxes
sullen crane
'Tour' implies leisure though
I doubt that Jacob had any time for sight-seeing ๐
lusty roost
Tour de France seems anything but relaxing tho.
desert pecan
at least you don't get shot at while pedaling.
wicked palm
nice run with random 3 man team
lucid gull
45 minutes for the deep dive speed running achievement kek
Meanwhile sub 30 with 2000 nitra spare
calm hatch
EDD first time for this week. Was quite a lot harder than last week, fuck the exploders
finite axle
here i am like mmmhhhh ill post my 35 min EDD then see the other pics lol, thats what happens when your crew picks all the gold
copper fjord
New EDD, first run.
calm hatch
Damn, you barely hard more glyphids than us ๐ฆ
copper fjord
we strip mine
also, we kinda explored more than necessary
no drill, so we flatenned out the dreadnought areas by hand
like in our fathers' day
dense mango
first EDD with randoms and no comms
copper fjord
scout has more kills than driller or the gunner
wut
did they spend the length of the game kissing the ground?
dense mango
nah i just outkilled them
warm wharf
It's Aaron, not A-A-Ron . .
copper fjord
if scout is killing almost twice as much as the driller
the drill is doing something terribly wrong
calm hatch
When there's a lot of macteras and not too many swarmers, a good scout can outkill a mediocre any other class
@dense mango How did you get that helmet ?
pliant tapir
Who wants to speedrun?
oak drift
Hah, guess they don't as many scout solos this week
desert pecan
protecting the privacy of your dwarf, eh
dense mango
he has a severe acne problem
desert pecan
I heard getting bite by a cobra helps
jolly gale
EDD, first run.
rich mason
@dense mango how did you deal with the blackbox defense?
also, 27 for all 3 missions? wow
curious to see
dense mango
by the black box, you have like 20+ pheromones
shy scaffold
which weapons do you use for solo?
dense mango
m1000 and nuk
shy scaffold
ty
rich mason
I never tried pheromones, they agro everything around? so you can just resupply and chain pheromones over and over?
dense mango
yeah
rich mason
bruh
chrome thicket
its good on bulks
calm hatch
grand wave
so what are the deep dive cosmetics like?
fast leaf
beards and hats
grand wave
cool
vivid spoke
You can occasionally get skins too
lusty roost
Iโve gotten sideburns, a goatee and skins. I need some good dwarven beardness soon.
onyx crystal
I hope there is a gilded marine helmet.
storm moon
I got the 3-beard for driller - combined with the robotnik helmet it looks so damn good
Also I got the dapper mustache and long braid for gunner - with blonde hair and the oktoberfest hat, it's so funny
Oh I got a different helmet on for driller right now but it still looks good
clear canopy
cold widget
who would have thought that harnessing your dwarven nature and digging a hole for safety would be effective
uncut orbit
nova radish
Ooh
void quartz
Just beat my first solo EDD, minigun/revolver/fire grenades.
I tried using cool-on-kill and damage instead of ammo for the minigun, didn't work out. If I ever do this again I'm going back to +ammo and fire bullets.
20% more direct damage pales in comparison to 600 more bullets that can each hit two targets because of blowthrough rounds
regal smelt
storm moon
not a speedrun but for some reason can't post images in deep dive discussion
@placid atlas this is our elite deep dive run just now
it was super easy
storm moon
well it was definitely easier than last week
calm hatch
I'm still waiting on Asha to post her EDD speedrun time in here
cold widget
@calm hatch what was their time?
calm hatch
"Failure" ๐
wraith flax
:C
look chat if you can read it with the terrible graphic options I play on
I was playing elite deep dive
with some random scout that was using gk2
he died like 6 times but we managed to do it so I was like cool I'm gonna help him do it
and then he said he needs to go
how I feel right now
also finished it
driller is god
and I know time is terrible but hey I didnt die xd
is this even hazard 5?
or 5.5 whatever
driller god
subata best weapon
spare socket
Whats ur subata mods?
silver schooner
2-2-1-2-2 more damage, more bullets, kill macteras faster
frail spear
cold widget
your flamethrower or cyro is arguably the best swarmer killer in the game
plain wharf
so what's the "best" weapons to take as scout?
hybrid cobalt
m1k+zhukovs are considered best
wise ivy
deep dives are easier than H3 salvage mission imo
like for real, the challenge isnt even there most of the times
quick glen
m1k+shotgun with double barrel overclock
but only take m1k if you actually intend on aiming at least sometimes
silk stone
Which dives? Normal dives are pretty easy, EDDs are a bit of a challenge for most players
tribal violet
normal dives feel like they're scaled to H2.5 maybe? doesn't feel like it spawns as many as H3, is there any word on what the hazard is?
spare torrent
It's a custom difficulty
warm wharf
I know that EDD stage 3 is 5.5
dense mango
there are set hazards but DD mission types will affect the spawns differently anyways
silk stone
From what the devs said, normal DDs are 3-3.5-4 and EDDs are 4.5-5-5.5. That being said spawns are different than normal missions
copper fjord
I honestly want the ability to do the EDD twice to get rewards, instead of having to do the regular DD
Everything is so squishy on regular DD that I feel like I'm playing with hacks.
worthy comet
Something I just noticed: if you toss a mule leg so that it's sitting in a place where you can hit E to pick up the leg with the mule body behind it, you can instantly pick up and place the leg without being prevented from picking up another leg afterwards by the placing animation ๐ฎ
weak trellis
Same goes for aquarks.
weak trellis
anyone up for quick EDD? need that last stage bad ๐ฆ
unreal bane
i would like to try it a last time, im lvl 150+ scout main
i have the first stage basically memorized in evey detail ._.
dense mango
make a room
weak trellis
@dense mango @unreal bane up for EDD? EU Host
dense mango
๐๐ฟ
weak trellis
dense mango
no mic though
weak trellis
just join pod 2 so I can scream very dwarvish at you
sorry but now
*no
I dont know WHY people are too stupid to kill the breeders but that just... no
dense mango
ill be scout
weak trellis
ยดthanks for helpin out spirit,, maybe later
dense mango
can duo it
weak trellis
I want a full team in damn discord and not a lagging scout (that guy just now)
dense mango
alright maybe later
weak trellis
โค
weak trellis
@dense mango wanna join? :3 playing with @brittle idol in pod #2
weak trellis
weak trellis
jacob what? ๐ฎ
dense mango
first edd of the week
dense mango
second run went a bit faster
cold widget
show ur strats
calm hatch
I couldn't play so much solo without getting bored to death, dunno how you do it.
I'll do a few 4 man runs tonight
lucid gull
Salvage and under 23 mins? Plus 2 mins from PE as well.
copper fjord
maps are tiny
lucid gull
Guess I'll see then when I get to it.
ocean bison
I'm looking forward to trying out the EDD tomorrow then ๐
weak trellis
You won't be later on :D
green mason
is edd easier solo?
wraith flax
depends
hexed stratus
If you can deal with the macteras, probably
I didnt have any trouble as a cyro digger with the first 2 missions, once i knew where all the morkite and stuff was on stage 1
void quartz
The hardest part is the macteras at the end
macteras are much more dangerous if they all focus you at the same time, and on top of that you have to stay beside the uplink and can't kite around
I managed to get to stage 3 as a solo gunner two times but failed the extraction.
hybrid cobalt
good teammates > solo > bad teammates
warm wharf
Took me an hour in a full squad on our first try. They were trying to clean out everything and prepare for everything, lol.
Honestly had a harder egg hunt than most of the EDD.
maiden rover
Holy hell @calm hatch For Karl!
spare socket
@calm hatch
Can you tell me your loadout?
Weapons, and exact mods? Would be much apreciate as much detail as possible, for example, drill mod, grenade, suit mods, etc. Ty!
umbral briar
@dense mango how many hours u been playin this
umbral briar
ah gotcha
round shard
The anime icon stuff, is that just the image itself?
dense mango
im almost at blue level 600
warm wharf
Yeah, I'm just a bit over 600.
terse nexus
These speedrun times are darn fast, there some form of quick tactics? avoid enemies? ๐ฅ โ
mission 1 EDD took me 26mins with a scout 
silk stone
Didn't know you were a weeb too spirit :P
dense mango
#weeb
cold widget
@calm hatch do you record any of your runs
sonic moss
Depending on how much ram you have, you may be able to setup a replay buffer with OBS and save snippets.
It's fairly light on performance
spare torrent
smh
dense mango
?
tight elm
Some dude randomly joined and started trolling me while I was eating lmao
dense mango
uh ok
terse nexus
@tight elm could be a leaf lover!
fleet hazel
flat zenith
I'm confused, dude says he beat it and you're like.. show me pics bro or you didn't do it? lol...
wary ice
@dense mango how exactly did you solo edd as scout..?
drifting moth
Very useful
Peteto, zoom around a lot, first stage. Focus mostly on aquarcs, if enemies come close. Zoom away
Grab nitra when you can, let bosco and the turrets kill most the enemies
2nd stage I instantly popped the dread and led it to the starting room. Wave spawned during the fight so having pheros can give you some breathing room
Last stage, only go for obj, with some luck you can hide in the pod's drill for cover during uplink and fuel cell
silk stone
Nah it's based around how many players you have
terse nexus
I believe it scales based on players
silk stone
All difficulty in the game scales to the amount of players you have
wary ice
oh rofl
i thought edd is same if one or 4
no wonder
was gonna break my neck if someone solo'd it as 4 player difficulty
drifting moth
Difficulty scales up and down with the amount of players present
sleek berry
Did anyone speedrun the deepdive elite solo?
silk stone
yup, pretty sure theres some posts here about it
raven junco
I fail to do it with friends yet alone solo, yikes
weak trellis
One more day for the next dds
I think it was broly with screenshots @sleek berry
Actually it was spirit. Scroll up just a little bit, there's not many pictures a above. 24 minutes for edd solo
5 pictures above. 22 minutes
weak trellis
New one soon
calm hatch
Good luck ๐
weak trellis
Bah! Don't tease me
weak trellis
Ionex wanted to do it again yesterday. I was like NOPE need my nerves for tomorrow
8 times was enough
tight elm
Not speedruns by any means but I was just happy to do the elite one solo
Also my first elite that I've done solo
calm hatch
GG !
sand rose
1:03:22 - this week's EDD as a 4-man team of Dukarian, Meranera, Sleeping Waters and yours truly. This was a lot of pain, sweat and hardcore clutching. The most difficult EDD so far. Also, screw Swarmers and Mactera Spawns.
Not an achievement by any means, but at least I've got the "I like it down here" Steam achievement with this.
glossy ibex
This week is harder than last week's? Oof.
dense mango
Gunner EDD solo run
jolly gale
god! How did you do that?
You've mined 286 minerals, except for three stages of 150 "Morkite",
except for 107 gold, except for 10 Aquarq
there are only 19 "nitra" left.
Did you do it without being supplied?
dense mango
its one stage
jolly gale
You're so good. lol
warm wharf
Second try on public. Certainly not my best game, Dread killed me like 4 times, but at least we made it. My first public game session had everyone wipe not long into the first stage, lol.
Unfortunately I had brought a minimal range crisper with me, which was terrible when it became Lethal Enemies. I don't recommend going in blind, lol.
terse nexus
I want that pumpkin head ๐ฅ
weak trellis
Done the DD but haven't looked into EDD yet. Without spoiling mutators and stuff, how hard is it?
quartz delta
first stage hard (if you playing solo)
tight elm
First stage isn't that bad on solo, I'd say order in difficult from hardest to easiest is 213
weak trellis
Mh maybe wrong channel, I play MP
tight elm
That's not gonna change the difficulty of the stages lmao
Trust me
Everyone else this week is dying on stage 2 again
red tartan
Not free for DRG rn unfortunately
weak trellis
nooooo
you take quite some time to type 'yes please'
someone else? Ionex and nahtu are there, 1 slot free
(traitors playing D2 grmlz)
dense mango
#lfg-steam / #deep-dive-discussion please
terse nexus
EDD mission 1 is easy with a good group
mission 2 requires teamwork when you get those crazy swarms
everyone goes nuts over the horde bug ๐ฐ ๐
weak trellis
lawl
warm wharf
Welcome to this weeks EDD completionist club.
lusty roost
stands outside, looking in at all the fun you're having in that club
it starts to rain
weak trellis
I mean you have to play the game all day, but do you want to play enough to actually finish it? Or enough after shiftend? ๐
I think everybody would take you with them
weak trellis
Ah you're not allowed to say you don't want to play your game in your free time much ๐
lucid gull
@dense mango Any plans to release a video of your strats lol. 30 mins as gunner is stupidly fast.
I'm curious what time you got for stage 1 as gunner to. ๐
dense mango
maybe when i upgrade my dying computer
lucid gull
So what are the strats you actually used however? I don't suppose you can rememebr the time it took for each stage?
I've been trying myself to get a good time and I would like to compare times on the stages if that makes sense.
.
I've done scout with grapple movement speed bonus.
I pretty much do the dreadnought fight right at the start of the mission.
For the aquarq, bosco mines, drops it, I ferry with the faster movement speed allowing me to sprint with gems.
Get to stage 2, bosco mines out all of the eggs, I repair the minimules kiting all of the enemies by ping ponging between the two.
Once that's done, I deposit the eggs and clear the backlog of enemies. After that standard salvage stuff.
Third stage, I kill betc (she interrupts fights) go to first dread and lead him out of spitballer central. Take tunnel connecitng to second dreadnought, kill him leave.
That stratergy nets you around 33ish minutes. I don't see how as gunner you could get 30:10 which is what is confusing me.
There must be some large timesave that I'm missing.
dense mango
ill try another run in a bit and see what i get
dense mango
So I recorded an invalid run for 31:17, I forgot the dive was slightly modified until I went into mission 2, causing mission 2 to be slightly harder, and I cba to restart the run again midway. I'll try to rerecord another run tomorrow, unless you want to see this run.
You want Dark Morkite. The route I always take is:
First Mission: Have Bosco go for the far ones. While facing East from the minehead, there is 2 aquas; one close, one far. They both contain a nitra vein nearby (Do not touch any nitra until you call for extraction). As gunner, I put a zip line to both of them. Start the dread whenever the aquas you personally get are done. For extraction, as long as you stay near the mine head, you can manipulate the spawn to be at the bottom of the map. If not, it will spawn near one of the zip lines I placed before. Use the downtime to mine nitra. If playing gunner, you can get the nitra veins on either one of the zip lines.
Second Mission: Mules first, eggs last; reason being is that you will be hanging around the pod anyways to return molly and repair the objective. You can try to do both, but if a wave/swarm comes, it will make it harder to repair the mules. You can ignore nitra completely, as repairing mini-mules will grant nitra anyways. After repairing both mules, break both eggs at the same time, deposit, return Molly, and repair the objective while the wave is coming. 1 Supply pod near the objective, thats all you need for the mission. You can try to do it with none, but it acts as a reviving tool.
Third Mission: This is where Dark Morkite does its job. Path here is always the same, clear the cluster of mobs that always spawns North West of the pod. Stay inside the pod if you like, as iirc, it will grant you bonus damage reduction. Kill Bet-C or just avoid it completely. Gather the Morkite (preferrably by hand because of Dark Morkite and Bosco making them disappear). Head North of the pod, go down the hole, then the rest I honestly can't remember, but it takes you to the first Dread. Pop it, kill it. Theres Morkite in the room, 2 veins. Then follow the path to the left of the 2nd Morkite vein from where you entered the room; it will lead to the next Dread. Pop it, kill it. Call for extraction. The pod will always spawn on the other side, simply zip to the starting area (always call Molly so it gets a head start), and just run to extraction.
The biggest optimization is 1. Get as little Nitra as possible; 2. Open the map as little as possible; 3. Avoid death as much as possible. 4. Pray to RNGesus that the Dread doesn't spin at the speed of light.
lucid gull
Hmm, I mean like I literally don't mine nitra lol.
I still don't see how you get it under 31 mins.
dense mango
https://youtu.be/OyX7qbI2TlM can refer to this, the map layout is the same
lucid gull
That's where Im going wrong is the dread fight, letting bosco mine while you do that and doing at the minehead
dense mango
some of the pathing in the last mission is wrong because i accidentally went East of the pod instead of North, also i did not take dark morkite
dense mango
yeah its broken
lucid gull
It's even worse as scout
Since you want to circle kite him hard
He just spins, constantly. Like 4x in a row.
dense mango
what i do is go over him instead of around
lucid gull
Yeah, but I use zhukovs to do it
dense mango
i haven't tried since the over clock nerf, probably give it a try tomorrow
tribal violet
it's kinda funny that he moves about as fast as my grandma but spins like he's a hecking top
terse nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363074556090384394/635017091702849556/unknown.png super fast! ๐ฅ 
lusty herald
Gunner solo 
proper topaz
EDD
cedar fractal
@ me if anyone wants to go for a regular DD under 45min achievement run
golden vector
Post this not for the time but for our fallen gunner who Disconnect at the beginning of stage 3, we will remember you BenMasta
jade dew
@lusty herald can you share your setup pls?
jolly gale
crystal mirage
That dwarf does not have a head
gloomy quest
So you can't cheese morkite from 1 level to the next to save some time
tribal violet
But you can for nitra which is nice when you're waiting for the pod to come in a point extract or something you just get to run around and get nitra while there's nothing better to do
vagrant wagon
The moment in teh Deep dive when you can grab an egg because its floating and still counts as buried in the earth, or , a wall
dense mango
is this speedrun related
terse nexus
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silk stone
Easier than last weeks?
wraith flax
Seems that way
wraith flax
You got bonless boi? cuz croppa
terse nexus
first one is fun - lethal + exploding lol
Bunker tactics is handy for mission 1 and 2
Mission 3 is easy, plenty of Nitra as well for expanding from the drill station since O2 is low but not really needed
terse nexus
7:36 for mission 1 that is darn fast ๐ฅ
glossy ibex
Impressive.
terse nexus
nuke everything and exit
cursive bane
Shoot your nuke and out you scoot
terse nexus
I had a bazooka
low schooner
terse nexus
@glacial raven ahhhh you beat my 7.38mins! ๐ฅ
glacial raven
we have done 5:02 now x)
silk stone
What about times for the whole mission :P
terse nexus
That's crazy talk
glacial raven
i will not say the best
because there is a competition on the french discord
but first try with 5:07
we did under 20min
finite palm
ezpz
copper fjord
what the fuck
glacial raven
what ?
glacial raven
it's for the speedrun
wind copper
scuicide
unreal tartan
yes
glacial raven
and it was the first try so please be gentle with the endive x)
silk stone
As long as you had fun who cares how many downs you have :P
next verge
the person who has aborted their task to revive you for the 15th time does
copper fjord
yeah
at some point, I don't give a fuck anymore; you can't waste anymore of my time if I stop reviving
wind copper
If their current task was to snipe you with the m1k i don't think it's a big deal
cold widget
just did elite deep dive solo in 35:50. if anyone can beat that, i will personally get the first person to prove it a prize on steam
quiet pumice
that went horribly in stage 2 so it won't be hard to beat
wraith flax
~
cold widget
well played
wraith flax
oh yeah yeah
RIP
my Iron Will run out
and driller wasn't in the zone
please incerase the range of the zone xD
that last down didn't count
finite palm
@cold widget rofl.
Waiting for my prize...
dense mango
i feel deja vu for some reason. sub 25 might be possible
finite palm
it was on first try so yes
glacial raven
Kayabouilla it wasn't alone x)
silk stone
Feel like you need an end screenshot to really prove it
dense mango
i can test if that time is possible
but at least a screen shot of the results, if not video
quiet pumice
wondering if dark morkite would help for the first stage, seems there could just be enough in the spawn room + first room
dense mango
if you want the fastest times, only take dark morkite
with it you only need the first room yeah
quiet pumice
hmm, with it I'm getting 177
one vein next to the box, two at the wall towards the spawn room, one vein in the spawn room
where am I missing one
quiet pumice
no, hand-mined
glacial raven
guy what's the best time possible for a 4 people team on the normal deep dive ?
dense mango
Still yours, I have no friends to run more than 2๐
glacial raven
Is there really no one with who you play often?
worthy eagle
I ended by 30min, normal DD with scout. lost sometime cause the bugged egg
glacial raven
and with a full team ?
worthy eagle
didnt do that
cold widget
Any EDD groups going?
dense mango
cold widget
Thanks.
dense mango
Scout Solo EDD 27:15 https://youtu.be/YaMEm9eAKvM
storm moon
28:28 for this deep dive - double scout
storm moon
Spirit, that was incredible
placid atlas
bruh
toxic forum
anyone here want to do Karl Would Be Proud with me? ๐
driller+scout method, I can be whatever
dense mango
@toxic forum this isnt the correct channel for this
toxic forum
was just thinking that it would be a speedrun ๐
dense mango
read the description bar at the top
stoic hornet
Now you have to get the achievement in the EDD
wicked yacht
that would be a fun achiev
complete an Elite Dive with no dwarf being downed ||while drunk||
peak reef
2nd stage went a bit wonky but happy with this ๐
lucid gull
Alright
I have questions
Like why is your engi a necromancer
5 downs, no revives? What kinda resurrection spell does he have?
warm wharf
Could be iron will double downs combined with the above.
lucid gull
Yeah, it's ironwill + not reviving at the end stage
Which means someone doesn't stick to the no dwarf left behind rule.
peak reef
yeah i just downed myself at the end of every stage, it's a lot faster than me trying to hike over to wherever the pod is
fathom sundial
Seem like pretty good runs, how many runs was this?
raw raven
Wait how did you even with 20 mins
cold widget
you fellas need to post some videos
silk stone
I don't want to say it's edited, but the areas around the numbers are blurry
karmic trout
I'd be happy to nab my PoV, just gonna' cut the audio out. I imagine my good pal kidder has his as well.
silk stone
It might just be a resolution issue, but yea a POV would be great
peak reef
i dont have my pov recorded but i can share some of the runs we got before that one, this took around 4 hours (I think) to do and a lot of it was just routing it out.
stage timers for this run (the first real run we got after working on a possible route)
7
18
25
6
13:30
22
awful last stage on this one, working out the kinks still
insanely good stage 2 time on this one but we were trying something new on stage 3 that lost us a ton of time (both players on black box and then aquarq hunting instead of simultaneous)
best ever stage 1 time we got
best ever stage 2, stage 1 here was around 5:24 IIRC so this was a 6:38 (avg being around 7 mins)
dense mango
still would be best with a vid tbh
karmic trout
:)
silk stone
Tbh shouldn't videos be required for all serious runs? :P
peak reef
yeah definitely
dense mango
it would if there was an actual category for this
peak reef
this game doesnt seem to have a leaderboard so i didn't really think about it
silk stone
No point of a leaderboard when it's not moderated. I mean just look at the dancing leaderboard
peak reef
that's fair
silk stone
Would be nice to have a catalog of all previous best runs though. Like an archive
Shame we can't replay old dives
bronze stratus
yeah i feel the same, even just a permanent record recognized in game would be cool so top times are somehow meaningful
karmic trout
Pre-seeding would be needed and balanced, maybe if there's enough interest it's something the devs have on the to-do list
silk stone
I certainly know a lot of people that would love to test the seeds ahead of time
RN they're just randomly generated and put in without testing
peak reef
this week felt pretty natural to route and run but ive also barely played this game so maybe they always do
silk stone
I mean there was an egg bug in one of the dives earlier
glacial raven
@peak reef why scout + engi ? is the engi better than driller or gunner for duo ?
peak reef
im very new to the game and the engi is my favorite class mostly lol, im gonna work on driller though simply for speedrunning
i dont think there was really any situation where engi was undoubtably the best choice, i just am a lot more comfortable with that class
i think driller is best though for duo
glacial raven
ok that's just because you love to play the engi x)
peak reef
yep
glacial raven
i think for the normal deep dive scout + driller is gonna be the best
because it's aquarq / egg
peak reef
yeah, i was working on routing out some driller paths but i never got to play with my 4 man and just focused on duo
glacial raven
yesterday we found a new paths for 4 people team
it was -50 second for the new path
peak reef
yeah that's awesome
speedrunning in this game is pretty neat though
having a lot of fun with it so far
finite palm
peak reef
๐
karmic trout
:o Very nice time!
finite palm
๐
karmic trout
Ayy we got it
I don't know how Youtube works but I'm assuming the quality will get better as it's processed. Problem is it's not telling me it's still being processed. But oh well.
spare torrent
that thumbnail
karmic trout
That's the lad. Quality is actually good now. Glad I went through the trouble to get it exported in a higher frame rate
cold widget
EDD contents
restive lotus
edd contents are not the same oc for everyone btw
sand marten
really enjoyed this weeks dd and edd
sonic moss
Contents as in objectives.
ancient temple
I was doing so good until that last one with the 10 aquas... was a freaking nightmare trying to get them all by yourself in such a giant cave lol. Also, somehow managed to kill myself with a supply drop twice in this EDD lol
tight elm
You do have bosco to do everything for you though, right?
calm hatch
Stage 3 was crazy
I did it as 2 players and it became hell real quick, still made it but barely
desert pecan
worst than the magma EDD ?
terse nexus
Stage 3 can be easy if you know where the aqua is - if not the swarm can overrun you easily
tight elm
I managed it solo on my first try, wasn't too bad
terse nexus
@tight elm you have to try it with 4 people - Solo EDD/DD is a bit different less hazards ie spitters, swarms etc
tight elm
I've completed an EDD with 4 people, just not for me
karmic trout
Stage 3 EDD 2 man we got an insanely dense swarm that ate up a lot of time.
mystic jetty
ya that late swarm really fucks you up
void quartz
We were doing okay on EDD3 until we popped the egg in the upper chamber and we were about halfway back to the drill rig fighting through the egg swarm when the director decided to drop an actual swarm wave on us too. Got crushed.
I later did a solo scout run and finished in ~72 minutes.
The larger point extract caves are really interesting to fight in and figure out the best way to move aquarqs over long distances, really shakes up the meta.
frigid tundra
@void quartz didn't have any shortcut made by driller to get thoses eggs asap?
void quartz
@frigid tundra No, we had one at the start but he ditched us on level 1 when we got to the black box. I don't think he liked me much. Early on in the level I shot some swarmers off of his foot with my shotgun. I hit him with one, maybe two pellets, but he acted like I deliberately shot him full on in the back and that's the reason why he had 30% health left. I'm sure that had absolutely nothing to do with the Lethal mutator swarmers chewing on his legs but you know, details. I let him fend for himself after that.
peak reef
listen, it's not a real deep dive unless i kill my teammates by accident a few times anyways
was stage 1 where the box was on a tiny bridge?
cold widget
In normal yup
peak reef
are the devs interested in deep dive speedruns or is this it basically just a community idea?
lusty roost
Depends on what you mean by interested. We've had it earlier, but it wasn't really that big a thing due to there not being any common seeds. With the deep dives there is, so we made this channel to support it for those who want to participate.
peak reef
mostly, would you be willing to take suggestions to try and make the speedruns more fun
/ more consistent i suppose
because i certainly dont think speedrunning is the focus of the game and nor should it be, and i dont want you guys to waste dev time on something most people probably dont care about
lusty roost
Suggestions are always welcome, but they probably belong in #suggestions
peak reef
yeah, of course
void quartz
There is an achievement for finishing an EDD in 45 minutes or less, other than that there isn't any reward for going fast (other than survival).
Unless you add some kinda replay system a leaderboard would also be somewhat meaningless.
karmic trout
Leaderboard would be nice, still. There really doesn't seem to be much interest from the player base to grind and route out runs. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but as of now the only tell this niche exists is joining this discord and checking out this channel.
And going fast is it's own reward. :) There's a lot of satisfaction for me that comes from a run coming together well and seeing the time improvement as you hammer out the kinks and try different strats.
heavy obsidian
I freaking did it team
glacial raven
GG man
heavy obsidian
im uploading the whole thing to youtube soon
peak reef
well played either way
heavy obsidian
ty all
peak reef
pretty decent time all things considrered i think
not sure how fast u can really go solo
heavy obsidian
when i saw i did a sub 1h i freaked out lmao
heavy obsidian
downs reset between each stage
peak reef
oh didnt know that
that makes sense
never really tried to solo any deep dive i guess
peak reef
yeah it seems pretty interesting, especially as engi
void quartz
I did EDD solo as a scout, engi would be a dramatically different experience. Must have been fun to have access to AoE damage that's for sure.
That third stage is capable of generating the biggest swarms I have ever seen to date.
heavy obsidian
I don't even know how you got away with a scout on stage 3 tbh
cold widget
i did it. all you need is a whole lot of nitra, pheromones, and bosco
slow marsh
Question
how do people have crazy high player levels?
like 200+
iv been going ham on dives
and im only lvl 8...
is there a offical good way to level up ur player level?
slow marsh
best way to lvl player level?
karmic trout
Deep Dive speed running gives ~15k XP in <30 minutes. The only limit is stopping to do promotion assignments at that point
I've gotten near 20k on a double xp hazard 4 but that's all luck
peak reef
got 2 bulk dets on stage 1, easiest reset of my life
peak reef
bulk spawns on the black box, second easiest reset
peak reef
last minute run, happy with this one
maybe some week we'll actually get sub 19 lol
so many resets on stage 1
karmic trout
I'm grabbing the footage and uploading, prolly be up and rendered by tomorrow afternoon. :)
peak reef
stage times were roughly 5:06, 12:40, 19:15
vivid cedar
I had so many enemies on EDD stage 3 as solo scout that their AI started to break
vivid cedar
Doesn't help that I couldn't really kill any of them
heavy obsidian
At some point for me they were all gathered on the mine head like taking turns to kick my ass xD
lusty roost
Mooooooooooooork
peak reef
Mork Mork
karmic trout
Give it time on the quality :)
We decided we were okay with leaving comms in. There isn't much discussion of strats but I thought some people might be interested in hearing our thought process during some moments that go unexpectedly.
sour cliff
ayy pretty proud of this one
done without iron will because im an idiot and accidentally switched out iron will instead of field medic
bronze stratus
first run, not great but feel ok about it, could save a ton of time on the first mission it was almost half of my total
jade dew
what loadout did you use guys, the 3 scout screenshots?
terse nexus
GK2 - weak point upgrade / Twin Pistols / Phermones - dunno the full build off the top of me head ๐ฅ
lot of nitra in this weeks EDD so you can go crazy on phermones
Phermone fever
final mission I just placed a fair lot of them for fun ๐ฅ
bronze stratus
i run m1k with focus/weak point/stun, zhukovs with accuracy/penetration, (no OC for either) and pheremones. i've tried every combo of weapons but nothing feels as all-around capable as that, especially when you have bosco with you. i dont think there is even an option on the grenade unfortunately, pheremones are just broken levels of good, extremely abusable especially when you get 8 per resupply.
gk2 could get used but you miss a lot in terms of perma stunning big dudes (even w/ 40% mod, the stun is just so short) and miss out big time in terms of stopping power for menaces/wardens/acidspitters, and with bosco around you dont really need the steady fire for clearing neadocytes or swarmers. shotguns big problem is just ammo conservation, but with both ammo mods/penetration/fire + jumbo shells OC it feels like it could be viable, you just have to kite for a really long time to make it as efficient as the zhukovs for wave clearing.
i'd say the building biggest issue is with super armored enemies. guards, trawlers and shellbacks (full size) all take a lot of time to deal with
bronze stratus
@jade dew
terse nexus
Bosco handled most and all me problems 
let me just finish off things with a few shots or get some HP back with a power attack shockwave + vamp
heavy obsidian
For a video that will never exist because the files got corrupted, Iโll do other vids tho
violet venture
signal whale
is deep dive speedrunning the best way to level up?
dense mango
no
bronze stratus
i disagree, i think it is. if you get consistent on dd you can pull 15k xp in 20 mins or less with a squad, which i dont think is possible other than on double xp missions normally
depends on how good you can get at running though
karmic trout
The only issue being the xp is essentially wasted since first promotion is the gate to end-game and the only thing it's used for at the moment.
silk stone
You can do a normal PE in 10 minutes. Itโs way faster to do that instead of DDs
DDs actually reward less XP per part than standard missions
dense mango
not related but anything under 1k per min is slow
glacial raven
deep dive can be the best way to farm xp + gold if you farm with a team and do the +1000 xp/min
because you can do like 12k credit and 15k xp in 14-15 min
EDD are bad for that, and double xp are every time the best
bronze stratus
i think it depends on the week too, like this weeks dive is probably tough to sub 15 without a very coherent 4 man team because it has so many wait times, 2 mins per point extraction + 5 on salvage
bronze stratus
yup so 9 total downtime minutes
glacial raven
if you want to farm for a gunner, but the onli compo that do the sub 15 is driller/scout x)
for me the best will stay the elimination haz1
3 min 3k Xp
in double xp with error cube i had a 9 min 20k xp haz1
dense mango
H5 PEs will always be better xp wise
glacial raven
with a team yes, alone no
dense mango
alone still yes
dense mango
#deep-dive-discussion #drg-chat if its not related to speed running
terse nexus
Yeah - after the first promotion - the leveling is pretty much useless, assuming you have unlocked all the other classes as well
Unless you want to show off on how long you been playing DRG
terse nexus
Anyone solo'd EDD with driller yet?
primal kernel
wha
peak reef
this week seems fairly rough for solo that isnt scout, haunted cave isnt very fun and driller (id imagine) would have some trouble with last stage mactera plague
i certainly have trouble wiht it myself but im not very good at this game
vivid cedar
I don't think that really qualifies as a speedrun but it's doable
Also my first non-scout EDD solo so I guess it's a start
peak reef
hey awesome job
i think solo runs are fair game here
im not a mod or anything though
vivid cedar
First stage was the worst for me, had to try it twice
vivid cedar
But I figured out making tunnels for myself let me take shortcuts where the ghost couldn't follow
You can also drill a tunnel with the ghost and dread next to each other and the ghost will take chunks out of the dread when it digs
peak reef
how do you deal with mactera plague? i have trouble with it as driler
vivid cedar
I'm using thin containment field EPC and flamer
peak reef
oo
vivid cedar
The EPC combo can delete a bunch of them if you aim it right
peak reef
yeah thats smart
vivid cedar
I also took neurotoxin grenades, if you lure lots of mactera above it then burn it
That lights them all on fire and kills them quick
You can also bunker for the third stage to get them to cluster up
cold widget
peak reef
nice run
heavy obsidian
first try speedrunning today, I'll go for sub 30 tomorrow
peak reef
solid; this weeks a bit boring with all the waiting i think
finite palm
GG
glacial raven
Zhos we are waiting for the sub 30 onli pickaxe
finite palm
no tool
heavy obsidian
Haha maybe Iโll stream it if you guys want
peak reef
Stage Times
17:44
34:48 (17:04)
49:58 (15:10)
Warthog, single target turret, fire PGL with proximity for mactera
Lots of improvement here, will keep playing
grim arch
Soloing the first stage as Engi under 20m is already impressive enough
peak reef
strategy there was to clear the original spawns while i send bosco to collect aquarks, as i ran to the dreadnaught
kill asap, throw all aquarks down and kite around for ages
very irritating
grim arch
Good job though
peak reef
its a major time save though, if i can play it better
peak reef
awesome runs
silk stone
Congrats ๐
peak reef
stage 1: 12:07
stage 2: 26:54 (14:47)
stage 3: 40:09 (13:15)
almost beat my 4 man time
fuck yeah dude
used a strat on stage 1 perhaps other solo players might use in other deep dives at some point, when swarm popped i kited around and gathered a lot and then popped dreadnaught egg after sending bosco far away. the ghost did huge damage to the dreadnaught and cleared the swarm for me before bosco revived. its a bit finnicky but saves ammo and its fun to actually use the ghost for something even if it's not optimal
probably not needed on driller or scout tbh but like i said its very funny
vivid cedar
Driller can just tunnel into a wall with the ghost and dread next to each other
The ghost will hit it when it tries to dig
Hadn't thought of intentionally sending bosco elsewhere to make the ghost smash everything on your corpse though :P
silk stone
Whatโs the warnings?
sour cliff
stage 1 - ||critical weakness + mactera plague||, stage 2 - ||exploder infestation||, stage 3 - ||regenerative bugs||
cold widget
And the objectives?
white geyser
plain summit
Hi @white geyser what is this file
plain summit
BIOCE
plain summit
i mean nice
jolly gale
EDD with my team
bronze stratus
hot damn
terse nexus
dull grove
20 deaths? ๐ค
terse nexus
@dull grove he kept getting himself blown up(lot of exploders) or falling into those lava cracks lol though he and the scout also got downed by the cave leech and spitballer that was in the area in Mission 3 lol
downed me a few times when the resupply drill part instahit me ๐
dont think thats a bug but avoid touching the drill part
vital glen
xD
cold widget
peak reef
Stage 1: 9:18
Stage 2: 15:30~ (forgot to take screenshot)
Stage 3: 21:48
somber glen
Can someone approve our run before the update comes out? https://www.speedrun.com/deep_rock_galactic/run/yj3d53gz
peak reef
nr
jolly gale
terse nexus
that is fast ๐ฅ
peak reef
4:32
9:28
16:12
last stage went bad ๐ฆ
also molly's pathing went stupid mode on the last stage but was otherwise agreeable
heavy obsidian
@peak reef molly is the worst when speed running
terse nexus
super fast! hot potato! ๐ฅ ๐
heavy obsidian
Last EDD YouTube out now !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJZLmS6gcbg
jolly gale
noice
peak reef
first real attempt, last stage is brutal
heavy obsidian
Getโem
floral wyvern
๐
peak reef
nearly 15 minutes on last stage, kill me
jolly gale
so many acid spitter, and web spitter.
peak reef
yeah its awful
gusty sphinx
i dunno stage 3 was easy for me, i had problems with stage two and no coordination
heavy obsidian
Got'em boys
karmic trout
Oh hell yeah
I had a feeling normal DD could be routed down really low
Any reason you guys took engi over driller?
heavy obsidian
6th time Iโm saying it today, I donโt have the driller promoted ;_;
karmic trout
I figured. I think the only class who doesn't bring enough to the table in a general sense is gunner, but there are situational uses for him still. Mine and kidder's first time on a dd had engi for the same reason, he doesn't kill the speed run horrifically for sure.
peak reef
quick update: acidspitters still fucking suck on stage 3
peak reef
another update: god do i hate soloing dreadnaughts
heavy obsidian
Hahaha, you use Driller right ? Isnโt that the best class with gunner to do it ?
peak reef
yeah i just hate their ai
when they do their slam or whatever but follow you so you cant shoot the back
๐ฆ
gonna try some different strats anyways to make it easier i think
heavy obsidian
Yeah solo its truly a pain even on critical weakness some fights were just awful x)
peak reef
yeah is aw that on your solo of last week's edd
mint jasper
peak reef
raw raven
Just solo'd dark helix with a 56:58
plain cargo
I did it solo in 40:17
I may be a Xbox/ Microsoft player on Deep Rock but I just wished i'd taken a photo of the mission completion screen
jolly gale
@plain cargo nice. DD? EDD?
plain cargo
DD
jolly gale
so fast.
jolly gale
lol when i use the cotroller. i can't be able to do it that fast.
plain cargo
well, that's because I did the DD on my gaming laptop on the Microsoft store version, as my scout
wind idol
Wow
jolly gale
but still fast. lol
wind idol
WOW
plain cargo
for me, yes, yes it was
wind idol
Wow
plain cargo
You got a problem with that pal?
wind idol
WoW
plain cargo
i'll take it as a yes then
wind idol
@plain cargo
plain cargo
yes?
wind idol
Hehehe
plain cargo
hmm, try harder
wind idol
plain cargo
things about to go Boom!
sullen burrow
@plain cargo that was my first DD ever
plain cargo
what time did you get?
plain cargo
hmm, even speed runners
wow, i had longer than that my first EDD that i beat
solo to be exact
sullen burrow
ya mine was solo too
didnt know how to queue lol
havent done an EDD yet gonna try it soon
raw raven
I don't actially speedrun i am just S P E E D
plain cargo
It's hard, like real hard, some of them are meant for Speedrunners period!
sullen burrow
i feel like at the essence the game is all about the speed runs
wind idol
I am speed
green urchin
gotta be honest with ya, going solo on a regular deep dive is actual'y really easy) EXAMPLES: Bosko will mine kill and grab anything you want him to, 2 no need for plat forms and scouts, unlimited ammo for bosko, bosko cant be killed, you have no worries of disconnecting during the deep dive due to not using someone else's network or theirs using your's to support both players/ multiple players Gameplay, no need to conserve ammo for other players. Best of all... if you get disconnected from internet services while your playing, you will still be fine and you can keep playing. so this allows you to speed run very quickly.
modern delta
40min sharp EDD, as my and lil' bro's first succesful Elite run. Felt great. Then tried to run the same thing with a third party member and had so, so much trouble
https://i.imgur.com/1Onrz6K.jpg
as a scout main myself, I feel bad saying that maybe our new scout wasn't the best pick for the run ๐ค
karmic trout
Three players is arguably the hardest scaling to deal with. The jump in health/spawns etc are much more aggressive than the jumps from 1 to 2 or even 3 to 4 when accounting for the firepower that +1 brings. It useful for speed running I think, since 3 people can more effectively do objectives quicker than 1 or 2, but this weeks EDD had some really stressful moments that the scaling makes glaringly obvious.
modern delta
thanks for the info, good to know
and I have to agree, the last mission was pain in general, regardless of how many peep you have with ya
failed our first run of it with bro 'cause I got greedy and tried to res him instead of going into the droppod
right in front of the fucking droppod
uneven osprey
someone fast EDD?
i have to say i have never before speedrun dd
but i'm good player
and can synchronise and know roles
plain cargo
๐
peak reef
had a previous run that was a bit faster (20 sec~) but called drop pod by accident in the wrong place and lost time lol
karmic trout
Happy you got the sub 30! Sub 25 next? ๐ค
jolly gale
i think, i can't lol
peak reef
6:40
13:49
26:48
new pb on stage 1, bad stage 2, average stage 3. sub 25 soon maybe
also no bunkering but i cant really prove that
gonna try to record the run if i get it
onyx spindle
nice
jolly gale
lol very nice 
heavy obsidian
hum guys, did the DD change for you too or not ? the aquarq placement on stage one changed for me
peak reef
from my experience the layout is based on who hosts the game
karmic trout
It's happened for the past two weeks for us.
heavy obsidian
yeah but no host change either
peak reef
yeah sometimes it just happens
dunno
the only thing thats ever been 100% consistent for me is solo
dense mango
It means the seed somehow changed, which happens once in a while
jolly gale
EDD, Solo run
jolly gale
nono. he's very good speed runner lol
heavy obsidian
Im just fucked because my seed changed how am I supposed to speedrun this now x)
boreal pewter
peak reef
stage timers
5:40
8:42
13:25
dunno how to improve this one, everything felt insanely fast, really good run
karmic trout
Really happy with this run, gonna' grab my PoV and upload soon
karmic trout
I might fall asleep before this is up so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CfYcKmaRqg
~2 hours from now :)
jolly gale
@karmic trout Is it a private video?
peak reef
@jolly gale pretty sure he fell asleep, it's currently uploading so it will be available in a bit
jolly gale
thx @peak reef 
karmic trout
At the moment yes, it will be unlisted once it's done. That link should be correct for it though
sullen burrow
you guys are monsters - 30 minute EDD runs
i did my first solo run las week took an hour on regular
gonna try my hand at solo EDD this week wish me luck boys
jolly gale
good luck @sullen burrow 
heavy obsidian
never again
karmic trout
Not a bad early time for the week. Is this routed or just a blind run?
heavy obsidian
kinda routed but not rly trying could pull off a sub 30 but do I want to ?
karmic trout
Haven't taken a look at the EDD yet, bit rough I'm guessing?
heavy obsidian
yeah 2 times 10 aquarqs
heavy obsidian
lmaooo unlucky
sullen burrow
there are like 3 aquaags down hard to get on phase 1
think u gotta use boso to fish em up
jolly gale
nice gogo
sullen burrow
freakin detonator and schellack on my dreadnaught
jolly gale
shellback always ruins to speedrun
heavy obsidian
Itโs often rng related either you get a super good run or a terrible one where you can finish stage 1
light glacier
Amateur 4man run
jolly gale
@peak reef driller?
i think this week EDD, Aquaq is the key. 20 aquaq... so many for me.
and the aquaq is the same blue as the wall. ๐ต
peak reef
yeah driller
just got a run i think 25 might be possible? my stage 2 was really bad and i died on the black box on s3
jolly gale
I'll be looking forward to it.
jolly gale
EDD with 3dwarf
sullen burrow
u can almost do that solo
peak reef
there's a whole lot of waiting on aquark missions that cant be avoided
black box is also unavoidable time looss
peak reef
aquarqs on last mission arent in very good spots to bring them back
sullen burrow
yup
and bosco is slow as fuk
plus hard to micro the dropping of it with so many aliens alive
jolly gale
yeah last stage take long time, so i'm just soloing black box mission, other 2 dwarf mining aquaq.
peak reef
stage 1 is miserable
heavy obsidian
Best time for DD (yet)
jolly gale
noice
peak reef
solid
glacial raven
sub 17 possible but for a perfect run and a bit of luck
peak reef
holy shit i wish the bulk det would stop spawning in 30 seconds on stage 1
this sucks so bad
peak reef
unbelievable
jolly gale
lol
dense mango
no @ deleted comment
jolly gale
EDD Solo Run
storm pier
Does anyone know a youtuber of this EDD solo ?
I hate to admit it but i keep getting destroyed in the first stage ๐ฆ
grim arch
Kinda late to ask for that, the reset is in 14 hours or so
storm pier
yeah i know, but just want to see it
tough tinsel
one man gaming does a solo engineer on the EDD
storm pier
ok ๐ thanks ๐
tough tinsel
your welcome ๐
dense mango
I'd do it if it wasn't such a hassle to record a good run for every dive
sullen burrow
damn dude good work
i was wondering how u were gonna do the blackbox and was thinking pherome spam was really only way
what overclocks u got?
jolly gale
@sullen burrow For the 3 stage, I've collected "nitra" hard.๐
and here my overcolcks
m1000 - minimal cilps / boomstick - jumbo shells
wary ice
how do you run for first few seconds after picking up egg/aqua
edgy bone
You pick the movement speed upgrade on the grappling gun.
wary ice
o damn
edgy bone
If you reach a movement speed high enough you can run while carrying
Works with other speed bonus as well if you combine them
wary ice
i see, thanks
sullen burrow
first run of the week, under an hour this time booyah
heavy obsidian
@storm pier I also stream some on Twitch and post some solo speedruns on Youtube if you like !
peak reef
power went out for 30 hours so i never got a good run of the edd last week ๐
nr @jolly gale
jolly gale
thx mate! @peak reef
terse nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636938619969470474/652202975770705971/unknown.png kept running into slashers ๐ฅ @wraith flax @sand marten
verbal eagle
DD was nice. EDD was good too, nice and tough until we cheesed it so hard every Glyphid on Hoxxes became backed up
Because it turns out, if you bunker at a salvage objective, and make your kill tunnel run right up against the drill, anything that comes through the tunnel and gets close to the bottom of the drill just instantly dies
spare torrent
Aye, the lowest form of cheese
teal solstice
until a bulk spawns
austere flower
@sullen burrow where did you get that helmet?
sullen burrow
its called 'corporate marine'
i dont know where i got it from i think i just bought it
void quartz
@verbal eagle
if you bunker at a salvage objective, and make your kill tunnel run right up against the drill, anything that comes through the tunnel and gets close to the bottom of the drill just instantly dies
Oh so that's how that works. A while ago I did a regular salvage mission and the fuel cells drilled down into a tunnel under the drop pod. A bulk spawned above us and started to dig down, but then suddenly died for no apparent reason. It must have hit the drill.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1921312467
desert pecan
That's some really leaf lover's technique if I ever saw one
jolly gale
EDD. 2dwarf
shy arch
2 error cubes from 2 present boxes in one DD
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1931317647
brave sable
Wasn't really a speedrun but i didn't know pot ol gold was so damn good for deep dives