deep-dive-speedrunning

[fossil ruin]

Did a duo run with @young plaza and shaved some time off

[boreal ivy]

definitely very speedrun-friendly deep dive this week, blind first run, the most difficult part was reaching the drop pod on stage 1 😅

[steel elbow]

sub 27

hmm

Sorry for the graphics. My VGA is very much a toaster at this point.

Stage 2 is hell.

[chrome crypt]

glad to see sub 15s returning. truly the reboot of an era

[worthy summit]

not bad for a casual public match

[robust saddle]

NGL I was carried by the Gunner & Driller greybeards but I still think this is respectable for a random group

[pulsar marlin]

Fastest time atm 400 nitra on the first stage goes crazy

[heavy rock]

first completed run, took me a few tries and turned out taking cryo nades was best

[heavy rock]

first run, blind

[kindred slate]

first time speedruning it was an blind run

and also random group

[cold widget]

Theres any speedruns?

[alpine spear]

You should make vids of your runs

[fossil ruin]

Here’s my solo run. Recorded the duo with Snoop but haven’t posted it

https://youtu.be/KGN4fKoShrw

[alpine spear]

Ty

[zenith plover]

I did my first ever deep dive earlier today solo and finished in 41:20 with like half of the time spent dealing with the horror

[sturdy relic]

get a load of this one

[strange linden]

Wasn´t a particular speedrun, but it was fast(ish) anyway.

[chrome crypt]

current progress for learning sub 15 with @young hull

[pastel python]

I got a time of 22:23 as engi on this weeks regular deep dive

[urban shoal]

1 resup, 0 downs, 28:19, random lobby

[merry lark]

regular DD

[alpine spear]

i was there for this

🙂

[alpine spear]

if you want to duo run it again im down

[alpine spear]

@fossil ruin you were the inspiration for this. pretty shit time tho. no droppod glitch run

was my first ever solo deep dive run attempted, so not bad for that.

[junior herald]

oooh

ive done a solo run too

on the first try

[main bridge]

i have no idea how anyone has done this edd without a full team. its so annoying

[junior herald]

shit time

29mins

[main bridge]

just seems like the worst caves rn

[alpine spear]

uh top is DD

[main bridge]

i know im just saying the edd is horrible

[alpine spear]

but takech has done a solo run this week for edd

[main bridge]

hes nuts

mad respect i cant even do the god danm thing at all let alone speedrun it lol

[minor helm]

dang, this channel popped off over the weekend

good to see

[unreal bane]

Speedruns are fun

[fossil ruin]

Nicely done!!

[scenic fossil]

What's build?

[pastel python]

I agree, trying to speedrun 4 egg hunt missions Is fun

[alpine spear]

watch his video

[merry lark]

sure

[merry lark]

pretty good run!

[alpine spear]

wp brother, RNS

[merry lark]

solid

[alpine spear]

im down to learn too

[chrome crypt]

i got down to 17m and im decently happy with that

[alpine spear]

same i got 17.11

[chrome crypt]

damn nice

i think we were like 17.23 or somethin

ill check later

[alpine spear]

will try for lower can shave a bit more off with some better play

[chrome crypt]

its just stage 2 that ends up loosing time

[alpine spear]

yeah we had a run in which the egg fell in a weird spot

and then its just stupid kiting

[chrome crypt]

what was great tho is both me and my friend clipped in drop pod to save about 30 sec of waiting for mule

[alpine spear]

never did this in the 17.11

[chrome crypt]

impressive

were you close to pod when it landed?

[alpine spear]

no predrill routes

for molly

[chrome crypt]

ooh not bad

[alpine spear]

yeah id like to think so 🙂

i got a solo 20.24 though

but im sure i could do better there too

[alpine spear]

we can try the next one together?

next weeks i mean

[chrome crypt]

perhaps

you solo or do you duo normally?

[alpine spear]

anything

[minor helm]

all right, I gave it another shot and it wasn't too bad. Still don't like the horror tho

[valid rapids]

not particularly speed, but i got the deep for speed achievement so im happy... the 30 seconds of molly getting in the pod and the pod leaving let me down for the sub 30 though :(

[scenic fossil]

Whose video?

Benicopter?

[alpine spear]

yes

[minor helm]

took off another 2 minutes late yesterday

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Buried Carcass
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Dreadnought Classic | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Ruptured Level
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Elite Threat
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Classic | Rival Presence Critical Weakness

[alpine spear]

any ideas on speed running this?

[fossil ruin]

The regular DD is the best option for a good time. With the mules on stage 2 and 3, you won’t have to mine nitra at all through the entire DD (you get 40-60 nitra per mini-mule).

Stage 1 is really fast, but you lose time waiting on Molly. If you run a duo, you can flip the spawn of the drop pod to save substantial time.

Stage 2 is the longest stage by far. You’re limited to how fast you can go based on the uplink + refuel. IMO, the best strategy is to assemble the mini-mules first, then pull the eggs and press the button.

Stage 3 is the fastest. Again, assemble the mules first, then mass-pull all 4 eggs. I like to get them in one spot; that way if necessary, you can use Iron Will to deposit them all and call the drop pod.

[alpine spear]

yeah i just played it, seems doable

except cave gen is..... interesting

[inland forum]

Watchout for sneaky cave leeches in dd stage 1.

[minor helm]

shield disruption

[chrome crypt]

actually edd seems like a good time this week

oh fuck oxygen

looks like no nitra required on either because of the abundance of mules

this is gonna be fun

@alpine spear what region are you? im NA west

[alpine spear]

sea

[alpine spear]

@fossil ruin i think sub 20 is possible for the dd, what did you mean when you said you can reverse the pod location? you dont think its better for it to land in spawn?

[fossil ruin]

Yeah i've done sub-20 already; I think a duo could get it to sub-15 with a great run.

If you run a duo, one person (usually the host) can run back to spawn and stand where the drop pod comes down for extraction. Then when the other person presses the button, it will 'block' the drop pod from spawning in the usual location and will spawn near the person pressing the button on Molly.

[vital locust]

How do you properly time this so that when the button is actually available to be pressed the host is where they need to be? And how do you determine where the pod would have spawned normally?

[fossil ruin]

Pretty much comes down to trial and error. I've run through the 1st stage of this week's regular DD about a dozen times already, and in almost every instance the drop pod lands in the spawn room at the beginning.

When doing a duo, you can practice timing this so while 1 dwarf is mining the last vein of Morkite, the other dwarf is backtracking to spawn to be ready for when the drop pod is called. You just have to have good communication with your teammate, and it will involve trying it a few times to get it down

[vital locust]

Thanks, looking to start doing these nice and quickly with my usual duo partner 👍

[minor helm]

Were you able to get the escape pod to land about halfway through the cave? I just ran through the deep dive once with a team and it dropped about midway back up. I remember calling for the pod at the very end of the cave, like the furthest point away from spawn. Perhaps looking into that may help?

[fossil ruin]

You can get 250 morkite before going through the last dirt path to the final room, so I didn't really explore it that much. I did a couple runs to call the drop pod from the final room and it did spawn back towards the middle, but I'm not sure if it would be the fastest way to run the stage. I'll have to see what happens when I run it with a duo

[minor helm]

I see. Best of luck to you two!

[fossil ruin]

Thanks! You as well

[spare brook]

a decent blind run

[fossil ruin]

Welcome back! It’s been a while

[spare brook]

Thanks. Been busy with college stuff. Figured I'd get back into it now that I have some time with winter break

I saw you got some official speedruns up too. Nice work on those. I think I'm gonna try the all missions one. So much rng in that though

[fossil ruin]

Thanks! I don't think anyone will be able to touch your egg hunt record. Good luck on the all missions one!

[minor helm]

getting familiar with the caves. stage 1 feels very awkward...

[alpine spear]

is it possible to one shot a glyphid dreadnaught with a resupply?

[proud nova]

no

[alpine spear]

ok

[fossil ruin]

Where I'm at right now. Can definitely shave some time off this, but I keep getting some weird rng. Stage 2 is never consistent. Had dark morkite for this one

[minor helm]

Got the sub 20 lets gooo. Stage 2 is a mess i tell ya hwat

[alpine spear]

any reason why you dont glitch into the pod in mission2?

[fossil ruin]

It doesn't work on salvage operation missions. You can clip into it, but the mission won't end early.

[alpine spear]

Ah ok, ty

[minor helm]

It probably saves like less than a second over waiting for the gate to open and running in, but because of how volatile the enemy rng is for that stage it effectively doesn't matter whether or not you clip in. I do it to save on ammo and give my hands a break. I'd say generally for this stage running around or clipping in have the same end result.

[haughty steppe]

Ive tried clipping into the drop pod

its a bit confusing how exactly your suppose to do it

[granite smelt]

33 minutes is a personal best. Stage 2 was over in less than 5

[alpine spear]

i got a bulk on my run, wrecked the time

[alpine spear]

got a 27.16 with bulk

was on par to get 21

[heavy rock]

blind run

[austere lagoon]

I’m a recently promoted Engineer - what should I know for speed running deep dives solo?

[dark cargo]

run scout

and special powder

[drowsy aspen]

is that your only promoted character? if so i dont think you need to start speedrunning immediately, just get used to deep dives first and understand how they are

[minor helm]

Got lucky with this run, and it took me about 3-4 hours to replicate it (17:42 for the replicate run) for recording. From this run and Benicopter's run I've found that sub 17 is possible.

[fossil ruin]

Nicely done!

[vital locust]

How long did 3rd stage take you?

[minor helm]

Thanks!

[minor helm]

I did the 3rd stage in 2:37

[fossil ruin]

@minor helm you inspired me to try again. Sub-17 definitely possible, but idk how many more attempts I have in me this week

[minor helm]

Awesome! What were your split times?

[fossil ruin]

I don't remember exactly, but it was something like 4:45, 14:27, and then 17:00. I messed up my last mission looking for an egg that right under the mule the whole time 😐

[minor helm]

Duuude a sub 10 minute stage 2?! That's insane

molly moment 💀

[minor helm]

do you also by chance keep track of your best splits? I'm trying to figure out the lowest this DD can go by combining our sum of best splits

[fossil ruin]

Both stage 1 and stage 2 on this run were my best splits. I continue to struggle to get a good clip on stage 1. My best stage 3 was 2:30, but I feel like that could be improved by around 10-15 seconds.

Stage 2 I deposited the eggs into molly right next to the drop pod where molly goes up. As soon as I hit the button, within seconds I was repairing the uplink. Felt like it saved a bunch of time

[minor helm]

Ok, so... combining our best splits of my 4:09 stage 1, your 2:30 stage 3, and if you remembered correctly your stage 2 exit 14:27 resulting in a 9:42 split... we get stage exits of
4:09
13:51
16:21

And then 16:06 at most of what you say can be improved on stage 3

[chrome crypt]

didnt someone already do a sub 15

[chrome crypt]

the uplink starting doesnt matter where molly is. its a certain amount of time after you press the button

unfortunately i wasnt and probably wont be able to speedrun this week

[chrome crypt]

so far you definitely have the best time at 17 flat

[fossil ruin]

Didn’t know that!

[chrome crypt]

one of those strange observations

[vital locust]

How long does it take to start then?

[chrome crypt]

probably around 5 seconds

cant test it right now and probably wont ever

[minor helm]

I'll test it out, I don't mind

[minor helm]

The uplink being repairable as soon as possible seems dependent on how far away molly is called. In both cases, the uplink could only be repaired after molly sets herself down by the escape pod and the horn from the escape pod is sounded. The green sphere that envelopes the uplink is a clear indicator for when the uplink is repairable. I've also looked back in previously recorded runs that included salvage missions and found the uplinks take about 20 seconds to repair.

[fossil ruin]

Incredible video/research! That’s what I thought was the case with Molly

[minor helm]

Thanks! Another thing worth noting is that molly can be moved for a bit right after pressing the button. This can be helpful in getting her closer to the escape pod before she automatically returns to it. And that time she takes to get back to the escape pod is what needs to be minimized.

[chrome crypt]

very interesting

[alpine spear]

yup, i thought this was generally known info.

on another note

you can animation cancel the brrt pistol shoot more shots but use less ammo

deals the full dmg too, havent fully tested it out though

[alpine spear]

it is also the moment when uplink shows up on map

[alpine spear]

looking for other peeps to run duos with..

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Eternal Anvil
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Volatile Guts Mactera Plague
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Brave Sleep
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Rival Presence
Stage 2: Recover Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Lethal Enemies

[alpine spear]

deep dive has three time locked mission

[chrome crypt]

that is so unfun

well refinery isnt super time locked

but yeah still guerenteed waiting

[alpine spear]

yup

[minor helm]

i'll be surprised if this week dd gets sub 23

[chrome crypt]

really wish IS hacking pods were quicker

[minor helm]

at least the refinery cave is nice and simple

[dark cargo]

low o2 sabotage
💀

[molten jewel]

First try, was it worth it idk but we won

[alpine spear]

thats about it rest is babysit dottie

with randos

[feral idol]

that gotta be torture to do

[alpine spear]

it is, its also magma core

[feral idol]

💀

[alpine spear]

engi nuke really helps the run

and theres no nitra shortage too

[chrome crypt]

this pic goes hard even still got the plastic wrap on the monitor

[thorn willow]

<@&296918282403840000> it be a link again

In #drg-gallery too

[silver copper]

Been an hour, so apologies to the mods <@&296918282403840000>

[hearty jetty]

Thanks guys. Rock and Stone

[thorn willow]

[umbral talon]

@tough arrow and I had a nice first run

[sharp moon]

This seems like the only place I can put a picture and ask a question; so what's up with the counter?

[opaque coral]

It’s goal

[supple oriole]

You throw the ball thru it

[gloomy thunder]

theres a ball, this is the wring channel tho

[supple oriole]

It’s like a game you can play with other dwarves

[umbral talon]

a game within a game :o

[drowsy aspen]

You can post pictures in #drg-gallery or #interplanetary-miners-union since this isnt really the right channel for it

[gaunt orchid]

1 death was C4 🥹

[dim sable]

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Outrageous Delight
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Volatile Guts Shield Disruption
Stage 2: Collect Data Rack + Dreadnought Classic | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Radioactive Exclusion Zone | Code Name: Hunter's Madness
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Swarmageddon
Stage 3: Collect Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen

Big thanks to Memtransmute for this one you rock

[late vale]

double no shield start

[short sorrel]

EDD Yuletide Elf Edition
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409521532474359833/1055457342545723462/image.png

[fast spoke]

why the elite deep dive is so easy, there is way too much nitra we didn't mine everything and spammed supply drop on each mission
no death at all no difficulty, "elite" deep dive

[cold widget]

I was hoping for a challenge this time but this is just aggravating for me with another Industrial Sabotage.

[dark cargo]

another low o2

🗿

[minor helm]

oooh a dreadnought in a sabo mission... VERY interesting

[pulsar marlin]

Low O2 streak 💀

[wanton ocean]

i mean 2 man is basically x2 nitra

cus you get 2 resups for each 80

[fast spoke]

Yep but even with 5 times less nitra there is enough

EDD should be challenging and be a bit harder
And maybe like you do it 1-2 times, you lose but you know how the map is and you can play better the next time

It lasts one week so if you first try it within 1 hour there is no point in resetting it each week

[night pivot]

remember that EDD 2p is not equal to EED 4p, normally bugs have more health, more resistances and is more of them. But since EDD changes every week, sometimes it becomes harder, sometimes easier.

[frosty cove]

OK

[fast spoke]

Then 2p should be harder if it's too easy, i can't play at 4 because we are mainly a duo

[night pivot]

you are aware that there is such thing as scaling, aren't you?

[fast spoke]

Yep but for example, during the black box mission, there is almost no spiders in 2p, so the mission is just waiting and not really surviving

[night pivot]

then you got lucky, I had constant stream of glyphids

[frosty cove]

I lack of oxygen here, need some cigarette

[fair bobcat]

Even so, we (4p) had about 600 nitra going into the caretaker fight

This edd is easier than it looks on paper imo

[sand viper]

i think i'll give it a shot, though these last low o2 rounds have given me a run for my money

[wanton ocean]

low o2 is pretty easy imo

it just drags out the mission sometimes

[sour solar]

our first attempt at the sub 45 rip

[drowsy aspen]

Its gonna be a bit challenging getting sub 45 on this weeks dd due to it having time gated objectives in the form of sabo and escort

[sour solar]

Yeah we felt pretty unlucky haha, 2 long missions and a nemesis (I guess everyone has same thing?)

[fast spoke]

DD = hazard 3 😩

[minor helm]

dont really have high hopes for this week's dd, considering how long the 1st and 2nd stages are I see this week going as low as 28 minutes

[heavy rock]

first try, might actually try to do it < 30 this time

it was actually pretty fun

[heavy rock]

second try went to 32:25

I just have to learn how to cope with the hacking pods better

[carmine sage]

You can do it, I believe in you

[radiant belfry]

Do people tend to speed run dd or edd or both?

(in this channel I mean)

[jolly spear]

more of the latter, less of the former

sometimes a deep dive is more speedrun-able

[verbal pecan]

man i cant even solo a deep dive 💀

[alpine spear]

yet, you mean

[verbal pecan]

no

[scenic kraken]

For the Gunner speedrunners
https://youtu.be/FwRsmdm4Atw

[vital locust]

delete this

[uneven wolf]

How is this related to drg

[valid patio]

Has anyone got a good time for the EDD?

[drifting lodge]

you should really drop those fancy guns of yours and start using pickaxe like Karl intended

same goes for that pesky UI

entire EDD as gunless solo scout without Bosco

[valid patio]

Do kills bosco gets count as kills for your character?

[mint lodge]

look at that pace

[chrome crypt]

Looks like so far the fastest time on EDD this week is 32:25 this week by this guy (dont want to ping)

[vestal otter]

Tbh even tho they got a good time I would always use a screenshot of one as the fastest still personally

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Deadly End
Stage 1: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Shield Disruption
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Brutal Wilderness
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 Eggs | No Mutators

[carmine sage]

Another Data Rack...

[dark cargo]

ANOTHER SABO

WHEEZE

[fast spoke]

Why are you dying in hazard 3

[north ruin]

Why not?

[minor helm]

i think this time was an improvement to their DD time that was screenshotted and posted right above it

more sabo

[dull orbit]

I would give my left arm for removal of sabos from DDs and assignments honestly

[minor helm]

stage 3 DD cave generation seems like driller is best for the run... engi might be able to contend. Scout will probably fall behind setting up the pipes.

[fossil ruin]

I found a good route for the high pipe when using Scout

[minor helm]

lmao i forgot you can put pipes there

[trim latch]

my first dd was sub 35 i think

[round egret]

WR speed

[fossil ruin]

Duo with @young plaza

[spare brook]

not as good of a blind run as last time

[drowsy aspen]

very nice

[radiant belfry]

that is absolute madness, I didn't know you could do that 😂

[minor helm]

sub 26 for solo is possible, rng permitted

[dark cargo]

ur back

[minor helm]

Better rng this time. Another thing to note that although the dreads are too far away to be crushed by the refining rig in stage 3, the lacerator can be lured under a falling pumpjack for a quick kill (I think it's like a falling resupply, which according to the wiki is 1000 typeless damage). Easier said than done tho.

[dark cargo]

mfw people are relying on enemy movement rng

on a regular dd

[vital locust]

speedrun though

could be a world record 🗿

[alpine spear]

some ppl dont get it...

[storm totem]

don't get what

[elfin trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1000188565889757196/1060366303543689267/image.png

Engineer got an upgrade

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Salt Pits | Code Name: Fearful Cemetery
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 1 Black Box | No Mutators
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Mactera Plague

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Titanic Mouth
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + Dreadnought Hiveguard | No Mutators
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Regenerative Bugs

[lucid token]

Deep Dive this week just to prove I'm not lying

[fossil ruin]

Man, I am so sick of Sabotage. This is getting ridiculous

[dry dawn]

is it me or the Elite seems to be a lot easier than the regular this week?

[dull orbit]

Might just mess around and do neither dive this week 🤷‍♂️ honestly the forced sabotages and desyncing of promotion missions are the only 2 gripes I have with season 3, but they're pretty big

[minor helm]

[fathom pewter]

sabotage should honestly have only 1 generator

[hushed storm]

driller gang

[hushed storm]

this is how you combat sabotage

get 4 drillers

[midnight belfry]

Sabotage is pretty fun if you have two dwarves doing each one at once

[soft ocean]

omg i want to try that

[alpine spear]

on haz 5 if you dont have the right pair of folks its super chaotic

[distant rock]

how do I kill a dreadnought using rival boss?

[fathom pewter]

Nemesis? The only thing i can think of is using either its electric attack (for when you are invulnerable) or its rock breaking mechanic

[distant rock]

the big prism

[vocal oriole]

if im not mistaken...
get the caretaker to low health, pop the egg, break the dread armor, lure the bug(s) under the caretaker as you kill it, the explosion should take it out

[hasty lichen]

hey guys i just came back to the game after a 1.5 years, whats the current meta build for driller? 🤔

we still rocking the cryo?

[proud moon]

We've done it for the 1-st time lol

[heavy rock]

easiest caretaker ever tbh (first run)

[vital locust]

current meta build is usually sticky fuel and EPC with TCF

[hasty lichen]

wow really, never tought id see the day were cryo with be trumped, also whats TCF?

[vital locust]

thin containment field, t5 upgrade for EPC

[hasty lichen]

oh

so no burning nightmare?

[vital locust]

hit your charge shot with a normal shot to cause a 240 damage explosion with no falloff, destroys terrain as well

[hasty lichen]

thought that was mostly for mining

[vital locust]

its extremely powerful in combat on top of its long-range mining capability

instantly delete clouds of mactera

[hasty lichen]

ah i see

[vital locust]

instantly delete all grunt types

[hasty lichen]

can you give me the build for both?

[vital locust]

sure 1 sec

[hasty lichen]

i dont have OC for the pump sadly as i stopped playing when it came out, i do howver have all the OC for epc

[vital locust]

23232 sticky fuel, 21222 persistent plasma

sticky fuel is for the flamethrower

[hasty lichen]

oh

wait really?

crspr is meta now

damn

[vital locust]

sticky flames are just insanely strong and ammo efficient

[hasty lichen]

thats so dope i really like the crspr but cryo used to be so much better

also is the 5m reach that much better than the ammo on T1 crspr?

[vital locust]

you generally dont need to be firing for extended periods of time with sticky fuel

so the extra range is just helpful in general

[hasty lichen]

Oh I see

Thanks m8

Do you know about the meta for the other classes? 🤔 Since there are so many new weapons 😅

[dry dune]

So someone shared a screenshot: A team of two engineers finishing this week's EDD in less than 29 minutes. Could that be possibly legit?

[cold widget]

those ranks though bro 👀

[gentle plank]

who want to do deep dive under 45 min for steam achievments ?

[uneven wolf]

this isnt the right chat for this. go to #lfg-steam

[glacial raven]

Why would that not be legit ? Deep dive under 9 min have already happen

[pulsar marlin]

9 mins DD bro was all missions just length 1 mining with 2 eggs

with dark morkite

[peak wind]

Please help me, I have an endless download

[uneven wolf]

Wrong chat. Go to #bug-discussion or #modded-drg-chat

[vast nimbus]

ты бари юзер?

[brisk magnet]

CRYO IS NICE BECAUSE OF AMMO MY FAV BUT U NEED FLAMETHROWER FOR BOTS AND THE MIGHTY AXES

ALSO ICE SPEAR IS GOOD TO HAVE EQUIPED

[empty junco]

Anyone want to run the EDD?

[drowsy aspen]

#lfg-steam

[tribal charm]

messeges like this are infinetly more comedic if you read all caps as shouting

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Glowing Comeback
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Elite Threat

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Covetous End
Stage 1: Recover Data Rack + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Low Oxygen
Stage 3: Recover Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Mactera Plague

[turbid jolt]

Not enough eggs smh

[alpine spear]

lol double data rack edd

[placid verge]

dreads. bruh

why cant we get a deep dive thats just mining aquarqs or something

[lethal epoch]

Ahaha two industry sabotages? I’ll see you guys next week

[dull orbit]

Ok what the heck is this, yeah not doing the deep dives until sabos are taken out. Thanks

[stone kettle]

definitely skipping EDD this week

[proud nova]

it's random

And people avoid it like the plague for a reason.
some people are, most people don't.

[alpine spear]

i mean its not my favourite mission type, boringly long

cant solo speedrun things

[proud nova]

What is ?

It's random dude

[alpine spear]

also given the volume of new players showing up.. gets a little much for newbies

[proud nova]

It wasn't in rotation in S2

I don't really get your point

Outside of "waaah, I don't want IS in DD and assignments"

there's something else to it, right ?

[alpine spear]

its making the drg experience less enjoyable

[proud nova]

that's just a personal opinion

[alpine spear]

and since when did devs stop caring about opinions of their audience?

everything posted by users will be opinions.

[proud nova]

They don't, but you're talking about it like you're talking for everyone

and you aren't

[alpine spear]

im stating my opinion when i say it has made the game less enjoyable

[proud nova]

yeah, and it's just that, an opinion. Which is fine.

[alpine spear]

yes, opinions are important to discussions

[proud nova]

Because it is only a handful of people

[alpine spear]

from what dataset?

[proud nova]

You really think the reddit and the discord represent the majority of the players ? 🤔

[alpine spear]

ppl who dont voice their opinion means they like the mission?

[proud nova]

People who don't have a problem with things don't talk about them in general

[alpine spear]

a small fraction of all players will actually voice their opinion

[proud nova]

people who complain do

[alpine spear]

this is very very assupmtion heavy

your argument against this is, not enough number of ppl are voicing their annoyance

[proud nova]

and so are you

And you're acting as if it's only a handful of people who genuinely hate the mission... it's a good chunk of the player base.

[alpine spear]

im still to meet a player in vc who says they love the mission.

met quite a few who say they hate it

ofcourse this is experential bias

[proud nova]

yeah, it is extremely biased.
I could go over the reddit and find that survey about whether people liked IS or not with 380+ votes from people saying they don't mind, and less than 40 votes for people disliking it.

It doesn't mean anything

Point is : we don't have the data, so it's pointless making assumptions on whether the playerbase like the mission or not

[alpine spear]

oh thats great that ppl dont mind it.

[proud nova]

It's fine if you don't, but don't try to talk for everyone

[alpine spear]

i never did

i stated my opinion

[proud nova]

I know, and to be fair, it wasn't really aimed at you either 😄

but you barged in

It's mostly an answer to this :

Okay, somebody has to talk to the devs about this...

They got their heads way too far up the ass when it comes to putting sabotage in everything.

[alpine spear]

i never said ppl hate his. i said it makes the experience less enjoyable. didnt think i needed to say for me at the end of this

[proud nova]

Anyway, this has been going on for too long already, we should have moved over to #drg-chat but heh, too late

[alpine spear]

will i ever like the sab missions. no. not because i find them difficult, just because they last too long and most new ppl who sign up to lobbies struglle with them.

[proud nova]

That's fine

[alpine spear]

id really like to see the number of kills next year by caretaker

[wheat glen]

It’s literally been a sabotage almost every week can we please have dive without robots lol

[proud nova]

RNG has been screwing us over

[wheat glen]

:<

[proud nova]

hopefully next week we don't have IS again

[wheat glen]

Waking up to see deep dives but it makes more awake than needed

[misty bloom]

whats your record

[dull orbit]

IS is the least played mission for a reason. By a large margin. so to force more people to play it, they put it in rotation for everything else. Now more people aren't doing their assignments. Longstanding players and new players alike hate the fact that this is crammed down our throat when we'd like the S1/S2 rotation of DDs and promotion missions back please and thank you

[alpine spear]

this weeks is not impossible, did it with 2 randos, with no vc

ran fat boi with the other two going for the dreads

well placed fatboi shots takes out entire mactera swarms

killed 0 friends

got killed by friends twice

was it a fun 1hr experience? no

[dull orbit]

And this is the point ^

[alpine spear]

im well aware of the point...

[fossil ruin]

The regular DD looks like a great option to speedrun this week. Ran through it and the layout is really simple each stage. Stage 2 is a little longer time-wise but this week can definitely be sub-20

[alpine spear]

waiting for your video.

i ahve several questions but ims ure ur vid will answer the,

[fossil ruin]

I’m trying to get one but my newborn is making it very difficult 😆

[alpine spear]

much love brother, been there, survived that

[dark cargo]

u brought fatboy to a double sabo

💀

[alpine spear]

?

[dark cargo]

my condolences

[alpine spear]

im still confused, fatboy is by far the best oc to take on caretaker

[silver copper]

THESE ARE OUTDATED!!!

Devs have today just reset the Dives to avoid double Sabotage, this means you can also get Cores again!
I'm working on getting the new Dives and will post them here once I have them later!

[scarlet lake]

aw shucks, should've done the regular deep dive as well

but hey, you don't look at a gift 3 new cores in the mouth

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Fathomless Point
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 3: 225 Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Bloody Return
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 1 Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators

[scarlet lake]

They really went ahead and discombobulated IS off the face of Hoxxes

[velvet topaz]

Did they changed them?

[viral shuttle]

What's a black box?

[scarlet lake]

It's a Salvage Operation Uplink, basically

[wheat glen]

Forgot hyper propellant? Or don’t have it yet?

Also thank god they rerolled, double sabotage is annoying

[fallen pawn]

I WAS SO READY IM ACTUALLY MAD

[wheat glen]

Don’t be

Double sabotage is so sluggish and frustrating

We have had to deal with more robots than in season 2

[heavy rock]

nooooooo where's the double caretaker ripp

anyways first try on dd:

[dull orbit]

If they have to reroll to avoid too much of a specific mission type because it's so universally hated... then other steps have to be taken than just a reroll

[burnt warren]

I think it needs to be sped up a bit. 1 length mission -> 1 hacking pod, 2 length mission -> 2 pods, 3 length mission -> 2 pods + large cave gen.
But if they do that I also want the older, faster patrol bots back. Ofc I am not a game designer so my idea might have some flaws that I am not seeing.

[cold widget]

1 power station

just 1 power station

[dull orbit]

One power station is the obvious solution but they went more and more for cave gen and I don't know why

[tidal iron]

I can't wait to tell my friends who begrudgingly did the EDD last night with me that GSG reset it. Anyone beat sub 48 on it?

[molten jewel]

Just did a 48:58 on it 😦

[scenic kraken]

interesting update for Minigun gunners

they removed the turbo clicker slow heat build up and the endless burning hell glitch

as of todays patch

BUT spin storing still works

they also slight improved spin storing by removing the extra shots it takes when you go back to minigun

this is as of todays patch Season 03: PATCH 12 (build 81873 - 13/01/2023)

[turbid jolt]

Double caretaker is still on Xbox lol

I don't mind I actually wanted to do that but I switched my grenade to cryo 💀

[turbid jolt]

We are 53 min into elite and I'm just on the 3rd one

[distant rock]

I did about that earlier

I forgot the exact number

but I was surprised I got such a short time

[alpine spear]

theres no other oc that lets you tear through the shields stage in 3 seconds. Fatboy is the fastest way to clear out the caretaker

[wheat glen]

good luck with your ammo management i guess

i prefer to get things done quickly and efficiently, instead of take 5 grenades i'd rather have hyper propellent, or focus on waveclear with inferno/SPC BC

[dark cargo]

what

my guy what are you smoking

[alpine spear]

name one

[dark cargo]

what

fatboy is so bad at vents

u literally can have driller bring full dmg c4

and it 2 taps it

[alpine spear]

fatboy does it faster

same as driller

[dark cargo]

what

[alpine spear]

driller takes 4 throws

[dark cargo]

full dmg c4 does like 600 dmg

[alpine spear]

has to wait for the c4 to land

[dark cargo]

and?

u have to wait for fatboy to land

lmfao

[alpine spear]

fat boy shot are faster

you dont have to wait

at all

[dark cargo]

875 dmg > 400

[alpine spear]

try it first

[dark cargo]

💀

[alpine spear]

oooh more dmg

try it

[dark cargo]

bro

i have

and its useless

💀

[alpine spear]

yawn

skill issue problems

[dark cargo]

more like i can kill it faster '

with something else

💀

[alpine spear]

i doubt it

[dark cargo]

literally

[alpine spear]

down to do a speedrun test

[dark cargo]

if u are above it driller c4 will kill it faster

875 vs 400

[alpine spear]

lots of ifs, driller has to get there

[dark cargo]

yes and nuke aoe doesnt cover the entire thing

💀

u have to center it

[alpine spear]

see thats the skill

[dark cargo]

what?

bro

just stand above it

ez

[alpine spear]

getting it centered

im down to test this out

running a mission as engi vs driller

to see what runs faster

im sure the engi will outpace driller on IS

[dark cargo]

875 vs 400

[sinful notch]

if your trying to argue that engi is better then driller throughout the whole mission ur a degenerate

[alpine spear]

such a great contribution to a discussion

[sinful notch]

thx

[wheat glen]

im going to be honest, out of nearly 2900 hours in this game, i've never enjoyed fatboy in any game revolving around a boss, let alone using it entirely, as someone who plays with either a coordinated group, or soloing, i would 100% rather take consistency (e.g. breach cutter so i can clear waves with ease when the hacking pod is attacked) over just lobbing nuclear warheads that may not even strike the shields the way as "intended"

[dark cargo]

same

[alpine spear]

personal preferences are fine

doesnt answer the og question of if theres a faster way to tear through caretaker

[dark cargo]

tldr full dmg c4 is faster

[distant rock]

I gotta say the breach cutter is better but that fat boy makes my neurons activate in ways that no other thing can

[wheat glen]

that's understandable

and i completely find that valid, i can't really take that neuron away from you

[dark cargo]

so i am in a 4man team rn and we had our driller solo first vents phase, it took him 6 seconds.

on 2nd phase it took him 5 because he didnt have a stroke throwing the 2nd c4

[alpine spear]

no more ammo though, youll have to resupply twice to get to do it again

[sinful notch]

????????????????

????????????????????????????????????????????????????

same situation with fat boy

[alpine spear]

ill record a test

[sinful notch]

4p haz 5

[alpine spear]

yes

[sinful notch]

k do it

[dark cargo]

yes so will engi

it takes between 3-5 nukes

[sinful notch]

actually this is really simple math

if it takes 2 850 damage c4s to kill it

it takes 4-5 400 damge nukes to kill it

with the nukes

u give up your best option for damaging the eyes (hyper prop) where as driller does it faster and keeps both damage options open and uneffected

[wheat glen]

thank you for this, i knew driller c4s could get the job done, always rely on them for pretty much anything

[alpine spear]

i concede, full dmg driller is faster, engi is about 7 seconds for the 4 shots

non full dmg driller with max ammo can still do it in 4 c4

however engi will be slightly better ammo efficient

takes 4 shots

you have 5

[sinful notch]

yeah but driller has a full secondary

[alpine spear]

and on resupply once youll get enough to do the next round

just going for fastest here

which is driller c4

[sinful notch]

but that also implys ur using shotgun for primary

[alpine spear]

what is the exact health?

1600?

[sinful notch]

not sure

[alpine spear]

well it should be around that

[sinful notch]

yeah

[alpine spear]

1600x4

[dark cargo]

what

🤣

my guy ur bringing a secondary weapon for the sole purpose of shooting one part of one boss

[alpine spear]

yes, and? i dont have an issue playing with the loadout

we're not debating is it the best deep dive build

we were debating is it the fastest

its a close second

[sinful notch]

we are tho?

[alpine spear]

read the post

and see, is it the fastest or not was the question

its not the fastest, best build discussion are different

theyll never have fatboi in them

[dark cargo]

in no way is nuke better than c4 on any part of a sabo

[alpine spear]

i disagree

theres no objective answer to playstyles

[sinful notch]

there is

there absolutely is

there is a highest dps build

there is a highest damage/ammo build

[alpine spear]

yes and? your question is best builds

theres lots of stuff you're ignoring

[sinful notch]

elaborate

[alpine spear]

simplest way will be to speed run with a build and see

[dark cargo]

on certain missions? hell yes there are

[alpine spear]

if the question is, is it faster to finish this mission using this build, then speed run the deep dive with it

cant test for single missions

[sinful notch]

there is no way for that to be consistent

far to many variables

[alpine spear]

i agree

[sinful notch]

so the best way to test

is to look at the data

the reality is

[alpine spear]

so cant objectively test if its faster or not, just comes down to how you play with it

i hate fatboi, its a pretty shitty handicap

[sinful notch]

we can objectively test

[alpine spear]

but i find it best for caretakers

[sinful notch]

fatboy isnt the fastest to break open caretakers

and the damage you lose from not having a secondary will slow u down

far more

[dark cargo]

for deep dives ur getting way more use out of c4

[alpine spear]

its a close second and might be first if cavegen doesnt favour driller

[sinful notch]

just

[alpine spear]

im not arguing generality of build

[sinful notch]

use engi to make plat

[alpine spear]

im aware

[sinful notch]

if your arguing this for deep dives its fully braindead

[dark cargo]

like with higher mission variety ur gonna be way better off bringing something like breach or shard

[sinful notch]

if ur arguing this for sabo missions

its objectively worse then other options

AND you lose out on eye damage

wich i would say is engis strongsuit

[alpine spear]

i usually run a scout with m1k

with engi fatboi

that pretty much takes care of the combo

solo speedrunning the sabo isnt a fair comp between classes

because then other builds will trump it

[sinful notch]

so if ur bringing a second person for eye damage

why not just bring a driller

and bring hyperprop

have a better total dps

[alpine spear]

or a scout

[sinful notch]

engi brings no issues cave gen

[alpine spear]

either combo works

[sinful notch]

not really one combo lets u run the meta build a very generalist build and one requires you to spec your entire kit arround one interaction

[dark cargo]

nuke is far from meta

💀

[sinful notch]

yes

one combo (hyperprop and em) is a good generalist and meta the nujke makes u spec arround one interaction

[wanton ocean]

is that english

[humble dune]

Apparently

[heavy rock]

rt

fat boy is stupid on caretaker

[heavy rock]

actually not

[plucky moss]

that guy in the spider outfit is bussin

[pulsar marlin]

Fat boy scales horribly with player count

It does like no damage to vents on haz 5 4p

[minor helm]

some optimization can net a sub 24, but i have a feeling that some huge strat eludes me and could probably take it down even further

[fossil ruin]

Still room for improvement, can probably shave another 1-2 minutes off

[spare brook]

blind run

[burnt warren]

Forgot to take a screenshot after the EDD ended. Done with 3 random players.

[mossy solar]

damn

what a crazy edd

[thin whale]

||pay no attention to the time||

[keen jolt]

Seeing those two players with 11 & 17 downs respectively makes me think that I can join an EDD without worrying that much 🗿

I mean, doing Haz 4 without downs is good enough, eh?

[vital locust]

sticky fuel pp tcf
forgot 2nd stage was dreadnaughts but i managed to slog through it with the power of axes, tcf, and c4

also deathless

[bitter basin]

why would you worry? most ppl don't care even if you go down 20 times. Maybe you're playing after a shift, maybe you had a bad day and want to wind down it's fine mate .

[bitter basin]

i wouldn't call this a "speedrun" but i think it was good nuff

[dark cargo]

💀

[vital locust]

💀 on god

[turbid jolt]

@vital locust I'll be honest, I also took longer to do that edd, like 1:10 💀

[fringe briar]

Do you run with or without Bosco when playing solo?

[brisk magnet]

yea was not shouting i guess common sense is not so common not a great keyboard typist excuse me for living rock and stone your funny mention that like its a big deal jeezus

[distant rock]

how do you run without Bosco

[dark scarab]

From Bosco's terminal you can uncheck bring Bosco

[distant rock]

what the

[rotund widget]

I don't think it's speedrun-worthy but it was my first time doing deep dives! Normal was done with 2 players, edd with 4, all random

[timid crest]

Rock and stone.

[final thistle]

Second try of getting the speedrun achievement, wasn't as bad as I thought it would be

[unreal bane]

hell yeah, we did it

good job you three, if y'all see this

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Clouded Pearl
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 1 Black Box | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Corrosive Claw
Stage 1: Refine Liquid Morkite + 150 Morkite | Haunted Cave
Stage 2: 225 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Twins) + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen

[lone juniper]

this week's EDD is very speedrunnable

[safe quarry]

one of my few sub 30 ever!

[steel elbow]

Corrosive Claw

"Yes I mined the gold"

[green dirge]

First successful EDD, without deaths

Not really speedy but still happy

[lone juniper]

my first ever sub-30 solo EDD, actually stage 1 can be done with scout even without rocky mountain

probably could be even faster with dark morkite

[heavy rock]

first run

@fossil ruin @minor helm highly recommend you guys try your hand at the edd this week, it's quite easy and can be done very efficiently

[fossil ruin]

I ran through it and I’m going to try to get sub-20. Each map layout is super fast and simple

[minor helm]

I can give it a try... did it all ready with a casual solo run and it went pretty smooth.

[minor helm]

EDD was pretty fun. I like it better than the DD this week. Speedrunning the EDDs isn't my forte but in 4 attempts I brought my time down by 12 minutes, which I'm happy to see. I'll definitely be looking to bring this down.

[distant rock]

like 4th attempt just to get below 45 mins

[blazing edge]

U guys are beasts holy

[lone juniper]

beni, what are your times for each stage?

[fossil ruin]

8:30, 13:19, 18:55

[lone juniper]

damn those are some sick times 🔥

[wise sundial]

What's your loadout?

[fossil ruin]

Drak-25: 2, 2, 1, 3, 2 + Overtuned Particle Accelerator
Zhukov: 1, 1, 2, 3, 2 + Embedded Detonators
Cryo Grenades

[plucky moss]

woops

wrong chat

[wise sundial]

Thanks!

[spare brook]

blind

[minor helm]

gonna go for the sub 20

[spare brook]

blind run. I am really good at dying

[minor helm]

Got it, though trying to get good rng is a nightmare

[midnight granite]

WTF!

[distant rock]

how did you die 7 times

I thought Bosco can only revive a max of 4

[fossil ruin]

That's per mission. There are 3 missions. It resets each stage of the Deep Dive

[distant rock]

ah

I forgot it counted every mission

[dark cargo]

downless based

now do it w/o bosco

[orchid pebble]

What is the current world record for the fastest deep dive?

[proud nova]

I'm not sure, but you could always check in the speedrunning discord ? It's in #fan-communities

[glacial raven]

8:15 for EDD and 8:24 for DD

For the fastest ever done

[orchid pebble]

Thank you I will now attempt to break that record even though I’m on bronze one with scout

[proud nova]

good luck !

[orchid pebble]

Rock and stone, brother

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Scout's Face
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Rival Presence
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Hiveguard) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Swarmageddon

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Pale Bed
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Hiveguard + Classic) + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness Rival Presence
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + Recover Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster

[hushed storm]

``

[lone juniper]

looks like this week is another speedrunnable one, stage 2 refinery doesnt require driller

[distant rock]

no sabo this week 😭

[alpine spear]

you can even manipulate the droppod location in this weeks dd

[turbid jolt]

@distant rock should've been there for the double IS, man it took so long to finish 💀

[distant rock]

I wish I could've played

[haughty steppe]

same

[rocky flume]

poggies

[static birch]

K-karl? Is that you?

[blazing edge]

crazy good gaming chair i assume, even my loading times were slower than that

[alpine spear]

nord vpn bro

[clear echo]

His drop pod fell directly on top of all the enemies and objectives, then just carried straight on out through the other side of Hoxxes

[soft ocean]

[sleek grove]

😮

[spare brook]

blind

[minor helm]

idk what it is about this run but it feels kinda like a slog despite it being about 20 mins. Gonna go for sub 20

[cunning sentinel]

took a bit long on stage 2 but pretty good dd

[heavy rock]

first run

[bleak ferry]

Everyone getting 20mins and I can’t even get a completion 🤣

[soft ocean]

rip my man

[green dirge]

Owie ;-;

[minor helm]

Got the sub 20. My sum of best is a low 19, so I think a sub 19 is possible.

[cyan kite]

Quick question: What's the hardest combo of mutations and objectives for a dd speedrun

[static birch]

Really depends on your playstyle and team no objective is arguably the easiest or hardest
Same with mutations it depends how you confront and handle them

[spare brook]

without putting too much thought into it, I'd have to say the worst for solo runs would be an industrial sabotage with black box and low o2, then a doreta with a dread and elites, finally finish it off with 6 eggs, a black box, and mactera plague

the first two just take forever and the last one can go very wrong if you're trying to speed run 6 eggs on an edd

[cyan kite]

Really? Usually when I play solo scout eggs can go pretty fast and painless

But I don't really know anything

[spare brook]

if there was a black box with the 6 eggs, I'd be trying to sit in the black box with bosco pulling the eggs, then try to get the rest of the eggs as soon as possible after the black box without fighting swarms. As a scout on an edd that can go bad fast, especially with mactera plague

[cyan kite]

Yeah that sounds bad

I applaud everyone here who speedruns these things basically for fun

I can barely do a deep dive without dying 15 times

[spare brook]

it can be a pain in the ass sometimes (especially on edd), but that's part of the fun

[alpine spear]

Does animation cancelling work on the uplink/any repair thing?

[minor helm]

nope

[proud nova]

no, and it actually make them repair slower.

[alpine spear]

Ah k

[clear echo]

But you still see people doing it

[proud nova]

because it's funny

[native elk]

hammer go bonk exactly

[distant rock]

this was too funny 😭

[ruby timber]

**The true speedrun for a dwarf is a drunk one. **Start to drink a Blackout Stout then enter in the pod and do your job drunk as fuck. Stouts and Stones, brothers !

[bitter basin]

i don't trust this file

[ruby timber]

I don't know why it's not in video player mode

Mmmmh maybe i have an idea 😄

File deleted, trust refield in progress

[spare brook]

We should get some drunk dd races going

[quaint grove]

Wait, does this work with craft beer effects too?

[ruby timber]

I don't know, I haven't unlocked all the beers. What is certain is that the timing matters between the moment you drink and the moment you enter the Pod.

Be carefull, it's only for elite dwarfs with a stone liver

[clear echo]

It doesn’t work with any special effects, only drunkenness level

[molten venture]

If you change classes before the effect wears off it’s permanent

[clear echo]

FOREVER

[molten venture]

As long as the session lasts

[alpine spear]

stone liver you mean

[ruby timber]

Yes, modification done. My english is not good 😅

[quaint grove]

Noted, I'll keep this in mind

[quaint grove]

Yoooo, watch me about to go into Haz 5 Elimination on a mug of Flintlocke's

[molten venture]

Just wait until your first underhill mission, its beautiful

[night quiver]

what about smart stout mission

[quaint grove]

I wonder if you go in on a mug of Blonde if you'll still be able to shoot at all lol

[frozen sphinx]

anyone doin deep dive rn?

[weary knoll]

??

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Hideous Claw
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: Protect the Drilldozer + 150 Morkite | Elite Threat
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Volatile Guts

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Mad Covert
Stage 1: 7 Aquarq + 2 Eggs | No Mutators
Stage 2: 225 Morkite + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Shield Disruption
Stage 3: 4 Eggs + Classic Dreadnought | Low Oxygen

[distant rock]

we need an API/bot for this fr 😔

[alpine spear]

i mean.. GB stands for greatest bot

[limber turtle]

kind of a calm this time (except magma core)

[patent blaze]

Sandblasted corridor my beloved

[dark cargo]

low gravity 🤮

[spare brook]

glad I'm not the only one

[bitter basin]

No one posted their times? 👀

[spare brook]

👀 I'll run it in a sec

[spare brook]

blind

could have and should have been much faster. I'm just an idiot who can't see shiny blue rocks and forgets to grab eggs

to anyone trying to low grav drop pod clip: it's a lot easier if you stand on the little elevated piece of molly door and then spam the buttons to clip as you're falling/sliding off

you'll stick to the wall when you get the clip, then just jump inwards and be ready to grapple downwards so you don't fly out the top of the pod

[dull orbit]

Honestly this could probably be done fairly easily if they fire the data to an endpoint and put the interactions url on the bot, it would be nice

[distant rock]

there an API for the seed already but no way to decode it

I was working on that last night but it's probably a hash

[coral sleet]

What is WR time?

[proud nova]

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

[coral sleet]

Thx

[short pike]

first deep dive in a month did pretty well with randos (i dont mean the time lol)

[proud nova]

then its place is more in #drg-gallery

[cold widget]

aight thanbks

[weary knoll]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im

[burnt warren]

you're?

[weary knoll]

percy

deep roke

[burnt warren]

yeah.... I get you

[weary knoll]

good

[proud nova]

[fossil ruin]

W/Dark Morkite. Stage 3 went poorly. Could've saved another 30-60 seconds.

[rich vortex]

Shitty run. Could have saved a lot of time if I didn't spend 5 hours doing literally nothing.

[minor helm]

i dont think i'll sweat this run any further, doesn't feel fun to me

[dark cargo]

i have finally learned how to do the funny bhopping by spec powdering into the ground

[vital locust]

pogo jumpacademy lmfao

[dark cargo]

ye

i have mastered it

[river epoch]

Played elite, last stage was killing boss. We lost all ammo in his 25%

We killed Dredd by pickaxe. Spent almost 2 hour on deep dive total.

Anti-speedrun.
[Sry, no screen, joined only today and didnt know that server have thematic cbat]

[green dirge]

Not very speedy but this is my fastest EDD among all I have done

[alpine spear]

wut? theres soooo much ammo in this edd

and its a glyphid dread

[alpine spear]

watch benicopters video

it will help you

[river epoch]

That was 4 eggs and dredd. Not somuch nitra, tbf, also we started with eggs (i suggested start from dredd) and bc of that also killed 3 swarms.
We came to dread with 25% ammo each

[alpine spear]

you dont get swarms in egg missions unless you pull the swarm egg

theres enough ammo in stage 1 for all 3 levels of the edd

but you are correct, start the dread fight first

pull all eggs after

and run

[river epoch]

Guess what we did, cos its eggs mission.

Also there was tonns of ambushes, so we came to dread almost naked

[alpine spear]

you cant have 3 swarms in a 4 egg mission mate

what level players were you playing with?

bronze? silver? gold?

[river epoch]

As u say, mb 3rd was not a swa but constant ambush, i dont remember quite good cos after that fought with dread for 1 hour

We all bronze was

[alpine spear]

ah makes sense

you will get better

[river epoch]

I know, haz 5 one love

[alpine spear]

my run with randos without comms this week was 31 mins

there were 2 bronze and 1 plat

so it matters only if your team knows what to do

[river epoch]

Fastest was 25 min i guess, but that was classic, not elite.

Even got achieve.

Funny, u have tonns of achievs but no achievment for buying all beer licence, buy all items in store for single class or get all perks

[green dirge]

okai

I just do EDDs solo for a challenge but maybe I will get to speed slowly

[green dirge]

I only got one swarm so this was a bit confusing initially

But I see

[jolly scarab]

not fast but no casualties

[alpine spear]

yup its 1 swarm

[tame hornet]

Not sure what's the record for regular but i feel we barely missed any time

[proud nova]

the world record ?

it's a bit more than 8min

[tame hornet]

How can it be? I'm new to this so idk but 8 min seems unrealistic to me, unless there are glitches idk about

[proud nova]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qstQT0NDg

[tame hornet]

Oh, it's one from a year ago, thought it was for the current rotation

I was like damn, just building the pipes and waiting for the hordes to finish takes 8 min

[proud nova]

oh that probably doesn't mean much for them

this one or another, what's the difference at this point

[tame hornet]

It's still pretty impressive tho

[alpine spear]

what are all the spots for clipping into pod?

[stoic nimbus]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1bD4y1N7rj/?vd_source=a1cf0cf861732b9ee0922a2a74b6a75c#reply736433043

I think my limit is about 17min50s.This week's deep diving is very suitable for speedrun.

[lime flower]

2nd deep dive ever

1st solo dive, didnt go down

has a really really rough canister phase in escort with 3-4 elite menaces oneshotting dozer so lost 4h on stage 2

[warm tulip]

.

[dark cargo]

not exactly a speedrun but oof

[small linden]

||Cat walking on the moon||

[round egret]

so fasst

nyyoom nyoom

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Pale Carve
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: Refine Liquid Morkite + Classic Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: Collect Data Rack + 150 Morkite | Low Oxygen

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Morning Summit
Stage 1: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Twins | No Mutators
Stage 2: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Rich Atmosphere Mactera Plague
Stage 3: Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation

[fossil ruin]

I second this motion

[spare brook]

I'll record the blind run this week and upload it if I don't fail. No guarantees tho, I'm pretty good at dying

[spare brook]

I also just realized I have my edd pb of 13:14 from that good seed a while ago that I never uploaded. I die a couple times being stupid, but it's a pretty good run overall

[fossil ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/well-waiting-caddyshack-gif-5385414

[spare brook]

@vale ravine @fossil ruin edd pb is up

Thanks man. I'm not up for all the consistent posting and thumbnail making that'd be required to get more views tho

I'll try to post a couple good runs here and there for you guys on here

[fossil ruin]

Appreciate you posting! Excited to watch 👍🏻

[vital locust]

Where can I find the vid?

[spare brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpk4Uo_ASUA

[vital locust]

Tysm!

[quick cradle]

Ngl the EDD sounds easier

[stable nest]

only reason would be sabo but that's easy, mutators on EDD are way worse

[green dirge]

Solo mactera plague is hard

unless you got freeze

[stoic nimbus]

The first level and the second level are too difficult

This is my ultimate achievement. I will upload my video later

[tired ocean]

Complete the EDD in 1 second or you eat gunk seeds

[stoic nimbus]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1U84y1H7L3/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0&vd_source=a1cf0cf861732b9ee0922a2a74b6a75c

[minor dune]

It's not

[turbid jolt]

Ngl it was a surprisingly easy edd, the DD also has like 800+ nitra and you could save like 600 ish nitra + that missions nitra for low o2

[plucky moss]

wait oop

wrong place

[spare brook]

Not blind. I failed on the first stage a couple times being greedy and once on stage 2 too

[spare brook]

I commend you for running this dive. It sucks

[stoic nimbus]

The position of worm eggs in the first stage is too scattered

It is difficult to complete the task quickly

[spare brook]

I picked a bad pit to gather my eggs in. It ended up just being a bowl for a roller to zoom around in and keep killing me

[spare brook]

https://youtu.be/11iwiKgrw_Q

[spare brook]

That video looks faster than it should be. I think I squished it or something in the video editor. I’ll fix it tomorrow (nvm the video speed is fine. My brain was slow last night)

[cold widget]

not neccesarily a speedrun, but true solo

wish i at least had some sort of buff beer

[stoic nimbus]

Your first stage should be one minute faster, because I didn't skip the stage back. I spent 5 minutes and 27 seconds in the first phase

You can redistribute the digging and access order of worm eggs

Your secondary weapon module can be replaced with a higher damage, which can help you kill the boss faster

[stoic nimbus]

You are not very familiar with the map of Phase II. You can also speed up the map of Phase II by one minute

[spare brook]

Yea, you're right. I'm too stubborn to switch off special powder though

[minor helm]

sheesh this DD feels like a cutscene

[hearty trout]

Was intense this week

[round egret]

should've just solo'd it...

[green dirge]

Soloing it is not much better :>

[round egret]

i'm probably going to try it if i can find time between now and tomorrow

[round egret]

bosco carry support please

[keen crypt]

what armor set is that

[formal bough]

The armor is Scale Brigade.

Helmet looks like a Season 3 unlockable.

[sudden wolf]

It's the lvl 100 armour and the doom helmet is from the season pass

[silver copper]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Tainted Jewel
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: 7 Aquarq + Dreadnought Twins | Exploder Infestation
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Swarmageddon

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Glacial Strata | Code Name: Fearful Luck
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 2: 250 Morkite + Classic Dreadnought | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + Black Box | Swarmageddon

[blazing edge]

carried by greybeards

[placid spoke]

It's nothing like a doom helmet though.

[stable nest]

it has significant resemblance to the new doomguy helmet, therefore it is the doom helmet

[stoic nimbus]

Give me a little more time, I can run for 14 minutes

Just 13 seconds away

😣

There are too many monsters in the first and second stages

[green dirge]

Yo nice!

[stoic nimbus]

wtf！This is a little beyond my imagination

I can't believe I ran 13m56s

[fossil ruin]

Nicely done! What were your times for each stage?

[stoic nimbus]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17e4y1c7Rg/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0&vd_source=a1cf0cf861732b9ee0922a2a74b6a75c

[stoic nimbus]

stage1 3m40 2 8m57 3 13m56

[green dirge]

Now sub 10 it, both of you

[placid spoke]

I have a literal doom helmet behind me, from the collectors edition. It barely resembles it. In that case every helmet with a large visor can be a doom helmet.

[old geyser]

Anyone able to help me on an elite dive at all please?

[fossil ruin]

w/dark morkite

[old geyser]

I just need to complete one for the trophy. Would be greatly appreciated

[spare brook]

goddamn those are some fast times. I'll have to see what I can get this weekend

[broken cargo]

EDD last stage was so tough that we lost it two times while playing with randoms, so we decided to spam bunker

[lethal jackal]

I see that swarmageddon at the last stage of both DDs and a smile creeps across my face as I load flak rounds into my auto-cannons.

I remember when I went to a swarmageddon mission at hazard 5. My friends got worried when I said, “I’ll hold them off,” stepping into a cramped tunnel. They weren’t worried after the slaughter.

[vital locust]

i made the mistake of bringing vb instead of hellfire to a 6x2 swarmageddon mission yesterday 💀

[stoic nimbus]

wo！！！
can i watch you speedrunning video, wanting to learn your route. 😘

I see the video In another plate，thanks！

[stoic nimbus]

Why can you stop the timer by pressing the abort button when you finish the task? Have you installed mod?

I waste a few seconds on it every time😫

[fossil ruin]

It’s not a mod, but I guess it could be considered a “glitch”. Saves around 8 seconds each time

[stoic nimbus]

I always thought that if I pressed it, I would give up the task. I didn't dare to press it🥲

[fossil ruin]

Just make sure to wait until you lose control of your character. If you do it too soon you will actually abort the mission

[stoic nimbus]

thanks，bro
Your last move into the airborne bunker is really very handsome. It's the first time I saw you go in this way！That's so cool！😂

[dry yarrow]

love how the drg achievement for a speedy deep dive is 45 minutes

and you guys get it done in 15

[stoic nimbus]

If you are playing scout, I can give you some quick advice.

[dry yarrow]

sure

i'm pretty new but glad to learn

[stoic nimbus]

You need to plan the route of express, and try to kill as few monsters as possible

Killing too many monsters will waste your time. You only need to kill some monsters that must be killed

[dry yarrow]

does avoiding kills fill up the monster count?

[stoic nimbus]

No, there is an upper limit on the number of monsters

If you kill, there will be new monsters

[dry yarrow]

ok

[vital locust]

Only kill the things that are an immediate threat, like if you don't kill it you will certainly die then definitely get rid of it

[dry yarrow]

is there a trick for doing dreadnought eliminations quickly?

or just the ordinary way

[stoic nimbus]

It doesn't need to kill monsters to pass quickly. It only needs to complete the task

[vital locust]

depending on the other objective its usually best to do the dreadnaught while also doing the second objective