Oh boy new deep dives
#deep-dive-discussion
potent jewel
hollow citrus
salt pits pls
if we get dense biozone, glacial or azure I will be very disappointed
dull nexus
past sleet
I just hope there won't be too many swarmers on EDD, else I'll feel like a greenbeard again
next vessel
when will the pinned message be updated? or is it alrady updated?
random rampart
when will the pinned message be updated? or is it alrady updated?
The message updates when the dives change. No one here knows what they'll be beforehand, not even the devs
calm hedge
so I finished my first deep dive, and it was solo. do they normally take this long or am I just slow? finished in an hour and 9 min
obtuse pasture
so I finished my first deep dive, and it was solo. do they normally take this lo...
you were being cautious don't worry
calm hedge
whats a good length to aim for?
obtuse pasture
also solo killing dreads fast takes practice and solo players often collect more nitra "just in case" if going in blind
calm hedge
the first stage of this week was easily the longest part, but the refining was probs the hardest, elites are obnoxious
obtuse pasture
whats a good length to aim for?
for a normal DD it depends on what the missions are. Some mission types play a LOT faster than others.. on a good week some players will finish a DD sub 30 easy
calm hedge
gotcha
obtuse pasture
gotcha
check #deep-dive-speedrunning for times
ornate badger
1hr for first try is not bad yea
obtuse pasture
I did a solo EDD run this week (no deaths) sub 1 hour - and I was playing pretty slowly
Also some of the speedrunners will run the same DD/EDD multiple times once they have a plan/path for maximums effeciency
calm hedge
didnt die a single time myself either, just spent a ton of time grappling and kiting
do people play more aggressively?
obtuse pasture
some people VERY
My regular DD buddy and I pulled all 4 eggs at the same time and started the blackbox in stage 3 :p
after a while you know what you can get away with.. a lot of people will play stage 1 crazy mode because worst case you repeat it.. stage 3 is often a slow play particularly if escort missions or really awful map layouts
lime dirge
Oh yeah I love these big waves
Gunner puts up a shield and you can just see bugs all around it
It's great
obtuse pasture
it was engi+gunner for that mission so we were messing around pretty hard
If you are used to regular Haz5 then you can go pretty wild in a regular DD
lime dirge
Yeeee
idle meteor
after a while you know what you can get away with.. a lot of people will play st...
i can vouch for this statwment. The group i played the recent edd wuth finished stage 1 in kess than 5 minutes (driller tyvm for that god tier bunker i wish i remembered ur name)
obtuse pasture
this weeks EDD stage 1 was SUPER easy.. I finished it solo in 9 min or so
The dotty in this weeks EDD was a harrowing solo experience for me.. lots of close calls
polar ivy
guys i think they should at dodgeing (rolling)
calm hedge
do you get rewards for repeating a deep dive?
blazing current
You get the same exp, but cores are given on first playthrough only
vocal saddle
how did you do that
blazing current
how did you do that
<t:TIMESTAMP:STYLE>
Style is optional
Timestamp is unix time
boreal moss
blazing current
There you go
exotic notch
ETA on the new DD's?
vocal saddle
ETA on the new DD's?
i just gave the time
exotic notch
i just gave the time
Timezones exist....
simple wharf
If you hover over it, it auto adjusts it seems.
exotic notch
What the
blazing current
<t:1658401200:t>
This one is with timezone adjusted
exotic notch
Okay that's neat
vocal saddle
yea
simple wharf
How you do that?
vocal saddle
<t:TIMESTAMP:STYLE>
here
exotic notch
<t:20:00:STYLE>
vocal saddle
UNIX TIME
vocal saddle
vocal saddle
put that time in and copy and paste number
blazing current
Style is optional, like I said
vocal saddle
oh i think you need developer tools enabled?
exotic notch
<t:21072022200000:STYLE>
vocal saddle
i have that enabled
simple wharf
Not even sure how I got involved, came over here checking on charters.
exotic notch
lol
vocal saddle
use t for style
blazing current
Remove the style
exotic notch
<t:1658426400>
blazing current
<t:1658401200>
vocal saddle
t style gives just the time no date
simple wharf
Try using ` on either end to show commands.
exotic notch
Ah okay neat I get it
simple wharf
such as this becoming *this*
exotic notch
So the number is the amount of seconds that have passed since 1jan 1970 (UTC)
blazing current
Yes
vocal saddle
why this specific date?
exotic notch
Probably invented around that time
Or maybe invented at around a time where enough seconds have passed as to keep the total amount of digits the same as that'd be more practical/less jarring
blazing current
It was indeed the most convenient
vocal saddle
yeap 1970 seems good
simple wharf
At least they choose something that was convient. A good day to start, a first, and ends neatly in zero.
vocal saddle
fair enough
simple wharf
(And a lotta hubhub happened pre 1970, so they just choose the full number year.
Anywho, back to deep dives.
manic pivotBOT
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New 
Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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ivory marten
Woop woop
humble zinc
https://www.unixtimestamp.com/index.php
There is a easier and more intuitive site that converts and creates the timestamp for you. But idk if I can share links here lel
vocal saddle
i mean i just shared a link
humble zinc
Well fair enough..
https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/
vocal saddle
oh nice just straight to discord format
humble zinc
Yep
dawn zealot
anybody here like going in blind to deep dives
quiet burrow
me
dawn zealot
Its fun sometimes, even solo it can be fun
Though it can be rough, im gonna have nightmares of that recent bough edd, the second stage room was horrid for me
It was almost as bad as a simple mining mission
manic pivotBOT
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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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humble zinc
ivory marten
And so it begins.
quiet mortar
DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Everlasting Ditch
Stage 1: 
Protect the Drilldozer + 
2 M.U.L.E.s | 
Mactera Plague
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 
2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity
ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Azure Weald | Code Name: Calm Ceiling
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 
Dreadnought Hiveguard | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 2: 
200 Morkite + Dreadnought Classic | Rich Atmosphere Regenerative Bugs
Stage 3: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
ivory marten
Now we wait for the Pin to-
blazing current
No glacial strata sadge
ivory marten
Oh god that's terrible.
sly vapor
it's basically last edd final stage
ivory marten
Mactera Plague on a Escort/Salvage.
humble zinc
lel
ivory marten
Pain.
blazing current
Gonna try doing blind for this week's
humble zinc
escort duty on haz3 is not that hard
ivory marten
Salvage on the other hand with fucking Macteras...
solemn vine
Salvage on the other hand with fucking Macteras...
building a roof should make it quite easy
humble zinc
well since i just woke up imma do the core hunts on haz4
should help me wake up :v
idle meteor
they really did give the most beautiful biome the most cringe worldgen
ivory marten
Max length biozone mining mission with rival presence...
wonderful.
solemn vine
lok1 automatically finding leeches for me
idle meteor
yeah i was gonna say that lol
brazen musk
Anything annoying from the regular deep dive is largely nullified by the fact it's hazard 3
obtuse pasture
Anything annoying from the regular deep dive is largely nullified by the fact it...
facts
regular DD you can run into almost any combo and it isn't that bad
brazen musk
Basically
I already unlocked all weapon overclocks but I like doing them for the remaining cosmetics, helping a friend and the challenge (in the elite that is)
obtuse pasture
the only thing that can really ruin your day (in normal DD) is things like escort missions with elites + regen bugs with bad map gen and you get a bunch of elite regenerating menaces pounding dotty into the ground but too far away to burst down
brazen musk
I hate regen grabbers
obtuse pasture
regen elite grabbers :p
obtuse pasture
yup
pseudo jacinth
hm edd usual routine or is there something that everyone should know about first?
ivory marten
At least it's not oops all dreads.
solemn vine
how much more damage is lethal enemies?#
random rampart
how much more damage is lethal enemies?#
check the wiki
exotic notch
Wow DD stage 2, that one pump is hidden
potent vector
stage 3 DD: drilldozer + 2 eggs : low gravity
sly kettle
stage 3 DD: drilldozer + 2 eggs : low gravity
Double escort duty week?!
That's disgusting.
exotic notch
double escort pff
potent vector
DD's a breeze, got a really solid team. no bs pre-spawns, just 1-2 leeches and 1-2 spitballers here and there
1st egg is very high up, but since it's low grav, engi can just platform jump up
restart game?
oh btw since it's 2 escort duties, finishing the DD under 45 mins might be a bit hard. so rush it if you want that achievement.
idle meteor
<:Deep_Dive:631070801898242061>**DEEP DIVE**<:Deep_Dive:631070801898242061>
Regi...
NO EDD SHIELD DISRUPTION LES GOOOOO
but also lethal enemies stage 3...
ivory marten
Anyone wanna help me with the deep dive for today?
next vessel
ye double drilldozer sounds annoying but its easier difficulty anyway
sick lake
Easier difficulty?
sick lake
Oh i dont do edds anyway lol
next vessel
try to win atleast 1 stage of edd atleast u get 1 extra oc
sick lake
I havent even unlocked haz 5 lel
Haz 3 is like the extent of stress me and my crew are willing to cope with lol
merry lagoon
Hows this weeks edd?
cobalt moat
Hows this weeks edd?
plenty nitra in both
errant moat
Two escorts? 
echo storm
well there was that one time it was 2 escorrs for both of them
and the other week where it was 2 refinery
this edd seems like there will need to be some neuron activation
timber rune
Jfc this weeks dd
What does JFC mean?
sick lake
Jesus fuckin christ
dreamy turret
any kind engi or driller can join the pug edd right now in NA? not on any discord. We've just been waiting a while
lethal yacht
make sure your lobby setting is set to public
dreamy turret
it is, we had a third join, just been waiting for a while for 1 more
minor bloom
It is early in the workday
vital horizon
I thought people liked the escort missions 😦
obtuse pasture
I thought people liked the escort missions 😦
helllllll no
drowsy hollow
third stage of the EDD fucked us over bc of claustrophobic space and lethal enemies plus a bulk spawned in the vicinity immediately after we triggered enemy spawn by pulling out the 3rd leg, but hey, at least I got a fun OC in overdrive booster
vital horizon
@obtuse pasture Because they are difficult or tedious?
obtuse pasture
<@77501061648101376> Because they are difficult or tedious?
very repetitive.. same sequence every time.. stopping is a chore.. no exploration really and map layout is pretty much locked in
vital horizon
yea that makes sense
obtuse pasture
Also.. as a regular solo EDD player.. I HATE escort solo.. it it by far the worst thing you can see.. even salvage is better most of the time
burnt sandal
I thought people liked the escort missions 😦
most people don't care about escort tbh
vital horizon
@obtuse pasture I like the aquarq missions most in solo since I can make Bosco do it all for me 
obtuse pasture
The frustrating thing about escort is either it is trivially easy or you get some garbage and dotty gets obliterated
obtuse pasture
<@77501061648101376> I like the aquarq missions most in solo since I can make Bo...
Bosco is also damn good at fetching eggs and building pipelines
vital horizon
@obtuse pasture He's a good friend to have around, that's for sure.
obtuse pasture
<@77501061648101376> He's a good friend to have around, that's for sure.
if you want a truly brutal challenge EDD solo - no bosco
vital horizon
@obtuse pasture 😵💫
drowsy hollow
Is that even possible to accomplish? The difficulty doesn't get toned down right?
as opposed to comparing going solo or alongside multiple players
bleak wharf
<@77501061648101376> Because they are difficult or tedious?
tedious
burnt sandal
Is that even possible to accomplish? The difficulty doesn't get toned down right...
the hazard level doesn't change but difficulty also scale with the number of players
bleak wharf
extremely tedious and boring
vital horizon
I like how you can save dotty at the end c:
bleak wharf
ok
cobalt meadow
that last mission on the edd looks awful
dawn zealot
It is
dawn zealot
Yeah
dawn zealot
Blue and red with coral
thorn jewel
Oh thank god
spice tree
...... that cave leech in the first stop of the first stage tho
I just wanted to mine the oil shale and it took me back up all the way to the space rig lmao
and then when it died I fell alllllll the way back down and died
and then dotty got swarmed
dawn zealot
Funny story about that leech I uhh, had no m1k, so I used my shotgun to kill it and uhh
Special powder works both ways
Which I knew but for some reason my brain farted
blazing current
Did you propel yourself to the ground?
spice tree
I was playing gunner so getting out of the pit was difficult
I almost lost another bosco revive
anyways I usually don't see cave leeches in normal missions without that one accursed modifier that turns it into a survival horror game, let alone two in a row
dawn zealot
The egg room on that one stage had like 4 leeches for me
frigid fog
im new here but wanted to ask what do u get from deep dive elites ?
dawn zealot
Cores and overclocks
spice tree
bosco just blocked one of my elephant rounds.........
frigid fog
Cores and overclocks
oke ty
spice tree
THE 90 DEGREE CAVE LEECH STRIKES AGAIN
WHAT IS WITH THE CAVE LEECHES IN STAGE 1
I tamed a guard like 3 times and it just kinda refused to work :(
this is normal not edd btw
IT TAMED THE WRONG STEEVE
NOOOOOO STEEVE WALKED STRAIGHT INTO FIRE AND DIED
blazing current
THE 90 DEGREE CAVE LEECH STRIKES AGAIN
Horizontal leeches are the worst
dreamy terrace
third stage elit and leaver feel so good
spice tree
no not the regenerating mactera swarm I beg of you please no
rip me
a silicate harvester got caught in the crossfire and torn to shreds, oops
not to mention the ~20 lootbugs or so
two incendiary grenades later and the entire swarm and half of my health bar is gone
steeve really saved me there but man do I need a resupply
I just noticed I only have 21 autocannon rounds left
waxen terrace
lol i repelled a leech with my drills on this DD
short bluff
mactera plague escort 
marsh plover
Snowball cryo gun
short bluff
no have
pseudo knoll
3rd stage EDD is lethal enemies? holy fuck
+defense on uplink vs lethal enemies
cool
dense shard
Don't forget the bulks as well!
spice tree
bruh MC told me to start up the pump sequence right after telling me to launch the rocket
anyways after an hour of hardship I got to claim my reward: active stability system
game did not want me to have much fun today
short bluff
blowthrough m1k moment
spice tree
at least I got my playlist on in the background to motivate me
and this last one should be more fun than tough since no annoying hazard, low grav, and the objective combination isn't hellish
now I'm the one that can fly
ebon anchor
Some people may find the challenge fun
But I don't really think having my entire shield blown away by a bite from a guard is fun
ebon anchor
Anyway EDD was fine for this week except for stage 3. I hated it.
Accidentally run into a swarm cos you can't see anything in Azure Weald and you are instantly dead before you can dash out
Just 4 grunts bite you at the same time and your health is down to nothing
next vessel
had like 800 spare nitra this deep dive lmao
blazing current
Does lethal enemies affect glyphid swarmers?
ebon anchor
They do
blazing current
Huh alright then look out for silent swarmageddon
ebon anchor
There's a lot on stage 3
next vessel
either im getting better at the game or this week was easy
ebon anchor
If you find stage 3 easy you are already above the average player
blazing current
It was challenging but I got a competent team
ebon anchor
Seems about right then
I checked Reddit as well and I think the general consensus is "easy to challenging"
From the comments so far anyway
short bluff
how do you defend lethal enemies salvage on haz5.5
jolly hazel
how do you defend lethal enemies salvage on haz5.5
kill the bugs faster than they get to you
🧠
gloomy dome
Gunner ntp with fear..
Sticky flame builds
Engi as engi
Aggressive venting scooot
jolly hazel
slow+fear yes
short bluff
can you bunker on 5.5 salvage or is that suboptimal
jolly hazel
and prep the area as much as you want because you have 3 missions of extra nitra
I mean you can
real dwarves dont bunker though
gloomy dome
can you bunker on 5.5 salvage or is that suboptimal
Idk how the terrain generates so i cant tell yet
short bluff
my issue with salvage is large bug packs and the potential for a detonator spawn
jolly hazel
the latter is something you just have to deal with on the fly
gunner shield bounces it back
gloomy dome
Detonator isnt an issue with gunner... Large packs is tho
jolly hazel
and you can all vacate the sphere if you need to during the explosion
gloomy dome
Just try the best cc builds lol even if it isnt fun
jolly hazel
Detonator isnt an issue with gunner... Large packs is tho
its the other way around imo lol
echo storm
if u know how to throw shields to make the detonator go away it's not too bad
gloomy dome
its the other way around imo lol
Detonator is fairly quick to kill tho.. you can push them away with gunner
jolly hazel
detonator only becomes a real problem when it spawns on top of you or somewhere that you can't see it
short bluff
do you just chuck it directly onto the detonator or what
gloomy dome
Its gurgle is hard to miss because the sound is ptsd inducing
short bluff
you can hear those things from like miles away
jolly hazel
Detonator is fairly quick to kill tho.. you can push them away with gunner
its still a autocannon mag/2 cycles of lead storm minigun, and God forbid your teammates decide to shoot it too
meaning 5 slashers are on ur ass
jolly hazel
Its gurgle is hard to miss because the sound is ptsd inducing
yeah but I've had shitty uplinks where it spawns on a sheer cliff and the dread spawns at the bottom of the cliff
gloomy dome
its still a autocannon mag/2 cycles of lead storm minigun, and God forbid your t...
A shield duration is enough to kill a det if you're team focuses on it
blazing current
Detonator is in the spawnpool in stage 3 so yeah
Highly against bunkering for that
jolly hazel
A shield duration is enough to kill a det if you're team focuses on it
on haz 5? I guess so but it won't last for the explosion
and I am 80% sure I have been killed by the blast in a shield
jolly hazel
yeah I mentioned that earlier lol
blazing current
I as a scout just kite the detonator yes
lusty shuttle
How hard are the DDs today?
gloomy dome
How hard are the DDs today?
Ony stage 3 edd is concerning
jolly hazel
I'll take lethal enemies salvage over shield disruption salvage though
funny mactera instakill
blazing current
Embed detonator helped me a lot in killing the HVTs
short bluff
How hard are the DDs today?
normal deep dive is easy, but annoying, simply for the fact that it's 2 drilldozer missions and it's in fungus bogs
potent vector
had to bust out the ntp for EDD
damn stage 3 was a ride
praise the lord there was no bulks during the uplink/fueling sequence
even though 2 bulks spawned during egg swarms
short bluff
ntp is simply amazing for crowds
fear bullets and neurotoxin to scare them off so they die from poison
old widget
Yep, NTP AC basically lowers Haz level a couple of ticks
EZ mode
In a game where survival is all about movement and positioning vs the bugs, being able to apply a mass slow effect to bugs, at infinite range, with two of your 500+ bullets is just broken OP. IMO it would be broken even without the DoT, that’s just icing
dense shore
waxen surge
My game crashed mid stage 2 of the regular DD :|
copper cedar
Whats the DD and EDD like? They alright?
blazing current
EDD is alright until stage 3
severe tusk
DD is long because of two drilldozer escorts and a morkite refining mission.
copper cedar
Doesn't sound hard, but doesn't sound mightily enjoyable either
lofty parrot
lethal enemies sucked
fringe tinsel
haz 5.5 with lethal enemies is really unforgiving
like 2 swarmers just down you in the blink of an eye
hoary cove
Detonator isnt an issue with gunner... Large packs is tho
that entirely depends on ur build
gunner has great single target and swarm clear on both his secondaries and primaries
violet warren
Ended up bunkering the third stage of this EDD on the second attempt
Worked pretty well and a bulk didn't actually show up
If it did I had plenty of slowdown, a really large area for the bunker, and an emergency exit just in case
vernal kayak
i just had 4 bulks spawn in the last stage of my deep dive
strong cairn
Regular or edd?
vernal kayak
regular
runic bane
Just soloed edd with cyro driller. Man. That was brutal. Last stage, used all my revives and iron will before even starting the uplink. Thankfully there were less bugs during uplink and refuel. The egg and mini mule swarms were brutal.
Had a bulk spawn on stage 1 and used it to one shot hive guard. That felt good.
grave mantle
two drilldozers in the dd?!
at least there was so much nitra. we got to have fun in the last stage.
vale barn
grim hull
this EDD is manageable compared to last weeks, massive amounts of nitra in stage 3, but stage 1 and 2 are fairly scarce
the bet-c in stage 3 is a god-send
ivory skiff
yo i need 2 people for the regular deep dive hmu plesase if you wanna play
dawn zealot
"Calm ceiling" fans when theres 4 leeches in the egg room
marble veldt
Aight
Just duo Scout the EDD with @brittle hound
My build: Electrifying Reload GK2 with Trifork Boltshark and IFGs
brittle hound
My Build: SCC 13121, Boltshark Firebolts+Pheromones 13121 and Cryo Grenades
marble veldt
That was one of the best EDD I've ever done
brittle hound
379 Kills
marble veldt
Also HOT DAMN SCC rocks
strong cairn
Scc?
brittle hound
Had to abuse resupplies at the end to tank some of the damage, but the two Dreadnaughts were Cake.
brittle hound
Scc?
Super Cooling Chamber. M1k Overclock that many people consider to be quite bad.
strong cairn
Oooooooooooo
I have it but haven’t used. Higher haz it seems tough to take advantage of
echo storm
edd was pretty easy actually
there was a big time rush for the first 2 stages
at least when i did it
so it only took 34 minutes
scarlet pike
Anyone else have a unfortunate bulk spawn on stage 3 of edd?
hasty hamlet
my team had 3 bulk spawns in that stage
ebon roost
Is the frequency of lost connections higher recently for anyone else? It would previously be an occasional problem whereas it's creeped up to a multiple time a day thing now
potent vector
the bet-c in stage 3 is a god-send
wait what? I didn't see any betc in stage 3
nor hear one
grim hull
wait what? I didn't see any betc in stage 3
in the EDD? it was right next to the drop pod for me
grim hull
naw ps4
humble zinc
iirc BET-c and hoarders are random chance on DDs
potent vector
ah ok, different seeding
humble zinc
i remember redoing a DD where i got a hoarder and there wasnt any
unique ore
its either random, or based on the number of players, but I think its pure random. I seem to remember failing an edd with a team and then starting it again with same team, one run had betc, the other one didnt
jolly hazel
got lucky and bulk spawned before uplink
aoe is vital this week lol
cryo is also a good pick to keep shit away from you during uplink/fuel
thorn jewel
the elitism in public lobbies is real
because player level is so indicative of skill
severe tusk
I never really ran into that much. Then again, I played the hell out of DRG when I first got it and leveled quickly.
potent vector
because player level is so indicative of skill
there’s really no other quick way to gauge a level
if players can quickly see each other’s winrates and more stats, sure, but drg doesn’t have that yet
dim wigeon
gdi fear + ntp on gunner really carry me on 3rd stage EDD
thorn jewel
Should at least give it a shot
It'd be blatantly obvious on the first stage of any EDD if they've stepped foot in a haz4 mission
jolly hazel
yeah well unfortunately you are basically locked in a room with them for almost an hour if the host doesn't decide to restart
I think levels in the teens are low enough to where they probably haven't even done the haz 5 assignment yet
i brought a level 11 driller along 3 weeks ago and he pulled his own weight so im less leery about low levels
thorn jewel
I was mid 30s, and I did the one two weeks ago that was a nightmare at 14
and they're like "nah you dont know what ur doin"
jolly hazel
yeah those are usually the haz 4 shitters who aren't actually good enough at the game to carry so they demand players they can fall back on
thorn jewel
just doesn't feel very good
thorn jewel
I will next time
jolly hazel
your lobby your rules
thorn jewel
got a semi competent team so far
last one wiped because two didnt communicate anything
severe tusk
I usually don't join lobbies that sound tryhard or have level requirements, even though I always at least carry my own weight. I joined one a couple of EDDs ago because it was the only one going and I just wanted to get it done. It had players who were level 500, 600, and 200, and I kind of carried them as Driller, which is my worst class. I don't care if I am playing with 2 or 3 greenbeards. I can help them out, and I don't mind the extra challenge if they aren't very good yet. And sometimes low level players are quite good anyway.
polar ivy
they nmeed to add rolling
humble zinc
because player level is so indicative of skill
I'm level 112 and haven't finished a full EDD or Haz5 🙃
Imagine having skill
or +60 FPS when a wave spawns
blazing current
~~or +60 FPS when a wave spawns~~
You'll get there
I play with 20-30fps on medium low settings