deep-dive-discussion

[sacred rover]

i think someone said it happend on the console version

[flint orchid]

EDD anyone? Playstation, mics mandatory

[spring maple]

#lfg-playstation

[radiant fern]

I think I found the problem to the edd, ps5 hosts have the problem where the dreadnought egg gets hit by the refinery but PS4 hosts don't have that, my friend is on a ps5 and everytime he hosts it, the same thing happens, I can get video proof if someone needs

[hoary relic]

It happened for us on our first edd try this week on steam

drop pod in the center of the room, roughly, all the turrets in front of it, egg a little to the right

drill/refinery dropped directly on top of it

broke it and spawned twins

[radiant fern]

There's two different versions of deep rock apparently, ps5 and ps4 🤔

[hoary relic]

I'll ask something though, for the people that didn't see the refinery breaking the egg, where was your egg?

was it behind the pod on the wall?

[jade tusk]

So PS5 starts off with the fight off the bat and PS4/PC doesn't get the dread start. NOted

[hoary relic]

we got dreads on start on steam

[hoary relic]

^

[jade tusk]

I done the EDD a few times on Steam. Never got a off the bat Dread when the refinery dropped in

[radiant fern]

It was in the same spot, it was the drop pod that was in a different area, same with the refinery for ps4

The whole stage 2 is completely different on ps5

[hoary relic]

where was the egg?

next to the turrets?

[jade tusk]

Near one of the pump jacks

[hoary relic]

on the open part of the cave?

sticking out of the wall

[jade tusk]

Yes. Far away fromt he refinery and drop pod

[hoary relic]

so let me go with a theory right now

we did a first try on the edd early on the week, I'd say it was reset day even, and got the refinery breaking the egg, theegg was just sitting next to the turrets, like 10 meters away from them

we got our asses handed to us and didn't have a lot of time to retry so we didn't try again until next day

[radiant fern]

Are you on ps4 or ps5

[hoary relic]

next day though, the egg was where you just described

steam

[jade tusk]

Steam as well

[radiant fern]

Oh

[hoary relic]

so, is it possible they just modified the seed?

[jade tusk]

I doubt it

[radiant fern]

Maybe, there's two Versions of the seed

[jade tusk]

Could be

[hoary relic]

because without the refinery breaking th egg it was obviously much easier

[radiant fern]

I have a thing for you, there's a spot behind the droppod where no turrets are, you can focus the dreadnought there and then do the rest

[hoary relic]

yeah the thing is the egg is there now on steam

on the wall

but it definitely wasn't there on our first try, it was just next to the turrets

if you check the deep dive thread on reddit same thing happens, top comment explains the refinery spawning the boss thing, and it has answers stating it didn't happen to them

strange edd this week

[prime blade]

strange thing

[soft token]

i wonder if it’s edible

[wraith shard]

Did your teams have the same amount of players on all tries?

[lyric bridge]

On PS5 the egg is up on the wall closer to the roof

[wraith shard]

Because stuff like egg locations and cocoons and some other pre-spawns will change depending on player size of the team. With 4 people you might not have a cocoon where the refinery drops, but with less you will.
Console also has different cave layout

You will see the same discussion when there is Escort + eggs objective, some will have dotty drill through eggs and call spawns, others will have to pull them manually because they are not in the way

[jade tusk]

Usually in any Escort + Eggs. I often pre-drill the eggs out before even turning on Dotty

[waxen terrace]

i just get them while dotty is on oil break

most of the time the eggs are there en route to the omoran

[wraith shard]

Yeah that's fine and all, just saying people are always wondering why one team got eggs/ cocoon pulled and others not and it's because they were running different sized teams

[waxen terrace]

also imo predrilling is sometimes a waste of nitra due to how limited in nitra some escort biomes are

[jade tusk]

True, but at the same time. It helps to uncover surprise mechanics before they hit

[waxen terrace]

i do that by watching streamers before i do edds

[limpid torrent]

I just pre drill the room dotty passes without stopping

I don't like "spoiling" my deep dives

[jade tusk]

I don't watch the streams. I read the scouting reports of the missions and build a rough plan by them

[hoary relic]

yes, 3 players every time

[wraith shard]

And you started both with 3 or did someone leave on one? Because on 4 it should not break 100%

I don't think they would change seeds like that unless the dive would be unwinnable (like the one time with the mule legs)

[hoary relic]

we started with 3 every try, mind you, we only did 3 tries and on the third it was already different, which was the one we completed

[old marsh]

the edd this weak was kinda a pushover

[jade tusk]

The duality of EDD

• "This EDD is quite hard"
• "This EDD? feels like Haz 2 lol"

/s

[jagged vessel]

The EDD this week was my first ever

Took two attempts.

The first ended at level 2. Hoooooy shit. Lethal haz5 was so shit. Everything oneshotted

[grand path]

[EU] Looking for 2 more fellas for EDD, been trying all goddamn day due to DCs just before end of 3rd mish, people quitting and subsequent fails 🏳️

[sacred rover]

love how everyone is saying how difficult stage 2 is, yet i did it first try while doing solo, and lost on the first level. hate those god dam robots.

[pure berry]

Feels good when the drop pod lands right next to a turret control center and the driller just tunnels underneath to turn it off

"what rival presence"

[sacred rover]

yeah it wasent the turrets that were the proplem, it was the dam shreaders and flying robots

[ember otter]

Just burn em

[sacred rover]

not easy when they are flying arround and it takes close to a full tank to kill em whit heat since i didint take triple filterd fuel

[lyric bridge]

Shredders get the drills boi

Bots get the axes or crit subata if you don’t have a good way to light em up

[sacred rover]

yeah i only realised thet i could use drills for shreaders a few mission later the next day

and yeah i did use axes for the bots after a bit. the aiming is still difficult as you need to predict where the bot will be by the time the axe hits

[lyric bridge]

Activate driller sense, it slows down time x0.5 for about 8s, really helps for those fast moving targets

[waxen terrace]

shredders cannot get past your drill barrier

[sacred rover]

it was also during the dreadnough fight, so stopping for a sec is difficult

[brisk pagoda]

drills also block spitballer attack

[lyric bridge]

They do ok against the hearthstone boulders as well, but only the low ones

[crystal mirage]

Engineer smart rifle is really great and satisfying for killing the shredders!

[mortal river]

well, the last stage of the deep dive was horrible, first stop we got what felt like 4 swarms in a row, which including three bulks, before we even touched the eggs, resulting in lots of tears and 2 broken tires, then a bulk spawned literally on top of the drilldozer as we started the hearthstone

needless to say we didn't make it

[jade tusk]

Or just drill them with power drills

[sacred rover]

the main proplem about using the drills for fighting is that they overheat fast, wich in most cases makes them not very usefull. and blood cooled drills is realy usless in 90% of sitsuations.

[jade tusk]

All you need is a short tap and you have dead shredder drones

[sacred rover]

they take a second to activate

[jade tusk]

And cyro cannon makes any fodder bug quick drill fuel

[brisk pagoda]

drills dont have a windup unless you count like client latency that every gun is affected by

[sacred rover]

thats if your using the cryo canon

[jade tusk]

If you're drilling into unfrozen bugs. You either desperate as driller or shit went to hell fast

[sacred rover]

they might not have attack latency yeah, but the defenetly do take like half a second before they start breaking terrain

[jade tusk]

For drills I currently run 1-1-1-1 very rarely 3-1-1-1

[sacred rover]

i run something i dont remember

[brisk pagoda]

drills are one of those things where one build is just better than the others the large majority of the time, because the other upgrades either dont work as advertised or dont compare to what you can get instead. 1111 is the least situational option, and is still the better choice most of the time even if youre not using ice.

[jade tusk]

I run 3-1-1-1 if I know I'm gonna do a lot of drilling. Especially in Crystal caverns with all the Diagonal white crystals sometimes covering entire rooms. 50 fuel is a big boon

[brisk pagoda]

sure if you want it, but 6 units of fuel isnt going to matter except in rare cases such as that

[jade tusk]

But 98% of the time I run purely 1-1-1-1

[brisk pagoda]

yeah yall can run what you want, just saying 1111 is the best choice if you just want to pick something and not bother ever changing it for niche cases

[sacred rover]

what do you run on satchel?

[brisk pagoda]

max ammo + stun for combat or max ammo+rock carve for terraforming

[sacred rover]

i switch between ammo and damage randomly, since sometimes i use the charches and sometimes i dont.

[somber hatch]

max ammo + digging

im lazy so i use it to mind gold/nitra

[brisk pagoda]

max damage is usable in like haz 3, but 4+ it doesnt hit hard enough to be worth it

[jade tusk]

C4 I run 2-1-1-3. I use Carve so I dig out more ground and make panic bunkers. If I'm doing Sabotage missions I run 3-1-2-3

[soft token]

you only run damage on satchel charges if you’re trying to kill the scout

[jade tusk]

I mean. If a scout happens to grapple by when I blitz through the Caretaker's armor phase. I see that as a win

[flint orchid]

Is it easier to do a deep dive elite alone? Been really struggling with my buddies, only me and one other maximise efficiency while the other two are pretty casual

[jade tusk]

Depends on the EDD rotation

[flint orchid]

Current

[jade tusk]

Ehhh. Kinda iffy since Driller is the best choice overall and Driller has some issues against dreads

[flint orchid]

I agree, had a much easier time with driller making rooms inside walls and just bottlenecking swarms

[wraith shard]

Disagree heavily. Driller is one of the best classes for dreads if build right and right overclocks.

[lyric bridge]

Not really that fast tho lol, you have a solid gap of time for sure

[lyric bridge]

Also yes 100%

[flint orchid]

But it's really annoying because one of the guys plays scout and doesn't abuse his mobility, have to constantly tell him to keep his distance and keep moving

[lyric bridge]

Solo bug counts/scaling makes it ezpz

Plus bosco

[flint orchid]

I might just try it, I'm tired of losing Everytime

Then again, having a swarm with an oppressor and sandstorm right as we exit the pod also cucked us immediately

[magic tapir]

to be honest the EDD was a bit harder then the last few but its still easily done with a competent team

[lyric bridge]

Engineer may be your best bet for solo

[wraith shard]

I would say this weeks first stage edd because of the egg breaking is easier on group due to aggroed by the turrets and dreads both. But it depends. Solo escorts are also not easy, as bosco can’t help with fuel cannisters or carry them. Generally classes that are best for each edd vary also based on your preferences. I prefer driller for most edds.

[sacred rover]

the thing i dont like about other classes than driller is that i acxtualy have to aim

[lyric bridge]

I personally think driller best and most versatile for soloing but engineer will be easier and there isn’t anything in the dive that you really really need some drilling for off the top of my head

[magic tapir]

I think dotty was only in the DD this week

I could be wrong I was drunk both edd and dd 😂

[ember otter]

can bosco not mine the fuel out for you?

[lyric bridge]

He can but even with faster digging he kinda sucks at it

[wraith shard]

There has been many escorts, not this week tho. But last week there was I think second stage on edd was escort. But it’s not fresh on my memory

[somber hatch]

he can

it was

second part

[wraith shard]

Yeah but he can’t carry cannisters

[somber hatch]

the one with morkite issues

[wraith shard]

Funnily enough I had no morkite issues, I had extra 10 when I left that stage

[lyric bridge]

What platform?

[wraith shard]

Ps5

[lyric bridge]

Yea

The shortage was a PC thing

We have slightly different cave gen than them

[wraith shard]

But last weeks escort wasn’t as bad, but there has been some edds where the solo escorts are incredibly hard in the past. But I’ve noticed what everyone finds easy/ hard generally varies

[wraith shard]

Honestly the coccoon breaking by refinery shouldn’t be a thing

[brisk pagoda]

sludge blast + persistent plasma would probably be the play if you wanted to solo this edd as driller

[lyric bridge]

I used the refinery to insta kill the twins so it worked awesome for me

[wraith shard]

I ran it as cryo icestprm for the turrets you’d probably be better off with fire.

[lyric bridge]

Just very confused who kept popping the egg the first two times we wiped

[brisk pagoda]

sludge blast obliterates both dread and bot. fire cant handle dreads for shit

[wraith shard]

Nah best one is icestorm tho cause the dmg. Fire can work dreads fine too but prefer ice because the dreads take 2.5x more dmg

[lyric bridge]

Lucky I got C4 axes and teammates for dreads then

[magic tapir]

I run cryo personally that and hyper propellent with my squad its like melting butter

[wraith shard]

Also c4 and axes my best friends for dreads.

Dreads are infact my favorite with driller always.

[brisk pagoda]

yeah, but for specifically solo which somebody asked about, sludge is a bit safer since you have the extra range

especially against the arbalest

[wraith shard]

You can spec for range of flamethrower tho, depends on OCs a lot, but I have taken them also with flamethrower, c4/axe combo.

[echo storm]

sticky fuel gang

even after nerfing exothermic reaction it is still nice

[wraith shard]

Yeah sticky additive is good, but I’m genuinely surprised hpw accurate flamethrower is compared to cryocannon, and the range of it. Even with fuel stream diffuser which gives extra range its interesting. Now ofc ammo is a problem tho if you spec for dmg like i do. My first attempt on full dmg cryo was fucked cause I was out of ammo, so had to have at least 500 ammo, not 425 for the range perk.

[lyric bridge]

Yea I’ve never struggled with range of cryo and pyro

[wraith shard]

With cryo you have to be closer to enemy tho.

But I don’t mind it personally. There’s difference also even in the same range with cryo and flame.

[brisk pagoda]

its more specifically a downside to icestorm, since youre more reliant on cold radiance

[lyric bridge]

If you have to tailor your build for the 4 easiest enemies in the entire game dreadnoughts, especially in solo where you have infinite ammo then there’s not much advice I can offer really, shoot ‘em?

[wraith shard]

Lol I was talking about the edd. I don’t have to tailor my build but I do tailor my build. There’s other stuff that spawns during the dreads that also take ammo

But it depends , most people take ammo perks to edds and dds, I rarely do tho.

[brisk pagoda]

i was answering a question on what to use as a solo driller that can handle both dread and bot efficiently. take your condesending smarm and shove it weirdo.

[wraith shard]

Tbh I would say you can handle with icestrom too but 425 ammo is not enough cause you don’t have time to mine nitra. Personally second row range is what I would sacrifice. Lol. But still driller is my go to for dreads, sludge I am not a huge fan of as it can’t get rid of them solo fast

[brisk pagoda]

yeah both ice storm and sludge blast are really good for the job. i just consider blast to be the slightly safer choice

[wraith shard]

Well you can take dash so you have more ability to maneuver them

[lyric bridge]

That’s the thing though, the answer is ‘literally anything’, especially for driller

[waxen terrace]

just use scout

let bosco do the digging

[wraith shard]

Tbh I love all of the classes. Scout is so good too.

Engineer and shard diffractor… good for the range and turrets. gunner is the only one that is hindered a bit by it’s slow movement, but even then I can see some utility in him.

[lyric bridge]

Gunner is the ezmode class

When you only want to play 1/3rd of the game

[jade tusk]

I put Driller has the Ezmode class.

[obtuse pasture]

unless you solo EDD.. ugh... dreads... ughj

[sacred rover]

i did that

the dreads were the easy part realy

[obtuse pasture]

just feels like an enormous chore to kill dreads with driller

[magic tapir]

I don't think there is an "easy" class or one that requires lower effort then the rest. If people generally feel that's the case then they are doing something wrong or don't realise, forcing the other dwarves to work harder for there ignorance

[jolly hazel]

sludge blast

[sacred rover]

depends on what you use

[jolly hazel]

gunner "should" be easiest i think

[sacred rover]

i used sticky fuel and did most of the damage using it

[jolly hazel]

4 get out of jail free cards and easily applicable dps

[magic tapir]

I disagree I had a gunner that never used there shields on the EDD

[jolly hazel]

well then they are retarded

[magic tapir]

this is my point

all classes have a learning curb

[jolly hazel]

yeah but gunners is the bunny hill

[magic tapir]

and yet so many fail at it

[jolly hazel]

lots of low skill individuals

[sacred rover]

whit scout end engi prop having the largest. scout do to needing to avoid enemies at the start, and then later, after actualy being abel to fight, now learning to escape less, and engineer bc smart turret placement and remembering to place platforms on every mineral deposti for scout, wich aint hard tbh.

[magic tapir]

and calling sentry's after each room clear

[sacred rover]

thats easy

[jolly hazel]

I think engie has a high skill ceiling and a low skill floor

[magic tapir]

on a H5 if your sentry's is 3 rooms back its to late chance is gone

[sacred rover]

escpecialy compared to rememberign to place them in the first place

[magic tapir]

and running out of ammo

[jolly hazel]

as long as you aren't getting caught you are genociding bugs with his toolkit

[magic tapir]

so many sad turrets

[wraith shard]

I think driller is the best class for it. But it’s all preferential. Dreads are usually easy with driller but I don’t understand where that complaint comes from that driller can’t take dreads, probably people who are not used to close range combat which is what driller specializes for. Also sure if you don’t use c4 or right equipment but I feel like that goes for any class.

[brisk pagoda]

the main issue with driller vs dread is most of his builds for primary weapon need to sacrifice wave clear if you want good dps against dread. and wave clear is kinda his job.

[magic tapir]

I agree so many take AoE set ups to a dread fight and wonder why they sucked. its simple practice of know what you're fighting and communicate to your team to make it a successful mission its really that simple

[brisk pagoda]

another factor is how drastic of a difference there was pre and post update 33. back when there was only 1 type of dread, it didnt really matter what build you had, but when they added the other 2, they also made them significantly tankier and more dangerous

and also made fire basically worthless against them for some reason, even though ice storm was already slightly higher dps against the classic compared to facemelter

[magic tapir]

all dreads are the same in my eyes go strong single target damage and lots of stuns get you through them

[wraith shard]

How are you sacrificing it tho? I think it’s just that driller has diff range of engagement. Like gunner engi, and scout as example have more longer range weapons. Drillers secondary vawe cooker tho is long range, so fan of that because driller kinda lacked the range for far away cave leeches. But for dread You just need to predict where will the dread attack and how, and dodge projectiles, you can’t always judge but you can have guestimates of how much dmg you’re taking vs how much dmg you’re outputting. And if you use icestorm and can freeze dread that will already make it a bit easier. Sure gunner has better defensive options for shielding yourself from dmg, but it’s not a game of taking the least amount of dmg, but rather taking the dreads down as fast as you can.

[brisk pagoda]

yeah, thats my point. they made them like 3-4 times tankier depending on your build. so the build actually matters now, where it wasnt a big deal before. and thats why people started complaining

[wraith shard]

Yeah but builds should matter somewhat. Honestly this game is the most fun the more overclocks you acquire

[brisk pagoda]

like imagine fighting a haz 2 dread now. thats what it used to be like on haz 5

[wraith shard]

Hive guard is the one they buffed tho recently (like a month or so?) and that one you do have time limit as the sentinels can be annoying sometimes or not appear. But it’s about engagement range, predicting and largerly your perks matter too tho. Nitra is always good to have, so you can resupply fast and that way get health too. And yeah idk as the game didn’t exist on ps5 back then but I saw vid they used to be lower dmg

[brisk pagoda]

i think theres a misunderstanding, im not saying we need to go back to the dread being a complete joke like it used to be. just pointing out why people complain about it, and why it is often an issue with driller specifically since it affected him the most.

the only change i wqant to dreads is to revert their fire resistance so fire isnt so horrendously bad against them

[wraith shard]

But I don’t understand how is it affecting him most tho? Because he can’t keep his distance? Even with fire I have taken haz 5 dreads, edd dreads. It’s not as good as as ice because they’re not usually stunned (unless you take c4 stun) so requires bit more maneuvering but if you run dmg, and have enough nitra, you’re still basically able to take them as solo driller fairly easy, specially if you have overclocks. Sure gunner is easier if you just want to be shielded and not have to dodge so much or be so close to them and in terms of taking less dmg overall or easier resupply due to shield.

[brisk pagoda]

out of the 3 options, it has the worst damage and utility against dreads. they are completely immune to the slow from flamethrower, they are completely immune to being ignited, they take like 2 dps from the ground fire, and ontop of all of that flamethrower also needs to spend the most time reloading out of the 3.

the difference is too large

and even running an ice build with no damage upgrades and not even doing combos while its frozen will put out more dps than facemelter.

[hoary cove]

spamming goo with no ocs feels like better dps then most flamer builds

[wraith shard]

get close enough to dread to dmg it. If the range is the big problem, and you wanted 20 range on flamethrower take an oc called fuel stream diffuser. With face melter you already have the downside of less range

[hoary cove]

distance is not the problem, the abysmal dps is the problem

flamer is the worst primary for dreads by a mile

[brisk pagoda]

yes, it is, because goo is nuetral to dreads, and fire has like 80 or 90% resistance

[magic tapir]

cryo cannon is your friend for dreads you're not there for the dps but that flat out damage buff it gives is crazy

[hoary cove]

goo gun melts dreads

VIM and sludge blast are great dps and slow

[magic tapir]

cryo cannon and hyper propellent is the way forward

[wraith shard]

I haven’t tested goo one since they buffed it recently tho against dreads, but didn’t struggle taking them with flamethrower it just required a bit more effort

[hoary cove]

the reason it took more effort is because dreads heavily resist fire dmg and flamer inheritantly has lower dps then goo

on top the fact goo is one of the best slows in the game

Bringing flamer to elim is like bringing cryo to sabotage. Can it work? yes, but you are making the game alot harder for yourself

[magic tapir]

if you're taking the flamethrower out of the goo and cryo specifically for a dread fight and know its a dread fight that's just a skill issue and no understanding of basic game mechanics

[wraith shard]

I actually am inspired to test it lmao. Before buff I would still (if not taking cryo) definitely prefer flamethrower over the goo one. But I did play goo outside of dread mission once and it seems better, still not worth it tho.

[hoary cove]

pre buff goo still did way more dps and slow then flamer

now it completely outclasses flamer

there is 0 question

[wraith shard]

I think it’s preference tho. Overall it’s utility is to slow down not dps.Something about the firerate doesn’t feel as good

[hoary cove]

its not tho. If we are talking about elims, flamer is just the worst gun in the game

[wraith shard]

No I mean overall

[hoary cove]

In terms of general play, goo has no weaknesses, unlike flamer and cryo

[magic tapir]

if you want to slow dreads down use cryo it straight up freezes them

[wraith shard]

Goo gun for solo play is not as good tho.

[hoary cove]

goo is better utility and sustained dps

[hoary cove]

why not?

[magic tapir]

if you have a competent team take cryo as they can dish out the dps

[wraith shard]

Cryo is definitely better with icestorm, I would never take goo gun over icestorm

Not even for swarms..

[hoary cove]

i think they both work. If ur scout has ifgs, sludge blast can do the vast majority of damage with no aim required

[hoary cove]

wtf how

[wraith shard]

Because goo gun doesn’t down them fast

[hoary cove]

have you used it recently?

[magic tapir]

it did get a big buff tbh

[hoary cove]

goo is insane atm

[magic tapir]

it actually slaps

[brisk pagoda]

if you build for slow you can get like 90% slow.

[hoary cove]

it chunks swarms with every build besides sludge blast

[wraith shard]

Like it applies debuffs. It’s not for solo play imo.

[hoary cove]

????

[brisk pagoda]

you can for example make betc completely unable to move, and the classic dread to be as slow as a basic grunt

[hoary cove]

thats not the only thing it does tho

the slow is mainly useful for big targets, the gun in its current state obliterates grunts

[wraith shard]

Yeah but the dps is not fast, just compare the amount of time it takes you to down grunt using ice storm vs the goo gun. For big targets you have c4 already. Plus ice applies debuff of 3x more dmg from all sources, for dreads the dmg modifier is 2.5x

[hoary cove]

c4 for big targets? goo gun takes time to kill things? wtf lol

[wraith shard]

The corrosive is kinda like neurotoxin payload on gunner, where it will affect the enemy overall but in solo you want to kill things fast.

[hoary cove]

i never said cryo is bad for dreads

[wraith shard]

Yeah but I’m comparing the 2

[hoary cove]

goo is just as good, it largely depends on team comp

[wraith shard]

I never said goo is bad either, just preferences

[wraith shard]

That’s my point tho. Solo play I wouldn’t say goo is the best

[hoary cove]

why

[wraith shard]

It can work in a team tho.

[hoary cove]

but why

the ttk is barely any different

especially if ur using VIM

[wraith shard]

It’s definitely diff

You can feel the difference ingame, esp higher haz

[hoary cove]

are we talking puddle builds or VIM?

cus there is a difference

puddle builds wud have less ttk compared to sticky fuel, but VIM is pretty much the same as other options driller has

[wraith shard]

Oh builds yeah it depends too. Tbh I haven’t used a lot of overclocks for the goo gun, just the goo bomber special.

[hoary cove]

lol

what

[wraith shard]

??

[hoary cove]

i use every oc besides that one, cus the downsides are just awful

[brisk pagoda]

goo bomber is a meme

[hoary cove]

goo bomber isnt bad, but you are basiclly forced to use plasma burn epc with it

[brisk pagoda]

it would be good in a game where nothing could walk on walls, but they do in deep rock

[hoary cove]

otherwise the control over ur puddles isnt worth losing charge shots

anyways, if u have only ever used that oc, you sure as shit cant complain about ttk bro

[wraith shard]

It’s interesting but I’m still just generally fan of that gun. But it was prepatch last I played it, even without any overcloks. It’s kinda like neurotoxin payload on gunner, in team it has the most utility but the ttk is too slow solo

[hoary cove]

its not tho

where tf are u getting that from

[wraith shard]

Lmao I haven’t complained about anything, you were the ones with complaint of taking dreads down solo

[hoary cove]

not complaining, flamer is just outclassed by all other options

goo makes solo dreads pretty easy

slow + consistent dps with no aim required

or you take sludge blast if u wanna get the fight over ASAP without concern for ammo

[wraith shard]

I have no complaints, I’m happy with cryo and flamethrower tbh. Flamethrower works against overall targets esp swarms with sticky additive, facemelter is ok but not my favorite oc. But I don’t usually have concern of ammo as I get nitra a lot.

[hoary cove]

sludge blast is the only ammo hungry goo oc, but theres a good reason for that

cus it bullies dreads

[jade tusk]

I'm a fan of face melter. Nothing like well done buggers

[hoary cove]

all driller primaries work for swarms tbh

[wraith shard]

Yeah but sticky keeps them on fire tho for so long they.can’t even do anything. 😂

[jade tusk]

I have a sticky flame build I use for Salvage, but I like cooking my bugs until they're nice and ashy.

[hoary cove]

sludge blast is the only primary oc driller has that makes him noticeably worse at swarm clear

[wraith shard]

Yeah I hate the range and tank size take a lot of hit with face melter cause I like to mod for max dmg usually and no ammo. But tbh driller I would say is overall you can make work good with any weapons or overclocks.

Wish there was other gadget like c4 tho

[jade tusk]

Face melter is my generalist flamer build if I don't have a goal in mind

I currently run 2-2-3-3-2

[wraith shard]

There’s also sticky fuel which is similar to sticky additive

[jade tusk]

Was 2-1-3-3-2, but with robots becoming more common. The extra heat makes killing them with it less painful on the ammo budget

[wraith shard]

Do you remember top of your head your builds or you checked in game? I can’t definitely remember top of my head which choices I make, only when I’m inspecting lmao.

[jade tusk]

Some builds I know from the top of my head. Others I have to view in game or from Karl.gg

[wraith shard]

I have mine just ingame, can’t remember other than some stats. But karl gg if they had phone app I would def use.

Or even this game should have something like companion app like some games do.

[severe finch]

Hot damn there is a lot of nitra in the EDD

We're not being ammo efficient and still going into the 3rd stage with 400 nitra

[severe finch]

Oh nevermind. We died

[jade tusk]

No amount of Nitra can fuel the Dwarfs professionally trained by Storm troopers

[rocky cipher]

when is the new edd?

[digital chasm]

thursday

[vocal saddle]

nice

[vocal inlet]

How easy is this dd

[celest basalt]

just finished. pretty tame

on the third stage of escort you might bump into 2 bulk detonators as doretta moves

[unkempt lantern]

the second egg was a little hard to find in stage 3 though

[celest basalt]

tru, our driller got it from the fuel-up loc

i keep dying in stage 2 of edd

always when we set up the fuel uplink

[weary blaze]

woow, this edd was nice and easy, with only the first stage being slightly difficult with the spawn on the turrets, so much nitra, and two refinery missions to take off pressure, simply a blast

[celest basalt]

are you on pc?

edd on ps5 is a pain. refinery has the dreadnoughts spawn right after you land. it's doable if you maneuver but do you have any tips for stage 2 when there's just so many bugs swarming you when you set up the uplinks lmao

[weary blaze]

I can only say rip console players, I have little to no experience what it's like to use them. I use the breach cutter and prox mines as engineer, while a driller with cryo is clutch for bugs that get in the circle

the only overclock for shotgun I have and use is the super quick shooter, so whenever an oppressor got froze for 1 sec, I could dump the load on it

[severe finch]

Jeez, I've tried the EDD 3 times already and our team keeps getting rolled at the end of stage 2

[weary blaze]

feels good

Use more resupplies if you have more than 180 nitra

[celest basalt]

me with 4 times pain

[weary blaze]

this edd is real easy with a good scout, i did no platforming or mining and we had tons of nitra super fast all the time

[celest basalt]

thanks, i'll keep this in mind. i've been doing gunner for this EDD since i'm the main reviver. i was thinking i'd do scout or engi next

i've seen some drillers dig a hole under the uplinks and an engi would block the entrance and we'd camp, but more or less an oppressor would come up on us sometimes and it'd fall apart lmao

[weary blaze]

I hate bunkers, The area should be open enough for an engi to put an awning to stop bugs from crawling right on top of the uplink

[celest basalt]

makes sense. thanks for the tips!

[meager ginkgo]

such a painful EDD

double refine double elimination

and lethal inbetween

[turbid swift]

Cant get past the second because it ends with someone insisting “bunker”

Then bulk happens

Every single time

[raven grove]

Honestly GSG just needs to make praets dig too. That'll end the bunker nonsense.

[somber hatch]

bunker more like

[queen patrol]

“Don’t dig your own grave!”

[waxen terrace]

we bunkered but only after we killed the bulk

[undone prism]

Yesterday with a friend of mine we attempted the EDD for fun.

We're relatively new, and never played a hazard 5 mission before but can reliably clear haz4.

First attempt lasted 42 seconds 🙂
The drop pod was entirely surrounded by exploders, it was hilarious.

2nd try we got died in the second stage, and with third try we got to the last stage, but we just couldn't beat it.

All in all I'm pretty proud of it.

[thorn moss]

are the OSR's in the EDD easily doable enough with Engi plats?

or is it better off to take Driller to save the hassle of building?

[waxen terrace]

imo refinery is driller's mission

[unkempt saffron]

Dont really need a driller for the osr in edd

First stage osr is pretty direct, third stage some of the wells are a bit elevated but theyre not impossible to get to

[thorn moss]

ight

[calm jetty]

I fell asleep during the edd
🔥💀💯👌😹👌💯💀🔥

[lament musk]

that's crazy

[gloomy dome]

How2 beat elite salvage.. man its hard to hold the ground when defending against lethal enemies

We cant move around, we're just sitting ducks

[midnight citrus]

ntp gunner

[jolly hazel]

moving around is the only way to fight against lethal enemies

[gloomy dome]

Cant really move around inside a small dome with 4 players

[gloomy dome]

I just got this from mission 1 of edd.. i might try this one paired with fear

Slashers are a menace to my existence, would the slow resist perk be good enough to kinda counter them?

[midnight citrus]

you must never be slashed by lethal slashers

[flint orchid]

Anyone up for a deep dive? Driller preferred and mic mandatory. PS4

[random rampart]

#lfg-playstation

[flint orchid]

Ok thanks

[jade tusk]

Fear is crucial piece to NTP for the Auto cannon. Keeps Grunts off of you and even scares some of the bigger bugs as well

[midnight citrus]

fear is crucial because they spend time running away while being poisoned

not great if you have something for aoe tho

[jade tusk]

Any grunt poison by NTP is already dead no matter the haz level. Slashers barely survive the poison by the skin of their and guards are bulky little fucks anyways

10~ shots into a group of grunts is all you ever need and let the poison clean it up

[rose wedge]

JEEZ... This week's EDD is ridiculous

Rival Presence with spitballers and cave leechers

How dumb

[unkempt saffron]

spitballers? i barely even saw one

[jade tusk]

Don't recall any spitballers at all in the EDD. Cave leeches is a yes as there is a few cheeky ones

[neat charm]

i saw a spitballer near the starting location

[jade tusk]

Stage 1 you drop right by turret cluster with the controller being within drilling distance off the bat. Stage 2 drops you into a empty room with a Mini-Mule already there and waiting

[waxen terrace]

in stage 1 ask the driller to drill to the turret controller while you cover for him

in stage 2, just dont get hit 4head

stage 3? turn around every 5s

[limpid torrent]

Could be that he's on console

Different seed

[rose wedge]

I'm on console

[echo storm]

i like doing the edd first then dd

nothing like doing the dd to relax

and also clown around

[queen patrol]

had 2 bulks when helping my friend through the third stage of the normal dd

that was fun

[signal spear]

Man this weeks EDD was rough

I managed to parkour at the second stage after the droppod finished to clutch the stage

Platform engineer gaming

[inner rover]

all i wanna do is make it past stage 2 of EDD so i get my weapon oc

had like 10 attempts this week guess im still a green beard

[signal spear]

Nah, it’s just rough all around.
I lost one time because a bulk decided to show up right to the uplink

[tall meadow]

I would run another extra run of EDD if I was free and available this week

You can also normally catch more folks running the EDD the day they reset and the subsequent 1-2 days from reset

[queen patrol]

the greybeards get on for the cores when the deep dives reset and then go back to their slumber

[tall meadow]

I don’t do them for cores at this point but mainly for just something else to do

If you’re on around those few days, I’ll rerun the dives so hopefully you can catch time around then

[queen patrol]

I dream of the day I get rj

[supple remnant]

rj 🔥

[stone night]

fking elite deep dives

u open a lobby

and these cnts just leave randomly

[celest basalt]

lmao thats me rn

its rough on console

[lyric bridge]

There’s 3 or 4 on PS

[jade tusk]

Okay. PS as some spit ballers to snipe you

[inner rover]

wait youre telling me deep dives are different for console v pc ?

[queen patrol]

same missions and biome but diff seeds

[echo storm]

i find that if u do the deep dive at the beginning of the refresh cycle it is pretty good

[pseudo knoll]

STAGE 2 ON EDD IS ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE

FUCK MY LIFE

[midnight citrus]

scout moment

[pseudo knoll]

DUDE

edd stage 2 defense IS IMPOSSIBLE

IMPOSSIBLE

ON SOLO

IMPOSSIBLE

I get bulk detonator and 100000000 bugs

[rocky cipher]

Sounds like a skill issue

[pseudo knoll]

the moment the defense starts

skill issue deez nuts you leaf lover

I watch a video of the same edd stage 2 defense on uplink

guy gets like 10 bugs per 5 minutes

and I get the whole armada of serious sam brother

what is this

????

whoever designed instant bulk detonator spawn on uplink defense on edd2

I hope you get 0 nitra for your next 10 missions

[jade tusk]

If you watched a video of being done Solo. There's way less bugs solo over full squad

[lyric bridge]

We had 2 bulks on stage 2 but none on the defense bits, think we blew through all our difficulty on stage 1 and the rest was smooth sailing really

The defense in particular was remarkably tame

[rocky cipher]

I ran the edd with one group, they made a bunker 1/3 a way in to the scan and a bulk det peeks its head into the roof

we all died lol

[jade tusk]

Better hope they had a escape tunnel made

Rip. Bulk had dwarf tonight

[pseudo knoll]

I was also playing solo man, solo scout

is there certain spawn timing I am missing then, that would be the only explanation

[jade tusk]

Solo scout on Salvage isn't a fun combo. Probably the worst gamemode to Solo scout on

[pseudo knoll]

😄

I tried solo gunner first time, but again same thing, bulk spawned right on top of uplink

I had to tank 2 lives and kill it as fast as I can with volatile bullets

I survived first uplink, but then the fuel pod defense was unwinnable again

cuz detonator made weird dents around the fuel pod where it was

and the area was small to defend

[jade tusk]

Have you tried Driller yet

[pseudo knoll]

not yet

I wanted to avoid using driller

with driller yeah, you make bunker and pray to jesus christ, karl and god that detonator doesnt spawn at uplink defense

or wait a few minutes I guess? So I wait for its spawn

[jade tusk]

Rule 5 of bunker making from Grandpappy driller: Always have a escape tunnel

[pseudo knoll]

yeah

sludge pump buidl

?

[jade tusk]

Up to you

My choice would be Cyro driller

[lyric bridge]

Seconding this

It’s your best defense against the lethal enemies on defense

[jade tusk]

Make sure it's done right

It's easy to fuck up a bunker

[cosmic valley]

What do u do with cores?

[lyric bridge]

Do you know what machine events are?

[cosmic valley]

No

[lyric bridge]

After you promote you get a little key, in any regular cave there’s a chance you can find a little beige box looking thing with a hole in the top for the key

[cosmic valley]

I've found a couple

[lyric bridge]

Stick the key in there and then you’ll do a little mission

At the end of that mission you go back to the beige box

And trade in your blank cores for your choice of overclock there

[brisk basin]

chose the scout

[cosmic valley]

Ok thx

[brisk basin]

always

[cosmic valley]

That's my main

[brisk basin]

you want special powder

to blastjump with the boomstick

[cosmic valley]

Sounds kinda weird but ok

[cosmic valley]

[brisk basin]

you can fly away from anything

[cosmic valley]

you want special powder 😏

[brisk basin]

snort*

[lyric bridge]

Every class has something like 36 weapon overclocks so don’t get hung up on trying to get something specific

[brisk basin]

just dont choose the cosmetics

[cosmic valley]

[brisk basin]

[flint orchid]

Hey guys, we're at the last stage of the EDD. Don't wanna fail, any tips or heads up you can provide?

[waxen terrace]

look around you every 10s

and bring a cryo driller, he shuts down exploder suicide bombs

also dont ever fight on the refinery, use another open area to defend on

[wispy sparrow]

So Ive been trying to solo this weeks edd (my friends whimped out on me after one failed attempt) and I have been soft locked on the second stage. I have been getting a bulk detonator spawning right after activating the signal triangulation segment every time and get clapped. I tried running in and out of bounds (as driller) to try and kill it before it reached the triangulation zone, but that just got me killed by grunts/fail by lost signal. Any suggestions to combat this?

[cerulean lichen]

get new friends

[wispy sparrow]

i-

[plucky dune]

Any special problems with new EDD?

Or everything is ok?

[midnight citrus]

flame and wave cooker is very effective against bulks

sadly doesn't disintegrate them like normal exploders

[inner rover]

I found that out the hard way lol

[jade tusk]

Freezing the bulk also does wonders. If you kill it while frozen you don't get the big fucking hole it leaves behind

[inner rover]

Thats what thought would happen with the wave cooker too lol

Coz the tiny exploders dont explode

Just like killing them w/ frost

[echo storm]

i froze killed a crassus one time

lol

[jade tusk]

Though if someone is heating up a bulk like a Engie using the shard

Please tell them to stop by throwing C4 at them

[lyric bridge]

I recall that shitstorm on rebbit where some dude joined a game, got downed 40 times and begged for gold and the host dabbed on him by freezing the Crassus and then kicked him

[jade tusk]

KEKW

The shard has became my least favorite weapon to see when I run Cyro driller...And the number of friendly fire reports I have to lie about to management is on a massive up swing

[lyric bridge]

The age of cryo driller is past

Season 2 is now the time of pyro driller

[jade tusk]

The number of frustrations of trying to freeze an Op only for a Shard engie to "Let me undo that work for you"

And no Temp shock isn't a valid reason to covert a big juicy 3x damage modifier on a enemy to a measly 200 damage

[flint orchid]

Got DC'd on the elite deep dive, then stuck on the loading screen, game crashed, tried getting back in, friends completed the mission while I was stuck on the screen but got the rewards

Took. 2.5 hours

[rocky cipher]

I can finally say, yes the egg can be broken by the refinery

I ran a edd, egg was broken at the start and a nemesis spawned. my kind of party

[rocky cipher]

I got some great footage, it's like night and day when you look at the difficulty. I can see where that guy that said it was impossible is coming from

[analog thistle]

my group somehow managed to beat edd stage 1’s twins without them ever healsharing

is edd’s dread different from normal dreads? because i’m pretty sure the first one is forced

[jade tusk]

If you're able to spread the damage just before the force heal and able to burst one of them down before they could escape. You can skip the heal phase completely

[analog thistle]

thats the thing, we didnt burst them
i was on vim goo, gunner was on ntp, engi has shard but i dont think that should be enough

[jade tusk]

With freezing, a properly set up Mole Coilgun, and Hyper Prop PLG. I can see that being possible or everyone dog pile on the dread

My guess. You shoveled enough DPS into the dread to kill it before it could flee to heal

[jolly hazel]

I would like to see the mechanics of the anti-burst healing

what the differential has to be

and the time until they burrow and heal

[toxic snow]

they really gotta stop making stage 1 the hardest

[prime blade]

I'd rather fail on stage 1 than fail on stage 2 tbh

[queen patrol]

uhhh sorry but OVER 2 HOURS!?

[devout jetty]

Pyro babyyyyyyyy

[safe shale]

Thoughts on this week's EDD: Challenging, but not that hard, nor unfair.
Tough spawn on stage 1; and bad mini mules location on stage 2.
Stage 3 was the most difficult due to the map being kinda shit, and the ceiling being fucking high, causing the Arbalest to snipe me.

2 deaths, one for falling trying to kite mobs, other one by self blowing up.
Solo Driller, Ice Storm Cryo Canon + 200 mun Full Auto Subata. Nothing Fancy

[snow wraith]

Recommend loadout w/o ocs for driller attempting to solo edd this week?

Im sick to death of people pulling both eggs in the middle of a swarm or failing to let me terraform an arena for the uplink/fuel cells

[young harbor]

is it easier to solo edd than with teammates?

[unkempt saffron]

Depends if you primarily play solo then maybe, but if you tend to play coop id suggest playing with others, helps to have some experienced players

[brittle relic]

My game is a black screen

😐

Stuck on black screen

[next pebble]

#community-and-server-announcements

[safe shale]

Flamethrower: x233x (I advise Heat Radiance on T5 but not mandatory)
If you're confortable with: Colette: 21213 to maximize heat spread and temp shock.
If not: Subara: 2/3-1111

Axes and Stunning C4 for more crowd control

Unstoppable to lessen the sandstorms effects, Steeve to get some aggro off of you (suggest Guard)

Have Cryo Rockets on Bosco for temp shock, and don't be afraid to use C4, Axes and Melee attack for Dreads

[worldly sphinx]

Same here

[pine epoch]

Launch the game from your library and pick safe mode

[worldly sphinx]

Already got it fixed, with disablemodding. But thx anyway

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[queen patrol]

whats management cooking up now

[jade tusk]

Probably a EDD that consists of Hollow bough with really stupid cave generation with the following warnings in the stages. Low O2, Lethal enemies, with a side of haunted cave for good measure

With minimal amount of Nitra just as a added fuck you for all the barrels we kick into the launch bay

[full furnace]

For me worse will be: Hollow Bough, Low O2, Cave Leech Cluster, and a final fuck you of Exploder Infestation.

[jade tusk]

Cave leech cluster: Allow me to introduce to you Heighten senses or if you love Prequel memes: https://drg.mod.io/cave-leech-obi-wan-hello-there

[full furnace]

Oh and Corpse Feeders fucking everywhere.

[jade tusk]

Lots of hello theres until you get the GENERAL KENOBI

[jade tusk]

Missions with no particular order would be Refinery, Escort duty, know what another round of Escort duty just to be sure

[unkempt saffron]

2 escorts and a salvage in the middle

[jade tusk]

Even better

[full furnace]

Bulk on the salvage just as the cherry on top.

[jade tusk]

Along with a ghost bulk

[lusty fiber]

Any tips for edd stage 2*? Pretty brutal

[jade tusk]

Don't you mean Stage 2?

[lusty fiber]

Shit

Yes

Stage 2

[jade tusk]

Or did you piss off Management that badly that you have to do 4 stages of EDD

[lusty fiber]

Liquid morkite incident didn't go unnoticed

😔

[unkempt saffron]

1.dont bunker
2.dont bunker
3.move
4.dont bunker

[lusty fiber]

Bunkering is the only thing I haven't tried yey

t

[unkempt saffron]

Oh then youre not moving enough

[jade tusk]

Around the Drop pod. I would destroy all the stone pillars to open up line sight for both of the hold out segments and really prep the area around the uplink and fuel cell to give you the best chance of surviving

• Slow down from NTP gunner and Scout IFG for example are king as the bugs will take longer to get into lethal hug range

• Bunker is a last resort if all else fails. Remember to make it right and don't half ass a bunker

• Zipline cheese works wonder as melee bugs can't hit you from the zipline

Ready confirm before pulling any eggs. Unless you like surprise swarm with your pants down

[lusty fiber]

I should try zipline cheesing again

[jade tusk]

Be mindful of range bugs like acid spitters and Mactera

[lusty fiber]

I tried it before but places I wanted to hook too were too far

[unkempt saffron]

Also, dont be too conservative with resups, you got so much nitra you could arm a dozen more dwarves with all those supplies

[lusty fiber]

Oh yeah, and the ever haunting menaces

That constatnly spawn

[jade tusk]

Menaces usually don't hit you as long as you're moving on the zipline

They'll usually fuck off if poke them a few times

Don't be afraid to leave the holdout zone. As long as there's 1 body inside the zone. You're good

[lusty fiber]

Hopefully I will find a lobby in the evening, didn't have much time

[jade tusk]

You probably a have chance as some dwarfs are having the "Oh shit" panic right about now

If you can survive the filter that is stage 2. Stage 3 is same as Stage 1 except you replace annoying robots for exploders

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 3 is much more claustrophobic than stage 1, so those exploders are definitely gonna be a massive pain in the arse

[jade tusk]

I did spend a good chunk of stage 3 zipping around as Gunner when I did it. Exploders aren't the most dangerous as long as you keep your head on a swivel and being on a look out

[unkempt saffron]

Definitely, but those sneaky fuckers will find a way to explode right under

Also removing all those stone structures will help greatly for the dread fight too

[jade tusk]

True, but nice to keep some for cover from the Yellow twin's fire ball

[unkempt saffron]

I just run from those, as long as one is quick enough you can sorta dodge em

[jade tusk]

If not. A pancake pillar from the local engie will serve well

[unkempt saffron]

I just do the tri jaw strat and run towards the fireballs hoping that itll overshoot and miss

[jade tusk]

It's iffy doing the Tri-jaw method, but hey. If get a good set up for it. Go for it

[unkempt saffron]

Either way im gonna get close to that arbalest and fuck it up with my vim pooper

[jade tusk]

Why not do it DOOM style. Force the mouth open, cram a C4 charge Or 4 into the mouth, and press the button

[unkempt saffron]

They tend to burrow by the time i throw my c4 on them, doesnt help the arbalest likes to cosplay as spiderman and stay on the walls, i usually use the c4s for the lacerator if my team doesnt feel like sacrificing themselves to my c4

[jade tusk]

I do wish driller can actually throw his C4 instead of just dropping it on to the ground

[waxen terrace]

stage 3 is super easy

a lot of open space

dont camp on the refinery cause thats the worst spot to camp ever

[jolly hazel]

haha exploder wave

[waxen terrace]

unless you like assbiters under the floor

[full furnace]

Eugh, Solo Deep Dive was a hassle.

Probably not doing Solo Hollow Bough Deep Dives ever again, cause Hollow Bough creeps me out.

[jade tusk]

I hate Hollow bough. It's the only reason why I haven't done the DD yet.

[full furnace]

The only reason I did it is because it didn't have cave leech cluster.

[queen patrol]

do it please

[cerulean lichen]

i am totally in the mood to help out today, would be down for DD

[jovial forge]

hollow bough is cave generation hell

[echo storm]

edd with hollow bough is something else

[unkempt lantern]

how bad is the EDD this week?

[void vector]

It's about a 2/7

[lusty fiber]

I finally understood what's wrong with edd

Spawns for some reason are doubled

2 menaces

2 oppressors

4 prets

and double fucking detonators during fuel cells

🥲 Looks im not doing this one

Though i had fun time trying it

[lusty fiber]

If you manage to get past 2nd stage you're good

[limber wharf]

EDD stage 2 is super rough, my group couldn't get past it
Stage 1 is fine once you disable the turrets, which isn't tooo hard to do with a driller + gunner shield.

I found we had plenty of nitra (from stage 1 mostly) but it was hard to find time to resupply.

[jolly hazel]

its rng

[lusty fiber]

Yea, I know, but I've tried this edd several times already and it was mostly this way

[plucky dune]

2 stage of solo EDD is so bad

Game just throws dozens of bugs to you during defence

Without strong AOE builds it's totally unbearable

[old basin]

stage 2 sucks yea

stage 3 is also pretty nasty if you take too long to finish the pipelines, as the second swarm is a dread as well

[lime dirge]

Oh yeah DDs reset tommorow

nice

[sonic vector]

first solo scout EDD done 🙂

[manic pivot]

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Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
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[digital chasm]

cool

[fading ruin]

Epic

[stuck swan]

Just did the EDD and got it first attempt but mission control called a swarm as soon as the we opened the cacoon last phase.

Silly Mission Control. I have a feeling that he causes these swarms on purpose. 🤔

[lofty parrot]

double bulks then double swarms then a bulk during the defense phase on stage 2 edd.....

[little wadi]

same ^

every time we try to bunker a bulk spawns instantly

does it matter how long we tkae

[hollow citrus]

wonder what we'll get this week

maybe double escort if rng hates us

[celest basalt]

FINALLY! Holy SMOKES! After 175 hours in the game and countless number of attempts, I just completed my first EDD!!!

We got VERY lucky this time. Team was 2 Gunners, including me, an Engi, and a Driller. Our Driller coordinated and made underground bunkers for the swarms and for the second stage. We were so lucky. No automatic dreadnought spawned on first stage. No nemesis either. Then on the second stage I was dreading the two bulk detonators that always came during the uplinks, but none came at all. Was gonna pinch myself because I thought I was dreaming. Then third stage was just the same old rhythm as the first, only with more exploders

ngl coming up to the drop pod towards the end i coulda cried coz i was so happy

[smoky robin]

failed on stage 2 three times. I'm giving up on this weeks EDD. guess I don't have the right build or overclocks to do it.

[hollow citrus]

salvage with uplink on lethal enemies can be pretty brutal, but proper bunkering usually makes it much easier albeit more boring

[smoky robin]

yeah Lethal was wrecking my shit.

[chilly flare]

dont give up i just did it today and the second part isnt as difficult as it seems, you just need a solid team to complete it with

[smoky robin]

if it wasn't really late for me I'd try one more time.

[last lagoon]

Im doing my first deep dive right now

Name is DarkFang@12 if ya wanna join.

[severe tusk]

Does anyone else sometimes get recorded as having a down in an EDD when you never went down? I feel like this has happened to me 2-3 times now. Not a big deal, but it's just weird.

[last lagoon]

Ive never done an edd, but considering the amount of bugs in the new season i would say your not the only one

[solar galleon]

I finished an EDD with a few randos

https://i.gyazo.com/9171fdb17a71d762e70f7f28091ae1b1.jpg

at the end the gunner died but i FUCKIN BOOKED IT BACK FOR HIM ALONE

and we both made it

[last lagoon]

Hell yeah

U want me to buy u a round for that?

[random rampart]

Blackout stouts for all, on me instead

[manic pivot]

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New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
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[lusty fiber]

Just completed edd

With a handful of rng it was possible

Because no dets spawned during zone hold

And it was definitely easier once we started to not conserve nitra

Like using resups for health

That was tough, but it was a great challenge, I really liked it

The map was like a metro with a network of ziplines so you could get a lot of places without touching the ground

[manic pivot]

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ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
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[dire terrace]

First

[lusty fiber]

Pls no rivals

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[sacred rover]

gona try solo

[lusty fiber]

Gl

[north urchin]

Where's muffin cat?

[round mountain]

Going in BLIND

[north urchin]

Guess so.. feels so weird Muffin cat usually posts the stages

[burnt sandal]

For all I know, Muffin's doing fine but is probably busy ATM

[north urchin]

The likely outcome 🙂

[sly kettle]

You could always ping them. They're online in Discord.

[north urchin]

Yeah I know but I don't usually do that.

[dire terrace]

detonator spawn at first stage EDD

great start :)

[north urchin]

Classic DRG

[dire terrace]

we got double at spawn

:)

[echo zenith]

Neato.

[round mountain]

Same thing happened to me

[sly kettle]

@quiet mortar Wanted to know if you're gonna do your weekly Deep Dive thing here or if you're unavailable.

[sick lake]

Whats the standard DD lookin like?

[quiet mortar]

Bugger forget again

Gimme 2 minutes

[sly kettle]

Starts off with Mactera Plague mining mission with a black box.

[brazen musk]

With 250 morkite

[sick lake]

Not too hateful. Biome?

[sly kettle]

Crystalline Caverns

[brazen musk]

Also the EDD has 3 mules 2 eggs swarmageddon in the biozone

[sick lake]

Just gotta worry bout shock crystals then. Cool

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Devil's Shock
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + Dreadnought Classic | No Mutators
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Parasites

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Fractured Sleep
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Swarmageddon
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + ** Dreadnought Twins** | Haunted Cave
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

[junior fossil]

one of the minimule spawned so high up oo;;

[hollow citrus]

Sandblasted again?

[sacred rover]

no

[waxen terrace]

that seems wrong

[sacred rover]

you gota restar

all that work to get the mule at the top and then i die to feking faal damage

[waxen terrace]

i mean the biome

isn't it dense biozone for edd?

[sacred rover]

yes

that top mule is basicly unreacheable by anyone but scout and driller

[sly kettle]

Your Elite Deep Dive info seems to be wrong.

[waxen terrace]

@quiet mortar EDD is dense biozone

[valid ginkgo]

Dense Biozone, yeah.

[sly kettle]

Its Dense Biozone, Fractured Sleep is the name.

[hollow citrus]

Another week of spiky plants it seems

[lusty fiber]

Haunted cave 😔

[quiet mortar]

Thanks

[brazen musk]

I don't like fighting dreads on haunted cave

tbh

[broken shore]

EDD 3rd = 200 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s / shield disruption

[ebon anchor]

We really do be going from months without haunted cave to just few weeks in between

Becoming more common now

[sick lake]

Dd has 2 different 250 morkites--dark morkite needed?

[cosmic valley]

What does scanner out of range mean?

Im trying to go to places but the scanner is out of range

Can i change that

[sacred rover]

finaly got edd stage 1 done

[burnt sandal]

just wait for the missions to rotate

[cosmic valley]

Ok

[open cypress]

I think this is the first dive we've had without rival presence since season 2 came out, yeah?

[lusty fiber]

Previous deep dive didn't have rivals

Regular deep dive that is

[queen patrol]

mornin’ dwarves

hows the dive lookin?

oh yikes

that doesnt look good

[lusty fiber]

Shield disruption, looks like I'm playing driller this time around

[unkempt saffron]

Oh yeah, haunted eggs

[random oyster]

Thank god there's no Rival Presence on the EDD this week

[junior fossil]

my main problem with the edd this week is more fall damage than anything

[round mountain]

Hah yeah, tunnel rats would have been nice in hindsight.

(Or playing as scout/engineer)

[junior fossil]

well, I went as gunner and mectra proved that it can aim at me

[cosmic valley]

Is drak primary

Drak 25

[jovial turret]

Hrmm, EDD with Stage 3 being Shield Distrupt. Sounds dicey,

[unkempt saffron]

stage 2 edd was quite the affair

small cave and a murderous ghost bulk

[waxen terrace]

embrace ~monke scout

[void vector]

Wasn't bad actually, EDD stage 2 was worse

[azure quail]

this weeks EDD is

HELL

[void vector]

Nah, was like a 3/7

And DD was super easy, breezed through it in 33 minutes.

[unkempt saffron]

all DDs are objectively easy

[vital sluice]

Shield disruption reduces the damage you take, so as long as you have surplus nitra, it's not too bad on the third mission (I have not done the deep dives yet)

[unkempt saffron]

theres plenty of red sugar in stage 3 to stay alive

plus youre never gonna run out of nitra

[lime dirge]

Thoughts on this week's EDD?

[unkempt saffron]

stage 2 is gonna be a challenge if you dont clear out the cave to maneuver around the unknown horror

other than that the rest are very straightforward

[void vector]

Shield disruption on stage 3 isn't as bad as you'd think, stage 2 has quite a lot of 'vegetation' to block movement and LoS, it's somewhat cramped.

[unkempt saffron]

also dense biozone is annoying

[supple remnant]

Yeah stage 3 was the easiest for me personally

Stage 2 sucked because of the horror and the layout of the caves weren’t great/cramped

Stage 1 wasn’t bad either

This week’s edd looks intimidating at first but in reality is pretty easy

Should the edd info be updated to make it clear that the last stage is only repairing mules, not salvaging them?

[old basin]

it's already clear, it always goes Primary - Secondary

[supple remnant]

Ohh yea

[hollow citrus]

edd stage 2 is def the most challenging due to the cramped/vertical map. not much space to avoid the ghost and twins, so be prepared to terraform quite a lot to make ur life easier

[pseudo jacinth]

anything wrong in this week's deep dove or are the dives straight forward?

[pseudo jacinth]

ah yeah that level is built like a jungle gym

better have some access tunnels and fight the dread at spawn

[supple remnant]

Straightforward

We got 1 bulk at the beginning of the edd but it was an open area so nothing to worry about

[pseudo jacinth]

good, no need to drill the entire cave for a hidden vein of morkite

[supple remnant]

And got another one later on

Yeah there’s a lot of extra morkite in stage 1

[pseudo jacinth]

we actually got 3 in our run, bulks a plenty :v

[supple remnant]

Stage 3 was easy

Dang

[pseudo jacinth]

got to watch green beard host try to dash past them

yall know how that goes

[supple remnant]

Yeah lol

What class were they using

[pseudo jacinth]

scoot

[supple remnant]

Why are they that close to a bulk

They have a grappling gun lmao just zip away

[pseudo jacinth]

honestly they tries grappling away but grappled to a near by rock instead od something farther

[supple remnant]

Oh was it stage 2 edd

[pseudo jacinth]

think they were panicking

ohno the stage one

[supple remnant]

Oh stage 2 is really cramped

So I wouldn’t be surprised

[pseudo jacinth]

stage 3 was honestly a place to breathes freely

[supple remnant]

Yeah shield disruption looked intimidating but I was a lot easier than expected

[pseudo jacinth]

stage one was when moat of hall have to defend on a cliff

shield disruption+floor cactus = turning vegam out of spite

[supple remnant]

I took so much more damage from the cacti than actual bugs

But yeah edd this week fairly easy

[pseudo jacinth]

i think your definition of fairly is a bit warped

[pseudo knoll]

atleast no lethal enemies on EDD, that would be TrollDespair

[pseudo knoll]

where is the nitra?

on EDD

I think this game hates me

it spawned detonator and nemesis on 1st cave

[potent vector]

nope, just did DD. all morkite veins are not hiding behind some pillar, scout with some flares will find them easily.

so it seems edd stage 2 is most annoying

is the cave layout like stack of pancakesplatforms?

[pseudo knoll]

2 detonators

[ebon anchor]

Lots of twins lately on edd and no hiveguards lol

Where my hiveguards gone to

[echo sluice]

Prob chilling with Satan

[pseudo knoll]

these EDDs have been absolute shit

for solo

I couldnt even beat the first stage as solo scout

I think I will only play driller from now on

did they touch EDD enemy spawn rate or what

past EDD and this EDD each 3 detonators

ive not seen that many detonators

ever

[wraith shard]

Wooo wee, that second stage was so spicy

EDD was no joke this week

[sacred rover]

yeah, wasent last weeks suppost to be difficult

[random oyster]

last week's was just unfun more than anything

[sacred rover]

it was nice, and at least i could do it solo

this one i had no chanche

[random oyster]

this one has nothing but negative mutators on every stage of the EDD

and 2/3 of them are not good

[wraith shard]

The terrain was the worst enemy in 2nd stage

it was rough maneuvering around the twins and the ghost

[random oyster]

Dense Biozone moment

that and Glacial Strata usually have immensely bad map gen

[reef bison]

-laughs in hollow bough-

[wraith shard]

indeed

[random oyster]

that too

[reef bison]

Last weeks DD was surprisingly more challenging than usual especially that 2nd stage
EDD was easy af with the two morkite refinery missions

Still took 1hour 20 mins with 3 people but still

[random oyster]

I kinda stopped soloing DDs, I really can't enjoy soloing anything in this game now, feels too slow. I now just go with friends into DDs

[reef bison]

Nah

I've only got 14 solo missions

And like 2k missions with co op

[random oyster]

I am one of those people with the "Bosco you're the best" achievements

[reef bison]

I need to get that 100 missions solo achievement

Already got all dwarves to gold

Or trophy not achievement

[random oyster]

that is the achievement I just mentioned

[reef bison]

Damn lucky

[random oyster]

not so much lucky as sad

[reef bison]

Hard cap

[random oyster]

that I had done that many solo missions

[reef bison]

Nothing about this game is sad

Solo or online

You do you

[junior fossil]

dono I play on odd hours so I tend to play solo...

[reef bison]

Theres always people online

On ps anyway

Just sad theres only ever like 2 lobbies for haz 5 :/

[pseudo knoll]

I am already having a headache

I just cant

I guess am burnt out at this point

[junior fossil]

sometimes we all need a break, I think I took a 6 month long break from DRG

[vapid zephyr]

What do you run as scout solo?

O your color isn't scout I assumed

[supple remnant]

I mean last week it felt a lot more difficult. This week, barely anyone on our team went down and no one used iron will at all. Felt underwhelming

Stage 2 is pretty difficult but if you just have a scout that kites at the right moments then it’s not that bad

Shield disruption for stage 3 wasn’t bad at all. More than enough red sugar and nitra is once again loaded in the previous stages

Not as much as last week but we had several hundred left and called a bunch of resups in stage 2 alone

And yeah stage 1 was simple enough

It’s only haz 4.5 after all

[junior fossil]

Just make sure you watch your step for the silly falls

[edgy yew]

I was doing a deep dive with my friend the other day (private lobby) and for some reason I kept going invincible for about 20 seconds, I had infinite ammo on my satchel charge and I could one shot literally everything. Does anyone know why this happens and how I can stop it? It takes away the challenge when you cant die and can one shot everything

[supple remnant]

If it doesn’t do it unless you are in the lobby with them then it’s something they have installed

[edgy yew]

Alright thank you, I'll ask if they have anything installed

[jolly hazel]

haunted egg cave and twins

fun

at least shield disruption is on the easy looking stage

[supple remnant]

Imagine shield disruption and haunted cave on stage 2

That’s where the real fun would be had

[sacred rover]

i like how its this again, just like last week. i didint have any more trouble whit last weeks EDDs second stage wich everyone said was very difficult, while this weeks EDD i couldunt even do solo. granted i only tried it twice, just like last weeks but still.

[supple remnant]

Last week’s edd was pretty difficult for all the stages, especially 2

This week’s I feel like it’s just stage 2 that’s difficult

[sacred rover]

i did get 12 death in it in total so

[supple remnant]

Driller?

[sacred rover]

yeah, whit crisper

sticky flames

[supple remnant]

Yeah makes sense

This edd i went shard diff and the driller went cryo

[sacred rover]

it did take 2 attempts to do, but i died in the first stage and not second on my first attempt so

that top mule in this weeks edd is realy annoying tho

[junior fossil]

I done this EDD as gunner, it was a lets see if I can kill the mectera before I fall

[supple remnant]

Without a scout definitely yea

[junior fossil]

Also when I got to the top mule... Bulk det

[sacred rover]

oof

[supple remnant]

Bulks spawned in convenient spots for me this edd

And last week

Didn’t get one during any uplinks

[sacred rover]

im prop gona try to solo the edd again during the weeknd, and if i cant do it ill just get a team

rather get less kills than scout again than to break another chair

[supple remnant]

You broke a chair?

[sacred rover]

yeah i got kinda angry at that top mule

combine whit 2 little brothers having a small fight in the living room and yeah

[supple remnant]

Dang

[sacred rover]

it did get fixed tho

[supple remnant]

Ok good

[sacred rover]

it was prop only like 20-30 bucks but i belive they arent sold anymore so

[supple remnant]

How did that attempt turn out

Of the edd

[sacred rover]

i got to the second stage on my seccond attempt, then i died

[supple remnant]

Rip

[sacred rover]

i was expecting this weeks to be easier since people said the last week was realy hard, but i think the open area helped a bunch

[junior fossil]

One of my tricks to solo the 2nd stage was the side tunnel to lure the ghost up and down

It gives a nice amout of breathing room of done right

[sacred rover]

yeah its not the ghost thats difficult, its the bugs and fall damage

[junior fossil]

Yeah also the tunnel doesnt get me to fall everywhere...

[jolly hazel]

the chair tax edd holy shit

[sacred rover]

you still gota move to get the objectives tho

chair tax?

[jolly hazel]

it taxed you a chair

[supple remnant]

I went engi and just used platforms everytime I jumped down/fell so fall damage thankfully wasn’t a problem for me

[junior fossil]

Bosco can fetch

[sacred rover]

thats what i do for basicly all of em

[supple remnant]

You break chairs?

[sacred rover]

no

[supple remnant]

Good

[glossy walrus]

yeah the cave layout in edd stage2 this week is horrible

everything else pretty fine

[rocky cipher]

horrible how?

[supple remnant]

Vertical af

[sacred rover]

dense biozone is annoying. still not as annoying is the one whit the red weed things

[supple remnant]

Stuff everywhere

Cramped

[rocky cipher]

ah

[supple remnant]

And a haunted terror doesn’t help

[glossy walrus]

I think the biggest open space in whole map is where the drop pod spawns in

that should say a lot

at least, space where you can walk and deal with the horror

[supple remnant]

Don’t be like me and end up at the bottom

With a terror

During a swarm

Trapped in a corner

[glossy walrus]

I ended up making a triple zigzag zipline network so I could finally get some free space away from a wall

[sacred rover]

tbh that prop didint help me

[supple remnant]

Yeah our gunner made some nice ziplines

Ziplined cheese the twins with ease

[sacred rover]

tbh the dreads in solo are quite easy

[supple remnant]

Dreads in solo are a cakewalk

[sacred rover]

yeah i almost did them nohit in last weeks edd

[supple remnant]

Last weeks edd had good cave layout

The first stage was awesome

It just felt good

[sacred rover]

if it wasent for the robots i would propably have done it on my first try

[supple remnant]

They are intimidating at first but the controller is right by the pod

[junior fossil]

The 3rd stage was odd though, the egg location

[sacred rover]

nonono not the guns

the flying pices of metal

[junior fossil]

I liked last weeks edd better than this weeks

[sacred rover]

same

[supple remnant]

I had more fun with last weeks

This one was just

Kinda boring

[sacred rover]

i think someone said the fliped of that earlier

[supple remnant]

Oh really

[sacred rover]

but replace boring whit annoying

[supple remnant]

I feel like cave gen is a huge factor in deciding if an edd is fun or not

Being cramped with a haunted terror is not fun

[sacred rover]

it absolutely is

being cramped in any sitsuation is not fun

[supple remnant]

Being in a huge one cave area with one hit walls (sandblast biome) is fun which was stage 1 of last weeks

Agreed

[sacred rover]

bc being cramped arteficaly increases difficulty, a cramped enough map could make haz 3 prove a challenche

[supple remnant]

Exactly. Stage 2 was so much more difficult than stage 3 and that was because of the layout

Vertical is annoying

Vertical and cramped is really annoying

Vertical and cramped with a haunted terror is even more annoying

[junior fossil]

cheesing with a tunnel makes it feel silly

[sacred rover]

had a similar experience, expect didint eaven get to dread

[supple remnant]

L

[native bridge]

EDD easy on solo scout first layout is terrible for gunner

[severe patrol]

any cave leeches on EDD?

[violet warren]

Stage 1 has some of the most hellist mini-mule spawns I've ever seen

The legs are at the bottom of the pit and the mules are like 50 meters up

So obviously we lost because the minimule stage is the hardest part of salvage with how many bugs spawn

[pine epoch]

Can't you just take it slow on salvage?

Waves only spawn when you go up to a mini M.U.L.E. for the first time and with some random legs

[random rampart]

never go slow on salvage, be a masochist™️

[glossy walrus]

mostly you just need people with good ways to deal with swarmageddon, I was using ntp so it was pretty free, driller most anything works great too