#deep-dive-discussion
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must be
spawns can be rng sometime, I had a nemsis on my first try of the EDD but not on the 2nd one
bruh. there was no bet-c for me ๐ข and you can hear that thing a mile away
damn. rng doesn't like me
only got one oppressor the whole deep dive tho ๐ค
Bet-C location is still random, but if one spawns. it'll spawn in the EDD/DD
I'm sure a dwarf that drinks smart stout more often can give the exact science of the spawning of Bet-C
aw naur not two dreadnaut twin fights om the edd AND lethal enemies AND rival pres
that looks tough
looks tedious also with the same objectives AND dreadnaught spawns on 2 stages
this week doesn't look so fun
Yeah, it looks like a rough roll
stage 2 EDD is total overspawn
it felt uhhh a lot but that might be because 2 of the people were perma downed essentially
lethal is nasty on hazard 5
stage 2 on edd was really tough yeah
I kept getting bulks once I started uplink, kinda just have to accept your fate when you see them
especially since I was doing it solo
Had 3 only one was during fuel cells and at the last few seconds of it
was pretty close
What the hell, am I looking at this correct
Refine morkite and twins on both stage 1 and 3 of EDD?
im thinking vim driller might be a good option for solo
Yeah, if you want to go driller that would be my pick
Fuck...edd stage 2 is salvage...
Man I take on Mr. Orangebutt anyday
Oh man...
Gunner is also a good option solo
But not frigging Tweedle Dee and Dum
Yeah I'm going to pray to Karl that my teammates are better than me because there's no way I can carry on this EDD
I hate the twins so much
Plus, robots and exploders? Man, this is just asking for a bad time
I will just do this in duo with my friend
EDD I mean
I don't think I can carry my weaker friends for this one
probably too hard
It's going to be tough but yknow what
Im lopking forward to taking a swing at it
Decided to try EDD solo, first cave seems quite lovely ๐
Sandblasted? Again?
I think sandblasted is my favorite biome, so fine by me ๐
Sandblasted tends to have the more challenging edds from my memory
Yeah me too, i love being yeeted by the sand winds around the map ahahah
Thats like the least of your concerns, the sandstorms are quite fucked and trawlers just amplifies that by a hundred
dont forget lethal trawlers
Lethal, not lethal, trawlers are still annoying bastards
well on lethal its like they do damage now
I'm running it on haz 5, and so far my biggest threat has been myself. I slipped out of combat when climbing around and broke my ankle. Needed Bosco to kiss it better. ๐ฆ
Thats the sandblasted special, if you aint getting blinded by a sandstorm or manhandled by a trawler, then youre most definitely falling off the edge of a sand pillar
I always run with elephant rounds, so the trawlers are usually a satisfying crack-shot. When they sneak up on a fella though, jeeze what a friggin mess
Now those look like some fun deep dives
EDD was nice enough
kind of a bug question but if your computer is lagging the fuck out can it throw more than one grenade even though you only pressed it once
was on edd, game was being super slow for some reason and i pressed q once and it chucked 3 nades, froze the whole team, killed on fuel cell, and even when i was alive and clearly in the circle it would keep playing the "you're jeopardizing the mission" text
when i say super slow i mean like <10 fps
I think I'll take scout this week 
i guess i shouldn't say lag, i was host but legit game was running slideshow levels
are energy cell drop locations fixed?
every week, some random host gotta dc at the 3rd stage ๐ฟ
A oof
I think I was there.. the dude crashed
oh the new dives are up
WOW
2 refineries and a salvage
ughhh
atleast theres no morkite
man who the heck doesn't bring iron will to an edd
lot of people don't, because it's not necessary
idk people keep bringing see you in hell which I think is garbage
"See you in Hell" is really only useful if the person reviving you doesn't have the upgraded Medic perk (When you revive a teammate all nearby enemies flee)
be me, waiting for people to join deep dive
10 minutes pass
"what's taking so long"
set it to private instead of public
Man EDD was TOUGH
Had two bulks on stage 2 and we had to have scout grapple into the pod to clutch the mission from failure as we all downed
Lads stage 2 isn't a joke
Stage 2 is looking to be the filter
Stage 1 is either living hell or easy depending on if you don't get fucked by Nemy spawns from the Rivals. You drop almost right next to the turret controller so you can shut down the turret network before it becomes a problem. The twins isn't the worst dreadnaught to fight
Map is overall very nice. Don't even need to drill paths to the pumpjacks
Stage 2 starts off in a decent size room with a Mini Mule off the bat. Which is both a blessing or a curse depending on how you left Stage 1. I could see squads possibly wiping at the start of Stage 2 if they don't respect the mini swarm that comes out
Drop pod has lots of stone pillars around it that you need to remove so you can have plenty of movement space and line of sight. Holdout is stressful due to Lethal enemies.
ready checks is recommended. I can see that being another wiper with a bad egg pull by a eager scout or driller and trigger a swarm or stack another mini-swarm on top of the Mini mule swarms
Stage 3 is a repeat of Stage 1 except for the fact the robots are now replace with exploders...Lots and lots of exploders. As long as you remain active and keeping an eye. Exploders aren't much of a overall threat. Driller tunnels will help, but the pumpjacks aren't in real shit places that you're doing stupid weird pipelines to get at them
And the twins are back for round 2, but the exploders make this round a bit harder as you're more likely to focus on the twins than the 10+ exploders rushing at you like Russians rushing B in CS:GO
Overall. I rate this EDD in terms of difficulty a 3.5/5. Also there is a SHIT TON of Nitra this EDD
Oof
well i somehow managed to get half the kills of scout, while playing driller on the regular dd
and only 4 more than scout on edd
4 man squad for me. I ran NTP gunner
I usually pick the randoms but im not up to waste my patience over the host crashing
Both of my EDD runs. The failure and success. I hosted both
Maybe i should start hosting
Need to get around to doing the DD this week. Anyone has a nice Summery of it?
Det decided to drop in and say hi during EDD Stage 2 signal holdout
Like, holy crap, as if three nemesis in stage 1 isn't already a sign of bad luck
I just mention Nemy spawning in Stage 1 of this EDD during my summery of it >.<
I got only 1 with the drop pod on there still, i guess our quad was lucky
I hope I didn't jinx you 0.o
I got really lucky with no Nemy spawns at all
Either it's smooth sailing, or RNG will be aiming for your balls
That and it could have been my imagination, but swarms have a really good sense of timing to attack during sandstorms all the time
One piece of advise when hosting. Make sure you're hosting a public lobby by checking the pip underneath the Deep dives. It defaults you on Private
Yeah
But oh well
Deep Dive is fine and dandy
Just a brief moment of Nitra shortage throughout stage 1 and 2
Oh yeah This EDD you're swimming in Nitra
^ this, at least
I mean, you'll probably need it
That and red rock blasters if you can order it
lost stage 2 of the EDD to a trawler
this week's EDD is like a joke compared to last one wtf
welcome to RNG system
rng of seed, swarm rolls, and what teammates you get lol
Stage 2 of the last EDD was a nightmare lol
i usually find an edd to be cheese if it's sub 45
on par is about an hour
then fucked is 1hr 15
flashbacks to the edd with haunted cave
This deep dive is pretty easy so far
New deep dives
was a ton of nitra yeah, we had 400 nitra coming out of stage 1 (1 resupply used)
I waited for the turrets to activate and them just threw all my incendiary nades out
which was great because the other 2 players on the team got the bug where you couldn't mine anything on stage2, red sugar included, so good thing we had lots of resupplies available
I didn't realize that bug also removes the 6s invin on res, but apparently it does, so stage2 was quite rough for us (bulk during uplink was just the cherry on top)
otherwise it's just a relatively long edd due to 2 refinery machines (and exploders making things feel even slower on stage3)
Normal Deep Dive was ok, only bad thing was that it was treeland
@jade tusk Did you get double dets on stage 2 of EDD? or was that just my luck?
1 resup on refinery+twins? impressive
did u do it for a particular reason?
Only got a single det during the refueling segment
Are the dd rewards seeded or?
Well, is the weapon/cosmetic the same each week for everybody or random?
Does it give a blank then or just another random oc?
Assuming you own all weapon cores. The weapon core will be another blank core
^
the weapon and cosmetic are random for each person
unlike cargo crates being seeded
So it's randomized but won't give you a dupe
but it still rerolls
mostly that we were close enough after 1 that it wasn't really worth calling a 2nd, and we were able to hold off fine until the next level
think we ended at around 50% on everyone
you cannot get a duplicate oc core
ever
damn nice
I usually call one so we are full for the next stage
if we are performing ahead of schedule
when we saw we could probably do it, we wanted to try to see if we could say we left stage1 with 400, which we barely did (was exactly 400)
our driller was sticky flames and I was ntp, so we had a good amount of efficiency to go around
most of the ammo was unsurprisingly used on the twins
I assume only one hp share too lol
ntp ammo efficiency is nuts
gotta tell engie to not kill everything that's going to die already
turrets don't care lol
yeah only one, though they got about 20% off it because we focused arbalest too hard, but not too bad overall
oh right stage2 was lethal
we didn't see a single lethal bug during the mission, so I completely forgot it was supposed to be lethal
I think the same bug that made the non-host players not be able to mine might've messed up the lethal mutator and just made them not spawn or something
are you getting it confused with elite threat
ah, you're right, I am
no wonder people went down so quickly
was so focused on the not mining bug that I didn't think about that
I dont think I've played an elite threat mission in months
feels like it got replaced with rival presence
percentage wise at least lol
I've still been on some elite missions, but there's definitely a ton of rival presence, for the bp mission I imagine and just to show it off
elite nemesis
still insta dies to fire lol
Oh niiiice, black box with mactera plague again
welcome to trijaw hell
3 gunners and a scout is the way
it's haz3 yeah, just bring whatever, doesn't really matter
Last time it was stage 2 edd I think
doing dd after edd, everyone in my group is treating it like such a joke because it is, just pickaxing things to death instead of shooting them, etc
Yeah haz 3 is ez to fuck around on
Anything goes on DD
Iโve been trying really hard each week to get a sub 20m blind run
Best so far is 24 I think
I saw some 11 minute runs on edd in the speedrun channel... how in tf is that possible?
Practice
lot of practice, and some exploit 
Gotta be some exploit involved bc the count down for savage missions alone
But yeah I'm sure they are very fast
And practice much
hey what is today's normal deep dive?
thank u
Edd looks rough this week, just on paper
yeah lethal enemies salvage is just awful
first stage was okay though. i didn't see a nemesis somehow.
I was more concerned about mission 1 honestly, it looked really rough from the text
But at least twins on sandblasted isn't really pain
Two sandblasted edds in a row.. gonna need to refill my copium tanks [I dislike sandblasted because I dislike it]
Nemesis isnโt a guaranteed spawn on rival presence surprisingly
Probably just more likely on rival presence
DD was pretty easy
Can I get a rundown of it?
Would be nice, just woke up
With immediate dreads
can also scroll up for multiple people's walls of text about their exp
Like no option because refinery apparently spawns on top of the cocoon
Pins has it. Mission 1 and 3 are refinery, so no Molly. Mission 1 has dread twins, volatile guts, and mactera plague
Oh god
Eer not mactera, rival presence
Apparently the turrets are near drop in from what I've heard
Also
Dreads as soon as refinery comes in
Like the big thing I've been hearing is the refinery pops them
Thats horrible, god damn
Management does a little bit of trolling
It could be worse. Sandblasted is the most forgiving of all refinery biomes
I have an irrational sandblasted hatred, probably from a few sour solo missions
Last weeks EDD had fucking 5 trawlers
Stage 2 has lethal enemies though, which is very rough on sandblasted due to the trawlers
Getting insta killed by 3 honeycomb is not fun
At least it isnt escort + lethal, unless that doesn't even do anything
Haz 5 lethal enemies though, ugh
Wait that would make pheromones absolutely obliterate anything you jarate righr
Haz 5 lethal enemies swarmageddon :3
Oh every Edd has a negative munster wow
Mutator
Wtf
Discors corrected it to munster
i know. i just usually see nem during rival presence, so i was just surprised i didn't see one this time
Want a fungus bog dive so I can ๐
mushwoom
heard people talking about refinery popping stuff, but didn't happen on our run on either mission
playstation for ref
Odd
I dont see it being too much of a problem, ive dealt with sudden refinery dreads before
Ha ha ha ha ha
at least no shield disruption on magma core edd
Can deep dives have double negative modifiers
I wish
Edd with double negatives and exact objectives
Hollow bough Volatile guts shield disruption 
Hollow bough is the worst biome just because of corpse lickers
If its a bug thing killed them id slap it on
Making "it's a bug thing" impact hostile fauna like spike plants take it from meme to contender pretty quick
Daggervines are cool looking but those fucking corpse lickers will make me blow up the fucking planet
I hope we get more biomes one day
Aight anyways uhh let me get on topic mm myes super elite deep dive where its exact objectives always double negative and goes 6 7 8 in haz
The turret part was rough because we kept getting our controller hack cancelled by exploders, but the rest went pretty well I think
oh to hell with this edd
playing solo and i get 2 menace spawns
in a middle of twins fight
and i get oneshot by arbalest that dug out behind me
twice
Don't worry on solo, they have less health
well i aint doing this edd again most likely
does bosco refresh his revives every stage or no
he does
nice, thanks
The item deep dive hurts
First stage got the new robot enemy that grabs you along with two team mates leaving so it was just me (gunner) and a driller fighting off the twins and the nemesis at the same time
Not the funnest
We almost finished the second stage but the enemies had that lethal modifer and we got instant killed by exploders
anyone wanna do a deepdive? we have 2 slots in pod 8
Steam or Microsoft?
steam
shame sorry man
All good
Good luck tho, it's a pretty crappy map for the weekly deep dive in my opinion
I just don't like it personally
My group had the lovely experience of having two nemesis at the same time in the first stage of the EDD. Luckily we hadn't popped the cocoon yet.
Also that group was pretty smooth sailing. We never went down to a single dwarf.
It's only a problem if you don't have driller with flamies
did anybody else's molly just walk through a solid 5m of terrain on its way back to the drop pod on DD stage 1?
Luckily we had a flamethrower so it wasn't too bad. Definitely still a WTF moment of seeing one spawn then realizing there are in fact two clipping into each other
Sorry for the ping
Yea shit happens, I should be careful when I'll be playing the edd
2d stage regular DD has to be the smallest cave i've seen in this game
How's the elite deep dive
idk try it
lethal enemies stage 2 salvage
youve heard enough
Rival presence stage 1. Also. Pray you don't get a Nemy spawn
Stage 1 was exciting, between the turret controller and the refinery popping the dreadnaught egg off the bat
Any tips for the stages?
kill faster
@fading ruin This gives you a summary of what each stage has. Not really tips, but gives a rough idea of what you're going into. Note this is PC. Seems like Console Dwarfs start off with a Dread fight off the bat instead of PC starting it when they're ready
K thanks
Stage 2 is gonna be the real trouble maker depending on team comp and weapon loadouts
Yeah lethal enemies
yeah stage 2 EDD is rough. even though there are two separate dread secondary objectives, i still recommend bringing more AoE over single target just because of stage 2.
dunno who the refinery falling through dread bit came from, but playstation doesn't have that issue
I'm gonna go sticky fuel driller with tranq rounds and hope it goes well
sounds like a plan. good luck
I heard a few people mention of it. Because I didn't get it in both of my EDD attempts
Just ran my solo EDD on playstation just now and the refinery fell through the dread unfortunately loool
edd this week is ruthless
stage 2 got hairy
i thought last week was pretty simple, just lots of things to kill
team almost got turbofucked by lethal trawlers
Trawlers are fucking scary with Lethal enemies
wonder if it's solo only that it does this, I did it in 3p without that
we had a bulk
early in stage 2
but none during the zones
i went down the most, which almost never happens lol
you get punished hard for being careless
did anyone else get really bad fps this week? went down to the teens sometimes
I hate this weeks EDD. Finished only the first stage after a few attempts. Second stage we almost finished but had 2 bulk detonators spawn one after another
Hahaha seriously
best bet is to use gunner shields to force it away and freeze it when it low
Had a weird player who would call in resupply as soon as we would hit 80 nitra
And host refused to kick him
We wiped soon as we entered stage 3 of DD coz no ammo
ok this edd is way easier solo as gunner
what was i thinking using driller the first time
Those are the best kind of players.
Let me just waste our resources for no good reason
Bulk spawn on uplink really shows the difference between less experienced players and greybeards
thats one of the reasons why it went way better with gunner
i was able to stall it by throwing a shield at it
everyone just loses their minds and within 30 seconds everyone scattered and dead and I can't do anything
to be fair I think I could have clutched if I just killed the bulk immediately but
everyone was already dead and reviving them on haz 5 would give them little to no hp, on lethal enemies. on top of that you have to defend in the crater
We literally made a wall out of resuplys
Also this^
How we handled that is that we made two people lead the bulk away from the uplink and frozekilled him later
yes, it is debatable if that was the best idea
but it worked
If you can figure out who the bulk is aggro on. They can lead the bulk away during the duration of the hold out
yep, but it scarred me enough to the point of talking about it
Stage 1 could pose problems depending if you get a unlucky Nemy spawn
stage 1 is extremely open anyway so nemesis is less of a problem
Oh, I expected it and just took CRSPR with full heat build and range
it was gone in 5 seconds
True, but if the Nemy spawns while you're fighting the Twins. Could be a massive issue
But if the Nemy spawns during the Refinery. Won't be much of a issue
Yeee
All it takes is a spawn at the bad time to cause the Domino effect towards a wipe
I often do pubs. So anything can and will happen, but nothing like the trusty NTP Auto cannon for those situations
Nothing like dropping into a real bad situation in progress and some how bringing it back from the brink of failure
also normal DD stage 3 was just
b o r i n g
if ur the one kiting the horror away from the group, while they're killing dreads
Was helping a friend do last week's DD. I got put on Ghost duty as Gunner
So I was just on my Zip line going from one end of the cave to the other
Lol
I took it back to the start room and was just running in circles
for like 3 minutes
All while I had Metroid Prime boss music playing in the background from one of the mods I had
Based
https://drg.mod.io/deep-rock-galactic-primed
Just about every song fits perfectly into DRG and I love it
Guess what I had the urge to play while kiting the horror around one room for 3 minutes
Lyrics:
Da da da-dum! Da da da! Da da da-dum da da da da! Da da da-dum! Da da da! Da da da-dum da da!
KEKW
thank you so much
so what's been tripping people up about regular DD this week exactly?
dunno, i flew through it
Nothing, I guess
๐คท
It's pretty chill actually
yeah, I was hearing some rumblings and was expecting a lot of spawns or something at least
although hollow bough hurr durr
even the bough was pretty chill
which, considering it's DD map generation combining two missions, is saying a lot
Yeah we have a break after the last week ig
Its just a deep dive after all
also, yes
My brain simply turns off when doing a dd, its super easy
Yea itโs official, every single weapon OC obtained on PS
Kinda bittersweet
Mostly bitter that Iโll be getting twice as many blank cores now
Do they do damage on grab
No idea
But the bump
It hurts
Lethal enemies have me wishing to be grabbed by them instead of bumped
grab didnt instakill me
The grab does damage, but significantly less than rams
DD was pretty relaxed, the only thing that killed me was Bet-C pushing me off a cliff
Bless her
There was a BETC in DD?
No
BET-C has a 5% chance of appearing in any mission. I don't think deep dives are exempt from this.
Map spawns (like breeders, leeches, spitballers, and of course BET-C) are dependent on player count.
You might encounter a BET-C on a Deep Dive if you play with a full team, but not if you do it solo.
Or vice versa
I saw a betc too
At the end of my dd a grabber dropped me inside the drop pod before Molly had docked...
Like what the f the edd
friend got stuck on the pipes/wall in the 3rd stage edd lol
couldn't revive him he was just vibrating
Mmmmmsweetvibrations
never knew this, thought the special stationary map enemies were the same for everyone regardless
EDD is doooooooone
Glad that nightmare is over
It would appear that the Bulk Detonator spawn is guaranteed at stage 2 signal hold out
When you run a 4-man crew
One dc-ed before we start, and he's strangely absent
Clear that, and the rest is a breeze with all the nitra to spend and throw in stage 3
Driller's idea to use C4 and kirov bomb the uplink terminal into the ground is a brilliant too, build a long ass tunnel downwards, all we had to do is to shoot up
while rival presence is annoying, we just decided to bring cryo driller cos I don't want no bulk uplink cucking me
turret controller was near spawn so was easy to drill under and hack too
So how bad is this weeks EDD?
stage 1 is nemesis rng, stage 2 is ๐ with lethal enemies and salvage, stage 3 is dunno havent gotten there
Not bad enough to even discuss I thought, had no issues with it.
Stage 3 is a encore of Stage 1 but replace robots with exploders
stage 2 EDD has a mandatory bulk detonator during uplink
Stage 2 seems to have a Bulk spawning, but it is random when it shows up
I'm more under the impression that the bulk will spawn if you run a full crew
But again, take my word with plenty o' salt, could just be my ass-rotten luck speaking
Three nemesis, three, I appreciate a good joke, but shit ain't funny
I'll say this, if you make it through stage 2, 3 is a cakewalk compared to what that was
Oh right, I forgot to mention one thing
A good respite in form a consolation prize, maybe, but a blessed run I had, no sandstorms occurred, at all, in all three stages
Almost feels like EDD is taking pity on me....
not bad since there is way too much nitra
much more than several previous EDDs
We had a full team and we got lucky. We dealt with 2 bulks before both the hold-outs thankfully
Nice!
Any tips for second stage edd Iโm really struggling with the black box part
there is no blackbox though
After repairing the Mules you have to defend and repair the black box and the cells for the drop pod
oh the uplink
Yeah
you playing solo?
Yes
you could go driller to deal with the tons of bugs but you have to deal with two sets of dreadnought twins so it would be painful 
so maybe gunner would be better
I am using driller with a face melter build I might try sticky flames but I donโt see it being able to hold back a lot of the bugs
try waiting for a red rock blaster on the daily special
I just had a legend 2 soldier who, after 15 mn of deep dive, called 5 supply pods, took the 20 refills, and ruined our mission. Can I report him/do anything ?
no
and a more ammo-guzzling build since your solo and it doesnt really matter
nice! First toxic player in 200hrs of gameplay
I guess I was gonna get one at some point
legend 2 being a griefer?
didn't say a single word
Eugh, toxic players
I give your ideas a try thank you
sticky flame has no problem destroying grunt hordes
call him cringe and get the entire lobby to laugh at him/c4 him
That's on the host really, there's a cooldown between calling supplies, host should've kicked them after seeing them call several in a row.
Letting someone call 5 supplies in a deep dive (unless it was the last stage) AND letting them take all the ammo is just poor situational awareness.
We were busy on the dreadnaught, but I guess you are right
Itโs just sad if now I have to watch what my teammates are doing, I thought people would be mature about this
People in general are, but once in a blue moon you'll run into someone like that.
Rottenbeards... Yeah, you can't live them, you can't live without em'
boi this week EDD is a nightmare, it takes for about 1 hour with my team to complete all three levels
almost got wiped out several times
give me the deets if you dont mind
for the first level, we got ambushed by a dozen of sniper turrets, burst turrets, etc.
wait how does stationary objects ambush you
i mean theres a lot of them
oh phew i was worried that they added moving sentinel turrets
and we almost got wiped out several times cuz of the goddamn sniper turrets
The control box is right next to spawn, get the driller to drill underneath it ASAP
im the driller and i do what exactly you just said
Then how did you die to snipers?
Bro, I did edd few times and first time the liquid morkite thing didn't drop on the dreadnought egg but now it does
I thought deep dives are all the same for the whole week
they reset on thursday?
Yes, every Thursday at 1 p.m. CET
We just had the weekly reset yesterday 0.o
KEK
I think I found the most storm trooper dwarf ever
And I have seen and heard some real storm troopers dwarfs
I just had a 5 man EDD. Idk how it happened but I spawned in the mission console of the base and we had a full roster an additional scout. Was fun.
I wonder just how many players the game could handle if you removed the 4 player cap
They are for the same sized team. You were probably running different EDDs with different numbers of teammates. Cave gen varies a bit depending on how many dwarves there are, afaik
probably used cheats to level up instantly
those actually exist?
yes
and its not like a sandbox mod or anything, you can even have people use it in unmodded servers
I love that spot on the second deep dive that has 9 stabber vines clustered together
lol
got a mod that changes the scream sound when you pop an egg and it's fun
stage two DD was really peaceful tbh
hah, the drop pod kills a stabber vine in stage 3
bet-c on stage 3?? why is that not in the pins?
i dont remember one
well, right now i have her helping me
Because it's not an objective and entirely dependent on scaling
but doretta goes right through her activation range, and she does work to the poor dozer
what scaling exactly?
player count scaling
you on console perhaps?
cause i just went trough the regular one solo and there was no bet c, just like when i did it whit a group yesterday
huh, why did i get one then
there was a bulk tho
i've had no bulky yet, hoping that doesn't change
i've had a bulky die by doretta once, i'd rather not have it again
i lost 2 segments to him, eaven tho he didint do any damage to her
lost 1 segment to bet-c, but she's being fucking amazing in helping out once i got her repaired
sadly she doesn't attack the beamers aha
obliterates the rocks at least
gota be honest tho, i forgot how much multiple players scale dread hp so seeing stiky flames oblitorate the classic dread was nice.
escpecialy bc i havent used the flamethrower in a while
cleanest EDD ive done so far, no nemesis on stage 1 and only 3 downs in total (cant say the same for the rest of my team
)
also ended with 700 nitra in storage so dont be afraid to bring crappy ammo efficiency
ty
might be a good thing given the combo of rival presence with dreads
Stage 1 of the EDD had a Nemesis and a random Dreadnought spawn for me.
EDD stage 2 was my favorite this week because my whole team was down with 1 minute on drop pod being ready, I typed out sorry bros I have to kite. I proceeded to fly around with special powder and grapple for the entire time dodging hordes of enemies until pod was ready then I gtfo of there
Dreadnought twins are the EDD1 secondary objective
Yeah, and after we killed the random Dreadnought that just kind of spawned spontaneously and got those guys down to about 25% each, Nemesis spawned in.
a deadnought that wasn't part of the objective?
Yes.
that... shouldn't happen
It spawned before we popped the egg.
After you killed it did it show yโall completing the secondary objective
Nope.
Weird
also it happens in stage 3
That edd second stage felt impossible
Uplink, detonator spawn which was yea sure ok fine
But the warden had 10 slashers
Along with the detonator

I like how it was so scarring everyone talks about it even after it's over
Did i mention that my nitra and red sugar also desynced lol
lol
it definitely can
for Mining Mission, Point Extraction and On-site Refinery, waves can rarely be replaced by a random dreadnought.
Chances of that happening are very low but it can still happens.
how rare is it?
less than 2% chance, very rare
yikes
the more you know
I let my engineer talk us into defending the objective on the bridge it spawned on instead of digging it dow to ground level bc we had no driller
So that ended poorly
For reference I have around 110 hours and have had it twice
Once when i was starting like 20 hours in and one the other week
you're a lucky lad 
Over 200 hrs and I've also only had it twice
I got one within I think my first 20 hours or so, though it was a regular solo mission, rather than a deepdive. Was back before I got my first promotion. Was honestly kinda disappointed they haven't been as common as that made me expect, lol
Is engineer getting a 100% refill on turret ammo after each stage a bug or feature?
a bug
Damn, I actually wish it was a feature, sentry ammo drains fast
Man, this dive made me go full sweatlord.
Two stages chock full of exploders, and that first stage was downright painful. Also, can I just say that getting sandstorms while the level is full of swarmer tunnels just blows?
this bug has been a thing since forever so it's likely not get fixed anywhere soon
Interestingly this bug applies to crossbow's special ammo as well.
Interesting, might try that
I had two random dreads spawn in a row once. That was really something.
yo this week fucking blew ngl had me sweating hard
good job
Thanks!
I'm just left waiting for the next thursday
I have one core but I don't feel like searching for a machine event even more
Is there anything specific to know before heading into the EDD?
I've completed a fair few deep dives. But never tried an EDD
it's the same thing, but harder
Check what the stages have on offer and maybe read through what others have encountered
More info on the dive youre about to do will always help no matter what
Can you view all stages of an EDD before you go into it?
On drg? Or do you have to check online
we have a regular posting and updating the first pinned message every week
check the pinned messages
Ty
usually people finish a run by the hour after reset so you can know by then
Turn around and run to the back of the cave in the first mission
If you time it right you can shoot the dreadnaught egg and the refinery will insta kill both twins
Use your scanner to see the refinery falling
Once the first wave of bugs and the twins are out youโre clear to hack the rival doohickey ezpz
Failed the EDD because my game crashed and I was the host. never failed like that before kekw
whole team died at least 15 times
each
still fucking completed the elite dive
boo yah
last week's edd was a bit more intense
how difficult is the timing
Not too hard, itโs just that the refinery falls much slower than it seems like it ought to so you do have to watch it on the scanner
No the refinery drops where the egg is
So you pop the egg right before the refinery drops through it
oh
You can do the same concept with supply drops as well but itโs not as much damage
We managed to kill one of the twins, but not both. Still helped an awful lot though
Edd was quite the challenge, i think its really a matter of whether rngesus is forgiving for a specific run or not, on another note, fuck tons of nitra
edd stage 1 sounds horrid lol
and they act like volatile guts helps but it just gonna kill me every power attack ๐
Edd stage 1 is actually kinda chill in a way
Stage 2 is the one to look out for
And stage 3 is somewhat challenging but it isnt impossibly hard
The main thing id say to look out for are nemmies in this edd
I used vim, gamma microwave and neuro nades and it worked fine enough for me
It was helpful when getting them off pipelines ngl
Just wanna say, again, I had a 5 man EDD and we had PLENTY of nitra folks. We ended and has at least 6 or 7 resupps. Wild. Just survive and keep the DPS up and you will win. You have all the ammo you need.
yeah i used it mostly for health. 100% would not have survived if i didint.
the first stage is the only one i had any trouble whit nitra.
Is anybody doing a deep dive?
ive done both twice, once whit a team and second as solo, and dont feel like playing for a bit after that solo edd so nah.
Ok
Who completed a elite deep dive, how you go further then second stage, we tried complete it even with 2 gunners, engi end driller and there was too much bugs even with this team.
kill them faster
yep
prep the fighting area more
make sure you can funnel the bugs to one or two locations
and just shoot that area
there will be enough nitra where u can just make an artificial floor
at the shitty fuel pod location
sticky flames was amazingly usefull for me when doing it solo
and i diditn prepare anything
My record is around 600 nitra
also if the ammount of bugs is a proplem, 2 engies or drillers is better than 2 gunners
8 resupplys
Doing a deep dive if anyone wants to join
you want to go heavy on the aoe cc
also bring scout hes better than a second gunner id say
his ifgs are very very powerful here
and a cryo driller or ntp gunner packing clusters can do serious work
Add in the ability to light the cave giving everyone increase vision and survivability
Is that supposed to be a suggestion or a call to all players doing the edd to bring a scout?
You can easily get up to 600 in stage 2 and 800 in stage 3, but this carries over from each stage so in total there could possibly be about 1500 nitra
For the entire edd*
imagine having more nitra than gold from a carassus
That's 18.75 supply drops
Yea I tried the EDD yesterday and we died at the end of the second mission
It might've been my fault for not going into the driller bunker
I didn't know
Jesus
No need to bunker, prioritize moving because bulks and nemmies will be your best friend if you bunker
Oh yea are enemy spawn set in stone on dd and edds?
Eg therell always be wardens and bulks on stage 2 of the edd
We just got super overwhelmed at the end when a bulk spawned and then a warden
And a bunch of mactera
Oh man it was a bad time
There might be a cue to spawn a certain type of enemy set in
queue? que? cue? Idfk
que or cue
So i was just unlucky got it
Same here
I think everyone is getting wardens and bulks stage 2
You have to keep moving in this edd, staying stationary is a death sentence as ironic as it may seem for stage 2 salvage
or its confirmation bias
yeah dont be afraid to vacate the sphere
ideally the bulk is dead before it reaches you
Also where the fuel drops is also rng, sometimes it may land next to the relay, other times it lands in a bad position
I went to lure it away and kill it but the warden and 7-10 slashers also came
By the sound of it, it is seeded
So wardens and a bulk huh 
huh I thought fuel was seeded too
it came in directly on top of an arch for us and it was awful
Trying to survive the rest of the swarm at the uplink
I was running spinning death engi and the other 2 were a gunner n driller
Probably couldve done it with a bunker but couldnt because bulks were spawning 
huh
those 3 should be able to handle it
you did mostly the right play though
just dont get caught
Yea
We were fucked because the bulk lost interest and the buffed slashers got me before i could reload
Bear in mind there was a wall right behind me
I did the edd twice and the fuel dropped at different places for me, albeit they were within the same area
hmm interesting
guess thats an rng element some people will get screwed by and probably contributes to people who think its hard and people who think it isnt
indeed, i had a nemesis when trying the edd solo, but when i tried again after dying to the dreads there was no nemesis.
Thats already known really
I thought the fuel locations were seeded (obviously it depends on the version)
i think those are
0 bulks for us today on stage 2 (on pc at least)
also, isn't the dreadnought egg's position fixed?
because on our third try it changed on stage 1
and it made it SO much easier
i'm gonna cry, i hosted for the EDD, we blazed stage 1, scraped by on stage 2, and my game freaking CRASHED on the last minutes of stage 3
just AAAAUGH
the game feels more unstable recently, i've had a lot of disconnect issues, crashes, and other stuff recently, in normal missions and the dives
I get visibly annoyed when I can't mine for longer than 30 second without my ass getting chomped by grunts
What kind of an EDD is up at the moment, as in what objectives on each stage and are there any bulks n' such?
check pinned
Could have sworn somebody said EDD Stage 2 is like a gatekeeper
Bulk during the uplink holdout, it's like they know exactly how to consistently ruin everyone's day
somebody did indeed say that
I didn't get any bulks stage 2, plenty on 1-3 though
i got no bulks in elite both times i did it if i rememebr correct. i did get one in the normal dd during the 3rd stage at the omoran heart.
I got bulk during uplink
And a Warden right on top of it
Then the mactera spawned in and that just put the cherry on top
Stupid tri jaws
When literally 4 trijaw are flying around me while I have swarmers and slicers at my feet
Its a little difficult lmao
Even on scout
I was a bit of a buffoon bringing cryo nades and not ifg but
I feel the need to bring cryo for breeders
I dont think I saw any breeders
cryo is nice for panic detonator freeze
but yeah ifg is good for the funny 2 praetorians spewing cum on the uplink
I'll run it again with ifg and see how it goes
This is probably gonna be my first deep dive
I hope I do well
I'm not wretched at the game in my opinion
You need to have a base idea of what you're doing to even participate in Deep Dives anyway
if u can handle haz 3 u are fine
I'm comfy on Haz 4
For the most part
I struggle on engi and driller cause I'm still learning them
Scout and Gunner I do fine
I'm either killing things or running away from the things doing the killing
gunner is idiot proof as long as they use shield well and scout is theoretically idiot proof but attracts a lot of idiots
Big fact
Thankfully I'm not an idiot I just enjoy playing the funny movement characters in most games
Especially after I learned that Special Powder existed
"hey do you like fun move techs? Well this turns your secondary weapon into a movement tool"
Okay Game yes I will play you more
Super Shotgun was the best weapon in Eternal for a reason lmao
Speaking of Super Shotgun
I actually found the Double Barrel OC the other night
So I may use that for a little bit and build around it
according to people it's not that good
if that's the double tap one the difference is negligible
personally I think the shotgun is totally outclassed by zhukovs unless you go for special powder
you need to be dangerously close to enemies for jumbo shells full effectiveness but yeah
Alrighty
I run special powder exclusively because I love the bonus movement
I also don't have any other secondaries yet nor other overclocks
Nothing wrong with Special. The Boomstick has enough damage to clear any light enemy that gets too close
Every time I play Scout without Special Powder I regret it. It's too fun.
The ability to cross caverns instantly is too valuable to my monkey brain
just have to remember dont jump while firing
I been using the explode on reload akimbos. Pretty good burst damage on scout
Finally cleared my first elite deep dive today
Stage 3 spawns were intense haha
Went as gunner with Neurotoxin Payload AC
It's boring, but if it ain't broke. Don't fix it
itโs not just pretty good. Itโa one of the highest dps weapons in the game atm
single target gunner crying in the distance
though I guess his is sustained and longer range
how's this weeks dives? bf and i will tackel em soon
Deep dive? Easy. Elite deep dive? Challenging the first time maybe
Confession time:
I've never done a Deep Dive
how long have you played the game without doing deep dives
youre amazing still
๐
i prefer to play with full team, it's more fun... but always have issues with that ONE lacking player
sighs
i did it whit a team at first too, so i didint eaven get anything for doing it solo
expect xp and gold but yeah.
mhm
I swear the lacking player is either the Scout or the Driller with me
Is the Deep Dive Elite give better loot than the normal? If so, how much better? ๐
It's the same 3 things that the Deep dive gives
Beat Stage 1 gets you a blank core
Stage 2 a Weapon OC (Black if you own all the Weapon OC)
Stage 3 a cosmetic core
Thank you! Then what is the point to run the ELITE one?
Some people like challenge
Deep dive elite is mainly to challenge you
i see ๐
also 2 more chanches to get an overclock you want
ya its the only way to get a guaranteed 3rd blank, weapon and cosmetic oc per week
Just loaded int the edd. This is what hell looks like. I lasted 10 seconds with a team of 4 dwarfs
Its very easy to drill through and hack the controller from below ground
If your driller aint doing that then he sucks
and since its sandblasted, it aint bad eaven if you arent driller
Exactly, the controller should be the easiest and the first thing to take down when starting stage 1, unless theres a nemmy at the start
Tbh
The 2nd stage is such ass
Hidden leech, countless oppressors, double bulk and acid spittets
1st round is a warmup imo
Don't get me started on the sandsharks
A friend got teleported out of the world bc of one
Couldn't res so he had to use his iron will
simply shoot the bugs
love how both times i dodged the leech and only noticed it when it started retracting
Ofc my man
It aint easy to shoot if you get a literal julius ceasar formation of exploders
I can freeze em but some get too close for me to cancel out their animation
Hi guys, I always struggle to find people to do Deep Dive Elite, I play on PC from the Microsoft Store.. Is it normal?
anyone got past the second mission on the edd? Id like to know what you did for the scans
Clarify what you mean by scans
the uplink and power for the drop ship
Repellant as engi
Filter the bug to travel to the sides
Gunners can be smart on using shield at right time, not when someone is only down
So you know how theres a little bride above the uplink, you are using the repellant to keep the bugs from going up there or you are blocking off one side?
Lethal enemies after all so donโt underestimate even the small guys and the usual grunt
Also no clue which part you mean specifically unless I see it
Fair enough, cant expect you to remember the exact layout of the map
Iโve ran the EDD for folks 3 times now so I technically remember the larger details kek
but not the part youโre describing
But if you understand the concept of repellant, it should be the same situation as here, have repellant plats a line behind you and making it so they come further from the front
Im be honest I never used repellent before but I'll try that out , I can figure out the rest on the first map
Reminder that repellant just changes the bug pathing
Not outright prevents bugs from ever going there
Bug always chooses the shortest route to bite your ass, a repellant plat basically makes it so it shows to the bug that the route to you via that plat is 2x the travel so they would go around it
alright so its like playing tower defense game, thats my take away. Thanks bl4ankets
Big thing as well. Remember to clear out your line of sight. There's a lot of pillars around the drop pod
With decent planning. A Bunker may be a idea as long as you do it right
I honestly dont recall seeing any lethal enemies in stage 2
We wiped coz ofcourse my team tried to make a bunker in stage 2
The difference between a successful bunker and a tomb is a way out of a bad situation and being built right
The tunnel to the Bunker is 2 to 3 full drill length so the bugs have time to get into the tunnel and clump up into nice groups for the gunner and Driller to deal with
Lethal enemies means enemies deal double damage
Youโre thinking of elite threat
Yup im stupid
so many people forget the tunnel and it turns into bug feeding pit
You'll be surprised at how many people forget about the tunnel
And having a "Oh shit" plan in the event a Bulk starts digging to it and you don't have the length in the tunnel to deal with it
dw you're not alone, I got mixed up by lethal/elite too
even if you do a long tunnel, when doing an underbunker on an uplink, the bulk is quite happy to burrow in from above rather than using the tunnel (happened on s2 this week), so it's not the best either way in that case unless you have an engie around to make it a deeper bunker
luckily I heard it early so we had time to dig out
bro this was literally a grave where they dug straight down and had the engineer shoot platforms
but they diddnt realize oppressors can slam their way through
so all 3 of them were dead WAAY into the ground
and surrounded by bugs
That's the first mistake there. Dug it straight down without having a Entry tunnel for the bugs to path into
THat wasn't a bunker at all. That was an all you can eat bug buffet
finally beat the edd
had use bh mini with the venting, so I could use the fear to push them out the scans
I saw that name and thought I posted in the wrong discord

ah yeah that's definitely one of the worst types of bunkers. even if they get lucky and don't get an oppressor or bulk, when they have to leave they're gonna be swarmed the entire swarm at once
and in general I've found people who make that type aren't good enough to drill straight to the drop pod ramp either, instead just coming out somewhere random
best bunker is no bunker
A good bunker will work. Just you get more bad ones over good ones and all that depends on many factors. Depends on current mission, team and if they're willing to commit to it, good planning on the driller on making it, and what bugs is on the spawn rotation. I won't make a bunker if there's a lot of bulks spawning in that run
Just finished this deep dive by far one of the hardest I've ever done
Is there a page for deep dive squads? I need someone Iโll feel lonely
a good bunker is worse then a bad bunker because then the game becomes boring as fuck
Nowadays I don't use bunker as often as before, but its still something in the Driller playbook I keep in mind when it calls for it
The fun part is watching the Last dwarf standing attempting to do the Hail mary of all revives only to be yoinked away by a Mactera grabber
imagine being a scout player and your team decides to do a bunker play
you gotta feel claustrophobic when you cant grapple in there, eww
Honestly. I prefer the scout to be outside the bunker. They can kite the bugs around or call out HVTs such as Bulks and Shellbacks
A bunker isn't ideal for everything. As it can one hell of a time if the game REALLY loves Shellbacks
Had a Driller during a Haz 5 run bunker up just as the Swarm was announced and make a Quickie bunker, but I notice the game was very spawn happy with Shell backs. So I made a Zipline as Gunner and used it to keep myself safe from most of the bugs and only focus on Acid spitters and Mactera. I saw a Shell back roll right into that bunker and within 10 seconds of that shell back coming in. I became Last Dwarf Standing
Shellbacks is the 2nd hardest counter to a Bunker. 1st being Bulks
funnily on this week's s2, we had already seen a bulk spawn before so knew they were in the spawn pool, so when uplink time came, I went should we even bother bunkering since they're in the pool? the driller (2man) went it'll be fiiine and made an underbunker. then first wave I hear the sound of a bulk within seconds of it starting
driller just sighed and went off to dig the escape tunnel
that said, it did end up fine underbunkering the fuel pod as no bulks spawned for that, so it's just whether you want to roll that die or not
Always have a god damn escape tunnel. So you and your team can GTFO
I donโt end up getting in bunkers with people because they never make it correctly
Iโm just like yeah enjoy getting a bulk in there without an escape route
Or a shellback playing the best game of Dwarf pinball ever
agreed
I can help you guys through this EDD in a bit
Thanks but im a console peasant

i almost dont even want to bother lmao, but also, dem overclocks tho
Your call
what's your region, so i know what kinda ping i'm gonna be playing on lol
Eastern United States
aight ye why not
Currently eating ATM. SO give me about 10-15 minutes
k
What's your Steam friend code BTW?
This week's Elite Deep Dive feels like it's a bit much, at least for me. Starting with volatile guts, one big room, rival bots present, multiple terminators being spawned, and a bunch of sniper and burst turrets scattered around at the start, on just the first mission alone, gets rather hectic.
And then the second is lethal bugs.
It's a fun one!
A tad too 'fun' for my liking.
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thanks mission control ily
Mission control our beloved
wow someone said the "refinery broke the egg" in the mission one of the edd, then tell me how Ive ran this 10 times before and the egg is no where close. not to mention I dont think drops can damage eggs
and this happen 3 times in a row
It's been iffy on whether or not it's real and no one has gave video evidence of it happening
Its probably not true
Playing on PS refinery breaks egg every time
4 man team if that makes a difference but it shouldnโt
Not the first time Iโve heard of discrepancies between playerbase of things like drilldozer popping eggs or not etc
If I had to guess theyโre slightly differently seeded between platforms
As far as Iโm aware PS didnโt have the hidden morkite vein last week either, it was all out in the open
check the lfg tabs
It shouldnt really
Got footage of it happening?
Only proof I got is the 3 other dorfs that ran it with me like six times
@royal bramble
@eager dome
100% second this. It definitely breaks every time for me as well (ps5).. I ran it solo, but restarted stage 1, 4-5 times to see refinery guaranteed to hit the cocoon openโฆ crazy first stage. Completed whole thing solo, and first thing was hardest due to forced dread fight.
Cavegen is different between PS and PC versions, so not surprising to see a difference of experiences
Sounds pretty memorable
Twins plus controller plus possible nemmy? Sounds like a fun time alright
Was not fun ๐ the nemesis scared the shit out of me cause I was just looking to gtfo and he spawned right next to the button to call the drop pod.
We gave up trying to fight the whole horde head on and instead started exploiting the refinery to instakill the twins and then taking out everything else from the safer end of the cave before coming back to finish hacking the doohickey and get the refinery started
You could get someone to hack the controller while the rest handle the twins
Im on ps4 so its not discrepancies between platforms, but when it happened to me I didnt see the egg pop but I did see the blue organic material that forms around eggs
btw I really love this weeks edd, I hope next weeks is this challenging
For ref the refinery did not pop the egg for us on PS4 host (on PS5), but we had a 3man unlike the others
Finished the EDD! And it was my first EDD clear!
Did it as scout
was commended for my use of special powder
wow the edd this week is a toughie
Darn bots popped the egg in the first mission lol
Yus
The "Gunner. You're not allowed to use your Ziplines for the entirety of the mission" Warning
Damn, the EDD is rough this week.
luckily you can use nitra for health semi- regularly do to there being so much of it
I have no video evidence but about 5-6 months ago, a little after s1 dropped, there was a normal dd that popped the hiveguard egg with the mobile refinery drop
or if u mean this week then derp
I mean this week

