deep-dive-discussion

[jolly hazel]

same for edd and haz 5

idk what your skill level is

[hexed lantern]

Does Steve distract dreadnaughts?

[wraith shard]

You're wrong it's one of the worst ever. I keep getting rank 15s joining me too. Don't want to be the bad guy but i know they'll never make it

[jolly hazel]

carry harder

[copper anvil]

Alright thanks

[jolly hazel]

why am I wrong and why is it the worst ever

there are two in my memory that were the hardest and this does not compare at all

[wraith shard]

Ok you're right it's not one of the worst ever, it's just one of the worst ever.

[jolly hazel]

I agree its rougher than its been recently

but thankfully the mission combos and warnings aren't as bad as it could be

[wraith shard]

Last time i tolerated another engy but i know i have to play him because no one else will do it right and no one else probs has ECR. Sure enough he has quick deploy turrets and plasma grenades and a freaking stubby. He admits it's the worst weapon but swears by his overclock, and only got 1/2 as many kills.

[jolly hazel]

you dont need ecr to succeed with engie lol

nothing what you described is bad

[wraith shard]

I qualified my statement: i got 2X as many kills.

[jolly hazel]

why not 3x as many?

[wraith shard]

cuz i wasn't triggering swarmers for extra

[jolly hazel]

sounds like a skill issue

saying to yourself "no one else will do it right" is setting yourself up for frustration if the engineer doesn't perform exactly to your specifications

[wraith shard]

Quick deploy is a skill issue. If you're skilled you can look ahead and plan and use full power turrets.

[jolly hazel]

oh yeah the extra 2 dps lol

[wraith shard]

I would shank Karl himself for 1 unit of DPS

[jolly hazel]

fair

I just use them for trash clearing, not for any real dps

em refire on stubby is better than most warthog mods imo and apparently turret discharge is meta but I cant vibe with it

[stiff mica]

guys

as we speak we are missin 4 morkite in EDD we have triple searched everye cave but cant seem to find it

what now xD

[wraith shard]

Look in the refuel room, there’s a crevice with the morkite you need in there

[viral kayak]

lmao happened to us to

[wraith shard]

There! I got tired of failing it as a team so i did it solo. 1255 kills, 3 downs, almost 2 hours. Did it in my gown, too! ECR engy with Breach Cutter and slow build turrets. All that effort for an EM discharge and a mustache.

[lament trail]

Emd is really strong and one the only two primary setups I use with engie, so sounds like a good reward to me

[jolly hazel]

what's the other

[lament trail]

Ecr lok

[fallen jetty]

When fighting a dread and you blow up a bulk near it, will the dread survive if it isn't in it's vulnerable state? Like when the hivegaurds butt is closed.

[jolly hazel]

I love ecr lol

[fallen jetty]

I really need to try this one. I only use executioner and only use lok for engie

[jolly hazel]

I used to use executioner but ecr has 10x the utility

[fallen jetty]

Dooope

[jolly hazel]

ok single target with the explosion and electrical damage stack

[gleaming gust]

oh man that nemesis and bulk combo at the third stage

[jolly hazel]

and very good wave clear if u just focus on 3 lock go 3 lock go

[idle hollow]

this round of deep dives were nice and easy have they made EDDs easier since escort got added?

[somber hatch]

and then everyone clapped for you

[atomic prawn]

wat

[hoary cove]

they are both good. You can’t really compare them when they do completely different things

ecr wrecks hordes, exec destroys patrol bots and HVTs

[reef meadow]

#deep-dive-speedrunning message

[valid ginkgo]

Oh, thanks but we already found it! Done with both dives. c:

[lyric bridge]

Hiveguard can be bulk 1shot when his weakspots are up but his ass isn’t out, dreadnaught can’t though in my experience, armor has to be off

[lost jungle]

finally did EDD solo

pog

[burnt bear]

in edd on stage 2 ,is morkit impossible to find?

[lost jungle]

theres some behind the pillar in the first room u go to refuel in

[burnt bear]

like we got 145 morkites

but i looked in every corner on the map

[long knoll]

in the refill room, theres a weird armpit shape that has some underneath it

we had to look for awhile too

but theres enough

[burnt bear]

now i feel so bad that i kicked my teammate.

i thought they have it and didn't depo

[queen patrol]

you monster

[lost jungle]

LOL

[midnight citrus]

lebruh

management is doing the yearly eyesight test to decide if they want to keep paying you

[potent seal]

????

why would you kick them

thats such a bad reason

[ebon anchor]

This edd kinda rough with less experienced people I feel

Probably not the worst one but things can go south really quickly

[junior fossil]

it depends on the number of bulk dets

[ebon anchor]

Stage 2 team scattered when bulk spawned mid digging. Was struggling to defend and revive people.

Stage 3 dreadnaught spawned before egg, and nemesis popped egg too

[hoary cove]

if you have trouble with bulks, i always recommend the good ole ifg

[ebon anchor]

I think they played really well though, just went things go hairy, stuff just happened

[sharp vortex]

how hard and long are deep dives?
I have them locked for now but doing promotion quest

[atomic prawn]

30-40 mins?

difficulty is relative 😂 DDs are a cakewalk and EDDs are just a bit tricky depending on mutators

[ebon anchor]

This EDD kinda long for me

[unkempt saffron]

Gotta make sure you aggro the nemmy first

[wraith shard]

This week's EDD is particularly long yes

The first 2 stages are fairly hard

All 3 of the stages has activities that benefit from builds with the ability to output alot of damage quickly

Note that at least 3 bulk detonators will spawn on any of the 3 stages

And one nemesis

[velvet salmon]

fun

[wraith shard]

The first stage is 2 egg salvage

Second 150 morkite(5 veins only) escort

3rd stage 300 morkite 1 dreadnought

Increased presence of acid spitter and mactera on the first 2

No rival presence other than 1 nemesis

First 2 stage features vertical caves

[jade tusk]

Recommend beer is Dark Morkite. It'll help on the EDD stage 2 as there'll be enough morkite to prevent tapping into a very cheeky morkite vein in the refueling room

[wraith shard]

Or "accidentally" being 3 morkite short because someone didnt know how to mine

[jade tusk]

I had "encourage" scouts to be better miners. Due to them leaving sometimes 5-7 Nitra left on a vein due to crappy mining job

By Encourage. I mean Nuking them with a fat boy

[lament lantern]

This EDD is so terrible, wow

like, the objectives aren't bad, but the terrain is

[waxen terrace]

its pretty doable

only issue is stage 1 where you gotta avoid being hit cause lethal slashers are a pain in the ass

we just made a bunkie for stage 1

[lament lantern]

yeah, any tips for soloing it as engie? slashers and acid spitters are my worst enemies aha

[jade tusk]

Your turrets is your best friend. Turret whip is a pretty good upgrade for the Warthog as it gives the turret a good burst damage and some AoE

[lament lantern]

hmm, i might have to try out a warthog build then

for this deep dive, and last dd + edd my current shard diffractor build did amazingly well (and in missions ofc)

[azure quail]

does EDD give better rewards than DD?

like more weapon OCs?

[random rampart]

its all rnd

you might get the best on regular dd and shit on edd

[azure quail]

well

i meant does it give like more

ik OCs are random

[slow laurel]

no, its the same amount of stages

if anything you do technically get more OCs by doing both

[waxen terrace]

^

[lament lantern]

they both give the same rewards

[azure quail]

how so?

[lament lantern]

one blank core from each (so two total), one OC from each (so two total)

[azure quail]

or could just do 2 of each?

[lament lantern]

you only get deep dive rewards once a week..

[azure quail]

oh

[pseudo spade]

Only just looking at the deep dives this week, both of them look like hell.

[jolly hazel]

yes you can when they take up the same slot lol

as long as u hit head/weakspots I find ecr does enough

[jade tusk]

I find ECR better for crowd control and Exec better if you want a single target killer and you adapt your secondary for the other

ECR I find the shard to be a good partner for it. Exec. You can never say no to Nukes

[feral atlas]

I genuinely would not take Exec + Nuke unless you're at the level where you can sail through Haz5 double mutators with 0-1 downs. It's a glass cannon build.

[lament trail]

Can still use shard for crowd control too, it just does it all

Vir for sticky flames or endothermic for less warcrime Fatboy but more ammo

[feral atlas]

Endothermic is, if anything, worse than Fat Boy due to the unreliability of the fuze mechanism when you're under pressure.

You need to hold down the beam on the platform for 2s to get the blast, if it gets interrupted by a bug hitbox or you twitch and it goes off target, you need to restart.

It's not that different from taking Exec + Nuke, it's something you can feel comfortabl taking when you're good enough at the game that you can afford to style on the bugs a bit.

[jade tusk]

There's always pack rat PGL

[echo storm]

exec and nuke is fun on escorts

[lament trail]

The blast getting interrupted isn't that big of a deal, the raw aoe and damage being done beforehand will easily wipe the mooks swarming you

Especially with the slowdown mod is quite fine under pressure, though it does take slightly more thought than just firing a normal pgl or bc, I wouldn't put it at level of fat boy glass cannon

4.2m radius is insanely large and extremely cheap in ammo for what you get, both the charging and blast parts

The biggest downside is it takes some effort to learn just how big it is because there's no visual for it

[feral atlas]

Again, it's not complete trash, it's just too gimmicky to be reliable when you're not cruising through the mission.

[lament trail]

It has a bit of learning involved in how to use it properly, but after that I'd call it quite fine even for not easy runs

The damage and range are insane and the setup is quite quick after getting used to it

Quick single platform shot into murder everything with slowdown

[feral atlas]

Can't you just run ECR?

[lament trail]

Once they fix it slowing down dwarves I'll be able to recommend it with no caveats

Ecr has nothing on the range of the laser

4.2m is nearing Doretta tunnel width

I ran ecr plus platform for a fair while, platform does much better at swarms by far

[feral atlas]

You're assuming Fat Boy level payouts, when that volume of bugs in itself tends to increase the chances of them pathing over the platform and interrupting the hitbox.

[lament trail]

You can shoot the platform before the swarm, then the slowdown will have them dead before they get over it

[feral atlas]

Though I will agree escort is probably the best objective type for it.

Same reason why it's the best objective type for Fat Boy, since the bugs spawn in a compact mass

[lament trail]

It's great on defense yeah, but with some practice it's perfectly fine using it in active situations like expedition

It's just not point and click level like default weapons, needs 2 clicks and the first needs a bit more thought

The radius is big enough that I found is surprisingly easy to pop all of hive guards horns in 2 blasts

I'm guessing the blast is disintegrate too so bypasses the explosion resist

[feral atlas]

That in itself is a problem. More gimmicks just means more ways for it to go wrong. The weapon isn't idiot proof, though fortunately in this case the payout is usually enough to compensate for the time consume for the gimmick.

At least it isn't the laser bouncing OC it was in beta.

[lament trail]

It's definitely not idiot proof, but once learned I'd say it's noticably less fragile than Fatboy partially because of how much more ammo you get and partially because it's still the sd, so it's just a strong general purpose weapon even if you don't use the platform part

Missing out if bringing it and not using it obviously, but it's far more versatile just at base

[feral atlas]

That's less of a comment on the OC, than a comment on the base weapon's power.

PGL is currently probably the weakest engi secondary.

Too overspecialized on killing moderate to large numbers of weak enemies, and loses either that ability or most of it's ammo to do anything else.

BC can do both, just range limited, which rarely matters as melee bugs need to close in to do anything to you. And shard can also do both, with the range compensating for the weaker crowd killing part.

[jolly hazel]

exec+nuke aka "do you mind if I take your resupply scout?"

[lament trail]

The base weapon being good is a noticable part of why it's less fragile, in a panic for people not used to the platform part, there's always the option of falling back to just raw lasering whereas with Fatboy all you have are your 4 or whatever nukes

Gives more opportunity to learn to use the platform part in less breezy missions

Will probably already be building the laser for aoe to exploit the platform part anyway

I imagine the devs will add a better visual to it eventually (... Maybe), that should make it more clear to people learning it just how damn strong it is

[feral atlas]

Just give stats to the blast numbers instead of just a line.

Unfortunately, that still isn't going to really fix it's bad relatoinship with repellent

[lament trail]

It's not really the blast that's the problem with visuals, it's that it doesn't show it for the charging part either

As I said earlier, the charging part is strong enough to wipe most mooks before the blast even comes out, it's just not obvious how big it is

I imagine a lot can't be bothered to think about doubling the listed aoe number

I was that way too until hearing people gush about it and started paying attention (and more importantly try using it at longer aoe ranges)

Repellent is good for it, lowers the chances of a bug crawling over the platform

It doesn't matter that they're not on it, the radius is enormous so if just means less effort required to not hit a bug while charging

[feral atlas]

isn't endothermic a flat 400 in 5m?

[lament trail]

There's definitely a fair number of times where the mooks I'm shooting at are all dead before the blast happens, and I have to make the first world problem decision of ehh do I keep shooting just to make the cool blast or stop shooting because it's a waste

No idea, never saw numbers, but 400 at 5m would fit with what I get by feel

4.2m for the charge and 5m radius for the blast is insanely huge

Fatboy blast aoe is only 4m, it's just the radiation that's 8m

[feral atlas]

fat boy as normally built should be 5

[lament trail]

Oh, was only looking at base, close enough given platforms other benefits

[feral atlas]

as in, built by somebody that isn't an idiot

maybe, there is some universe where you take stun on row 4

that universe would also need to not have lures

[lament trail]

I've literally never used fat boy because I'd rather have ammo, so haven't paid attention to builds for it

Seen it used plenty though, unsurprisingly

[feral atlas]

It's mainly useful for sabotage and escort

rest of the time, it's a flexing weapon, as in you're good enough at the game to get away with anything

so you take the weapon for the spectacle

endothermic sorta fills the same role, but nuke is still better for most of the scenarios you take it for, mainly because you're supposed to thow a lure into the radiation

[lament trail]

Good enough or don't care, which is a lot of the random population who use it I'm sure

Platform meanwhile is usable for reasons mentioned above for actual use on missions where your aren't as confident

It doesn't have timed area denial like Fatboy does but it's generally more usable due to more ammo and the charging step being strong in it's own right (granularity is very useful), not to mention being attached to the sd

[feral atlas]

eh, the +ammo generalist build is usually better for that

generally speaking, losses are slow rolls, not single catastrophes

[lament trail]

I run+ammo on platform too, it's insanely strong even without the aoe damage up

[feral atlas]

team consistently shits the bed from the beginning, you take too long, you don't get to mine enough nitra, you get another wave, team shits the bed again

I mean the +ammo OC

[lament trail]

I've definitely found using the charge part to clear far more than the normal aoe built laser does

[feral atlas]

475 total ammo gives a lot of room for error

575 if you want to take ammo row 1

[lament trail]

Oh that's fair, but the platform charge kills way bigger areas for surprisingly cheap, so it definitely has enough sustain for the slow loss issue once you know how to use it properly

It's really the visual that's the biggest issue with it

I'd say it'll only maybe get fixed because it'd be a one off for a single oc

If they add a visual to the innate latser aoe it could be repurposed for the charge too, but I could see that not being made in the first place

[frosty delta]

What’s a good build for deep dive elite driller?

[lucid nest]

i would personally suggest no upgrades. over clocks and no perks

[rose wedge]

Ugh this week's EDD is ridiculous

[lucid nest]

ohhhh a good build my bad

[urban rose]

how hard are deep dives, generally? i only recently unlocked them and i've been apprehensive of trying 'em out

[latent raft]

not too bad. but you want to get in and out because the wave spawns are similar to point extractions

the hazzard on the deep dive is 3.5 /3.5 /4
and on the elite deep dive its 4.5 / 5 / 5.5

[midnight citrus]

haz 10 when

[jolly hazel]

haz .5 game journalist difficulty

[jolly hazel]

its 3/3.5/3.5

never gets to haz 4 bug speeds

[jolly hazel]

basically if you can handle haz 3 you can handle a dd

[odd comet]

^ Normal Deep Dives are pretty easy. Elite Dives, on the other hand

[pure berry]

I wanna promote driller before I do an elite deep dive just cause

I probably could do elite easy

Or at least

[jolly hazel]

whats ur highest promo?

[pure berry]

I wouldn't have too much trouble.

[odd comet]

You should at the very least be able to handle haz 4 without dying constantly before doing elite Dives, unless you manage to find a good team that can carry you

[ionic sigil]

fucking edd

[pure berry]

I regularly run haz 4

Almost always now

My highest promo is 1

Both scout and gunner

[jolly hazel]

haz 5 is a noticeable jump tbh but as long as you can kite you should be fine

ok well

overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

[pure berry]

Eh

[jolly hazel]

can always do them solo

[pure berry]

Not dying isn't that difficult if you prioritize your bugs correctly

[jolly hazel]

solo scout would be rough this year

*dive

[pure berry]

I usually remove anything that flies

[jolly hazel]

yeah its not difficult but bugs can actually catch you on haz 5 lol

[pure berry]

Mactera are just the worst for me

[jolly hazel]

yeah ranged are priority one

[pure berry]

And I regularly look at ceiling so

[jolly hazel]

always

[pure berry]

No leech

[jolly hazel]

id try one mission at haz 5 just so you know what's coming

[tropic echo]

does anyone have the problem with current edd, that there is not enough morkite?

[jolly hazel]

but its up to you

[jolly hazel]

check directly next to the drilerdozer midpoint stop, under the arch at the bottom of the pit

its in the armpit

if you treat the arch like an arm

[tropic echo]

there is, thank you very much

[jolly hazel]

np lol

[tropic echo]

been stuck hour here

[jolly hazel]

everyone is having problems

cuz its funny cave gen

[midnight citrus]

scout clutched 2 times on haz 5 refine

[pure berry]

I have lmao. It is rough I won't say it's not lmao

But as a scout I'm very aware

[jolly hazel]

thats good

nothing stopping you from trying

scout has the mobility to evade haz 5 enemies though

need some forethought when playing less mobile/no panic button classes

which is balanced by them having a larger impact on the game

[pure berry]

Grapple alone is great but I love running special powder for that extra "Oh Shit" factor

Still searching for Hoverclock

[vapid zephyr]

Same

[midnight citrus]

me when I'm building the pipeline and hear mission control announce a swarm on haz 5

run back to the refinery at max speed

[pure berry]

I find it funny how quickly a team call fall apart on Haz 4 when the gunner doesn't know what theyre doing

Just tryna do Point Extraction, and it legitimately feels like the gunner just isn't shooting anything

And he barely used his shields and when he did he would miss the mark with them or put them too far away to revive

I'll chalk it up to an accident but goodness gracious it was rough

Then we just so happen to have a Dreadnaught spawn alongside a swarm

All hell has broken loose

[full geyser]

in pod 15

desperately need help wioth the final 5 morkite of part 2

[oblique cosmos]

Just tried my first DD today

[full geyser]

need some help

[oblique cosmos]

I would love some but I live in the middle of nowhere so I can only play solo

[full geyser]

i need hekpo

[oblique cosmos]

The last stage is so hard and cramped

Plus haunted cave

[slow laurel]

https://i.imgur.com/RGYYHcj.jpeg

this pillar in refuelling room. go under it and look up

[full geyser]

good heavens

thanks

[abstract forum]

hey i have never played a deep dive before, because i am fairly new to the game. Do you guys have any idea where to find teammates to play with?

[jolly hazel]

#lfg-steam

easily doable with randoms

[abstract forum]

ok but i cant join someone, the screen is just grey

[vapid zephyr]

Grey means they started, wait around up to 5 minutes and you'll see a fresh one to join

[jolly hazel]

alternatively host your own lobby

[jade tusk]

Deep dives unlike other lobbies can't be join in mid session.

Though if this is your first Deep dive @abstract forum Here's a few general tips

• Always be efficient as possible. Faster you clear stages. The less ammo you spend killing bugs and the less health you could lose to said bugs.
• Your current health, Nitra, Ammo, and Gold all carry over between stages
• Attempt to conserve resupply drops when possible. Because some rotations of DD and EDD (Elite Deep Dives) may have low amounts of Nitra.
• "Leave no dwarf behind" is a suggestion not a order. Don't be afraid to leave dwarfs for dead and rush to the drop pod ASAP. All dwarfs will be revived on the next stage.
• Buff beers carry over to all 3 stages of a DD/EDD
• Look up. You never know what's above you
• Blue perk charges and Bosco revives (If solo with him enabled) are replenished at the start of each stage in a DD/EDD
• Look up or else you be giving a Cave leech a hearty meal in that cave

[hoary apex]

I tell my last edd lobby this "Hey so i've lost the last 5 attempts by people starting eggs or some shit with ready checks and since its lethal enemies if fucks us up and if someone grabs an egg without ready check im leaving" can someone guess what happened

[jade tusk]

They pop all the eggs at once and team wipe within 30 seconds?

[hoary apex]

I did what i said, someone grabbed egg and i leave

not worth trying to do that

[jade tusk]

If I'm driller. I'm already making a "I don't like where this is going" Bunker for myself

[hoary apex]

i was scout, so it was gonna be rough for me, they dont even clear the big room and engi started setting turrets up

like guys its about speed but being safe too

and lethal enemies hurt af

[jade tusk]

Taking the 30-45 seconds to prep a area before hitting a egg will do wonder

[wraith flame]

Ah the issue of the my life. Ppl don't respect the ready system and don't check where their teammates before obj.

[hoary apex]

It does, and people will grab eggs when they think its clear, like i wanna clear the room of stuff first especially in a EDD

i understand no ready checks in DD but EDD with lethal enemies and I call for it first before we even drop in

[jade tusk]

If I'm doing Haz 5. I always do ready check with eggs

And Haz 4 if the warnings are quite bad

[hoary apex]

haz 4 if everyone has promoted chars is usually good if you time things out far enough

[undone solstice]

ty, karl would be proud

[jade tusk]

The fastest way to wipe a team is to trigger a swarm while everyone has their pants down

Karl forbid one of the teammates is a tight tunnel or tiny room when that swarm trigger is hit

[hoary apex]

I tried the EDD solo as gunner, yea no the nemisis that spawned has too much hp to deal with solo

[jade tusk]

Depending on the gunner build. He can deal with a Nemy

[wraith flame]

Yeah you can do hellfire coil gun and a fire grenade will kill a nemmy

[jade tusk]

Ehhh. Hellfire isn't as effective on Nemy as it once was

[wraith flame]

If you combine it with the nade and it is close to the floor it will catch flame still

[hoary apex]

thats a good idea

i use revolver tho, i never play solo anyway

[jade tusk]

Driller is my Solo choice

[hoary apex]

fire driller?

[jade tusk]

Cyro driller. Fire if doing Rival presence

[hoary apex]

whats a good OC for the cryo weapn

i dont got any i think

[jade tusk]

I generally run Improved thermal with 2-2-2-3-2

If I'm doing Mactera swarm I swap out Thermal for snowball and run 2-1-2-3-2

If I run tuned cooler for dreadnaught missions the build become 3-2-1/2-3-2

[hoary apex]

and when i find a good squad for EDD, i lose connection to server

not sure what happened but that sucks

thanks for that imma keep it pinned so I have something to try when i attempt it

[pure berry]

Max Fire Rate Autocannon works just fine for me against nemesis on Haz 4

I very much enjoy just spraying as many shells into the metal monstrosity as possible

[jolly hazel]

not ammo efficient

[pure berry]

Fun

[jolly hazel]

t. max fire rate ac user

[pure berry]

Lmao

[jolly hazel]

true

[pure berry]

Very true though it chugs through ammo

[jolly hazel]

tuned cooler, snowball, or ice spear

[jolly hazel]

I just take carpet bomber so every shot does some kind of damage lol

id never shoot a nemesis with it though

[pure berry]

I only have a clean Overclock for ac atm

It's the one that increases ammo capacity and reload speed

[hoary apex]

i like the neurotoxin on gunner,

[pure berry]

I take clusters

Feels the most useful in a swarm

[hoary apex]

neurotoxin plus fear turns most away and kills them

super nice when everyones together

[pure berry]

True

Might give it a whirl

[hoary apex]

i love damage over time stuff

fire

[pure berry]

I run cryo greenade on scout purely for nado breeders

Grenade em. Bam dead

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
We are hearing rumors that some dwarves are still not done with this weeks Deep Dives!
We want to remind you that there's only half a week left until our scanners pick up new missions!
_ _

[jade tusk]

Scout is Cyro nades myself. Good for dealing with flying enemies, Deals with breeders instantly, One of scouts few ways of dealing hordes of swarmers, and freezing C4 happy drillers

[jolly hazel]

I used to be 100% cryo but then I saw how fast a bulk dies in a ifg lol

instant breeder kill is incredibly valuable though

[jolly hazel]

the other clean OC, splintering shells, is one of the better ones

I dont think autocannon has a bad OC

[pure berry]

Noted

[runic elm]

Just did the EDD. Saw at least 2 bulks every mission

[pure berry]

I didn't know IFG made enemies take more damage

Might consider running it on eliminations

[jade tusk]

Or Salvage operations during the hold outs.

Or Escort missions

[hoary cove]

it’s one of the best grenades in the game

it’s pretty much the best for anything on the ground

30% increased damage from all sources over a very long duration is insane for both hordes and big targets

[pure berry]

I'll never fear an oppressor or detonator again

[plush jetty]

edd stage 2 no morkite ;-;

missing 3

help

[hoary apex]

i kinda doubt that, its sunday people wouldve said something, its the same seed every week

check more

[plush jetty]

maybe we're blind

kk

aaand j found it

[hoary apex]

lol

gj

[plush jetty]

thank

[hoary apex]

@plush jetty did you have dark morkite or no?

my team telling me you need it to have enough

[nimble scarab]

theres enough morkite for the drilldozer

[rose wedge]

😩 ugh.. tfw attempting EDD but it's just a ridiculous amount of spawns.. oh yeah and then there's spit ballers and then brood nexuses

[plush jetty]

no dark morkite

last bit was hidden in corner

[hoary apex]

that was a hidden corner

[frozen obsidian]

^

[frozen obsidian]

you find it too?

[hoary apex]

its in the first big room hidden bheind a pillar

and the wall

idk, we had dark morkite but someone in my group said that the stuff behind the pillar is needed to complete it

[zinc current]

Yes

[stuck moth]

The nemesis shield in tunnel maps is the most cancerous thing in this game

[zealous pond]

four (4) bulk detonators on the second stage of the EDD

failed on the last stage of the drilldozer

absolute heartbreaker

[frozen obsidian]

we had 3

same for us lol

[zealous pond]

unless something is really crazy about stage 3 I think stage 2 is where most people are gonna fail this week

although stage 1 was hardly a walk in the park

[unkempt saffron]

I fell and died way too many times in this edd, so uh engis, dont neglect them scouts who need plats

[wild obsidian]

How many Matrix core i can get from deep dive in the week

[odd comet]

You get each reward only once per week. So one blank, one weapon overclock, and one cosmetic overclock from the Deep Dive, and a second set from the Elite Deep Dive.

[wild obsidian]

Whats the difference deep dive / Elite deep dive

[unkempt saffron]

Deep dive = easy, elite deep dive = hard

In simple terms

[cunning needle]

is elite one like difficulty level 5 mission

or more difficult ?

[unkempt saffron]

4.5>5>5.5

Roughly

[valid ginkgo]

Can you get cores after completing both dives? Or it's a one time reward thing?

[atomic prawn]

both

[valid ginkgo]

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. So I can get cores even after completing it?

[atomic prawn]

wat, you get cores for each stage of DD and EDD, once you get them, you don't get them again until next refresh

[valid ginkgo]

Yeah, what I meant by complete is that I've completed all of the stages on both DD and EDD. I was asking if I still get cores even if I do it again. The answer is clear now that I don't.

[glossy walrus]

🤔 that was the most amazingly useless yet technically correct in some way answer I've ever seen

deep dives reset weekly, after that you can get cores again. but only once per stage each week

[valid ginkgo]

It's a one time reward thing could've concluded the question appropriately but I got "both" as an answer and it was confusing to me.

[jade tusk]

Cores are one time rewards, but you do get a good chunk of xp and credits per run if the rotation has pretty easy set up for fast completion

[void vector]

Your question was confusing to begin with. You can get cores after completing the dives since there's the weekly core hunt. And it's not a "one time reward" since it resets weekly. So akchtually.. "both" is the correct answer as in "you can get cores after completing the deep dives by doing the weekly core hunt" and "it's a once per week per assignment/dive thing".

[valid ginkgo]

Yeah, mb. Thought it wasn't since I didn't mention weekly assignments. Just the deep dives.

[old gale]

uhhh

so im on the second stage of edd and like morkite didnt spawn

we're at 147/150

[void vector]

leaning pillar in refueling room, walk under it and look up

[old gale]

thank you

[sleek light]

Is there actually some Morkite hidden in that second mission of the elite deep dive?

[old widget]

Yes, scroll up

[queen patrol]

somebody should start counting how many people ask about stage 2 morkite

[unreal spire]

we cannt find last 3 morkite after 50 min fun game

[lament linden]

Is it just me or does overdrive booster feel bad

[steep cloud]

ok ok where is the last thing of Mork

[slow laurel]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/w2c28wd-kiR0BKmiKSKv3GBVgCJHSXNVaHx7REnEzmA/https/i.imgur.com/RGYYHcj.jpg?width=980&height=561

under pillar

[steep cloud]

we got it thx

not sure if Scout turned that up or just was really efficient with trhe rest, but he found an extra 3 in his pocket somewhere

[static ridge]

hahahaha was with randoms same thing happened to us

never thought id make it trough an edd so violent in 2 tries

[devout jetty]

A little late but

This week’s DD felt like a EDD DX

But at least it’s still DD hazard 😛

[river pawn]

we've already had 6 bulks in 2 stages

[jade tusk]

I swear Stage 2 must be on some Bulk det breeding ground

[jolly hazel]

its the seeded swarm size modifier rolling high

it has a high enough number where it can keep rolling bulks

[jade tusk]

At least stage 2 isn't a elite modifier

Imagine fighting 2 elite bulks at once. Even more

[untold apex]

there enough morkite this deep dive

elite deep dive

[wraith shard]

yes

[tawny cedar]

I'm confused as how matrix cores work on dds, do you only get them on the first one you do in a set week or do you get them for every one?

[hoary apex]

blank cores 1st mission, weapon OC 2nd, cosmetic third.

for each DD

[tawny cedar]

Ah aight cheers

[split marlin]

you get the rewards from the three stages once per week, doing the DD again doesn't net you anything except the gold and exp

[austere arch]

Any tips for solo elite deep dive? I did last week's solo elite deep dive, but I'm struggling on the current one.

The first mission with salvage operation (standing in the uplink zone) is pretty hard for me.

[zinc socket]

I got to stage 3, solo, on the dd...

and my first thought was, "as long as there isn't a hive guard, I'll be okay" ... the very first one, hiveguard

and yes, it went exactly like I thought it would

got all the morkite

didn't even get the hiveguard to halfway

[wraith shard]

As Gunner?

What are you running? I thought it was surprisingly tame, but also didn't roll any bulks or nemesis during stage 1

[midnight citrus]

if you have aggressive venting it should be easier...

[austere arch]

Tried with gunner and scout.

I can handle the hordes, but not if I have to stand in the uplink zone.

Also, I use splintering shells overclock on thunderhead for AoE.

[jade tusk]

You have Driller which you make a bunker underneath the uplink without bringing the uplink down in it and do the hold out session that way if you're want to take a rather...cheesy route

[austere arch]

Clever idea, I thought that tactic only worked well with driller + engineer.

[jade tusk]

You can do a under bunker without bringing the uplink or the fuel station into the bunker with you

[austere arch]

I understand what you mean.

[jade tusk]

Drilling in the name of (If that's the youtube's name) has a pretty good tutorial on how to do it

[austere arch]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[jade tusk]

Driller is the best solo dwarf class imo. So many tools to control the situation.

[vale nebula]

I just completed my first deep dive with one other player, it was pretty cool but I got destroyed on the elites because I have no overclocks and I'm not great at the game. Had a blast anyways

[wraith shard]

ECR Engy with breach cutter i solo'd EDD because my teams failed too many times. Slow setup turrets are a must.

[austere arch]

Interesting.

[tiny frost]

how'd yall deal with the lethal enemies of this week's edd?

[summer forge]

i guess bunkering up on first stage works?

[junior fossil]

NtP

[summer forge]

cause its minimules

[jade tusk]

That was my choice. NTP gunner. Enemies can't hurt you if you reduce their speed

And watch a 20 grunts die one by one by poison damag

[junior fossil]

enemies cant hurt you if they ran away

[jade tusk]

That too

And by the time they come around to chase you again

"You're already dead"

Which fun NTP fact to gunners that don't know. Once you poison a grunt. It's already dead no matter regardless of their remaining HP and the Haz level. Poison grunt = dead grunt

[waxen surge]

Did my first EDD and failed twice with two different groups at the Ommoran on mission 2

[sage axle]

whats in this weeks EDD

[jade tusk]

[waxen surge]

Yeah, idk

I was using NTP gunner and everything went fine until wave 3 of the ommoran

then people start dying left and right

[junior fossil]

bulk det spawned?

[waxen surge]

also on the second one we got a bulk spawn

yes

the second group got a bulk spawn on wave 3

with the first one it was on wave 1

[junior fossil]

I done it solo, and had a bulk on the way and a bulk during wave 3

this weeks edd is the bulks breeding ground or something

[waxen surge]

I got 4 bulks with the second group

1 while refueling, 2 while moving doretta

and one during the ommoran event

[uncut heart]

sure wish the bug where dreads go invincible wasnt a thing ive failed 5 elite runs because of that and THAT ONLY

[lethal spear]

i hope gsg takes a look at room generation, the crystals on DD were a pain in places

[wraith shard]

I did EDD so many times i lucked out and saw a mirrored room. Same but mirrored.

[torpid beacon]

what’s the EDD?

[azure quail]

man fuck this weeks EDD

2 bulks second stage

[digital chasm]

and a nemesis on the third stage

[somber hatch]

the biggest pain of the EDD: being 3 morkite low for 20 minutes

[digital chasm]

theres some morkite in the refueling room behind the pillar

[jade tusk]

Dark Morkite is a recommend drink 9/10 dwarfs agree

[somber hatch]

i know

[jade tusk]

Kept me sane during that EDD run

[tiny frost]

i fucking hate this week's edd

[azure quail]

funny bulks in escort

cryo driller is mandatory

because fuck you

[median drum]

How long til they fix this Morkite issue, then?

This is the second time in less than a month, isn't it?

Both times were on stage 2, so there's no warning it might pop up as a secondary and be bugged

[old widget]

There’s nothing to fix this week? The morkite is there. The one a few weeks ago was definitely a bug though and the devs ack’d that

(BTW scroll up if you are struggling to find the last bits of morkite, several tips on where to look)

[median drum]

Guessing you're referring to this?
*attempts to post screenshot but can't, ok, cool, I guess

Yeah, no, it's there. Just fully behind a pillar invisible to anyone but a lucky or thorough Scout

[lethal sphinx]

lol we just saw tha texact morkite patch after like 10 minutes of looking

[echo storm]

this was definitely an edd

also yeah if you get the morkite behind the pillar you have more than enough

[grizzled escarp]

stuck on this week's second mission because morkite

looking for tips?

i'm scrolling up and cant find much

alright

got it

found out

tysm chat

[versed skiff]

hey im new to Deep dives. I just completed one and didnt get anything after it was over?

[grizzled escarp]

It gives you cores as you go along, typically

[silver lotus]

I'm sure it's been posted already, but good lord morkite in phase 2

[graceful vessel]

Just had my first deep dive ended by combination haunted mine and elimination. Why does haunted mine exist?

[silver lotus]

turned a maybe 50 minute deep dive into a 1 hour 30 minute

[graceful vessel]

Oh yeah the morkite as well.

[silver lotus]

EDD sorry

should clarify

[graceful vessel]

Ah. Well stage 3 of the DD had elimination and morkite with haunted mine.

[zinc condor]

do you guys think the dlcs are worth it?

[graceful vessel]

I've gotten a lot of use out of the ones I've bought.

[zinc condor]

i'm still deciding on if i should buy the game or not

[graceful vessel]

Probably the wrong channel for talk about dlc though.

[zinc condor]

bruh alr

[queen patrol]

all cosmetic so just depends on how much you wanna support the lovely developers

[grizzled escarp]

lost the elite deep dive because the nemesis triggered the egg

[queen patrol]

same here pal

[turbid swift]

last mission of the deep dive
haunted cave on a dreadnought hunt
mfw we had 2 close calls only saved via iron wills
sacrifice myself by playing kite with the invincible bulk det ghost
they complete the mission
200m drop pod with no clear route alone
ready to sacrifice myself to guarantee the win
razormind starts playing from my playlist
turbo dicks through the cave in a pitch black mad dash making it by the hair of my beard

[pure path]

i loooove bulks spawning on my drilldozer

mmmm yes

[turbid kite]

alright i give up. ive scrolled up and down discord to get the morikite on the drilldozer. ive cleansed every part and im 149. im done.

ghost ship. spawn more morikite in. im sad i wasted my time with deep dives that your not allowed to complete

[uneven mountain]

#drg-gallery message
#deep-dive-discussion message
https://imgur.com/a/PHei5I0

[turbid swift]

Pick issue?

[turbid kite]

got that one.

idk. i had 3 detinators spawn and i think they took out some morikite locations. either way ive already gave up and im not interested in continuing this bullshit

[zealous pond]

managed to win in spite of this

several heart attacks were had

[turbid swift]

Remember folks medic and iron will make shitty situations manageable*

*1 time

[zealous pond]

if you're not running IW I don't know how you deal with EDDs

or even haz 5 missions sometimes

[turbid swift]

Aside from my driller those are must have perks along with friendly

[zealous pond]

I can't do without hoverboots

IW and hoverboots on all classes for me

[turbid swift]

Fair fair

I like being a team player

So medic is always on

Driller I usually go melee build so zerker and vamp

[zealous pond]

if I'm gunner I don't need medic; if I'm scout I freeze grenade, if I'm driller or engineer I just do my best to clear

thorns/vampire/deep pockets on all classes otherwise

I'm a consistent man

vampire is a must with IW if you're not counting on always being near a resupply or red sugar

[grim portal]

why do they keep doing deep dives where you need to min-max morkite on a doretta mission?

[zealous granite]

Because ommoran cavegen go brrr

[grim portal]

that and we got fucked by a detonator blowing some up

[atomic prawn]

nah, just res someone and then they res you lol

[void vector]

"They" don't keep "doing" it, it's a inherent part of deep dive escort & mining expedition combination because the escort is just one fueling stop so limited number of rooms, and ommoran takes a big chunk out of the last room. Increasing the amount of morkite would at some point make it facile, it's really just RNG that has given us two unfortunate situations this close to eachother.

[grim portal]

That's fair. I'm sure there's some code or addition that could get added in to guarantee the gen not messing things up. we had tons of extra nitra, but 3 morkite short.

[void vector]

This week we had roughly 20% extra morkite, just happened that one vein was somewhat hidden.

AND it happened to be the biggest vein as I recall.

I had roughly 30 extra morkite.

[grim portal]

oh so this time googling it could have saved our run .... 🥲

[void vector]

... or looking at any media connected to DRG at all.. it's been discussed here, on the forums, on Reddit... takes 2 seconds to hit the forums and just scroll the front page.

[grim portal]

yeah, that. I was already frustrated with the run and just wanted out 🥲

[void vector]

Last time around the only mention I saw about it was "there's only just enough morkite"... so I went into the mission knowing I had to mine every single little scrap, and did it first time around. This time I saw buncha talk and mention of a pillar, that's all the info I had to go on, and got the morkite first time around as well. Literally seconds with just single word info is enough for me to extrapolate from.

[pure path]

speaking from a rock and stoner with average iq i must say the edd did confuse me with the morkite, but through the use of discord i did it

[grim portal]

Ive only gotten back into edd's, and its rough having both of these runs so close, i just was jaded and pessimistic which isn't normal. I usually like to go in blind and just figure it out

[snow oyster]

You guys just saved my solo edd run, i was about to give up on the second stage.

[queen patrol]

i didnt know tiphereth plays drg

[neat charm]

from the hit game corporate lobotomy???

[queen patrol]

(real)

[snow oyster]

Every now and then the abnormalities decide to calm down for 20 minutes and you can have one drg match :p

[wanton iris]

Is it me or is the first map of the regular deep dive horrible?

Also, any tips in general? I was drowning in bugs when trying it solo

[junior fossil]

It really depends on the class you pick each class has a way to deal with bugs, but rule of thumb is finding what you enjoy to use

[wraith flame]

Watch the ceiling, don't leave pod until it is safe, learn to kite everything and you will be better, always consider your position and how you would survive there.

[wanton iris]

I was playing engineer, tried scout and that felt impossible

Specially with the black box being in an enclosed area full of crystals I'd get overwhelmed quick

[jade tusk]

Depends on if you have a driller that knows how to use their drills

[wanton iris]

I didn't have a driller.

[jade tusk]

Yeah...Then stage 1 is gonna be hell

[wanton iris]

I was running solo scout first try and solo engineer second try

[wraith flame]

Scout has bad crowd control typically so dealing with hordes are harder then the other however scout is really good for solo runs as the mobility is unmatched.

[wanton iris]

And my driller is unpromoted level 2

[jade tusk]

The blackbox is among a giant cluster of white crystals which heavily restricts both the amount of area you have to work with and kills your line of sight

[wraith flame]

Also crystals is always an annoying terrain, have to clear them out or you can easily be trapped

[echo storm]

what do u run for your scout

[jade tusk]

Means bugs can get much much closer to you

[wraith flame]

Me?

[echo storm]

oh i meant arion

oops !

[wanton iris]

One sec, let me get the builds

GK2 and Boomstick

Cryo grenades, max range grappling hook

[junior fossil]

I would say that engie can be good once you learn to use proxy mines and set up the turrets to alert you when something is close

[wraith flame]

Engi is, imo, the strongest class in the game. So yeah he is very good.

[jade tusk]

I put Engie around number 2 strongest if we're assuming properly set up

[wanton iris]

GK2 is 12313, Boomstick is 21312

[echo storm]

any ocs or no

[wanton iris]

No OCs yet

[echo storm]

yeah its looking like engi time with pubs for this one

[wanton iris]

For engineer, I was running warthog 23221, PGL 12221, Sentry 1111

[jade tusk]

Engie I run warthog with Cycle overload with 2-3-3-2-1, Fat boy PGL with 2-1-3-2-2. Sentry is 2-2-1-1

[wanton iris]

I think I'll wait for the next one or join a pub

[jade tusk]

And give driller some love. Don't leave him behind on the levels

[wanton iris]

I'm working on promoting all classes one by one so I can learn them

Scout was first, engineer second, gunner is up now and driller is last

[jade tusk]

Scout ends up being the last class for me to Promo most of the time.

Or everyone else is 2 promo ahead and I realize scout is getting left behind

[wanton iris]

I started with scout and damn that forced me to learn quick

Because scout, uh, is pretty bad at dealing with swarms

[jade tusk]

The crossbow with the Pheromone arrow does help scout a bit with swarms. So that's a plus in his book

Scout has very little good swarmer clear

Where as Driller. I can usually ignore them as most of time they freeze to death with Cold aura with the cyro gun

[void vector]

Plasma Carbine with impact deflection and aoe is my go to.

[trail depot]

awful luck this edd

[junior fossil]

Bulkdets?

[trail depot]

just in general

cant get a good team going, got disconnected 1-2 times

just awful

[jade tusk]

Stage 2 is brutal if you're not expecting it or plan poorly around it

[trail depot]

1st is too

randos just arent prepared for it

so i end up wasting time

[junior fossil]

So why not solo it?

[trail depot]

please

[jade tusk]

I got lucky with a good enough group and beaten it first try. Played gunner with NTP which helps a ton for stage 1 and stage 2

[junior fossil]

I solo it because I need to pause a fair number of times

[jade tusk]

I pub it. You get the most fun if you get those set ups where you just at the brink of falling apart, but still held through the entire EDD session

[jolly hazel]

you can pause solo?

[midnight citrus]

pause multiplayer

[jade tusk]

To pause a Multiplayer game. Insert C4 here

[lime dirge]

Pairing elimination and haunted caves should be considered an offense

[jade tusk]

Best advice? Whoever becomes the target for the Bulk stay in the spawn room to kite the ghost bulk around while the other 3 fight the dreads

And on the off chance the bulk swaps dwarfs. The new dwarf does the kite dance

[lime dirge]

yup

[jade tusk]

It's very fucking boring for the 1 dwarf

But if you want to have a generally safe stage 3. That's my advice for that

[lime dirge]

Just

r u n n i n g

a lot of it

[jade tusk]

Drilling for driller. Gunner depending on the starting room (Forgot what it look like) could just zipline kite it, Scout can grapple around

Engie....Will be playing platforming with platform

[lime dirge]

There is a high ceiling near the 2nd dread egg

you can grapple up and down as scout

[jade tusk]

Though. Things become very awkward if one of the dreads aggros on the lone dwarf

[lime dirge]

yep

but, you still have a get out of bug jail free card as scout so it isn't that bad. Rip other classes tho lol

[jade tusk]

Careful mate. Your talking a lot of shit for someone in C4 range

[drifting anvil]

Somebody who knows what to do when you missing 3 morkite and can't find it after searching for 45 min

[junior fossil]

is it in the EDD part2? if so look for the pillar in the reful room

[midnight citrus]

it's in the refuel room

[drifting anvil]

its exactly that

[junior fossil]

look at it from below

it right were it connects to the wall

[drifting anvil]

okay it can"t be despawned because it was mined by the drill?

[lime dirge]

Only play EDDs when dark morkite is in rotation. Believe me, you'll have a much more pleasant time

[drifting anvil]

okay thanks for the help

[void vector]

No, or it would've done that for absolutely everyone and nobody would'be been able to complete it. Go to the refueling room before the ommoran, walk to the big leaning sand pillar, and look at where it connects to the wall above.

[abstract crystal]

This DD was a tougher one

Stage 2 verticality was rough

And ghost bug with dreadnought is just a bad choice

[sand mirage]

That last stage on the normal deep dive was horrific

I got it done eventually but went down twice

[lyric bridge]

Friends were away so I thought I’d host an EDD for pubbies

That was a mistake

Scout went down 15 times in mission one, started griefing at the start of 2 so he got the boot, then driller just kind of left halfway through the dozer bit leaving me to solo the end of 2 and all of 3

Probably best case scenario in the end but I was really hoping to earn some Sherpa cred

[thorn lion]

noob question: can i claim rewards for both deep dive and deep dive elite once a week or only for one of them?

[unkempt saffron]

DDs and EDDs are treated separately, so rewards from both are separate as well

[thorn lion]

got it, thanks! 😄

[lusty shuttle]

What day do they reset?

[plush forge]

Thursdays ~8am (EST) if you're in NA Region

all weeklies reset at that time

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[echo storm]

yeah it took about 32 minutes

[turbid swift]

Sadge

We crushed that edd only for the stage 3 nought to bug out

Forcing an abort

[brisk pagoda]

driller with ice is the best option for long term solo tanking. instead of spending 10 minutes running away from an ever increasing swarm of slashers, theyre angy walking healthpacks.

[fierce pecan]

how long until the dives reset?

[lethal spear]

1 day and 6 hours from now

[polar trench]

anyone else get soft locked on the elite stage 2

twice ive gotten like 147 and 148 morkite

[tiny plume]

^

[glossy walrus]

someone really should've pinned the screenshot of the location of the hidden morkite vein on day2 or something

[pine epoch]

In the big room, there's some armpit morkite under one of the arches going into a wall

[polar trench]

aye

we found it, thanks

[fringe panther]

evil morkite location

[thin wave]

armpit morkite

[frosty delta]

What’s the rewards for the elite dd

[whole mulch]

3 cores. first blank. second weapon oc, 3rd cosmetic. same for regular dd.

[frosty delta]

What’s the weapon

[whole mulch]

random based on what you have or dont have

[frosty delta]

Oh ok I thought It was a set one

[odd plank]

oc stands for overclock

[whole mulch]

the set ones are cosmetic

[frosty delta]

Ok thank you 😊

[whole mulch]

You’re welcome! Rock n stone, miner and good luck

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is now booting up, 24 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[austere arch]

5 cave leeches got me in solo elite deep dive.

Thanks bosco for nothing.

[plush forge]

This post, brought to you by Heightened Senses!

[spare wren]

I've done the first two stages of the EDD, still missing the last one

[calm jetty]

Fuck I was so sure today was Tuesday x_x

[queen patrol]

finally people can stop asking about the stage 2 morkite 🙏

[jade tusk]

In before we get stage 1 with a really crappy Morkite spot!

And the cave gen screws over a morkite patch so there's actually 200 or 150 Morkite to complete the stage

[void vector]

Wishful thinking 😛

[cunning pecan]

hello all looking for old people like myself running deep dive elite runs. would love to find a group to game with. steam friend code is 1069274247

[random rampart]

steam?

[cunning pecan]

yes sir

[random rampart]

then try both #steam-profile-sharing and #lfg-steam

this channel isnt really used to share group requests, those usually are

[cunning pecan]

roger that

[random rampart]

||(finally, a #steam-profile-sharing message that doesnt look like a shopping list)||

[lethal stratus]

New deep dive in 24h correct?

[void vector]

In about 22h I think, yeah

[lethal stratus]

Ight, thanks

[fluid tide]

Fellow scouts, how do you deal with a massive horde that killed your entire squad except you, how do you somehow take out an entire cave filled to the brim with an assortment of bugs that takes an entire resupply drop to kill

[jade tusk]

Allow to answer your question with a question myself.

Is there a Bulk det among that horde of bugs?

If there is a bulk. You can deal with that horde and spend very little amount of ammo on it

Carefully grappling through the Bulk's stomp range so you make it stomp and kill or damage any bugs in his range. Repeat til you thin the horde out and proceed to revive dwarfs either closest to you or by Priority Gunner>Driller>Engie

If there isn't a bulk. Kite the enemies around until you can find a good enough opening to revive the gunner (assuming he has shield charges left) and hope the gunner can rez the rest of the team with his shield charges or attempts to fight the horde of bugs with you

[queen patrol]

kite for 2 years until they all die

[fluid tide]

yeah... i just realized that in terms of the survival department the scout is pretty much a cockroach as long as the grapple is used properly but dang does it lack in the firepower department

[void vector]

Pheromone bolts + cryo grenades + Plasma Carbine with impact deflection and AoE. Clear swarmers and grunts with carbine, cryo nade praetorians and guards (and mactera), pheromone bolt oppressors (praetorians are also a good target).

And regular crossbow bolts for sniping mactera and acid/webspitters.

Even just a few cryo nades will let you rez people if you've taken out acid spitters and macteras first.

[fluid tide]

ohh great advise, ive been running all pheremones, which now that i think about it is pretty stupid, though satisfying watching a large swarm disappear

[echo storm]

I run drak 25 is opa and nuk 15s with cryo minelets and cryo nades

scout becomes more of a short to mid range guy but now does nice damage

i use this load out for edds and it does just fine

[turbid swift]

Inb4 we get rival presence on a 3 egg boss hunt

[atomic prawn]

Ayyy deep dive with 4x spawns, and triggered both eggs at the same time.

Most blursed game ever with modded dreads

[jade tusk]

Confused driller noises

Run Cyro. You can make the dread fights a lot safer and be a big support role for them, but you become useless the moment the robots walk in.

Run Fire. Robots become a minor threat to your team, but you become less effective against dreads due to them not being able to be fit on fire

Sludge makes you neutral to both of them

[queen patrol]

microwave would also be worthless against both

[atomic prawn]

Run ice storm and be good for both lol

[jade tusk]

But I lose the ability to freeze the dread which is the point of Cyro.

Well outside of making a round about mod build to counter the down side of ice storm

[atomic prawn]

You still have the ability to freeze the dread lol

[latent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-los-angeles-lakers-look-up-what-is-that-nba-gif-16045196

bosco lighting up the leech

[atomic prawn]

Just run radiant and the t1 mod that lets you shoot longer.

[latent basin]

but doing absolutely nothing about it

[jade tusk]

Gonna take a long ass time to freeze it and do you really want to hug the classic dreadnaught and pray to karl it never does the "Fuck off" stomp attack during the time period you're attempting to freeze it

[atomic prawn]

Nah it works fine

Just learn to judge your distance

Been using it since s2 dropped with 0 issues

Radiant OP 😂

[jade tusk]

I still don't want to be near a classic dread and risk the stomp

Unless I'm host

[atomic prawn]

It's fine 😂 heck I even run with the modded og dread which I think has faster stomps

Oh wait, it's bigger slam radius

[lethal stratus]

Whats stage 3 of this weeks edd like?

[wraith flame]

This week or this coming week?

[lethal stratus]

This week

[wraith flame]

Pretty wild. You got a nemesis, some big swarms and I had a detonator mid boss fight.

[lethal stratus]

Got damn

[wraith flame]

Yeah it was fun though. To just see the walls covered in bugs and living through it is always a thrill.

[lethal stratus]

Any modifiers or nah

[junior fossil]

no modifiers just nemesis

[dusty lava]

Br?

[lyric bridge]

honestly quite nice, short and sweet after the dozer mission

would recommend clearing the cave and fighting the twins at the room at the end of the cave instead of the midway room since it's a little tight

no modifiers that i recall

[lethal stratus]

Alright

[woeful thicket]

Guys please help where is morkite...

[somber hatch]

Ine of the last rooms

[woeful thicket]

nwm found it..

[somber hatch]

Behind a sand pillar

[queen patrol]

i hope the next refresh gives me literally any coilgun oc

[jade tusk]

Next refresh. EDD but with the Nitra starved modifier for 3 stages

[lyric bridge]

I think I've finally gotten every single weapon OC on PS

won't know until next week though

I must be missing one or two of the new season stuff come to think of it 🤔

[jade tusk]

Only thing I'm missing is lots and lots of Cosmetic overclocks and cargo crates

[lyric bridge]

I didn't do the first weeks EDD and i'll always regret it

short by 3 OC's for life

[jade tusk]

I didn't do EDD until I was okay enough in Haz 5 to the point I wasn't gonna be a hinderance to my team

[void vector]

You can check the statistics page in your cabin, 'weapon overclocks forged', 148 is the current max.

[lyric bridge]

Well that’s the thing, I haven’t forged em cuz I’m broke as hell

So I can only tell by using the blank cores

[lethal stratus]

EDD moment

Ill try next weeks I guess

[jade tusk]

Place your bets for the next rotation of EDD/DD here ⏬

Winner gets to know the location of Karl

[midnight citrus]

please do not be hollow bough

[echo storm]

hollow bough edd

[forest shell]

With these devs? Yes way!

cruising on down hoxxes, you're drunk and feeling good, next thing that you know you see a detonator in the neighboorhood!

[midnight citrus]

a bulk detonator swarm

[lyric bridge]

Hollow bough EDD and every mission has one 150 morkite objective, and every level has exactly 152 morkite

[midnight citrus]

if hollow bough edd I will uninstall game not play this week's deep dives

[junior fossil]

Magma core, alteast 1 no shield and 1 explosive

[queen patrol]

blackbox refinery hollow bough with shield disruption

[midnight citrus]

there will be mactera plague somewhere

[lyric bridge]

Game glitches out and gives you 3 warnings, shield disrupt, swarmaggedon and lethal enemies

[wraith flame]

@lethal stratus you wanna do the EDD with me tonight? I wouldn't mind helping you out

[lethal stratus]

Sure

[wraith flame]

Sweet, I'll be on in about 15-20 min so if your around I'll dm u

[final plover]

2nd stage on EDD was annoying with that hidden stash of morkite. so much time and nitra wasted on searching for it.

[midnight citrus]

read this chat more often

[jade tusk]

Or drink a nice cold cup of dark morkite when it's on tap

[final plover]

still made it first try tho, just a minor thing really.

[jade tusk]

It has stomped plenty of dwarfs

[orchid reef]

anyone know if you can do anything with excess perk points?

[odd plank]

Nothing

Once you got all the perks, they sit there unused

[orchid reef]

lmao oh. I just hit triple digits

[odd plank]

ye, I'm at about 150

1 milestone left to complete

just gotta do 2 more industrial sabotage

[north urchin]

is there new deep dives?

[rose idol]

Tomorrow I believe

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
Planet scanning is still in progress, 12 hours left until new Deep Dives!
_ _

[lime dirge]

Alr what chances are that the next EDD will be hollow bough with refinery and box with no O2 or shield disrupt

[wraith elk]

guys

where the fuck is mprkite on edd mission 2

This ain't alright

[lime dirge]

there is a hidden vein

[wraith elk]

where is it?

If you can dm me the exact location

I'll be so glad

[jade tusk]

It's in the refueling room between a wall and a sand pillar

[lime dirge]

here

[wraith elk]

thanks!!!

FOUND IT

THANKS

[lime dirge]

Gotchu fam

[wraith elk]

[azure quail]

hollow bough with exploder/swarmer infestation and shield disruption

[fair venture]

lol the game should have a block so the jajas retards cant just kick you out after finish the last objective of the last part of the Elite Deep Dive

[shadow patio]

Just did the DD solo (the DD not the EDD). Hardest DD I have ever done. Part 3 solo is a nightmare as the dread and the horror group up and you end up fighting your way down the tunnels. Epic challenge solo... but hard.

[frosty delta]

Who’s exited for the new DD’s!

[turbid swift]

Im just hoping it doesnt bug out on the last mission for me

Killed one of the twins too fast and bugged em out on the last mission of the edd

Had to abort

[south shard]

i think you all are forgetting the edd can have rival presence

[turbid swift]

Ok but consider: rival sabotage with a nought secondary

Lets throw a nem in there for good measure

[lyric bridge]

Rival presence ain’t shit tbqh

Yea it’s a problem if you bring your one size fits all build, but if you’re concerned just bring pyro shit and hard counter it

[tiny frost]

rival presence is ezpz. I agree lol

[unkempt saffron]

Just dreel to controller ezpzlmnsqzy

[fluid tide]

what grenade is the best for deep dives as a scout

[indigo moth]

Cryo probably

[fluid tide]

just zippity all over the place and just more worried about making sure my team doesnt run out of nitra/ die

Drg is a horror game in solo...

No game has made me more scared than drg

[halcyon sand]

I did my first ever deep dive today 😄 Only to have the Hiveguard glitch out on a last sliver of health and not spawn sentinels. Luckily someone in the group figured out it had to down one of us for it to reset. (which funny enough was me as gunner) Was really interesting and fun having all 4 "bosses" out on the field at the same time. 😂

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives will be available in one hour!
_ _

[jade tusk]

What sort of pain and suffering awaits us when the scanners get done scanning

[round mountain]

Cant wait for another hidden morkite vein in some weird pocket that no one will find

[thorny gull]

Dreadnaught Hiveguard + Dreadnaught Twins (Glyphid Detonators swarm)

[jade tusk]

And that weird pocket will require a combination of a scout and almost the entire Engie plat reserve to get for 2 whole Morkite

[pine epoch]

Petition for all deep dives to have armpit morkite from now on

[jade tusk]

Good bye all other beef beers

Hello Dark Morkite

[random rampart]

Petition to have swarmageddon + low O2 escort with armpit morkite

ON REGULAR DD AND EDD

[manic pivot]

_ _
ATTENTION MINERS!
New Deep Dives are now available!
_ _

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone.

[round mountain]

Its deep dive time

[jade tusk]

Now for the most important step

[supple crest]

EDD Liquid morkite dread rival presence volatile guts

[jade tusk]

Sit back and wait for the scouting report

Whoever predicted Dread with Rival presence. You need to stop drinking smart stout

and confused driller noises

[supple crest]

thre is cave leeches

[void vector]

At least it's sandblasted corridors

[sly kettle]

@quiet mortar You gonna do the weekly thing?

[void vector]

Normal Deep Dive Stage 1: Hollow Bough, 2 Dreads, Black Box, Mactera Plague

[quiet mortar]

Forgot it was Thursday gonna be honest

[jade tusk]

Uggg Hollow. At least its the DD so not that bad, but still hollow

[random rampart]

You forgor 💀

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Natural Leverage
Stage 1: 2 Dreadnoughts (Classic + Hiveguard) + 📡 1 Black Box | Mactera Plague
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Regenerative Bugs

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Tainted Fort
Stage 1: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Volatile Guts Rival Presence
Stage 2: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + Dreadnought Twins | Exploder Infestation

[analog brook]

what are the dreads tho?

[junior fossil]

twins

[jade tusk]

Not bad

[analog brook]

on the edd?

[junior fossil]

they are not bad but dont be like me and forget about the nemsis first

[analog brook]

oooo, i get to test the new nemesis strats i learned >:)

[oblique glen]

dd dreadnaughts are classic and hiveguard

[jade tusk]

Sacrifice the scout and everyone else shoot at it?

[analog brook]

nah lmao, im soloing on driller, sticky flames

[jade tusk]

How is the Stage 1 EDD map. Is all the morkite veins in sane places that a driller isn't as important as he is normally?

[supple crest]

yes

[junior fossil]

very flat lots of sniper turrets to deal with first

[hollow citrus]

sandblasted edd again hmm. hollow bough dd, ooh

[oblique glen]

dd2 4 eggs 150 morkite

[supple crest]

edd 2 salvage 3 mules collect 2 eggs lethal enemies

[jade tusk]

Lethal is pretty scary. Almost looks to me being Gunner for this EDD rotation

[safe gulch]

Rival presence, hooooo boy

Luck be a lady tonight

It's either smooth sailing or more nemesis nonsense

[pure sandal]

deep dive stage 2
collect 4 alien eggs
collect 150 morkite
no mutators

[quiet mortar]

Any mutators?

[oblique glen]

no

[oblique glen]

^

[safe gulch]

(which, strangely enough, forgive me for griping, some people still do not know how to deal with)

[oblique glen]

on that note, dd3 is drilldozer, 2 eggs and regen bugs

[supple crest]

there is cave leeches in second stage too edd

[sly kettle]

That EDD tho

Looks like hell

lol

[round mountain]

Got bulk on second stage solo

while standing in uplink

rip

[pure sandal]

deep dive stage 3
drilldozer
collect 2 alien eggs
regenerative bugs modifier

[pure sandal]

betc somewhere in cave

[supple crest]

yes

edd 3 liquid morkite dread exploder infestation

[jade tusk]

Stage 1 of EDD. The Refinery set up is very nice. Driller isn't needed. You drop right next to a turret cluster with controller to your left the moment you walk out of the pod

Refinery drops right in front of the pod

[supple crest]

you might want driller for edd stage 3

[lime dirge]

Oh thank you

[supple crest]

its not imposibble but will make your life easier

[sick lake]

Hollow bough is usually my least favorite biome. Hows the map gen on this one?

Also. Any random nems or can I run something besides fire damage?

[lime dirge]

But exploder infestation god damnit

[unborn viper]

2 nem on first edd

[lime dirge]

Try breach cutter, it just deletes its armor

then you just shoot it

[sick lake]

Yeah breach cutter with inferno is my usually if i get nems. But i like packing hyper propellant for dreads

[lime dirge]

yeah propellant is also nice

[jade tusk]

2nd stage of EDD. You spawn with a Mini mule in the spawn room already. Drop Pod is a decent set up. Make sure you destroy the rock pillars around it

To clear up space and line of sight

[sick lake]

Do engie's lures draw aggro from the dreads? Will switch to the burster if no

[runic bane]

No. They don't get tricked by that.

[junior fossil]

on the 2nd stage there is one mule that is very odd

[fleet yarrow]

hey what the frick, I got last week's deep dive for some reason

it's frozen crater

I can't send pictures in this channel oh lord

anybody else having the same problem?

[jade tusk]

Try restarting your game

That might fix your hiccup

Wiped on Stage 2. Bah

Gotten a bulk on Stage 2. Could be unlucky bulk or not. Who knows.

[junior fossil]

the egg in the 3rd stage edd is so high up

[jade tusk]

Noted. Gonna take some crafty drilling or epic team work from the scout and Engie

Or a couple nukes

[fleet yarrow]

it worked, thanks

[jovial turret]

bleh, drilldozer ending

that means hoping randoms don't waste nitra

[jade tusk]

There's a shit ton of Nitra in the EDD

Had 500 Nitra before starting the uplink

[pure sandal]

Deep Dive Overview

Stage 1:
Defeat 2 Dreadnoughts (classic, hiveguard)
Recover Black Box
Mactera Plague Modifier
Notes: Not much gold or nitra on this stage, be sure to conserve ammo.
Stage 2:
Collect 4 Alien Eggs
Collect 150 Mortkite
No Modifiers
Notes: Alien egg found in starter room starts a swarm when collected. Mineral hoarder is also found in starting room.
Cave is small but has plenty of nitra and gold to collect. Final egg is defended by 2 stabber vines.
Stage 3:
Escort Drilldozer (1 refuel)
Collect 2 Alien eggs
Regenerative Bugs Modifier
Notes: Caves are very complex in this stage, be sure to check everywhere. Both eggs are found in refuel cave. First egg starts swarm when collected. There is a Bet-C located in the refuel cave, I recommend taking it out before starting the drilldozer. Heartstone room has barely any resources. Remember to brine Doretta with you to the drop pod.
Conclusion:
Very simple deep dive here, as long as you stick to the plan you should get through this in no time. Also I'd recommend bringing a scout with you, its hard to see in these caves.

[junior fossil]

EDD Overview;

[jovial turret]

well I said randoms and I take escort seriously

[junior fossil]

stage 1: simple - connect the pumps clear the map, deal with the dread, stage 2: careful lethal enemies, there is 1 mule that is on a cliff so be wary about throwing the legs, stage 3: same as stage 1 just with abit of elevation and lots of rocks

[jade tusk]

What sort of randoms did you get? Storm troopers?

[jovial turret]

yes

[jade tusk]

We really need a firing range

Would help some of those storm trooper trained dwarfs out

[jovial turret]

I've bad bad experience with stage 3 escort

[oblique glen]

🤨 you got a betc? lucky