deep-dive-discussion

[calm jetty]

Dont forget to take unstoppable

[lucid island]

?

dont have it

[calm jetty]

3 missions straight in glacial strata without it

Sounds horrible

[calm jetty]

Rip

[digital chasm]

managed to complete the EDD solo gunner

[lucid island]

trying to do driller

probably wont

nearly died on the first one

good news is that face melter deletes swarms

and theres enough nitra

hatem dread twins tho

fuckin

spike balls

[alpine raptor]

Try running full cryo? Vampire everything. FEED!

[lucid island]

bruh

my dads berating me for spending too mcuh time on the computer as i die 1:15:58 the deep dive after trying so hard

well i got my blank core

[echo storm]

cryo vampire drill
yummy hp

[north stump]

Did anyone else feel that this week’s EDD was significantly easier than last week’s?

[shadow shoal]

Make your dad do it while you do homework

[old widget]

just did it with randos, including two sub-30 player level, I did think it was pretty easy. team almost wiped during extraction on stage 2 because we called pod immediately after swarm announce, yet our driller opted not to drill to the pod, but otherwise it was fine. rich atmo neutered the stage 3 difficulty

[topaz wraith]

@old widget sounds like the crew that I was in

the two sub 30 swarm killers on our team (driller and gunner) failed to do so, it got so bad that I had to double dip on the ammo to stay alive.

[lucid island]

it felt pretty hard to me

but thats probably because im bad and solo

[jaunty tiger]

im in the worse deep dive team of all time

[dusk hazel]

rip

[jaunty tiger]

i think we will finish but

its unbearable

and a fucking leech wiped the whole team on the last stage

[dusk hazel]

rip

x2

[mellow cove]

Is it truly worst team if engi doesn't kill the entire team with fat boy

[dark vector]

idk cave leech getting a quad feed is kinda top of the list of shit teams

i'd say #1 indicator of bad team is someone killing a lootbug while you are petting it

[mellow cove]

Yeah petting lootbugs is unacceptable

[vague sun]

just finished the EDD

stage 2 got cruel near the end

after trying to solo it twice, I went in with randos

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[clever saffron]

Mission Control LOVES having strokes

[willow wave]

At what point should I attempt an EDD as a newish player? I’ve promoted two classes once that’s about it

[wraith shard]

Once you can reliably clear Haz 4 I'd say. EDD is Hazard 4.5 on the first stage, then 5, and 5.5 on the last.
You keep the rewards of every stage you complete, so if you only manage to win stage 1 you have a blank matrix core at least. Don't be me and wait for too long. There are also easier weeks than others. So if one won't seem possible, try again next week.

[echo storm]

my personal rule is 3 tries

[jolly hazel]

id say be able to complete haz 5 reliably

[wraith shard]

For attempting?

Most people who can reliably clear Haz 4 can clear the first stage of the EDD

[jolly hazel]

you can attempt at whatever you want

but

id say you need to be able to handle haz 5 to beat an edd

[wraith shard]

We're not talking about beating all stages though

[jolly hazel]

you have to get through all 3, you are locked in

[wraith shard]

The longer they wait to attempt EDDs, the more blank matrix cores they're missing out. I'd make it a goal to just clear the first stage at the start.

[jolly hazel]

if you cannot get through the other two stages, you are a net drain on the others

[echo storm]

yes but attempting solo is whatever

[wraith shard]

But no one said they are doing it with randoms

[echo storm]

they literally asked about attempting an edd

[jolly hazel]

if they arent doing it with randoms, they would have probably asked their more knowledgeable friends or specified they were a group

[echo storm]

lol

[wraith shard]

It's just a question from someone who started the game.

You could specify that if you are attempting it with randoms, let it better be "reliably clear Haz 5" to not end up being a burden

[north stump]

I primarily play on haz3 and do fairly well on the EDDs but maybe I’m over performing on h3 and should move up

[lunar helm]

If you want to try EDD go for it I say

Getting stage 1 and 2 are the main rewards

[wild birch]

you ok mission control ?

[clever saffron]

mission control is having a stroke

[wild birch]

oh :0

[jolly hazel]

true but dipping or just not trying with randoms on stage 3 is lame, especially if you are an important class for that stage

[shut oracle]

this weeks edd was pretty easy imo so id just try

stage 2 can be annoying with alot of swarmers and exploders

[glossy dock]

As a filthy casual, I hope someone only hoping to realistically get through one stage communicates that before we start

That’s not the sort of thing that should come up or become painfully apparent beard deep in bugs

[shut oracle]

if u can get a sticky flame driller rly helps alot this week

[supple zinc]

Me and a friend were able to duo the EDD second try, driller running cryo and me as gunner running thunderhead with neurotoxin rounds

[old widget]

An iconic duo for sure, probably two strongest EDD builds in the game

[tulip idol]

but no synergy lol

I believe Bullet Hell is the best synergy to cryo cannon

even when driller freezes smth out of sight you still kill it through the wall lol

NTP-fear is better with flamethrower cause it pushes enemies to walk twice or thrice on the same sticky flames and adds another DoT to flamer's ones

And I also like to think about double fear from flamer and ntp

[old widget]

Yeah, fair, AC explosion damage doesn’t get the x3 from cryo

Does fear effect stack from NTP + flame?

I thought not but am not sure

[tulip idol]

fear is random chance so the more sources the better chance

P(AB) = P(A)*P(B)

or smth like that

[tulip idol]

Accounting Fear Resistance as 50%, flamer's RoF as 6 and AC's RoF... let's count for 6 too: 1-(0.53*0.18)=>90% to scare grunt, praetorian or warden after 1 second of simultaneous fire

[dark vector]

damn robots. this is our turf

[tulip idol]

Season 3: Rival Intrusion — they tampered Mission Control!

[tight mauve]

second stage edd is so awful what

literally over half the morkite is in the cave at the end

[barren nymph]

I've failed it 10 times with different groups of +100 dwarves

[tight mauve]

gonna have to play driller next time the tight corridors with exploders is just unbearable

[warped rune]

Math weird o.o

[echo storm]

jeez

never had an edd take more than 3 tries

[barren nymph]

I seriously need help if anyone can..on playstation

[cursive lodge]

It's so hard not to get frustrated with randos on the edd

[candid solstice]

deep dive on this week is not hard, its just very long for solo

[cerulean lichen]

and it is very annoying when you have a shit engineer

[lunar helm]

this week's EDD was not easy

Not insanely difficult or unfair, but quite a slog

AT the end of stage 3 we were all mentally exhausted

I was playing engie and there were lots of scary moments

The whole team had 10+ downs I think

sadly scout took cryo nades and cryo minelets for some karlforsaken reason

But scout clutched and was able to revive us in a hole that opressors were digging

we just about survived after 1hour and 11 minutes, but it was an experience we won't forget, we barely made it out with beards intact

[candid solstice]

@lunar helmstop wining and try it solo

[lunar helm]

You're a bit of a jerk aren't you

[jade tusk]

Can agree. It is a slog, but at least there was no real bad modifiers this EDD as it could be worse

Haunted cave Refinery anyone?

[lunar helm]

Yeah, regen bugs is a bit annoying but at least it isn't haunted cave, low 02, shield disruption, lethal enemies or elite enemies

[jade tusk]

Regen bugs is probably worst modifier of the group, but as long you finish your kills. It won't be much of an issue

[echo storm]

i found stage 2 for the edd was the hardest part
stage 3 was easy mode

rich atmosphere is quite fun

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[rose atlas]

So I just completed this week's normal dive by valiantly throwing myself into the path of a bulk det to repair Dotty just enough for her to hang on and finish mining the Ommoran. Perhaps not the best display of technical skill, but if I had another dwarf down there with me, they surely would be singing songs of my bravery in the face of overwhelming odds.

[tiny swift]

I like that. You rocked and stoned that bulk.

[high storm]

can EED+pots o gold ever be more credits per time than any gold rush+pots o gold mission?
ive noticed pots+1 cave length is only like 600-700 gold

[wild birch]

you ok mission control? need help?

[ancient arrow]

Go home mission control your drunk

[alpine gale]

you drank Blackout too much

[left sleet]

edd this week was rather hectic, but seemed pretty tame

that was fun

[west merlin]

Play whatever is most fun for you but yeah you can definitely do haz 4.
I clear has 4 like 90% of the time and still struggle with EDDs.

[jovial sail]

I find EDDs are actually less of a challenge than haz 5 sabotage or double warning (good double warning, not swarmaggedon or parasites or the other weak ones)

[west merlin]

That makes sense yeah, EDDs never get double warnings and haz 5.5 isn't much worse than 5.
And you can carry nitra over

Back when I mainly did haz 3 DDs also seemed a but easier if anything

The lack of side objectives also cuts down on unexpected surprises I think

[jovial sail]

I clear Haz 5 no warnings basically with ease at this point, and EDDs just feel like a more time-consuming version as long as it didn’t roll cave leech cluster or something

Cave leeches are a running joke among my regular team cause we’ve had so many fails that otherwise had been going perfectly

[west merlin]

Interesting; I rarely find those to be a problem these days (on haz 4). Maybe always being on voice chat and saying "leech!" as soon as we get leeched makes a bug difference tho

And we do often get downs and lose a lot of health to them but it's been ages since one threatened a teamwipe. Maybe I've just been lucky to rarely run into then during swarms

[zealous pond]

love it when the only other high-level member of the EDD quits halfway through the first stage

[winter oak]

Drilldozer with no sheilds? No thank you. I can live without this weeks cores.

[high storm]

Swarmegeddon can get pretty painful if gunner and driller go down or aren't played well
I've never really had an issue with parasites though
Mactera plague and lethal enemies is where the true pain is at

[patent carbon]

i can dodge mactera, i cant dodge swarmers

[shut oracle]

u can pickaxe them though

aoe pickaxe mod helps for the big swarms if u lack aoe

[tight prism]

Im struggling with EDD stage 2

Played like 20 times already

Only 1 organised group managed to get through the black box.

What strategy did you use for stage 2?

[shut oracle]

i was sticky flame driller and just sprayed some lines which killed all swarmers and exploders

[atomic yacht]

I just Rambo that shit with gunners hurricane

[sly kettle]

Oh, right

Deep Dive reset is gonna be an hour later than usual.

Daylight savings adding another hour.

[sly aurora]

Predictions on where the deep dive will take place?

[random rampart]

on hoxxes

[vague sun]

our team had two engineers on the EDD
they blocked off one end of the cave, where the black box resides, with platforms

so all the bugs got funneled in from the other end of the cave

[wild birch]

hmm i think dd will be salt pits caverns and edd will be magma

[sly kettle]

If you are referring to time, it'll happen in roughly 1½ hours.

[shut oracle]

tbh blackbox position was pretty good if u could keep the exploders on distance

i told team to hold one side and held the other side with sticky flames

pretty glad i didnt go cryo

[lunar helm]

How long until new dives?

Time switch has me confused

[topaz plank]

1 hour and 15 minutes

I believe

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[golden granite]

Mission control is drunk

[wild birch]

you are drunk go home

[topaz plank]

Who will drive him home?

[random rampart]

He is at home.

[topaz plank]

And how do you know that?

You looking at him though a window or something?

[shut oracle]

part of the crew part of the rig

[topaz plank]

I think it's "part of the rig part of the crew" but you do you buddy

Anyway 15 minutes to new dd and edd

[shut oracle]

idk didnt watch pirates for a while

haha

[topaz plank]

Nah its fine buddy

[shut oracle]

but squidface is cool

[topaz plank]

1 minute gentleman!

[carmine copper]

anyone up for edd? gonna grab lunch and then we go

[topaz plank]

Nah can't atm

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[carmine copper]

too bad

[topaz prairie]

👍

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Crystalline Caverns | Code Name: Barbarous Carve
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | No Mutators
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 200 Morkite + 📡 1 Black Box | Swarmageddon

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Hollow Bough | Code Name: Fearless Land
Stage 1: 250 Morkite + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Parasites
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + Dreadnought Classic | Rich Atmoshphere Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 250 Morkite + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption

[topaz plank]

So far pretty good...

[lunar helm]

Hollow Bough EDD

[topaz plank]

I find magma core wost

[thorn patio]

Ewwwww hollow bough

[jade tusk]

Hollow bough horray....Time for Shield disruption the Biome

[tight prism]

Failed again

[topaz plank]

Oof dreadnought hive guard

[tight prism]

We had bulk detonator showing up while gaurding black box

[jade tusk]

The question is how the cave generation and Nitra looking for the EDD

Oh fuck me. Mactera Plague

[thorn patio]

Sheeeeeeeeit

[topaz plank]

Welp that took a turn for the worst

[jade tusk]

Good news at least it's a fast mission type

[quiet mortar]

EDD in a nutshell lmao ^

[topaz plank]

Just waiting for stage 3 now

[random rampart]

Reverse is applicable in drg's case

[topaz plank]

Bet its point extraction and black box with shield disruption

[thorn patio]

Calm down Satan

[topaz plank]

No

[lunar helm]

mactera plague

[quiet mortar]

[topaz plank]

Oh no

[random rampart]

They're being kind. A couple weeks ago (I think) it was dreadnought(s?) + Morkite + haunted cave.

[thorn patio]

Yeah i remember that one

That tiny ass room at the end with the hiveguard

[blazing nexus]

aye the haunted cave dread wasnt too bad

[topaz plank]

Only because its hollow borrow

[random rampart]

Hollow Borrow

[jade tusk]

Haunted cave is usually awful on mission types where you have a central area to be around or forced to hold position

[austere sonnet]

Q

[jade tusk]

Like Point extract, Refinery, Salvage operation

[thorn patio]

Oh god

[topaz plank]

I had a brain moment ok?

[thorn patio]

Point extract in hollow bough with black box and haunted

Yikes

Imagine

[topaz plank]

HA

I ALMOST CALLED IT

[thorn patio]

Imagine the shitshow that combo would cause

Last stage of an edd and the game just throws that at you lmao

[sly aurora]

curious what stage 2+3 are of normal DD

[random lagoon]

is the dread in stage 1 edd glitched for anyone?\

[random rampart]

@quiet mortar gonna piss ya off () and pressure ya into updating regular dd info

[carmine copper]

ndd 2 eggs bb

[jade tusk]

This EDD is the case of "Generally lax missions, but with brutal modifiers" (Outside of the first stage of EDD)

[quiet mortar]

But I don't know it yet :(

[random rampart]

UPDATE NOW

[wraith shard]

Hiveguard bugs out sometimes. Let it melee you, or try to melee it. If nothing helps let one dwarf go down. Should spawn the sentinels eventually. Don't abort

[quiet mortar]

Fine, have stage 2

[random rampart]

wer stag 3

[quiet mortar]

You'll get stage 3 when you finish your stage 2

[jade tusk]

Cave leech cluster. Eh. Time to run heighten senses Or let the scout trigger all the leeches

[random rampart]

NO

NO MY MUM

[topaz plank]

Only 6 eggs?

I'm impressed

[jade tusk]

2 swarm triggers overall and time to see how badly people just pluck eggs without thin----and we got a double swarm fuck me

[topaz plank]

Oh yeah and cave leach cluster

[thorn patio]

Heightened it is

[topaz plank]

I'll see how the cave gen is

[sly aurora]

so many cave leeches in 1 room

[topaz plank]

How many?

4?

[sly aurora]

watching stream and theres like 6 in 1 room

[topaz plank]

Damn

These dd and edd are playing out like a movie

[waxen terrace]

hollow bough ughh

[jade tusk]

In before really low Nitra amounts overall

[waxen terrace]

i hope this edd isnt stingy on nitra

[sly aurora]

how many resupplies do people typically use on a DD?

[topaz plank]

Just to save you from scrolling ^

[jade tusk]

Depends on the loadout of the team and how badly they suck at aimming

[waxen terrace]

usually 1 or 2

preferably 3 max per stage

[sly aurora]

for me, its 2 (1 on stage 2, another on 3 unless need one more

[jade tusk]

I seen some real stormtrooper dwarfs that needed 5 Resupplies in 1 stage of EDD before

[thorn patio]

Lmao

[random rampart]

The pinned message is also updated with that message, so you can also refer people there lol

[waxen terrace]

stormtroopers with no ammo mods

[topaz plank]

Ik but that hasn't been updated yet

[jade tusk]

Nitra starved caves might as well be it's own modifier sometimes

[lunar helm]

Anyone played EDD yet? Is it one with low nitra?

[topaz plank]

Hope not

[thorn patio]

Don't give them ideas lmao

Low nitra on like a 3 dread or some shit

[lunar helm]

[jade tusk]

It's surprising just how much harder suddenly being starved on Nitra can make missions

[lunar helm]

true

No nitra means less health and less ammo

Which can spiral out of control if you start having to use suboptimal weapons for sitiuations

[thorn patio]

Means you need to be efficient yeah

[jade tusk]

And pray to god you don't get Storm trooper trained dwarfs with you on that mission

[carmine copper]

ndd3 morkite BB

[topaz plank]

SWAMAGEDDON

With black box

[quiet mortar]

There you go enjoy your Stage 3 :)

[topaz plank]

Thank you

[shut oracle]

ew hollow bough

[topaz plank]

We get it

[shut oracle]

stage 2 looks tough gotta rush the dread

[topaz plank]

Hollow bough isn't nice

[shut oracle]

and hope no1 pops an egg before

[topaz plank]

Yep today's dd is going to be interesting

And edd

[shut oracle]

had an edd with randoms where i wrote we predig eggs before starting dotty and dude just started

then we were at first fuel stop and he popped an egg

shit went dense

[topaz plank]

Yikes

[carmine copper]

classic 😄

[shut oracle]

whole cave was full of bugs lol

[topaz plank]

That's why I don't trust randoms in edd

I can put up with them in dd

[shut oracle]

yeah i always play either with 3 randoms or with my brother and 2

but thats part of the fun 😂

[dense pond]

why havent the ingame edd's updated yet?

for me it's glacial strata

[carmine copper]

am currently with randos... normal dd went awesome... under 45 min

now we tackle edd

lets see how it's going

[topaz plank]

Spoiler alert: it doesn't go well

[vital sluice]

I had that same issue once, you have to restart the game after the deep dives change

[dense pond]

yeah i just figured it out

i was so confused lol

[carmine copper]

ok... did dd and edd with randos one after the other... passed both at first try, but the 3rd stage in edd just one survived...

[echo storm]

at least u finished

[stuck tapir]

That shield disruption looks nasty

[tall meadow]

Alright done with this week EDD

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565850434376302613/959099209540313138/20220331073543_1.jpg?width=1149&height=646

Its been awhile since I crushed myself with a supply pod

this week is pretty smooth and convenient

2nd stage all eggs be within reach of each other and a perfect killing floor for dread

3rd stage just watch your steps on the pokey bits, I accidentally got a bunch of thorns rammed into me

[wraith shard]

It prickles!

I'm going to run the EDD tomorrow I think. But good to know. Still debating about what to bring as Gunner

[short charm]

In all my time, I have never seen that many mactera before. 2nd mission.

Easily 25-30 of them in some waves, the gunners shield was the go-to spot every time. I tried to apply fear with the M1000 in the center mass over and over, but they were pretty dang relentless.

[old widget]

AoE hurricane rocks for Mactera Plague

[arctic sorrel]

Stage 3 of the EDD was a nightmare to traverse, it took me almost 40 minutes to complete

[lost night]

me and the boys die

also both scout and gunner didnt realize pretorian's bite are long

also some quick tips, if ya on first stage on EDD break the cacoone fast or else it spawn Hiveguard instead swarm

[west merlin]

That's probably random.
If you broke the cocoon a bit earlier you might've gotten 2 hiveguards at once

[lost night]

Well me and the boys didn't start the cocoon yet and it spawn Hiveguard, and the AOE accidentally hit the cocoon

[tall meadow]

That would be just pure luck you get a dread

instead of a swarm

[tacit jungle]

Man that always comes as a surprise. Praetorian rears back to vomit at you... and then bites instead 😦 😦 😦

[quick scarab]

What’s the mix this week?

[soft token]

looks like weve got an easy EDD and an AWFUL DD

two black boxes with cave leech and swarmageddon

hell on earth

[waxen terrace]

lol

if you played DDs the objectives dont matter when its haz 3

[odd path]

It's an Egg CLC, so as long as you don't go barreling into the egg room at full speed just check the ceiling and you'll be fine

[waxen terrace]

the eggs are all in 1 room at edd 2

but the room has a breeder + 2 spitballers + nexus

[topaz prairie]

and a lot of stabber vines

[tulip idol]

Staggering Bullet Hell or Salvo with Lead Sprey

And there was just enough nitra for medium ammo efficient weapons.

[frail patrol]

Why do I feel like the EDD is always on fking hollow bough?

[tulip idol]

It's the first hollow bough this year

But the terrain is quite memorable.

[quick scarab]

sad dwarf noises mid run of a good EDD and my internet goes tits up.

[frail sorrel]

yeah, i can second this notion. we had our gunner zipline in and got absolutely chomped to death. there's easily at least 12-14 leeches in that cave

[hoary cove]

sees it’s cave leach cluster

ok let’s zip line in

[frail sorrel]

I even said over voice chat "Watch the ceiling." and the whalepiper just dives right in like it's a pool

fortunately, all the leeches are in that one cave, so if you deal with them all, you're good at that point

[frank grotto]

Hello everyone id loke advice on the edd, I usually run it solo first attempt but if I fail I go with others, any advice for solo engi?

I have max perks and a few overclocks for all his weapons

Like fat boy or mini shells

I usually run clean sweep on the pgl

And extra ammo on breach

[pliant onyx]

Hey anyone want to do a deep dive?

[violet warren]

Check the LFG channels

[pliant onyx]

Oh wait ah gotcha

[tulip idol]

Breach Cutter for macteras and dreads, and high damage primary too like Executioner or EM Refire (electrocutes grabbers too)

Among BC OCs which are all good, I'd prefer Inferno or Crossover, Lok has synergy with both, Stubby has it with Crossover

Dash and Steeve/IW may be

[shut oracle]

electric oc is pretty good too on bc

lets me use armor break cause i dont need slow and stun

[tulip idol]

Stun is literally your saviour against macteras lol

[shut oracle]

usually breach itself or trail after kills them fast enough

[echo storm]

probably gonna run hyperprop

[tulip idol]

hmm with ECR it might work

[bold maple]

I really liked burning hell VB build for this EDD

enough single target dmg for dreads with the minigun and amazing at crowds too. simple and straightforward

just a great all around build

[ashen forum]

Are plasma buster missiles or persistent plasma any good?

[bold maple]

im not a fan of plasma burster missiles personally. persistent plasma is pretty good with sludge builds iirc

persistent plasma gives u another source of DOT and slowdown to add to enemies trapped in your sludge

couple it with plasma burn so you can set your goo puddles on fire for fire DOT as well

[ashen forum]

Ooo that looks like alot of fun

My engineer like level 4 tho lol

Not engineer

[bold maple]

yeah so you can stack 3 DOTs with it, and persistent plasma slows down even further

[ashen forum]

Driller

[bold maple]

can also use neuro grenades on driller if u want even more slow and another DOT lol

just be careful not to set your neuro cloud on fire

[ashen forum]

That build looks godly for deep dives lol

Only thing is survivability

[bold maple]

its a solid support build to apply slow to an area and also soften enemies

[ashen forum]

Does shield link work in shield disruption missions?

[tulip idol]

I stopped myself at thought that it's useless against dreads

[bold maple]

its not that its awesome at them, moreso that its an option you can take where you arent a detriment against them

compared to something like NTP, carpet bomber

obviously not the first choice for elim missions, but i kinda like it for deep dives

[tulip idol]

having some heating on elims is counterproductive most of the time

so yeah I was right - my driller went cryo

[bold maple]

haha my driller was flamer

it was ultra fun

the whole biome was ablaze

[tulip idol]

well you had hard time with dreads ig

[bold maple]

they actually went very smooth tbh

they didnt take long at all and i only died once the whole dive

[tulip idol]

I'd go slowing down sludge with BH VB

[cerulean lichen]

BUG ALERT!

[bold maple]

yeah it was just a rando team

we kinda just hopped in the lobby and rolled with whatever anyone wanted to pick

pretty solid team though

[tulip idol]

I didn't ask either 😄

although I do it time to time

[bold maple]

sometimes i dont like looking at the dd contents ahead of time so i just took BH to cover whatever might come my way

[tulip idol]

the driller guy had "Grandpa Ruiner" nickname

I figured out 😄

[bold maple]

pretty fun dive, the mactera came aplenty

[tulip idol]

I count BH as progressive missions weapon, perfect for expeditions and rich atmos

like the opposite of defensive stuff

where you have to stay

[bold maple]

yeah i just got it recently

really fun to just run ahead of your whole team and wreck face

[tulip idol]

and we have 2 expeditions, I guessed it first by that reason

but yeah, when you just open new stuff, it's normal to stick to it

[violet warren]

Is it possible for bulks to spawn in mactera plague, or is it always safe to bunker and absolutely screw over the mactera?

[burnt sandal]

it's still possible to have bulks even with mactera plague, though it's less likely

[tulip idol]

it's like 25% probability

[violet warren]

So still good to have an emergency exit, even if 75% of enemies are replaced with mactera

[tulip idol]

assuming there are 4 options for the 3rd place in disruptive pool

[violet warren]

Since mactera plague will automatically add goo bombers and grabbers as 2 of the slots

[brazen musk]

Is the pinned message updated?

[violet warren]

yes

[brazen musk]

Thx

[lost night]

Funny enough I didn't do that DD cuz someone host on a previous DD

[cerulean lichen]

i believe you can do the new dd now, to get extra cores

[lost night]

Interesting, I might do that but I probably wanna go play other game cuz that EDD hurt my bearded

[upper geyser]

Done with EDD, but it felt less like I was playing with a team, and more that I was cleaning up for teammates doing reckless stuff constantly.

Like, to the level where it stopped being fun

[unreal talon]

Man we had a rough third stage. 2 bulks and a random dread spawn (twins). We cut it really close on nitra and ammo. Barely made it out alive.

[left mango]

Lost an Engineer right at the end of Stage 2 (DC'd, not downed), and man did I wish I had them on stage 3

[warm light]

EDD is good, stage 3 is deceptively hard.

Had one of those gunners who refuse to use their shield for anything for a revive, cost us two runs because I didn't want to give up on him, but he showed me he wasn't going to change when he said I was whining when I asked for a shield.
Third attempt we lost the driller on stage 2 because his net probably dropped, scout greenbeard tucked tail and ran, finished the run with just me(gunner) and an engineer.

used Iron Will for the first time too

[violet warren]

Maybe the gunner thought that "shield disruption" means "my shield generator is broken too"

Which to be fair it doesn't restore shields but it still blocks things and clears space

[warm light]

no, not just stage 3

all stages

both attempts

[cerulean lichen]

terrain is pain in the ass on stage 3

disgusting

[waxen terrace]

gunners who only drop shields for revive are really bad gunners

[echo storm]

gunners coming in clutch when facing the firing squad macteras

[cerulean lichen]

"firing squad macteras" cracked me up 😂

[echo storm]

vivid memories of seeing an engineer build turrets facing towards us for a salvage during uplink only to be shot at point blank range by 10 macteras once they turned around

[warm light]

Gunner is easily the one class that makes or breaks a mission, on either difficulties that shield is invaluable, the specialites of every other class can be worked around, but only the gunner's shield can prevent certain death.

Blocking the shots of 10-15 mactera gives you such a feeling of power and confidence.

[unique ore]

until you get a shellback, confidence gone

[tight lake]

This week's Deep Dive was EZ money and cores

[alpine raptor]

Got the DD in 41 minutes with Pub Randoes. Great friggin team.

[lyric pagoda]

bit of a rough edd with some randos (featuring : fatboy-happy greenbeard engy who has no idea what 'minimum safe distance' means, and the host calling our last resup at the stage 2 drop pod exit because he thought it was the 3rd stage end, lel) but success in the end. fuck no-shield hollow bough though, that is two hundred percent ass.

[fossil lagoon]

Rank 27 player hosting the EDD: "I've been waiting for ages"
Me: Okay, small red flag there, why not.
Turns out, they don't read chat, double dips resupply pod, in the second mission they pulled egg after egg 💀.
pulls second egg
swarm
Me: Don't you dare
Me: Oi
pulls third egg
Me: you've got a death wish
At that point I straight up left.

[ebon dove]

Yesterday I played a deep dive, with a closed team, and we ended up with 400 unused nitra.

It was abundant in nitre.

[violet oasis]

I had amazing luck with randos this time. got EDD first try and 1 man down (dc'd)

[junior tangle]

This week's DD gave me more trouble than the EDD.

I don't know if it's because this week's EDD was surprisingly easy, even despite Shield Disrupt missions that I hate,

or was it because in phase 2 of normal DD we just ziplined into a room of 10+ leeches like a bunch of dumdums ;V

[unkempt saffron]

Pretty much the only way one could ever die in an edd a dd is from leeches

[clever saffron]

What's this weeks DD

[unkempt saffron]

check pinned

[signal sail]

Anyone who knows what the normal dd is? Put the answer in spoiler please so you won't ruin anyone else's experience.

[west merlin]

Pinned messages

For the EDD stage 2 ||Does Mactera Plague mean substantial numbers of Mactera will spawn during the dread fight evenif you pull no eggs? I haven't played with that on elimination before||

[arctic sorrel]

I'm pretty sure nothing can spawn if a dread is active

[feral pilot]

No macteras/swarms during dread unless already in progress, believe that is standard unless point extraction

[junior tangle]

I probably wouldn't enter a deep dive discussion channel if I wanted to avoid information about them

[idle marsh]

Actually, I think that hasn't been updated for a good while now.

[waxen terrace]

its updated

[sinful apex]

Original post is from a year ago, but it is edited every week at reset with the correct information 👍

[waxen terrace]

can confirm i ran the dd and edd and the modifiers are correct with the pins

[idle marsh]

Oh, editted. Fair enough

[idle marsh]

Thanks for the clarification

[signal sail]

Yeah but still, some one might be mad about it.

[jovial sail]

If someone gets mad about it they can suck it up. We ain’t exactly shouting it from the rooftops, this is a channel meant for that

[idle prawn]

Yo y on haz 4 did 2 dreads and 2 diets spawn on a refine liquid morkite mission

[restive patrol]

dives lately have been kickin my butt

engi with his nikola tesla build is pretty much a necessity lol

[worldly tulip]

EDD stage 2 has been consistently lethal to me. I've tried with 2 random groups and 2 classes and we all get downed in the hail of macteras, a spitter, a swarmed nest, and the expected hundred grunts

[jade tusk]

Stage 2 isn't that bad, but then again. Bunkers were used to handle the swarm egg triggers

As long as you have good Anti-Mactera set ups you'll be fine

[obsidian heath]

Bunkers help against the mactera swarms. There were like 2 BDs though, should have an escape plan. Our Cryo driller was on point, never had to deal with a BD blowing up.

[obsidian heath]

To the point above, does pulling an egg cause a swarm when a dreadnaught is active? If nothing spawns could the party kite it and pull all the eggs during the fight?

[runic zenith]

Holy sheet the EDD this week is scary. Stage 2 with mactera plage and stage 3 with shield distruption, bad spiky terrain (of course), a dreadnaught spawn and bulk detonators

[woven ether]

Stage 3 without gunner was kinda yikes

[junior tangle]

Stage 3 EDD was surprisingly easy for our group, Stage 2 was kinda tough in comparison that's true, we've been pulling eggs like no tomorrow and there was a LOT of macteras. I'd pick some anti-mactera setups if you're struggling, we've had a cryo driller, Iron Will and our team in general responded well to downed allies.

Cryo Driller especially is great for this EDD because of vampire perk + barbed drills through frozen grunts for Shield Disrupt and it's also good against macteras.

[jovial seal]

hi, how do i collect the mothly reward?

[calm jetty]

This was the easiest edd i have ever played in my life

[desert ibex]

holly shit

stage two edd

[unkempt saffron]

Stage 2 is definitely a little tough with how open the cave is and the added fact its mactera plague

But if one is gonna go the cryo driller route just let the rest of the team know, it can be quite annoying when youre trying to freeze something only for it to be reset to burn damage just because someone ran napalm rounds on their hurricane etc.

[violet warren]

My team beat stage 2 with a bunker to funnel all the mactera into a narrow chokepoint and murder them

And then the engi brought hyperprop and I was slowing the dread with sludge so the dread did nothing

[waxen terrace]

my stage 3 was really rng lmao

first attempt had 2 bulk spawns in the final cramped room

2nd attempt was too easy

[violet oasis]

I ziplined down into 8 leeches. Though I did that on purpose and was looking up the whole time. I just wish I had been recording so I could have shown all those tentacles coming down at me. One almost got me in a side cave but I managed to see it and power attack it before it got to me.

[modest crypt]

I'mma be honest, didnt know you could attack the tentacle grabber

[mellow cove]

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[echo storm]

man this dd was not kidding when they said cave leech cluster

had to save the entire team

otherwise it was pretty easy

[dawn belfry]

man

me and 3 others were in phase 2 of EDD

but just as we enter we got stuck in the pod

our driller was still loading

and when he finally loaded in we all got booted back to hub

this happened right before phase 1 too

dang

i dont think i even get any of the rewards

straight black screen back to hub

[waxen terrace]

when its cave leech cluster

make your scout flare the entire room

and look up

[latent raft]

tentacle grabber?

oh cave leeches

[wraith shard]

ceiling spaghetti

[jovial sail]

Me and my friend got absolutely screwed by a random dreadnaught spawn on the EDD

We were going for the speedrun as a duo and it left us without enough nitra to survive the Mactera Plague

[wraith shard]

Can dreadnauts spawn in edd/dd?

Never seen it happen before so curious

[upper geyser]

They can

[jovial sail]

Absolutely. Source: my acid-burnt ass

[chilly tinsel]

Yesterday we had twin Detonators on the third stage of the EDD

[quaint ferry]

We beat stage 2 clean but then molly pushed the last dwarf standing into a bulk on 3 so we lost

[random rampart]

what ass?

[jovial sail]

Lmfao

[steady ginkgo]

Yikes

[still veldt]

yup i got a dread spawn at the end of an edd i did today

[dreamy saffron]

some random used up all of our nitra on 6 resupplies on the first mission in a deep dive

idek why, they were doing fine and cooperating throughout the whole game and then snapped at the end

[leaden cypress]

[tulip idol]

it must be somehow tied to the seed, I got it too

[burnt sandal]

spawns aren't tied to the seed

Same number of players under the same circumstances = the director having a high chance to choose the exact same thing because it followed the same logic patterns

especially on deep dives where the level is seeded and the spawn "pool" seeded as well (IIRC)

[patent carbon]

So what's the chances of two random dreadnoughts in a row

[burnt sandal]

extremely low

but we were talking about bulks

[patent carbon]

Because that happened to me and @jagged swift last week on our first attempt of the edd. I was hoping it wasn't random and I'd get another chance at it like that again lol

[burnt sandal]

give it another try and you'll see ^^

[patent carbon]

Well we did and got two bulks instead lol

[wanton berry]

Any advice for getting started in Deep Diving?

[still veldt]

Be conservative with your ammo and nitra each stage, as your ammo count will persist on each stage and not reset. Only go for resupplies when your team needs it. Always make sure to have a bunch of nitra saved at the end of each stage. You can be more liberal with ammo use once you reach the final stage if you have good nitra savings.

[wanton berry]

Thanks, that would actually help a bunch, looking back I was totally wasting resupplies.

[hoary cove]

bruh my advice is the opposite. Resupply whenever you want within reason

[violet oasis]

I've had 2 random naughts before but not in an EDD. Damn bro.

[still veldt]

I actually do the same thing myself. But I got a good sense of when its the right time to do so so my edds/dds usually have a surplus at the end, but the advice of "being conservative" isn't mutually exclusive from doing it "within reason".

[drifting quail]

whats a deep dive

[wanton silo]

A dive that happens to be deep

[lime storm]

Yesterdayd EDD might've broken my crew. We couldn't get past Stage 2 no matter how hard we tried.

I think something just broke after i cryo-'naded what felt like 20+ macteras at once only to be greeted by 30 more.

That said, digging out 3 eggs at the same time in hopes of only spawning one wave might've backfired

[echo storm]

you just gotta dig a little trench thing to bait them one at a time

err tunnel

can't be too big or else they spawn in with you

[leaden cypress]

That isn't how it works indeed

the swarms & hordes stack each time you pick an egg

[lyric pagoda]

there's a hard cap on enemy count though right, so if you picked all/most eggs at once the swarm can only get so big - right?

[hoary cove]

60 enemies and 60 ‘small’ enemies

[lyric pagoda]

that low huh, thought it was higher than that somehow. i guess it just feels that way when theyre all trying to eat your face off.

[alpine raptor]

How do you eat a sh*t sandwich? One bite at a time.

[pseudo knoll]

2nd ever EDD done

[sick ginkgo]

Hello guys

Any tips for this week deep dive?

[shut oracle]

damn stage 3 edd made me sweat, nice cavegen 😂

[jade tusk]

Outside of the general tips. Pack gear that can easily handle Mactera or have a good plan against Mactera swarms

[shut oracle]

gunner left stage 2, driller left mid stage 3

[jade tusk]

A lone scout and Engie. Still have some fire power with the Engie

[shut oracle]

yeah close but we made it

ton of nitra gladly

[jade tusk]

I was half expecting Nitra Starved being the hidden modifier this EDD since we got Hollow imo one of the top 3 worst biomes

[shut oracle]

focus shot stun and cryo nades saved my ass many times

[sick ginkgo]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lok 1 or cryo cannon can do that

[shut oracle]

cryo nades are so good vs mactera swarms

breach cutter works too

[jade tusk]

Snowball OC is pretty nice as well

But with 2 dreadnaughts fights. I rather have Ice spear for the Cryo

[lunar helm]

The EDD went well for my team

Not even close to everyone being down

Very professional, no nitra problems, good communication

[pseudo knoll]

I have not done EDD with 4man

most lobbies for EDD is like : " LVL 500 OR KICK"

like jesus christ

I am literally 51 player level when I did solo this edd

[waxen terrace]

lvl 500 is a stupid checkmark

majority of people dont even have rank 500

[tulip idol]

solo is easier

especially when there are no defensive objectives

[lunar helm]

I hate it when people do that lol

I like playing with low rank players cause it makes it more challenging

[tulip idol]

most people are just scared of carrying poor performers

[lunar helm]

Yeah even though there's Nothing wrong with carrying

Imo

[tulip idol]

they just hide behind all that lvl requirements in their server names like cowards

[lunar helm]

Level 1000000 or kick

Mine gold = kick

So stupid

[tulip idol]

I don't remember when was the last time I lost an edd when hosting with randoms

and I have only one requirement - be able to respond

[lunar helm]

This game is not that difficult that you have to restrict yourself and sure maybe gold isn't a priority on Edd but bro

[lunar helm]

Yea same

I don't like people who just ignore everything

[tulip idol]

most of the gold veins are fast to mine

3-piece combo takes few seconds

[lunar helm]

Yeah gold is not a big deal but if i play scout on edd i won't mine it

And i won't platform it unless pinged

[tulip idol]

nah better platform everything just in case

[lunar helm]

On normal missions i would usually

But on edd i won't

I will plat red sugar and save for other things

[tulip idol]

I think I went out of platforms only on dread missions recently

[lunar helm]

Magma core

[tulip idol]

there is no dmg lol

those cracks rarely interfere

[lunar helm]

They interrupt your shield regen

So it's a big deal if your health is low

Or there are many threats

[tulip idol]

hot rock? yes but it's not really that important too usually

hot rock actually acts like repellent I remember

[shut oracle]

our driller just used tcf on everything and then be like can i have 2 supplies pls?

told him like 3 times to not waste ammo for stuff i can mine

i know tcf is cool but rather safe it for mactera swarms

[lunar helm]

Lol

Tcf drillers be like :easy to mine minerals near the ground? Let me do it

[shut oracle]

maybe he trained it cause he needed multiple attempts each

but edd isnt best place to waste ammo usually

good there was plenty nitra this time

[wicked storm]

sz

[verbal pewter]

This is why I don't let my teammates worry about it and simply use the Subata

[waxen terrace]

dont even bother using tcf unless its for oil shales

let the scout mine everything

[hoary cove]

hahahahahaha

wait your serious?

[glossy dock]

My first solo EDD. 2 hours. I have a headache. Rock n' stone. thud

This mini-mules weren't lost, they was hiding

[quick scarab]

Is it better to run sludge or cyro for this EDD, cause I find myself running out of ammo with sludge with handing the rushes.

[lunar helm]

Cryo works very well this EDD, lots of mactera

I wouldn't go sludge this week, but flamethrower is good too

[wicked frigate]

Can someone please point me to info on this week's EDD? (Stuff like which missions, which mutators etc)

[tall meadow]

Check pins

[wicked frigate]

thank you

[tall meadow]

Pin is always updated each reset

[manic pivot]

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[wheat gull]

I ran the DD this morning, and legit had a server disconnect just as I was stepping into the escape pod.

[alpine raptor]

RIP and stone.

[west merlin]

Oof. Maybe the game should make it so if you disconnect after pressing the escape pod button you still get credit.
Some people would turn off the internet if they looked to be losing on the way to the escape pod but then you can just edit your save file in this game so it wouldn't be an especially egregious cheat.

[past shuttle]

Opinions on the sludge pump? Imo I love it’s insane area control and weapon feel but idk how viable it is

[wheat gull]

It'd be too easy to take advantage of, and the bailout process is an important part of the mission

[wheat gull]

For the DD? Handy against swarmers 😮

[west merlin]

True, but GSG's policy for the most part has been "you're only cheating yourself" and that seems to basically work, albeit mainly because there's no PVP. That would also be true of people who regularly disconnect to skip the escape part.
However it'd be really annoying for the other people who they're playing with, which might be reason enough to not do it.

[wraith shard]

is it just me or is this weeks EDD just the absolute worst lol

usually I have no issues with them, but it feels like its impossible with randoms

[unkempt saffron]

Its a challenge, but its not impossible

[unkempt saffron]

Its good, requires a somewhat different style of play compared to the cryo and crspr

[past shuttle]

noted, just wanted to know if it was viable or not since it's my favorite weapon right now

[unkempt saffron]

Pretty much every weapon is viable given you build it and play it right

[hoary cove]

very viable, anyone that tells you otherwise is a big fat liar

[odd comet]

Sludge is very good at area lockdown. It lasts longer than max sticky flames, covers a significantly larger area for less ammo, and slows enemies down even more. But trying to build it for direct damage felt very underwhelming to me, and trying to find a middle ground between area control and direct damage even more so.

[hoary cove]

i cudnt disagree more

sludge blast is very respectable single target and VIM is an amazing all rounder that can chunk HVTs and delete small groups of grunts

[violet warren]

I ran sludge driller on a glacial strata EDD last week and started to really like the sludge driller concept as a whole, it's a different playstyle from other driller builds due to the range

[brazen musk]

I like using the flamethrower in glacial strata because of the naedocyte alone

[hoary cove]

Ye i don’t run sludge in glacial strata or dense biozome without persistent plasma

[scenic finch]

I first tried it solo. Not hard in the slightest.

[pearl sundial]

How can one complete the elite deep dive in the hollow bough? It is such a pain in the ass and i have No idea how to beat it even with 3 people

[glossy dock]

I ran it solo with toxin AC and Elephant Bulldog. Used tunnel kinks to handle swarms. Ammo wasn’t as much of an issue as running out of shield uses

[quick scarab]

What is the 3rd matrix on the EDD?

[random rampart]

A cosmetic core

[vapid monolith]

Edd bugged? Hiveguard in second stage didn’t spawn the sentinels, we checked the other rooms and there was nothing

[old widget]

HG sentinel bug is very common, not just on EDDs. melee HG, stand close enough to get bit, or let it kill a dwarf

[wraith shard]

Ooooh thx for the tip, I've ssen that bug a few times

I mean I see bugs all the time, but usually I just shoot 'em

[vapid monolith]

We did walk right next to it, hg just walked around invulnerable and didn’t aggro

[old widget]

did you melee it?

[burnt swan]

dw

[analog blaze]

Did the EDD a second time to progress my milestone for EDDs. Apparently it doesn't progress if you already did it? Or does it not count progress if you personally don't reach the drop pod?
.

Any tips for solo EDD runs in general? Speedrun before swarms happen, bunkering up?

[lunar helm]

I would advise do not bunker, use open terrain and mobility

Visibility is also very important

Communicate with teammates and work with the terrain

If you are driller, open up flat surfaces further so the team has more space, if you are engie fill in holes and expand narrow ledges if you are fighting on it

If you are scout make sure to use light and look for nitra, ignore gold, nitra is your main responsibility

As gunner don't forget your shields and ziplines, and use shields preventively as well as reactively when someone is down

[violet warren]

Bunkers hard-counter mactera plague though

[quick scarab]

Bunkers are good up till 3rd dive, just lost mine cause someone called in Molly to block the hallway then the scout froze us to death with cyro grenades.

[hoary cove]

bunkers are very good at making me bored out of my mind

[main raven]

stay making those bunkers so i can keep firing my breach cutter down that hole

[shut sierra]

Just strafe, ezpz

[hoary cove]

it’s rich atmosphere. just run around

[whole fossil]

Breach cutter supremacy

[main raven]

FOR REAL

[whole fossil]

It’s cracked

[placid crane]

can't understand the purpose of bunkering, closest i do is making a small ceiling in mactera plague every once in a few months if i feel the desire for it but other than that i just shoot them and dodge as needed, tri-jaws are pretty easy to dodge unless you have half a dozen show up asking for free real-estate

[main raven]

better than the deepcore pgl imo

[whole fossil]

I only use the deepcore with the rocket jump over clock cause it’s fun af

[main raven]

oh shit i havent got that overclock that does sound fun

I only have the mini nuke one which people usually hate

even though its really funny

[whole fossil]

Yeah it does almost no self damage and you get crazy mobility

Mini nuke is Comedy Central

[main raven]

i hope you like giant explosion AND you cant go in that area for like the next 10 seconds

[whole fossil]

Lol

I’m an engineer main for the most part, it’s true one I’ve had most fun with

[wraith shard]

I mean you can go into the area if you want to sport a green sun tan.

[main raven]

yeah i started with gunner but didnt really feel it

[main raven]

portable tanning device

[waxen terrace]

stage 3 is just do your objectives before a bulk spawns

[whole fossil]

My current loadout is warthog, breach cutter, LMGMK2 with charge shot and lure

Hella fun

[hoary cove]

they’re both very good

[main raven]

yeah pretty much the same except i use 2 turrets instead of 1

[main raven]

yeah but the breach cutter is just so satisfying

lining them all up and shredding them down is just 👌

[whole fossil]

Tri beam moment

[hoary cove]

i wudnt say one is better then the other tho. Breach cutter is more versatile but pgl is better swarm clear

[whole fossil]

Very true

[main raven]

yeah you are very right

[zinc current]

I love the breach cutter, helps a ton to clear smaller enemies after using the lok1

[echo storm]

i use lok 1 with hyper prop

in case you couldn't already tell i am always in ammo poverty mode

[calm jetty]

Easiest edd ever

[echo storm]

this edd is not it for me

[hoary cove]

ecr with hyper prop is actually pretty good

[fathom hawk]

https://discord.gg/B2D6pRQ7

someone want to do deep dive elite with me?

[violet warren]

#lfg-steam

[icy lagoon]

if you don't bring special powder to deep dives are you really living the dwarven experience?

[scarlet jewel]

Yes

Because i dig everything

[alpine raptor]

Just mained Scout on the DD as trio and got more kills than the Gunner and Driller combined. Ran out of ammo a few times, not gonna lie.

[latent dagger]

does your back hurt from all the carrying?

[alpine raptor]

I was having too much fun to notice. 🤣

[latent dagger]

[lost night]

Okay why the hell I got crash on DD???

I got crash twice

[slow gust]

WE DIVE DRUNK!!!

[solar nova]

jesus
on EDD last stage, after dragging our half ded selves into the mule cave, surviving bulks and everything thrown at us
"scanners show dreadnought heading your way"
a collective simultaneous "Are you shitting me?!"

[scenic finch]

Crash bandicoot is a very good game, odd that you can play it in drg though.

[wraith shard]

Love it when that happens

[hollow isle]

Elite dd was too crazy, every minute a new wave of flyers attacked

[carmine spindle]

me too

after update

[rigid venture]

Whoever had the idea for this week's EDD must think he's a funny guy

I'm gonna charge him for my blood pressure meds

Nuts

[reef bison]

Yeah mactera swarm was kinda crazy on round 2.
I was gunner with engi and driller, I kept double dipping pods to keep getting shields constantly. If I hadn't done that we would have died very early on.
Also on round 2 me and driller mined an egg in the spawn room at the same time, so mactera swarm spawn was f*cking crazy

[cursive lodge]

Does morkite stay in your pocket from stage to stage in deep dive same as nitra?

[old widget]

Stage 2 would’ve been more epic without rich atmo, running around in circles in the one big chamber worked surprisingly well (as long as the goo bombers and grabbers were kept manageable)

[old widget]

I don’t think so, but an interesting question. You should test!

[cursive lodge]

I've been meaning to but always forget when I get the chance

[old widget]

Would be tricky to make use of though

You’d have to not deposit at all on stage 2

Hmm, I guess though you could have morkite primary/secondary back to back

Just not this week

[alpine raptor]

Only gold and nitra follow you to the nextstage.

[wraith shard]

Tested that quite a while back. It does not work unfortunately.

[tidal spade]

man what in the hell is the layout of that edd stage 3

such a bad cave like holy

[hoary cove]

welcome to hollow bough

[tidal spade]

thats why it will always be my number 1 most hated region

magma core being a close second

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[mortal kelp]

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[old widget]

yeah the cavegen on stage 3 was particularly bad even for HB, took us a silly amount of time to find the chamber exits twice in a row

[wild birch]

You drunk mission control go rest for a while

[quiet wyvern]

what is wrong with the bot?

[old widget]

the bot is perfect

[fast sluice]

mission control has been snorting crushed error cubes

[pearl sundial]

Ok the deep dive elite stage 2 seems actually impossible. I mean i'm sure it's not but damn it is so hard. If anyone got any tips on how to beat it then that would be appreciated

[old widget]

biggest advice I'd give is to set yourself up to properly abuse rich atmo

we also had gunner with neurotoxin AC and driller with sludge for good CC, tag the mactera, kite for a while, tag, kite, etc.

[solar hatch]

I iust fail stage 2 normal dd lmao

[pearl sundial]

If you don't mind telling how can i abuse rich atmo properly?

[plucky needle]

Run

[solar hatch]

Run and gun

[pearl sundial]

Ah. Right.

👌

[solar hatch]

Both you and enemy move faster but they still stop during attack animation unlike you and gunner

[calm chasm]

Does activating the dreadnaught fight on stage 1 elite deep dive stops the upcoming waves or they jist keep coming regardless?

[plucky needle]

They will come

If you want to parse them separately try doing dread right after wave

[old widget]

enemies don't move faster in rich atmo, just dwarves. miner's manual is wrong, I filed a Jira bug on it several months ago but it's been low priority for GSG to fix apparently

rich atmo is pretty OP

[burnt sandal]

I mean, it's supposed to be a positive bonus, so yeah

critical weakness is also OP af

[old widget]

indeed

[sick lake]

New dd drop yet? Pinned message is last week

[burnt sandal]

the DD resets every thursday, at 1PM CET

[sick lake]

Damn, thought it was Wed lol. Ah well

[jovial sail]

Ugh I have encountered several prime specimens of Dwarfus Dumbassicus on the EDD

All greenbeards, too

[grizzled blade]

what was this weeks elite deep dive?

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[old widget]

Pinned messages shows this week’s dives. It’s up to date, despite the timestamp on the post.

[grizzled blade]

ah alright

the amount of stabber vines on this stage 2 is ludicrous

[old widget]

Yeah the main chamber is a bit of a mess

[grizzled blade]

this one was a lot easier than the last

maybe the elite shield disruption will make me want to eat myself

[grizzled blade]

yeah the last edd was much worse

[calm rapids]

spent the last 4 hours tying to get past stage 2 of the elite dive, this feels impossible what is this... like 30 mactera come at you at once how the crap you meant to live this crap

[spring rapids]

i hope sometime there is a dlc where we explore other planets orbiting Hoxxes. Also with some new ores and recourses to spice things up

Maybe a moon of a gas giant or twin planets whould be really cool

[unkempt saffron]

This is #deep-dive-discussion mate

[grizzled blade]

are you solo?

what class are you rn

[calm rapids]

gunner, not solo with randoms

[waxen terrace]

use your shield and keep moving when you lack shields

[hazy glen]

holy crap we had to scratch and claw our way out of stage 2, with the sheer amount of slasher vines and mactera, it was a miracle that we made it to 3

53 downs total after dying at stage 3

Cryo grenades and just general good team effort worked though

[burnt sandal]

holy shit

congrats

[tulip idol]

so good scout moments while team kept failing at surviving

[hazy glen]

not this time, one of our team left but each of us had our moment

two iron wills had to be used against a bulk det fight

Gunner had to use a shield to get past the bulk det in a tight tunnel to revive the team while also mactera and a billion bugs

[tulip idol]

driller couldn't rotate you?

a single tunnel would wreck all the macteras, bulks and bugs

[hazy glen]

everyone was down besides gunner

[tulip idol]

so gunner didn't tell the team to join him in better place then

[hazy glen]

well regardless we were all randos lvl ~90 average, it was a blast trying to simply stay alive and have ammo

[tulip idol]

the thing is you can be lvl20 but through communication and cooperation you may still limit your deaths in the way you would fail as team not just random individual repetitive deaths

[hazy glen]

Well, its obvious we have different (but both valid) viewpoints on gaming and totally fair. Personally I have not looked up a single thing for this game and I'm just experiencing it to the fullest, gaining skills slowly as I do more difficult stuff. If I wanted to challenge myself and apply all of my skills I would of joined a 4 man VC to do the elite deep dive, since I can't expect or force random people to dedicate full focus to what may be a chill experience for them.

[tulip idol]

I remember once I asked some people I was helping - what's my strongest char and their response really surprised me. Although historically I practiced and experimented engi the most and was equally good on gunner and driller, they said they're impressed how I coordinated them as scout. I was calling spawns, was cutting waves with nades in time, reviving in no time... I did a lot of utility but I wasn't pro scout in battle, it was all just utility. And I had strong position to not go for 10+ revives cause it's pointless to ress them to make them die again. Now I do voice calls in crucial moments but it's because I compensate that with another tools in regular moments, and EDDs are not as hard today so I can be sure I won't die and make a difference. I look beyond what's happening on battlefield and making timely call when team is about to start struggling is better than go for 30 resses on your own. No constant vc is needed for that, there are at least 4 other tools for comms. And as scout you have the best view on battlefield, so making those calls is really a need.

[echo storm]

ok nvm the edd is easy when playing with friends

had a driller leave because we asked him why he kept popping eggs without asking

lol

[waxen terrace]

calling out spawns is better than having to revive your mates 200 times and them being blind to whats hurting them

[rose atlas]

So my friends and I (typical three stack of Engi, Driller, Scout) can practically run the standard deep dives in our sleep, but every time we try the elite, we rather unceremoniously get our rears handed to us. It's not uncommon to see folks in here casually commenting on their performance in the elite dives; are we missing valuable strats or is this just a case of us still needing to wash the green out of our beards?

For some context; did this last week's standard dive in a little over an hour, no downs, wasted some time chasing a hoarder, whatever. Our attempt at the elite dive saw us going through two full resupply pods just to kill the hiveguard in stage 1, and promptly team wiping about three minutes afterwards.

[analog thistle]

are you guys used to haz 5? bugs moves faster in haz 5 so kiting becomes slighty different

[unkempt saffron]

Id say its normal to spend that much resups though usually id advise on using a single resup when handling dreads if possible to save nitra, but it seems that your team maybe inexperienced with higher hazs

[shut oracle]

id reduce supply use to getting ammo and if u rly have to along with iron will (every1 else down) and not use it as healing pod

[unkempt saffron]

And the difficulty increase from regular DD to EDD is rather significant, so if you dont have experience from playing haz 4 and 5 then youre really gonna have a bad time

[shut oracle]

sometimes i use it for heals but thats mostly just in shield disrupt missions

[vernal willow]

This tells me your group just doesn't have enough experience on Haz 5. Ammo conservation can be important for the 1st two stages of a EDD, then usually fine by the 3rd. Using two resupplies for a dread fight isn't unheard of course, but 1 should definitely be enough. A seasoned group in Haz 5 can usually send the scout off and pop the dread before we have even farmed 80 nitra, and only worry about the ressuply after.

Haz 5 (and EDD's) has room for mistakes, but not so many that if someone is going down everytime a dread does its big stomp (for example), your team probably needs more practice on positioning.

The only reason to spend 2 resupplies on a Dread fight is if you are spending damage windows doing something else then shooting the dread in the butt basically.

[hoary cove]

the reg dd is haz 3 to 3.5, so it’s pretty much always a breeze. Edd difficulty can vary a lot depending on team experience rng and the modifiers

[amber belfry]

Doing solo EDD before weekly reset, wish me luck and only tears of joy.

[wraith shard]

anyone wanna do a deep dive before reset? still havent done mine yet (NA east)

[manic pivot]

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[carmine copper]

question... why is my edd countdown stuck at 1:33

ehm 1:11:30

and not going down any further?

and dd is stuck at 39:30...

[leaden cypress]

Because that's the time it took you to clear the EDD & DD

Not a countdown

[tulip idol]

• First build equipment synergy (far-close targets, large-small targets, status effects combos, utility tools synergy)
• Then think about what calls you'll make and via what you'll do it. Throw some ideas if you know what you'll encounter.
• During the mission think about both survival and objective progress equally. I mean, not progressing quickly is just as bad as going down, and Point Extraction even has direct scaling to that, but it's like that for any mission type. Do not waste time on unimportant things.
• There are certain strats and tricks both for individual use and team use, but don't expect people to describe it all in form of message here. Be more exact with what you struggle at. Hiveguard just needs good equipment I think and that's all. Really looks like equipment issue more than missed moments for attacks.
• Record and rewatch what you and your mates were doing wrong, come up with new strats and improvements. Don't give up after one try, beating one edd makes it a lot easier to beat the other ones.

Also current EDD was the most epic for me on my recent memory, even though I played like 85% concentrated.

[manic path]

current EDD? the new one today?

[sly kettle]

Yes. In half an hour there's a refresh.

[manic path]

oh thought it had reset already

[solar hatch]

Fking molly moving thro the wall again

[topaz prairie]

Hello everyone

[sly kettle]

Nah, Denmark recently went +1 hour due to Daylight Savings so the time has been pushed an hour.

[manic pivot]

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[topaz prairie]

[wild birch]

[sly kettle]

Good luck, everyone!

[carmine copper]

ok... stupid me....lol

[warped sapphire]

hopefully the elite isnt too hard this week

[topaz prairie]

Last one was not that hard tbh

[manic path]

ah alright

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Magma Core | Code Name: Old Hell
Stage 1: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Critical Weakness
Stage 2: ⛽ Refine Liquid Morkite + 2 Eggs | Lethal Enemies
Stage 3: 7 Aquarq + Dreadnought Hiveguard | Exploder Infestation

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Sandblasted Corridors | Code Name: Unknown Enclosure
Stage 1: 3 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | Rich Atmosphere Regenerative Bugs
Stage 2: 6 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Mactera Plague
Stage 3: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 150 Morkite | No Mutators

[silver elbow]

sanblasted is a vibe

[sly kettle]

That's one hell of a fitting name/biome combo on the Deep Dive.

[signal pawn]

[insert anakin sand reference]

[vague sun]

Sandblasted 👀

Fav biome tbh

[dense pond]

hoping this week’s edd will be tough for a change

[tulip idol]

it already looks easy

[dense pond]

imagine magma core + shield disruption + mactera swarm

something like that

recently the edd’s have been too easy (apart from the one 2-3 weeks ago where the last dive was hell)

but hard ones are a rarity

[wraith shard]

sandland!

[jade tusk]

What sort of hell awaits this EDD and the internal question. Will it have the Nitra starved modifier

[tulip idol]

sands? probably the easiest biome for nitra

[jade tusk]

Unless you did all 3 stages already. Gonna be waiting on the initial scouting report from the first contact teams

Oh boy. Mactera plague the return

Stage 2 of the DD looks fun.

So much for giving Driller a break for this week of DD and EDDs

[silver elbow]

that many mules in EDD gonna give tons of nitra

might not even have time mine lmao

[jade tusk]

2 salvage operations with an egg hunt in between

Now to see how the caves look

[summer forge]

Any hoarders?

[jade tusk]

1st stage off EDD appears to have a Breeder floating in the main cave

[floral otter]

is anyone else getting a deep dive refresh timer of -50m?

[valid swift]

Did you relaunch the game?

Should help

[floral otter]

ah alright

I'll do that

[jade tusk]

Adding on to it. 2nd stage has a breeder floating around just as you spawn in

2nd stage is a very open and very big. An awful combination with lots of mactera flying around. There's a few pockets of cover here and there, but if looking for a safe and cheese way to survive the mactera BS. Bunker straits with an escape route built will help

[shut oracle]

nice sandblasted is prob my favorite biome

sharks can get annoying but can live with

[jade tusk]

Fuck sand sharks

Time to nuke every sand shark I see

[burnt pilot]

Don’t do that no no

@shut oracle hodor : ((((

[sly kettle]

The normal Deep Dive had two Hoarders for me. I played solo.

[warm light]

EDD this week is very easy

[unkempt saffron]

edd lookin ripe for quick runs

[pine epoch]

Is it easier than last week's?

Two weeks ago was my first EDD and it compared to last week's was very hard

Two weeks ago took me some 7 attempts, but I got last week's on the second try

[warm light]

Did it first try with a greenbeard engineer and a driller who refused to help the team and then quit, plenty of nitra and open spaces.
He was REALLY insistant on using bunkers to the point where during stage 2 he was standing in a side tunnel doing literally nothing, he quit after the first egg when I threatended to kick him if he didn't start helping.

So just me, a decent scout, and a greenbeard engineer.

Note that difficulty depends on personal skill, I'm very good at this game, but the engie had 8 deaths and scout had 6.

[dreamy kite]

driller, your job is more than just sitting in the holes you dig bud

bunkers are nice, but only needed when you get the swarm warning, lmao

[topaz prairie]

Cant disagree!

[warm light]

Even then if you're good enough you still don't need a bunker, he probably thought we would lose without him because there's a mactera swarm warning, but no without him it became a lot easier since then we weren't fighting extra bugs.

Personally I take both duration upgrades for the gunner's shield, so mactera were no issue

[oak horizon]

Dreadnaught first or aquarqs first on normal dd

[unkempt saffron]

either or since its just a DD

[old widget]

This seems like a good week to run the normal DD with “all dives Haz 5” mod

[lyric pagoda]

edd was very smooth this week, just with randoms and it went down like an oily oaf (due to some prudent bunkering on the mactera stage)

[vernal willow]

did I just play with you?

[thick jetty]

Lots of mules on the edd
Ambient bug waves only start when you get close to the mini mule for the first time and when you stick legs on it, right?

[old widget]

correct on the mini-mule spawn, and about right for the legs. technically 1 of the 4 legs that are stuck in the ground (per mule) is "booby-trapped" and will spawn a mini-wave when you dig it up, but it's about the same net effect as what you described

so if the team fans out and brushes past more than one mini-mule in quick succession it can make for a Fun Time

[tawdry birch]

This was the first week I succeeded on an EDD

Struggled for Nitra on stage one until the mules were built, but then the rest was pretty straight forward. Even the Haz 5 mactera plague wasn't the worst

[glossy dock]

I would like to think after some mactera in Hollow Bum last week, it can only get easier for eternity

[violet oasis]

On mactera plague I just pickaxe a hole in the wall for myself every so often so I don't get horked on by 50 of the buggers. don't need to go full bunker.

I've only played gunner in EDDs but I am trying to train up my other classes for them.

seems engi can run to a wall and put a couple plats up to stand under to avoid mactera money shots

[winter kestrel]

for any of the flyer waves find a tight tunnel fighing them in a big open room sucks

[violet oasis]

I like to carry cryo nades on scout if I see a whole whackload of them rucking up on us but scout can just zippitydoo dah away. driller I drill into a wall and throw snow

it's such a bugger when they come up on us when we're already in a swarm though.

[winter kestrel]

just did a tunnel then only takes a sec gunner throws shield driller makes a 20ft tunnel and then you cabn funnel them

[violet oasis]

my experience is almost always with randoms and some teams just don't stick together and coordinate that well. Some are amazing. Just the luck of the dice for it mostly

if I am driller I can make a quick dirty bunker by drilling into a wall a few meters and then throwing a c4 in there

[winter kestrel]

see i dont do the bunker anymore at all

[violet oasis]

if everyone follows me in we just laugh and destroy everything that tries to fit through the tiny hole

[winter kestrel]

the extra space is not worth it

id rather tunnel

[violet oasis]

depends on the team.

mostly I would rather just do a double wide tunnel some 5 or 10 meters in

[winter kestrel]

driller just needs to be ready in case of bulk

[violet oasis]

if I only do a single width tunnel my team ususally ends up FFing each other trying to cram together to shoot.

but I am sure if I gather a group of friends who work well together it'd be fine

[winter kestrel]

thats a good point i was thinking with a dedicated team

[violet oasis]

Ideally the team would just be together and their combined fire would just kill the buggers before they can blow yellow snot all over you

[hollow citrus]

the 2nd map in the DD is the smallest refinery map i've ever seen lol. literally 3 wells and 2 eggs in 1 room

[pallid maple]

Boy I love elimination on point extraction

Nothing unfair about constant waves during a boss fight

[quiet wyvern]

really adds to the tension, lol

i don't admire them that much either, but it does provide a quaint challenge

[old widget]

PE + dread, name a more iconic duo

[austere mason]

eggs + doretta

[barren girder]

salvage + dread

[glossy dock]

Rock and Stone

[obsidian basin]

slob my bone

[west merlin]

Oh huh. I always take size since I always play MP and use it for rescues (and often miss when throwing), never realized with duration you could actually gun down a substantial number of enemies inside. Maybe I should try sometime

[west merlin]

Pull aquarks until the 1st swarm then as soon as you clear that pop the dread, remaining aquarks afterwards.
My team tried to do that but discovered the Dread was in a really out of the way spot that was hard to get to so we were only 2/3rds of the way through the dread by the time the 2nd swarm popped

Interestingly enough, we had a Bulk Detonator and the Engy blew it up while the Dread was in spike mode, the Dread instantly died

So I guess the bulk broke the spikes then dealt HP damage in a single explosion?

I'm glad it works that way if true but I was surprised by it

[waxen terrace]

generally if there is a dreadnought on PE i prefer getting the dread done with before spawns go bullshit which can happen if you spend too long in PE especially an EDD PE but its dd so do whichever

[west merlin]

Oh wow the EDD has only Regenerative Bugs and Mactera Plague. That does look easy.
I hope I'll be able to find time to do it in between the easter assignment and promoting gunner

[scenic finch]

M.U.L.E mania

[violet warren]

So this week's EDD has craptons of nitra

[brazen musk]

It's salvage so it will always have decent amounts

[bold maple]

Yeah its insane

Over 700 on the last stage for us

[violet warren]

That's what a bunch of mini mule objectives will do

"This is your EDD on mini-mules"

[soft token]

what’s the best hurricane loadout for the fragmentary rounds OC

[leaden cypress]

31222

[prisma spear]

hey quick question, do you unlock more beard types by getting cometic packs

i am a driller rank 2 level 8 btw

[wraith shard]

11222

[burnt sandal]

you can by beards in the shop and you van get them through cosmetic cores
also for general question, you better ask in #drg-chat

[prisma spear]

ahh my bad

thanks for the reply doe

[quick scarab]

Question, why have my DDs changed but are still comeplete?

[acoustic junco]

dont you hate when your edd run gets ruined by a betc?

[tight lake]

EVERYTHING WAS LAVA TODAY AND I HATED IIIIIIIT~

[devout wing]

Lmao

[tight lake]

An asset if you can beat one, a liability if you can't

[soft token]

skill
issue

[waxen terrace]

platform the lava spots lol

[tall meadow]

this week EDD is extremely simple

[quick scarab]

Shhhhh

[tall meadow]

new folks would be fine this week, looks like a good week for anyone who never tried EDD to give it a go

[tulip idol]

I called that 5 minutes after it swapped lol

[oblique gull]

how's the edd this week?

not that difficult?

[zenith wind]

Pleasant.