shrewd echo
stage 2 is gonna hurt
#deep-dive-discussion
jade tusk
Just remember stage 2 is a Salvage operation so there's no proper swarms. Only mini swarms from taking too long in mission and triggers around Mini mules. Outside of the Egg forcing a swarm and "Hold the line" segment at the end of the Salvage
digital chasm
I just failed the deep dive because I got stuck inside a pipe on the 3rd stage
bruh
full geyser
lol
tulip idol
I just failed the deep dive because I got stuck inside a pipe on the 3rd stage
mates would help with that, better do it in team
digital chasm
I was solo, and literally stuck inside of the pipe, blew up the ground under me and died from lack of o2
my corpse stayed stuck in the pipe
when the drone revived me I still couldnt move
jade tusk
Ice. Drink a few Blackout stouts...That hurts
proven zephyr
The only thing that stresses me out about drg is the beeping of 02 missions and of course it’s the final mission of the deep dive
drowsy sparrow
when the drone revived me I still couldnt move
ive had that bug happen to me twice (dif times)
sullen brook
What level do you unlock deep dive?
old widget
What level do you unlock deep dive?
have to promote first dwarf, get the dwarf to level 25 + complete promotion assignment (4 missions) + pay the promotion fee
sullen brook
Guess I’ll level up gunner
old widget
also only promoted dwarves can join a deep dive
so if you promo gunner but not others, only gunner can join deep dive
sullen brook
Engi is my highest, but I’ll have more fun with the funny guy
And warcrime enthusiast pyro (driller)
jade tusk
Though promoting any dwarf for the first time unlocks a lot of content in DRG overall
waxen terrace
nitra and get to the dread coocoon asap while letting the driller get whatever aquarqs on the way, kill dreadnought then do aquarqs asap while scout mines nitra
stage 2: get eggs since theyre both close together, then make a bunkie during the uplinks
stage 3: same as stage 1 but morkite
bunkies in stage 2 made it so much easier bc those elite macterras hurt
dry wraith
Geez I think our team got really lucky on our edd
The 2nd stage had a few elite preds and guards but like only 1 elite trijaw
There were two back to back elite grabbers but we were all together ab to start the fuel cells so we took them down very quickly
We also lucked out on rocky mountain so all of us were able to quickly grab art quark
frail plume
we failed stage 1 of edd bc of the never ending stream of bugs
i tried popping the dread to make the spawning stop, but it didn't work
eventually we all died
gaunt valve
Haven't tried the edd yet, going to tomorrow
I think I should be able to get through it solo
Haz 5 salvage with scout is gonna be a little 🗿
zinc socket
Egads this weeks stage 1 dive is ... strange
the drop pod went THROUGH the liquid morkite deposit on the way down, it's in the ROOF about half the stage max height away from everything else, bring a digger or else
shut sierra
I might do the dd/edd later tonight
Usually do it the first time, too, if anyone would be interested
zinc socket
that was a 20 L dig, half my total fuel supply
shut sierra
No natural cave generation?
zinc socket
none
shut sierra
Hmn
shut sierra
I getcha
I used to do every dd/edd back in the day when they first came out
Took a break once I got all the ocs at the time
Different type of difficulty nowadays, used to be meta forced to take pheramones/lure
zinc socket
I remember when those were just unbearaly powerful
even then I went cryo as I knew two of the other folk I ran with would have them
1:15:ish solo deep
30 of that in stage 3, 20 of that in stage 1.
normally I'm all "red shugar" about a DD, but this one is a morkite stout
glossy walrus
oh didn't notice the drop pod went through the well. did have to make a long curved tunnel up to reach it though, because screw doing that without going through the wall
zinc socket
well, not QUITE through, but it's REALLY close to tagging it
there is a bit that MIGHT have worked with an engie, spiraling around and around and around...
zinc socket
If I was solo scout and I saw this, I'd have just.... left.
vocal saddle
How was the edd
I didn't come yesterday because Im trying to fix my sleep patterns
10pm edd isnt good for sleep
vocal saddle
Iron will used to be on a cooldown
that's insane. I can't imagine getting up twice in a single mission
rocky chasm
If I was solo scout and I saw this, I'd have just.... left.
Well i was a solo scout :D
Had some fun
I have already met such a generation in regular missions
shut sierra
that's insane. I can't imagine getting up twice in a single mission
It had to be, game was a LOT harder, mactera were stun immune
Also, it automatically went off
And you couldn't see the cd
wet socket
vocal saddle
It had to be, game was a LOT harder, mactera were stun immune
damn
that would've been awful
old summit
doing stage 2 DD and suddenly dc, my internet was just fine
that suck
now i need go back again
shut sierra
The grind never ends
old summit
sinful oyster
shut oracle
had a morkite mission with only small blocked tunnels nearly made me ragequit and go back in as driller
boreal ginkgo
@jade tusk thanks 4 the deep dive tips man. ik im late saying this but better late then never.
jade tusk
Happy to help. R&S
austere remnant
jade palm
What in the holy fuck is the Drop Pod in the EDD Stage 3??
I'm a solo Scout. The Drop Pod is literally inside the wall, I can't get to it
glossy walrus
that's when you start pickaxing, since someone above you said he got the same thing, good luck surviving the bugs while trying to do so
I was solo gunner and mine wasn't in a wall though, so I guess unlucky on your part
frail plume
also the last morkite well in dd stage 3 lmao
digital chasm
pain
analog blaze
God this deep dive
stage 3 is bullshit with that well that's way up top
no O2 + having to scale vertically past chasms with a pipe
digital chasm
I just drilled my way up there
paper oasis
aye that mission is where my driller skills came in handy
scenic finch
I mean, I carried few green beards with my friend and we had no issues on the dd.
Pipes were fine.
I was scout he was driller.
jade tusk
I know what class I'm playing as for the DD. Time to Drill and freeze them
scenic finch
We didn’t have to drill anywhere.
shell zinc
Planning on doing edd eventually, and im already hearing nightmarish stories from it
prime egret
I've only seen a video, the caves are freaking massive
jade tusk
This EDD has a fair amount of Nitra on reserve. The classic Dread's spawn area has plenty of space to fight it naturally. Just be mindful of the exploders that spawn to harass you
2nd stage is the hardest imo. The uplink is up against the wall so if you don't have a driller you don't have a lot of room to play with and the general drop pod area is inside a pit with high up walls. Lots of spitballers and a Bet-C to be wary of
3rd stage is the easiest of the bunch. PE with Morkite secondary. Parasites is a minor annoyance. The general area is pretty open with lots of space to kite the bugs around. Be warn of the Initial breeder on dropping into the 3rd stage
Just like the EDD from last week. A pretty decent EDD for first timers
viscid oak
we drilled bunkers for stage 2 ^^ worked well
leaden cypress
Bunkers 
soft prairie
@shell zinc good bloody luck if you complete it 
shell zinc
Bunkers are great for emergencies, so you cant really shame using it during edd
soft token
leaden cypress
Bunkers are great for emergencies, so you cant really shame using it during edd
It never felt like that in my case tbh
More like a good way to die because the driller just didn't know what to do after making the infamous bunker
aka an emergency exit
shell zinc
Eh usually it varies on map and how good the gunner is in keeping the bugs away
leaden cypress
That can be applied to literally any class
varies on how fast driller kills enemies with CRSPR / freezes enemies with cryo, how fast engi kills enemies with breach cutter/ PGL (HVT or crowd), how fast can scout freeze with cryo grenades, etc
Not to mention bunkering wouldn't have worked in my run since we got a deto & at least 5 oppressors for some reason
jolly hazel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666811422000545805/949434093999890492/202...
drop pod looks like among us
forma suggestiva
neat fulcrum
Is cross platform saves coming?
jade tusk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/666811422000545805/949434093999890492/202...
Okay. I been seeing this a lot. Something must be up with EDD stage 3
leaden cypress
Is cross platform saves coming?
i wish crossplay was a thing as well
boreal ginkgo
Happy to help. R&S
Rock and stone bro
sick crow
Hey guys, me and my friends found this big rock cluster with this like
Mining laser? But we have no clue how to get it to work or anything.
jolly hazel
machine event
need someone with a promotion to activate it
will reward with overclock cores if completed and you are promoted
otherwise its bonus xp
jade tusk
will reward with overclock cores if completed and you are promoted
As long as you have a blank matrix core to spend on it
jolly hazel
holy shit
edd stage 1
can go VERY bad
there are bulks in the spawn pool
funny bulk party in the dread room
wraith shard
Okay. I been seeing this a lot. Something must be up with EDD stage 3
Mine spawned in normal
wraith shard
can go VERY bad
Wait for stage 2 lol. Got 4 Elite Mactera Grabbers 
if very unlucky also elite bulk while in the triangulation zone
This week was very tame again overall tho. Stage 2 the most challenging of the three, despite low grav imo. Lots of nitra.
Do Dreadnought first on 1 and it's sweet
jolly hazel
bad teams again
stage 2 kinda sucks
driller decided to make a tunnel directly to the uplink from the outside
good job driller!(?)
jolly hazel
on paper no
second stage cave has 3 or more leeches
and 3 spitballers
bulks are in spawn pool and elite threat stage 2 salvage
potential to go bad
ashen veldt
Eh, I'm sure I'l be fine
jade tusk
3 elite bulks, 5 elite menaces, and a elite grabber later
warm moth
were you my driller
warm moth
hell yeah. greenbeard driller joined me and a couple of greys and we did it
tiny frost
Spinning death plus ECR for the Lok-1
warm moth
dang nice
warm moth
I bet
tiny frost
threw all of my proximity mines under the egg, popped it, throw down spinning death, then spammed ECR
shit was dead in under a minute i bet lmao
i didnt check the time cuz y'know.. exploder infestation
tiny frost
lofty sandal
any tips on the 3rd map on the normal deep dive
seeing the map generation and low oxygen thingy
or resupply spam is the only way
jolly hazel
resups at pumps
had 2 bulks attempt 1
zero bulks attempt 2
apparently spawn pool does change? or it changes with 3 players if one leaves mid stage
teal sedge
What's the difference between deep dive and elite deep dive?
Can I only get rewards once per week for any deep dive or for both of them?
sonic sandal
glossy walrus
each mission can only have up to 3 types of disruptive enemies, after those 3 slots are filled no others can be added. notably bulks are a disruptive enemy, so if you get 3 non bulk types then you're safe from bulks for that mission
I forget if EDD spawn pool is the same for everyone or not. if it is, then you may have just gotten lucky and not actually rolled a bulk spawn, even if it's one of the 3 available disruptive types
my solo edd stage2 had menaces, grabbers, and... I forget if there was a 3rd now
I don't even remember seeing a single disruptive enemy type in dd stage3, but I was taking care of the line to the pump way up top through my tunnel, so maybe none of the disruptives reached me
shut sierra
the main difference between the two is..
DDs difficulty is 3.5, 4, 4.5
Where EDD is 4.5, 5, 5.5
That's all
vernal willow
DDs difficulty is 3.5, 4, 4.5
Pretty sure reg DD is 3, 3.5, 3.5 or 4 afaik.
shut sierra
Huh, guess they changed it
chilly pendant
regular DD is 3, 3.5, 3.5 and EDD is 4.5, 5, 5.5
opaque bloom
EDD is so hard this week
lunar helm
each mission can only have up to 3 types of disruptive enemies, after those 3 sl...
Is there a list of all the disruptive enemies somewhere?
glossy walrus
I don't know of one off hand, but it's mostly any non static enemy that you don't see in almost every mission (so no grunt/guard/slasher, praet/opp, mactera/trijaw, web/acid spitter, swarmer)
off the top of my head, bulk, grabber, menace, goo bomber, roly poly, warden, sandshark
oh yeah, warden was the 3rd on my edd stage2
static enemies like spitball, leech, spawners of both types, and crassus don't count either
waxen terrace
EDD is so hard this week
you havent seen hard
shut sierra
I'd say the hardest EDD (maybe of all time) was either the first or second EDD in magma core
Constant earthquakes stunning the whole team during a dread fight with endless mactera spawns
Keep in mind, mactera were stun immune at the time
Probably had shield disruption before it gave you damage resistance too
IIRC, I did double scout, double gunner
since without pheramones/shields, you were pretty much instantly killed from macteras
as you can't really dodge very well during an earthquake that slows with zero warning
waxen terrace
there were a few edds where its clutch
shut sierra
Yeah, only did the double pheramones/gunner strat once
I'd say the easiest way to do things is with a 3-man team
Best scaling to player ratio, IMO
oak horizon
That group of cave leeches in the normal deepdive lol
waxen terrace
the last edd i did before this was annoying
oak horizon
Just watched my whole team get insta gibbed
shut sierra
Flares up, look up
shut sierra
Tip, if your teammates icon flashes green, they're grabbed
oak horizon
Green 👀
shut sierra
Yep, lots of details on the HUD
For example, if you tap your laser pointer, those four boxes indicate ammo on your teammates and yourself
(underneath each icon)
jade tusk
Each box is 25% of the total ammo of the dwarf
jolly hazel
off the top of my head, bulk, grabber, menace, goo bomber, roly poly, warden, sa...
sandshark and roly poly are not in the list iirc
oak horizon
Eh ammo icons are misleading
vagrant wagon
Does playing EDD after completing DD give a different set of rewards?
shut sierra
You can't get repeat rewards in drg
But you get the same type of rewards
Blank, oc, cosmetic core
Meaning that with both dives and the weekly core hunt you can get 3 of each reward type
For a total of 9
If you get all ocs, they're replaced by blanks
And if you get all cosmetic cores, they're replaced by mineral cores
jade tusk
Eh ammo icons are misleading
Still a good enough estimate of how the team's ammo is doing and helps to decide to drop a resupply or not
amber belfry
What kind of build is suggested for flame Driller on the EDD. I'm thinking it's just a bad idea due to the Dreadnought secondary the first mission.
amber belfry
oh okay
jolly hazel
I take range extender oc
and the sticky flame mods+flame reach mods
get to apply flames at gunner distances
random rampart
Any tips for an engi on this weeks dive?
which one?
oak horizon
What is a classic dread I see it in pins and all that, is it just armoured dread
jade tusk
What is a classic dread I see it in pins and all that, is it just armoured dread
Classic dread is the first Dreadnaught to be added in.
random rampart
What is a classic dread I see it in pins and all that, is it just armoured dread
A dreadnought that's not a hiveguard or one of the twins
jade tusk
We have HIveguard and the twins
random rampart
That was the og dreadnought
inland magnet
which one?
Basic, NOT THE EDD
royal vapor
Anyone else having trouble on this week's EDD?
wraith shard
Anyone else having trouble on this week's EDD?
I felt it was a fairly tame week again. What is causing you trouble?
And what did you run/ what did your team bring/ public lobby, solo or friends?
royal vapor
Pub/ Engi three times, scout twice, and I don't remember what my team brought every single time. Except the Driller. He brought Cryo and EPC, except for the very last couple of times he brough flamethrower. I brough cryo minelet/bullet of mercy for scout, then when I went engi I brought stunner shotgun and hyper propellant before driller switched off. I then in turn used spinning death BC.
wraith shard
What stage did you fail?
royal vapor
- Multiple times. Made it to stage 2 twice, first time I didn't expect the many many spitballers, the second time it was 15 seconds from the drop pod turning on.
wraith shard
Our strat was to rush the Dreadnought on Stage 1 first thing before even collecting nitra to prevent swarms coming in too frequently and only having to deal with some exploders. Then nitra/ aquarqs speedrunning and don't waste too much time looking for everything. There is plenty of nitra on the second and third stage as well. You won't be short.
Second stage I reccomend clearing the big cave where the mini mules are before pulling the eggs, the welcoming committee was huge. Your team needs good aoe and something against macteras (lots of elites and elite grabbers). Be careful to not separate in the cave where the mini mules are and pull legs from the ground/ repair one by one, otherwise you'll get swarmed/ overwhelmed by the mini mule patrols.
Third stage is the easiest, just be very fast.
That being said, you could still be very very unlucky to get an Elite Bulk during uplink on Stage 2. In that case you should use your in-game mic and coordinate very well to not fail the uplink.
jade tusk
When the Bulk gets very low on HP. Very recommended to freeze with Cyro driller + Cyro grenades and deal the finishing damage. This is to prevent a real big fucking crater
scenic finch
First stage is kinda weird with how the bulk spawns, maybe thats just an xbox thing though.
Wasnt too bad but stage 2 got us with the uplink
wraith shard
First stage is kinda weird with how the bulk spawns, maybe thats just an xbox th...
Enemy spawns are somewhat individual and depend on rng. Iirc there is a common spawn pool of enemies that can spawn in, and they are capped to different enemy types (disruptive enemies/ normal enemies/ pre-spawns). I've had weeks where I ran the same EDD multiple times and sometimes we got bulks, sometimes not.
waxen olive
I don't know what's changed, but a few weeks ago I was getting bulks constantly.
Like in every mission, sometimes two or three.
Now I'm hardly seeing any.
wraith shard
Sometimes it also depends on how long it took. The longer you take and more swarms that spawn in increases the chance of a bulk. We had a bulk this week on stage 1, but he came very late to the party when we were already in the pod. Others may take longer and have to fight
wraith shard
Hmm, unlucky then
glossy walrus
it's also rng on whether you get a bulk in your pool for that mission at all, since the 3 disruptive slots might get filled with something else, like how mine were warden/grabber/menace in stage2
taking longer makes you see more spawns, so increases the chances you'll see all 3 disruptives for that mission. I'd say on EDDs you're probably more likely to see all 3 than not, though on one of my stage1 runs this time I think I only saw warden and goo bomber
frozen field
how is anyone meant to beat this
we tried the elite dive last night
did not go well
wraith shard
did not go well
What was the Gunner shielding outside of the triangulation zone lol?
frozen field
i dont know he was the one with the whiny voice
he got a little upset after this mission
lol
cant blame him tho
love when the deep dive is haz 5 mule and egg hunt with elite enemies
wraith shard
I brought max. duration baby bubble, was worth every second during uplink.
I don't know many situations except for a bulk spawn where he should have not deployed the shield inside the triangulation zone where you were
not saying it was his fault lol. Maybe he went on reviving someone outside?
But looks bad
frozen field
wasnt his fault there were just a shitload of enemies
was a little impossible
this is what greeted us at the very beginning of the mission
glossy walrus
I found the uplink defense surprisingly comfy, but I had solo scaling and ntp, so much lazier in general
frozen field
ntp?
wraith shard
yeah, there was a pretty nice welcoming committee in the mini mule room cave lol
Yeah, cryo and ntp make this so much easier
glossy walrus
neurotoxin payload on gunner ac
wraith shard
You definetly want to bring enough aoe
glossy walrus
yeah I spent a ton of time in the cave fighting off normal waves from time, mule/leg spawns, and the egg swarm
then when I finally got around to uplink, it was very chill in comparison
wraith shard
I found the elite macteras more annoying tbh, felt low grav made it harder to dodge their attacks for some reasons
In the end we all got repeatedly grabbed by elite grabbers and taken for a speedy ride through the cave. They were so fast lmao
frozen field
uplink is always the worst whenever we do mule missions
glossy walrus
I'm scarred from long ago when an elite grabber repeatedly grabbed me through the roof of my underbunker, so having ntp this time around to make them slower made them way more managable
wraith shard
Understandable lmfao
glossy walrus
plus it seemed like the poison damage would occasionally be enough to have them call off their attack run even before reaching me
you had a driller around, should've made an underbunker if you were having issues above ground, that deals with most everything other than bulks pretty easily
wraith shard
uplink is always the worst whenever we do mule missions
That was the easiest part for us, but as said, we had massive aoe and cc builds
glossy walrus
oh, I guess other than elite grabbers going through the roof if it's too thin
gunner dropping a max duration shield off cd really helps take the pressure off
plenty of nitra this time too so can afford to be liberal with them
shut oracle
looks like u need a cryo driller and just freeze the whole area
id also dig the box and used supply drops down until they dont block ur way anymore
glossy walrus
yeah def dig used supply drops down, I do it on every class since it's just two digs to get it almost completely out of the way
shut oracle
u need every meter in that zone if things get tough
id also call supply drops outside
any form of cryo (nade/zhukov/cryo cannon) or lure grenades can give some breathing room too
chrome forge
we tried the elite dive last night
Got to the second stage and died 3 times at the last 40 seconds of the pod booting up its brutal
chrome forge
Our strat was to rush the Dreadnought on Stage 1 first thing before even collect...
Did you run a full team? 1-4 dwarves?
frozen field
Got to the second stage and died 3 times at the last 40 seconds of the pod booti...
Yep every time
frozen field
Elite dives always have a fucking mule mission
chrome forge
If you have an engi with em discharge it works well
I ran that build for the first time it worked well until the very end
wraith shard
Running with 2 seems manageable me and this gunner almost did it
2 players is definitely easier than 4. Can reccomend if struggling
dreamy dragon
Okay. I been seeing this a lot. Something must be up with EDD stage 3
I'm telling you dude, the extraction in stage 3 was harder Than the rest of the edd lmao
jade tusk
Got to the second stage and died 3 times at the last 40 seconds of the pod booti...
The best advice is once the pod starts booting up is attempt to leave the area for the boot up sequence
Because you don't need to be in a confined area any more
And once the pod opens up. Make a rush at it or hope the scout grapples into it. If push comes to shove and you die near the pod. IW into the pod
glossy walrus
if you have a gunner around, can also abuse those shields off cd to get 10s+ off the timer in relative safety every time
shut sierra
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817560792840929350/949529947012227152/a_f...
going near a mini-mule spawns a swarm
also, digging out one of the legs also does
frozen field
Interesting
jade tusk
One of the many hidden mini swarm triggers.
jolly hazel
did anyone else notice
almost zero mactera stage 1
then almost a quarter of enemies were mactera stage 2 and 3?
waxen terrace
i didnt really notice the macterras in stage 3
delicate dagger
neurotoxin payload for this week's EDD made everything much much easier
also the fact that nearly all the objectives were centered around swarm spawns made handling them alot easier for my team
just paint the toxin a few times in a crowd and let the rest die off
keen phoenix
really need a gunner for EDD, can anyone join?
austere oasis
really need a gunner for EDD, can anyone join?
still need?
main geyser
what does it mean to promote a character?
shut sierra
Get to rank 25
You'll stop getting experience for that character and unlock a promotion assignment
Finish the assignment, then go to the hall to the promotion terminal
Pay for the promotion, and your character rank will be reset with a promotion rank increased
main geyser
thanks
shut sierra
(there are 18 promotion ranks for each character, you can continue promotion afterwards, but the border won't be different)
You have to promote to continue progressing on that character, rank wise
So I'd suggest playing a different character until you finish promoting the character that needs such
And you do not need to play the character you're promoting during the promotion assignments
main geyser
I just started the game ive only done 1 mission
shut sierra
Deep dives are end-game content
Don't worry about them until you promote your characters
main geyser
thank you
shut sierra
Yeah, np
Here's what you should focus on in the meantime
Do assignments, missions with minerals for upgrades you want, then milestones for perk points
main geyser
I started with a friend but he logged off if i keep unlocking missions will he progress with me or stay behind?
shut sierra
Well, focus on assignments first
Since progressing on those (which are just missions) generally progresses milestones and resources
Dying does nothing, if the whole team dies..
Well, you fail the mission, unelss someone's running a certain perk
Make sure to check out all the classes, it's good to learn how each works
shut sierra
Combat wise, gunner and engineer are generalists, and driller's CC focused, and scout's an anti-large class
I heard it's hard this week
wraith shard
yeah it's aweful
i'm level 100 and was on a team of like level 200+ guys and we all got mowed down by BETC on level 2 in seconds
shut sierra
I might do it later, perhaps
I'm level 1080ish
EPC implosion is great against betc
so is the sludge-pump
Don't fight in a compact space, and always strafe perpendicular to her line of fire
wraith shard
bruh it's insane. THere's a bulk detonator, a big wave, and the boss is out
we're getting clapped
yeah we died
atomic prawn
Lol 40 seconds. Gg
main geyser
does friendly fire reduction stack?
slate knot
completed my first elite dive
the excessive amount of detonators on the first stage was hell
fiery dome
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/879172169094033472/949898193397743636/2...
We legit failed as could not reach it
no driller
upbeat geyser
that fucking edd drop ship spawn is so garbage
fiery dome
11milk cartons and njvodin threw
fiery dome
the 2 engineers had double their kills
lean lagoon
throwvakin
fiery dome
NJ throwdin
desert cape
Yeah that spawn was nutz, but it isnt so far away, you can make a tunnel to it.. we had no driller, but engineers and gunner took care of creeps while I was digging..
shut sierra
Always good to have all four dwarves
Though back in the day, the ultra tryhard meta was double scout double gunner
For shields and pheramones
Due to no-warning earthquake full team slows
dreamy dragon
Thankfully I had the good ol' clutch Rocky mountain. Otherwise we'd be screwed as scout/engi duo with 1 minute left to 3-hit dig my way through whilst also trying to not get eaten or shot alive.
shut sierra
Yeah, I heard there's a lot of weird spawn bugs this edd
With where the drop pod lands
jade tusk
Okay...Which one of you dwarfs popped all the balloons in the space rig to give us real bad drop pod spots in this week EDD
waxen terrace
engi in stage 3 dd was such a blessing
hoary grove
unkempt saffron
Huh never expected stage 1 of the edd to be more difficult than stage 3
jade tusk
Exploders do a good job
unkempt saffron
That, and the swarms were never ending
shy scarab
leaden cypress
Your choice ?
They give you matrix cores (blank, overclock & cosmetic)
If you don't need them, don't do DDs
wraith shard
That, and the swarms were never ending
Did you not do the dread first?
unkempt saffron
Aquarqs first
wraith shard
Ughh
Yeah, that sounds awful lol
So you had regular pe swarms, exploders and dread at the same time 
We rushed the dread first thing, by the time the first pe swarm started we were already done with it and collected enough nitra for a resup. Then we did aquarqs
chrome forge
Huh never expected stage 1 of the edd to be more difficult than stage 3
Stage 2 is the hardest I can’t get past it
scenic finch
Bunker boring, rock and stone is forever
lunar helm
Stage 2 is the hardest I can’t get past it
what class and what setup?
for stage 2 you need to beable to deal with the elites
jade tusk
for stage 2 you need to beable to deal with the elites
And dealing with the Local Bet-C
lunar helm
yea
jade tusk
You can avoid it
lunar helm
What part is giving you the most trouble?
jade tusk
Probably easier to fight it now than later
lunar helm
You can avoid it
once you unlock betc she helps out a lot tho
scenic finch
Uplink is rough
wraith shard
And dealing with the Local Bet-C
Depending on how many people you have in the team, the spawn position of BET-C might be different. We could skip bet-c entirely
scenic finch
once you unlock betc she helps out a lot tho
Helps tk maybe
lunar helm
In my game I placed a good shield that got Betc pretty easily
jade tusk
Bet-C is dependent on your team's status
wild sapphire
solo
lunar helm
Gunner is important for the uplink inEDD
scenic finch
Full team of gunners just spamming shields
I remember we did that once
Worked great
Normal haz 5 tho
jade tusk
Gunner is a pretty good choice
wild sapphire
does nitra carry on to the second stage
wild sapphire
ah ok
wraith shard
gl\
wild sapphire
ty
pure path
why the drop ship spawn for 3rd stage of edd so garbage
how do u even get to it other than mining
waxen terrace
driller
lunar helm
zipline
arctic comet
if nothing else, maybe only the scout gets out. If you have 4 engineers, well then...
have you ever been around a group of too many engineers? it's a real phenomenon.
jade tusk
And all 4 of them with fat boys?
radiant stratus
Anyone looking for DD? Same Steam name
wild sapphire
I COMPLETED MY FIRST DEEP DIVE SOLO LETS GOOOO
sick lake
Final mission on the deep dive--how do you handle a low O2 mission without molly? Never done one
round mountain
Put a few supply pods around to use as 02 checkpoints
sick lake
Lately been favoring my engie and driller. On engie i run dual turrets, shotgun turret whip and nuke GL. On driller Ive been runnin ice storm cryo and EPC TCF mining. Wife runs either DPS flamethrower driller or rocket launcher on gunner. Which comp has the best chances on this DD?
wraith shard
Anything works, but Cryo Driller + Gunner is a fail proof combo usually
sick lake
Cool, thanks!
small turret
ive never done a deep dive before
where can i join deep dives lol maybe a stupid question
wraith shard
where can i join deep dives lol maybe a stupid question
At the terminal next to the window on the rig.
If you mean wanting to join a team to run dds, we have different lfg channels to assemble a crew
#lfg-steam
#lfg-xbox-microsoft
#lfg-playstation
But you can also do them solo or with randoms. You only need to promote a class to unlock deep dives (and you can only do a DD with the promoted class)
reef bison
It's pretty easy solo anyway. Just upgrade bosco to give max revives and you should be good
I did EDD solo for the first time two days ago and I did it. Was difficult in first two stages but i did it
Normal deep dives are even easier
Like unless you're failing haz 3 missions then you'll be fine. Also try doing some haz 4s just to prepare yourself for the last stage as it can be more extreme than the previous ones
The truth is out there, and so is the gold.
stuck tapir
I was wondering about doing the EDD solo actually
This week seems like a fairly easy week compared to previous ones. I haven't had much luck with competent randoms
Does your Bosco reset after each stage by chance? @reef bison
I find for the first stage you almost have to get your 80 Nitra and just go for the dreadnought instantly. Every time I wait theres a massive horde to deal with alongside the dreadnought. They get worse as time goes on 🥲
wraith shard
Yeah, do dread first
So you only have to deal with some exploders instead of additional swarms
We didn't even collect nitra, first full ammo bag was enough
stuck tapir
Hell yea makes sense. We were almost at the unlink on stage 2 but the randoms kept going down and I was playing rescue the whole time just zipping around with my scout. Feel like a gunner would be good for that stage
I want to keep trying this one tho as it seems pretty doable. Anyone else looking to complete the EDD today?
Send me a DM or ping me here, ill be on in a bit. Any tips for scout build otherwise? I'm tempted to switch to my gunner be he feels so slow
stuck tapir
Oh baby!
Maybe solo is the way to go then
What class did you run for solo
I feel comfortable in my scout but that dreadnought scares me solo
I'll peep your vid if you link it
Did you run with a Drak?
I use my duely smgs just because there's so much ammo but they seem like pea shooters sometimes haha
Hmm ill have to look into those
Yea maybe that's my issue is my build is unbalanced
So it does actually scale with the people in there? Cause sometimes it seems like there's same amount 🤣
I'll try testing your build out
I'm comfortable with my build but I want to make sure I'm maximizing it
Pheromones?
Ahhh
Instead of cryo
Never tried it tbh
I mean I don't consider myself greenbeard new player but still fairly new to EDDs. Been trying it for a few weeks and only been able to finish 1 or so stages
I dont think ill test it for this one 🤣 we'll see how this run goes
thick fulcrum
This weeks EDD is really something isn't it
lunar helm
It's okay
stage 3 was over in 5 minutes or something for my team
Stage 2 was a rough one though
thick fulcrum
I solo'd it
lunar helm
and stage 1 is not that easy either
thick fulcrum
in stage 3 my drop pod randomly spawned in the wall
lunar helm
oh, solo is a completely different game
thick fulcrum
and stage 1 is not that easy either
agreed
thick fulcrum
oh, solo is a completely different game
I tried with a team let's just say we didn't make it past stage 1
thick fulcrum
also the BET-C really made my heartbeat go up
thick fulcrum
I actually find it easier with a team
there have to be people in the team that understand how teamwork works n stuff
thick fulcrum
Solo Bet-c is not joke.
I didn't knew where the beeping was coming from and when I ran into it it was to late
thick fulcrum
I got lucky with my team I suppose
you know how many matrix cores there are?
thick fulcrum
no I mean overall
lunar helm
It's probably on the wiki
lunar helm
Some people seem to find solo easier
some people were saying duos is the sweet spot a week or so ago
engie/scout I'd imagine
lunar helm
For my region the average haz 4 /haz 5 team is competent enough to win a mission 9 times out of 10
stuck tapir
That's nice
lunar helm
assuming the cave doesn't fuck everything up
stuck tapir
I had it happen twice where we were waiting for drop pod to arrive. And random called in a resupply pod with 10 seconds before the doors opened 🤣
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wraith shard
lmao
stuck tapir
on a deep dive?
On an elite deep dive no less 🤣
stuck tapir
Just finished an elite dive for the first time! We did it in duos and it was way easier it seems
Engi/scout
wraith shard
decided to do edd solo since i can't find any good teams
took me 24 minutes to do the first round lmao
nevermind this is truly impossible
too many bugs to handle even with the meta neurotoxin setup
white sandal
There is so much nitra. If you use engineer, you have distraction nades, if you play scout, you have cryo nades + the hook, if you play with gunner you have shield. This week's EDD is super doable
tidal spade
has anyone else got trolled by the drop pod on the last stage of the elite deep dive?
me and my friend just lost cause of that
i'm at a loss for words, lol
placid crane
I don't remember my duo run having a drop pod be in a bad location
tidal spade
i don't know how to explain it, but the drop pod was in like, behind a wall that we had to dig through cause we literally found no path in
we are gonna repeat it tomorrow however we're just gonna dig through the exact same spot so that shit doesn't happen again lol
we were doing so fine too, but that last drop pod screwed us good
also since im here already, what do you guys think is a good class duo combination for DD/EDD?
me and my friend were running driller/engie, but tonight we did gunner/engie and worked just fine too
austere oasis
Driller engie is good
Driller gunner
Also ok
Zips are really very convenient for aquarqs so it's hard not to recommend gunner for the duo for this edd
elder citrus
I get nasty drop pod locations in what feels like every other mission. Last week I took a video of one that landed on this tiny little protrusion from a stalagmite, and I only made it up bc I was Gunner and had zip with range extension and found an angle I could make.
stuck tapir
I was super worried about the stage 3 drop location based on the chatter here but it wasn't bad at all
Less than 100m and that last area is pretty open
frail plume
i just thought of the master plan for edd stage 1
bronze verge
Good News: I did not have the drop pod up in some weird crevice in the ceiling for the last mission.
Bad News: That's exactly where I had one of the liquid morkite geysers. I had to dig a big spiral through the outer wall up into the high ceiling. With low oxygen. As a gunner.
frail plume
rest of team fights dreadnought while i, scout, gets the nitra and aquarqs
haven't reached any other stage yet
wraith shard
True
waxen terrace
rest of team fights dreadnought while i, scout, gets the nitra and aquarqs
then watch as the dread suddenly aggros you and now your team has to chase it down
cursive lodge
Well 3 gunners makes stage 1 pretty easy
frail plume
then watch as the dread suddenly aggros you and now your team has to chase it do...
the dreadnaught is fast, but i'm faster
cerulean lichen
This weeks bottleneck is the 2nd stage, where you meet bet-c, everything else is quite easy
wraith shard
I was super worried about the stage 3 drop location based on the chatter here bu...
Certain locations (like egg location etc.) in DD and EDDs vary depending on the player number. I ran duo as well and we didn't have the scuffed drop pod landing either.
glossy walrus
some things can also be different between console and pc (cave is the same though)
eg I did solo ps, didn't see bet-c at all
stage3 pod was nice and out in the open too, just one zipline and some running away
wraith shard
eg I did solo ps, didn't see bet-c at all
Bet-C was not near any important locations on my stage 2, I could ignore her and save ammo not fighting her.
wraith shard
I am not sure if BET-C had a different spawn location for other team sizes/ on consoles. I ran duo
ebon anchor
muted knoll
Did Drop Pod spawn in a wall on Last Stage EDD this week? Couldnt find a way there even on Scanner
random rampart
Did Drop Pod spawn in a wall on Last Stage EDD this week? Couldnt find a way the...
Everyone reported yes to that
lunar helm
It didn't for our team but many people reported that it was
stuck tapir
Duos definitely seems like the way to go. Didn't run into the bet-c in stage 2 at all. Once you get passed stage 2 its pretty much home free.
cunning thistle
The bet-c didin't even get up. We just got into position and bursted it down in 0.5 seconds
lone kite
so bosco revives refresh between missions
im soloing my first deep dive and its surprisingly peaceful
stuck tapir
I was gunna go for it solo if we didn't have success with 2. But we went from the hellstorm thats 4 player to a nice calm relaxing 3 player 🤣
We also had rocky mountain which helped a ton with the aquarqs
frail plume
time for edd attempt 2
still gotta get good enough to be able to do elite deep dives consistently
dd's are easy
edd's are hard
btw isn't the dreadnaught supposed to stop swarms from spawning
jolly hazel
yes but thats only if its a primary objective
because its considered a secondary and the PE mission is primary, the swarms do not stop
lone kite
just finished my first deep dive (solo too) 💪
only downed once
jolly hazel
even the PE mini swarms
so
PE+dread secondary is particularly rough
in fact I think its the worst possible mission combination
outside of modifiers
stuck tapir
Yea, we just instantly went for the dreadnought so the swarm is just spawning or we just get the mini swarm. Whenever we waited it was way too hectic
Doing EDDs consistently would be nice, before I was just happy to get the blank core in stage 1 🤣👍
jolly hazel
without a friend group, it can be frustrating
stuck tapir
Agreed. Randoms can be frustrating as well
stuck tapir
Yea we had a very smooth run yesterday in duos
Another great tip is to dig a semi circle into the rock at the uplink. Helps protect you from spitters and menaces while you're holding down that spot. Use those distraction nades and cryos if you get overwhelmed. By stage 3 we had like 400 nitra. We called them everywhere 🤣
frail plume
died at stage 2
stuck tapir
(We were engi/scout combo)
stuck tapir
died at stage 2
Yea theres a ton of enemies in that 2nd area after you drop. Like 3 grabbers just on the way over...sometimes they're elite and carry you off so quickly
frail plume
yeah lmao
we got 2 elite grabbers at the start, scary shit
but i made the mistake of going at the center of the big room to kill naedocyte with m1000
and i died
and soon after 19282717272 enemies swarmed everyone
stuck tapir
Hahaha faack. Hey making it past stage 1 is a start!! Keep at it!! I'm going to be trying more runs all the way till turnover. Still need that 45 min trophy too. Might try to knock that out on the DD
Theres also 2 cave leeches in that cave. Got screwed by that guy before 😅
jolly hazel
Another great tip is to dig a semi circle into the rock at the uplink. Helps pro...
yep that's the driller tactic /no driller tactic lol
also making an overhang with bug repellent platforms
stuck tapir
When we did it first time the driller exploded the whole side and opened it up way too much. Ended up being our demise. Gotta watch having too much overhang with low gravity too
Its way too easy to jump outside the circle or just start shooting each other when there's 4 people...or the classic cluster grenade in the middle of your whole team 🤣
stuck tapir
Yea I usually don't mind it but wasn't a fan with this set up. That 2nd stage was definitely hardest
jolly hazel
ya
all rng on what elites u get too
plus radioactive zone
so you can get an elite praetorian sprinting at you to nuke the entire cap circle
God forbid two or an elite bulk
stuck tapir
We got a lot of elite grabbers and a few elite menaces.
jolly hazel
elite menaces are rough if u don't have minigun gunner or m1k scout
annoying
elite grabbers are scary the first few times
then I am glad it was not an elite praetorian or something worse
coarse inlet
Guys, anyone else getting a crash when they repair the bet-c on edd stage 2? i got it twice now
stuck tapir
I avoided that Bet-C like the plague 🤣
coarse inlet
yeah i think i'm gonna do that now lmfao
as soon as i was about to finish the repair, my game crashed, twice, at the same spot
bet-c cursed me
shut oracle
we died stage 1 edd i stressed for dread but they said chill
then i rezzed them 5 times but 2 left
was on scout so couldnt clear whole swarm while fighting dread
blazing jacinth
I did my first deep dive the other day and hated that final stage
stuck tapir
The low o2 one? Yea that one is no fun. Hopefully you have lots of nitra for pod checkpoints
jade tusk
There's plenty of Nitra to be found....But being the Dense Biozone. I wouldn't be surprised if you came into stage 3 with barely enough Nitra for the minimal 3 resupply pods near the pumpjacks
wild sapphire
i hate low o2
stuck tapir
I think the DD had lots of high up nitra so hopefully you have a scout
jade tusk
Depending on the mission type and cave generation. Low 02 is either a minor annoyance at best or a possible run killer at worst
stuck tapir
With pod checkpoints it wasn't too bad on this one. But some missions force you to stay close
jade tusk
As long as your driller knows how to drill. Stage 3 of DD is pretty sane for pumpjack above the refinery
ashen veldt
Guys, anyone else getting a crash when they repair the bet-c on edd stage 2? i g...
I was fine with her. Try the good ol verifying your game cache thing and see if that helps any
scenic finch
If one more elite grabber ends my uplink as scout I will eat my own keyboard.
wild sapphire
As long as your driller knows how to drill. Stage 3 of DD is pretty sane for pum...
i was not sane during that stage
took me 40 minutes
rapid quail
WHY? DOES? THE? EXTRACTION? POD? LAND? WHERE? ONLY? MOLLY? CAN? GO?
jade tusk
Allow me to introduce you to the small 1x1 hole in the ceiling that happens to be the shortest route and Molly goes through said hole
wild sapphire
WHY? DOES? THE? EXTRACTION? POD? LAND? WHERE? ONLY? MOLLY? CAN? GO?
because drg doesnt care about dwarfs they care about the minerals
hidden cobalt
Did my first attempt at a deep dive. Only had gunner and scout promoted. Third stage fucked me over. 😩
hoary crag
I have not done one yet. But am looking forward to it.
sullen brook
Playing EDD was a mistake
The leap in difficulty is very visible compared to a regular DD
peak geyser
Playing EDD was a mistake
it's harder but barely a mistake. Even in you can't complete it you still get a core for each cleared stage.
peak geyser
it sounds like the dreadnaught made the mistake of getting in your way
sullen brook
it sounds like the dreadnaught made the mistake of getting in your way
Stage 2 is just a swarm fest
We dont have a driller….
shut sierra
Only class that can come close to driller's crowd control/crowd clear is gunner with neuro-payload or other similar OCs
(Carpet bomber, frag missiles, plasma bursters?, etc.)
Neuro-payload is gunner's best crowd control option
Or magic bullets (with neurotoxin/aoe)/electro-minlets if you want it on your secondary
vocal compass
karl was the first steve that compleated a edd alone
blazing jacinth
The low o2 one? Yea that one is no fun. Hopefully you have lots of nitra for pod...
Yeah we had to dig a massive tunnel in the wall and the bugs nearly killed us. It was just a scout and an engineer
brave trout
Looking for people to go elite deep dive
shut sierra
Looking for people to go elite deep dive
Post in #lfg-steam
Or whichever LFG channel is applicable
shut oracle
stage 1 edd is intense if u need to long for dread, didnt have problems with the other 2 stages
but had a very intense haz5 doretta mission in weekly core hunt, exploder+cave leech cluster
also 2 bulk spawns and ton of mactera
wraith shard
Why are salvage stage edds always the worst
Literally I’ve thought back a lot, and every one of my hardest edd stages ive done were salvage stages
Absolute worst being one in hollow bough that had 2 or 3 breeders, many spawners and swarmer infestation, and one in the salt pits where theres a dreadnaut hiveguard right out the gate and I think exploding bugs, specifically, had like zero nitra on that edd for some reason
had to do the edd today and barely managed to clutch that stage lol and of course it was salvage
waxen arrow
shut oracle
i always suffer the most on doretta missions, if random crap adds up things can go rly bad
if u kite away they destroy it, if ur last alive u can choose between repair and go rez
wraith shard
Escort missions can be bs at times but if everyone knows what their doing, unless she parks next to a korlock or you hit a prospector mid swarm (or Karl forbid both) u can get boned
shut oracle
we had doretta go nearly straight up once with no chance to follow in mid swarm
wraith shard
Salvage is a different beast because a bulk can spawn, and you either have to freeze it or hope your gunner has a shield ready, and you cannot kite at all, and mission gen usually has you right up against the cave wall (and the wall of the droppod) where bugs love to crawl down from
shut oracle
at least driller can modify terrain to have the maximum space
also dig down old supply pods and the box itself gives some extra space to use
but yeah sometimes shit gets intense, but freezing, gunner shields and lure nades help a bit
wraith shard
All im saying is that ive done 90% of my edd doretta missions with not much a hiccup, salvage? Fr even if everyone is very experienced theres a lot of ways it can go very very sideways very very quickly, dorretta has a moderate hp pool and you can leave here, if you leave the salvage zone for even a moment the charge speed slows to a crawl, or even goes in reverse if no one is in it
shut oracle
tbh didnt have many bad doretta situations in edd, worst ones always were double modifier haz5 missions
also could always cheese it by dig a hole down and close it with platforms
shut oracle
but always also dig some meters to a side for emergency 😂
wraith shard
Also bunkering will make a bulk problem even worse most the time, and always on haz 5 theres a coin toss wether you get one or not
shut oracle
yeah id also wouldnt advice to have all 4 bunkered
there is always a possibility for explosion
wraith shard
If im playing with randos on edd which is most of the time
Im not gonna rely on their driller to know what to do if a bulk breaches the bunker
Or even gunner forgetting he has a shield
Most bs with dorretta is either
A: cant find oil shale
B: bulk spawns
C: bullshit miniboss spawns (prospector, bet c, or korlock, I guess dreadnauts too but im not sure ive never seen it happen)
D: very rarely you can’t find enough nitra or the secondary and the host refuses to start the event and 5 miniswarms pop up while you search
Most the time A is just a matter of time, and you just have to eat one swarm, maybe 2 if its really bad, then be on your way, and B the old gunner shield or cryo or literally kite it away then blow it up regularly
shut oracle
we had doretta driving into like 100 exploder shrooms once, all 4 on it dead and 1 side destroyed 😂
never been more thankful for having iron will
wraith shard
Gotta watch out for the shrooms braw fr had way too many close calls with doretta plowing right into them
shut oracle
also dont stand on doretta if its cave leech cluster, had some lotr watcher flashback when it broke into 2nd room and 5 arms came down 😂
boreal ginkgo
quick question, how much more xp/credits does an elite deep dive give compared to a normal deep dive?
shut oracle
idk but for xp/credit grind id do normal missions anyway
edd is for challenge and overclocks
boreal ginkgo
Okie dokie
reef crystal
I wanna do my first deep dive solo for fun, what should I know about Deep Dives before I actually dive in?
frail plume
if you can consistently do a haz 4 you can do a deep dive
3 missions in a row
minerals are shared between missions and there are no machine events, crafting materials or special stuff like prospectors.
get all the nitra you see, if you don't deposit minerals before going in the drop pod you'll still have them in the next stage
reef crystal
I haven't done Haz 4s often, mostly because the commitment to strategy is higher with Haz 4 and it's more fun with allies anyway.
Are all Deep Dives basically locked to Haz 4 difficulty?
waxen olive
It works like this;
Normal deep dives, per stage, are haz 3, haz 3.5, haz 4.
Give or take.
EDD's are haz 4, haz 5, haz 5.5.
Even EDDs are very doable for greenbeards so long as you have a good team.
waxen terrace
pubbing DDs is also really easy
waxen olive
I've only ever pubbed DDs and EDDs.
I think I've only ever lost 2 or 3.
Most of the folks playing them know what they're doing.
reef crystal
So what makes DDs worth it compared to normal missions?
waxen terrace
overclocks
reef crystal
Ah so that's where you farm them?
waxen terrace
yea theyre the only way to get them besides the weekly core hunt
waxen olive
They're worth it for that, and for the huge credit payout.
Normal DDs regularly pay 14k+ credits.
EDDs are closer to 20k.
shut oracle
1 empty core, 1 weapon oc and 1 cosmetic oc per week from dd, edd and weekly core hunt
shut oracle
each
waxen olive
It's a totally viable strategy to just speed-run DDs for the credits.
waxen terrace
keep in mind there are no ores besides objective based ones
or machine events/rivals
reef crystal
Oh so I can't get any Pearls, Umanite etc?
waxen terrace
no
reef crystal
Not even gold?
waxen terrace
there are gold veins but nobody mines them unlesd theyre memeing in DD
waxen olive
Yep.
waxen terrace
in EDD you have to kinda skip the gold veins cause you dont want to stay in 1 stage for too long
waxen olive
^
You want to be very fast in EDDs or they'll just burn through your ammo from the huge swarms.
shut oracle
theres a betc this week but cant remember if it was dd or edd
reef crystal
Ah, so mission first
waxen olive
It's also important to note that the difficulty can vary WILDLY.
Some EDDs are a cakewalk.
Others are hell. Actual hell.
shut oracle
we only struggled in edd first stage, if ur too slow on dread it gets painful
waxen terrace
check the pinned msg for this week's rotations
waxen olive
I'm talking like 3 huge swarms in a row, 10 acid spitters and 3 grabbers.
shut oracle
never ending swarm
waxen olive
Sometimes EDDs just want you dead.
waxen olive
EDDs can also be very calm.
Honestly, the thing that usually makes them hard is the environment.
shut oracle
yeah betc kept ff me while i tried to drill frozen grunts
waxen olive
If the terrain is bad, surviving becomes much more difficult.
waxen terrace
yea environment and nitra makes it hard
reef crystal
I presume this means I shouldn't try to level classes in DDs
waxen terrace
this week's one is one of the easier ones provided the team isnt dumdum
shut oracle
normal dd is pretty easy
waxen terrace
you can but you need a promo to even do DDs anyways
shut oracle
but id get a team of 4 for edd if ur unexperienced
reef crystal
Like I'm talking less than promo level classes
waxen olive
I presume this means I shouldn't try to level classes in DDs
Not a great idea, no. Have a firm grasp of how to play every class first and have them all equipped decently.
waxen terrace
^
reef crystal
Only my Engineer is decently decked on cause he's the one I promo'd
waxen terrace
yea you cant bring the other 3 classes then
shut oracle
id just get into a public dd and give it a try, just plan in that it can take an hour
waxen terrace
and engineer tbh is one of the key slots in EDDs with his swarm control
waxen olive
Normal DDs usually take between 40 and 50 minutes. EDDs are more like 50-70 minutes.
waxen terrace
yea public DDs are easier to manage
reef crystal
Mm okay, maybe I won't do solo then
waxen olive
Well, solo DDs are much easier.
waxen terrace
solo to me is boring
reef crystal
I feel like I would need a bit more time before I try
waxen olive
Since the spawns are smaller and the bugs are weaker.
If you're decent at the game, soloing non-elite DDs isn't hard.
shut oracle
Normal DDs usually take between 40 and 50 minutes. EDDs are more like 50-70 minu...
needed nearly an hour for dd this week cause the 3rd pump location sucked and driller wasnt motivated to make a tunnel
waxen terrace
and this DD stage 3 kinda needs an engineer
waxen olive
needed nearly an hour for dd this week cause the 3rd pump location sucked and dr...
Pain.
The one up top, right?
I hate it when they spawn in bad locations.
reef crystal
I hate when pumps are on elevated locations
Especially high angle elevations like on the side of cliffs
reef crystal
Wait DDs are same for everyone?
waxen terrace
yes theyre the same for everyone
reef crystal
Including the map generation?
waxen terrace
yes
shut oracle
it took like 1min the moment driller was fine with digging
waxen terrace
refinement at low o2 can be cancer if you dont watch the oxygen
shut oracle
but we spent 15min trying to make it alternative
waxen olive
DDs change every week, but any given map stays the same for that week.
So if you lose one, you'll at least know what to expect if you try again.
reef crystal
Huh so that's why #deep-dive-speedrunning exists
waxen terrace
thats just a screenshot flex channel
reef crystal
Lol
reef crystal
Anyway, thanks. I'll probably try to do one tomorrow, I couldn't bother to get on my laptop to clock in for my shift as a man of slight height discrepancy
waxen terrace
weekly assignments reset on thurs
so ideally you wanna do dds and edds before thursday
reef crystal
When you say Thursday, you mean Ghost Ship local time Thursday right?
waxen terrace
11am UTC each thursday for reset yes
stuck tapir
It was a great EDD this week I thought! Only kinda tougher one was 2nd stage but really not too bad if you all focus on elites right away. We did it duos!
Hoping to try the sub 45 minute trophy for the DD this week. Got 45:55 last time I tried 😪
shut oracle
elite goo bomber
reef crystal
It was a great EDD this week I thought! Only kinda tougher one was 2nd stage but...
That's...7pm for me
waxen terrace
yes yes it is
reef crystal
Also god damn it wrong quoted
stuck tapir
especially stage 3 pumpjack's spawn
That was the only stage that really slowed us down. We had 21 minutes to finish it...we did it in 22 haha
And it was only that 3rd pump jack. But now that we know where it is we can save time for sure. We battled 2 waves building that stupid thing first time 🤣
stuck tapir
5 elite grabbers.
I only had 3 haha but a few elite menaces too
waxen olive
The damn things move so fast that they clip through the walls.
waxen terrace
edd stage 2 bunkie
stuck tapir
Yea they can carry off team mates pretty quickly 🤣
jade tusk
This is why Driller needs to stick C4 onto dwarfs. So if a Elite grabber yoinks someone. You can blow them up and kill the grabber!
stuck tapir
Hahaha sacrifices need to be made
jade tusk
It was a necessary sacrifice for the survival of the team high council of drillers
stuck tapir
Damn drillers 🤣
jade tusk
We're but simple dwarfs. We drill holes, Burn/Freeze/Corrode bugs, and make big fucking holes. We only ask is that you stay out of the splash zone when we work
Or you may wake up to a few ||hundred|| C4 charges by your sleeping pod
karmic fjord
Hello! Anyone willing to help me get the 45 min. Deep Dive trophy? I main the engineer and know what to do with 3rd pump in stage 3
I’m on PS4
sly aurora
That third pump jack was insane. Luckily if you have enough nitra you can place resupply units part way towards the Jack's. Im surprised I managed to do it solo with driller.
bronze verge
This is why Driller needs to stick C4 onto dwarfs. So if a Elite grabber yoinks ...
I did that to myself, actually. You'll never take me alive!
west merlin
How painful is the 1st stage EDD? Looks pretty bad but I guess better than having it on stage 2 or 3
stuck tapir
Id say first stage isn't bad if you go straight for the dreadnought @west merlin i found the 2nd stage to be hardest but wasn't too bad with the right set up. We knew the spawns pretty well so the worst part was the uplink
Nothing a hole drilled in the wall can't fix tho 👍 at least protects you from menaces. Watch out for those elite grabbers too as they'll snatch you up in a hurry
west merlin
I did that to myself, actually. You'll never take me alive!
If you see the grabber coming you can just shoot it in the face
Something like the 3rd has 4 mission I ever played was exploder infestation with dreads (or maybe swarmageddon with dreads) which traumatized me for awhile but I guess that's not so bad when you're better at the game even at higher haz
stuck tapir
Yea and we did it duos so the dreadnought health wasn't bad at all. Killed him before first swarm
bronze verge
If you see the grabber coming you can just shoot it in the face
My problem was that I already had the charge in hand and the thing was right on top of me
west merlin
I probably won't have time to play anyway (I work today and tomorrow and have the 3rd core hunt and both DDs left) but good to know
west merlin
My problem was that I already had the charge in hand and the thing was right on ...
Makes sense. Did it kill the grabber instantly?
bronze verge
Yes, and almost killed me starting from full shield
old widget
Hello! Anyone willing to help me get the 45 min. Deep Dive trophy? I main the en...
post in / check #lfg-playstation
west merlin
Yes, and almost killed me starting from full shield
I didn't know you could survive a c4 at all actually, I always run like 15 meters away before detonating
I guess I've never set one off in my face while at full shield, only while panicking
bronze verge
I didn't know you could survive a c4 at all actually, I always run like 15 meter...
I wouldn't recommend trying it. I think it was Hazard 3, and I don't know if it's survivable at higher
What really surprised me was surviving a fat boy to the face
plush stump
How painful is the 1st stage EDD? Looks pretty bad but I guess better than havin...
For me the most painful was the second stage, I was playing Engineer with my friend Scout and we managed 1 staged pretty well, the most problems we had with 2 stage
sacred rover
What really surprised me was surviving a fat boy to the face
it does 315 damage whitout damage mods, and (i think it was gunner) has 50% explosision resistance in his armor, so yeah its survivable as long as frendly fire damage multiplier isint above 1.
bronze verge
Good to know in case some other random keeps cutting right in front of me
haughty raven
hey is it normal that dotty doesnt explode after the mission?
wraith shard
hey is it normal that dotty doesnt explode after the mission?
Wrong channel, but yeah. That's a known bug. Her head should still be somewhere around the area. It just looks like she still has hers
haughty raven
ok thx
tulip idol
I played badly with 2 greenbeards and scout who had slightly above 0 awareness and we still won this edd
I died only 2 times - one when I killed leech above scout and he said there's another one and I kept looking for it despite I waked up spitballer earlier behind me who shot me cause I tried to focus up on finding that imaginary leech
and another case is when I traded for gunner and immediately popped SYIH, somehow they figured out to ress me near the end of SYIH effect although I was calling it via voice chat.
On the second stage scout offered smth like to close up in a bunker or make bunker with direct tunnel... I asked how r u gonna kill oppressors? I don't wanna risk. He kept arguing that oppressors won't come to us. He said he handled that this way many times and it was fine. I was like... oh really? I say we have greenbeard driller with flamethrower against elite enemies and oppressors. Smh he acknowledged that information only on my 5th try and he was like oh you're right I forgot there are elites and crspr driller...
So I built a ceiling and it was pure chaos, there were tons of enemies in circle and gunner wasn't throwing shields unless I was making big shouts via voice chat. And they were coping well - it looked like they friended bugs in circle or smth, I kept going outside of it and spamming Discharge (though I placed it on the opposite side from where enemies were coming) but mates were fine smh. However, while the pod powered up enemies were crawling all over the place - on my platform ceilings, on the floor... Greenbeards died but we've been holding out with scout fine cause of low grav but scout still died in the end, he also attempted IW ress and failed.
So yeah, if I can survive and do the objectives in such circumstances... in such chaos that edd can't be called elite lol
old widget
Elite Death Dodging
agile bronze
How many times did everyone fail the EDD this week?
tulip idol
You should be fine if you know what you're doing
stuck tapir
I failed it probably 3 times before passing it
Silly mistakes tho. And randoms screwed us in the other ones
digital chasm
I failed the standard deep dive because the refinery pipeline decided to do a little trolling
jade tusk
My general EDD failures usually fall under the following
- Bad swarm spawn
- Teammates and I failed at awareness 101
- Spitballers
- Greenbeard's first EDD and goes full lead beard
- Lead beards
frosty isle
Anyone want to play deep dive
plush stump
How many times did everyone fail the EDD this week?
one
Was the first EDD that we did with my friend
ashen veldt
Found this week's EDD really easy with the two extraction objectives. Not everyone got out, but scouts almost always do
lunar helm
My general EDD failures usually fall under the following
- Bad swarm spawn
- Tea...
what do you mean by lead beard?
patent cliff
My general EDD failures usually fall under the following
- Bad swarm spawn
- Tea...
What's a leadbeard? I can guess from context, but first time I've heard it in 500 hours
patent cliff
How many times did everyone fail the EDD this week?
0
jade tusk
Lead beard being a term of "Dense player that refuses to listen"
patent cliff
The only real excitement was when our engie went a little nuke crazy at point blank range
jade tusk
The only real excitement was when our engie went a little nuke crazy at point bl...
Not my fault a damn swarmer pulled a "MISTER PRESIDENT GET DOWN" on a group of bugs that's perfect for a fat boy surprise
patent cliff
For him it was a trijaw coming through the roof
I think that scattered him a bit and he just started popping off
Idk, rando group so I wasn't in voice with him
But I saw the first trijaw get yeeted about an inch from his face
Fuck trijaws btw
jade tusk
Tri-jaws fall under the "Shoot on sight" category for me. Those fuckers can and will shotgun you. I seen dwarfs go from full to swarmer love tap instantly
patent cliff
The problem is really trijaws that spawn on top of you through the ceiling and blow you away immediately. That's the bullshit I hate.
Trijaws I know about are still a big threat but not as bullshit.
jade tusk
Let me one up you. A swarm of Tri-jaws the exact moment you use a zipline. No matter the reason. Enough Tri-jaws will show up so no matter what. You will be falling down
agile bronze
Found this week's EDD really easy with the two extraction objectives. Not everyo...
Wow y'all some real killers lol. I've failed 6 times. 3 just from the host quitting after 15 minutes in the first stage. I really need to stop trusting randos with no mic on the EDD.
coarse lantern
playing edd is so fucking frustrating with how many people clog up the lobbies having no freaken sense of survivability. played this week 4 times now and haven't passed the 1st stage. each time my teammates get downed like 15+ times collectively before i even get downed once, and when i do ultimately get downed the whole thing then immediately fails soon after
like this whole edd is like once you waste time tying to rez someone they ultimately are going to get downed faster and faster as the spawn speeds up
coarse lantern
i played this with driller most the times but also gunner, id prefer to play scout but i'd be doing more or less the same surviving a little longer before it all falls apart
glossy walrus
that's PE for you, and with this EDD being double PE, playing solo makes it comfier than ever
it's just so much faster for bosco to do PE than with most randos
I did it with solo gunner, was surprisingly comfy even if kinda hectic on the swarms in stage2
coarse lantern
ugh i didn't know there was another PE yeah i guess ill have to play this solo with how even public lobbies of haz 4 go to hell often enough. good luck trying to get a random lobby enough to go thru 2 pe
glossy walrus
hardest part of the whole thing for me was taking down the dread since I'm not used to doing them solo, but once that was done the rest of it wasn't bad
tulip idol
Lead beard being a term of "Dense player that refuses to listen"
Idk what you need to ask to make mates keep refusing
If they ignore/don't respond which is way more likely then it'll violate my only requirement - be able to respond
spring sandal
I don't think I'll manage to do the EDD. Regular DD was super easy, didn't get downed once. EDD I failed on the first mission twice after 95% completing it each time. Almost 40 minutes each attempt. I guess hazard 4 is my limit.
better than failing on the last mission I guess
tulip idol
Wow y'all some real killers lol. I've failed 6 times. 3 just from the host quitt...
I hosted myself and the first 10 mins of waiting for randoms I got only one guy who joined me with ok ping and immediately left although I had no clue who he was
And I was like so no one wants to do a deep dive? or mb I should've written smth like pls join I'll carry yo ass*s no problem
then suddenly I got 3 randoms in a row joining me within a minute, one of them even was rank 100+ experienced enough and was using mic so it was kinda what I really wanted - 2 randoms for difficulty and some other experienced guy to cover my sleepiness in case it'll matter (also I went engi so I didn't get to ress much nor go full hero mode like if I were gunner or scout)
it turned out one of our greenbeards was dying like every 30 seconds in the beginning (he was rank 18, understandable), our scout was feeding all the leeches and couldn't notice horde of enemies crawling to him while he was mining vein on platform, I was trying to tell him how to freeze dread - I said throw 2 cryo nades in a row - he almost got it but driller was heating dread so it didn't work anyways even when scout did it right, but at least he was calling leeches and other enemies very loudly while he was in spectator mode, he said I forgot there was this leech like it was not his first try at all, there was no way I would forget about that with his help, he even was excessively calling exploders behind me while he was down - at this point I told him you better copy yourself to have such guardian angel to protect you from awareness issues
and I was missing some easy hyperprop shots, overall using my equipment not really wisely
I also forget to tell greenbeards not to build commlink to 100% right away, I didn't forget to say not to wake BET-C while I'm far from her - they did it anyways tho just the moment I launched my last hyperprop round and had nothing to damage Bet-C with
greenbeard driller was doing everything you could expect from his lvl44 rank - including throwing detpacks on oppressors and dreads while I was going around them to land hyperprop shot, once I got scared so hard of his c4 into oppressor on pod powering up salvage stage that I even literally screamed NOO in voice chat 
at least he got most of the aquarqs himself and died only like 2 times less that our other greenbeard
I was really dropping down for ress mate after mate after mate with supply pods lol
spring sandal
now I see my problem, I have no idea what I'm doing
I guess if I want to get good at this game I need to learn in rather than just go off of my intuition
tulip idol
I don't think I'll manage to do the EDD. Regular DD was super easy, didn't get d...
you were surviving on PE for 40 mins? lol
spring sandal
35 and 37 iirc
tulip idol
you do it in team or what
spring sandal
solo miner
tulip idol
with bosco?
spring sandal
yeah
tulip idol
use bosco for mining aquarqs?
spring sandal
sometimes
tulip idol
he always has to dig smth whether it's nitra or aquarqs with mining mod
spring sandal
my issue was just the volume of enemies
didn't have enough time to focus on the objective
was just fighting all the time
tulip idol
also I use superthrow to speed up a bit
you can get gunner and just use bosco for mining it'll be fine
I'd go full speedclimbing with gunner
zip cheesing
spring sandal
also I use superthrow to speed up a bit
yeah I'm only level 18 or something so still have to get all the quirks I want
and miner is the only character I have levelled so far
tulip idol
rank 18 ? I mean you can see what I was writing about rank 14