deep-dive-discussion

[jolly hazel]

driller range becomes very acceptable with the fuel range OC

also

AOE gunner is godlike this week

1.3k kills, swarmers were never an issue

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[violet warren]

Wait, mission control is a robot, we need a funny nickname for it

[digital chasm]

mission control needs to stop eating the error cubes

[jade tusk]

Mission control needs to lay off the leaf lovers

[digital chasm]

he would have been such a great dwarf had he not gotten addicted to leaf lovers and error cubes

[cerulean lichen]

is there anyone who hasnt done the dives?

[jolly hazel]

probably

[rocky moth]

Can confirm, haven't done EDD yet

[amber pawn]

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[inland lily]

what is deep dives?

[wraith shard]

It’s 3 missions in a row and (I think) they rotate weekly

You get a overclock and matrix core from doing them

[coral raptor]

weekly 3 stage mission, refreshes on wednesdays (my time zone anyways), rewards a blank core, weapon overclock and cosmetic overclock for stage 1/2/3 respectively. Only accessible after promotion

[scenic finch]

Welp

Almost done stage 2, good nitra. Round ended by two trijaws in the wall

Yet they still could hit me

Thanks game ‘preciate it

[brave hare]

Alone ?

[amber fable]

Guys, how do i farm Enor Pearls in mass quantity? I'm always broke of it and can't upgrade certain weapons.

[halcyon zealot]

Go to sand land

[jaunty thorn]

Get salty my friend. And bring you kit for killing bowling balls.

[atomic prawn]

pick missions in biomes that have enor pearls as their primary resource

and definitely not deep dives 😂

[sullen furnace]

G'day bit new here im trying to see if some people wanna do some deep dives, ive never managed to finish one solo cause im a bit shit haha

[jolly hazel]

try a lfg channel

[jade tusk]

Or try your luck with randos

[patent cloud]

does anyone have any builds for the deep dives?

[old widget]

In general, use same build you use in Haz 3 missions for DD. It’s just three missions with a twist, there’s nothing fundamentally different in the gameplay or build requirements.

General advice for any class that isn’t scout - bring something for crowds and something for single target damage. (And if you’re a DPS scout, follow the same advice I suppose)

[jade tusk]

Would more recommend a build for Haz 4 over Haz 3

[burnt sandal]

There's a difference ?

[jade tusk]

More after first stage you play on Haz 3.5 which is a mix of Haz 3 and 4. So prepping more for Haz 4 sounds a bit better in my head

[tiny crow]

I did the haz4 trophies before the haz3 trophies because it absolutely destroyed my current way of dealing with enemies

Was always doing haz1-2 so the intense spike in difficulty created a lot of chaos and some deaths, but now I can actively survive and clutch solo haz4 even if everyone else died.

Except for dreadnaughts. My aim is not that good yet

[patent cloud]

okay got ya thanks still struggling with builds as I have only just promoted all my dwarves

[tiny crow]

I make my load outs as A- default for most missions. B and C for different primaries. D for dreadnaughts. And E for experimenting.

Experimenting could be an example of a shield disruption mission. You would want more health oriented perks and armor mods for it.
You also might want different primary mods for less friendly fire. I find the hazard warning difference warrants an actual load out

[jade tusk]

Loadouts are either different weapons or the same weapon with different overclock like my Engie's loadout is either Clean sweep, Fat boy, or Hyper

[sly aurora]

Anyone else having difficulty finding the 3 Jack's in the normal DD?

[jade tusk]

Not really. Use a combination of the terrin scanner, listening, and watching the ground. When you get close to a pumpjack you'll start to notice a black-ish tile-like covering on the ground

[jolly hazel]

I genuinely can't remember anything from the dd

but I can basically remember last weeks edd refining layout from heart

ohhh now I remember

one is near the minehead

one is in the adjacent room

and one is up

[old widget]

Haz 3.5 doesn’t change enemy resistances or eHP vs. vanilla Haz 3, so not really. Bugs aren’t quite as fast in 3.5 as on 4 either

Most newbies to DD probably aren’t running Haz 4 consistently anyway

[hallow minnow]

Forgive me but how exactly do i go about getting into a deep dive?

[halcyon zealot]

Promote a dorf by reaching 25, doing the assignment and going up to the hall terminal

Then go over by the molly in the space rig and there a bit terminal by the windows

[sage kraken]

Dorf

[glossy walrus]

do you mean the junk surrounding the geyser itself or something farther out?

if former you should've heard it long ago, latter would be interesting, never noticed

[jade tusk]

The junk around the geyser.

[jade tusk]

Adding to it. Deep dive and Elite deep dive. You require promoted dorfs to do them

[halcyon zealot]

Oh yeah. You gotta get promotions to do DD with dorf

They're a bit more difficult than regular missions, but if you've managed a promotion you're ready

[jade tusk]

Ehhh. I think DD are best done after some time after promotions. There's a difference between "When you should do it" and "When you unlock it". Every DD and EDD is different between the weeks.

[halcyon zealot]

Do em anyway, they're difficult but rewarding and a great way to help you progress

Obv do thing that is fun and cool, if you don't enjoy don't, but I like the intensity, and I'm not even good

[jolly hazel]

imo dd can be done immediately after promo, given average skill level

all it takes is one semi-decent player to carry a haz 3 lobby

nothing stopping someone from jumping right into edd though

just be prepared for failure and frustration if you arent up to snuff

[drowsy fable]

Also the 2nd and 3rd stages are basically regular missions only you should have a lot more nitra than usual

[jade tusk]

Another reason to hold off DD after the Promo is just so you have time have another dwarf on stand by to swap towards if the only dwarf you have Promo is taken.

[drowsy fable]

You could dodge that by being the team leader/host

[jade tusk]

Still doesn't help when other dwarfs roll in. I done a DD before as a Scouting party of 4 scouts. It wasn't fun

[drowsy fable]

Scout probably is the worst to have stacked, yeah. I'd think that despite all those setbacks, doing the normal DD for more overclocks would be well worth it

[jade tusk]

It's still worth it. Yes, but I feel it's better to hold doing it the moment you Promo your first dwarf to make sure you have a pretty decent grasp at DRG overall. Haz 3 isn't hard by any stretch once you get used to it, but complacent is asking for a swift kick up the ass in a hurry and I learned that lesson the hard way a few times

[jolly hazel]

if they don't have a promo'd dwarf or refuse to switch, "tough" and kick

[spiral panther]

For DD what does 1 2 3 mean?

Right now 2 is highlighted

[burnt sandal]

levels

[thorny geyser]

EDD with four scouts is amazing.

[jolly hazel]

4 bouncy ball splash drak with friendly perk would be funny

[scenic finch]

Normal dd is almost impossible to lose, I’d say a new promo player can do them fine.

[cyan quiver]

greybeards^?

[timber rune]

what is a promo player

[frail plume]

we beat the last edd first try somehow but this one 4 tries and still can't beat second stage

gonna wait for them to change i think

maybe one last try today

[unkempt saffron]

A newly promoted player

Once reaching level 25 on a single character you can promote them etc. etc.

[noble cape]

The current EDD can be pretty painful.
Stage one in itself can easily snowball into a bad situation.

[frail plume]

yeah

and the second is just never ending swarms

and a lot of bulks

[young lagoon]

i usually bail EDDs after second stage... don't wanna take another year off my life for cosmetics

[chilly wren]

I soloed the edd this week (also was my first edd) and swarmageddon wasn't kind

The gunner sheild saved me 6 times

[jade tusk]

Congrats on your first EDD and Solo run of it! Swarm spam is a big old AoE check of your gear

[chilly wren]

Thanks and no kidding

[jolly hazel]

solo, I hope?

[sonic anchor]

its about the fact that you beat something hard

and had fun

[jolly hazel]

ya it is technically the end game content

[tight quail]

this last mission is brutal when people start going down

[jolly hazel]

hope ur gunner is good

[tight quail]

not enough time in between waves to find nitra/rez and clear

[shut oracle]

died too at stage 3 edd when i playd scout, gonna give it another try on driller later

swarm is tough if ur scout and last alive

[tight quail]

it was me as engineer 2 gunners i somehow got 1 k kills and they were at 300. did not build for swarm 💀

[jolly hazel]

should be what scout is doing exclusively no?

oh no scout

or driller

hmm yeah that will slow down nitra acquisition

[tight quail]

naw it was spicy we only got that far because comms

[jolly hazel]

shitters

tbh

[shut oracle]

4 turrets seem nice though for swarm

[jolly hazel]

did they bring minigun or something

[tight quail]

haha yea

[jolly hazel]

on swarmageddon

😔

with 1 dread

[shut oracle]

ah 2 gunners i cant read ahaha

[tight quail]

they didn't know what was coming

[shut oracle]

i didnt know too but cant rly spec vs swarm anyway on scout

had zhukovs alrdy

[jolly hazel]

splash drak is ok

[tight quail]

aggressive venting is decent

[jolly hazel]

^

splash+venting for get the hell off me

[shut oracle]

ok i had m1k never bothered with others

[tight quail]

ima chill on this edd cant find solid team mates hahaha

[shut oracle]

rly hated to play scout until i got m1k

[tight quail]

scouts so fun ur pretty much untouchable if u dont mess up

[shut oracle]

that thing gives me battlefield flashbacks which i like

yeah love scout i can kite forever

[jolly hazel]

can always """vet""" the lobby but that is unreliable because of save editors and wildly inconsistent skill levels vs game time

[shut oracle]

dash after grapple perk is a lifechanger

[tight quail]

i play on psn so must people who are high level are no lifing it

[jolly hazel]

ohh

[tight quail]

unfortunately yea those 2 dudes were both silver gunners and their game knowledge and builds were lacking

[shut oracle]

yeah hard to find good players on playstation, i playd vermintide 2 on ps4

[jolly hazel]

honestly i couldnt imagine playing scout on ps4

[shut oracle]

maybe met 5 other players on highest difficulty

[tight quail]

vermintide on cata is pretty spicy

[jolly hazel]

need too much awareness and accuracy

[shut oracle]

yeah i playd cata solo cause didnt find many players on ps4 for it

[tight quail]

its not too bad ur just slower

haha u know becher chimp?

[shut oracle]

idk it was some years ago

[tight quail]

he introduced me to cata all he plays is vermintide and deeprock

[shut oracle]

but that sienna with firespear spec was op in cata

spear kruber too

[tight quail]

last time i played was grail knight came out

[shut oracle]

grail wasnt out when i playd

[tight quail]

i was a foot knight main

[shut oracle]

i playd first class on all

[tight quail]

a purist hahaha

[shut oracle]

shade was good but easy to fck up in cata

[tight quail]

yeah i only knew a few good elf players most people rush in and just died

sorry this was pretty off topic hahaha

[shut oracle]

can move to non drg chat

[tight quail]

true!

[marble veldt]

Welp, time to solo the EDD for the third time, hoping OBS behave as intended and gets all footage correctly

[halcyon zealot]

Nice, what time you going for?

[marble veldt]

I ain't speedrunning, just gathering footage for a future video

[young lagoon]

yeah

i'm not gonna bail if i'm playing with people

but i'm more of a take my time to explore the cave kind player, not really interested in grinding haz 5. it's like this game is two different games at once. which is awesome. anyway, i'm straying off topic

[neat charm]

can anyone tell me which support tools refill between stages, or is it all of them?

[chilly wren]

All, and single-use active perks

[jade tusk]

Active(Blue) perks, Bosco revives, Sentry ammo. They'll all be refilled on next stage of a DD and EDD. Only health, Ammo reserves, Nitra, gold, and whatever minerals from a hoarder carry between stages

[full geyser]

When are the next DDs?

[ebon anchor]

Thursday? I know for Asia at least

Probably early morning for you guys in UTC or the west

[latent panther]

Its always Thursday

For me its the afternoon but still Thursday

[old widget]

Not just sentry ammo, all support ammo. C4, shields, and flares all refill in between stages

[full geyser]

Oh yeah, i think its wednesday 6 am for me

[wraith shard]

TBH - I've ramped up to 100 level without doing a single DD session

I don't know, maybe DDs are not my target

[full geyser]

HOW

[full geyser]

Do you have like no overclocks?

[jolly hazel]

weekly assignments have cores

[jade tusk]

3 cores. 1 blank, 1 weapon, and 1 cosmetic. So 3 with a 1 possible freebie from Forge level up

[wraith shard]

Actually I have lots of them. It's just that I cannot really invest right now approx 1h into one game

I prefer to have 3x 20mins game instead of one string of 3 missions

[left sleet]

That sounds tough trying to get cores unless you've slowly throughout the year been playing to 100

It feels so slow trying to get OCs as a newer player

[jolly hazel]

simply speedrun the dives

🧠

[jade tusk]

I agree. It feels slow even if you do your weekly hunt, DD and EDD for the 9 cores

[wraith shard]

of course you gotta keep in mind the pain that can occur to you, known as "getting crappy overclocks for very good weapons", or the reverse, where you get the best overclock for the crappiest weapon

[coral raptor]

on the bright side, you'll pretty much always have things to farm for. Overclocks are amazing, but not necessary, which is a very nice thing about this game. Enjoy the journey, you'll eventually get all the overclocks you want

much better than running out of things to do imo

[opal kraken]

top kills is kinda expected as engi especially on swarmageddon

[oak owl]

this week's EDD is brutal. we got 4 bulks on the last stage, one of which spawned during black box

that + swarmageddon + seemingly much higher than normal numbers of mactera meant that even our pretty experienced team couldn't get past it, after exhausting all our iron wills

[jolly hazel]

simply do not get hit

carpet bomber AC took care of swarmers in my lobby along with competent engie

we got a bunch of bulks and menaces at the same time,

cryo maybe?

[jade tusk]

Maybe could got really bad swarm luck as well

[vast bluff]

Solo deep dive is a good idea right?

[jolly hazel]

yeah?

its scaled

[vast bluff]

I tried, I failed, turns out low oxygen, a glyphid oppressor and the wrong build for a glypid opressor are not a good mix

[jolly hazel]

shouldnt have to build for an opressor

because they spawn every mission

do you not have single target damage?

also low oxy is just stay near molly and spam c lol

[jade tusk]

Opps are very weak to melee attacks. If space and enemies allow it. Bait it into doing the stomp wave attack. Get behind it and slam a power melee attack into the glowing ass

If those aren't permitted. opps aren't the fastest so running away like a coward and engaging in a more favorable setup is prefer

[ebon anchor]

You guys got unlucky damn

I had 1 on stage 2 and another on stage 3. Did EDD twice, once with a friend and another to help 2 other slightly newer buddies

Bulk spawns not more than 3/4 in total for EDD

4 in one stage? Man that's seriously unlucky

If you don't have a cryo driller/scout with enough grenades, it definitely is a rough time

[jade tusk]

One random haz 4 mission I gotten 5 bulks before

So DRG RNG can sometimes be a nice juicy FU

[brisk pagoda]

ive had 3 during a single omoran fight before

[ebon anchor]

I had that happen as well, but was lucky cryo driller and cryo grenade scout was around

[warped rune]

throw shieldgen at bulk

or dotty

If you got big shield

[jade tusk]

Bulks never aggro on Dotty

Doesn't stop players who don't know that quirk to instantly lose a health bar of Dotty or fail the mission of at the final health bar

[warped rune]

But the other bugs do

[tame verge]

another thing is that when dotty hits 100% she is immune to all damage for 3 seconds, she can survive getting hit with a bulk blast if you time it right

[fallow niche]

just started stage 3 of the edd and it crashed

aaaaa fuck this

at least i got my... rewiring mod OC for the drak

great

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[wooden quiver]

i think mission control is actually just a malfunctioning bot. compromised by the rival company perhaps.

[jade tusk]

Time to place our guesses for what sort of fun tomorrow's DD is gonna bring

[wraith shard]

somethin ain't right here

[jade tusk]

Driller C4'd the Mission control room....again

[full geyser]

[urban hamlet]

My prototype malfunctioned

[jolly hazel]

didn't know this, thanks. i knew she was immune when she hit 0

[digital chasm]

Stop eating all the error cubes, leave some for us

[urban hamlet]

Comms are jammed up again
Leave Mission alone

[vale lintel]

she also seems to like to kill half the enemies around her when she loses a module

[vernal marlin]

just did my first deep dive

is mission control proud yet

[jolly hazel]

yes

[vernal marlin]

my dad still ain’t tho

[spiral panther]

This bots entire purpose is to malfunction and announce when the next DD will start

[random rampart]

but
but

COOB

[quaint flame]

what are the mutators for the deep dives this week?

[random rampart]

pinned msgs with the stages themselves

[scenic finch]

Mission control go home, you’re drunk.

[digital chasm]

how does he get drunk when all he drinks is leaf lovers?

[jade tusk]

Who says leaf lovers mug is just filled with something else

[soft token]

so whens the new deep dive drop

[jade tusk]

In a few hours. The scanners is currently searching the planet for new viable targets

And scouting APD "Bosco" scouting the many cave systems for what sort of threats lurk in those areas

[vale lintel]

all 🅱️urpuse drone

[marble veldt]

There it is, part 1 of a 3 part video
https://youtu.be/TqEfp_ZTZ-8

[marble veldt]

Part 2
https://youtu.be/JXnRD11MmW8

And Part 3!
https://youtu.be/4B8x095h_KE

[jolly hazel]

oh wow i didnt know bosco would pull eggs too

[marble veldt]

Anything that isn't a secondary objective (bar Gunk Seeds), Bosco can carry

That includes Doretta's Head

[jolly hazel]

hmm

[vale lintel]

Bosco can carry anything considered a heavy object. This includes Jadiz and Enor Pearl, obviously, as well as Gunk Seeds, Compressed Gold Chunks and Bittergem (and error cubes), as well as some more secondary things, such as Doretta's head or Fuel Cells, Transmitter Nodes, Kursite Chunks, and some just completely random things like Data Racks, Data Cells, Ommoran Heartstones, and indeed Mini MULE Legs and Alien Eggs.

[jolly hazel]

wonder if he carries the tritylite bombs lol

[vale lintel]

yeah he can carry nanite bombs

[marble veldt]

He does yeah

[jolly hazel]

lol what

i was half joking

[vale lintel]

and also explosives that jettison from the Rival Tech Shield Generator, which are functionally identical

[jolly hazel]

does he throw them too?

[vale lintel]

he'll throw them at you but not at the deposit no

[jolly hazel]

oh so he attempts to kill you

[marble veldt]

If you press X it'll throw them at you

That's normal behavior, except he has an explosive in his hands this time

And not a gem

[vale lintel]

that said, he can drop it on it if he decides to hover over it and then you order him to do something else, but I think having him shoot bugs is more useful

[jolly hazel]

which explosives?

i just learned about him being able to dig out aquarqs

[vale lintel]

when you hammer those batteries on said items, they eject, and the laser pointer designates them simply as 'Explosives'

[jolly hazel]

now i know he does it on eggs too

i guess that helps if my network shits itself

[vale lintel]

again, he can dig up anything you would carry as a heavy object

crafting minerals, Mini MULE Legs (he'll dig them up and carry them from where they're stuck), he'll pick up fallen gunk seeds though he won't break them, and so on

error cubes, gold and bittergem, nothing is safe from Bosco

[jolly hazel]

does he pop ebonuts?

[marble veldt]

No

[jolly hazel]

BOSCO

[vale lintel]

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[full geyser]

Wait the batteries are explosive?

[vale lintel]

yeah

[jolly hazel]

I dont remember having anything jettison

weird

[jade tusk]

Probably never pay attention to it

[olive whale]

How bad is this weeks deep dive? Is it doable for under 45 min for the trophy?

[night moon]

you mean the one from Hollow Bough?

I did it as my first Deep Dive with an experienced Driller and 2 un-cooperative players (Gunner and Engie)

we did it in 46 minutes

so if you have decent teamwork you should be fine

(Im a bit pissed off i didnt get the achievement, oh well)

[zinc thicket]

im trying it now with my gunner solo

at least the first mission's easy

[digital chasm]

just carried some greenbeards through the deep dive

they did well

[patent carbon]

New Dives <t:1645700400:R>

[jade tusk]

So take a guess. What sort of DD and EDD is gonna be in 9 hours from now

I'm guessing a pretty hard DD with little Nitra in the caves overall and EDD being pretty easy

[patent carbon]

my guess, edd will have a low o2 point exctrac with dreadnaught

[jade tusk]

As the final stage of the EDD with a very brutal cave generation where the blue Jadizs are far as fuck away from the minehead

[patent carbon]

pool together the most difficult combinations and that'll be the edd

there'll be a huli hoarder or two for that vote of confidence

[full geyser]

I failed my first EDD

It was the previous one

It was basically juns an hour of trading revives and running out of nitra

First was a misfire at a dreadnought during shield disruption when we just started and had 0 nitra

I cant even comprehend the second one

The third was all the swarmers and a seperated team

[jade tusk]

Guarded by a few spitballers, cave leech, and breeder support all out of view before it's too late

[zinc thicket]

i just watched a fight of the century, steve (grunt guard) vs an oppressor, steve whooped its ass

[jade tusk]

Guard steeve can survive some shit and keep on ticking

[jolly hazel]

I was told steeve can take on 2 or 3 opressors in a row

[ashen veldt]

This is true.

[soft token]

steeve still underpowered

needs buffs

[frail plume]

cryo minelets is very good for swarmers

can just shoot a line in the ground and they freeze and die

[maiden berry]

I love your pfp

[maiden berry]

yeah i wouldn't mind that

just like a minor health buff

[round mountain]

When a supply pod falls on steeve, it shouldn't kill steve... It should destroy the supply pod, just from how powerful steeve is.

[stiff vigil]

man finding a deep dive at this time of night is impossible

[opal kraken]

you shouldnt need nitra for that dread ngl

its in spawn room and you have full ammo for it

[stiff vigil]

man

2 people quit first elite deep dive and we still got to the 3rd stage before losing

[north urchin]

It doesnt matter how complex dense biozone is.. on complex level 2 its still a nightmare to traverse.

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[frail plume]

is it meant to be like this or is it bugged

[north urchin]

Its meant to be like this Mission control is a bit dumb here

[sly kettle]

He's been drinking that Leaf Lover for quite some time. Nothing to worry about.

[manic pivot]

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[topaz prairie]

👍

[sly kettle]

Its time.

Good luck, everyone.

[topaz prairie]

Thank you.

[woeful patrol]

Rock & Stone everyone

[north urchin]

Let's roll!

where's the event?

[quiet mortar]

DEEP DIVE
Region: Dense Biozone | Code Name: Meek Carcass
Stage 1: 2 M.U.L.E.s + 2 Eggs | Rich Atmosphere Exploder Infestation
Stage 2: 2 Dreadnoughts (Twins + Classic) + 📡 1 Black Box | Cave Leech Cluster
Stage 3: 6 Eggs + 150 Morkite | No Mutators

ELITE: DEEP DIVE
Region: Fungus Bogs | Code Name: Secret Killing
Stage 1: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 M.U.L.E.s | No Mutators
Stage 2: 4 Eggs + 2 M.U.L.E.s | Shield Disruption
Stage 3: Protect the Drilldozer + 2 Eggs | Low Gravity Swarmageddon

[wraith wing]

Finally, lore

[topaz prairie]

Rich atmosphere? Cool!

[wraith wing]

Rich atmo and even richer dwarves

[outer beacon]

Fungus Bogs can be a total dickwad with spawning points. I've had more than one game where it would just chuck me into a huge puddle of goo just out of the pod while everything was happening.

As in, 'oh god there's two spitballers, a cave leech and we're being swarmed by slashers and spitters'

[lunar helm]

Rich atmosphere
Exploder infestation

[uneven mountain]

Regular DD stage two: 2 Dreads, Black Box, Cave Leech Cluster. First dread is twins.

[woeful patrol]

Shield Disruption haz 5

[lunar helm]

Just like last week

[woeful patrol]

It was 4.5 last week so it was slightly better ahah

[outer beacon]

2 mules twice in a row, well, seems like we can be STACKED on Nitra.

[woeful patrol]

But you can argue that there is almost no difference

Why is there always shield Disruption for Karl sake

[lunar helm]

Karl is testing us

We must live up to his legacy

[outer beacon]

To remind bad Gunners like me that we have a shield, which I often forget I have.

[lunar helm]

Lol

Yea

When my gunner was still bronze i made that mistake too

[outer beacon]

Cave Leech Cluster

[woeful patrol]

💀

Bye Scout

[uneven mountain]

Second dread in stage 2 of regular DD is a classic dread.

[quiet mortar]

With Pleasure, I announce, double Doretta

[outer beacon]

Swarmaggedon on Dotty?

Doesn't sound too bad

[woeful patrol]

🤨

Okay, not doing the last stage of EDD lmao, not worth it

[quiet mortar]

To be fair, we've had worse lol, sucks for Speedrunners tho

[sly kettle]

Double Doretta in EDD, huh? Hard pass.

[lunar helm]

Ooooof

Not the double D i asked for

[jade tusk]

Man. Heart stones must be in high demand for this week's EDD 2 rounds of it

[lunar helm]

I hope there's enough nitra

[jade tusk]

At least low gravity does soften up the impact of Swarm spam a tiny bit

[north urchin]

2 escort? that's tedious...

[jade tusk]

Also Fungus bogs is gonna be brutal for shield disruption

[outer beacon]

What do you think R&D uses heartstones for?

[jade tusk]

How else do you expect they cover the cost of all the gear and ammo we use per mission

[woeful patrol]

[jade tusk]

WE'RE RICH

[outer beacon]

I don't think last stage is gonna be that bad, but we'll see.

[jade tusk]

It'll depend on how the cave generation goes

[uneven mountain]

Stage 3 of regular DD: 6 Eggs, 150 Morkite, no modifiers.

[jade tusk]

There's a difference between reading this on paper and boots on the ground

[outer beacon]

My concern is that I remember an EDD where Dotty just drilled through both eggs and just spelled death for us.

[jade tusk]

Crystal caverns and the modifier was Lethal enemies?

[outer beacon]

I think so, yeah.

[jade tusk]

Yeah. I remember that EDD very clearly because it took me 9 attempts to beat it

Once more scouting reports come in. I'll decide if this EDD is even worth doing to do 2 rounds of escorts or not. Nitra and how the cave hazards spawn is my big concern

[woeful patrol]

To be honest, a cosmetic isn't worth so much blood

[jade tusk]

My definition of complete is pretty loose. As long as I beat the 2nd stage for the weapon overclock. That's complete for me, but if I beat all 3 stages. That's a bonus and further progress in the forge for more freebies

[marble veldt]

Hmmm

[marble veldt]

I think I can solo that EDD

[round mountain]

Died on last stage EDD solo

I hate menaces on escort

[jade tusk]

Oof

Menaces suck on Escort if they're in the spawn pool for that round

[woeful patrol]

Should I go with Engi or Driller for the EDD ?

[jade tusk]

Depends on this question "Do I trust the rando more as an Engie or Driller"

When it comes to driller. If I want something drill right. I do it my damn self and be driller

[full geyser]

But the thing it

Nobody was prepared for it, and shield disruption

[woeful patrol]

I meant for doing it solo
I hesitate between Driller Cryo Cannon for the Escort Mission or Engi Breach Cutter/Fat boy

[jade tusk]

I assumed a group. Probably engie

[woeful patrol]

Yeah, I'm doing it with Engie right now and I'm at the last stage, don't know how it's going to be

There is a BET-C 💀

[full geyser]

Doesmt betC give a shamoogala of XP?

[woeful patrol]

The drilldozer OSed bet-C

[full geyser]

[woeful patrol]

The fricking BET-C just carried my ass through all the mission 💀

You are the best BET-C ever

[jolly hazel]

two escort edd

[leaden cypress]

lots of nitra

2 escorts

💤

[jolly hazel]

last mission i wiped twice in a row was a fungus bog escort...

reccomend against flamethrower this week

stupid poison plants poison explodes

[tulip idol]

I stick to Disperser Compound on escorts usually

[glossy dock]

By Fire Be Purged!

[spring rapids]

I think you can axe them if that helps

[chilly wren]

Wish I had disperser compound

Stuck with normal sludge gun for now

[jade tusk]

This EDD is Nitra beyond Nitra

On stage 3 my team had 700+ Nitra

[jolly hazel]

yeah u can but sometimes doretta cuts real close to them enough that you don't see em and then boom

[jade tusk]

Compare to other EDDs this one is pretty tame if you can handle double dosage of escort

[jolly hazel]

at least they are guaranteed 1 stops

how long did it take u

[jade tusk]

1:13:00 overall

[jolly hazel]

was that rushed

snoozer

[jade tusk]

We did some pre-drilling to scout out the rooms ahead of time

I was gunner in that with NTP Thunderhead and Elephant Bulldog

Merciful didn't got any bulks in my edd run as the Spawn pool was more clogged up with Wardens, goo bombers, menaces with the side of shellback

[jolly hazel]

well

warden/goo bomber/menace are the 3 "large" threats

or whatever

that the ai director is alotted

so probably no bulks in spawn pool

how was swarm density?

tough or manageable

[woeful patrol]

For doing it solo, it was okay
The first EM was very simple, not a lot going on
But the second EM was hell but thank god I got this BET-C who carried me

[jade tusk]

Manageable, but can go to hell fast

[digital chasm]

EDD has 2 drilldozers this week, thats 2 Dorrettas to save

[jade tusk]

Save Dotty for no bulk spawns

[full geyser]

That should be a featrue

[urban hamlet]

WHY DO I KEEP GETTING THEM THEN

[vocal saddle]

surprisingly not bad. Not sure if I just had good RNG.

[jade tusk]

I got very lucky with the spawn pool to not get any real "dangerous" enemies like Bulks and swarms spawns were pretty nice with no theme waves

[vocal saddle]

yea same

[jolly hazel]

pretty sure if people aren't complaining about getting bulks they arent in the pool

[digital chasm]

it doesnt matter what Hoxxes throws at you, you must save Dotty

[vocal saddle]

was very close to driving through an egg

[vocal saddle]

I couldnt save dotty the first time because I couldnt find her head. So I saved a mule leg instead

[jade tusk]

2nd escort might trigger the egg by accident during the drive by

[gaunt trench]

I had a mission where doretta killed a bulk. She lost one side though

[vocal saddle]

damn that sucks

have you ever had a drop pod kill a bulk?

[jade tusk]

But overall bring a fair amount of area damage for this EDD

[gaunt trench]

That too

[vocal saddle]

haha

[gaunt trench]

Coming out of drop pod in beginning in the biggest gold crater

[digital chasm]

I think if one of the repair spots is repaired to 100% she gets a short period of invincibility

[jade tusk]

3 seconds of immunity

[gaunt trench]

Ah, otherwise it would've gone really bad then

[jade tusk]

Sometimes it pays to FF Dotty just to repair her back to full

I give this week's EDD a 3/5 in terms of difficulty

[scenic finch]

Just me or does the edd look super annoying?

[echo iris]

yeah

[woeful patrol]

It is

[scenic finch]

Ill just bring ntp, that solves most of the drilldozer problems

[rose wedge]

When exactly do DD reset? I thought it occurred every weekly assignment reset

[echo iris]

mmh, every thursday

[sage kraken]

Oh c'mon
2 Drilldozers..

[rose wedge]

Is the timing a little different? Weekly assignment resets at midnight.

[digital chasm]

at least theres no low O2 this week

[wraith shard]

You ever just accidentally lob all your cluster grenades into your low health team that is getting swarmed by hundreds of bugs on the last stage of the elite deep dive and you get downed after throwing the equivalent of a thermonuclear bomb near your team, they survived the nuke but died after the dead bugs were replaced with alive bugs

This is from the last edd, not the new one that came out today

[soft token]

skill issue

[echo iris]

im pretty sure weekly core hunts and dd/edd rester at british midday, i may be wrong.

[soft token]

should’ve packed iron will

[jade tusk]

Ah yes. War crimes the overclock.

But NTP gunner is really nice to have for this EDD

[orchid jasper]

bruh where on earth is the black box in part two of the deep dive? I've spend 20 minutes running in circles

[jade tusk]

Use your Scanner. It'll show up and follow the path to it

If you have a driller. Drill directly to it

[orchid jasper]

thx. didn't know it showed up on scan

[restive trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476884458289758208/946444851447234571/Unbenannt.png

It wasnt all that bad.

[dusty meadow]

Finished edd, pretty uneventful. Bring some aoe for 3rd stage.

[outer beacon]

Nailed the EDD 1st try.

Thunderhead and regular sticky nade completely trivialize the swarmaggedon, plus you're on low gravity.

Also there's some VERY fat Nitra ores in every level, you should be stacked with it by the third stage.

[jade tusk]

And the freebie nitra from the mini mules

[jolly hazel]

did u pre pull eggs

[jade tusk]

Yep. Pre-pull before starting dotty

It's so much easier to deal 1 swarm than having a timed swarm show up just as you touch the egg after waking up dotty

[digital chasm]

or grab the eggs after the heartstone

[dusty meadow]

We just started doretta without a prepull or drill. It was ok.

[jade tusk]

In normal DRG missions I'll never pre-drill, but in EDDs. Better be safe than sorry and pre-drill into the first room.

[spring rapids]

What's the point of predrilling?
I did the EDD just fine without it

Is it just to clear the room ahead of time?

[jaunty thorn]

Yes

I don’t particularly like it

But it does keep fun stuff like suddenly driving over a tyrant weed

[dusty meadow]

Depends on the team and mutators, team of randoms with a lethal modifer (and perhaps a bulk seed), would make a safer run. I sometimes do it but not with a high experience group.

[jade tusk]

usually to scout out rooms or be safer in a run

[restive trout]

Like the EDD before the last one had two really crafty cave leeches right above the entrace when Dotti would break through the wall. If you go in blind they surely snatch you up.

Or a random Crassus Detonator was lurking in the next room. Look at that.

[jade tusk]

Or just a random bulk roaming around

[jaunty thorn]

I don’t know what game you play, but those sort of random things making things go pear shaped are why I play the game

[restive trout]

If I am on stage 3 of an EDD I like things NOT to go pear shaped.

[jaunty thorn]

Fair is fair

[marsh lake]

this is a bit off the beaten path, but me and my friend were playing drg together, and he kept shooting my steeve. orignally i thought he was just being a douche, but then he said he couldn't tell which one of the many bugs was the steeve because the steeve outline is blue and my friend is colorblind. is there some other, potentially more noticeable method of making sure steeve stands out from the crowd? one that is colorblind-friendly?

[jaunty thorn]

What platform be yee on? I would be surprised if there wasn’t a mod for this.

You could take armor break and make sure to break steeves right leg armor, use that as a sign.

[ruby aspen]

BRO. This had me kill a bunch of Steeves too. I had to start looking for the little fuzzy texture that I think glows red.

[marble veldt]

There is a mod to give Steeve better visibility

[woeful lark]

Two escort missions in EDD ? Ohno...

[marsh lake]

i certainly hope that the modding is simple; i don't think i would be comfortable with modding my game... and i can't speak for my friend either

[west merlin]

Yeah I'm colorblind and this works great for me.
Although I'm red/green colorblind but the better visibility is white particles

[maiden crystal]

we literally just did the dd with mods

it was super cool

3x creep spawn

[west merlin]

It's very easy now the only hard part is making a mod.io account

[maiden crystal]

its not

do it through the steam browser

[west merlin]

Then just click Download or whatever the button is on a Verified mod.

[maiden crystal]

and you can signin with steam

[west merlin]

Oh I forgot about that thanks

[maiden crystal]

no extra account required

[west merlin]

So even easier than I thought.
I've only used Verified mods so far but had no problems with them

[maiden crystal]

yeah, everything is verified we used

the full list we did was something like, increase max creeps, 3x spawn rate, 3x flashlight, removed mineral scatter, 40 nitra resupp, and live mission tracker

and they are all verified and made by the same author

then you can just press "n" choose your spawnrate, from 1x to 10x

[old widget]

Spawn rate/nitra mods were likely approved, not verified, which means they’re fine for progression but they disable achievements when used. FYI

[maiden crystal]

check the screenshot in the dd-speedrunning channel

ye, approved, not verified

only the live mission tracker is verified

only have 3 achievements yet to unlock anyway, so we just all play with hectic spawn rates now

[old widget]

We tried out the “all deep dives Haz 5” coupled with “Haz 5 becomes Haz 6” last week

[maiden crystal]

that sounds pretty cool

[old widget]

It was…a challenge. Haz 6 is really well thought out

[maiden crystal]

what happens on the last stage of the edd? it goes from 5.5 to 6?

[old widget]

First mod sets all deep dive stage difficulties to 5

For DD and EDD

[maiden crystal]

the most i've been able to do solo was a haz 4x4

[old widget]

Second mod sets all Haz 5 difficulties to 6

[maiden crystal]

took like an hour to do the omen, the crasus and the eggs (thanks bosco)

[old widget]

So it’s 6 / 6 / 6 for all stages of both DD/EDD

Our greybeard crew coasts through EDD but this gave us hell. It was a blast

[maiden crystal]

when we are in a group we can do the higher haz fairly easily

[old widget]

We actually failed and had fun failing

[maiden crystal]

ye, when you see the walls crawling

like a flowing sea of grunts

[old widget]

Anyway, probably veering into #modded-drg-chat territory here, but if you’re bored with EDD check it out

[maiden crystal]

what build do you do?

i will do

[old widget]

We have a crew of four that meets each week, I generally play driller but a couple of us are comfortable flipping to whatever

[maiden crystal]

sticky flames?

or facemelter?

[old widget]

I take cryo actually

[maiden crystal]

haha nice

[old widget]

Tuned cooler + heavy hitter on EPC

[maiden crystal]

ye, i also use tuned cooler, although I think with magnetic containment or something

[old widget]

Works better for support/team play at high levels

For me

[maiden crystal]

*on the secondary

ye, gunner has to cover everyone

all the time

[old widget]

Also gives me that nummy vampire proc

[maiden crystal]

you take vamp? huh

[old widget]

Vampire and cryo are like peanut butter and chocolate, ye

[maiden crystal]

i'm a thorns, dash, unstoppable iron will

[old widget]

But nice part about DRG, so many good combos

[maiden crystal]

on the gunner

fear + neuro

best build i've found so far

[old widget]

NTP on autocannon?

[maiden crystal]

so much crowd control

[old widget]

Yeah that’s my team build too for gunner

[jade tusk]

NTP auto is one of the Top 5? strongest DRG builds

[maiden crystal]

just fire a bit here a bit there, let the neuro soak in

[old widget]

I really think neuro needs a nerf but I’m happy to help my team exploit it while it lasts

[jade tusk]

And one of the most ammo efficient builds.

[maiden crystal]

dont say that!!!!

ssssh

its perfect

[jade tusk]

I do agree. It's very strong and I don't think trying to buff the other overclocks around it won't do much good either

[old widget]

GSG seems to assign a lot of negative weight to weapons that don’t kill things instantly

[maiden crystal]

ye, bc the bug can still kill you even if its ticking for damage

so you have to use it right

[old widget]

Cryo and neuro are very strong but the reality is that they don’t /kill/ fast by themselves

[maiden crystal]

i always take a bit of extra damage instead of the faster rate of fire and faster startup

[old widget]

I think they just need to dial back the slow effect for neuro to balance it a little. Don’t turn Haz 5 bugs into Haz 2 bugs

[maiden crystal]

man, they still bite like haz 5 though

[old widget]

But…probably veering into #drg-chat

[maiden crystal]

nah, this is hardcore edd stage 3 convo here xD

look, i think also, the neuro is only strong in the right hands with the right technique, i've seen plently newer players flop with it

[jade tusk]

Like many things. You need to practice with it. Not everyone is a expert with Fat boy the moment they get it

[maiden crystal]

ye, also agreed, although i think they did nerf the fat boi pretty hard, although it was getting out of hand in the pub matches

all the bloody team kills with it

[jolly hazel]

I mean maybe if they don't have fear

I think its pretty idiot proof

[maiden crystal]

ye, probably not using fear

anyway

cheers ous

[jolly hazel]

even if they are just spraying and not caring about ammo usage, the increased aoe still slaps bugs

[jade tusk]

Which you boost it even farther to 2.5? 2.6 with the AoE range mod

[maiden crystal]

ye, but without fear may aswell just take extra damage and/or aoe

[jolly hazel]

imo its number 1 or 2

crowd control+damage+ammo conservancy on a gun that does not scale with distance besides accuracy which is solved by increased splash

only competitors are tuned cooler driller and mag pellet alignment engie

[maiden crystal]

LOK1 executioner engi

😉

with blowthough

[jade tusk]

If I had to nerf NTP. I would either reduce the chance of Neuro from 50% to 33% or give it .5 total ammo modifier

[jolly hazel]

I tried exec and ecr

[maiden crystal]

so each to chuck dreads with it

[jolly hazel]

preferred ecr+electro mods due to application quickness

[maiden crystal]

*easy

[jolly hazel]

ya engie kinda shits on dreads now

with neuro lasso/exec and hyper prop

[maiden crystal]

hyper is sick for the straight dread missions, but i can't stand it on the edd

[jade tusk]

I just stick with the humble Mag pellet shotgun

[jolly hazel]

same

I only take hyper prop on proper missions

edd is too much variety

unless its 6 dreads in a row

[maiden crystal]

ye, its like having a dead secondary

[jade tusk]

I'll only take Hyper if there's a lot of dreads in the DD or EDD

[maiden crystal]

unless it was like a couple of weeks ago and there was dreads on pretty much every stage

^^this

[jolly hazel]

yeah or nerf direct dmg below carpet bomber levels so you cant dual purpose versus single targets

[maiden crystal]

cheers again

[ashen veldt]

Entering stage 3 solo rn, wish me luck

(EDD)

[jade tusk]

Good luck

Lots and lots of swarmers

[river pawn]

2 ESCORT MISSIONS

[jade tusk]

With a Egg hunt in between

[crimson tinsel]

I don’t mind egg hunts. Or swarm. Got my NTP to go triggerhappy with

[ashen veldt]

It was actually pretty easy!

Forgot to sc but 1:05:55 solo driller

Not exactly #deep-dive-speedrunning but i got it done

[ashen veldt]

Wait was there a nerf or something?

[old widget]

No balance or other changes recently, no

[ashen veldt]

Hm

How are they shit on dreads then

[river pawn]

that is exact opposite of what he said

[marble veldt]

Engi shits on Dread

[ashen veldt]

oh

I cannot read.

[marble veldt]

As in, he kills them easily

[ashen veldt]

I

[river pawn]

i havent tried neuro lasso on dreadnoughts

[ashen veldt]

..Yeah.

Lol sorry guys

[river pawn]

no worries mate

[jade tusk]

Mistakes are made. Have yourself some smart stout

[vernal willow]

super easy EDD ya?

we were swimming in nitra

[marble veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/894833434940309514/946527941020499998/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676

It was nice yeah

Looooaaads of stuff to kill

[jade tusk]

Pretty tame when compare to other EDDs

Stage 2 is probably the hardest stage just due to how it's set up. All the geysers sending up in the air and taking loads of chip fall damage and the area almost screams "Shellback play area"

This is a very green beard friendly EDD overall. Perfect for the first time EDD run

[grizzled linden]

Bread is a staple food prepared from a dough of flour (usually wheat) and water, usually by baking. Throughout recorded history and around the world, it has been an important part of many cultures' diet. It is one of the oldest human-made foods, having been of significance since the dawn of agriculture, and plays an essential role in both religious rituals and secular culture. -Wikipedia

[unique ruin]

The EDD seems.... Well... Hard

As soon as We make it to the hs its just mega swarm after mega swarm

[jade tusk]

If you go too slow. You'll be overwhelmed by the swarms or hit multiple trigger that causes full or mini swarms to occur

Probably what happen and this is a educated guess while I'm under the effects of smart stout. Is that you or a member of your team triggered a few mini swarms at once making it feel like a full swarm and the timer that ever ticks in the background that triggers the main swarm also trigger giving you a sort of mega swarm. In Egg hunt you may have trigger multiple eggs at once triggering the main swarm and mini swarms

[jolly hazel]

adding to that, going near a mini mule and popping 1 of the 4 legs from the ground will cause a mini swarm

I forgot if stationary drilldozer swarm and egg swarm stack

[true flame]

to my fellow dwarves who were on the edd last stage with me last night, i'm sorry to have had to end the game

i wish i didn't have to but house circumstances forced me to

we were so close, and i'm still filled with guilt about it

[steady umbra]

Life happens. Don't feel bad. I had to stop playing in the middle of a mission due to a work call. Do what you gotta do, DRG will be there when you're done.

[wraith shard]

You could have told them and dipped, just make sure that if u had iw to waste it, that way they would have had a shot at beating it w/o you

[jade tusk]

He was host...

Like Payday 2. If something happens to the host. The game ends right there

and unlike Payday 2. If the host quits the game. You at least keep some of the stuff you get out of it.

[jolly hazel]

tbh id be pissed

but as long as it was explained

I wouldnt be seething about it for a day like I usually do if I don't complete an edd

[jade tusk]

I'll be accepting if the host has to go as long as they drop a reason. I had really good runs ended prematurely because the host dropped the game without a reason

[jolly hazel]

I always host edd

if not just for helping my own aim

but for also not letting my game experience be determined by a random outside an individual members actions

[coarse lantern]

fyi for anyone attempting the edd, you get loads of those glowy plants this time around, and if you hit each bulb of the plant it becomes a near permanent light fixture for illuminating a large area

[soft token]

whats a good engineer setup for the EDD this week

[jolly hazel]

anything that deals with swarms

so no hyper prop and u are fine lol

1254 kills on edd

obscene amount of nitra

good EDD if its your first time doing it

no bullshit caves and really big open areas to fight

[soft token]

so which should i run for breach cutter then

the ammo overclock or spinning death

[tulip idol]

fat boy

and whatever kills the rest

[bold maple]

i think lok1 ECR and some good breach build works for pretty much anything

maybe return to sender or a clean overclock on bc

[tulip idol]

and how you're gonna use r2s in such a large tunnel? clean one tunnel's side at a time? roll control would do this better actually, but pgl reaches multiple tunnel's sides at the same time anyways and unlike bc - is able to clean bugs effectively on ceiling and walls before they get close

r2s is probably the last I would recommend on this edd

[timber rune]

#drg-chat message

can anyone explain what this means, the folks in the other channel are not helpful- this channel moves slower

[hardy nacelle]

what, the bit about the m1k being easy?

[quasi elm]

m1k refers to the m1000 classic weapon, a sniper for the scout. Is that what you mean?

[timber rune]

what does

thing 1
thing 2 mean

like how do i read that?

M1k
High skill

What does this mean ^^^^

[hardy nacelle]

it's a callback to 4chan greentexts

[timber rune]

what does it mean tho

[hardy nacelle]

you read it top to bottom, in this context it's in a mocking tone

[timber rune]

so he's saying M1k doesn't require high skill?

[hardy nacelle]

yes

[timber rune]

i see, ty

[hardy nacelle]

it's supposed to be pointing out flaws in a statement and poking fun at them

[timber rune]

mmmmm

i'm actually pretty proud of myself for not knowing that if it is from 4chan

[vernal willow]

You should be, honestly.

[soft token]

beat both deep dives in the same day

i’m too gamer

[harsh moat]

anyone looking to do a DD?

[steel ivy]

Doing my first EDD, Any tips?

[hardy nacelle]

don't die

[steel ivy]

ill try not to

assuming a random Crassus doesnt just come out of thin air in front of me

[hardy nacelle]

all bulks spawn "asleep" for five seconds before they start moving

if they're damaged, the timer is skipped

so if you see one spawn in front of you, try your hardest to instead run the other way

[steel ivy]

noted

[woeful patrol]

Try to play a class where you have a pretty good AOE because of the double Escort Mission

Like Engie Breach Cutter

Or Gunner Autocannon

[steel ivy]

Yeah i main engie so no problem

[woeful patrol]

Great choice ahah

[steel ivy]

yep

[tulip idol]

you can hear him from miles away

[olive whale]

Dumb question but is the weekly DD same for PC and PlayStation?

[fossil lagoon]

the EDD is so yikes, wtf

you'd think having 600 excess Nitra should be okay, but no... it had to be escort and swarmageddon

[steel ivy]

I LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY

[gleaming cave]

Anyone up at 3:30 AM for an Elite Deep Dive...?

[woeful patrol]

I don't know if they are exactly the same because of the differences in map generation but it's the same missions

[jade tusk]

They should be the same across the platforms

[jolly hazel]

carpet bomber gunner

[jade tusk]

Or NTP Gunner

Or really any Gunner that isn't Minigun gunner

Or Homebrew Hurricane gunner

[near rapids]

leadstorm leadstorm gunner is quite good for this edd

[jolly hazel]

how

[near rapids]

Don't have to move a lot on escort missions, has better swarm clear than homebrew and acts quite well as designated rock killer on the second phase of the hearthstone.

rocks are usually the hardest part of escort for my group.

[jolly hazel]

better swarm clear than homebrew is quite a low bar lol

do you know about the platform trick?

[near rapids]

yeah but we ran scout gunner driller.

[jolly hazel]

why

[near rapids]

cuz that's what we like playing

[jolly hazel]

hmm

all the power to you then, but with 3 player scaling, lead spray brrt should suffice for rocks

[hallow ice]

does extracting the egg and escorting the dozer spawn 2 swarms?

because hot damn did we get overrun pretty quickly

[jolly hazel]

yes they stack

also

[hallow ice]

jesus

we shouldve known better

[jolly hazel]

with it just being escort, I'd drop driller before I'd drop engie

[hallow ice]

the dozer just reached the ommoran when we got swamped by a mega swarm

sad

[near rapids]

brt to kill rocks is kinda awkward. it takes 3 (3) or 2 (6) bursts to kill a rock if running leadspray. Usually need somebody to drop a bullet on them to finish them off. At least leadstorm works better for me since driller and scout can focus on the swarm.

[jolly hazel]

iirc bug numbers get turned down during rocks so scout can help cuz it seems like u guys are coordinated

if it works 4 u then it works

I just like seeing a massive kill count from stealing drillers swarmer kills

[near rapids]

yeah, that's what we did at first, but using lead storm ended up being smoother for our team. Both work, but ig I just prefer the minigun. It's not so bad for normal swarms anyway. Stuff tends to pile up for blowthrough to do be decent, especially with sludge pump slows.

magic bullets is for stealing driller kills in my case.

[jolly hazel]

ya that's my lead storm build too lol

ac quicker to deal with crap coming down the walls on escort but you are right stuff piles up on the tunnels

its just whenever there's a TON of bugs my team can't deal with, I always wish I had carpet bomber lol

[near rapids]

def. fragmentation missiles or autocannon would've been better for pure aoe.

No carpet bomber over here lmao. Fragmentation missiles does the trick for me. It's super strong.

missing both it and ntp

[mystic ingot]

If scout has embedded detonators on nuk it’s pretty useful for rocks on escort, he can take care of them by himself putting 12-15 bullets per rock

If the team is built for aoe on their classes, the edd becomes more chill

[jolly hazel]

NTP is ez mode once u get it

frag missiles feels like discount ac

[near rapids]

bouncy bullets and embedded would've been ideal for scout on this edd I feel. But our scout would probably quit before parting from m1k and special powder

He's really attached to those.

[mystic ingot]

Damn lol

He should give it a try at least, the dps and ammo efficiency on drak with tef and embedded detonators on nuks outclasses flying around on an edd

[near rapids]

Especially escort lmao

He won't hear any of it. I love the drak. The weapon is just so good.

[jolly hazel]

special powder seems mediocre to me still despite utility

ya I love drak

u get so many bonuses just for it not being hitscan

[mystic ingot]

Yeah I agree

[ancient arrow]

Also it's just fun to shoot all your plasma

[jade tusk]

And commit lots of friendly fire accidents

[ancient arrow]

Yeah

I feel like the bouncy plasma should be base on the gun

It makes it more uniqur

And a good bit of fun

[jade tusk]

Bouncy plasma isn't my favorite OC just because it can be very prone to FF. I had games where a reckless scout chipped almost 50% of a teammates HP before the first real swarm spawned

[velvet salmon]

Whats you guy opinion of friendly, i meant even in high level play, cause i think there is too much AoE damage

[jade tusk]

Friendly is pretty good on Engie and Driller. It has uses cases on Gunner

[near rapids]

Its worth depends on the environment and loadouts a lot.

[jade tusk]

Scout is usually never in position where he can FF teammates outside of Bouncy drak

Worth noting Autocannon deals 0 Friendly fire damage on AoE damage

[near rapids]

For example it's kinda wasted on breach cutter lok-1 engi unless u like throwing plasma bursters on your team's face.

[velvet salmon]

I play sticky driller, tried friendly once and never go back

i usually go vampire, resuplier, friendly. Can do EDD normally

But my friend keep telling me friendly is a noob perk so idk

[jade tusk]

Driller loves Friendly since it makes his AoE from the Cryo and flamer be less dangerous to teammates

[near rapids]

If it works for you, it works for you. Not much else to say.

[jade tusk]

And makes combat C4 less of a threat in a panic situation

[near rapids]

C4 are highly likely to kill friends even with friendly on haz5 though. Unless red rock blaster or gunner armor resistance are involved.

[jade tusk]

A threat is still a threat. Just less of a threat. Though throwing C4 near your teammates isn't advise

[velvet salmon]

Ofc lol

[near rapids]

ig the way to evaluate it is whether u think you save your team more health by picking friendly over something like sweet tooth or elemental insulation, since you don't really have a lot other perk choices.

[old widget]

The AoE from autocannon does 0 FF, but the direct damage component does do FF now (hitting a teammate directly with the AC bullet)

(This was a recent change, in Season 1 IIRC)

…but it still ain’t much

[jade tusk]

Thanks for the correction

[near rapids]

it's still really hard to deal ff with autocannon. that thing seldom hits what you want it to hit lmao

and most variants don't deal a lot of direct damage unless you're running bertha

[jade tusk]

Couple hurricane rockets will hurt.

And I may have downed a few teammates if I use my Homebrew Dread destroyer build...

[near rapids]

homebrew friendly fire is no joke

That shit probably takes a third of your health per rocket

[jade tusk]

It is not a joke.

But that's what you get for jumping front of the gunner sightline!

[jolly hazel]

or being a driller

[jade tusk]

Drillers always look for an excuse to friendly fire

[zinc coral]

For sticky specifically, you really dont need friendly at all. Sure sometimes you’ll tag your team here and there while laying down sticky, but the FF is so negligible it doesnt matter at all

[hardy nacelle]

tell me your dread killer

I wanna use homebrew

[jade tusk]

I generally follow 2-2-2-2-2 with Homebrew to max out the damage per hit and have decent DPS. You swap T1 for extra ammo cap to give you more room for errors or T3 for extra ammo in the clip for a similar reason

[hardy nacelle]

doesn't AT missiles for hurricane just not work atm

[jade tusk]

Oh it does not work. I never knew. I always run it since armor break is always nice

[velvet salmon]

so for sticky, what your choices for passive perks then ?

[jade tusk]

Resuppiler, thorns, Vampire, Strong arm, 2nd wind.

[jolly hazel]

resupplier born ready thorns

[hardy nacelle]

I mean bigger jet engine basically means I have no control over the rockets past preaiming

because they move faster than the control "unlocks"

[jade tusk]

And they already fire at their max speed

[velvet salmon]

Oh thorns is moree popular than i thought lol

[jolly hazel]

fuck one swarmer

fuck one jelly

[jade tusk]

Thorns is just good because it's nice to not turn away every .2 seconds because a lone swarmer to 2 starts nipping at your ankle

[jolly hazel]

not dealing with that shit

[jade tusk]

Or focus on more pressing matters like a horde of bugs while you have this weaken to all hell grunt slashing at your ankle

[velvet salmon]

I usually just jump and aim down

[jolly hazel]

^

[velvet salmon]

Cause you still take damage anyway

[jade tusk]

But the amount of time you did. THe swarm gotten a hell of a lot closer to you

[velvet salmon]

A good point

[jolly hazel]

thats fair too but I'm normally jumping in a kiting direction, usually into whatever is biting my butt

if u just do a quick circle with sticky flames it should kill anything small on you

[jade tusk]

Fuck jellies in particular.

[jolly hazel]

crspr is annoying to deal with jellies though

imo

waste a lot of ammo for a 10 hp target

[jade tusk]

Often times. I just let the perk deal with them unless I need to GTFO

[jolly hazel]

I just run towards engie sentry lol

microwave gun seems like it will deal with them well

[jade tusk]

If only engies keep the sentry guns loaded instead of leaving them all flaccid because they wasted all their ammo on 3 grunts

[hallow ice]

man.. i just got a "lost connection" on my 2nd EDD attempt in the final stage fml

you can rejoin can you?

[jolly hazel]

nope

[hallow ice]

PAIN

[jade tusk]

Management doesn't approve of it.

[velvet salmon]

I think this week DDs is easier compared to last week

[hallow ice]

it is

[velvet salmon]

i love the low gravity one

[hallow ice]

EDD is nitra galore

[jade tusk]

EDD has a shit ton of Nitra

[hallow ice]

tbh i expected to be ammo starved

[jade tusk]

At one point of stage 3 had a little over 700 Nitra in reserve

[hallow ice]

yeah dude

[digital chasm]

thats 8 resupplies

[hallow ice]

at this point just call resupply to kill praetorians lmao

[digital chasm]

nah, save them for oppressors

[jade tusk]

And my team is thankfully not trained by storm troopers or super glued the trigger so they're not wasting 700 NItra worth of ammo

[hallow ice]

true

[jade tusk]

Save them for surprise Dreadnaughts

[jolly hazel]

I just saved for last hearthstone and used resupplies to reload lol

[jade tusk]

Or embrace the inner driller and use the resupply pods to team kill!

[velvet salmon]

Hey we dont do that

[hallow ice]

nice

[velvet salmon]

We use the resuply as the bait

Not the hook

[jade tusk]

Why not just freeze the teammate and save the effort

And watch as they try to break out as the resupply pod comes closer and closer to its destiny

[thorn moss]

does the EDD have enough poison plants to warrant a need for Driller Axes?

[jolly hazel]

surprisingly no

[thorn moss]

good to know

[sinful oyster]

Plasma missile time I see

[bold maple]

The amount of bugs was nutty on stage 3 of EDD

I did it first try in a pub lobby but my gunner AC build got over 1100 elims in a 4 man lobby lol

[jolly hazel]

thankfully the cave is good

yep funny splash annihilated swarmers

[bold maple]

if you go in blind prepared for dreadnoughts with gunner you'll be hurting bad

definitely dont recommend a standard minigun build at all

burning hell maybe.....

[jade tusk]

I ended my run with over 1,400 kills

1421 kills according to the screenshot I made when the EDD was completed

[stuck tapir]

What kind of gunner build do you guys suggest for the EDD

Haven't had much success in a group with EDDs yet

Was thinking of trying it solo with Bosco

[jolly hazel]

22123 carpet bomber

[digital shuttle]

Easiest edd since launch

[jade tusk]

Or a 3-X-X-2-2 Neurotoxin payload. X being your preference

3-2-X-2-2 Frag missiles on the Hurricane

[tribal tendon]

Is it a common bug to not get a matrix from completing all 3 stages, regular?

[jade tusk]

Did you beat the DD before?

[tribal tendon]

I just did the weekly with my friends, all 3 in one go, got the achievement for under 45min, and all the xp, but didn't get a core at the end of stage 3, not left behind or anything.

I also restarted the game, didn't see any changes.

[jolly hazel]

any chance you have all the cosmetic ocs?

[tribal tendon]

doubt it, this is my second dd done, fairly new to the game, 1char promotion, unless the game gave me the same one which i already owned, i don't think that's possible

[jolly hazel]

then thats a no

and nah u can't get duplicates

sounds like a bug

[jolly hazel]

first week I'm not gonna do dd

already have all the weapon oc and it just seems boring now, 1 hour for 1 cosmetic oc I cant choose

[stuck tapir]

Deplete that pool!

Thx for the suggestions guys

[glossy walrus]

depending on how your blank stockpile is looking, it might still be worthwhile doing at least the first two levels to get more for when the new secondaries drop

but if you have enough already, then all good

[vernal willow]

How many blank cores you sitting on? If not many, stock up for new weapon OC's.

[orchid jasper]

this EDD was pretty easy overall. Me (Engi) and and experienced Driller took two green-beards and we made it despite people pulling eggs without ready checking and restarting the dozer so forth. Good one for new players.

[jade tusk]

This is a pretty tame EDD and perfect for your first dip into it

[grim pagoda]

Who doesn’t pull all the eggs the instant you see them, it makes the mission more fun

[jade tusk]

All fun and games until you deal with a triple swarm (8 egg) with no nitra in the bank because someone wanted to turbo the eggs out

[soft token]

based goo bomber moments

[trim shell]

anyone wanna elite deep dive with me

[velvet salmon]

Most ppl in here probaly finished it the moment it went live lol

[somber breach]

why edd engineers have no brain this week

600lvl guys acting like its their first time

[tawny badger]

just did my first ever solo elite dive. almost finished the third mission but a glyphid menace shredded doretta last second

[tulip idol]

because they're not 1000

[pseudo holly]

I just got 1200 kills with a group in the EDD

[unkempt saffron]

Dang the jellies on DD are super annoying, welp good thing it was a DD

[shut oracle]

u can just drill in the direction and they all die without touching u

thorns perk helps too

drills are pretty effective anti swarm weapon imo

[jade tusk]

Anti swarm, Anti teammates, Anti dirt. Really. Anti-everything if you get in drilling range

[jolly hazel]

they do tickle praetorians in my experience

gotta freeze them first

[green crown]

wuts the current deep dive. im about to do my first and want to be prepared.

[hardy nacelle]

pins

[green crown]

thanks

[full geyser]

Easyish one

[unkempt saffron]

Eh they werent too much of a major issue, and i was playing as an engi, so sentries are my best bet

[hard stratus]

Me and a bunch of friends we tried this DD this week and it's just not good

Lack of Nitra is just insane

[full geyser]

I heard its really good

Or was that just the EDD?

[hot cargo]

How easy is this weeks EDD to solo?

Or how difficult is it? I solo'd last weeks pretty easily.

[full geyser]

I heard at least one of the dives is really nice

[severe moth]

Oh boy so happy. Got cryomines from first DD after 4 months break

[jade tusk]

Lot of the Nitra is high up and out of view. Dense Biozone is a pretty awful Biome

[glossy walrus]

yeah was kinda rough getting nitra, thankfully it's just DD

would much rather have DD be nitra starved than EDD

[jade tusk]

And this week EDD you're swimming in Nitra. So much Nitra that even a dwarf trained by the best of the best stormtroopers can finish it with a few Resupply in reserve

But still recommend going in every DD and EDD with more ammo efficiency so you don't burn through lots of Resupply drops

[hard stratus]

Alright. We'ved tried 2 times and didn't succeed in passing the dreadnaugh

[bold maple]

As long as you're on a good CC build this weeks edd isn't bad

[unkempt saffron]

Yeah edd has tons of nitra, especially in stage 3, though having 2 escorts and a swarmy on stage 3 can be quite the hassle

[jade tusk]

Good AoE setups like most hurricanes builds, Carpet bomber AC, and NTP AC are good set ups

[unkempt saffron]

Yeah kinda ironic i didnt run my edd with a gunner, though a gunner would probably be the most useful for this edd imo

And the need for predrilling is somewhat reduced, for stage 3 at least, since the eggs arent in dottys way and swarmy will most likely keep you occupied most of the time

Also, plenty of space to fight at the midsection for stage 3

[hot cargo]

I soloed last weeks EDD running neurotoxin and lead spray. Once I camped out at the black box and let bosco do all the grabbing of eggs, it was pretty easy.

I don't know how I'll fare having to babysit doretta for two stages though.

[unkempt saffron]

Shouldnt be impossible, just that you need to do it twice, which is far beyond my recommended escort mission intake per hour

[scenic finch]

Tonnes of nitra

[severe moth]

I ran Carpet bombing gunner this try. Second escort drained all ammo and engie downed scout with c4 5 times

At least it's only cosmetics we didn't get

[unkempt saffron]

Not sure how an engi has a c4, but that sounds like something my engi could use too

[severe moth]

oooof

with gl